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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:01 | 0:00:04 | |
I had no information at all about where my mum went. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
You don't know who you are, where have you come from. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
..finding them can take a lifetime. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
I might have a brother that's | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
still living here. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Especially when they could be anywhere, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
at home or abroad. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
And that's where the Family Finders come in. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
From international organisations... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
For someone to say that it's changed their life, it makes coming to work, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
you know, really, really special. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands... | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
It's a matter of how much effort you really want to put into it, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
how badly you want to solve the problem. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
..they hunt through history to bring families back together again. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Finding new family is wonderful. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the Family Finders. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Suddenly, you get one spark of breakthrough and there they are. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
Learning the tricks they use | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
to track missing relatives through time. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
I didn't think I'd ever find my sisters, but I have. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
And meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
I've been waiting to meet John my whole life. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Since we've met, I feel part of a family again. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
You just completed my life for me. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Many families get torn apart and it can take years of detective work to | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
find out why. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Often financial difficulties can lead to relatives being | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
separated. Sometimes ill health gets in the way, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
and occasionally it's the | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
sheer volume of offspring that can lead to desperate measures. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Today, we follow two such cases. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Tony Robinson who found out late in life that he had siblings he never | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
knew existed. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
And then she dropped a bombshell on me. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
She said, "What about Ian?" | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
and I might have used the words I said but along the lines of, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
"Who's Ian?" She said, "Well, the other one that we had adopted." | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
I said, "What other one?" | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
And Lorraine Hall who grew up | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
believing she was a legitimate only child | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
until the funeral of a family friend revealed the shocking truth. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
And I remember saying, "No, no." | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
And she said, "Get in the car. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
She was your mother." | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
Tony Robinson was born in 1953 and was brought up in Carshalton, Surrey | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
by his parents, Shirley and Raymond Robinson. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Growing up, there's meself, me sister Linda, me sister Carol, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
me sister Diane, me brother Michael and then me sister Marion. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
That was the family. I shared a bedroom with me brother Michael, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
bunk beds. And me four sisters lived in a room. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
A great upbringing, just lower class, not a lot of money. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
There were six of us living in a three-bedroom house. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
And whenever I could, I did paper rounds, milk rounds, bakers' rounds, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
butchers' rounds. Worked in shops just because you couldn't get pocket | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
money. I just had to earn me own money. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
When he was 12, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
a childhood illness resulted in Tony being sent away to what was known as | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
an open air school in the countryside to recuperate. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
I was asthmatic so I was sent away to this health school | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
down in Guildford. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
And I was there for a couple of years. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
'65 to '67 and I was boarding there. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
You know, so, I had a great time down there, though. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Originally developed for the treatment of children | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
with tuberculosis, by the 1960s, open air schools | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
were caring for children like Tony with a whole range of | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
respiratory conditions. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Before the Clean Air Act was revised in 1968, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
heavy smog was responsible for regular deaths | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
from high levels of sulphur dioxide | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
and those with chest or heart problems were particularly | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
vulnerable. Many children were sent away from our cities to escape | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
pollution. Fresh air, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
better nutrition and exercise made up the therapeutic regime. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
It was during the two years that Tony was boarding | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
at the open air school | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
that his parents had to make a heartbreaking decision. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
I can remember once being about 10 or 11, that sort of age, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
in the back garden. I can remember me mum and dad coming out to say, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
"We've had a boy named Stephen. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
"We've had to have him adopted." | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
But at that age, I didn't know what adopted meant. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
I had no idea. And it was never discussed afterwards, ever. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Till the day me dad died and me mum was upset about it. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
The fact that it was never brought up in conversation all those years | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
later, it just, it just went out of your mind. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
Following the death of his parents decades later, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
a chance discovery set off an incredible chain of events. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
When me mum died it was down to me. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
So, I came down, spent a few days down here sorting out paperwork. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
And I came across this Christmas card and a photo | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
and a letter from West Sussex Adoption Agency, so I thought, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
"Well, what's all this about?" When I saw the name Stephen, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
I put two and two together. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
