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Addison Lee is Britain's biggest minicab firm. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
A £200 million company, which books 25,000 journeys a day. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Can I take the job number for the booking, please? | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
Call us five minutes before the booked time. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
And where were you going, please? | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
The world of taxis used to be a bloke's business. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Traditionally, the minicab driver comes off the road, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
works in the office, they sit smoking fags and talking about football. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
But the arrival of women has created a problem. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
BABY SCREAMS | 0:00:33 | 0:00:34 | |
Babies. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
Oh, darling. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
These bundles of joy can halt careers in their tracks. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
Childcare now is exorbitantly expensive. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
It's £943 a month. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
So, the company are about to trial a radical American scheme | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
that allows babies in the office. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
It would make me feel happier if I could see her more often. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
I'll feel more involved in her life. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
I feel like I'm a part-time mum now. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
It does make me feel a bit sad at times. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
To succeed, eight parents must combine their day job... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
BABY YELPS | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
..with being mummy and daddy... | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
After all that, you don't want the bottle? | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Nyla, Mummy's going to work now, OK? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
No! | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
OK, that's fine. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
That's all done for you. Is there anything else? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
Yes, that's a baby in the background. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
November 97, 97. November 97... | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
This isn't going to work, is it? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
..and prove the doubters wrong. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Children in the workplace. What's there to discuss? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
There's nothing to discuss. They shouldn't be there, should they? | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
But can the taxi business and babies start a workplace revolution... | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
Yeah! | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
It's nice, yeah, it is kind of a hard-sell environment. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Obviously, I don't want it too airy fairy here. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
..or will this be one journey that all ends in tears? | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Worst-case scenario is it is a complete disaster | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
and the babies scream the whole time | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
and the business comes to a standstill. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Ssh! | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Can I have my agenda back, please? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
With 3,500 cars and 5,000 employees, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Addison Lee is Britain's largest minicab firm. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
No-one likes a cab to be late. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
So in this business, every second counts. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Time is money. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Good afternoon. Can I take your number? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
The price will be £11. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
When would you like the car for? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Historically, it's been a male industry. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
I got this car washed yesterday! | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
But for managing director Liam Griffin, times are changing. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Nearly a third of his office staff are women. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
And they're having families of their own. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
It takes time to replace them, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
it takes time to train up their replacements. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
And ideally, we'll have kept them. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
It's not just the business that suffers. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Across Britain, parents struggle with the cost of childcare, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
and working mums spend an average of just an hour and 20 minutes a day | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
caring for their kids. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
I don't want to work too much | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
so that I never get time to spend with the kids. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
'I can be working while they're with me, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
'and I can also be bonding with them at the same time.' | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Mum! | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
To solve these problems, Liam's going to do something radical. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
In America, over 170 companies run babies-at-work schemes, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
allowing parents to bring their babies into the office. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
Not in a creche or a nursery, but right next to them at their desks. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:59 | |
If someone brought this up and mentioned it to you in a pub, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
you'd just go, "What a stupid idea." It's... It is. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
When you initially hear it, you think, "That'll ever work." | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Addison Lee will be the first British company | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
to try out this scheme. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
As supportive as I am of this concept, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
if it's not working, we can't carry on. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
We can't be persevere just for the sake of it. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
There's a big risk here, and if it doesn't work in this one day, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
then we will have to, you know, call it a day at that point. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
For Liam, parenting and work is something that's close to his heart. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
My wife has been through a similar scenario. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
She's a teacher, had the children, wanted to come back to work, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
and there's a tear, there's a draw. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
Yes, "I want to go back to work but I don't want to leave my kid?." | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
So I've been there. I've seen it first-hand, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
so I can relate to it a lot more now that I've been there. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
So when you put all those in the pot, I think, you know, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
let's give it a go, let's see what we can do for these mothers. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Liam's head of Human Resources, Claire, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
has been with the company for over five years. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
It will be her job to manage the trial, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
and she's curious about it for her own reasons. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
On a personal level, this experiment is very relevant. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
You know, I'm mid-30s, early 30s, mid-30s... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
Of course, children have crossed my mind. Of course, it is on my radar. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
I definitely want to be a mum, I definitely want children, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
all of those things. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
But have I held back a certain... because of my career? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
Yes. I definitely have. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
I don't feel upset about that. That's the choice I've made. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
But I definitely think that... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
I know if I had a baby, I'd want to come back to work quite soon. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
I'd want to come back after three or four months. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
But not everyone in the office shares the enthusiasm. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
A full-time job at Addison Lee is a full-time job, believe me. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
It's a busy, busy company, and we need to be on the ball all the time, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
otherwise things could go horribly wrong very quickly. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
They'll be at six months coming in, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
screaming on the phone to a client, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
"Yes, sir, we're going to be ten minutes for your parcel," | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
a baby screaming in the background. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
It's a full-time job. Being a mum or a parent is a full-time job. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
End of. It can't work, it just can't work. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
No British company has ever done this before. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
For Liam, this is one of the biggest gambles of his career. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
There's going to be cost implications against this. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
There's going to be, potentially, loss of earnings from this. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
And you worry about the brand. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
We spent a long time building this brand. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
We don't want to damage it just by trying to do something a bit clever. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Safety is a top priority, so the office is baby-proofed | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
from top to bottom | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
under the guidance of health-and-safety officers. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
Any of the socket faces that are missing, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
