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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I had no information at all about where my mum went. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
You don't know who you are, where you've come from. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
..finding them can take a lifetime... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
I might have a brother that's still living here. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
..especially when they could be anywhere, at home or abroad. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
And that's where the Family Finders come in. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
From international organisations... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
For someone to say that it's changed their life, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
it makes coming to work, you know, really, really special. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands... | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
It's a matter of how much effort do you really want to put into it, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
how badly you want to solve the problem. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
..they hunt through history to bring families back together again. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Finding new family is wonderful. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the Family Finders... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Suddenly, you get that one spark of breakthrough and there they are. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
..learning the tricks they use | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
to track missing relatives through time... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
No, I didn't think I would ever find sisters, but I have. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
I've been waiting to meet John my whole life. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Since we've met, I feel part of a family again. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
You just completed my life for me. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Every year, thousands of people in the UK | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
begin looking for long-lost family members. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
No two searches are ever quite the same. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
Sometimes, a search will throw up unexpected results | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
and often, it takes something unexpected to happen | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
in order for a search to succeed. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Today, we follow a hunt for long-lost siblings | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
that had all but failed | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
until a chance conversation changed everything. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
She said, "Tess, I need to talk to you." | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
And I thought, "Whatever has happened?" | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
She said, "I think I know your half-sister." | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
And we meet the man who, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
while searching for records of his mother, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
discovered something that would change his life forever. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
I stood behind him and I just tapped him on the shoulder | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
and I said to him, "Where have you been all my life?" | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Tessa Dulman and her sister, Jan, live in the West Country. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Along with their brother, Cecil, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
they were raised in Bath and Somerset | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
by William Hart, a violinist, and their mother, Paulina. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
Well, I was born in 1940, the beginning of the war. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-Tess was born... -1945. -1945. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
They grew up in a warm and loving household, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
but their contented childhood was shattered | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
when their beloved father's health suddenly deteriorated. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
When I was about nine, he got very ill, I remember. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
-One day, we drove him to Frenchay Hospital. -I was... | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
15, I think, and that was a shock because he was at home | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
and then three days later, he was dead. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
Terribly sad when Daddy died and I can remember it, you know, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
vividly. And Mummy really had to work very hard after that. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
She was a secretary and I think times were quite tough | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
and she was extremely good to us. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
The sudden death of their father from cancer rocked | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
the sisters' lives and there was more shocking news to come. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
A good friend of mine said to me, like a bombshell, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
"Did you know your mum and dad were divorced?" | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
And I said, "That's rubbish." | 0:03:37 | 0:03:38 | |
She said, "No, they were. They were divorced." | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
I found it strange that they were divorced | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
but living together in the same house. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
But I accepted it cos you do accept things. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
But that wasn't the only revelation about their father | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
that came to light. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
My mother said to me, "You actually have a half-brother | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
"and sister, twins," which I was completely amazed. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
It sort of stuck in my mind and it was really never mentioned again. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
Tessa and Jan's parents were still living | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
together despite being divorced. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
At the same time, their father was having a relationship with | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
a fellow musician called Rosemary. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
She was to bear him a twin son and daughter, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
babies he would never meet due to his untimely death. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
It came to my mind a lot about my half-brother and sister, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
but with my mother, obviously still alive, there was | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
no way I would want to, you know, go any further. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
But some years later, after their brother had emigrated to America | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
and their mother had died, the sisters decided to do some digging. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
We were looking in phone books... | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
I looked in the phone book and I thought, "Well, that's ridiculous. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
"It's highly unlikely they are down here." | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
After a brief but unsuccessful search, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
the sisters stopped looking for the twins. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
But somebody else had got the bit between their teeth. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Tess' husband, Alan, was intrigued by the family history | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
and decided to carry out some secret research of his own. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
I knew that they weren't born before he died | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
and I knew that he had died in December 1954. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
So, initially, I kind of had an nine-month window in 1955 | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
