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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I had no information at all about where my mum went. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
You don't know who you are, where you've come from. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
..finding them can take a lifetime... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
I might have a brother that's still living here. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
..especially when they could be anywhere - at home or abroad. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
And that's where the family finders come in, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
from international organisations... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
For someone to say that it's changed their life, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
it makes coming to work really, really special. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
It's a matter of how much effort you really want to put into it, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
how badly you want to solve the problem. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
They hunt through history to bring families back together again. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Finding new family is wonderful. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the family finders... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Suddenly, you get one spark of breakthrough and there they are. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
..learning the tricks they use | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
to track missing relatives through time... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
I didn't think I'd ever find sisters but I have. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
I've been waiting to meet John my whole life. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
Since we've met, I feel part of a family again. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
You've just completed my life for me. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
For some, finding long-lost family members | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
is as simple as picking up a phone or sending an email. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
For others, the search can take a little longer. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
Today, we follow one woman's 31-year hunt for her mother and for answers. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
It's not a nice feeling when you don't who you are, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
where you are, why you're there, where you've come from. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
And Janet's search for the mother she hadn't seen for 50 years. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
I went off the idea altogether cos I thought I was just getting nowhere. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
I knew that she would just have so many regrets if she didn't | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
and her regrets would be my regrets as well. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Denise Wilson was born in April, 1958. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
She was raised in a small village near Newcastle upon Tyne. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
We didn't have a lot but we were always happy. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
As kids, we were always happy | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
and I've got some really good memories of living in the village. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
We had nowt, really, but we had good times, you know. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
But at the age of 12 came a bombshell. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
I'll never forget the time I found out that I was adopted. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
I was at school. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Some of the kids were saying, "You haven't got your mam and dad, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
"you haven't got your real mam and dad." | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
When I went in, I just said to me mam, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
"They were saying at school that you're not my real mam. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
"Is that right?" | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
And my mam really got upset about it, as she would. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
And we sat in the kitchen and she told us that I was adopted. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
I can remember going upstairs | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
and staring out of the window in the bedroom and feeling lost. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
It's not a nice feeling when you don't know who you are, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
where you are, why you're there, where you've come from. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
You think that, you know, I was Denise Maguire, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
living my life normal and then all of a sudden, I'm not. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
I wanted to know who I was. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Denise's adoptive parents, Peter and Pearl, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
couldn't have children of their own and were overjoyed | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
to welcome five-month-old Denise into their family. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
But when she found out she had been adopted, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Denise felt unable to ask her parents | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
for information about her birth mother. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
I was all that my mam had and I just thought | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
I couldn't hurt her feelings by asking her questions, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
so I never, ever did. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
I wanted somebody that was, like, related to me. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
I couldn't wait to, sort of, be the age | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
where I could get married and have kids | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
and so I got married really young, 17, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
and my son was born before I was 18. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
I can remember looking at him and he looked like me | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
and I was looking, staring at him, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
and he was just the double of me | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
and I thought, "Ey...he's my only blood relative, you know." | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
I had another two girls after that. I had what I wanted. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
I had a family and we were all related. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
It was only after her adoptive parents had died | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
that Denise felt able to begin searching for her birth mother | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
and any other family members in earnest. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
I was only 32 when my mam died. My dad had died ten months before her. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Even though I was married with three kids, I was, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
I felt like I was on my own still, you know. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
And then I think that gave us the drive to think, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
"Well, I've got to have a family out there. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
"My mam might have had more kids." | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
So, I just thought, "I'm going to search. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
"I'm definitely not going to give up." | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
At first, all social services were able to provide | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
was a single document and this was the only thing Denise had to go on. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
All I had was my original birth certificate with my name on | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
and the name of my birth mother. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
No father mentioned on the birth certificate, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