we should have the safety connectors | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
and get as much of this clipped back as possible. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
Could we all make a bit of a team effort, just from | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
a health-and-safety point of view? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
If there's any bits and pieces that can be grabbed or pulled | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
or that babies may be able to pick up, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
if you can get them into your drawers, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
Spare office space is transformed into a playroom. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Amongst the staff, 78 have children under two, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
and ten are currently on maternity leave. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
In total, eight mums and dads have agreed to take part in the trial. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:29 | |
Look, Tyler. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
'It's just me. Me and Tyler.' | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
First-time mum 23-year-old Thelma | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
has been with the company for four years. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
She's currently on maternity leave with her nine-week-old son, Tyler. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
Thelma's on her own, and receives £128 a week in maternity pay. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
This scheme could provide her with a financial lifeline. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
My parents, they work full-time, so they don't have the time | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
whatsoever to, erm, look after Tyler. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
I could leave him with a childminder, but I can't afford it. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
Since I heard about the project, to be honest, I was just really excited, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
because I knew I wanted to go back to work earlier, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
so I said to myself, "Wow, I can't believe it's actually come about." | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
Financially, that will make a big difference to us, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
because I don't want to be on benefits, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
and yeah, I'll be able to pay my rent and just be able to go on holiday | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
and do normal things. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
But Thelma's call-centre job is hard enough already, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
let alone with a baby. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
They've got a lot of targets that they need to meet, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
and they're about customers, customers, customers, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
so I can't imagine them willing to risk losing their customers. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:08 | |
Aida is mum to Amira, and has another child on the way. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
She'd love the scheme to work, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
but is worried about how disruptive babies in the office will be. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Some of my colleagues do not like kids, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
so it will be a bit hard, and I'm very over-protective of Amira. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:32 | |
I don't want her to be rejected. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Because it's not everybody's cup of tea to have children in the office. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
Eight volunteers with their nine babies | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
want to prove to Liam this scheme can work. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
At first, the trial will run for just one day. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
If it works, it will be extended for a whole month, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
giving Liam plenty of time to assess | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
whether babies can be good for business. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Hello, Amira! | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
Say hello, bubba! | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
Good afternoon, Addison Lee. How can I help? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
It's 8am, and the start of the morning shift in the call centre. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:26 | |
This team handles 25,000 calls a day, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
with call durations strictly monitored. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Wasted time means wasted money. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
The call centre is where it all happens. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
It's the coalface. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
This has to be a ruthless machine in terms of running it, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
because we get it right so often, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
if we get it wrong once, then our customers don't forgive us. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
Yes, we thought this area, there's a bit more space. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
23-year-old Zara is bringing in her two daughters, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
baby Alina and toddler Nyla. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
You want to come to me? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
Hello, aw. Hello! | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
Not bothered, are you? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
They're very chilled. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
They weren't like that in the car. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
We'll put all the mothers in this area. We'll have three mothers here. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
We'll get rid of some of the seats so there's space to play, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
so they're not just sat at a table, really. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
This is quite easy! | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
For the last two years, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
single mum Zara has been getting up before 4am | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
so she can do the 6am shift and be home to see her daughters | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
in the afternoon. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
It's exhausting, and she still feels she doesn't see them enough. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
Every morning, when I leave at 5:20 in the morning, I hate it. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
I just think, "I should be in bed with the kids." | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
'When I walk out the door, I just think, "Oh". | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
'I just want to rush back home and I just want to hurry up and finish.' | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
How cute! | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
At two and a half, Nyla is the oldest child | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
taking part in the experiment. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Mum! | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
Nyla, Mummy's going to go... Mummy's going to work now, OK? | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Look! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
Yes, you colour and eat your fruits, OK? Good girl. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Good morning, you're through to Zara. Can I take your phone number, please? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
And going to...? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Thank you for calling, bye. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Hey, what's wrong? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
The caller didn't say anything. He heard Alina. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
He just laughed! | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
This trial day isn't just for mums. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
Next to arrive is car control manager Paul, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
with his 11-month-old daughter Lyla. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
LYLA CRIES | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Have you got the piggies? Let's get piggies! | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
SHE CRIES | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Look at the piggies. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
Arms up. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
He's been given step-by-step instructions from Mum | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
to keep her baby happy. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
This is Mummy's list of what Daddy should be doing. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
8:30, breakfast. Toast and Weetabix. So she can have cow's milk, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
but no sugar. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
12:30, lunch. Various bits and pieces, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
and she can have water any time, always boiled. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
This has to be kept, stapled and all the rest. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:51 | |
42-year-old Paul has worked at the company for 15 years. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Baby Lyla was a surprise addition to his family. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Now, he's keen to bring her to work, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
because he doesn't want to miss out on seeing her grow up. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Come on, then! Yes! | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
Rather than, you know, the nursery care teacher seeing it, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
or Mum seeing it, it will be nice to say, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
"I was there the first time you fell over, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
"you took your first steps," and that kind of situation, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
'so it would be great for me. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
'It would help Mum. I think it would make me very happy.' | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
Are you ready for a knife and fork, do you think? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-Let's get that door for you. -Thank you very much. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Pleasure. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
One floor up is the finance department. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
On a normal day, it's as quiet as a library. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
And, apart from pricing assistant Monica, staffed entirely by men. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
So who's that? Who's that? Say hello. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
What's that? Look at that. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Our job is basically attention to detail. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
If we don't get it right, then we'll have a lot of drivers | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
contact us the following week, a lot of queries on our side. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Phones have been off the hook recently, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
so we need to be accurate, and we need to be sure | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
