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Addison Lee is Britain's biggest minicab firm.

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A £200 million company, which books 25,000 journeys a day.

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Can I take the job number for the booking, please?

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Call us five minutes before the booked time.

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And where were you going, please?

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The world of taxis used to be a bloke's business.

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Traditionally, the minicab driver comes off the road,

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works in the office, they sit smoking fags and talking about football.

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But the arrival of women has created a problem.

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BABY SCREAMS

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Babies.

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Oh, darling.

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These bundles of joy can halt careers in their tracks.

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Childcare now is exorbitantly expensive.

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It's £943 a month.

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So, the company are about to trial a radical American scheme

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that allows babies in the office.

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It would make me feel happier if I could see her more often.

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I'll feel more involved in her life.

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I feel like I'm a part-time mum now.

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It does make me feel a bit sad at times.

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To succeed, eight parents must combine their day job...

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BABY YELPS

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..with being mummy and daddy...

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After all that, you don't want the bottle?

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Nyla, Mummy's going to work now, OK?

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No!

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OK, that's fine.

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That's all done for you. Is there anything else?

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Yes, that's a baby in the background.

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November 97, 97. November 97...

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This isn't going to work, is it?

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..and prove the doubters wrong.

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Children in the workplace. What's there to discuss?

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There's nothing to discuss. They shouldn't be there, should they?

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But can the taxi business and babies start a workplace revolution...

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Yeah!

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It's nice, yeah, it is kind of a hard-sell environment.

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Obviously, I don't want it too airy fairy here.

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..or will this be one journey that all ends in tears?

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BABY CRIES

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Worst-case scenario is it is a complete disaster

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and the babies scream the whole time

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and the business comes to a standstill.

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BABY CRIES

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Ssh!

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Can I have my agenda back, please?

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With 3,500 cars and 5,000 employees,

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Addison Lee is Britain's largest minicab firm.

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No-one likes a cab to be late.

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So in this business, every second counts.

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Time is money.

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Good afternoon. Can I take your number?

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The price will be £11.

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When would you like the car for?

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Historically, it's been a male industry.

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I got this car washed yesterday!

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But for managing director Liam Griffin, times are changing.

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Nearly a third of his office staff are women.

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And they're having families of their own.

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It takes time to replace them,

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it takes time to train up their replacements.

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And ideally, we'll have kept them.

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It's not just the business that suffers.

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Across Britain, parents struggle with the cost of childcare,

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and working mums spend an average of just an hour and 20 minutes a day

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caring for their kids.

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I don't want to work too much

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so that I never get time to spend with the kids.

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'I can be working while they're with me,

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'and I can also be bonding with them at the same time.'

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Mum!

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To solve these problems, Liam's going to do something radical.

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In America, over 170 companies run babies-at-work schemes,

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allowing parents to bring their babies into the office.

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Not in a creche or a nursery, but right next to them at their desks.

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If someone brought this up and mentioned it to you in a pub,

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you'd just go, "What a stupid idea." It's... It is.

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When you initially hear it, you think, "That'll ever work."

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Addison Lee will be the first British company

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to try out this scheme.

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As supportive as I am of this concept,

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if it's not working, we can't carry on.

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We can't be persevere just for the sake of it.

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There's a big risk here, and if it doesn't work in this one day,

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then we will have to, you know, call it a day at that point.

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For Liam, parenting and work is something that's close to his heart.

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My wife has been through a similar scenario.

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She's a teacher, had the children, wanted to come back to work,

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and there's a tear, there's a draw.

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Yes, "I want to go back to work but I don't want to leave my kid?."

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So I've been there. I've seen it first-hand,

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so I can relate to it a lot more now that I've been there.

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So when you put all those in the pot, I think, you know,

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let's give it a go, let's see what we can do for these mothers.

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Liam's head of Human Resources, Claire,

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has been with the company for over five years.

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It will be her job to manage the trial,

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and she's curious about it for her own reasons.

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On a personal level, this experiment is very relevant.

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You know, I'm mid-30s, early 30s, mid-30s...

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Of course, children have crossed my mind. Of course, it is on my radar.

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I definitely want to be a mum, I definitely want children,

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all of those things.

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But have I held back a certain... because of my career?

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Yes. I definitely have.

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I don't feel upset about that. That's the choice I've made.

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But I definitely think that...

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I know if I had a baby, I'd want to come back to work quite soon.

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I'd want to come back after three or four months.

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But not everyone in the office shares the enthusiasm.

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A full-time job at Addison Lee is a full-time job, believe me.

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It's a busy, busy company, and we need to be on the ball all the time,

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otherwise things could go horribly wrong very quickly.

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They'll be at six months coming in,

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screaming on the phone to a client,

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"Yes, sir, we're going to be ten minutes for your parcel,"

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a baby screaming in the background.

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It's a full-time job. Being a mum or a parent is a full-time job.

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End of. It can't work, it just can't work.

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No British company has ever done this before.

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For Liam, this is one of the biggest gambles of his career.

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There's going to be cost implications against this.

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There's going to be, potentially, loss of earnings from this.

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And you worry about the brand.

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We spent a long time building this brand.

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We don't want to damage it just by trying to do something a bit clever.

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Safety is a top priority, so the office is baby-proofed

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from top to bottom

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under the guidance of health-and-safety officers.

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Any of the socket faces that are missing,

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we should have the safety connectors

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and get as much of this clipped back as possible.

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Could we all make a bit of a team effort, just from

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a health-and-safety point of view?

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If there's any bits and pieces that can be grabbed or pulled

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or that babies may be able to pick up,

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if you can get them into your drawers, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

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Spare office space is transformed into a playroom.

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Amongst the staff, 78 have children under two,

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and ten are currently on maternity leave.

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In total, eight mums and dads have agreed to take part in the trial.

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Look, Tyler.

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'It's just me. Me and Tyler.'

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First-time mum 23-year-old Thelma

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has been with the company for four years.

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She's currently on maternity leave with her nine-week-old son, Tyler.

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Thelma's on her own, and receives £128 a week in maternity pay.

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This scheme could provide her with a financial lifeline.

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My parents, they work full-time, so they don't have the time

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whatsoever to, erm, look after Tyler.

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I could leave him with a childminder, but I can't afford it.

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Since I heard about the project, to be honest, I was just really excited,

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because I knew I wanted to go back to work earlier,

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so I said to myself, "Wow, I can't believe it's actually come about."

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Financially, that will make a big difference to us,

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because I don't want to be on benefits,

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and yeah, I'll be able to pay my rent and just be able to go on holiday

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and do normal things.

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But Thelma's call-centre job is hard enough already,

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let alone with a baby.

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They've got a lot of targets that they need to meet,

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and they're about customers, customers, customers,

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so I can't imagine them willing to risk losing their customers.

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Aida is mum to Amira, and has another child on the way.

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She'd love the scheme to work,

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but is worried about how disruptive babies in the office will be.

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Some of my colleagues do not like kids,

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so it will be a bit hard, and I'm very over-protective of Amira.

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I don't want her to be rejected.

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Because it's not everybody's cup of tea to have children in the office.

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Eight volunteers with their nine babies

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want to prove to Liam this scheme can work.

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At first, the trial will run for just one day.

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If it works, it will be extended for a whole month,

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giving Liam plenty of time to assess

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whether babies can be good for business.

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Hello, Amira!