just that was the basic thing I had. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
And I was actually called Anne Beryl Walker. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Her birth certificate gave Denise the starting point she needed | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
to begin the search for her mother, Elsie. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
First of all, I started with looking through birth records, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
like at the library, the microfilm and that, but it was quite hard. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
I had an ad in the Manchester Evening News. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
I've been to Manchester County Court to see if I could get records there. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
Social services I've rang and I've wrote to. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Anybody that could help us, you know. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
People who have been adopted, I've asked them how they've done it. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
I've even rang up Manchester radio | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
and they've done a shoutout on there for us. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Once the internet was up and running, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
I got onto some sites, some social media things, and I got help there. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
Denise was advised to get back in touch with social services. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
This time, they WERE able to turn up some more information, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
which gave Denise a vital clue. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
I finally got hold of my birth records from after adoption | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
and it said there was no information about the reasons for the adoption, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
apart from the fact that I was illegitimate, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
which is a bit daft these days. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
"It's likely to be one of the reasons why your birth mother | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
"was unable to keep you." | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
It's says, "You had a sister, Josephine Walker, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
"who was around two years old." | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
I just thought, "I've got a sister." | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
It's like, I've got a sister and I was thinking, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
"God, I'm not an only one," you know. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And so I set about looking for her. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
She may have had no luck finding her mum, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
but Denise now had a lead on a sister she'd never known existed. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
Denise found several Josephine Walkers in Manchester | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
and the surrounding area, but none were the right Josephine. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
So I searched and searched again and a few more came up | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
and then I started going a little bit further afield. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Denise found one marriage record of a Josephine Walker in Peterborough | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
but could find no contact details. She did, however, find someone | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
who sounded like she could be Josephine's daughter. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
I sent a message to her. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
Quite a while went by, about six weeks, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
and there was a message and it said, "Hi, Denise... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
"..Mam's been looking through your profile." | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
She said, "My mam was called Josephine but she's now called Sue." | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
I still wasn't convinced. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
I said, "The Josephine that I'm looking for, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
"she would have been born in Manchester, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
"she would have had a mam called Elsie." | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
She said, "Yes, that's my mam." | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
It had taken years but at last, Denise had tracked down her sister. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
She wasted no time in calling her. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Well, we didn't really have much conversation | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
cos it was all, like, tears down the phone, you know, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and it was definitely... She says, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
"Denise, we've been waiting for you to get in touch with us, you know." | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
They hadn't... | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
They didn't really know where to start with the search. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
They didn't have a clue where to...you know. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
But, um, I'd been doing it for that long, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
I thought I'm not going to stop until I find something, you know. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
Denise's sister, Josephine, had two huge revelations for her. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
Firstly, Denise's birth mother, Elsie, was, in fact, still alive. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
She said, "If you look through my pictures, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
"you'll see a picture of your mam." | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
And there was a picture of my birth mother, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
sitting holding her 80th birthday cake. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
I had a good cry because it was, like, I didn't know who I was. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
And then I thought, "Ye God, I should be happy, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
"because I've found everybody, I should be happy." | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
And I was, but it was just, sort of, overwhelming, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
after all these years, you know. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
45 years after discovering she was adopted, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
Denise had finally found her birth mother. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
But there was more. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
After that, she said, "Are you sitting down?" And I said, "Yes." | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
She says, "Um, there's not just me and you." | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
She said, "There was five of us girls." And it was, like... | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
It was weird. I'll never forget it. And I goes, "Five?" | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
And then she started rhyming them off. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
The four sisters Denise didn't know she had | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
were Marie, Josephine, Carol, who died at the age of 32, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
and Katherine, who had also been adopted as a baby, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
but was yet to be traced. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
After making contact with her birth family, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Denise made the 200-mile journey south to Peterborough | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
to be reunited with two of her sisters and her mother, Elsie. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
In the '50s, she would have been called a scarlet woman | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
and everything, in them days, wouldn't she? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
But nowadays, it's just normal. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Sad, really, to think that she had to do that and give us away, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
