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-Here he comes. -Very smart. -Oh, you look wonderful. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
-Your tie just needs sorted. -Not quite sure with my tie. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
It's early morning at the Lusted family home, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
as 28-year-old James prepares | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
for a very special day. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -So tell me what you're going to do now. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
I'm just about to go and get ready. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
And I think it's just hit me. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
CHURCH BELLS RING | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
I'm having a little bit of a moment here. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
I didn't think I would get that emotional so soon. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
I'm going to go and have a shower now and... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
I've got to wait. Yeah, here we go. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Yeah. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
CHURCH BELLS RING | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
It's a really big day, isn't it, James? | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
It's a massive day and it's just so... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
How am I going to get through this speech? I don't know. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
I just can't believe I'm getting married. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
And it's something that, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
I never really thought I would marry, you know? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
And... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
-VOICE BREAKS: -..I love that Chloe's just accepting me for who I am. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
And...yeah... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
-That's fantastic. -Yeah. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Blackpool, and the last night of panto season. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs has proved as popular as ever, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
and the cast are in high spirits for the final show. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Among them is James Lusted from Rhos-on-Sea. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
James has dwarfism and performs as one of the seven dwarves | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
in a panto somewhere in the UK every winter. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
Bless you, Chloe, Jay. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
Tonight is pretty special for James, as it marks the end of | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
a particularly successful panto season | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
and the beginning of a very exciting year. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Well done, man. Great working with you. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
-JAMES: -'2016, it's the year.' | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
-And it's... -Finally! | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
I think we've put on our social networking sites that, you know, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
2015 was a good year, but the best year is yet to come. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
And we're in it, which is very, very exciting. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Have a good 'un. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
-You, too. -Lovely working with you. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
It's a beautiful guy you've got there. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Panto season is a busy time for actors with dwarfism. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
But James has spent a lifetime hoping that people | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
will see beyond his condition. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
Love you! | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
His mantra for life has always been to see him | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
and not just his height. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
-All right, mate? -Nice one. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
-Thank you. -If you need a tour guide chaining to you on your stag night, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
-give us a ring. -I will do. -I'll find somebody for you. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
And if you need a tour guide chaining to you on your hen night, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
-well, Bob's your uncle. -CHLOE LAUGHS | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
See you later. I don't even know him. See you later. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
We say every day, and I don't think Chloe will mind me saying this, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
but, "Can't we just get married now?" You know? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Remember when we came down here and you put your feet in? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
It's over there. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
Oh, down there, yeah? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
A little pysgod. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:31 | |
Watch your head(!) | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
'Well, we're in Llyn Geirionydd,' | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
and what a beautiful place it is. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
And you were sat there, I came over here... | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
'It's very special to us because | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
'it's where we got engaged.' | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
So, yeah, that's why it's special to me... | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
-Yeah. -..and to us, yeah. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
'We came to Betws-y-Coed for a date night, as we call it. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
'We like to have one of those at least once a week. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
'Jay was particularly quiet' | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
on the way up to the lake, and that's never like him. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
Got to the jetty, I sat down, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
we started chatting. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
And before you know it, he was behind me, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
tapped me on the shoulder, and said, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
"What would you do if I asked you to marry me?" | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
And I sat up, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
turned around, and there he was on one knee. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
I said yes, by the way. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
When we got up here, I was nervous. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
You know, I was nervous. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
I couldn't get the ring out of my pocket at first, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
so I was a bit panicky. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
So I was trying to change the subject, saying, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
"Look at that fish over there in the lake." | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
And there was nothing to be seen. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
Anyway, eventually got the ring out of my pocket | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
and then the deed took place. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Wouldn't mind jumping in there now. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
-Go on, then, off you go. -No. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Much to James' relief, his proposal went well. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
And for most people, getting down on one knee | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
would be the least of their worries. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
But for James, it's not that simple. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
I've always wanted, when I started | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
growing up in my teenage years | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
and wanted to get engaged and think about all marriage | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
and weddings and stuff like that. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