that they were going to be born sometime. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
Alan began his search at the local register office. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I knew they were twins. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
There weren't that many twins born in that period in Bath. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Their mother, we knew lived in the Larkhall area of Bath, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
so I found them quite quickly. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
After this breakthrough, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Alan brought his secret search out into the open. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
He broke the news to Tessa and Jan that he had found | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
a record of his half-brother and sister's births. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
And then we saw the names, so that made it really quite real then. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
We thought, "Oh, my God." But then we didn't know | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
where they were or anything about it, did we? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Could have been anywhere. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
The twins' birth certificates revealed their full names. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
Christopher William Theodore Hart and Jennifer Diane Hart, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:17 | |
which meant Alan could move his search right up to the present day. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
I thought, "Well, the best route to find them would really be | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
"to look for Christopher," | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
because, hopefully, his surname will still be Hart. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Then I went on the electoral register and got the postcode | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
and I said to Tess, "Well, I could probably get the address, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
"but what do we do? Knock on the door and say, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
" 'Hello, Chris. I'm your half-sister.' " You can't do that. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Because you don't know whether they know anything about us. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
The postcode they found was in Bristol, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
just a few miles away from where Alan and Tessa live. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
However, the sisters couldn't decide how to go about making | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
the next move. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
But could fate be about to take that decision out of their hands? | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
-Who would have thought this would have happened? -Yeah, I know. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
It is so bizarre, isn't it? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
CRYING | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
For most people, having family around us | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
is something we take for granted, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
but for some, growing up completely alone is a reality. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
78-year-old Fred O'Donnell has lived in Bradford for 52 years. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
Here, he has raised his own happy family, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
including daughters Theresa and Patricia. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
But the story of his own upbringing couldn't be more different. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
It began in Ireland in the 1940s. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
My dad, at the age of 15 months, was taken | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
to Eccles Street Orphanage by his grandmother. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
They held him there for a few weeks till they found a foster parent | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
and then he was boarded out to four different people | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
over four years. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
And the last one wasn't looking after him correctly. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
And that's when he was found on the streets of Dublin | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
and taken to the court | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
and charged with receiving alms, which is basically begging. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
Judge said, "I will sentence you to eight years. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
"That's your sentence for begging." | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
At the age of eight, Fred was sent Artane Industrial School, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
which housed boys up to the age of 14, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
often sent there for minor offences. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
It was run by a Roman Catholic congregation called | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
the Christian Brothers. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
800 or 900 children there and, you know, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
various different ages, but very strict. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Bed early and up early in the morning. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
And hail, rain or snow, 6.30 in the morning. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-And you still get up at 6.30 in the morning. -I do, yeah. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
-Hm. -Hm. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
The school operated from 1870 to 1969 | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
and was notorious for its tough regime. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
You got a number and my number was 12198 | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
and I've always told that to my children, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
but, you know, they never believed me | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
until some paperwork came through and I saw it on there, 12198. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
It's like being in an army or in a jail. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
And that number will stick to me to the rest of my days. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
-12198. -You were known as 12198, not Fred. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Yeah. 12198. They didn't call you by your name, you were a number. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
In 2009, an investigation launched by the Irish government | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
published the Ryan report. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
It revealed accounts of systematic neglect and abuse | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
within schools like Artane. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Christian Brothers were hard in them days, very hard. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
You didn't really think anything about life, you just...carry on. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
That's the way life is. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
And carry on Fred did, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
until, at the age of 16, he was allowed to leave the institution | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
and make his own way in the world. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Leaving the school was the best days of my life. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Glad to get out of it after eight years. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Fred worked on a farm in Ireland for a few years | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
then emigrated to England. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
In 1963, settled in Bradford, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
had a family | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
and they are grown-up, they have children of their own. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
I felt very happy because I didn't know any of my own parents, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
which was nice to have a family of your own. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
Everything worked out as happy as I wanted it. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
But there was always something missing. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Fred wanted to know more about his mother. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