but, obviously, she had her reasons. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
I don't feel any bad feelings at all towards her. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
I don't think there'll ever be the closeness | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
of a real mam and daughter. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
I don't think you'd ever get that closeness | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
when you haven't been brought up by someone, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
but there's something there, you know, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
and I've always... I've never hated her. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
I've always had, like, a soft spot for my real mother, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
because I wouldn't be here without her. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Denise now visits her mum, Elsie, regularly, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
but she wasn't well enough to take part in filming. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
One piece of the family jigsaw was still missing though - | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
the whereabouts of Denise's sister Katherine, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
who had also been adopted. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
She was still out there, so I thought, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
"Right, I'm not going to be happy until I find Katherine." | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
After 31 years of searching, Denise had found her mother. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
Now she turned her attention to her missing sister. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Would she prove to be as elusive? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
In Dagenham, Essex, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
76-year-old Janet Emery was also looking for HER missing mother. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
Janet was born just before the outbreak of the Second World War, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
the only child of Madeline and William Oakes. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
I was born in 1939 | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
and my father left for the war in the September, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
so I was really still a baby when he left. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Janet's mum continued to care for her but in 1943, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
her little world was turned upside down. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
When I was about four years old, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
my mother took me to my auntie and uncle's | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
and all I can remember her saying | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
is, "Mummy's going to leave you with Auntie Jean and Uncle Charlie | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
"and they'll look after you for me." | 0:12:08 | 0:12:09 | |
Her mother Madeline had met a Canadian soldier | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
and began a new life with him, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
leaving her daughter to be cared for by her sister. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Still very young, Janet was happy enough with her aunt and uncle | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
for a time, but her mother was never far from her mind. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
I did ask once or twice what my mum was like, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
but I had no information at all about where my mum went. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
We didn't really discuss it. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
I don't think my father allowed them to talk to me about it. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
He was very, very hurt about what happened. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Janet was reunited with her father as soon as he returned from war. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
During his time away, he had remarried. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Janet was then raised by her dad and new step-mum | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
and went on to marry and start a family of her own. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
She never imagined she'd see her birth mother again | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
but, one day, when she was 25 years old, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
a surprise visitor turned up at Janet's home. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
I was in the sitting room doing my ironing | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
and my daughter was nine months old. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
She was on the floor, playing with her toys, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
and there was a knock at the door. This lady said to me, "Janet?" | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
And I said, "Yes." She said, "Do you know me?" | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
And I looked at her and I said, "You're my mum." | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Despite 19 years having passed since she'd last seen her mother, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
Janet invited her in. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
My mum looked at my daughter and she said, "Is that my grandchild?" | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
And for some reason or other, that really upset me. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
I said, "I don't think you've got any right to claim them | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
"as your grandchildren. You left me when I was young. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
"They've got a grandma now that loves them very, very dearly." | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
I resented her for what she said. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
She'd expected to walk in and just carry on as if nothing had happened. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
I think, if she'd apologised and said, "I'm really, really sorry," | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
and told me why she'd left me in the first place, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
it might have been better, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
but she didn't say anything at all about the past. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
She never told me whether she loved me or she had to leave me | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
and I still don't know. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Her mum, Madeline, had another bombshell | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
to drop on an unsuspecting Janet. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
She now had two more daughters by her second husband, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
the Canadian serviceman. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
She said I've got two sisters, two younger sisters, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
who are really longing to meet me and to know all about me | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
and she's going to go home and she's going to tell them about me, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
she's going to send photos | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
and I thought, "Oh, this sounds like it could be really, really nice." | 0:14:44 | 0:14:50 | |
And then she went and I never heard from her again, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
so that was a second rejection, really. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
Then I started to blame myself because I'd been unwelcoming to her | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
and I thought to myself, "If I walked into somebody's house | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
"and was spoken to like that, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
"I probably wouldn't want to know them again. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
As the years went by, Janet couldn't stop thinking about her mum | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
and the two sisters she had never met, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
but it wasn't until half a century later, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
she decided to take action. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