that we're paying the drivers correctly | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
every week on every single job. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
So, how will 22-month-old Natasia | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
affect the office on such an important day? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
You all right, bubs? You're just taking the butter off it? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
-You're supposed to eat all of it, Googla. -Can I have some? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
No, say, "It's mine." | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Monica is eager to expand her family, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
but unless this trial succeeds, she can't afford to. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
'I'd love to have another child, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
'but at the moment, financially, I can't see it working out.' | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
Currently, we're spending £4,500 a year on just one child, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
two days a week at nursery. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
'There'd be no way I could find another £4,000, £5,000 a year.' | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
I know there's a couple of parents | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
that have taken part in the experiment, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
and a couple of parents throughout the business | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
that have maybe had one child and are actually holding back | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
on having their second till the first one's in school | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
because of the costs, and I just think that's a bad state of affairs, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
where you are deciding when you are going to have your family | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
not based on when you want your children, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
but when you can afford to have them, and I just think that's a real shame. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
I need someone to do me a favour. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Googla, be careful, bubs. Erm, who's not doing anything? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
What do you need, Monica? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Erm, someone put the diaries in for me? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
-Diaries in? -Yeah. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Right, so they go... And previous week, that's a charge... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
CHILD CRIES | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Do you want a pen? Here. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-Mine. -There you go. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Uh, what she writing on? That's fine. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
Just delegated a few things out, it's all right. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
I've put it all together, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
just got to get a couple of emails back | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
and I should be ready to go with the vans, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
so...hoping she'll stay like this! | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
She's a bit grumpy today, to be honest, she's teething very badly. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
So I hope she will be OK today. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
In customer services, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
Aida arrives with her 22-month-old daughter Amira, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
who's used to a nursery and a set routine. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
'I know it's working in America,' | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
and I hope it will be working in here, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
so it can help other mothers to go back to work | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
and look after their child at the same time, without high expenses. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
Say hello, baba, say hello... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
-How are we? -Oh, it's been a rush this morning, oh, nightmare. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
So I'm just feeding her because she's hungry now, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
and then hopefully, she'll be in a better mood. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Oh, dear! You don't want any more? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
'I don't want Amira to see me just as a mother looking after her.' | 0:18:15 | 0:18:21 | |
I want her to show, you know, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
that you have to work hard to get to where you are. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
So yeah, that would be a good example for Amira as well. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Blow your nose. Aah. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
You like to blow kisses? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
THEY LAUGHS | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Bravo! She's so funny! | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
We have such a good time at home, I tell you! | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
Just processing your account for you. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Another-high pressure department taking on a new recruit is | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
the sales team. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
All of our accounts work on a monthly credit facility, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
so otherwise it's going to be like | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
a pay-as-you-go cash or credit card service. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
-Stop bitchin' and get pitchin'. -Stop bitchin' and get pitchin'. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
I don't want to pitch in case the baby starts crying. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
You've all got 25 minutes to get that that to green, yeah? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
The trial has barely begun, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
and the boss of the department already has his doubts. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
The guys are commission-based. They do get a basic as well, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
but, you know, bulk of their wage is commission. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
They'll say, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
"Oh, Tyrone's this and that, he doesn't want the babies here" - | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
we don't mind it, but you see their commission figures | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
ain't where they should be, you'll see a different side to them, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
I can promise you. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
It's 10am. By now, car control manager Paul is usually | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
well into his workload. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
See, she's showing management... you know... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
-Potential. -Absolutely. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
What your dad does in here is pretty much nothing - | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
he's got all these other people doing all the work for him, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
and that's why he's called a manager. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Say we don't want to do no work, do we? | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
We want to skive all day. Play with babies. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Ah, she's drawing on the mouth, excellent, that's what I normally | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-go home with, bit of pen on me. -There we go. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
I wish I'd brought my kid up, I tell ya. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
We've been in 55 minutes, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
and we're now just about to log in. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
I'd like to say I'm about an hour behind now. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
All right, we'll get you in your car. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
There. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
Have you written an e-mail yet? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
-I'll catch up. -Just write one e-mail, just to see, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
because that means you've actually worked with the baby in the office. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
See, I'm logged in. Eventually! | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
-See, you've e-mailed the MD, saying, "I've logged in." -Exactly! | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
She clocked in herself at half seven, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
so she's looking for a day's pay! | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
With your finger, you clocked in with your finger! | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Slow down, slow down, slow down! | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
Booked to work a late-morning shift, mum of six Shellon is coming back | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
from maternity leave specially to give the trial a go. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
'I've got five boys. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
'Madika is my only girl, so I've got six kids.' | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
The older ones, they're in uni and not living at home, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
and I've got a little one, Elijah - he's in full-time school. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
Don't go in class without me. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
She's alarmed by the cost of childcare | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
and doesn't want her new baby to keep her off the career ladder. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
'I don't want to be stuck in my house all day, every day.' | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
I like that buzz of getting up and going out there | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
and, you know, earning my living, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
and I don't think just because I have a baby | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
I should be shoved into a corner or locked out of sight. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
Why can't I still mingle and do all the things | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
'that I would normally do?' | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
You have a good day, you understand? All right, go in. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
OK, thank you. All right. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Her hopes are high, but after five months off, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
she'll have to hit the ground running. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
This one on the end? Ah, no, give me the end, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
because then I can put the chair here. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
So, that works out perfectly. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Five minutes, all organised, and she's ready to go. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
So, you can spot the mum with six children! | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Thank you! | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
I think I really, actually, could do this. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