And his daughter Theresa was more than happy to help. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
The reason why I started doing all this is | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
my dad is a very shy person. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
He's not, obviously, computer literate with things | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
and I really wanted it for my dad. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
The first thing she did was apply for his birth certificate. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Born Pelletstown, County Dublin. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
And it says my mother's name, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
which was Julia O'Donnell | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
and father's name not stated. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Probably because she was outside of wedlock, I don't know. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
They had Fred's mother's name, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
but when Theresa tried to trace Julia O'Donnell, she drew a blank | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
until a chance encounter gave her a hot new lead. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
In April 2013, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
I went into hospital to have an operation | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
and the porter was an Irish man. And, as you do, you get talking. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
He was asking about my dad | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
and I explained that he was in Artane Industrial School, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
born in a mother-and-baby home. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
And he gave me some groups on social networking sites | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
to get in touch with. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
I did that and a lady got in touch with me | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
and she has helped us tremendously. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Got loads of documents and then actually found out through | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
the Magdalene Research Project that my nan was in a Magdalene laundry. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
In 1942, while Fred was put into the orphanage, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
his mum, Julia, was sent to a Catholic-run institution | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
for so-called fallen women - | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
a Magdalene laundry. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
These notorious homes were widespread in Ireland | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
from the 18th to the late 20th centuries. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
An estimated 30,000 women were confined in them. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
They did laundry for the prisons, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
and all the laundry was done by hand, no machines. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
Were there from crack of dawn, late at night and even | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
when they were heavily pregnant, they were still in the laundries. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
Until the day they gave birth, they were in the laundry, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
washing by hand. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
They never got paid for doing these jobs. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
Some of the women were so institutionalised | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
that they remained doing hard labour in the laundries all their lives. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
And Julia's death certificate revealed she was one of them. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
She was in there from an early age and never came out of it. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
Just because she had had a baby, was unmarried. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
It just doesn't seem feasible that there are places like this. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
The last Magdalene laundry closed in 1996 | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
and that's not that long ago. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
The research also revealed a final resting place for Fred's mother. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
When I went to see the grave for the very first time, it was sad. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:33 | |
We let my dad go on his own | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
and he put his hand on top of the grave and said, "Hello, Mum." | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
And that was just it, me and my sister just broke down. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Just to see my dad visiting his mum for the first time, heartbreaking. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:50 | |
You don't want to see your parents go through that at all. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
-You don't want to wish anybody to go through that, really. -No. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
The headstone was inscribed with the name Frances O'Donnell, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
which explained why Fred's mum had been so difficult to trace. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
When she was in the Magdalene home, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
they changed her name from Julia to Frances. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
And that could never be taken off the headstone. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
That's what they did with the ladies of the laundries, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
when they went in, they stripped them of their identities, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
of all the past life. That's their punishment. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
"You're not that same person now. You are in our charge." | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
Very emotional. Very sad. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
I didn't think I would ever see the day that I would see the grave, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
you know? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
But I had a few tears. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Fred, at last, had some answers about what had happened in his early | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
years, but the research had thrown up another incredible revelation. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
A bit shocked to find out there's another | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
member of the O'Donnell family somewhere lurking around. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Fred's quest to find his family wasn't over yet. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
I've been searching for three years, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
just can't believe how it's come to this. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Unlike Fred, sisters Tessa and Jan have known | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
they had half-siblings, but they knew very little else about them. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
Their search had revealed their names, Jennifer and Christopher. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
They had even turned up a possible address for their half-brother | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
just a few miles away in Bristol. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
There the search had stalled as the sisters couldn't decide how | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
or even if they should make contact. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
You can't do that because you don't know | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
whether they know anything about us. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
That was until Tessa received a bolt from the blue. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
I had a phone call from a really close friend of mine, Jane, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
and she said, "Tess, I'm going to take you to lunch. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
"I need to talk to." So we went out to lunch, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
she said, "Now, take it easy. Take a sip of wine." She said, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
"I think I know your half-sister." | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
