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Back in 2010, the Wilson family had high hopes of a life down under. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
We are thinking about Australia because a better lifestyle, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
better weather. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Better living accommodation, just seems to be a lot of betters. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
And the dream might have been just within their grasp. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
Wow! This is absolutely ideal. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
However, husband Chris knew the pressure was on him to deliver. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
If I can't get a job, that comes pretty much on a par with what I'm getting at the minute | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
in the UK, I'll be honest, I can't see... I can't see it actually working. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
But could they bear to leave loved ones back home? | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Or would it be too painful? | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
I can't do this, sorry. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
It is a lot to think about, yeah. A whole lot to think about. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Mm... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Yeah, sorry. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
So, the big question is, where are the Wilsons now? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
In the UK or living down under? | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Australia's famous laid-back way of life, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
sunny climate and almost 50,000 kilometres of coastline have long | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
made it the favourite destination for Brits looking to move abroad. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
But life down under doesn't always deliver the paradise new | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
arrivals may picture. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
The Wilson family wanted to find out if emigration could offer them | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
a better life. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
But a move down under inevitably meant leaving loved ones behind. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
And after a trial week in Australia, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
they were faced with the huge decision of | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
whether to stay in the UK or make the move down under for good. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
In 2010, the pretty village of Wilberfoss near York was | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
the home to the Wilson family, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
36-year-old Chris, Debs, 35, and their two black labradors, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
Beth and Susie. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:11 | |
They were keen to explore the idea of taking their dogs | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
and making a life-changing move down under. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
But this wasn't the first time they'd upped sticks and moved. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
Chris has been in the RAF for 16 years. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
And was shunted from pillar to post, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
so he is used to packing up his boxes and moving on again. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
We've moved around a considerable amount. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Something like 12 houses in 14 years. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
It is difficult when you are in the forces, you can't get settled down anywhere. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
As soon as you get there and settle down, you make friends, you get posted and... | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
That's it. Boxing up again and we are off. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
-I suppose it kind of in my blood now to get itchy feet every three years, so... -Yeah. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
Since Chris had left the RAF, they were free to go anywhere | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
and Chris was set on moving them lock, stock | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and barrel to the other side of the world. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Some days I wake up and I'm all excited | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
and think it's going to be the best thing since sliced bread. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Other days, I wake up and panic and think, oh, God, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
it's just too far away. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
It's all the way round the other side of the world. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
And I don't know, it just seems like such a big step to take. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
It's a big decision to make. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
Debs and Chris both dreamt of a life in the sun. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
And the key to that was work. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Chris loved his job in the UK and he wouldn't settle for second best. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
It's critical that I get this kind of work down in Australia, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
if we were to go. It's what I've been trained to do. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
It's what I've known for pretty much my whole working career. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
It's got to be pretty much the same as what I'm doing now | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
to go down there. If it's not, then I don't know, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
it could put a bit of a spanner in the works, so to say. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
But would it proved to be just too hard to leave friends | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
and family behind and jet off into the unknown? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
It's a huge decision because I would miss all my family | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
up in Scotland because I do go and see them quite a few times a year. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
So I'd miss all of them. I would miss my friends. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
It is a lot to think about, yeah. A whole lot to think about. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
Mm... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
Yeah. Sorry. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
It's just such a big decision to make. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
The Gold Coast, famed for its Mediterranean climate, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
with beaches just minutes away, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
could offer the Wilsons the outdoor lifestyle they wanted. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
It also had a thriving business community and two local airports, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
so there were good job opportunities for both Chris and Debs. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
After a journey of 10,000 miles and 21 hours in the air, the Wilsons | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
arrived jet-lagged and keenly aware of just how far from home they were. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
It was probably worth it but it's just such a long time, isn't it? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-It's a long flight. -You just never think you are going to get off. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
You've got short haul, long haul, you can add extremely long haul now. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
But the flight hadn't dented their enthusiasm for the coming week. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
Yeah, looking forward to being here, seeing everything | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
and finding out what everything is all about. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
And just putting it all together and seeing how it pans out. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
The Wilsons were staying in a rented house in Coomera, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
a suburb of the Gold Coast. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
It was a perfect place to get a taste of what the Australian life could be like. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
The style and layout of this property was very | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
different from what they were used to back in the UK. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
So, what would they make of their temporary home? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
-Hm. -Hm. -This is nice, isn't it? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Yeah. I didn't expect it to go straight into the living room. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