I suddenly remembered who Stephen was. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Just a flashback of being told about 10 or 11 that they had a boy named | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
Stephen adopted. So that really set me thinking, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
"Oh, what's this all about?" | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
And that was the chain of events for me... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
..going on this trail of trying to discover who, what, where, how, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
who Stephen was. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Emboldened by a sense of responsibility, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Tony made the decision to try to find his estranged, younger brother. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
At that time, all I knew was Stephen. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
You know, so there was a seventh sibling out there somewhere | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
and I needed to find him to bring him into the fold. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
There were still six of us still around | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
so we needed to find that seventh person. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Tony's first move in tracking Stephen down | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
was to contact the adoption agency listed on the paperwork. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
Well, the first thing I did was I rang West Sussex adoption. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
There was a phone number on there so I rang them, explained the scenario | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
about me mum and all that. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
But they wouldn't give me any information because... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
They just wouldn't. You know, they wouldn't confirm it. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
They wouldn't deny it. I had a copy of a letter, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
that was all... They said, "Sorry, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
"we just cannot give that information away." | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Tony's attention now turned to the mysterious label | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
on the back of one of the envelopes. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
It then got me back to this address that I found on the | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
back of the Christmas card and there was no name. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
So I'm assuming it was Stephen. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
So what I did was, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
we wrote a letter saying who we were, what we're doing, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
why we're trying to do what we're doing | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
and we sent it to that address and | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
after about a month, we never got a reply back. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
And we thought, "Well, what can we do now?" | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
The next step was to trawl through phone directories in an attempt to | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
match a name to an address to find a contact number. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
We found addresses that we thought matched the address | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
and wrote to them first and got no reply back | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
so we then started looking for a phone number. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
We did find a phone number, rang it up and it wasn't... | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
It was the right phone number but the wrong person. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
They didn't live there any more but they did have a number. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
I explained the story of what we're trying to do | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
and because they're a bit hesitant, you know, it could be anybody. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
You know, she said, "Look, OK, so give us a couple of days." | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
I gave her my number and, blow me, I got a phone call back. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
We spoke to Jenny, which was Stephen's ex-wife at that time, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
and she just went mental in the nicest possible way | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
that you could think of. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
She was screaming and jumping up and down. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
She said, "Do you realise how long he's been looking for you?" | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
I said, "I have no idea. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
"I've only just found out." | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
You know, if it hadn't been... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
I had no idea how many times he tried to contact her. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Excuse me. I'm just going to be emotional now. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
And it was just that moment, really. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
She said, "I'm going to have to ring him." | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Within the hour, Tony found himself on the phone | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
to the brother he'd never known. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
And he said, "Hi, Tony. This is your brother, Stephen." | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
And I just gave the phone to me wife. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
I just couldn't take it in for a few minutes. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
You know, she was chatting to him as if he'd known her all his life. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
You know, then I had to come back and compose meself and then we just | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
spoke for hours and hours about all sorts of things. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
What struck me immediately was there was no animosity. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
He was so pleased to find his siblings, you know, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
he didn't know how many of us there were. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
When I told him he said, "What, how many?" | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
You know, he had no idea there was another five of us on top of me. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
He had no idea. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
They wasted no time in setting up a meeting. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Stephen lives in Horsham and I lived up in County Durham. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
We were a long way apart from each other, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
so it isn't very glamorous but we decided to meet | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
at Peterborough services. When I pulled into the car park | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
I had no idea what he was looking like, what he was wearing. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
And then I saw this lad sitting and he had the car door open | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
and he was sitting, and I said, "There's Stephen." | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
I just said, "There's Stephen." | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
You know, and we met in the car park, believe it or not. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Then sort of shook hands and said, "Hello, bruv" and all that. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Then we said, "We're going to have a coffee", | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
then we went inside and was there for hours and hours just going over, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
just chatting, really. It was a good day. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
I rang me wife up afterwards, my wife, Sharon, and I said, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
"I've had a fantastic afternoon," you know, you know, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
"there's a three-hour drive home but hey, it was worth it." | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
Following an emotional reunion, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Tony couldn't wait to tell his other siblings all about their long-lost | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
brother who he'd finally managed to track down and meet at last, but the | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
story didn't end there. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
Obviously, I spoke to all me sisters individually and all fantastic and | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