No sooner has she arrived than she's in the hot seat. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
Good morning, Addison Lee, Shellon speaking, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
can I take passenger's contact number, please? | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Are you going to be the passenger? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
All right. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
OK, so there's two of you, that's fine. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
And you want to go to the Gatwick Express? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
OK, hold on. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
And that's all booked for 12:45 this afternoon. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Thanks. Bye-bye. | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
OK! Phew, that was nerve-wracking, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
I haven't taken a call in months, but I did it. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
A quote, a price... | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
By 10.30am, all parents and babies are at their desks. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
And for the moment at least, all is peaceful. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
-I can't hear no children. -Exactly. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
Marvellous, ain't it? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
-There's loads of them in here. -Later, come see me later. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
It's not right, is it? Look at her, poor little love, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
she needs attention. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
Is that yours? Both of them? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
She's allowed to bring two in? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
That's not allowed, is it? There you are, look! | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
I'm going, no, I'm going! See you later. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
We'll go for plan B, which is bottle time. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Let's go to our bottle. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
It's feeding time for Lila, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
and Paul's management skills are being given a thorough test. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
There we go. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Oh, after all that, you don't want a bottle? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
Ah, no, we'll go for plan C. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
Could eventually get up to D and E. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
There. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
Do you think you're going to sleep? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
You're not eating bobo? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Right, well, I'm going to go like this, then, strap you in, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
but we're not going in the car. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Keep you there, and you'll hide. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
There! | 0:24:39 | 0:24:40 | |
You can have a nice sleep in there, and hide! | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Have your botbot in peace. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
If I leave her alone for a few minutes, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
she just goes into her own thing and goes to sleep. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Can I put you back in? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
No, OK. You going to sit on my lap? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Going to sit on my lap? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Multi-tasking, you know! | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
-But you normally type with one hand anyway. -Yeah! | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
For Zara, the early signs are promising. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
What's wrong? Huh? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
OK, baby, you sit on Mummy's lap, OK? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
Good morning, you're through to Zara. Can I take the account number, please? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
OK, is this cash or account? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
OK, can I start by taking your phone number, please? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
OK, so that's a total price of £22.30, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
car's booked for 10am this morning. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Thank you for calling. Take care, bye. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
She's staying on top of her work, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
and has discovered another benefit of the trial. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
No? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
OK, OK. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Nyla, are you going come with Mummy? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Do you want to use my office for breastfeeding? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
I've just put the blinds down, look. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
-Let's go around to the left here. -Oh, right, OK. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
This is a really good thing, I get to breastfeed her during the day, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
instead of her just staying without it. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
So what I'm going to do, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
just breastfeed her and go back on the phones. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Each of the parents has nominated a buddy to help out in emergencies. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
Paul's job involves external meetings, so it's not long | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
before his buddy - head of HR, Claire - is asked to step in. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
When she wakes up, or if she wakes up in the next 20 minutes or so, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
-just take her out. -I'll just get her out of that? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
Yeah, just comfort her for a minute for two. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
I'm hoping that she doesn't maybe need the toilet till you come back. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
Maybe, hoping... | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
-Fingers crossed. -How've you got on today, so far, this morning? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
In a way, it's actually pushing you, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
so rather than dilly-dallying with one of the other departments, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
it's, "OK, I need this, can we do this? | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
-"How long will this take?" So actually... -Less small talk? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
-Absolutely. Yeah. She's great at the moment. -Off you go, then. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-I'll be back as quick as I can. Call me if there's any problems. -OK. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-Thank you. -Right. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
The kids all seem quite chilled, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:38 | |
don't seem to be suffering from the fact they're here. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
That was my main worry, are we not giving them the right development, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
or, you know, are we being cruel to children by bringing them in? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
But actually, I think they're really excited | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
and looking at all the new people and everything that's going on, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
and to be honest, I don't think it's the kids that are bothered - | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
it's the adults. As you can see! | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
She's going for the vintage. OK. There we are. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
-There we are. -Wow. Look. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
According to experts, babies-at-work schemes can benefit | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
both parents and children. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Certainly, a small amount of time in the work environment for the child | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
could well be beneficial in terms of expanding the child's experience. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
Small periods, like a day a week or two or three half days a week, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
would almost certainly not be detrimental to the child. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
She's been all right, hasn't she? | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Quite placid, this one. We don't mind babies if they behave like this! | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
That's what our drivers do, drive into lots of things! | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
It's late morning, and the staff are not only getting used to | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
having the new recruits around some are positively enjoying them. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
Bubbles make them go quiet, there's something about bubbles all kids love. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
That worked perfectly for me today, with the bubbles! | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Everybody was just like amazed about it, like, you know, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
there's something about children, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
they just bring another side out of you, as a person. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
So they were all like, "Wow!," and all like, "Whoa!," you know? So yeah, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
the atmosphere definitely changed in the call centre today. Yeah. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
-Boo! -Go do it. You do it, you do it. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
Hello, Customer Relations. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
-Duh-duh. -Da-da! | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
And for Aida, trying to juggle her job with her very active toddler, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:50 | |
the buddy system brings some much-needed relief. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
It's been a hard day for me, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
so I'm having a rest for half an hour, thank God. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Hello! I'll put it on mine. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Ah! | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
Now you see we can go... | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
I haven't done much work. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
I've probably answered two or three calls, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
which usually we answer about 10, 15 by now. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
'I have done absolutely nothing, but I'm still exhausted! | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
'So, yeah, it's great(!)' | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
People will be on the phone and we'll be making noise, won't we? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Where are we going, please? Selfridges on Oxford Circus. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
11:30 brings the first sign of major trouble. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
The queue in the call centre is getting longer and longer, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