-No, straight in... -The hall. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I don't know if I totally like the open plan all the way from | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
the kitchen, dining room and living room, all as one big open plan. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
I don't know if I like that or not. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Things were not off to a good start and Chris was in for a shock. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
There is a lot to think about this next week, isn't there? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Crikey. Loads. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
Everything has got to compare at minimum, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
-compare with what we've got back home. -Yeah, course, or else it's... There's no point moving. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
-So, yeah, there's a lot to think about. -A lot to think about. -It's going to be intense, isn't it? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
Chris and Debs had high expectations of what Australia had to offer. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
If this week left them disappointed, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
it could mean an end to their Aussie dream. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Back in the UK, Chris and Debs lived in Wilberfoss, near York. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
They had bought this three-bedroom semidetached | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
house in 2007 for £165,000 and made it their own. | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
They had wanted to take their dogs | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
and all their furniture to Australia, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
so finding a suitable home down under could have been a struggle. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
Yeah, three-bedroom, I think is realistic for us to begin with. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
Yes, that's realistic, but what would you like? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Well, I would like a six bedroom house, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
but realistically, three-bedroom house would be enough. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
Realistically, three bedrooms then, with a double garage. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
Bungalow. One floor. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Two storeys. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Well, it looked like someone was going to be disappointed. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-Very much agreed on that one then. -Yeah, we are. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Well, you stay at one end of the street and I'll stay at the other then! | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
Chris and Debs knew that being 10,000 miles away from loved ones | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
could be lonely, so it was essential that they find a comfortable home. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
Their search started in the suburb of Ormeau. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Property one was on the market for around £214,000. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
That was at the top end of their budget, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
but with three bedrooms, a double garage and a good size | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
garden, it seemed like it had everything they wanted. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
But what would Chris and Debs make of it? | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
It's all open plan. You got your kitchen, dining room, living room. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
I'm not sure if I 100% like the whole open plan thing. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
But... Just because I'm not used to it. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Yeah. I do. I like it. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Debs seemed positive and it looked like she was winning Chris over. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
It's quite a nice big living area, isn't it? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
It's big, yeah. Plenty of room for the dogs. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Yeah. Hm. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Well, the dogs would be fine | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
but Chris had found some serious concerns about this house. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
We would not get our size bed in here and our bedside cabinets. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
I just don't think it would be... There wouldn't be enough space. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Attempting to match a house to their existing furniture | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
looked like a tall order. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
This is OK. This bit. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
Nice grassed area as well for the dogs. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
I think, personally, I'd want something slightly bigger. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
Double the size of this. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
That was all well and good but if you were at the top | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
of your budget, a bigger garden was impossible. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
What do you think? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
-First impressions weren't good. -No. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Don't know why. But outside just seemed a bit shabby. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
I'm not sure I like the idea of one of the bedrooms being | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
straight off the kitchen. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
There's only a couple of positives about this. One was a double garage. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-Yeah. -I quite like that. And two, its en suite. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
-Now, for me, this property is not for us. -No, OK. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
It's too small. And I think that's it. It's not for us. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
-Let's go then. -Let's go. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
It hadn't been a great start and if they couldn't find a house where | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
they felt at home, Chris' Australian dream would be a nonstarter. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
Was the next property more up his street? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
-This looks a bit different, doesn't it? -Yeah. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
I can't make out if it's one house or if it's adjoining houses to it. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
No. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Property two was a two-storey three-bedroom semidetached | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
house, in Ormeau. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
And it was on the market for £226,000. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
That was over budget, but what did they think? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-This is nice. -It is nice. -See, I like this because even though it still open plan, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
it's still kind of the kitchen, dining room, separate. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
I like this better than the previous. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
The last house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
That was good. And the Aussie layout seemed to have grown on Chris. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
-I don't think it's quite big enough for our furniture to get in. -It's not. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Just how much furniture had they planned on bringing? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-OK. -Nice, though. -Yeah, it is nice, yeah. -Nice and airy. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
This looks like the master bedroom. We would get a massive bed in here. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-Yeah, with room to spare. -Yeah. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
-Wardrobes. -En suite. Big shower. Like that. -It is big. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
-Marvellous. -Hm. -Hm, yeah. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-And stairs. -Brilliant. -What you've always wanted. -It is, an upstairs. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
That sounded much more promising. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
If they could stretch their budget, was this house for them? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
This property is really nice. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
Probably because it's very similar to the houses | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