over the moon about it. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
They couldn't believe it. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
It was such a short time that I found him and | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
then I was speaking to me younger sister, Marion, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and she was obviously elated and ecstatic | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
and then she dropped a bombshell on me. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
She said, "Fantastic news." | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
She said, "What about Ian?" | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
And I might have used the words I said but along the lines of, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
"Who's Ian?" She said, "Well, the other one that we had adopted." | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
I said, "What other one?" And she said, "You must've known?" | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
I said, "No, I know nothing about Ian at all." | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
I just didn't know. I knew nothing. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Having just found one missing brother, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Tony was about to start searching all over again. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Not knowing he existed for all those years and then finding out he did | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
exist, it's... Every emotion you could possibly think of is there. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
And more. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
Lorraine Hall was born in 1964 | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
and raised in Birmingham as the only child of Pat and Ray Edwards. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
I was brought up believing that Pat and Ray were my natural parents. | 0:10:54 | 0:11:01 | |
I had no reason to doubt that. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Growing up, Lorraine spent lots of time with a family friend, Sylvia, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
who lived nearby with her 11 children. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Sylvia was known to me as Pat's friend. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
We used to go and have visits | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
and I used to go and play with Sylvia's children. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
And Pat used to spend quite a bit of time with Sylvia. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
To me, they was good friends. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
And they was confidants as well. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
But when Lorraine was 15, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
Sylvia died and a huge family secret was dramatically unveiled at the | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
funeral, attended by Lorraine and her parents. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
I remember being asked, when the children | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
were getting into the main family car, to join them. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
And Pat came to me and she pointed and she directed me to get into the | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
family front car and I said, "No. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
"No, I can't." | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
And Pat was quite forceful. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
I remember her putting her hands on my shoulders and saying to me, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
"Come on, now, get in the car." | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
And I remember standing up to Pat which I didn't do very often, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
but I remember saying, "No. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
"No." And she said, "Get in the car. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
"She was your mother." | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
After 15 years of believing she was the only child of Pat and Ray, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
Lorraine was stunned by the shock revelation | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
that Sylvia was, in fact, her biological mother. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
I remember being embarrassed. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
I remember being totally lost. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
I remember... | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
..just putting my head down. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
I just remember holding my head down in shame. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Not, not being able to breathe. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
Not being able to remember anything. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
In a heartbeat, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
Lorraine discovered not only that her mother | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
wasn't who she thought she was, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
but that the childhood friends she'd grown up playing with were | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
actually her brothers and sisters. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Knowing that | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
I am one of 12 children, and been brought up an only child... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
I, I... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Words, sometimes... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
The truth behind why Lorraine was the only child | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
not to be raised by her birth mother remained a mystery | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
and as quickly as Lorraine had discovered | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
she had siblings, she lost them again. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Until her death at the age of 46, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
11 of Sylvia's 12 children had been in her care | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
but following the funeral, the children were split up. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
The eldest left home, some went into care, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
and the youngest moved away from the area with their father. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
The biggest thing for me at the time, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
and it's something I struggled all my life with, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
was the untruths. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
Maybe Pat or Ray or both of them | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
could have sat me down and told me the truth, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
that Sylvia was my birth mother. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
Everything I'd grown up to believe was a lie. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Lorraine went on to leave home, get married | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
and raise a family of her own. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
But questions about the whereabouts of her brothers and sisters and what | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
had become of them plagued her. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
All my life... | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I was always wondering where my siblings were. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
Didn't know what country they was in, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
didn't know what city they was in. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Hoping, longing one day to be able to walk down the street to see them. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:48 | |
Lorraine began trawling genealogy websites for any trace | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
of Sylvia's 11 children. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
I really felt that I, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
maybe I needed to put down on paper the family tree | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
as I knew it because I felt that when my grandson was born, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:10 | |
I needed maybe to do something | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
so my daughter would have answers readily available. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
That many times it came up blank. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
I was searching and I still could not get nowhere | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
and then this one day out of the blue... | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
I had a match that popped up and it was a proper match | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