But I always knew that I wanted to get down on one knee, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
no matter what the situation was. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
'I have diastrophic dysplasia, which is a rare form of dwarfism.' | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
And my mobility is not as... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
Well, I'm not as mobile as your average human being, if you like. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
It is hard for me to get down onto the floor. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
I wasn't going to let my condition hold me back. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
There was one way I was going to get on one knee, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
whether it was me pretending to fall and just getting onto one knee. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Anyway, Chloe did something that she never does, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
and that's, she just sat down on the edge of the jetty. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
And I was thinking, "Right, this is it - | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
"this is meant to be." | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
So when she said that I went behind her and tapped her on the shoulder, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
I was actually leaning on her shoulder to get down onto one knee. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-CHLOE LAUGHS -And that's when I asked her. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
And then, of course, Chloe, I just | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
saw mascara coming down her cheek. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
And, yeah, she said yes, and I put the ring on. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
And it was just... | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
it was an incredible feeling, really, when she said yes. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
And just like, "Wow, this is it." | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
-Yeah. -"We're getting married. This is awesome." | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Rhos-on-Sea, home of the Lusted family. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Dawn and Dave and their two sons, Philip and James. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
..like one of the Beatles! | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Dawn and Dave are average height, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
while both Phil and James have dwarfism | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
and stand at a reduced height of | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
3'0" and 3'7" respectively. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Our aim for our boys has been | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
for their independence. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
To be able to do everything that | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
anybody else would be able to do. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
And then we'll test it. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
Tell me when it's switched on and I'll press test. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
And getting married, of course, is part of that, so we are pleased that | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
James and Chloe are getting married, yeah. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
I think, and we knew straight away, that Chloe was the one for James. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
Because we could tell with James that he thought a lot of Chloe | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
and, yeah, she was the one. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
-Yeah. -Definitely, definitely. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
-It's not as warm as the other day. -Yeah. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
He was looking at a website one day - | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Clogau Gold. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
And I said, "What are you doing?" | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
I said, "You're not buying a ring, are you?" | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
And he just smirked. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
And then the next thing, this ring appeared here, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
and I said, "Oh, right, OK." Then, "Don't say anything to anybody." | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
I said, "OK." | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
So I did know about the ring. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
But I wasn't sure when it was going to happen. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
-BEEP -Ready? -Yeah. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
MOTOR WHIRS | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
-DAVE: -I always remember a phone call that Chloe made. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
She said, when I answered it, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
"Jay's just asked me to marry him!" | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
I said, "Oh, very good." | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
Came as a bit of a shock, but very good. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Glass of champagne now. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
James and Chloe are both Christians | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
who have chosen not to live together before marriage. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
And this will be their first home together. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
I'm sure they have. Fingers crossed. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
'Well, we are at our house. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
'Our first house together.' | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
We're so, so excited. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
It's a great place. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
-Oh, yes. -Looking good. -That's better. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
'We've chosen not to move in until after the wedding because | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
'we thought it would be a fresh, new start for both of us. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
'And also because of the beliefs and | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
'the faith we've grown up with. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
'Jay's grown-up in a Christian background. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
'I kind of have as well.' | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
And we just think it's right to wait. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
The heating's on. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
-That's why it's so hot. -The heating? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
We're being charged for that. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
So we have no sex before marriage, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
so I can't wait for the wedding. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Cos we've had a long engagement. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
All right, that's off now. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-Cool. -Hopefully, it'll cool down. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
HE GROANS | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
'The wedding is supposed to finish about 12.30, they say.' | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
But ten o'clock - "Come on, let's go." | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
So, no, yeah, we're really excited about that. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Wedding preparations are gathering momentum. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
And Chloe is keen to try out the make-up | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
she'll be wearing on the big day. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
-Hi. -Hello, how are you. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
All right. You found me OK? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Yeah, it was all right. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
-Got a bit lost, but, eventually. -Aw. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
-In you come. -Thank you. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
-Come through. -OK. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
-Pop yourself down for me. -Thank you. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
So give me a rough idea of what you want. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
-Natural skin tone, natural lip... -Yeah. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