we have back in the UK, in that it's got an upstairs. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I like the house but I haven't seen the garden yet. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
But judging by the size of the house, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
I'm assuming that it's got a fairly decent sized garden. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
So, that will be good. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
So this is like... This is it, here. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
-It will go. -Yeah, this is it. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-Small. -It is small, isn't it? -I thought it would be slightly bigger. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
And so all you've got is this grass area here. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
-That's disappointing. -Very, very disappointing. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
-Couldn't really call it a garden, could you? -No. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-If it had like trellising round it, it would be classed as a window box. -Yeah. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:51 | |
Property two wasn't for them either, but to get a house that they | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
liked with the space they wanted, they'd have to pay even more | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
and their budget was already stretched to the limit. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Was their hopes of a life in Australia over before it had begun? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
-This looks nice, doesn't it? -It does. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Property three was very nice. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
But it should have been, with a price tag of £255,000. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
That was 50 grand over budget. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
-This is an improvement. -Hm. It's nice and big, isn't it? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
-Yeah. -Definitely fit the bed in here. -Certainly will. -Yeah. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
Quite a nice size. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
We could probably fit most of our furniture in here. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
-Most of it. Probably not all of it. -Mm. -Yeah. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Well, if we are not going to fit our furniture in there, we are certainly going to fit it in here! | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
-We'll have to buy some more furniture. -Oh, yeah. -Because we haven't got enough now. -No. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
-It is a nice size room though. -It's a very nice sized room. -And the kitchen is fab, isn't it? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
-Great size kitchen. -Yeah. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
After a quick tour around the rest of the house, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
it all looked promising, but was the garden big enough? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
This is a nice sized garden. Wow! | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
This would suit the dogs, down to the ground. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Can you imagine them...? Oh... | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
They would just love this. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
This is absolutely ideal for the dogs. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-I can just see them sat there. -Sunning themselves. -Yeah. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
For the size of the grassed area, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-like, the general patio area seems quite small. -Mm. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
You could have a larger entertainment area. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
-Yeah. Very impressed. -Yeah, I like this a lot. -Yeah. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Finally, a property they both liked, but it was over budget | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
and it would have been a real struggle to buy a house like this. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
They were going to have to have a serious rethink about what | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
sort of property they could have afforded. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Property one just wasn't for them and left them cold. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Although property two ticked a lot of boxes, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
the tiny garden was a huge disappointment. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
But house number three was spot on, on everything except the price. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
So, were they tempted into a dream they couldn't afford? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
And how did they vote? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
-UK. -Australia. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
I didn't think you would. I thought you would go Australia. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
I've surprised myself a little bit, I think. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
-But I've been a little disappointed today. -Right. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
People don't realise in the UK that house prices have | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
-massively boomed out here. -Yeah. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
You don't get as much for your money today as what you used to do. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-And that's been reflected today. -I know, but... | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
I just think you do get more room for your money. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Back in the UK, Chris and Debs enjoyed an active social life, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
helped by their two incomes. To maintain this lifestyle, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
they would have both had to have found work in Oz. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Debs was an experienced legal secretary, but it was Chris' | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
skills as an aircraft engineer that was key to their move down under. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
The job I have here is exactly what I'm after, working on search | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
and rescue is a really rewarding job, you know. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
In the business of saving and helping people. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
And this is the kind of work I would be looking | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
for if we were going to go down under. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
After discovering Australian property was more expensive than | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
they thought, Chris and Debs knew that their budget would be tighter, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
so it was vital for Chris to be impressed by his work opportunities. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
For me, getting a job down in Australia is absolutely paramount. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
If I can't get a job that comes pretty much on a par with what | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
I'm getting at the minute in the UK, then I'll be honest, I can't see... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
I can't see it actually working. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
I'm also very anxious that if the wage structure isn't | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
what we require, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
if the hours aren't quite the same as what I'm working | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
in the UK, I think to be honest, this is going to be make or break. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:51 | |
Chris was determined to replicate his UK | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
job as closely as possible, so we sent him to Careflight Search and | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
Rescue Helicopter Base in Coolangatta to meet pilot Jeremy Ovens. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-Nice to meet you, mate. -Welcome to Australia. -Thank you very much. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
-What would you like to see? Do you want to see around the hangar? -Sure, yeah, that would be great. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
Yeah, let's have a look around. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
The air rescue base was expanding its fleet of helicopters | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
and jets, which meant more work to keep them in the air 24 hours a day. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
Yeah, normal jobs are going to smaller country hospitals. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
-And bringing the patient back to intensive care units. -OK. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
These small hospitals are good. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
A lot of the time they haven't got the facilities to fix the patient. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