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Say hello, bubba!

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Good afternoon, Addison Lee. How can I help?

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It's 8am, and the start of the morning shift in the call centre.

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This team handles 25,000 calls a day,

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with call durations strictly monitored.

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Wasted time means wasted money.

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The call centre is where it all happens.

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It's the coalface.

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This has to be a ruthless machine in terms of running it,

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because we get it right so often,

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if we get it wrong once, then our customers don't forgive us.

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Yes, we thought this area, there's a bit more space.

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23-year-old Zara is bringing in her two daughters,

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baby Alina and toddler Nyla.

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You want to come to me?

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Hello, aw. Hello!

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Not bothered, are you?

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They're very chilled.

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They weren't like that in the car.

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We'll put all the mothers in this area. We'll have three mothers here.

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We'll get rid of some of the seats so there's space to play,

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so they're not just sat at a table, really.

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This is quite easy!

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For the last two years,

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single mum Zara has been getting up before 4am

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so she can do the 6am shift and be home to see her daughters

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in the afternoon.

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It's exhausting, and she still feels she doesn't see them enough.

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Every morning, when I leave at 5:20 in the morning, I hate it.

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I just think, "I should be in bed with the kids."

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'When I walk out the door, I just think, "Oh".

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'I just want to rush back home and I just want to hurry up and finish.'

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How cute!

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At two and a half, Nyla is the oldest child

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taking part in the experiment.

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Mum!

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Nyla, Mummy's going to go... Mummy's going to work now, OK?

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Look!

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Yes, you colour and eat your fruits, OK? Good girl.

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Good morning, you're through to Zara. Can I take your phone number, please?

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And going to...?

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Thank you for calling, bye.

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Hey, what's wrong?

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The caller didn't say anything. He heard Alina.

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He just laughed!

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This trial day isn't just for mums.

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Next to arrive is car control manager Paul,

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with his 11-month-old daughter Lyla.

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LYLA CRIES

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Have you got the piggies? Let's get piggies!

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SHE CRIES

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Look at the piggies.

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SHE SCREAMS

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Arms up.

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He's been given step-by-step instructions from Mum

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to keep her baby happy.

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This is Mummy's list of what Daddy should be doing.

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8:30, breakfast. Toast and Weetabix. So she can have cow's milk,

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but no sugar.

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12:30, lunch. Various bits and pieces,

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and she can have water any time, always boiled.

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This has to be kept, stapled and all the rest.

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42-year-old Paul has worked at the company for 15 years.

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Baby Lyla was a surprise addition to his family.

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Now, he's keen to bring her to work,

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because he doesn't want to miss out on seeing her grow up.

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Come on, then! Yes!

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Rather than, you know, the nursery care teacher seeing it,

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or Mum seeing it, it will be nice to say,

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"I was there the first time you fell over,

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"you took your first steps," and that kind of situation,

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'so it would be great for me.

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'It would help Mum. I think it would make me very happy.'

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Are you ready for a knife and fork, do you think?

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-Let's get that door for you.

-Thank you very much.

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Pleasure.

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One floor up is the finance department.

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On a normal day, it's as quiet as a library.

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And, apart from pricing assistant Monica, staffed entirely by men.

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So who's that? Who's that? Say hello.

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What's that? Look at that.

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Our job is basically attention to detail.

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If we don't get it right, then we'll have a lot of drivers

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contact us the following week, a lot of queries on our side.

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Phones have been off the hook recently,

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so we need to be accurate, and we need to be sure

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that we're paying the drivers correctly

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every week on every single job.

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So, how will 22-month-old Natasia

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affect the office on such an important day?

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You all right, bubs? You're just taking the butter off it?

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-You're supposed to eat all of it, Googla.

-Can I have some?

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No, say, "It's mine."

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Monica is eager to expand her family,

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but unless this trial succeeds, she can't afford to.

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'I'd love to have another child,

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'but at the moment, financially, I can't see it working out.'

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Currently, we're spending £4,500 a year on just one child,

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two days a week at nursery.

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'There'd be no way I could find another £4,000, £5,000 a year.'

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I know there's a couple of parents

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that have taken part in the experiment,

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and a couple of parents throughout the business

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that have maybe had one child and are actually holding back

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on having their second till the first one's in school

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because of the costs, and I just think that's a bad state of affairs,

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where you are deciding when you are going to have your family

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not based on when you want your children,

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but when you can afford to have them, and I just think that's a real shame.

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I need someone to do me a favour.

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Googla, be careful, bubs. Erm, who's not doing anything?

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What do you need, Monica?

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Erm, someone put the diaries in for me?

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-Diaries in?

-Yeah.

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Right, so they go... And previous week, that's a charge...

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CHILD CRIES

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Do you want a pen? Here.

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-Mine.

-There you go.

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Uh, what she writing on? That's fine.

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Just delegated a few things out, it's all right.

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I've put it all together,

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just got to get a couple of emails back

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and I should be ready to go with the vans,

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so...hoping she'll stay like this!

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BABY CRIES

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She's a bit grumpy today, to be honest, she's teething very badly.

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So I hope she will be OK today.

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In customer services,

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Aida arrives with her 22-month-old daughter Amira,

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who's used to a nursery and a set routine.

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'I know it's working in America,'

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and I hope it will be working in here,

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so it can help other mothers to go back to work

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and look after their child at the same time, without high expenses.

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Say hello, baba, say hello...

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-How are we?

-Oh, it's been a rush this morning, oh, nightmare.

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So I'm just feeding her because she's hungry now,

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and then hopefully, she'll be in a better mood.

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Oh, dear! You don't want any more?

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'I don't want Amira to see me just as a mother looking after her.'

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I want her to show, you know,

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that you have to work hard to get to where you are.

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So yeah, that would be a good example for Amira as well.

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Blow your nose. Aah.

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THEY LAUGH

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You like to blow kisses?

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THEY LAUGHS

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Bravo! She's so funny!

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We have such a good time at home, I tell you!

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Just processing your account for you.

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Another-high pressure department taking on a new recruit is

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the sales team.

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All of our accounts work on a monthly credit facility,

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so otherwise it's going to be like

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a pay-as-you-go cash or credit card service.

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-Stop bitchin' and get pitchin'.

-Stop bitchin' and get pitchin'.

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I don't want to pitch in case the baby starts crying.

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You've all got 25 minutes to get that that to green, yeah?

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The trial has barely begun,

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and the boss of the department already has his doubts.

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The guys are commission-based. They do get a basic as well,

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but, you know, bulk of their wage is commission.

0:19:350:19:38

They'll say,

0:19:380:19:39

"Oh, Tyrone's this and that, he doesn't want the babies here" -

0:19:390:19:41

we don't mind it, but you see their commission figures

0:19:410:19:44

ain't where they should be, you'll see a different side to them,

0:19:440:19:47

I can promise you.

0:19:470:19:48

It's 10am. By now, car control manager Paul is usually

0:19:500:19:54

well into his workload.

0:19:540:19:56

See, she's showing management... you know...

0:19:560:19:58

-Potential.

-Absolutely.

0:19:580:20:00

What your dad does in here is pretty much nothing -

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he's got all these other people doing all the work for him,

0:20:020:20:05

and that's why he's called a manager.

0:20:050:20:07

Say we don't want to do no work, do we?

0:20:070:20:09

We want to skive all day. Play with babies.