..bold eyes. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
Have you always wanted to get married? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Yeah, I've grown up in the kind of community where... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
..my friends have gotten married around the same age as me, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
so their early 20s. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:14 | |
Did you have your dream wedding planned as a child? | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Never thought about it. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
I was a tomboy when I was little. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
So, like, boys weren't really my priority. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
But I...I'd say when I was | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
15/16, I started thinking about it. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
And any boyfriend I had when I was that age, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
I always thought, "Will I marry him?" | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
And I kind of planned in my head a tiny bit. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
So was it love at first sight? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
No. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
To be honest... | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
because of who Jay is and his condition, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
I never really thought about him in that kind of way. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
But after we'd met up a couple of times, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
and we kept things on the downlow throughout the summer, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
one day, me and my sister and my mum went shopping in Llandrillo. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
And we bumped into Jay | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
on the off-chance. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
You know when you see someone and you get that | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
feeling in your stomach? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
It kind of was then that I thought, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
"Oh, wow, OK, I kind of like him." | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Aw. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Yeah. And I never go shy. Never. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
But I mean, I wasn't... | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
I was lost for words, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
-I guess you could say. -Aw. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
Do you think he'll cry when he sees you? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
He actually said to me today, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
"To be honest, I don't think I'll cry at the church." | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I was like, "Do you want to put money on that?" | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
So as to get the best view of his bride on their big day, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
James asked a friend to help him out. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
'Our really good friend Steve from our church | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
'offered to make us some steps...' | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Perfect. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:04 | |
'..so I could be the same height as Chloe at the wedding ceremony.' | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
-Like this? -No, no. -Why wouldn't we? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
I think...cos you'll walk down the aisle and stand there. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
-Do you think? -So stand there. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
-Yeah. -Like that? -Yeah. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Oh, OK. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
I'm actually taller than you. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
I was about to say that! | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
'Because Chloe is obviously two-foot taller than me...' | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
you know, "You may kiss the bride", she didn't want to bend down, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
I didn't want to, you know? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
So we can have a proper kiss now. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
-"You may kiss the bride." -SHE LAUGHS | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Dave and Dawn were keen to start their own family | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
following their marriage 33 years ago. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
But they had no idea that they were | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
both carrying the dwarfism gene, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
giving them a one-in-four chance of having children with the condition. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
First child Phil's dwarfism came as a complete shock to Dawn and Dave. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
But when James came along, they were prepared. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
When Phil was born, we didn't know that he had | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
anything wrong with him until he was born. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-And it was a big shock, really, wasn't it? -Yeah. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Yeah. When I first saw him, you know, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
I even said then to the paediatrician when I first saw him, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
I was quite prepared to sell the house | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
that we'd got if something was going to... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Needed money to put him right, you know? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
But that just wasn't the case. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
And then, when I was pregnant with James... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
..I went for a scan and I could tell. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
I knew there was something wrong. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
And I said to her, I said, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
"Have you been looking for a problem?" | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
So she said, "Why, am I supposed to be looking for a problem?" | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
I said, "Well, I have got one son that's got dwarfism." | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
"Oh!" I could see the relief on her face, so she went away and she | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
came back with a radiologist, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
and he checked, and they were measuring and everything, and they | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
said, "Yeah, we think that you're having another child with dwarfism." | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
I broke my heart. I did. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
And every time I talk about it, it upsets me. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Once I got that out of my system - I was really upset at the time - | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
once I got it out my system I was fine then. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Cos I knew what was coming. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
James and older brother Phil both live with their parents | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
at the moment, and are used to helping each other around the house. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
A walking board! | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
More recently, Phil has been helping out with the wedding, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
and being a graphic designer, he is taking care of the invitations | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
and the table plan. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
I like this, it really blends in well. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
-Yeah, it looks good like that. -Yeah. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
We've always been there for each other, to help each other out | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
in any way that we could, and still do, and always will. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
Like, James can walk a lot further than I can. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