I realised that my mother should be well into her 90s, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
so the most likelihood would be that she'd passed away, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
but I started thinking, "What if I try to trace my sisters?" | 0:15:31 | 0:15:38 | |
But Janet swiftly realised | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
that 50 years after her mother's surprise visit, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
the trail had gone very cold. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
What I really regret most of all is that I didn't even ask my mum | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
what my sisters' names were, so I had no names, no births, nothing, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:57 | |
and I didn't even ask where she came from, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
so I had no information at all to go on to even start looking for them. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
But there was one person who wasn't going to let Janet give up - | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
her own daughter, Deborah. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
I knew this is a dream of hers and I'd really like her to fulfil that. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
Um, it's like there's something missing and it would be... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
it would be wonderful if she finds her step-sisters. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Deborah's really helped to encourage me with this search. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
She knows it's something that I really wanted to do | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
and it's my heart's desire to find my sisters. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Deborah helped her mum sign up to a genealogy website. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
I posted a message on it, asking if anybody knew my mother's name. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:46 | |
But disheartened by the lack of results, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Janet gave up the search and turned her back on tracing her family. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
She's always wanted to find her sisters but I think the fear, | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
the fear that they may be not interested | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
and they might reject her, that's got in the way. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
I went off the idea altogether | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
because I thought I was getting nowhere | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
and nobody would really know anything this long time gone past. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
Little did Janet know that the search she thought had gone cold | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
was about to hot up. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
-'Isn't that wonderful?' -Oh, my God, I can't believe it. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
You've just completed my life for me. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
After her 31-year quest for answers, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Denise Wilson's search was finally coming to fruition. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
Adopted as a baby, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
she had discovered that not only was her birth mother still alive, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
but that she also had sisters, one of whom had never been traced, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
so Denise set out to find her, 50 years after she'd been adopted. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
My birth mother, Elsie, I asked her about Katherine and she said, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
"Oh, she went to somebody that had a son | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
"and she went and adopted Katherine | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
"and Katherine was brought up in Manchester." | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
And I thought, "Well, how can I trace her?" | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
Denise was desperate to track down the final missing sister, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
so employed the services of a family finder who specialised in adoption. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:29 | |
Within a few weeks, he'd found a brother, he knew her name, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
he got us her birth certificate. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
We knew where she was born and then he actually located her. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
There was a picture and I just knew. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
I looked at the picture and I thought, "That is a young Elsie, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
"that's my sister, I know it is." And it was. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Denise had, at last, found her sister Katherine. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
I rang her about 11 o'clock in the morning and I goes, "Hi, Katherine." | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
Um... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
I says, "You don't know me but I'm your sister." She goes, "What?!" | 0:19:02 | 0:19:08 | |
I just told her I was her sister and, um... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
She goes, "I can't believe it." | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
She was like, "I can't believe it," she's going. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
I jumped around and screamed a lot | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
and couldn't control myself for excitement, basically, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
but I was getting all this info all in the spate of about 20 minutes. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
She was telling me this and telling me that | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
and it was just madness but brilliant, absolute brilliant. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
I was so ecstatic. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
And then I was able to tell her that we had other sisters | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
and that our mam was still alive, um... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
And she just...she just loved it. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
When Denise was adopted, she'd been taken to the northeast. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
The couple who adopted Katherine remained in the northwest. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
I had a terrifically happy childhood. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
I grew up in Urmston, in Manchester, and just basically had fun | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
and did what kids did in those days. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
It was lovely, absolutely lovely. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
My mum did an awful lot for me. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
My mother actually told me I was adopted | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
when I was about five, five or six. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Somebody in my class at school was adopted, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
so I asked my mother what "adopted" is | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
and I think she must have chose her opportunity to tell me then, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
and I was quite chuffed about it, actually, cos I felt quite chosen. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
So, I was quite happy with the whole situation. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
It makes you feel special, I think, at that age. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
My mum told me that I'd had an older sister | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
and that my natural mother couldn't look after us, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
and that was that, basically. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
"She was on her own, she had two young children, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
"that's why you were adopted." | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
There was nothing mentioned about anything, really, like that. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
And I just took it as that was it | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and never really pursued the matter until later. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Denise and Katherine may never know the details | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