and it matched the age, it matched the information | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
I'd already discovered. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:38 | |
It matched local location in Birmingham | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
and I thought, maybe this could be it. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
But when Lorraine tried to access the details of the family tree, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
she found it was a locked, private profile and to be granted access, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
she would have to write to the administrator and introduce herself. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
I didn't know if anyone in my family knew I existed. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
I didn't know if they even knew that Sylvia had me. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
So it took me more, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
another couple of days and I composed a message | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
saying that Sylvia was my mother. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
The administrator passed Lorraine's e-mail on | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
and a week later came a reply. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
When I saw the name popped up that I had an e-mail, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
every emotion you could ever imagine. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
I was happy, I couldn't believe it. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
I was scared. For the worries and woes and rejection. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Maybe they don't want to know. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Maybe they don't want to be part of your life. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
All Lorraine could do now was to sit back and wait to find out if these | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
really were the siblings she was so desperate to find. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
-Do you recognise that? -Yeah. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
-I don't. -It's Mum's purse. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
Mum's purse. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
In Surrey, Tony Robinson had successfully tracked down | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
his brother, Stephen, who had been adopted as a baby | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
but his sense of achievement was short-lived | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
when his sister dropped a bombshell. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
While Tony had been away at boarding school, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
there had been another baby boy also adopted out of the family. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
My sisters assumed that I knew that Ian had been born. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
I was away. I was away from home. I knew nothing about it. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
They just assumed I knew and it was just never...like Stephen, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
it was never discussed. But I knew nothing. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
With the small amount of information his sisters had given him, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Tony began looking for his second brother. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
His first port of call was the Family Records Centre. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
So I went through the records and found Ian Robinson | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
on the 5th or the 6th of December 1967. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
So I found his birth certificate. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Having uncovered his brother's full name and a date of birth, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Tony's next step was to visit his local adoption agency | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
to try and find a current contact detail for Ian. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
They said they would do what they could | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
and they came back after a meeting | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
and they said, "We've done some digging for you, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
"we've discovered he's changed his name. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
"But we're not allowed to tell you what his name is." | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
So, I wasn't happy. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
And I said, "Well, how the hell am I going to find him?" | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
He said, "It's down to him." | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
"If he wants to find you, he'll find you." | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
It looked like Tony's search had hit a brick wall. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
I was going through every emotion possible - elation, frustration. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:36 | |
But little did Tony know | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
he wasn't the only one who was looking for a lost brother. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
I was sitting on me laptop just using social media. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
It was about 11, 11:30 at night, just before going to bed, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
just catching up on things and I saw this message appear. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
And I read it, and I thought, "What's this all about?" | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
It was a name that I never knew. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Wasn't friends with anybody. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
And his name suddenly appeared. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
And it was saying along the lines of, "Hi, my name is Martin. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
"I've been told from an early age I've been adopted, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
"and my family name was Robinson. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
"My parents was this name and that name. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
"I've got my siblings with all the names." | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
He said, "I'm just trying to find out if you're my older brother." | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
It turned out that Ian had changed his name to Martin | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
some years earlier. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
Tony had found his second missing brother | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
or rather, his little brother had found him. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
A flurry of e-mails followed. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
It was emotional even though we were on the end of a phone, it was still, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
like, "I'm talking to me brother", | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
you know, this is someone I know absolutely nothing about | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
but it was my brother. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
You don't know what to say. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
You know, there's a million questions you want to ask | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
but you don't have enough time to ask a million questions. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
There was something like a little bond straightaway | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
between me and Tony. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
It was like we did actually, kind of, know each other | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
whereas we hadn't spoken to each other. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
We didn't really know too much detail about each other. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
There was that little connection between us. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
And during the course of that week, I spoke to him | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
every day for hours and hours, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
just talking about everything and nothing. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
Just to hear his voice. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Martin had been adopted when he was seven months old. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
I always knew I was adopted from a very early age. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
I always knew that my name was Ian Robinson | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
and I was the youngest of eight. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
And I originally came from the Carshalton area. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