and manager Emma has to step in. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
Just to remind you, the objective of this, again, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
is that you're actually doing the job with the babies. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
Therefore, the buddies, that role should be there | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
if you need to go for a comfort break, to the toilet, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
or if the baby's crying while you're actually taking a booking. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
That's where the buddy steps in to take the baby off you. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
So, we need to change the dynamic now, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
because I need the buddies to do some work today, yeah? | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
You've got a big task ahead of you, because you've got two jobs, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
but I need you two to take bookings. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:21 | |
-Good luck, round two. -Round two! | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
With over 2,000 calls an hour coming in, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
all workers are closely monitored. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
Emma is keeping an eagle eye on the mums' performance. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
The buddies have taken the role of nannies, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
and therefore the mums are finding it fantastically easy, actually, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
because they're just sitting there | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
and somebody's looking after their child. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
So I've just literally had to go out and speak to all the buddies, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
and just gently remind them, really, of the objective, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
so that they all carry on with their job. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
Thank you. And when would you like your car? | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
Yes, of course, how can I help? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Up on the fourth floor, in Customer Services, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
Amira's enthusiasm for the office is beginning to wane. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
AMIRA CRIES | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
In this department, each agent has a daily target of 40 calls. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
But Aida is falling way behind, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
and she's worried Amira's affecting her colleagues. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
Her cries are even reaching the far end of the office. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
As you can hear, there's a little bit of noise coming at the moment. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
It did happen while I was on the telephone, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
and the customer mentioned it, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
but again, I just let them know exactly what was going on, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
and they seemed up for it. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
There are sides to the argument that it can work, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
and there are sides that it couldn't work. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
Unfortunately, at the moment, I'm sitting on the fence. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
Mum Aida is fast approaching crisis point. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
Just hearing her screaming makes me really sad now. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
It's the environment, the atmosphere, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
everything is new for her, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
so I think that's why she's behaving that way. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
On the second floor, the finance team are also under pressure. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
On a normal Thursday, by 1pm, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
the team would have processed the wages for all their drivers. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
Monica holds a key role, cross-checking timesheets, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
bonuses and rates. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
You can draw on this side, but not on the other side, OK? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
But with one eye on Natasia, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
it's now 2:30, and she's nowhere near finished. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
-No, no! -OK, sorry, that way around. OK. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
'It's a lot harder, with Tassy being here.' | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
I'm not able to... I thought I was a good multitasker, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
but I'm not able to... to do a few things at once, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
especially when I have a nearly two-year-old running around, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
screaming for attention also, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
'and not wanting to be in this environment. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
'So I'm unable to be as efficient in my job as I normally am.' | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
You want to go there? | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
Monica, I think, has found it difficult, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
certainly with checking process, she's sat there, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
and she's trying to do things like that, but found it difficult. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
She's probably a couple of hours behind on where she'd normally be, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
as well as passing other tasks on to other people. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
There's just three hours before close of business | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
to get all 3,500 drivers paid. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Obviously, we can't do anything about that till that goes, OK? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
So at the moment, what are you guys doing in between? | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
-Just checking bank details. -Do you want to start credit-card staff? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
We're just going to undo the gross and that's it. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
-That's going to affect my... -That's going to affect your bad stuff. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
I'm just trying to figure out at the moment who's doing what, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
to get as much done as possible. I think we'll be OK. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
-We've never had a late payment, have we? -Never had a late payment. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
Never had a late payment for a driver. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Can't start now just because we've got Natasia in the room, can we? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
For the first time in 30 years, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
the drivers' wages may not be paid on time. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Monica's dreams of saving on childcare and expanding her family | 0:35:22 | 0:35:28 | |
are fading fast. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
If that was to ideally work out and I could have Natasia with me, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
or, you know, that would probably push us to think | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
we could financially survive if we had another child. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
And I love Natasia so much, it just breaks my heart, thinking... | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
I couldn't imagine her just being on her own. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
I just feel like, you know, when you feel like you've worked so hard, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
and you continue to work so hard and it just... | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
You don't feel like you always... | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
You always feel like you're not doing enough, and with Natasia... | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
I think that's with every mum, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
I think every mum probably feels the same as I do - | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
we always feel like we're not doing enough. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
With perfect timing, Natasia falls asleep. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
Monica gets some peace, and 3,500 drivers get their wages. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:19 | |
I was very lucky that Natasia's slept | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
and given me time to do everything that went wrong, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
given us time to rectify that. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
Yeah, otherwise I would have had to delegate a lot more stuff out, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
and I didn't have to do that. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
Head of HR Claire is keen to have a child, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
and wants the trial to succeed. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
But she's heard the boys in the sales team aren't happy. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
If you're dealing with, you know, big clients, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
and you've got a baby screaming next to you, it's not very professional. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
It all goes down to the customer as well, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
because if they're ringing up to call a taxi, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
-they can still hear the baby screaming. -It's unprofessional. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
They should just have a nursery on the fifth floor. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Yeah, but today they have done it in the call centre, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
where clients have heard the babies in the background, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
and the agents have explained it and some of the clients have been, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
"Oh, that's really brilliant, what a good idea." | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
For one or two days, oh, it's lovely, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
but I reckon for every day of your working day, it could never run. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
On this floor, in our department, in sales, it couldn't work. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
And to be honest, it makes you realise | 0:37:19 | 0:37:20 | |
how much of a break you have from your kids at home. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
Oh, then you come here and you got it all again. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
Hi there, just phoning to see if you received your account details? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
Because we are quite male - which is fine, you know, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
we have a really good time here - | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
I think that it will maybe add a bit of a softer side, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