0:20:090:20:11

Ah, she's drawing on the mouth, excellent, that's what I normally

0:20:110:20:14

-go home with, bit of pen on me.

-There we go.

0:20:140:20:17

I wish I'd brought my kid up, I tell ya.

0:20:170:20:19

We've been in 55 minutes,

0:20:190:20:22

and we're now just about to log in.

0:20:220:20:27

I'd like to say I'm about an hour behind now.

0:20:270:20:29

All right, we'll get you in your car.

0:20:290:20:32

There.

0:20:320:20:33

Have you written an e-mail yet?

0:20:350:20:37

-I'll catch up.

-Just write one e-mail, just to see,

0:20:370:20:40

because that means you've actually worked with the baby in the office.

0:20:400:20:44

See, I'm logged in. Eventually!

0:20:440:20:47

-See, you've e-mailed the MD, saying, "I've logged in."

-Exactly!

0:20:470:20:50

She clocked in herself at half seven,

0:20:500:20:51

so she's looking for a day's pay!

0:20:510:20:53

With your finger, you clocked in with your finger!

0:20:530:20:56

Slow down, slow down, slow down!

0:20:560:20:58

Booked to work a late-morning shift, mum of six Shellon is coming back

0:21:000:21:04

from maternity leave specially to give the trial a go.

0:21:040:21:07

'I've got five boys.

0:21:070:21:10

'Madika is my only girl, so I've got six kids.'

0:21:100:21:13

The older ones, they're in uni and not living at home,

0:21:130:21:16

and I've got a little one, Elijah - he's in full-time school.

0:21:160:21:20

Don't go in class without me.

0:21:200:21:21

She's alarmed by the cost of childcare

0:21:210:21:23

and doesn't want her new baby to keep her off the career ladder.

0:21:230:21:28

'I don't want to be stuck in my house all day, every day.'

0:21:280:21:32

I like that buzz of getting up and going out there

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and, you know, earning my living,

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and I don't think just because I have a baby

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I should be shoved into a corner or locked out of sight.

0:21:420:21:46

Why can't I still mingle and do all the things

0:21:460:21:50

'that I would normally do?'

0:21:500:21:52

You have a good day, you understand? All right, go in.

0:21:520:21:56

OK, thank you. All right.

0:21:560:21:59

Her hopes are high, but after five months off,

0:22:030:22:06

she'll have to hit the ground running.

0:22:060:22:09

This one on the end? Ah, no, give me the end,

0:22:090:22:12

because then I can put the chair here.

0:22:120:22:14

So, that works out perfectly.

0:22:140:22:17

Five minutes, all organised, and she's ready to go.

0:22:170:22:20

So, you can spot the mum with six children!

0:22:200:22:23

Thank you!

0:22:230:22:25

I think I really, actually, could do this.

0:22:250:22:27

No sooner has she arrived than she's in the hot seat.

0:22:320:22:35

Good morning, Addison Lee, Shellon speaking,

0:22:350:22:38

can I take passenger's contact number, please?

0:22:380:22:41

Are you going to be the passenger?

0:22:410:22:44

All right.

0:22:440:22:45

OK, so there's two of you, that's fine.

0:22:460:22:49

And you want to go to the Gatwick Express?

0:22:490:22:51

OK, hold on.

0:22:510:22:54

And that's all booked for 12:45 this afternoon.

0:22:550:22:58

Thanks. Bye-bye.

0:22:580:22:59

OK! Phew, that was nerve-wracking,

0:22:590:23:02

I haven't taken a call in months, but I did it.

0:23:020:23:05

A quote, a price...

0:23:070:23:09

By 10.30am, all parents and babies are at their desks.

0:23:090:23:14

And for the moment at least, all is peaceful.

0:23:140:23:18

-I can't hear no children.

-Exactly.

0:23:200:23:23

Marvellous, ain't it?

0:23:230:23:24

-There's loads of them in here.

-Later, come see me later.

0:23:240:23:28

It's not right, is it? Look at her, poor little love,

0:23:300:23:33

she needs attention.

0:23:330:23:34

Is that yours? Both of them?

0:23:340:23:37

She's allowed to bring two in?

0:23:370:23:39

That's not allowed, is it? There you are, look!

0:23:390:23:43

I'm going, no, I'm going! See you later.

0:23:430:23:46

We'll go for plan B, which is bottle time.

0:23:490:23:53

Let's go to our bottle.

0:23:530:23:55

It's feeding time for Lila,

0:23:550:23:56

and Paul's management skills are being given a thorough test.

0:23:560:24:01

There we go.

0:24:070:24:09

Oh, after all that, you don't want a bottle?

0:24:090:24:12

Ah, no, we'll go for plan C.

0:24:160:24:17

Could eventually get up to D and E.

0:24:170:24:20

There.

0:24:200:24:21

Do you think you're going to sleep?

0:24:210:24:24

You're not eating bobo?

0:24:240:24:26

Right, well, I'm going to go like this, then, strap you in,

0:24:260:24:29

but we're not going in the car.

0:24:290:24:31

Keep you there, and you'll hide.

0:24:340:24:37

There!

0:24:390:24:40

You can have a nice sleep in there, and hide!

0:24:430:24:46

Have your botbot in peace.

0:24:460:24:49

If I leave her alone for a few minutes,

0:24:490:24:51

she just goes into her own thing and goes to sleep.

0:24:510:24:54

Can I put you back in?

0:25:070:25:09

No, OK. You going to sit on my lap?

0:25:090:25:11

Going to sit on my lap?

0:25:110:25:13

Multi-tasking, you know!

0:25:150:25:16

-But you normally type with one hand anyway.

-Yeah!

0:25:160:25:21

For Zara, the early signs are promising.

0:25:210:25:24

What's wrong? Huh?

0:25:250:25:28

OK, baby, you sit on Mummy's lap, OK?

0:25:280:25:32

Good morning, you're through to Zara. Can I take the account number, please?

0:25:320:25:36

OK, is this cash or account?

0:25:410:25:43

OK, can I start by taking your phone number, please?

0:25:430:25:46

OK, so that's a total price of £22.30,

0:25:460:25:50

car's booked for 10am this morning.

0:25:500:25:53

Thank you for calling. Take care, bye.

0:25:530:25:56

She's staying on top of her work,

0:25:560:25:58

and has discovered another benefit of the trial.

0:25:580:26:03

No?

0:26:030:26:04

OK, OK.

0:26:060:26:08

Nyla, are you going come with Mummy?

0:26:120:26:14

Do you want to use my office for breastfeeding?

0:26:140:26:17

I've just put the blinds down, look.

0:26:170:26:19

-Let's go around to the left here.

-Oh, right, OK.

0:26:190:26:24

This is a really good thing, I get to breastfeed her during the day,

0:26:290:26:32

instead of her just staying without it.

0:26:320:26:35

So what I'm going to do,

0:26:350:26:36

just breastfeed her and go back on the phones.

0:26:360:26:39

Each of the parents has nominated a buddy to help out in emergencies.

0:26:420:26:46

Paul's job involves external meetings, so it's not long

0:26:460:26:50

before his buddy - head of HR, Claire - is asked to step in.

0:26:500:26:54

When she wakes up, or if she wakes up in the next 20 minutes or so,

0:26:540:26:58

-just take her out.

-I'll just get her out of that?