That was all that I knew. But my mum never kept anything from me. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
I remember her saying that if you want to know anything, let me know. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
But obviously, at that time, I had a family and I didn't have the... | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
any interest at that time for looking for the real family. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
Only really when me mum passed away that... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
..there was a... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
a stirring, shall we say. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
I think, because, out of respect, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
when my parents were still alive, they were my parents. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
But when his mum died she left him some paperwork and it contained some | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
intriguing information. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
It's basically a history of my family | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
that was given to my mum and dad when I was adopted. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
It tells me the years that me brothers and sisters were born in, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
the fact that there was three boys, four girls. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
It gave me a lot more detail than what I actually had. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
It also hints as to why I was adopted | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
and it also explains in it as well that | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
the next one above me, Stephen, was also adopted. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
It was a little bit of a shock to actually read it, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
to find out reasons why but it says in here, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
my mother feels the strain of coping with such a large family | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
on limited income. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
So straightaway you can tell that it was financial. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
It explains that what happened with Stephen | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
also happened with me for the same reasons. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Martin decided to apply to the authorities | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
for details of his birth family. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Done it online and made the application. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
And put a request in for the adoption papers and family records. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:29 | |
All in all, I think it took about eight months. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
After a lifetime of separation, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
and many months of searching for each other, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
the brothers got in touch and arranged to meet. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
The elation of seeing him for the first time... | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
It was a hug. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
And I'm not normally a hugger. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
It was a hug, a few tears. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
Because it made the family complete. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Tears were flowing from both sides and we got on great. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
We actually got on like | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
we knew each other. We weren't complete strangers. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
We were laughing moments after we had stopped crying. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
Today, Martin, Ian and another of his new-found siblings, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Diane, are meeting up. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
Their other adopted brother Stephen would have loved to have joined them | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
but his daughter is about to have a baby any day. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
The first coincidence they've discovered | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
is that Martin used to live on the same estate | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
that his sister, Diane, still lives on today. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
I mean, I lived on the estate for about 12 years and to think that my | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
sister's actually lived on the estate at the same time. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
It's so weird that we never actually bumped into each other. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
Then again, I wouldn't have known anything about them, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
so I wouldn't have known what they looked like | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
or any sort of family resemblance, but | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
it's nice to actually go back onto the estate and actually | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
get a few memories back. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
-Are you nervous? -Yeah. -Are you? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
-Hiya, bro. -Hiya. -Come on in. -How are you? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
-Long time no see. -I know, it's good, isn't it, to see you again? | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
-How you doing, young man? Nice to see you. -All right. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Nice to see you again. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
With over 40 years of family life to catch up on, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
the siblings are keen to fill each other in | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
on the time they were apart. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:38 | |
And they're starting by swapping some treasured family snaps. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Now that is the earliest one that I've actually got of myself. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
-Now... -Pick you out. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
..pick me out and that. Yeah, there's a football team at school. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
-It's that one. -Yeah. -You're the goalkeeper. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
-The goalkeeper. -Obviously runs in the family, then. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
I was a goalkeeper. Smallest player there, but I was a goalkeeper. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Same here. I'm virtually the smallest one there. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
All right, now, these ones are the ones with the funny hairstyle. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
-Oh, go on, then. -Go on, shock us. -I can't wait. -Yeah. -Oh, my God. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
-I had a nice relaxing time in Austria. -Is that you? -Yeah. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
-He's posing. -Is that really you? -You can see it's him, yeah. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
You can tell he's a Robinson. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
-That there. -Oh, that's old. -It is. -They're really old. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
That is us all on holiday at Butlins. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
But that's Nan and grandad, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
and I don't even remember them being on holiday with us. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
-That's Dad's mum and dad. -All right. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
And, obviously, Dad must have taken the picture. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
We all had long hair and before we went away Dad made us all wear short | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
-back and sides. -You know, the old pudding-basin. -Yeah, I remember. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
I cried my eyes out. I really did. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
That's Mum on her own. I assume it must be the same setting, is it? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-Yeah. -That's Butlins, isn't it? Sitting on her... -Yeah. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
-Dad always does that pose, doesn't he? -Yeah, he's a bit of a poser. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Yeah. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
That's the little 'un, that's her, sitting on one of the toy cars. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
-With Noddy. -Still can't drive, can you? -No. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
No idea where that would be. Would that be, like, a Christmas thing | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