and I don't know, it will be interesting to see, I think, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
will that change the dynamic a bit? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Down in the call centre, it's a different story. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
The mums' lives are being transformed for the better. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
My day is going great. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
I've managed to balance motherhood as well as work, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
cos it's hard being cooped up in a house with a newborn, 24/7, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
so it's nice to get out and get some fresh air, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
but in this case, I'm at work, earning some money. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
And I don't feel guilty at all, bringing him into work, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
and I don't feel like I'm taking anything away from him, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
because he's still beside me, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
and I'm still giving him all the attention | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
I would have given him at home, and if I was at home, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
I would either be doing some sort of cleaning or, you know, whilst... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Cos I can't play with him 24/7. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
Listening to other people's opinions, I started to think, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
"Oh, maybe it won't work," but now that I'm here | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
and I've experienced it for myself, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
I think it's a great idea, and I think it definitely would work now. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
So what can I say? Babies at work, great idea! | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
Hey, I've got a guy... Thank you. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
3362. Sorry, I need to get over to chauffeur service, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
I've got a guy who's made a cash booking for the 25th. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
She's met so many different people already. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
I mean, she's been passed around the office, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
she's getting to know new children. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
She's still here with me, so she feels safe. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
She's being fed, she's being changed, she's being stimulated, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
so I don't see any negatives for her. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
I am happy, it feels really good, to be honest, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
it feels really good to be back. And I thought... I kind of forgot, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
cos I was thinking, "Oh, my God, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
"I've been away for almost five months now," | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
but after the initial 10, 15 minutes, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
maybe two, three phone calls, I was right back in the swing of things. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Aw, pudding, yes! | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
But Zara has two babies on her hands, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
and two and a half-year-old Nyla is playing up. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Nyla's getting bored. She's sitting right there now, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
with a colleague of mine. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
Do you want to come over here? Do you want to come to Mummy? No? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
I feel so bad. Thank you so much, Alisha, thank you. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
That's all right, don't be silly. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
There you go. You don't want to colour no more? | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Are you going to throw it? No? | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
Nyla's getting bored. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
I'm thinking maybe I'm better off leaving her at nursery, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
cos she does have fun there. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
She enjoys herself with kids and she learns and she doesn't get bored. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
But I'll stick with Aleena coming with me, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
so I can get a good bonding with my baby. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
When both of them actually woke up and they saw I was with them, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
cos they never do, first thing Aleena said was, "Mummy," | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
like she was so amazed, and I was like, "Aw, yes, it's Mummy!" | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
So, yeah, I think it'll be good, and also the whole breastfeeding, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
I just do it while she's with me. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
Do you want some water? Have some water. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
But for one parent, it's all become too much. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
Each mum and dad has been told | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
they are free to take their child home at any time. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
At 4:20pm, Aida decides to call it a day. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
I'll be honest with you, I didn't manage to do any work. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
I've literally answered about maybe four calls. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
Amira is a handful, she's very active. Ooh! | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
AMIRA CRIES | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
Nice? | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
OK, let's go. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
I'm happy, actually, to go home! | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
With the trial's first resignation, nine babies are now eight. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
-Say bye-bye. -Bye. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
As a relieved Aida heads home, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
the fate of the scheme hangs in the balance. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
-What time are you leaving? -About 5:15. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
I've got a meeting at about five anyway, I'll be back by then. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-Cool, no worries. -Shall we see how the others are getting on? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
Come on, then. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
HR manager Claire wants the trial to succeed, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
and is hoping to discover it working smoothly. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
We're going to see the other baby. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
-Hi, Peter. -How are you? | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
-Good, you? -Very well, thank you. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
We've got an addition today, coming up with me. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Going to the fourth floor. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
Say, "Hi, Peter." She's a bit unsure. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
-Bye-bye. See you later. -Bye. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
Where are we? We're going to see the other little babies? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:46 | |
-Say hi. -Look, Tanisha, it's another baby. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
Has it made you broody, with all these babies? | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
-Yeah, it has, actually. -OK, I want some now! | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
-How've you found it? -I wouldn't say easy, but she's been a delight. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Yeah, she's been fine. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
It's nearing the end of a unique day. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
Most of the babies may be happy, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
but the thoughts of the managers are turning to the bottom line. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
The call board over there, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
the red and the green dots or circles on there, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
that denotes the amount of calls that they did. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
The green one means that only one person in the team | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
did as many or the same amount of calls as what they did yesterday. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:34 | |
The reds denote that they did less calls then what they did yesterday. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
So that would say to me that, obviously, having the babies in here | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
has kind of like slowed down their workload a little bit, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
but we'll see. I might be wrong, but I don't think I am. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
Whilst it's been a positive experience for some parents... | 0:43:50 | 0:43:55 | |
Right, say bye to Leo. Say, "Bye-bye, Leo, bye." | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
Bye, Natasia. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:00 | |
..others have struggled. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
The drivers' payments only just made it out by the close of day. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
Bye, Liam, bye, guys. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
Good girl, good girl. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
Today has not been as easy as I had planned or envisaged. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
It was great as the novelty factor, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
but then, where I've gone back to my desk | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
and saw 14, 16 emails that have come from the last 7 or 8 minutes, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
and I think got to be on top of them, got to be on top of them. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
At no point have I thought, "No really shouldn't have done this." | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
-Ready to go? -Are we done? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:32 | |
In my mind today I was going to go training, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
go training, nice tea in the evening, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
uh, on second thoughts, I'm going to go have an early night, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
nice bath, relax in front of the TV, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
really veg out, it's been a hard day | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
but, yeah, early night tonight, definitely. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Boys and girls. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
They've been in the office for just one day, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
but the babies have had a significant impact. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
Bye-bye, don't bring your mother in next time. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
The question for MD Liam, is whether he can afford | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
to extend the trial for a whole month | 0:45:05 | 0:45:06 | |