0:26:580:27:00

Yeah, just comfort her for a minute for two.

0:27:000:27:02

I'm hoping that she doesn't maybe need the toilet till you come back.

0:27:020:27:06

Maybe, hoping...

0:27:060:27:08

-Fingers crossed.

-How've you got on today, so far, this morning?

0:27:080:27:11

In a way, it's actually pushing you,

0:27:110:27:14

so rather than dilly-dallying with one of the other departments,

0:27:140:27:16

it's, "OK, I need this, can we do this?

0:27:160:27:18

-"How long will this take?" So actually...

-Less small talk?

0:27:180:27:21

-Absolutely. Yeah. She's great at the moment.

-Off you go, then.

0:27:210:27:24

-I'll be back as quick as I can. Call me if there's any problems.

-OK.

0:27:260:27:29

-Thank you.

-Right.

0:27:290:27:31

The kids all seem quite chilled,

0:27:370:27:38

don't seem to be suffering from the fact they're here.

0:27:380:27:40

That was my main worry, are we not giving them the right development,

0:27:400:27:45

or, you know, are we being cruel to children by bringing them in?

0:27:450:27:48

But actually, I think they're really excited

0:27:480:27:50

and looking at all the new people and everything that's going on,

0:27:500:27:53

and to be honest, I don't think it's the kids that are bothered -

0:27:530:27:56

it's the adults. As you can see!

0:27:560:27:59

She's going for the vintage. OK. There we are.

0:28:040:28:08

-There we are.

-Wow. Look.

0:28:080:28:11

According to experts, babies-at-work schemes can benefit

0:28:120:28:16

both parents and children.

0:28:160:28:19

Certainly, a small amount of time in the work environment for the child

0:28:190:28:25

could well be beneficial in terms of expanding the child's experience.

0:28:250:28:30

Small periods, like a day a week or two or three half days a week,

0:28:300:28:34

would almost certainly not be detrimental to the child.

0:28:340:28:38

She's been all right, hasn't she?

0:28:380:28:40

Quite placid, this one. We don't mind babies if they behave like this!

0:28:400:28:43

That's what our drivers do, drive into lots of things!

0:28:460:28:50

It's late morning, and the staff are not only getting used to

0:28:540:28:57

having the new recruits around some are positively enjoying them.

0:28:570:29:03

Bubbles make them go quiet, there's something about bubbles all kids love.

0:29:040:29:08

That worked perfectly for me today, with the bubbles!

0:29:080:29:12

Everybody was just like amazed about it, like, you know,

0:29:140:29:18

there's something about children,

0:29:180:29:20

they just bring another side out of you, as a person.

0:29:200:29:22

So they were all like, "Wow!," and all like, "Whoa!," you know? So yeah,

0:29:220:29:27

the atmosphere definitely changed in the call centre today. Yeah.

0:29:270:29:30

-Boo!

-Go do it. You do it, you do it.

0:29:320:29:36

Hello, Customer Relations.

0:29:400:29:42

-Duh-duh.

-Da-da!

0:29:420:29:44

And for Aida, trying to juggle her job with her very active toddler,

0:29:440:29:50

the buddy system brings some much-needed relief.

0:29:500:29:53

It's been a hard day for me,

0:29:550:29:57

so I'm having a rest for half an hour, thank God.

0:29:570:30:00

Hello! I'll put it on mine.

0:30:020:30:05

Ah!

0:30:050:30:07

Now you see we can go...

0:30:100:30:12

I haven't done much work.

0:30:130:30:15

I've probably answered two or three calls,

0:30:150:30:18

which usually we answer about 10, 15 by now.

0:30:180:30:22

'I have done absolutely nothing, but I'm still exhausted!

0:30:220:30:27

'So, yeah, it's great(!)'

0:30:270:30:30

People will be on the phone and we'll be making noise, won't we?

0:30:330:30:35

Where are we going, please? Selfridges on Oxford Circus.

0:30:350:30:40

11:30 brings the first sign of major trouble.

0:30:410:30:45

The queue in the call centre is getting longer and longer,

0:30:450:30:48

and manager Emma has to step in.

0:30:480:30:51

Just to remind you, the objective of this, again,

0:30:510:30:54

is that you're actually doing the job with the babies.

0:30:540:30:58

Therefore, the buddies, that role should be there

0:30:580:31:01

if you need to go for a comfort break, to the toilet,

0:31:010:31:04

or if the baby's crying while you're actually taking a booking.

0:31:040:31:08

That's where the buddy steps in to take the baby off you.

0:31:080:31:11

So, we need to change the dynamic now,

0:31:110:31:13

because I need the buddies to do some work today, yeah?

0:31:130:31:17

You've got a big task ahead of you, because you've got two jobs,

0:31:170:31:20

but I need you two to take bookings.

0:31:200:31:21

-Good luck, round two.

-Round two!

0:31:210:31:24

THEY LAUGH

0:31:240:31:26

With over 2,000 calls an hour coming in,

0:31:260:31:28

all workers are closely monitored.

0:31:280:31:31

Emma is keeping an eagle eye on the mums' performance.

0:31:310:31:35

The buddies have taken the role of nannies,

0:31:370:31:40

and therefore the mums are finding it fantastically easy, actually,

0:31:400:31:44

because they're just sitting there

0:31:440:31:46

and somebody's looking after their child.

0:31:460:31:48

So I've just literally had to go out and speak to all the buddies,

0:31:480:31:52

and just gently remind them, really, of the objective,

0:31:520:31:55

so that they all carry on with their job.

0:31:550:31:57

Thank you. And when would you like your car?

0:31:570:31:59

Yes, of course, how can I help?

0:32:010:32:04

Up on the fourth floor, in Customer Services,

0:32:040:32:06

Amira's enthusiasm for the office is beginning to wane.

0:32:060:32:11

AMIRA CRIES

0:32:120:32:14

In this department, each agent has a daily target of 40 calls.

0:32:280:32:32

But Aida is falling way behind,

0:32:320:32:34

and she's worried Amira's affecting her colleagues.

0:32:340:32:38

Her cries are even reaching the far end of the office.

0:32:430:32:47

As you can hear, there's a little bit of noise coming at the moment.

0:32:470:32:51

It did happen while I was on the telephone,

0:32:510:32:53

and the customer mentioned it,

0:32:530:32:54

but again, I just let them know exactly what was going on,

0:32:540:32:57

and they seemed up for it.

0:32:570:32:59

There are sides to the argument that it can work,

0:32:590:33:01

and there are sides that it couldn't work.

0:33:010:33:03

Unfortunately, at the moment, I'm sitting on the fence.

0:33:030:33:05

Mum Aida is fast approaching crisis point.

0:33:050:33:10

Just hearing her screaming makes me really sad now.

0:33:100:33:12

It's the environment, the atmosphere,

0:33:120:33:14

everything is new for her,

0:33:140:33:17

so I think that's why she's behaving that way.

0:33:170:33:19

On the second floor, the finance team are also under pressure.

0:33:230:33:27

On a normal Thursday, by 1pm,

0:33:290:33:31

the team would have processed the wages for all their drivers.

0:33:310:33:35

Monica holds a key role, cross-checking timesheets,

0:33:350:33:38

bonuses and rates.

0:33:380:33:41

You can draw on this side, but not on the other side, OK?