And I just stared at her and I said, "Well, what do you mean?" | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
And she said, "Well, look, I've known you for 30 years | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
"and I've know Jenny, not so well, but I've known her for 20 years." | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
Jenny and Tessa that not only had a mutual friend, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
they also shared a maiden name, Hart. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
So, she said, "I was at a garden party." I think Jane said, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
"Oh, is Hart a Bath name?" And Jenny said, "Well, I don't know. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
"I think so. Why do you ask?" | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
And she said, "Because my great friend is Tess Hart." | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
And she said Jenny did a double take. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
She said she will never forget Jenny's face. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
And she said, "I was driving home and I was thinking, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
" 'Why was Jenny looking at me like that?' " | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
And she said, "I suddenly thought, 'Oh, my God, I think | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
" 'somewhere along the line, Tessa said she had a half-sister.' " | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
And she thought, "Well, it couldn't possibly be Jenny. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
"Because Tessa said they were twins." | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
She said, "By the time I got home, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
"I thought, 'My God, she's got a twin brother!'" | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Jenny did indeed have a twin brother called Christopher | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
who lived in Bristol. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
They too were aware that they had long-lost siblings | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
who, after that chance conversation at a garden party, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
no longer seemed quite so lost. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
The penny dropped and I thought, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
"Wow, this is more than coincidence." | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
And I was so excited, but I didn't let on, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
but inside, I was just bubbling over. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
So, I phoned Jan and said, "You are never going to believe this." | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
And Jan said, "Well, it may not be her." | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
And I phoned my brother and he said, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
"That's too much of a coincidence." | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
There was only one way to make sure. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Their mutual friend arranged a meeting between Jenny and Tessa. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
I was watching from the conservatory and I saw this car pull up | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
and this lady get out and I felt so emotional. I thought, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
"She looks like my father." | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
So, of course, I was shaking, absolutely shaking. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
I went round with a picture of our father... | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
..and knocked on the door and Tessa answered... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
We sat down and she got her handbag | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
and she took a photograph out | 0:18:02 | 0:18:03 | |
and said, "This was my daddy who died before I was born." | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
And she handed it to me and it was my father. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
So you can imagine what actually went on. Terrible scene. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
And she burst into tears and then I burst into tears. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
It was just tears all the way. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
We just were hugging each other | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
and just couldn't believe it. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:24 | |
60 years ago, Jenny and Chris's mother, Rosemary, had | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
met their father, William, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
fallen in love and fallen pregnant with twins. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
They didn't know she was having twins, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
so I came first and then they said, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
-"Oh, my God, there's another one." -Yeah. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
And then Christopher came later. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
But their father would never get to see his youngest children. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
Our father died before we were born, about three months, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
so we were primarily brought up by my mother and my grandmother. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
To find that you're a widow and you have twins, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
you have no money, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
you must be feeling displaced and you've lost the person you love. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
What kind of future can you actually look forward to? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Their mother worked a string of jobs to support them, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
but money was tight. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
Our mother was struggling. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Each day was really difficult, she had to take any | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
jobs that she could find. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
She worked in the builder's yard as a receptionist at one point. She... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:28 | |
..made curtains and did upholstery at home. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
Actually, she worked in the betting office at one time. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Despite working hard, Rosemary struggled to make ends meet. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
My very first memory was actually Mum having to sell | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
the violins and the cellos in order to support us. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
She was always concerned that even if | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
we didn't have any of the materialistic things, that we were | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
sort of going to be well-rounded and loved and sort of... | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and looked after. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:01 | |
However, growing up in a single-parent family | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
in the 1950s and '60s was undoubtedly tough. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
I certainly felt the stigma. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
My grandmother sometimes would take us to school | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
and I didn't like being taken... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
I wanted to have a father to take me to school. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
-I was bullied a lot. -Yeah. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
Erm...because we didn't have a father. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
Because we couldn't afford to go on school trips and things like that | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
and because we had a grandmother living with us. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
School life wasn't particularly pleasant for me, I must say. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Rosemary was determined that Chris and Jenny | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
would never forget their father, William. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
It's very sad to know that we... | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
you know, our father had died of course and we never knew him | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
but our mother did keep his spirit alive... | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