But with only a small engineering team, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Chris needed to be sure there would be work opportunities for him. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-Chris? -Yeah, Chris. -Nice to meet you, Chris. -And you. -Originally, we were outsourcing it | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
-but now we are trying to keep our maintenance in-house. -OK. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
So, we get contractors in, but what we are trying to do is we are | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
trying to build up a nice network of staff in-house, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
-so that we keep it all in-house and do it ourselves. -OK. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
So, we are always looking for new guys to come on board. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
It was important Chris felt the work matched up | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
with his job in the UK, if he was to even consider the move. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
Back in the Yorkshire, Debs worked as a legal secretary | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
and had earned around £17,000 a year. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
But would she be able to match it? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
We sent Debs to a recruitment agency to find out what her job | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
prospects were like. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
-Hello, Cheryl Dobson, how are you? -Pleased to meet you. -Did you find us OK? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
-Yes, I did, thank you. -Come on through. I noticed that you had a good legal background. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
-You've done a lot of legal typing and things like that. -Yes, it's mainly legal area that I work in. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
I've worked in various departments in the legal sector. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-We have a lot of unemployment on the Gold Coast. -OK. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
However, with looking at your skills and experience, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
you shouldn't have difficulty. And I think the thing about the Gold Coast is we've got | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
-so many legal practices here. -Right. -So there's probably a lot of opportunity. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
Salary's another issue. Looking at your resume, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I would probably say anywhere between 40 and AU45,000. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
-OK. -That's probably about the market. -OK. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
At the present. It could go up or down, it just depends. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
That was great news. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
Debs could earn £6,000-£9,000 a year more than in the UK. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Hopefully I'll look forward to seeing you when you move here. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
-OK, that's lovely. Thank you so much for your time. -All the best. Have a safe trip home. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
Thanks. Will do. Thank you. Bye. After seeing Cheryl, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
it's just sorted out everything in my mind because it's always been... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
Not always been about Chris and that I've been left out because I haven't really. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
But it's always been about Chris' job and where he's going to get | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
a job, how he's going to fit in, or what the salary is going to be like. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
So, for me, seeing Cheryl today has just answered 101 questions for me. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:40 | |
Back at the airport, there was unwelcome news for Chris. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Despite his 16 years of experience in the RAF, he would need to | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
pass numerous costly exams to be licensed in Australia. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
The way we work in Australia, you have a CASA license, then you'll either be an airframe engine trade | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
-guy, or you'll be electrical instrument and radio. -Right. -Two separate trades. -OK. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
-Are you an airframe engine guy? -Yeah, airframe engineer. -You'd have to set your core basic exams. -Yeah. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
And then CASA would give you the license specific... | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
So it looks like Chris was going to have to hit the books if | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
he wanted to become a fully licensed aircraft engineer in Australia. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
What effect did that have on his plans? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
If the opportunity came along for me to apply for a job | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
and I got the job, what kind of salary could I expect to earn? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
For unlicensed engineers, around about AU55-AU60,000 a year. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
If you are licensed, that is... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
You are legally able to work on an aircraft, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
you could probably expect the roundabout AU90,000 mark per year. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
I mean, engineers are sought after everywhere. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
If I was to come to you looking to do my licence, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
-I could do the licence in-house? -Sure. Yeah. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
It's a lot of outlay, financial outlay, on our behalf, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
so we would want to see a return of service from the employee. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
So that money is not just thrown away. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
Even as an unlicensed engineer, he'd earn £10,000 more than in the UK. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
So with everything he'd seen, how did he vote? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
I've met the guys, great bunch of guys. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
They've told me about the salary, which is | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
quite a bit more than the UK. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
But I love my job in the UK. I love the guys I work with in the UK. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
So, weighing it all up, I'm going to vote for... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
..Australia. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
With Chris' vote for Australia, Debs' | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
dream of a life down under was a step closer. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
But would they actually be better off living there? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
To help them figure it out, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
we had prepared a breakdown of their everyday living costs. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
So, we've got salary to begin with, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
which was obviously your income and then my income. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
The utilities that we pay out every month are more | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
expensive in Australia than they are in the UK. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
-There's a couple of things that are under. -Hm. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
So now we've got a weekly shop. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
The total for the week for UK is 71.90. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
Then you've got 79. That surprises me. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
I thought it would have been a lot more. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
-We've got property. -OK. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
That would be monthly repayments. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-So that's in pounds. -Mm. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
-£1,137. -Ooh! | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
-That's a lot of money. -More than we're paying now! -Yeah. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
The biggest property we have been to see then, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
-the mortgage payment per month would leave us with £273 a month. -Yeah. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:44 | |
That's not a lot. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Property 3, on the current wage system we're on the minute, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