or something? One of those... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
-I would imagine. We used to do them, didn't we? -We used to | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
-have big family gatherings and things. -Parties, things like that. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
Now that I'm actually seeing some of the pictures, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
I can actually get the feel of what it was like as a Robinson family. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
And I do actually regret not being part of it, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
but, obviously, that wasn't my choice at the time. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
But it's still all a blur to me | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
because I just really can't remember that far back. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
And it must have been difficult for them. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
-Yeah. -To make that decision in the first place. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
There's so much that | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
-I still don't know about. -Of course you don't. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
And obviously, not being involved, there's so much, like, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
history that you've got, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
but it's nice, it's really nice, to see the pictures. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
-I'm glad you're with us now. -Oh, yeah, definitely. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
And they're all looking forward to yet another new addition | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
to the family. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
-I haven't heard from Stephen. He's not a grandad yet. -No? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
I'm still waiting. I said, it don't matter if it's one | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
in the afternoon, or three in the morning, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
-you need to let me know straightaway. -Is he excited? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
Extremely. Yeah, he's like a cat on a hot tin roof at the moment. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
-Yeah. -He's really excited. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Martin's keen to see how the estate has changed since he lived there | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
in the '80s. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
And who better to show him around than long-time resident Diane. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
So how far down would it have gone, then? Right up to the end. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Right to the very end. To this road here. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
-We've ended here... -Yeah. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
..and then got to where those houses are right down there. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-Oh, blimey. -Right, got a picture of it, look. -Oh, wow. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Obviously, this is where it is, this is the old building. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
The original building? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:38 | |
-This is the original. -Can you see | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
-your flat on there? -I reckon probably around there. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
-There. -Yeah. -Right. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
What a difference though, isn't it? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
No, because that wall there would be just up there. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
To look at it now you think, "Oh, my God. I lived there." | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Yeah, I know. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:54 | |
-For 12 years. -For 12 years, yeah. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
-Yeah, I know. -I mean, I first come here, it was '88, I think, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
middle of '88. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Bearing in mind you're only, like, literally, a two-minute walk away. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Yeah, it's just funny how close we were. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
It's frightening, innit? It's very frightening. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
'Finding out that' | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
I lived on the same estate as three of the sisters | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
and with Diane as well. I was here for 12 years. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
She's here for, like, 30-odd years. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
To be so close and not even know about each other... | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
..that was a really weird feeling. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
It's just changed so much, hasn't it? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
I know. I couldn't believe it when I first come down. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
'You can't put' | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
how important it was to get the family back as a complete family. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
There's just no way of expressing that. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Not knowing he existed for all those years and then finding out he did | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
exist, and then, and now he's in the fold, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
it's difficult to put into words. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
It's... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
It's every emotion you could possibly think of is there. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
And more. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
This was actually something that I never expected was going to happen | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
because I had my own family and so this was the last thing on my mind. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:06 | |
But now it's happened, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
it's nice because they're so welcoming | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
and I feel as though that I've been | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
part of the family for a lot longer than I actually have. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
So, it's definitely something that's an added bonus | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
and it's going to continue. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Now Martin has come back into our lives, we will never let him go. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
He's part of our family. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
Always will be. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
It had to become my mission in life to somehow get us all together as a | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
family. That was it. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
It just has to be. You know, and now it's happened, it's, well, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
we're just starting out again now and | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
we just can't wait to keep it going. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
In Birmingham, Lorraine Hall was trying to track down siblings | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
years after the shock discovery, at 15, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
that the woman she thought was a family friend | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
was actually her biological mother. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
Missing out on possibly the life I could have had | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
compared to the one that I did, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
not being at any weddings... | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
..having 38, 39 years missed Christmases. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
It's all them moments that I lost, all them years where I felt alone. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
When a family finding website threw up a match, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Lorraine contacted the genealogist involved. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
It turned out that he had been researching the family | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
for his friend who lived 300 miles away in Scotland. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
Her name was Donna, and she was one of Sylvia's daughters. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
Lorraine had found one of the 11 siblings she'd been searching for. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
Very happy to send her an e-mail. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
And she took a couple of days to reply back. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