0:33:430:33:46

But with one eye on Natasia,

0:33:460:33:48

it's now 2:30, and she's nowhere near finished.

0:33:480:33:51

-No, no!

-OK, sorry, that way around. OK.

0:33:510:33:55

'It's a lot harder, with Tassy being here.'

0:33:550:33:57

I'm not able to... I thought I was a good multitasker,

0:33:570:33:59

but I'm not able to... to do a few things at once,

0:33:590:34:02

especially when I have a nearly two-year-old running around,

0:34:020:34:06

screaming for attention also,

0:34:060:34:09

'and not wanting to be in this environment.

0:34:090:34:12

'So I'm unable to be as efficient in my job as I normally am.'

0:34:120:34:17

You want to go there?

0:34:170:34:19

Monica, I think, has found it difficult,

0:34:190:34:22

certainly with checking process, she's sat there,

0:34:220:34:26

and she's trying to do things like that, but found it difficult.

0:34:260:34:28

She's probably a couple of hours behind on where she'd normally be,

0:34:280:34:33

as well as passing other tasks on to other people.

0:34:330:34:37

There's just three hours before close of business

0:34:390:34:43

to get all 3,500 drivers paid.

0:34:430:34:45

Obviously, we can't do anything about that till that goes, OK?

0:34:450:34:49

So at the moment, what are you guys doing in between?

0:34:490:34:52

-Just checking bank details.

-Do you want to start credit-card staff?

0:34:520:34:55

We're just going to undo the gross and that's it.

0:34:550:34:57

-That's going to affect my...

-That's going to affect your bad stuff.

0:34:570:35:00

I'm just trying to figure out at the moment who's doing what,

0:35:000:35:05

to get as much done as possible. I think we'll be OK.

0:35:050:35:07

-We've never had a late payment, have we?

-Never had a late payment.

0:35:070:35:11

Never had a late payment for a driver.

0:35:110:35:13

Can't start now just because we've got Natasia in the room, can we?

0:35:130:35:16

For the first time in 30 years,

0:35:160:35:19

the drivers' wages may not be paid on time.

0:35:190:35:22

Monica's dreams of saving on childcare and expanding her family

0:35:220:35:28

are fading fast.

0:35:280:35:29

If that was to ideally work out and I could have Natasia with me,

0:35:290:35:32

or, you know, that would probably push us to think

0:35:320:35:35

we could financially survive if we had another child.

0:35:350:35:39

And I love Natasia so much, it just breaks my heart, thinking...

0:35:390:35:43

I couldn't imagine her just being on her own.

0:35:430:35:45

I just feel like, you know, when you feel like you've worked so hard,

0:35:450:35:49

and you continue to work so hard and it just...

0:35:490:35:53

You don't feel like you always...

0:35:530:35:56

You always feel like you're not doing enough, and with Natasia...

0:35:560:35:59

I think that's with every mum,

0:35:590:36:01

I think every mum probably feels the same as I do -

0:36:010:36:05

we always feel like we're not doing enough.

0:36:050:36:08

With perfect timing, Natasia falls asleep.

0:36:080:36:12

Monica gets some peace, and 3,500 drivers get their wages.

0:36:120:36:19

I was very lucky that Natasia's slept

0:36:190:36:21

and given me time to do everything that went wrong,

0:36:210:36:26

given us time to rectify that.

0:36:260:36:28

Yeah, otherwise I would have had to delegate a lot more stuff out,

0:36:280:36:32

and I didn't have to do that.

0:36:320:36:34

Head of HR Claire is keen to have a child,

0:36:350:36:38

and wants the trial to succeed.

0:36:380:36:42

But she's heard the boys in the sales team aren't happy.

0:36:420:36:44

If you're dealing with, you know, big clients,

0:36:440:36:47

and you've got a baby screaming next to you, it's not very professional.

0:36:470:36:50

It all goes down to the customer as well,

0:36:500:36:52

because if they're ringing up to call a taxi,

0:36:520:36:54

-they can still hear the baby screaming.

-It's unprofessional.

0:36:540:36:57

They should just have a nursery on the fifth floor.

0:36:570:37:00

Yeah, but today they have done it in the call centre,

0:37:000:37:02

where clients have heard the babies in the background,

0:37:020:37:05

and the agents have explained it and some of the clients have been,

0:37:050:37:08

"Oh, that's really brilliant, what a good idea."

0:37:080:37:11

For one or two days, oh, it's lovely,

0:37:110:37:13

but I reckon for every day of your working day, it could never run.

0:37:130:37:16

On this floor, in our department, in sales, it couldn't work.

0:37:160:37:19

And to be honest, it makes you realise

0:37:190:37:20

how much of a break you have from your kids at home.

0:37:200:37:23

Oh, then you come here and you got it all again.

0:37:230:37:25

Hi there, just phoning to see if you received your account details?

0:37:250:37:28

Because we are quite male - which is fine, you know,

0:37:280:37:31

we have a really good time here -

0:37:310:37:33

I think that it will maybe add a bit of a softer side,

0:37:330:37:36

and I don't know, it will be interesting to see, I think,

0:37:360:37:40

will that change the dynamic a bit?

0:37:400:37:42

Down in the call centre, it's a different story.

0:37:440:37:47

The mums' lives are being transformed for the better.

0:37:470:37:52

My day is going great.

0:37:520:37:54

I've managed to balance motherhood as well as work,

0:37:540:37:58

cos it's hard being cooped up in a house with a newborn, 24/7,

0:37:580:38:01

so it's nice to get out and get some fresh air,

0:38:010:38:04

but in this case, I'm at work, earning some money.

0:38:040:38:08

And I don't feel guilty at all, bringing him into work,

0:38:080:38:10

and I don't feel like I'm taking anything away from him,

0:38:100:38:13

because he's still beside me,

0:38:130:38:15

and I'm still giving him all the attention

0:38:150:38:17

I would have given him at home, and if I was at home,

0:38:170:38:19

I would either be doing some sort of cleaning or, you know, whilst...

0:38:190:38:22

Cos I can't play with him 24/7.

0:38:220:38:25

Listening to other people's opinions, I started to think,

0:38:250:38:28

"Oh, maybe it won't work," but now that I'm here

0:38:280:38:30

and I've experienced it for myself,

0:38:300:38:32

I think it's a great idea, and I think it definitely would work now.

0:38:320:38:35

So what can I say? Babies at work, great idea!

0:38:350:38:39

Hey, I've got a guy... Thank you.

0:38:390:38:42

3362. Sorry, I need to get over to chauffeur service,

0:38:420:38:47

I've got a guy who's made a cash booking for the 25th.

0:38:470:38:50

She's met so many different people already.

0:38:500:38:53

I mean, she's been passed around the office,

0:38:530:38:56

she's getting to know new children.

0:38:560:38:58

She's still here with me, so she feels safe.

0:38:580:39:01

She's being fed, she's being changed, she's being stimulated,

0:39:010:39:04

so I don't see any negatives for her.

0:39:040:39:08

I am happy, it feels really good, to be honest,

0:39:080:39:11

it feels really good to be back. And I thought... I kind of forgot,

0:39:110:39:14

cos I was thinking, "Oh, my God,

0:39:140:39:16

"I've been away for almost five months now,"

0:39:160:39:18

but after the initial 10, 15 minutes,

0:39:180:39:21

maybe two, three phone calls, I was right back in the swing of things.