of why their mum gave them up for adoption, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
but there's no doubt that life for single mothers | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
in the 1950s was far from easy. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Historically, having children out of wedlock was really frowned upon. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
The term for it was "socially fallen". | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Your family might be ashamed of it, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
the local community would talk about it | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
and it was something that needed to be hidden away. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
The creation of the welfare state in 1948 | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
meant that these so-called "fallen women" were now eligible | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
for child benefits, known at the time as national assistance, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
and the Adoption of Children Act, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
which came into force the following year, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
was designed to safeguard both single mothers and their babies. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
However, even by the late 1950s, society still viewed marriage | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
as the only real acceptable qualification for parenthood | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
and mothers of children born out of wedlock | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
would have still come under pressure from doctors, parents and the church | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
to give up their babies for adoption. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Charities would have got involved and facilitated adoption. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Doctors might have found a place for a baby | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
in the local or wider community | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
because they knew the baby was coming along, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
so it was just a very different outlook on life. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
Denise and Kathy's mother would not have been alone | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
in giving her children up. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
In 1958, there were over 13,000 adoption orders, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
the majority of which were babies of unwed mothers. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Now the final piece of the jigsaw had been found. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
After 31 years of searching, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
it was time for Elsie and all of her daughters | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
to meet for the first time. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
When I actually met them all, it was like I'd never been away, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
if you know what I mean. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
I walked into a room and I felt like I belonged. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
I didn't know what to say to my mother, actually, I really didn't. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
And... | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
We just sat and smiled a lot, basically. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
I gave her a hug, wished her well and everything. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
But she's a frail little thing. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I was scared of breaking her, to be honest. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
It was an emotional reunion, but amongst all the celebrating, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
Katherine and Denise didn't get much of a chance to talk properly. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
We haven't been together and had a good conversation, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
like I have with the others, because we've been separate. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
It would be nice to have a bit of conversation | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
or spend a little bit of time with Katherine. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
So, the sisters have arranged to spend an entire day together. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
This is an opportunity for me to have a nice little chin chat | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
with her on our own and find out all our bits and bobs about each other, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:41 | |
so I only know the outside bits at the minute. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
I don't know all the details. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
Janet and Denise are meeting in Manchester | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
to get more of a feel for their family roots | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
and the area where they were both born. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
I'm getting quite giddy, actually. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
I'm getting quite sort of fluttery cos this is quite a... Yeah... | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
It's quite an event. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
I've never, ever visited the area | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
where my mam actually gave birth to me. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
I've never been there, never visited, um... | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
So it will be really nice if we can get to do that. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
After years of being totally oblivious to each other's existence, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
the two sisters can finally begin making up for lost time. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
How are you? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Ooh, ooh. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
-You all right? -Yeah, yeah. -Are you looking forward to this? -Yeah. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
So, we'll go and find out where we come from. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
The girls were born within a few miles of each other, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
just two years apart, before being adopted. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
I was five months old. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
-And I was 18 months. -And you were 18 months old. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
-It's sad, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
Well, we just don't know what the circumstances were, really. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
-Remember when I first rang you? -Yeah. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
-That must have been a bit of a shock! -Yeah, it was! | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
-Well, you heard me, didn't you? -Yeah. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
I sort of went leaping about the kitchen like a loony. Oh, dear. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
-"Hello, Kathy." -"I'm your sister." -"I'm your sister." | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
That was funny. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
The house where Denise was born has since been demolished, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
so they've come to see the place where Kathy was taken to live | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
when she was newly adopted. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
Lived here till I was, oh, 17. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Urmston, oh, we're here. Oh, my God. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
So, you recognise it? | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
-Highfield Primary School! -Yeah? -Oh, here we go. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
-There we are, ladies. -Oh, it's got scaffolding up. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-Is this your old house? -This is my old house, yeah. Oh, my God! | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
Were you brought here when you were just a baby, to this house? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