I think she was so, sort of, shocked. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Donna was the youngest of Sylvia's children. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
I was born in 1975 in Birmingham, the last of well, at the time, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:10 | |
there were only 11 children that my mum had. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
Knew about or knew of my half brothers and sisters | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
cos two or three of them, sort of, lived with us, on and off, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
in the first sort of few years. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
After Sylvia died, Donna's father took her, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
her sister and her brother to live in Great Yarmouth | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
and they lost touch with the rest of the family. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
I don't know what happened. We just lost touch and I think, you know, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
the Christmas cards eventually stopped, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
and that's sadly what happened. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
The communication line faded away. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
Then, years later, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
a health scare prompted Donna to pick up the search. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
I'd had breast cancer at 26 and | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
we went to the family history clinic and, of course, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
they were interested to know, well, let's have a look at your, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
you know, maternal side and see if it's genetic from that. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
I then had to try and remember their details that would be nice to find | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
and even to warn them. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
Certainly if the cancer was genetic from Mum's side. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
Donna's diagnosis now gave extra impetus | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
to her search to trace her relatives. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
I can remember trawling through the Friends Reunited school | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
list trying to sort of have a rough guess. OK, well, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
they would have gone to school. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
I know roughly where we lived so they would have gone to school | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
around there. They, you know... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
but going through and then no names were obviously coming up. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Struggling, Donna turned to a friend, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
an amateur genealogist for help and he began to build | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
an online family tree for her. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
My friend had put on one of the forums | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
looking for information about my mum and her husband. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
Lorraine had seen that. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
I think her heart must have skipped a beat and she went, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
"That's my mum." | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
Lorraine and Donna were soon exchanging a flood of e-mails. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
"Sorry it's taken a few days to reply, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
"to be honest, I did not know where to start. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
"I suppose I've been in shock. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
"Having this contact has always been my secret ambition. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
"And a dream. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
"And I longed deep down but I thought it would never happen. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
"I knew that you'd all moved away | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
"but I was not sure who with, and where to. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:36 | |
"No-one told me. And to be honest, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
"I've never known where to start looking. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
"I'm so looking forward to hearing back from you. Thank you." | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
The sisters arrange to meet. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
So we met up eventually at... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
after Christmas in Chesterfield. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
I got there. I was on the steps early. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
I'm always late, but for that I was early. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
I was standing there. I was looking around. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Couldn't see no one. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Everyone that was walking by, I was hoping, praying it was them. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:16 | |
And then all of a sudden, I saw this little person... | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
..and straight away, looking into her eyes, I could see it was Donna. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
It was like meeting a very old friend for the fir... | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
you know, again after a number of years | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
when you haven't got to see them. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:31 | |
I just remember walking round with this silly grin on my face watching | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
every movement, watching her walking around. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Lorraine and I are almost so similar, you know, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
in our outlook and the way that we view the world, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
it's quite frightening, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
at the same time to, you know, and that's why you think, God, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
it is weird. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
But the story didn't end there. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
Donna's research was homing in on another of the siblings. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
An older sister called Belinda. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
I think I might have found Belinda through finding her ex-husband's | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
account first. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:13 | |
It's a bit convoluted way round it but there, again, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
then looking and going, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
"Is that them?" And then, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
you go back and have a look at the family photos | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
and think, "Yeah, it is." | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Donna sent a message and waited for a reply. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
I sent a message back straightaway, "Yes, it's me." | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
It's Belinda. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Yeah, it's me. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
So, I thought, "God, Donna's found me." | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
How bizarre is that? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Donna passed Belinda's details onto Lorraine and once in touch, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
they quickly made an astonishing discovery. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
Belinda and me had been living less than a mile apart since I had moved | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
back to Birmingham three years previously. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
Maybe we had walked past each other on the street. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
Maybe we had been in the same supermarket queue. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
Belinda was born in 1961. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Sylvia's sixth child. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:18 | |
Living at home was a bit of an ordeal. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
I was mainly left to look after the children. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
Get them up in the morning, get them ready for school. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Eventually, stress of home life proved too much for Belinda | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