..by taking us to places where they used to go. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
Showing us photographs. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
They both played the violin together | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
and that's how they were...first met or introduced. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
Music wasn't in our lives until we were five | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
and Mum explained that that was a grieving process for her. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:23 | |
So we didn't really... | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
..know more about that until much later. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
Then when she started to come out of the grief... | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
..it was very special and music was just in our lives all the time then. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
Their mother spent years mourning the memory of their father | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
but she had always been honest with her children about his other family. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
Our mother explained that we had another brother and two sisters | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
but she didn't know a huge amount as to where they lived | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
or what they were doing. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
The only information I ever knew | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
was that there was a possibility that all three lived in America. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
I remember that there was a Theresa and a Janice and a Cecil | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
but we didn't know where. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:17 | |
And of course in the '50s they didn't talk about it really. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
I don't think she knew too much anyway about his previous marriage. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
I think she would have struggled trying to give us a larger picture. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
And also, I didn't want to feel as if I was being disloyal towards her | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
by wanting to know more about my other brothers and sisters. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
So... | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
It only really happened in our adult life that Jenny and I | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
would start to talk about it and go, "I wonder where they are?" | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
It intrigued me, I must say. It really did. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
I was fascinated and it was like a jigsaw puzzle. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
There were a lot of missing pieces. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Now, thanks to a passing comment at a garden party, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
the 60-year-old family jigsaw has finally been completed. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
And after Tessa and Jenny's initial meeting, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
all four of them got together for the first time. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
Tessa and I organised meeting in Bath with Janice, with Jan, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
and Chris. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
We met in Bath and that was quite an experience too, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
to see our other sister. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
It's just so strange to think that is my half sister. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
I never dreamt that this would happen. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Never dreamt that we'd meet them, quite honestly. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
And they've been so warm and so welcoming. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
We were shouting and screaming and whooping, you know. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-Jenny was overwhelmed for months. -Yes, I was. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
I'm far more of a cooler customer. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
And he was gobsmacked. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
I think he took a long time to get to grips with it all. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
-Yeah. -And the funny thing was, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:51 | |
the three of us were in identical clothes. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
-White trousers, white sandals and floral tops. -Floral tops. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
A year after finding each other, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
today marks another very significant occasion | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
for the four half-siblings. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
They are meeting to make a special visit | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
to the grave of the father they all share. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
It'll be the first time they have all been there together | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
and for Jenny, it will be her first visit ever. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
I think Mum didn't take me because she knew I'd get upset | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
and get emotional and then we'd both be very emotional. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
Who would have thought this would have happened? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
-It's so bizarre, isn't it? -I know. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
So this time, well, 18 months ago... | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
-We didn't know them. -..it just wasn't going on, was it? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Today, I'm really excited. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
It's been a while since I've seen the two sisters. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
I think the last time, the only time, I went to my father's grave | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
was when I was in my late teens and so it's been a long time. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
I'm very excited about meeting up with the girls again. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
Hello! | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
Oh, gosh! | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
-Lovely to see you. -And you. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
-You look really well. -And you, of course. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
But before they visit their father's grave, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
there's time to exchange some very special family memories. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Jenny's brought a gift that their father once gave to her mother. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
I've brought something to show you. I hadn't shown you before | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
because I felt it was a little bit on the sensitive side. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
But I thought you'd love to see them, so... | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
So there's that little one. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
Oh, that's quite beautiful, isn't it? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
And those are our daddy's words. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
-JAN: -Oh, that's his writing OK, isn't it? "Always love you." | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
"Magic is in your soul." | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
"In your soul." "You are the loveliest of all." | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
-Oh, Daddy. -It's very sad. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-Right, we have got a few photographs here. -OK. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
We have... | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
That's our dear mother with Cecil there. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Oh, she's beautiful. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
That definitely looks like me. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
There's Daddy...and Mummy. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
Gosh, look at him. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
He's got a lot more weight on him there | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
than some of the pictures we've got, I think. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
-You've got later ones, you say? -Yeah. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