-Yeah, this is where I came. This is where I came. -Yeah. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
I used to climb onto the porch | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
and get in the bathroom window when I couldn't get in. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
-Underneath there, there's a bag of pennies that we buried. -Where? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Underneath there. He used to play the guitar... | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
..that one used to play the drums, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
I used to play the trumpet, the cornet, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
my brother played the guitar. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
KATHY CHUCKLES | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
-I had lovely memories here, absolutely lovely memories. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
I can't believe it. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Kathy's still got a photograph of her with her parents | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
in front of this very house, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
taken a few years after they adopted her. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Oh, is that the photograph of the house? | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
-We were stood over there, right in between the windows. -Oh, right. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
-Oh, my God. -Yeah, how weird. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
We definitely get me in between the windows again. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
-Right. -Before and after. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
I think we've been quite lucky, really, that... | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
-We've been lucky, yeah. -You know, cos... I don't know. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
I think it's where you grow up as well and where, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
-circumstances of where you grow up as well. -Yeah, I think we went to... | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
..good homes, basically. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
It's a shame mum had to give us up but she must have had her reasons | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
-and I think it gave us, maybe, a better life. -Oh, definitely. -Yeah. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
-Definitely. -So... -I mean, it's been... | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
-I've got no, sort of, misgivings about anything. -No. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
-I just feel sad that we weren't all together, the sisters. -Yeah. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
To grow up together, that would have been nice. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
It would have been harder in those days. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
It wouldn't have been a nice... | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
It wouldn't have been nice to do it but... Other circumstances. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
-It would have been nice if things had been different. -Yeah. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
I wouldn't ask my natural mother to explain why she did things | 0:27:59 | 0:28:06 | |
because, like, it's in the past, that's past. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
It's... | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
It's not the past we have to worry about now, it's the future, so... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
It's a shame the girls never grew up together | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
but this is just one of those things that's happened. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
We can make up for it now. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
For Denise, it's the end of a search for answers that began 31 years ago. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:29 | |
There's questions that are still unanswered but... | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
..I don't think they're going to be answered now. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
I think it's about time we sort of call it a day, really, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
and just be thankful, really, for what I HAVE found | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
and the answers that I HAVE got, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
because I could go on another 31 years | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
and maybe not have any more answers, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
so I think now it's about time to call it a day. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
Thanks to Denise, all this happened anyway, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
so I can only thank her from the bottom of my heart, basically, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
because it's been a totally, totally brilliant experience. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
I was found and I'm so glad I was found. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
I think it's nice to know where you come from, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
who you are, you know, and just your blood relatives, really. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
I didn't think I'd ever... | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Well, I didn't think I'd ever find sisters, you know, but I have. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
In Essex, Janet had spent 50 years | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
wondering what had happened to her mother, Madeline. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
Janet finally began looking, but after a message she posted | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
on a family tracing website went unanswered, she gave up. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
However, unbeknownst to Janet, just 70 miles away, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
some distant family members had, in fact, spotted her message. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
I sent an email to Janet saying how thrilled I was | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
that we'd come into contact and I heard absolutely nothing at all. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
Brother and sister Tony and Jane had reason to believe | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
that Janet's mum could be their aunt but their email went unanswered. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
I was very confused. I didn't know... | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
You wonder whether you'd maybe put something in the email | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
that perhaps wasn't to her liking, was too upsetting, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
or perhaps something had happened to her. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
You just didn't know what to think. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
And there, fate may have ended the search. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Jane's email had arrived | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
at the point when Janet had given up looking. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
But fate hadn't reckoned with Janet's daughter, Deborah. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
I knew that she would just have so many regrets if she didn't, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
and her regrets would be my regrets as well. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
My daughter said, "Mum, you ought to go on the site, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
"cos you never know. Just go on it and see. You might have a message." | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
So, a couple of days later, I thought, "I'll have a nose round, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
"see what's going on," and I couldn't believe it. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
I had two messages from my first cousin, Jane, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
and it was, like, I couldn't believe it. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
They'd been sitting there for months. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
She was like a big kid when she found out. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
She was like, "You'll never guess, never guess!" | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
And then we got an email from her which was lovely, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
with all her news and what she'd been doing | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