0:39:210:39:24

Aw, pudding, yes!

0:39:240:39:28

But Zara has two babies on her hands,

0:39:280:39:31

and two and a half-year-old Nyla is playing up.

0:39:310:39:34

Nyla's getting bored. She's sitting right there now,

0:39:400:39:43

with a colleague of mine.

0:39:430:39:45

Do you want to come over here? Do you want to come to Mummy? No?

0:39:450:39:48

I feel so bad. Thank you so much, Alisha, thank you.

0:39:480:39:52

That's all right, don't be silly.

0:39:520:39:55

There you go. You don't want to colour no more?

0:39:550:39:59

Are you going to throw it? No?

0:40:020:40:05

Nyla's getting bored.

0:40:210:40:23

I'm thinking maybe I'm better off leaving her at nursery,

0:40:230:40:27

cos she does have fun there.

0:40:270:40:29

She enjoys herself with kids and she learns and she doesn't get bored.

0:40:290:40:33

But I'll stick with Aleena coming with me,

0:40:330:40:35

so I can get a good bonding with my baby.

0:40:350:40:38

When both of them actually woke up and they saw I was with them,

0:40:380:40:41

cos they never do, first thing Aleena said was, "Mummy,"

0:40:410:40:45

like she was so amazed, and I was like, "Aw, yes, it's Mummy!"

0:40:450:40:49

So, yeah, I think it'll be good, and also the whole breastfeeding,

0:40:490:40:52

I just do it while she's with me.

0:40:520:40:54

Do you want some water? Have some water.

0:40:580:41:00

But for one parent, it's all become too much.

0:41:000:41:03

Each mum and dad has been told

0:41:030:41:05

they are free to take their child home at any time.

0:41:050:41:08

At 4:20pm, Aida decides to call it a day.

0:41:080:41:12

I'll be honest with you, I didn't manage to do any work.

0:41:140:41:17

I've literally answered about maybe four calls.

0:41:170:41:21

Amira is a handful, she's very active. Ooh!

0:41:210:41:24

AMIRA CRIES

0:41:240:41:26

Nice?

0:41:380:41:41

OK, let's go.

0:41:410:41:43

I'm happy, actually, to go home!

0:41:430:41:47

With the trial's first resignation, nine babies are now eight.

0:41:470:41:51

-Say bye-bye.

-Bye.

0:41:510:41:55

As a relieved Aida heads home,

0:41:550:41:58

the fate of the scheme hangs in the balance.

0:41:580:42:02

-What time are you leaving?

-About 5:15.

0:42:070:42:09

I've got a meeting at about five anyway, I'll be back by then.

0:42:090:42:12

-Cool, no worries.

-Shall we see how the others are getting on?

0:42:120:42:15

Come on, then.

0:42:150:42:17

HR manager Claire wants the trial to succeed,

0:42:170:42:19

and is hoping to discover it working smoothly.

0:42:190:42:23

We're going to see the other baby.

0:42:230:42:25

-Hi, Peter.

-How are you?

0:42:270:42:28

-Good, you?

-Very well, thank you.

0:42:280:42:30

We've got an addition today, coming up with me.

0:42:300:42:33

Going to the fourth floor.

0:42:330:42:34

Say, "Hi, Peter." She's a bit unsure.

0:42:340:42:36

-Bye-bye. See you later.

-Bye.

0:42:360:42:40

Where are we? We're going to see the other little babies?

0:42:400:42:46

-Say hi.

-Look, Tanisha, it's another baby.

0:42:500:42:54

Has it made you broody, with all these babies?

0:42:560:42:59

-Yeah, it has, actually.

-OK, I want some now!

0:42:590:43:03

-How've you found it?

-I wouldn't say easy, but she's been a delight.

0:43:030:43:06

Yeah, she's been fine.

0:43:060:43:08

It's nearing the end of a unique day.

0:43:080:43:11

Most of the babies may be happy,

0:43:110:43:13

but the thoughts of the managers are turning to the bottom line.

0:43:130:43:17

The call board over there,

0:43:170:43:19

the red and the green dots or circles on there,

0:43:190:43:23

that denotes the amount of calls that they did.

0:43:230:43:26

The green one means that only one person in the team

0:43:260:43:29

did as many or the same amount of calls as what they did yesterday.

0:43:290:43:34

The reds denote that they did less calls then what they did yesterday.

0:43:340:43:37

So that would say to me that, obviously, having the babies in here

0:43:370:43:41

has kind of like slowed down their workload a little bit,

0:43:410:43:45

but we'll see. I might be wrong, but I don't think I am.

0:43:450:43:49

Whilst it's been a positive experience for some parents...

0:43:500:43:55

Right, say bye to Leo. Say, "Bye-bye, Leo, bye."

0:43:550:43:59

Bye, Natasia.

0:43:590:44:00

..others have struggled.

0:44:000:44:02

The drivers' payments only just made it out by the close of day.

0:44:020:44:06

Bye, Liam, bye, guys.

0:44:070:44:09

Good girl, good girl.

0:44:090:44:14

Today has not been as easy as I had planned or envisaged.

0:44:140:44:16

It was great as the novelty factor,

0:44:160:44:19

but then, where I've gone back to my desk

0:44:190:44:22

and saw 14, 16 emails that have come from the last 7 or 8 minutes,

0:44:220:44:25

and I think got to be on top of them, got to be on top of them.

0:44:250:44:28

At no point have I thought, "No really shouldn't have done this."

0:44:280:44:31

-Ready to go?

-Are we done?

0:44:310:44:32

In my mind today I was going to go training,

0:44:320:44:35

go training, nice tea in the evening,

0:44:350:44:38

uh, on second thoughts, I'm going to go have an early night,

0:44:380:44:41

nice bath, relax in front of the TV,

0:44:410:44:43

really veg out, it's been a hard day

0:44:430:44:46

but, yeah, early night tonight, definitely.

0:44:460:44:49

Boys and girls.

0:44:490:44:52

They've been in the office for just one day,

0:44:520:44:54

but the babies have had a significant impact.

0:44:540:44:57

Bye-bye, don't bring your mother in next time.

0:44:570:45:01

The question for MD Liam, is whether he can afford

0:45:010:45:05

to extend the trial for a whole month

0:45:050:45:06

without wrecking the company's bottom line.

0:45:060:45:08

-Hi.

-Hiya.

0:45:110:45:13

The fate of the scheme and the hopes of the parents

0:45:130:45:16

all rest with managing director, Liam.

0:45:160:45:19

-Everybody suitably knackered?

-Yes. Definitely.

0:45:190:45:22

I hear the stats on the fourth floor weren't too clever.

0:45:220:45:25

No, the sales guys, I think only one performed to the same level as the day before.

0:45:250:45:29

And what about your lot, Emma?

0:45:290:45:31

How many calls did they take compared to like normal?

0:45:310:45:33

It was quite telling actually.

0:45:330:45:35

Looking at Zara's stats,

0:45:350:45:37

she took, normally would take 27 calls an hour

0:45:370:45:41

that she's recently been performing, that went down to 19.

0:45:410:45:45

Paul as sort of the only dad that I got to see,

0:45:450:45:47

seemed to be faffing a bit compared to some of the mums

0:45:470:45:50

who just came in, plonked the baby down, fed him, on you go.