The first time we saw him together, eh? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Yes. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
And there's Daddy. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
-JAN: -Are you all right? | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
-OK? -Yeah. | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
Oh, Dad. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
It's quite sad, isn't it, Jan? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
SNIFFLING | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
-JENNY SOBS -Come here. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
-What's so sad, I think... -SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
A few memories. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
-At least I've got them... -Yeah, exactly. -..now for you and Jenny. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
So there we are, Dad. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
We've all finally made it. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-JAN AND TESSA: -Yeah. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
I used to come here quite a bit and there would be flowers on the grave. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
They were lovely yellow roses | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
and we didn't know who was putting them on there | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
but of course now we realise it was your mum. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Yeah, that's right because she loved yellow roses as well, so that's a... | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
After searching for each other for over 20 years, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Jenny, Chris, Tessa and Jan are united in memory of their father. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
There's a part of me that really wishes we could have met him, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
really could have had some memory of him | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
cos it clearly comes across | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
how kind he was and how much of a gentle person he was. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
And... | 0:28:37 | 0:28:38 | |
Sorry. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
All of us have taken great value out of going through this process today. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:49 | |
It was very powerful for me, the emotions. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
One, cos I had never seen it before. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
To see his name and to have our siblings all together | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
was just truly wonderful. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
I think Daddy would have been really happy that we've found each other. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
And the four of us standing there, it was just lovely. Just lovely. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
THEY CHAT | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
Fred O'Donnell spent his childhood | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
in various Irish institutions for boys in the 1940s. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
He'd been searching for the mother he never knew. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Fred had discovered she'd been confined | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
in one of the Magdalene laundries, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
notorious homes for so-called fallen women. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
He had also found out that she had died in 1996. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
But documents received as part of the investigation | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
had revealed an interesting detail. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Fred wasn't his mother, Julia's, only child. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
She had given birth to another baby three years before Fred, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
in the Bethany mother-and-child home in Dublin. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
The paperwork said there was a girl, so we were a bit shocked at that | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
to find out there's another member of the O'Donnell family | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
somewhere lurking around. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
And we got in touch with somebody from the Bethany Home. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
He did research and said, "No, it's not a girl. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
"It's a boy and he's called Jimmy." | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
And you're working out their ages and you think, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
"Could there be a possibility he's still alive?" | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Helped by his daughter Theresa, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
they managed to establish that his brother, Jimmy, was still alive | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
and that he too had left Ireland for England. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
I contacted a department in Ireland, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
it's like our National Insurance department. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
They had an address for him but living in England. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:51 | |
But because of data protection, which I can understand, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
they would not give me his address. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
We were so near but yet so far. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
If they could just give us the town, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
I could have done a search that way, you know? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
That's all the little thing I needed. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
The search had ground to a halt. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
The family's last throw of the dice was to appeal to the public | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
and finally they got a call. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
It wasn't long-lost uncle Jimmy | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
but it was a family finding company who thought they could help. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
Caseworker Amy Littlechild took up the search and found a ray of hope. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
We contacted a government body | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
to see if they had any information on James. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
They came back to us saying that the result was positive | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
and that they'd potentially found a match. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
So what we did is we asked them if they could forward on a letter | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
for us, in the hope that James would make contact. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
It's hard doing the search to try and trace someone | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
but it's even worse with the long wait of knowing that your letter | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
has been sent to them but waiting for them to make contact with you. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
It's always a little bit gruelling | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
knowing that they're out there somewhere | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
and they could potentially in the next couple of days | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
be speaking with you on the phone. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
But in this instance, they didn't have to wait long for a response. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
I received an e-mail. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
I was at work, I opened the e-mail and it said, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
"We've found your dad's brother." | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
I couldn't quite believe what I was reading. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
He works in a bar in Cheltenham and I thought, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
"80 years of age working in a bar? | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
"Mmm, this is... | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
"I think they've got the wrong person here, surely, 80 years." | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
But, no, he works in a bar. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