without wrecking the company's bottom line. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
-Hi. -Hiya. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
The fate of the scheme and the hopes of the parents | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
all rest with managing director, Liam. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
-Everybody suitably knackered? -Yes. Definitely. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
I hear the stats on the fourth floor weren't too clever. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
No, the sales guys, I think only one performed to the same level as the day before. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
And what about your lot, Emma? | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
How many calls did they take compared to like normal? | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
It was quite telling actually. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
Looking at Zara's stats, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
she took, normally would take 27 calls an hour | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
that she's recently been performing, that went down to 19. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
Paul as sort of the only dad that I got to see, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
seemed to be faffing a bit compared to some of the mums | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
who just came in, plonked the baby down, fed him, on you go. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
With Paul I think he was milking it a bit more than most. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
How do we think it went? What do we think we can learn from it? | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
I'm not sure, I'm still undecided about toddlers that can walk around. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
-Agreed, yeah. -I'm not sure if that would work, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
but I definitely think children that aren't really mobile | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
in terms of walking around, maybe they can crawl around, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
I think could work. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
The jury is out. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:18 | |
Being in charge of a £200 million company, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
Liam needs proof that it really can work. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
So he and Claire head to America - | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
the birthplace of the babies-at-work scheme. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
I want to see how they do it, I want to see if it's... | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
If it's struggling to be acceptable over here, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
I think we're going to have big problems trying to get it accepted. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
So I think the important thing is to see how they've implemented it. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
I think now we're here, having done the trial day back at home, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
I think there was a couple of things came out of it, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
it was pretty chaotic, | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
so I think one of the more interesting things will be to see, | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
how is it in practice for somewhere where the novelty has worn off, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
where they've been doing it for a while, day to day? | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
Is it fairly normal, is it just matter of fact, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
come on in, kids get on with it, parents get on with it, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
and they are productive? Or is it still quite a distraction, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
and is it quite a... Does that whole novelty thing | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
just play havoc with the actual doing of the job? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
The Arizona State Department Of Health | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
has a turnover of 2 billion a year. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
It employs over 1,700 people and, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
to date, has raised 110 babies... | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
..with ten currently in residence. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
-Hi, I'm Claire, nice to meet you. -I'm Liam, hi. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
-Nice to meet you, I'm Bethy. -And who's this little girl? | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
-This is Stella. -And how long has Stella been coming to work? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
Stella has been here for two months. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
She came when she just turned two months old. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
Workwise, how do you find it doing the work having her around you? | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
Workwise it's actually fine. I have things set up how I need them. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
She sits on my lap a little bit. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
But a lot of the time, she'll hang out in her little bouncer, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
and then I have her little toys that I brought from home, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
but I leave them here. So she has these. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
Do they measure your productivity as part of this? | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
My workload hasn't changed. I haven't really noticed a difference. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
I mean, I have the same caseload, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
I've had to really keep focused, so when she's sleeping, I'll... | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
that's maybe when I make phone calls or something | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
where I don't want a baby in the background making noise. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
In the United States, paid maternity leave is not a legal right | 0:48:45 | 0:48:51 | |
and many mothers who go back to work do so after just a few weeks. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
Babies-at-work schemes are a growing solution to this issue. | 0:48:55 | 0:49:01 | |
From your boss's point of view, do they measure what happens to you on the days he comes in? | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
Does anyone ever pull you in and say, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
-"You haven't done as much today?" -No. -No? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
No, they don't do that. No, they're really good about it. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
How much productivity do you drop by? | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
I would say about a quarter, 25%. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
-You do about 25% less work as a result. -Correct, yes. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
That's still 25% across the week, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:26 | |
so you're going to lose 10 hours work, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
so therefore, from a business point of view, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
our average salary, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:32 | |
that'd be costing us the best part of 70 quid a week. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
I'm a contractor here, a consultant, so I actually | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
am very sensitive to that | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
and so then I just don't invoice those hours then, I subtract them. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
-Oh! -So it doesn't really cost anybody anything. -Oh, OK. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
The department's babies-at-work scheme has been running for 12 years. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:59 | |
The man who currently oversees it is director, Will Humble. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
-Hi, Will. -Oh, hi, you came. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
I'm Claire, nice to meet you. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
Hi, nice to meet you too, thanks for the opportunity. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
-Hi, nice to meet you. -Thank you for seeing us. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
Hi, come on, have a seat, let's chat for a minute about it. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
Great. Thank you. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
What do you think so far? | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
Well, we've certainly met a couple of the ladies that are doing it | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
and it seems to be working really well. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
Everyone seems to be absolutely loving it, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
and it's a great thing to have in place. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
Sitting in this job, that's my main priority, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
which is to look at the agency as a whole. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
This is a 2 billion a year agency, that's what our revenue stream is, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
and so I look at it like, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
in order to keep this organisation running not just for today | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
but in the long run, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:46 | |
we've got to build the infrastructure of middle managers | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
who are going to be moving into those senior manager positions | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
and we've invested a lot of effort into that middle management team | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
and a lot of them are women in their 30s, and they're having babies, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
and we can't afford to lose them, so to me, it's really a business deal. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
You don't have any reservations in the productivity drop whilst they've got the kids here? | 0:51:04 | 0:51:09 | |
Well, it hasn't been a problem, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
but what we gain is a long-term increase in our productivity, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:16 | |
and we build and continue to reinforce the commitment we have with our employees | 0:51:16 | 0:51:21 | |
which helps us in the long run to retain those critical employees | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
that may have made another choice. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
Most of these women have husbands that have jobs, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
and you know they could probably stay home. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
Just wanted to ask you about something else. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
We're looking at doing it beyond six months. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
I'd say that's brave, but I'm not going to say you can't do it. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
It's all a question of, you know, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:43 | |
can you bring the resources that you need to make it work? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
We're in the public sector, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:48 | |
I don't know if you are public or private sector? | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