we can't afford, however after me finding out I could potentially earn | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
double my salary than what I earn in the UK and you can earn more, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
all of a sudden property number 3 comes way in. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
At least now we have a choice | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
whether we want to come to Australia or not rather than being | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
told you can't afford to buy a house and have to stay in the UK. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
Uh-huh. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
Their monthly outlay was much greater than expected. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
But if they both got good jobs, was it still possible? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
So how did this affect their votes? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
It goes without saying we'd have more money in the pot if we | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
were to live in Australia, so based on that, we're going to vote for... | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
-Australia. -Australia. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
To give the Wilsons a taste of the Australian lifestyle, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
we had arranged a day of activities for them, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
starting with a hike with the Slate family, Annalise, John | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
and their two small boys. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
John was originally from Scotland | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
but had moved down under with his Australian family in 2008. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Wow! | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
That's really impressive, isn't it? | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
-Is quite nice behind all the cloud there. -Yeah. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
The Springbrook National Park consisted of over 8,000 acres | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
of tropical rainforest with stunning views of the mountains. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
Chris loved everything about it but Debs, slightly | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
afraid of heights, decided she'd rather hang back. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
It's a lovely view, Debs. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
-We can all vouch for that. -OK, thank you. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
I'm all right here but I just don't like being right on the edge. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
If it gives way, I can just take a step back and they can all go | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
and I will still be here. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Back in the UK, Chris and Debs had an active social life | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
but if they were to move to Oz, they'd be on their own | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
so they went to the local rugby club social to meet | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
some potential new friends. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
The man of the hour, Chris. Harry Lyman, welcome down to the club, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
-mate, how are you doing? -Yeah, not bad, you? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Not too bad. We've got a couple of little fellows lined up for you. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Yeah, so I understand! | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
-See this Fijian fellow here? -Yeah, the small guy. -Yeah. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
-Take him out first, do you reckon? -No! | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
OK, guys, 20 push-ups altogether, on Chris. Chris, you call it. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
Everybody on Chris, listen to him. 20 push-ups, Chris? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Two, three, four, five, six... | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
As Chris's love of rugby was put to the test, there was | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
one big issue that preyed on Debs' mind. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
My thoughts about Australia are probably a bit mixed. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Because even though everybody is really friendly, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
mainly my reservations are about leaving my family, my friends, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
so it's still that big decision of whether we should come out or not. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:41 | |
So we've got a lot to think about but it's definitely the right | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
decision coming over to have a look at everything | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
and see how things are going and yeah, we'll just take it from there. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
Good friends you've known for years can never be replaced | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
and the thought of loved ones was obviously tugging at Debs' | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
heart but would this affect her decision? | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Since we arrived here in Australia we've met a number of people. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
Really friendly. It's a great atmosphere. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
It's really sociable | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
but I can't stop thinking about our friends in the UK. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
And therefore I am going to vote... | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
-UK. -I'm in the middle. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
What are you thinking? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
It's difficult because we need friends out here | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
if we live out here, but we also still need our friends at home | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
because even though we are thousands of miles away, we'll still need them. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
The guys we have met since we came out here are brilliant | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
but I feel like voting for Australia | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
-is betraying our friends that we've got in the UK. -Yeah. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Whether we come or not we are still going to need our friends in the UK. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Yeah. It's just a really difficult decision to make. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
It's definitely difficult to leave people back home. Definitely. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
Erm, yeah... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Erm, there is a few. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
But... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
To be perfectly honest, we don't see a huge amount of each other | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
but it's just that we are always on the other end of the phone. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
I know that would probably happen here but we would be able to | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
phone each other probably just as much but it's really hard. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
Yeah. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
Upset at the thought of those they would be leaving behind, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
it was time to watch messages from friends and family back home. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
-Hello. -Hello, Deborah. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
Hi, Chris. Hi, Debs. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
Hi, Debs and Chris. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Erm, I hope you're enjoying yourselves out there. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
I'm sure you are. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
Chris is a loving, caring brother to me. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
He's funny, he makes me laugh, he makes the whole family life. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
He's very caring, very thoughtful, very loving | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
and very supportive as a son. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
We couldn't ask for a better son to be quite honest. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
We really really good friends, obviously we're sisters | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
but we are best friends. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Basically, she is my soul mate. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
There is a big age difference, 12 years but, erm... | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
I can't do this, sorry. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