Theresa couldn't wait to break the news to her dad. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
She said, "I've got some news for you." And I said, "What is it?" | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
She said, "We've found him." I said, "Found who?" | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
She said, "We've found your brother." | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
And again... | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
It's grand to know that at least I have someone in my life | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
you know, apart from my own family and stuff like that. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
But thinking that maybe I would never have anyone belong to me. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
Theresa was the first to make contact with Fred's brother, Jimmy. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
I was working away in the pub and the bar manager said, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
"Oh, Jimmy, there's a phone call for you. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
"They're people from up the north." | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
I said, "I know nobody from up the north." | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
And certainly these people told me who they were. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
"And we've been looking for you, Jimmy, for the last two years." | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
I said, "Hello? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
"Can I call you Uncle Jimmy? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
And he said, "Sure you can." | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
Well, I'll tell you the honest truth, I was jumping over the moon. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
I was so happy and I said, "Oh, good. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
"It's good to know I've got somebody belong to me." | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
That's what I said. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:48 | |
I have to admit, I did shed a few tears. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Jimmy was born three years before Fred in a mother-and-baby home. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
But as a toddler, he was put into an orphanage called Ovoca Manor | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
in southern Ireland. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
When they put me into the orphan home I often asked, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
"Well, where's my mother and father?" | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
And I was never, never told. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
There was no respect. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
We used to have good times and good singing | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
and we had three meals a day. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
So, in that sense, we were all right. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
But sometimes, if we got out of control, we knew about it. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
I have to admit that. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
And we didn't get off with it light either. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
We all worked hard in the manor. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
We used to do all the cleaning, the avenues and the garden as well | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
and the greenhouse. And look after the cattle as well. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
Jimmy left the orphanage and moved to England by himself aged just 16. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:50 | |
Not having a family, sometimes I cried my eyes out | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
because I used to say, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
"Jimmy, they you are in the world all by yourself. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
"Nowhere to turn to." | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
I've never looked back on anybody to support me or anything. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
I always did it myself. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
I never married because I found out that women are too expensive. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:15 | |
I just said, "Jimmy, stay single." | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
I would like to have a family, yeah. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
But it's never happened. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
By 1972, Jimmy had been in England for 27 years. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
That year, he returned to Ireland for a reunion with his mother, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
arranged by his orphanage. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
By this time, Julia had been in the Magdalene laundry for 33 years. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:43 | |
I only met my mother once and she said to me, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:49 | |
"I'm sorry, Jimmy, but you're not allowed to visit me in the convent. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
"I'm under very strict orders." | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
And that was the last time I saw her. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
There wasn't a warm welcome or anything there. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
I said to myself, "Well, if I'm not allowed to go and visit, Jimmy, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
"forget about it." | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
That was it. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Jimmy returned to his life in England, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
oblivious that he had a brother who would go on to track him down | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
all those years later. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
So, they made it their business to come down and see me. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
They made a date and they came down and we had a wonderful reunion. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
At first, a bit wary because you don't know, after 80 years, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
I mean, he's 80 and I thought, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
"Now, what do you say to a person like that?" | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
So we met up and I stood behind him | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
and I just tapped him on the shoulder and I said to him, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
"Where have you been all my life?" | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
That broke the ice and we were quite happy. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
I knew nothing about him and he knew nothing about me, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
so we've collided and that's it. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
We're glad to get together. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Before Jimmy met his new family, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
holidays and celebrations could be a little bleak. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
When it comes up to Christmas, sometimes I do without it. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
But this year, Fred and Theresa are organising a special celebration | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
so that Jimmy can experience his very first | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
O'Donnell family Christmas. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
Fred and his daughters, Theresa and Patricia, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
have travelled from Bradford to Cheltenham. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
I wonder how Uncle Jimmy is this morning. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-Excited for his Christmas dinner. -Yeah. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Number one, top of the world. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
'Absolutely feeling excited with the family coming.' | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
-How are you feeling? -Oh, I'm feeling all right. Top of the morning. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Excited for the first Christmas. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
I'm not nervous at all. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
I'm just looking forward to the family coming. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
And I'm sitting down to a lovely lunch. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
This will be a good Christmas. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