-Private. -So that means you can go to somebody | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
that can write a cheque to make it happen. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
Yeah, I would be the guy writing that cheque, and I'm tempted. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
I think the reasons you give for keeping and retaining | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
any member of staff, that's the reason why we're looking at it. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
I mean, it's a good opportunity and it's so easy to do, it really is! | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
-Well, I'll hold you to that! -LAUGHTER | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
Thank you for all your information, | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
we'll go away a little bit more educated on it now on how to do it. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
-Right, well, good luck with the cause. -Thank you. -Bye. -Bye. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
I think it was good to talk to A, a boss, and B, a man, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
because everyone we've spoken so far has been female, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
and they're probably a little bit more child orientated, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
so to hear a guy say it's a good idea and it's got buy in, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
and it's got benefits, I take with a little bit more credibility, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
so that's why it was good to speak to him from my point of view. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
The reality of why he's got the scheme is he keeps the best staff | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
and he retains the people that do the job best for him. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
So that's what you want to do, isn't it? | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
-Keep the best middle management women. -Anyone in mind? -Me! | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
With Liam more reassured about the bottom line, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
he and Claire head to Halcyon Yarns in Maine - | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
a medium sized business with over 80,000 customers. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:15 | |
-Hi, I'm Claire. -Nice to meet you. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
Founded by Halcyon Blake, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:19 | |
it has one of the world's longest running babies-at-work schemes. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
Oh, there's the blue one, good, Frieda, you found it, sweetie. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
Halcyon's own daughter, Gretchen, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
was just two days old when she was first taken to work. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
-Nice to meet you. -The product of this environment. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
-Yeah. -Lucky me. -The first one. -Yeah, I survived. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
She's living proof of the benefits to babies. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
-I don't suppose you can remember it, can you? -Bits and pieces, sure. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
You know I was here from when she was pregnant with me in the store, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:53 | |
my entire childhood and, yeah, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
there's probably things I've blocked out, | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
don't worry, I've forgot the bad stuff. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
But I think on the whole I was really lucky. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
I mean, I'm very grateful | 0:54:03 | 0:54:04 | |
and I think it's probably really shaped how I live now as an adult. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
I suppose what we wonder is does it do anything | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
to indoctrinate you with a sort of work ethic - | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
kids in childcare versus a kid brought in the workplace - | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
does it make a difference? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
Absolutely, and I think one of the things | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
that's really nice about that is | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
I learned not to sort of compartmentalise life versus work, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
so you don't see yourself as I'm at a job and this is what I do there | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
and then I leave | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
and I have my identity and my family and my personal life. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
You don't have to choose between the things that matter to you, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
you can find a way to make them a part of each other. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
In the UK, work and parenting remain largely separate. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:49 | |
The average cost of childcare for each baby under two | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
is more than £5,000 per year. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
And a quarter of women who go on maternity leave | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
don't return to work. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
For employers, this means a significant cost | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
in terms of recruiting and training their replacements. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
It's something both business people and experts in social policy want to address. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:21 | |
The fact is the people are the ones that make the business | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
and, if you want to have the best people, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
you've got to treat them properly. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
And if you're going to treat them properly, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
that includes making sure that you've got family-friendly policies | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
which gives people flexibility | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
and allows them to do what they need to do to support their children. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
As a country, it makes no sense to force families | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
to choose between work and bringing up their children. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
We should enable them to balance work and family life, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
providing the kind of childcare, the flexible work opportunities | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
that enable them both to have careers | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
and to bring up their children. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
At the moment, we force far too many families to give up work | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
because they can't afford to do that and provide for their kids. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
Back at the office, it's decision time. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
Will the company extend the trial for a whole month | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
or abandon it entirely? | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
Liam calls the parents into a meeting. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
Having now seen how it works in America, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
what's your overview of what actually happened and what you saw? | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
I didn't fully appreciate quite how easy... | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
I was the biggest sceptic of anyone when I first... | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
when the idea was first floated, "That's never going to work." | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
Having seen it in place, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:29 | |
it definitely does work, it's just up to what age limit it can work. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
The reaction of the mothers out there | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
and the benefits that came with it | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
were far more significant than I really thought they could be. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
I really think we can do something quite special and unique in the UK | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
and make it work. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:43 | |
We are committed to giving it a trial, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
we are committed to trialling it. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
Without a doubt. One of the things we did see, it does work. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
Having seeing it in place, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:52 | |
we are definitely going to be doing something, at your desk, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
I have no doubt that we will be able to make it work at somebody's desk. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
Addisson Lee are going to extend the trial for an entire month. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
Next time, the company puts their £15 million monthly turnover at risk. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:09 | |
We've had a customer complaint. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
Passenger was expecting a vehicle this morning, important meeting, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
six passengers, car's not arrived. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
More staff are on the verge of pulling out. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
Having both worlds, having Tanisha in my work life in one | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
is kind of slipping away. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
I just didn't expect it to be this hard to do both at the same time. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:34 | |
And the babies aren't the only ones close to tears. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:39 | |
Today, I'm not really achieving my target because Tyler's teething, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
the most he's slept today has been about 15 minutes. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
Yeah, so, it hasn't been that much of a great day. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
But can the scheme convert the sceptics? | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
My name's Kitty Kat. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
In general I've loved having her here, it's been good, good fun. Long may it continue. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
And if you would've seen me at the beginning, I wouldn't have said that. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
And will the boss agree to keep the babies on - permanently? | 0:58:04 | 0:58:08 | |
-Afternoon, everybody. -ALL: Afternoon. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
It's been an interesting experiment, you know, | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
it's not been without its challenges. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:15 | |
Whatever we decide today will affect people's lives for the future. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
It will affect people deciding to have families, so it's not a decision we've taken lightly. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
And the decision is... | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
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