James can't bend down as far as I can. So we work together as a team. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
Yeah. Even reaching things, cos I am a little bit taller. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
And if not, I can pick Phil up, cos he is so light! | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
-But he couldn't pick me up. -No! I'd be back in hospital! | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
Well, I'll check on the list. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
When they were younger, both James and Phil spent much of their | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
early childhood in hospital, having various operations and treatments. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
I had a cleft palate that needed to be fixed. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
I had all these wires coming out my mouth for a couple of months. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
It didn't look very nice, but it had to be done. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
Operations on my back, my spine. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Among the conditions that needed to be corrected were Phil and James' | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
inward-turning feet, which would make walking almost impossible. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
Phil and I have had club feet. When we were born, we put our feet | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
into casts to straighten them out. But my feet did not always stay... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
They would stay, basically. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
So as I was growing, they kept turning further in. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
So my club feet were coming back and my knees weren't doing good, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
so they were not aligned correctly, and therefore my feet were changing, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
so I walk on the balls of my feet and not flat, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
so hence I have wedges on my shoes. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
In order to give James the best chance of being able to walk, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
he needed his legs straightening, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
which meant wearing metal frames bolted to the bones in his legs. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Dad Dave had the traumatic job of regularly turning the screws | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
so that the bones were gradually pushed into a better shape. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
When one of the boys was in hospital, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
the other one would be staying at my mum's because Dave was working. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
It was hard because I was a long way from home and on my own, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
and having to watch the boys' suffering, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
-and Dave would come up every weekend, wouldn't you? -Yeah. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
But it was hard. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
I had them on for 3½ months. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Originally they said they should be on for six months, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
and I didn't realise how I was going to cope. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
I was only seven, I think, or eight at the time. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
If I hadn't have had those frames, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
I would have walked today very bent over, much more than I am now, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:07 | |
and I probably wouldn't be able to walk, to be honest. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
James and Chloe are keen to start a family after they are married, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
and unlike James' parents, they will do so | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
in the full knowledge that they may well have a child with dwarfism. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
As he has the condition himself, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
James is also a carrier of the dwarfism gene. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
And Chloe may also be a carrier without knowing it. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
If she has the gene, it would give the couple a far higher | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
chance of having a baby with dwarfism. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
I can't wait to have kids. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
Yeah, we've both got that in common. Family's definitely the key, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
I think, the thing that we can't wait to have. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
We don't have any concerns if there was a slight chance of having | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
a baby with Jay's condition. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
I am not even prepared to get tested to see if I have the gene | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
because I think, at the end of the day, if it happens, it happens. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
It won't change my mind about having kids either way. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
We'll love it just the same as any other baby that we have. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
But if, obviously things will be a little bit different | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
if it does have diastrophic dysplasia, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
cos we will have to do the early years in and out of hospital, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
probably, like Phil and I was, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
but that is cool, we're prepared to fight that and go through that. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
It will challenge us together, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
and that is something that Chloe and I have spoken about already, before | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
we even got engaged, cos I think that is an important thing to do. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
It's Chloe's hen weekend, and she will be accompanied to a secret | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
location by her mother, two sisters and an assortment of friends. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
I have no idea what is happening. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
My sisters have planned the whole thing. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
I don't know where I'm going, I don't know what I'm doing. Excited. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
But very nervous, too. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Here we go. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
'I hate surprises. Ask Jay.' | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
I know it's an hour away, and I know it's overnight, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and I don't need my passport, as far as I know, so... Yeah, excited. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:12 | |
The girls have arrived in Manchester at an It's A Knockout event, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
where they will compete against other hen parties. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
Chloe and James met as friends four years ago, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
but it took a while for romance to blossom. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
And Chloe's sisters were two of the first people to meet the new | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
man in Chloe's life. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
We met him through, um, youth, and when he came to church. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
And then she brought him home, but then they were just friends. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
-Oh, yeah, friends(!) -But it wasn't, it was obviously more. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
-It wasn't friends. -And then... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
She kind of, a couple of weeks later, said, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
"Oh, yeah, we're seeing each other." It was a shock, but we love James. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
Yeah. He's a great guy, yeah. We loved him, still do. Still do. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:59 | |
But, yeah, I think it's always going to be a little bit of a surprise, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
with, like, the way he is, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