0:45:500:45:53

With Paul I think he was milking it a bit more than most.

0:45:530:45:55

How do we think it went? What do we think we can learn from it?

0:45:550:45:58

I'm not sure, I'm still undecided about toddlers that can walk around.

0:45:580:46:03

-Agreed, yeah.

-I'm not sure if that would work,

0:46:030:46:05

but I definitely think children that aren't really mobile

0:46:050:46:08

in terms of walking around, maybe they can crawl around,

0:46:080:46:11

I think could work.

0:46:110:46:13

The jury is out.

0:46:170:46:18

Being in charge of a £200 million company,

0:46:200:46:23

Liam needs proof that it really can work.

0:46:230:46:26

So he and Claire head to America -

0:46:290:46:31

the birthplace of the babies-at-work scheme.

0:46:310:46:34

I want to see how they do it, I want to see if it's...

0:46:360:46:39

If it's struggling to be acceptable over here,

0:46:390:46:42

I think we're going to have big problems trying to get it accepted.

0:46:420:46:45

So I think the important thing is to see how they've implemented it.

0:46:450:46:49

I think now we're here, having done the trial day back at home,

0:46:500:46:55

I think there was a couple of things came out of it,

0:46:550:46:57

it was pretty chaotic,

0:46:570:46:59

so I think one of the more interesting things will be to see,

0:46:590:47:02

how is it in practice for somewhere where the novelty has worn off,

0:47:020:47:06

where they've been doing it for a while, day to day?

0:47:060:47:08

Is it fairly normal, is it just matter of fact,

0:47:080:47:11

come on in, kids get on with it, parents get on with it,

0:47:110:47:14

and they are productive? Or is it still quite a distraction,

0:47:140:47:17

and is it quite a... Does that whole novelty thing

0:47:170:47:21

just play havoc with the actual doing of the job?

0:47:210:47:24

The Arizona State Department Of Health

0:47:330:47:35

has a turnover of 2 billion a year.

0:47:350:47:38

It employs over 1,700 people and,

0:47:410:47:44

to date, has raised 110 babies...

0:47:440:47:46

..with ten currently in residence.

0:47:490:47:51

-Hi, I'm Claire, nice to meet you.

-I'm Liam, hi.

0:47:530:47:55

-Nice to meet you, I'm Bethy.

-And who's this little girl?

0:47:550:47:58

-This is Stella.

-And how long has Stella been coming to work?

0:47:580:48:01

Stella has been here for two months.

0:48:010:48:04

She came when she just turned two months old.

0:48:040:48:07

Workwise, how do you find it doing the work having her around you?

0:48:070:48:10

Workwise it's actually fine. I have things set up how I need them.

0:48:100:48:14

She sits on my lap a little bit.

0:48:140:48:16

But a lot of the time, she'll hang out in her little bouncer,

0:48:160:48:19

and then I have her little toys that I brought from home,

0:48:190:48:23

but I leave them here. So she has these.

0:48:230:48:26

Do they measure your productivity as part of this?

0:48:260:48:30

My workload hasn't changed. I haven't really noticed a difference.

0:48:300:48:33

I mean, I have the same caseload,

0:48:330:48:35

I've had to really keep focused, so when she's sleeping, I'll...

0:48:350:48:38

that's maybe when I make phone calls or something

0:48:380:48:42

where I don't want a baby in the background making noise.

0:48:420:48:45

In the United States, paid maternity leave is not a legal right

0:48:450:48:51

and many mothers who go back to work do so after just a few weeks.

0:48:510:48:55

Babies-at-work schemes are a growing solution to this issue.

0:48:550:49:01

From your boss's point of view, do they measure what happens to you on the days he comes in?

0:49:010:49:05

Does anyone ever pull you in and say,

0:49:050:49:07

-"You haven't done as much today?"

-No.

-No?

0:49:070:49:10

No, they don't do that. No, they're really good about it.

0:49:100:49:14

How much productivity do you drop by?

0:49:140:49:17

I would say about a quarter, 25%.

0:49:170:49:21

-You do about 25% less work as a result.

-Correct, yes.

0:49:210:49:25

That's still 25% across the week,

0:49:250:49:26

so you're going to lose 10 hours work,

0:49:260:49:28

so therefore, from a business point of view,

0:49:280:49:31

our average salary,

0:49:310:49:32

that'd be costing us the best part of 70 quid a week.

0:49:320:49:35

I'm a contractor here, a consultant, so I actually

0:49:350:49:38

am very sensitive to that

0:49:380:49:42

and so then I just don't invoice those hours then, I subtract them.

0:49:420:49:47

-Oh!

-So it doesn't really cost anybody anything.

-Oh, OK.

0:49:470:49:51

The department's babies-at-work scheme has been running for 12 years.

0:49:530:49:59

The man who currently oversees it is director, Will Humble.

0:49:590:50:02

-Hi, Will.

-Oh, hi, you came.

0:50:020:50:05

I'm Claire, nice to meet you.

0:50:060:50:08

Hi, nice to meet you too, thanks for the opportunity.

0:50:080:50:10

-Hi, nice to meet you.

-Thank you for seeing us.

0:50:100:50:13

Hi, come on, have a seat, let's chat for a minute about it.

0:50:130:50:16

Great. Thank you.

0:50:160:50:17

What do you think so far?

0:50:180:50:20

Well, we've certainly met a couple of the ladies that are doing it

0:50:200:50:23

and it seems to be working really well.

0:50:230:50:25

Everyone seems to be absolutely loving it,

0:50:250:50:27

and it's a great thing to have in place.

0:50:270:50:30

Sitting in this job, that's my main priority,

0:50:300:50:33

which is to look at the agency as a whole.

0:50:330:50:35

This is a 2 billion a year agency, that's what our revenue stream is,

0:50:350:50:39

and so I look at it like,

0:50:390:50:41

in order to keep this organisation running not just for today

0:50:410:50:45

but in the long run,

0:50:450:50:46

we've got to build the infrastructure of middle managers

0:50:460:50:50

who are going to be moving into those senior manager positions

0:50:500:50:53

and we've invested a lot of effort into that middle management team

0:50:530:50:58

and a lot of them are women in their 30s, and they're having babies,

0:50:580:51:01

and we can't afford to lose them, so to me, it's really a business deal.

0:51:010:51:04

You don't have any reservations in the productivity drop whilst they've got the kids here?

0:51:040:51:09

Well, it hasn't been a problem,

0:51:090:51:11

but what we gain is a long-term increase in our productivity,

0:51:110:51:16

and we build and continue to reinforce the commitment we have with our employees

0:51:160:51:21

which helps us in the long run to retain those critical employees

0:51:210:51:25

that may have made another choice.

0:51:250:51:28

Most of these women have husbands that have jobs,

0:51:280:51:30

and you know they could probably stay home.

0:51:300:51:34

Just wanted to ask you about something else.

0:51:340:51:37

We're looking at doing it beyond six months.

0:51:370:51:39

I'd say that's brave, but I'm not going to say you can't do it.

0:51:390:51:42

It's all a question of, you know,

0:51:420:51:43

can you bring the resources that you need to make it work?

0:51:430:51:47

We're in the public sector,

0:51:470:51:48

I don't know if you are public or private sector?

0:51:480:51:51

-Private.

-So that means you can go to somebody

0:51:510:51:53

that can write a cheque to make it happen.