and she moved out at 14, leaving her half sister, baby Donna behind. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
The day it all kicked off and | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
I ran away from home and Donna was there and we had an afternoon where | 0:36:47 | 0:36:55 | |
Donna was just sat on my lap, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
didn't leave me alone and then when I had to go... | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
..she wouldn't let go. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
She screamed and screamed and screamed. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
And that was heartbreaking to leave. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
I really didn't want to leave her but I thought, "I've got to go now." | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
After Sylvia's death, when the family dispersed, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
Belinda lost touch with all the siblings | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
until the moment Donna tracked her down but it was Lorraine | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
who was the first to actually meet her older sister. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
She said, "Shall we meet? Can we meet? Can we meet?" | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
I said, "Yeah, yeah, fine. No problem." | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
I saw her standing there and I thought... | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
The emotions, it was, like, whoa. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
Wow, that's my sister. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
So I broke into a run and we had a massive hug and we were crying and, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
like, "Oh, my God." | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
I just fell into her arms. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
I think we stood there for about five, ten minutes, just hugging. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
It had been so long. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
It had been over 40-odd years since I'd seen Belinda. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
And there's so many coincidences | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
with Lorraine. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
She only lives down the road from me. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
We'd been so close and yet so far. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
Today is a special day. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Separated for decades, Donna is on her way | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
to meet the older sisters she's missed out on for so many years. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
This morning, we're actually heading to Belinda's house, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
which is the first time I've | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
been there, actually, so to meet her and Lorraine. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
So quite excited about that, actually. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
I think last time was a bit too, a bit too short, really, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
to have a proper catch-up | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
so it'll be nice to have a bit longer with them. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
It's been a long time coming. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Very long time. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:44 | |
She'll be here in a minute. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
I know. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
I had a secret ambition that one day I'd walk into a room and... | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
..my siblings would be there. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:00 | |
I always dreamed of that. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
Never realising and never thinking it would ever happen. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
And here I am. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:12 | |
-Hiya. -Hiya. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:16 | |
Growing up in different households meant that the sisters missed out on | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
each other's childhoods so today they've brought along some photos. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
That's me. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
So you do look like me there, don't you? | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
-Oh, wow. -Oh, look. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And Donna has something that holds sentimental value for all of them. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
I've got one other thing that I've bought down that I thought would be | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
interesting to show you. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
-What's that? -Do you recognise that? | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
-Yeah. -I don't. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:54 | |
It was Mum's purse. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
-Mum's purse. -I've had it for years. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Along with the purse, Donna's brought along | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
their mother's favourite pieces of jewellery which she inherited. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
Wow. I haven't seen that in absolutely years. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:11 | |
How long has it been since you've seen these, then? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Obviously must be 35 years or more. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
More than that. More than that. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
Do you want any of them? | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
-Could I have that? -Of course you can. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
-You're more than welcome to it. -Thank you. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
You'll actually have something of Mum's. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Thank you for that. I will treasure that. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
I will. It's the only thing I've got of my mum's. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
-Have you not got anything? -No. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
Nothing. That is really nice, to have something of my mum. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
It's just so nice that you're both here. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
It's lovely to see you again. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:51 | |
Yeah. It's perfect. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:55 | |
Perfect. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
The sisters have planned a trip to the local crematorium where their | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
mother's funeral was held all those years ago. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Here, Sylvia's name has been entered into the book of remembrance. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
-Almost there. -Almost there. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
-Are you OK? -Yeah, yeah, it's just sad, isn't it? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
It is sad. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
The three of us here today has meant so much. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
It's kind of closure, in a way, for me. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
It's... I think today's closure. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-What I needed. -Closure and reopening the next chapter. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
All three sisters are now in regular contact and for the first time, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:05 | |
Lorraine has the family she's always craved. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
It's been fantastic having them back, as I say, though, you know, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
I wouldn't have it any other way and, you know, we've still got 30, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
40 years to make up for. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:18 | |
Today has been such an emotional journey. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
It's been something | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
I've waited a very long time for and to share it today with my sisters... | 0:42:26 | 0:42:32 | |
I think it will change me. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
The three of us back together was absolutely wonderful. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
I thoroughly... | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
It's been a pleasure to see them again. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
And to enjoy each other's company. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
I can't wait for the next time. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 |