-SHE SOBS -I can't speak about her. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Even though we don't see each other often, we're close. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
Erm... She's my baby. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
The dogs are immensely important to Chris and Debs. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
They are big part of their lives | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
and everything is geared round, what they do, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
is geared around the dogs. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
They've been thinking about starting a family for a while | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
but obviously since they started the process of applying for their | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
visas for Australia, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
it's something they have put out to the back their minds. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
I think if Chris and Debs were to have a family, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I would miss my niece or nephew whichever it would be. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Yeah, that would be a big hole in my heart, I think. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
It's Chris and Debs' life in Australia. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
If that's what they want, then I'd have to forfeit a little hug | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
and a cuddle and make up for it when they did see them. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
Like I say, we'd like to form that relationship | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
one way or another so that at least our grandchildren would | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
know, it is grandma and grandad from York. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
I'd just miss everything about them really. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
They're both real close and dear friends so I'd miss them a lot. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
We're also getting married in September. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
-So I'd be absolutely gutted if they were to miss that. -Yeah. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
The thing I would miss most about Debs is well, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
there's not just one thing. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
It's just everything. I'd miss Debs. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
That's it. There's nothing more to say about that. I'd just miss her. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
We're obviously going to miss you. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
But of course it's your life and all Dad and I want is whatever | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
you want and make the most of the life you've got. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
That's all we can say and we wish you both the best. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
Erm, love her to bits. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
Erm... | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
But I just... | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
I can't explain really, it's just because she's ours and... | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
..we just love her a lot. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
It's a long way away. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
It's a long way away. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
They say the world's getting smaller but it's still a long way away. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
You all right? | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
Yeah(!) Mm... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
I am. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
-It's weird, isn't it? -Mm-hm. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
Seeing them on telly. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:41 | |
It's not something you get every day. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
They all said we'll miss you but you do what is right for you. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
-I'm happy that everyone is supportive of what decision we're going to make. -Yeah. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
The thing with Kev about the wedding as well. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
-Yeah, they would be gutted if we couldn't make it. -Yeah. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
I don't know. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
It was the end of the Wilson's trial week in Australia | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
and the outcome was by no means certain. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
Chris and Debs have started full of hope. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Looking forward to being here, seeing everything | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
and finding out what everything is all about | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
and just putting it all together and seeing how that pans out. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
-But the properties had been a let down. -First impressions weren't good. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
-This property is not for us. -No, OK. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
-It's too small. That's it, it's not for us. -Right. Let's go then. -Let's go. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
And the thoughts of loved ones left behind proved too much for Debs. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-I can't do this, sorry. -Erm, love her to bits. She's my baby. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:45 | |
To be perfectly honest, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
we don't see a huge amount of each other but it's just really hard. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
So was the emotional tug of leaving loved ones behind too great | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
or was the chance of a new life in Australia too hard to | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
turn their backs on? It was time for them to vote. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
It's been an amazing, fantastic opportunity coming here, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
the things we have found out and seen. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
It goes without saying that the weather is absolutely | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
fantastic for us and for the dogs. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
We loved it here and we just think it is fab in all aspects | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
and for that reason we are going to vote... | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
-Australia. -Australia. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Yay! | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
At least we agreed on something, haven't we? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
Is that the first time or something? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
But even with the big decision made, saying goodbye was hard to do. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Reservations probably about leaving family | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
and friends behind because everything else for here is | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
just too good an opportunity to miss so best pack your suitcase | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
and save your money because you are coming out for a holiday. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
It was a week of surprises for Chris and Debs | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
but in the end they agreed their future was in Australia. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
So seven years later, it is time to find out | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
if the Wilsons are living at home or away. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
It's 2017 and the Wilsons are living in Perth, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
on the opposite side of the Australia from the Gold Coast. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
When we did our trial week on the Gold Coast over east, yeah, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
we did that, it was really good. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
We got the house valued, didn't we? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
-We thought about it a bit more, I think. -Yeah. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
Then we eventually put on the market and thought it was going to | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
sell straightaway, like everybody does and it didn't. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
No. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Things started to lull a little bit | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
and although we were ready to go to Australia, we couldn't actually go | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
until we had sold the house and then when the house actually sold that was it. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