0:51:530:51:55

Yeah, I would be the guy writing that cheque, and I'm tempted.

0:51:550:51:58

I think the reasons you give for keeping and retaining

0:51:580:52:01

any member of staff, that's the reason why we're looking at it.

0:52:010:52:04

I mean, it's a good opportunity and it's so easy to do, it really is!

0:52:040:52:08

-Well, I'll hold you to that!

-LAUGHTER

0:52:080:52:10

Thank you for all your information,

0:52:100:52:12

we'll go away a little bit more educated on it now on how to do it.

0:52:120:52:15

-Right, well, good luck with the cause.

-Thank you.

-Bye.

-Bye.

0:52:150:52:20

I think it was good to talk to A, a boss, and B, a man,

0:52:240:52:28

because everyone we've spoken so far has been female,

0:52:280:52:30

and they're probably a little bit more child orientated,

0:52:300:52:33

so to hear a guy say it's a good idea and it's got buy in,

0:52:330:52:36

and it's got benefits, I take with a little bit more credibility,

0:52:360:52:39

so that's why it was good to speak to him from my point of view.

0:52:390:52:42

The reality of why he's got the scheme is he keeps the best staff

0:52:420:52:45

and he retains the people that do the job best for him.

0:52:450:52:50

So that's what you want to do, isn't it?

0:52:500:52:52

-Keep the best middle management women.

-Anyone in mind?

-Me!

0:52:520:52:55

With Liam more reassured about the bottom line,

0:53:040:53:06

he and Claire head to Halcyon Yarns in Maine -

0:53:060:53:09

a medium sized business with over 80,000 customers.

0:53:090:53:15

-Hi, I'm Claire.

-Nice to meet you.

0:53:150:53:18

Founded by Halcyon Blake,

0:53:180:53:19

it has one of the world's longest running babies-at-work schemes.

0:53:190:53:23

Oh, there's the blue one, good, Frieda, you found it, sweetie.

0:53:230:53:27

Halcyon's own daughter, Gretchen,

0:53:300:53:33

was just two days old when she was first taken to work.

0:53:330:53:35

-Nice to meet you.

-The product of this environment.

0:53:350:53:38

-Yeah.

-Lucky me.

-The first one.

-Yeah, I survived.

0:53:380:53:41

She's living proof of the benefits to babies.

0:53:410:53:45

-I don't suppose you can remember it, can you?

-Bits and pieces, sure.

0:53:450:53:48

You know I was here from when she was pregnant with me in the store,

0:53:480:53:53

my entire childhood and, yeah,

0:53:530:53:56

there's probably things I've blocked out,

0:53:560:53:58

don't worry, I've forgot the bad stuff.

0:53:580:54:01

But I think on the whole I was really lucky.

0:54:010:54:03

I mean, I'm very grateful

0:54:030:54:04

and I think it's probably really shaped how I live now as an adult.

0:54:040:54:08

I suppose what we wonder is does it do anything

0:54:080:54:10

to indoctrinate you with a sort of work ethic -

0:54:100:54:12

kids in childcare versus a kid brought in the workplace -

0:54:120:54:15

does it make a difference?

0:54:150:54:17

Absolutely, and I think one of the things

0:54:170:54:19

that's really nice about that is

0:54:190:54:21

I learned not to sort of compartmentalise life versus work,

0:54:210:54:25

so you don't see yourself as I'm at a job and this is what I do there

0:54:250:54:29

and then I leave

0:54:290:54:31

and I have my identity and my family and my personal life.

0:54:310:54:34

You don't have to choose between the things that matter to you,

0:54:340:54:36

you can find a way to make them a part of each other.

0:54:360:54:40

In the UK, work and parenting remain largely separate.

0:54:440:54:49

The average cost of childcare for each baby under two

0:54:490:54:51

is more than £5,000 per year.

0:54:510:54:54

And a quarter of women who go on maternity leave

0:54:580:55:01

don't return to work.

0:55:010:55:03

For employers, this means a significant cost

0:55:050:55:08

in terms of recruiting and training their replacements.

0:55:080:55:13

It's something both business people and experts in social policy want to address.

0:55:140:55:21

The fact is the people are the ones that make the business

0:55:210:55:24

and, if you want to have the best people,

0:55:240:55:26

you've got to treat them properly.

0:55:260:55:28

And if you're going to treat them properly,

0:55:280:55:30

that includes making sure that you've got family-friendly policies

0:55:300:55:34

which gives people flexibility

0:55:340:55:36

and allows them to do what they need to do to support their children.

0:55:360:55:41

As a country, it makes no sense to force families

0:55:410:55:44

to choose between work and bringing up their children.

0:55:440:55:46

We should enable them to balance work and family life,

0:55:460:55:49

providing the kind of childcare, the flexible work opportunities

0:55:490:55:52

that enable them both to have careers

0:55:520:55:54

and to bring up their children.

0:55:540:55:56

At the moment, we force far too many families to give up work

0:55:560:55:59

because they can't afford to do that and provide for their kids.

0:55:590:56:03

Back at the office, it's decision time.

0:56:030:56:06

Will the company extend the trial for a whole month

0:56:060:56:09

or abandon it entirely?

0:56:090:56:11

Liam calls the parents into a meeting.

0:56:110:56:13

Having now seen how it works in America,

0:56:130:56:16

what's your overview of what actually happened and what you saw?

0:56:160:56:20

I didn't fully appreciate quite how easy...

0:56:200:56:23

I was the biggest sceptic of anyone when I first...

0:56:230:56:25

when the idea was first floated, "That's never going to work."

0:56:250:56:28

Having seen it in place,

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it definitely does work, it's just up to what age limit it can work.

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The reaction of the mothers out there

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and the benefits that came with it

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were far more significant than I really thought they could be.

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I really think we can do something quite special and unique in the UK

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and make it work.

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We are committed to giving it a trial,

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we are committed to trialling it.

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Without a doubt. One of the things we did see, it does work.

0:56:470:56:51

Having seeing it in place,

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we are definitely going to be doing something, at your desk,

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I have no doubt that we will be able to make it work at somebody's desk.

0:56:550:56:59

Addisson Lee are going to extend the trial for an entire month.

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Next time, the company puts their £15 million monthly turnover at risk.

0:57:030:57:09

We've had a customer complaint.

0:57:090:57:11

Passenger was expecting a vehicle this morning, important meeting,

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six passengers, car's not arrived.

0:57:150:57:17

More staff are on the verge of pulling out.

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Having both worlds, having Tanisha in my work life in one

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is kind of slipping away.

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I just didn't expect it to be this hard to do both at the same time.

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And the babies aren't the only ones close to tears.

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Today, I'm not really achieving my target because Tyler's teething,

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the most he's slept today has been about 15 minutes.

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Yeah, so, it hasn't been that much of a great day.

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But can the scheme convert the sceptics?

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My name's Kitty Kat.

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In general I've loved having her here, it's been good, good fun. Long may it continue.

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And if you would've seen me at the beginning, I wouldn't have said that.

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And will the boss agree to keep the babies on - permanently?

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-Afternoon, everybody.

-ALL: Afternoon.

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It's been an interesting experiment, you know,

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it's not been without its challenges.

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Whatever we decide today will affect people's lives for the future.

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It will affect people deciding to have families, so it's not a decision we've taken lightly.

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And the decision is...

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