It'll be the best Christmas I think I ever had. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
Do you know, it seems more emotional, I think, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
than the first time we met him. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
It probably will be, yeah. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
It was worthwhile living this year | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
and to meet them. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Now you know that you have someone belong to you now, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
a family now. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
-Hello. -Hello! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
-How are you? Are you all right? -Yeah, are you? | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
-Yeah. Good to see. -It's good to see you. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
-All right? -Yeah, fine. -That's good. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
And look at these two. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
-How are you? -Good to see you. -It's good to see. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
It's good to see you. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
-PATRICIA: -How are you? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
I'm great. Excited that you've come here today. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
Woohoo! Woohoo! | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
-Get yourself sat down. -SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
A nice Christmas together, Uncle Jimmy. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Merry Christmas to you all. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
And to you. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
Oh, here we are. Wha-hey! | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Thank you. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
It's taken 80 years | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
but Jimmy can finally enjoy Christmas lunch with his family. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
-Ready? -One, two... -THEY CHEER | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Christmas is not Christmas without a hat, Uncle Jimmy. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
-There you go, sweetheart. -Thank you. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Anyway, Jimmy, this is your first Christmas dinner. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
-That's right, yeah. -Together as brothers. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
-Yeah, looking forward to it. -Lovely, isn't it? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
Let's hope we have many more to come. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
-I'm thoroughly enjoying it. -Good. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
I just want to wish everybody a merry Christmas, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
-a happy new year... -Happy new year! | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
-..and lots more... -Merry Christmas! | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
-Merry Christmas, Uncle Jimmy. -..lots more Christmases together. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
And these brothers aren't just back together for Christmas, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
they're back together for life. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
-Are you going to go over to Ireland again, are you? -Of course I am. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
We'll all go together next year. We'll take you. Yeah? | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
-Yeah and...people over there. -We'll have a family holiday. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
-No chasing the women now. -Oh, yes, plenty... | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Oh, no, no, no, no. You're not getting us locked up. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
- Keep away from the women. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
All right. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
-Now then, big brother. -Amen. -Amen. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Thank you. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
And today, there's another first for the brothers. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
This is your first Christmas present from your little brother... | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
-Yeah? -..in your 80 years... | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Oh, good. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:35 | |
-Open that. -..so you have to open this one. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
Oh, yes! | 0:40:39 | 0:40:40 | |
That keeps in my brain. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
-That keeps your brains in. -Keeps in my brain. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Oh. "A marvellous brother who deserves a wish or two." | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
-Of course you do. -LAUGHTER | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
"To my big brother..." | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
Big? Oh, I didn't think I was big. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
-Oh, yes. -Come on, brother. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Whaa-hey! | 0:41:06 | 0:41:07 | |
You've got to wear it sideways. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
-Yours is on the straight side. -That's right. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-You've got to wear it on the side. -Oh, yes. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
Like two leprechauns. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
They just need a fishing rod. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Do you know, speaking of Christmas, when you have people over, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
family all together, the other Christmases that have gone by, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
to be quite honest with you, you might as well not be alive. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
-Yeah. -All right. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
I've often said it a couple of times. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
But just think, you've got the old man here now, haven't you? | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
-Yeah. -How does that feel? -Oh, it's great, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
It's great, it really is. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
I just can't believe how it has come to this. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
I've been searching for three years. We're all together. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
Nothing will ever stop that. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
I won't go astray. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:00 | |
No, we're not going to let you. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
Today may be drawing to a close but Jimmy and Fred are just starting | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
a new chapter of their lives...as brothers. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
-Beautiful day, isn't it, Jimmy? -Yeah, beautiful day. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
We're very thankful for that. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
Let your hair down today. Yeah. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
-It couldn't be any better. -No, it couldn't have been better. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
My goodness, no. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
'You can't mistake that they're brothers.' | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
-Not only in looks but... -The mannerisms, everything. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
The mannerisms. They're just... They're like two peas in a pod. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Yeah, we are definitely brothers, ain't we, James? | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
-Yeah, we're brothers. -We're definitely brothers in blood. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
-And forever. -Yeah. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
Stick together forever. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
-PATRICIA: -I just hope that anybody else | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
-that's going through what we've gone through... -Stick at it. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
Stick at it and don't back down | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
because the outcome is like what we've had today. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
-FRED: -I did get worried I was going to give it up at one point | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
but we carried on and in the end we got him. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
-That's right, yeah. -Best day of my life. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 |