It was like, yes, we're going. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Then we flew out on February 17, 2012. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
It was strange as well like, putting our notice in for work and that. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
All my friends at work, we were both in really good jobs, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
-really enjoyed them. -Yeah. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
The guys at my work were like, "My God, what are you doing?" | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
You know like, some people talk about doing stuff | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
-and we are actually doing it. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
It was like, walking out that last day at work, you know, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
-we are doing this. -Mm. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
Well, I cried pretty much the whole last day at work. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
I think it had finally hit me. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:31 | |
Once I had left work that was it, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
"Oh God, we're actually going." | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
But since their trial week, the couple had decided on a new destination. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
Going to Perth because we had never been before was a bit of a risk, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
but looking back now, I don't think we even thought about it. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
So we arrived in Perth | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
and we had already arranged with friends who had just moved | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
over here about 10 months before that, they came and picked us up. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:01 | |
While staying with friends for a few weeks, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
they encountered a problem straight away. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
Literally when you went to a rental property inspection where | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
everybody comes at once, there was like 50 or 60 people would go to | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
one house because everybody was looking for a rental. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
In 2014, Perth was in the middle of a rental market boom | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
and competition for suitable properties was tough. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
They have like open half hour houses where you go for half | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
an hour and have a look at the property. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
If you like it you make an application and hand it in. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
So there was probably about 50 people turning up at each rental open house. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
How it works is, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
the estate agent picks what they think are the three best applicants. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
-How you become the best applicants, I don't know. -I don't know. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
Then they give those three to the landlord and the landlord chooses. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Yeah. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
We had maybe been to about 10 and then Chris ended up going | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
with Anne our friend while I was at work. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
I hadn't seen it but Chris had seen it. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
I didn't like it. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
But it was a house so we moved in and I just hated it | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
the whole year that we were there. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
There was just something about the house that I just didn't like. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
The whole situation was making Debs very homesick. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
Debs was quite homesick. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
She was finding it hard. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
The job she was in wasn't really the job she wanted. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
The house we were in wasn't the house she wanted it. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
It kind of puts a bit of a strain on things, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
especially when you are on the other side of the world. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
You haven't really got family to go and see and friends, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
lifelong friends to go and see and talk things through. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
Yeah, that was a hard... | 0:35:58 | 0:35:59 | |
That was a hard time, really, because I was... | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
..I was positive, I was happy, things were going along nicely, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
and, er... Yeah, not so for Debs at the time. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
I kind of had a reality check, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
and it just kind of hit me one day | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
that I was on the other side of the world, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
and it just really turned me upside down. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
So, probably for a good year after that, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
I was, um... | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
Yeah, there was a lot of the time, probably more than Chris knows, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
but a lot of the time, I really could have packed my bags | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
and gone back. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
You know, you've got the pressure of trying to make your own job work, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
trying to, like, get houses sorted so you can pay bills | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
and things like that, and... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
You know, when you've got your wife, who's not with you... | 0:36:47 | 0:36:53 | |
..on the same page, you know, trying to make a life of it here, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
almost makes life unbearable, in a way. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:05 | |
And you've got pressure there, then, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
on yourself to make things work, then the added pressure | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
of trying to help your wife and help her through it, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
and it was hard with my shift work as well, because there was nights | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
where I wouldn't see her and I'd be thinking, you know, is she OK? | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
What is she thinking about? | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
And, you know, it just put a bit of a strain on things, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
and it's one of the things I didn't really factor into, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
when we came out, was... | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
..not the negativity as such, just the... | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
..how hard it was going to be for her. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
And soon afterwards, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
the couple had to deal with even more difficult times. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Quite a lot of people had actually said to us, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
"Are you taking the dogs?" and when we said yes, they were gobsmacked. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
But it was so important for us, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
because the dogs, we haven't got any children, so the dogs are our life. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
So, it was pretty much no, we're definitely taking them, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
there's no two ways about it. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
So, once we started the process, that was it. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
It was like, definitely no doubt at all they were coming with us. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
Unfortunately, a year later, we lost Susie. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
Yeah, lost her in the April, so... | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
And that was, for me, probably the hardest thing I've ever had | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
-to decide to do, because it was our decision. -Mm-hm. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
It is part and parcel of life that, you know, you're... | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