but it wasn't really that much of a...thing. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
But Chloe's mum Sarah had reservations about the relationship. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
Um, my feelings, when Chloe said about Jay, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
she mentioned him before she even said she was going out with him, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
just to test the waters cos she knows what I'm like. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
And then she told me she was going out with him and... | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
No, I wasn't happy. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
Purely because, to me, it was like, "Chloe, you know, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
"he is a dwarf, you're not suited," and everything else. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
CHEERING | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
But then as I got to know him, it just sort of, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
you look at Jay and you just see Jay, you don't see anything else. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Um, and it wasn't just with him being a dwarf, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
I suppose I am like that with | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
any of my daughters, but that just made it a little bit more harder. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
CHEERING | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
The guys are just going to have a go themselves. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
A bit of encouragement. They are going to have run round the ring. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
James is used to people's varying reactions to his condition. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
But Chloe knew too, that people may well have mixed feelings | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
about her blossoming romance with James. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-No, you need to get the bits out. -I know! | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
Going out and about can be an interesting experience for | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
the couple, as people do tend to look at them, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
sometimes passing comments. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
-But both James and Chloe take it in their stride. -Great chopping, this! | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
-I know, yeah. -Great chopping! | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
We were walking somewhere recently, I think it was Cardiff, Bute Park, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:08 | |
and you had overheard a couple of little girls shout something. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
-Of course, yeah. -I can't remember what they said. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
They were trying to work out if he was a man or a boy. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
And one of the little girls said, "Don't be silly, it's a man!" | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
And it was just funny how they were like two old ladies, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
"No, it's not a man!" "Yes, it IS a man!" | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
You know? It was great. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
-Bon appetit. -Let's enjoy. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
In terms of adults, then, you know, we've had some experiences, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
and, um, which is funny. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
But then some do get taken to heart too much by other people, not us. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
But we're up for a laugh, but go too far, then I might say something. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
But it's very, very rarely that we have had to say anything to anybody. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
-And then honeymoon. -Can't wait for that. -I'm more excited for that! | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Then it will be back to real life. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Married life. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:20 | |
Yeah. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
But before the realities of married life kick in, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
James has his stag weekend to get through. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
And there will be no concessions made for him there. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
To his friends and family, James is just one of the lads. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
Here we are. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
I'm on my stag do in Bristol, organised by Russ. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
We're just having a great time, it's been a fantastic weekend, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
it's great to be with Phil and Dad, and Russ, my best man, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
and some of my best friends here this weekend, it's fantastic. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
-Lloniannau. -Cheers. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
They've been doing all sorts of stuff. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
'This weekend we've just had so much fun, we've had so many laughs.' | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
Oh, you... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
'They've had all sorts of stuff. They've had wax strips, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
'they've waxed my legs and my arms.' | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
'We just had a great time, they even made me wear a Snow White outfit | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
'yesterday when we were out in the town, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
'in the city, which was just great, you know, it was good fun.' | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
This is so politically incorrect right now! | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
'I've always been typecast as a dwarf, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
'but yesterday I was Snow White! | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
'Russ, who I have known for eight years, he's my best man. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
'My best friend as well.' Oh, you... | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
'The story is that Russ and I met at the Beijing 2008 Paralympics, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
'where I was a young advocate for Wales.' | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
I've got his leg. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:01 | |
'And he was my roommate.' | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
Three, two, one, go! | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Hang on! Oh, what are you doing?! | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Forward, left a bit. James... Right a bit! He's the captain of the ship! | 0:27:09 | 0:27:15 | |
Aye! 'It's the 29th of May today, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
'which marks actually the four-year anniversary of the day that I | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
'carried the Olympic Torch for London 2012.' | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
And Russ very kindly nominated me without me knowing. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
It was an incredible day. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
Not just for the reason of carrying the | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
Olympic Torch, but it was also the day that I met Chloe properly. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
I'd seen her around and said hello, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
but I wasn't officially introduced to her until that day, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:52 | |
and that's why we're here this weekend, you know? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
I'm on a stag do because I'm getting married to her. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
And she's my world. I'm so excited. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
Next time on Born Small: The Wedding. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
Squeaky bum time. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
The big moment arrives. Although a little later than planned. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
I just can't believe, I've just realised that I've left the rings | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
at home, on the bedside cabinet. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
CHEERING | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 |