and all about her children and it was wonderful, absolutely wonderful. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:30 | |
Janet's mum had had a brother called Maurice. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
Tony and Jane are his children and, therefore, Janet's cousins. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
They knew her mother, Madeline, as their Aunt Madge. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
My father was one of seven siblings. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
Madge was the eldest and they had quite a poor upbringing, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
I think, um, in the East End of London. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
They met the mysterious Aunt Madge a couple of times | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
during their childhood when she came over from Canada to visit. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
What I recall of Madge whilst I was growing up | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
was she was a very warm, pleasant, ever-smiling, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
light-hearted person who enjoyed dancing a great deal | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
and was exceptionally pleasant and friendly. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
-She was quite an exotic creature, really. -She was. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
I remember her, cos she was always dressed to the nines | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
and had the most perfect hair. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
Beautiful figure and she had this wonderful Canadian twang. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
But they knew very little else about Madge. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
We knew that she'd had two daughters but, other than that, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
absolutely nothing, really nothing. Didn't know where she lived. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
I don't remember seeing any pictures or ever having a conversation | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
with, I suppose, my cousins, um, at all. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
It was only years later that they found out | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
that Madge had been married before. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
I can't really even remember when, um...when I found out | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
that Madge had had, um...a daughter | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
with her first husband, um, until much later. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
I must have been in my 20s, I think, if not later than that. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
But, of course, there was no way of contacting her at all. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
Didn't know the surname, didn't know anything about her whatsoever, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
even her name, actually. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
And Janet had had absolutely no idea | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
about the existence of Jane and Tony. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Before I'd made contact with Jane, I didn't know anything. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
I didn't know I had any cousins or anything at all. I was so excited. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
I just couldn't believe my eyes. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
I really, really got very, very emotional | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
and I just felt that, even if I don't find my sisters, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I have found family. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
If, like Janet, you want to find family who have moved abroad, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
tracing them can prove more challenging. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
As well as potential language barriers, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
many countries don't have online archives. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
A good place to start is with immigration records, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
which are stored at the National Archive. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
These will provide useful information, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
like names, occupations and exact dates of arrival in a country - | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
a good starting point for any search. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
And countries with strong ties to the UK, like Australia and Canada, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
have dedicated genealogy centres that can assist you in your search. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
Janet exchanged several emails with Tony and Jane | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
and they arranged to meet, taking their mother, Ann, along too. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
Janet was hoping that they might have some information | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
about HER mum and sisters. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
In the summer, we arranged that they would come here to see me. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
There was my Auntie Ann, my cousin Tony and my cousin Jane. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:55 | |
It was like I'd always known them. It was really, really terrific. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
It's really exciting to have found Janet. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
She's a wonderful person | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
and it's great to have another member of the family. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
At the meeting, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:13 | |
her newfound relatives had some sad news for Janet. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
She said, "Your mum died when she was 68." | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
And I realised that was only four years after I'd met her. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
She couldn't remember my sisters' names. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
She thought one was called Joy but she wasn't that sure. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
But it was a real breakthrough that she did actually know | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
where my mother settled, because it pinpointed where to look for them, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:43 | |
and she said that she came from Nottawa. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
It was exactly the sort of extra detail Janet needed | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
to progress the search and today, four months after they first met up, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
Janet's seeing Tony, Jane and their mother, Ann, again. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
Today's meeting also marks another milestone. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
Janet's daughter, Deborah, is meeting | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
her mum's long-lost cousins for the first time. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
How are you feeling about meeting them today? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
I'm really excited, yeah, really excited. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Yeah, it's, um, it's been a long time waiting for this, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
for this moment. And I'm going to treasure this moment. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:26 | |
Ah, that's lovely. I can't wait for them to meet you. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
-She's coming with her daughter, Deborah. -Yes. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
So that will be lovely to meet her. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
-Here we are. -Yes. -Lovely. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
Janet, hello, darling! | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
Good to see you. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
THEY ALL LAUGH AND TALK OVER EACH OTHER | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
Introductions over, cousin Tony has a surprise for Janet. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
-A family member has discovered some photographs. -Oh! | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
Let me just show you. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
There's a photograph of your mother, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