..you're going to live longer than your dogs, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
and you've got to go through it, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
and it's only when that time comes, you realise how hard it is. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
And... Yeah. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
I wouldn't wish that on anyone. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
And, you know, things happen in people's lives back home | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
that you miss out on, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
like, you know, babies were born, people were getting married, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
you know, and you'd see them on Facebook and they were, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
like, doing this, that and the next thing on social media and it's like, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
"Oh, I could have been doing that with them if I was still there." | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
So it kind of pulled at the heartstrings quite a bit. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
So, it did take me a good year, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
year and a half to maybe get my head around, well, life goes on, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
you've made this decision, you're in a fantastic country, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
we're making a go of it, we feel happy, so you've just got to | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
let that side go and just make the most of it when you go home. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
Debs and Chris were still determined to make things work, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
and while looking for a permanent base, they struck upon an idea. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
When we started looking at the houses, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
we didn't really see anything that we liked, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
and the other option you've got out here | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
-is to actually buy land and build. -Mm-hm. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
And because we liked this area, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
that's what we kind of decided to do. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
But we knew we wanted to stay here, didn't we, in Baldivis? | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Because it was such an up-and-coming area that there was so much | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
land, that we knew that this was probably the best place | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
to start building a house and then go from there | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
if we wanted to move to another suburb later on, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
-but we were quite happy in this area, weren't we? -Yeah. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
Like, build your own house, you know, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
cos we don't really get that opportunity in the UK. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
I wasn't... | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
I was up for it, I wasn't saying I didn't want to do it, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
but Chris was definitely more adamant that he wanted | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
to build a house rather than buy an established house. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
When we first got the plans for the house, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
like, all the drawings of each individual room, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
the kitchen was actually over in the dining room area, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
and this was going to be the dining room, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
-but you've got that opportunity... -I remember that, yeah. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
..to turn it around and say, well, would you mind | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
if we put the kitchen over there instead? | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
Like, doing that kind of thing, like, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
messing around with the footprint. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
We moved into this house in March 2015. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
So, it was just over a year from when the foundations went in | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
to moving in. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
The more I remember it, it was like, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
just a brilliant, brilliant feeling of, like, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
building your own house. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
Of course, a new house needs a new dog for housebreaking. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
We decided to get a new puppy in August 2016. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
She's just, like, full of beans all the time, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
and just probably about half an hour before we go to bed, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
that's when she settles down. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
She just loves to play, she's a sprightly little thing, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
she's full of love. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Obviously, we had Susie, we still have Beth, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
and you kind of imagine them all to be the same kind of character, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
but they're not - so, Beth was different from Susie | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
and now Maggie's different from Beth. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
So, yeah, she's just a lovely, lovely dog. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
After building their own house, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Debs and Chris knew Australia was their home | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
and decided to make it official, applying for citizenship. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Yeah, it was really proud, I think, becoming Australian citizens. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
-That ceremony we had with the Mayor... -Mm-hm. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
..it was all, like, doing the oath, and then singing the anthem | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
and things like that. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Putting on a little bit of a do afterwards with the drinks and food, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
it was like a big celebration, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
and then getting the Aussie passports through | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
-and things like that... -Yeah! -You know, it's... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Yeah, it was a proud moment, wasn't it? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
It's almost like, we've done it now, you know? | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
We've made it, we've made it. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
So, do the Wilsons have any advice | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
for anyone considering the move down under? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
At the end of the day, you can always go back. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
If it's really not for you, you can always go back. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
-Life is... -You can be a Ping-Pong Pom! | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
-That's what they call them. -Yeah. -Don't they? -Yeah. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
"Them" - it's us, really, we're Poms, aren't we? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
Don't get started! | 0:42:52 | 0:42:53 | |
But, yeah, so, they'll come over, don't like it for six months | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
or a year, go back again, and then realise that the UK's not | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
what they want it to be, it's not any better, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
so we'll just come back to Australia again. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
-But life is not a rehearsal. -No. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
-You just get one shot at it, so... -You do. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
You've got to do it. Grab it with both hands and do it. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
The Wilsons originally wanted to settle down | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
and build a new life for themselves down under, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
and after a number of years living in Australia, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
they have quite literally done that. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
We wish both Debs and Chris the very best for the future. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 |