which we believe was taken in Canada. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
-In Canada? -Indeed. -In Canada? Oh! -Oh, wow. Oh, look, Deborah. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:30 | |
It's the first time Janet's seen this image of her mother | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
and there's more to come. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
One here of Madge, your mum, and your sisters. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
-Oh, look! Oh, my sisters! -That's a lovely photograph. -Oh, my gosh! | 0:37:43 | 0:37:49 | |
It was the fall, September, 1954. She'd only just got there then. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
-Aren't they like her? -So that's... -Oh, my goodness. -So that's Joy? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
-That's Joy. Oh, look. -And that's Glenda. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
She looks so happy there as well. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
-Oh, gosh, you look like her! -Yeah. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
-Wow, you really look like her. -Oh, my God. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
JANET SNIFFLES | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Oh, that's... Oh, I can't believe it. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Thank you so much. Oh, I, I... | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
I can't begin to say how wonderful that is of you. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
Janet is one step closer to knowing the family | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
that's taken her decades to find. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
I can't believe that I've actually seen my sisters on photo | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
and my mum in Canada with them. I'm just overwhelmed. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Today was absolutely fantastic, to meet everyone. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Today went brilliantly. It was magnificent. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
It's made the family whole. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
Not only has Janet discovered family she never knew about, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
the cousins have also helped fill in some crucial gaps | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
in her family history. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
Janet had already enlisted the help of a family finding company | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
to trace her sisters. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
Now armed with the information on a possible location in Canada | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
and their own extensive research, Janet was relying on them. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
Although I didn't have very much information to go on, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
this company felt that they would be able to help me | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
and they were willing to take on the search. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
They have been able to trace the whereabouts, through certificates, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
of where my sisters might be, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
that they're still living, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
and the search seems to be getting quite close | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
and I'm beginning to be very, very excited | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
and yet trying not to be too excited | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
in case it just, somehow, doesn't come to fruition. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:53 | |
I think, with Janet's case, this had been a long time. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Janet had not heard from them, | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
had not had any contact for about 50 years. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
When it's like this, where there's good information in one respect, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
but little information on another side, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
it may not go as quickly or as smoothly as you hope it will. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
But today, three weeks after Janet found a possible location, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
there's some news from the family tracing company. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
-'Hello, Janet, how are you?' -I'm fine, thank you. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
I'm just ringing to see if you've got any news about them yet. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
'We've been able to find contact details for Joy, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
'who was the older of the two sisters. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
'And, very excitingly, last night, I placed a call to Joy | 0:40:35 | 0:40:41 | |
'and gave her the news that you had been trying to find her. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:47 | |
'And her first reaction was, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
'"Oh, my goodness, that's my half-sister, isn't it?"' | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
JANET GASPS AND LAUGHS | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
-Oh, wow! -'Which was incredible.' -Oh, my gosh! | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
'And she straightaway said, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
'"Yes, we've always known about Janet, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
'"we've always thought about her | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
'"and wondered where she was and how she was getting on."' | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
-Thank you. -'Isn't that wonderful?' -Oh, my God, I can't believe it. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
'She's really keen to get in contact. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
'She still sees your other half-sister, Glenda, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
'so I'm quite sure by now that Glenda will also know the good news | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
'and she's keen to hear from you, Janet.' | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Oh, Jennifer, I don't know how to thank you. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
-You've just completed my life for me. -'Oh, you're so, so welcome. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
-'It really genuinely was our pleasure.' -Thank you so much. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
-Bye. I'll be in touch. -'Bye-bye.' -Bye. Thank you. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
I told you. I knew you would find them. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Janet's 50-year search for her family is finally over. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:58 | |
I just want to tell everybody, I just want to ring up everybody | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
and tell them I've found my sisters. It's so wonderful. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I don't know whether to cry or laugh or... Just so emotional. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
I can't wait to see them now. I can't wait to be with them. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
For someone like Janet who, for 50 years, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
has wanted to just meet these sisters or speak to these sisters, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
and now she can have that, I'm absolutely thrilled for her. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
To play a part in that is wonderful. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
It makes coming to work really, really special. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
And Janet can make contact with the sisters she's never known. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
"Dear Joy, I'm so excited to find you. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
"I really can't believe it and I'm longing to get to know you. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
"We have got so much to share together. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
"I have been searching for you both for many years | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
"but everything I tried came to no avail. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
"I'm so looking forward to you emailing me back | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
"and making contact with Glenda too. Take...care." | 0:42:51 | 0:42:56 |