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Back in 2015, Sofia Huddart's demanding career

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was taking its toll on family life.

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I feel I'm missing out a lot on the kids growing up.

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We have gone times where it's been almost two weeks

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before Sofia's actually seen the kids.

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She felt a new start in New Zealand could be the answer.

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Most of what people say about New Zealand

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seems to be very positive.

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When a week dipping their toes into Kiwi life

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showed just how much was on offer...

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I've certainly fallen in love with it. I mean, it's idyllic!

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..was it enough to convince husband Nik

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to leave his beloved London behind?

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I was up late last night and my brain was whizzing,

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thinking of things. We could quite happily stay in London.

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But where are the Huddart family now -

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in the UK or New Zealand?

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Around 1,000 miles long and 300 miles across at its widest,

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New Zealand's a nation roughly the same size as the UK.

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But with only a 14th of the population of Britain,

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there's plenty of room to roam.

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Boasting stunning, varied landscapes,

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the country's been a magnet for British emigrants since the 1800s,

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and latest figures show 7,000 UK citizens

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start a new life there every year.

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Hard-working mum Sofia believed New Zealand would offer her

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the family time she desperately needed.

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But while dad Nik agreed things needed to change,

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he worried that abandoning what they'd achieved in the UK

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could be too big a risk.

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And so we sent the Huddarts to New Zealand for a trial week

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to see if that risk was worth taking.

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It was the Huddarts' first ever visit to New Zealand,

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and they travelled for over 24 hours

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from London to Auckland via Singapore.

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Eventually touching down,

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the family were exhausted after a day's travelling,

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and Nik had certainly had an eventful flight.

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Both flights were long, but it wasn't too bad,

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apart from Aliza throwing up on me just before landing in Singapore,

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so I got off at Singapore smelling of sick.

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And all three of them finally slept for the last hour of the flight.

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-I had a big nap, didn't I, Daddy?

-You did have a big nap, yeah.

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Sofia had already worked out her priorities for the coming week...

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The most important thing for me to find out is basically can I work here?

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If I can't work, then everything else just kind of falls apart, really.

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..while Nik knew this could be his family's only shot

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at determining if the country could become their new home.

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The most important thing this week is to find out if we can live here.

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Because it's such a long way,

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we can't really come and do it again.

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Sofia was raring to go.

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This will be exciting!

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The trial week would show if New Zealand could give her

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the family time she so deeply desired.

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Back in 2015, the Huddart family were from London.

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They were dad Nik, mum Sofia, five-year-old Aliza,

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Izzie, who was nearly two, and Idris, who was three.

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Having lived in London for over ten years,

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Nik thrived on life in the city.

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The thing about London is, you know, you can do anything you want.

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You meet so many different people from all walks of life

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and all sort of different countries that it's just...

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I find it a great place to live.

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-He absolutely adores London.

-It was Dr Johnson who said,

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"When a man is tired of London, he's tired of life."

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After a career in IT,

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Nik had spent the last two years as a stay-at-home dad,

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which gave him more time to enjoy the city

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and polish his domestic skills.

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It is almost a complete sort of traditional role reversal.

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You know, Sofia's dinner will be ready by the time she gets back.

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I'll have done the washing and everything else, and the house is tidy.

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You know, I even make cupcakes. It's ridiculous.

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You know, I'm swapping recipes with children's mums outside,

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baking cakes for school sales.

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Nik's transformation into a househusband

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has also allowed Sofia to concentrate on her medical career.

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I specialise in anaesthetics,

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so my job involves putting patients to sleep for operations.

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That's the long and the short of it.

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-And then waking them up again.

-Well, yes.

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That's kind of the other important bit of it!

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She was passionate about her job, but the shifts were demanding.

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My average working week is a 48-hour week.

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We don't really get away much less than that.

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It's a long week. Some weeks, it's just, you know, she's home,

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you know, for tea-time, or just after tea-time.

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There's other weeks where she's, you know, back incredibly late

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and then working the weekend.

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And the long hours were putting a strain on family life.

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We have gone times where it's been almost two weeks

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before Sofia's actually seen the kids.

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I feel I'm missing out a lot on the kids growing up,

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but certainly with Izzie,

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I went back to work when he was nine months old,

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and I still come back some days and say,

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"Oh, no, he's doing that now." And Nik'll say, "Oh, no, he's been doing it for weeks."

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"OK, fine." So, I've missed that, as well.

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It's not... It's not brilliant.

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After initially looking at Canada, America and Singapore,

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the couple had set their sights on moving to New Zealand.

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Most of what people say about New Zealand

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seems to be very positive from lots of perspectives.

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Neither she nor Nik had ever visited the country,

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but Sofia believed it could be the key to her spending more time

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with Aliza, Izzie and Idris.

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I'd love to see them grow up a little bit more.

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I'd love to spend time with them a little bit more.

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-Go, go, go, go! More, more, more!

-CHEERING

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But while Nik could see some of the appeal,

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he was also more cautious about moving his family to a country

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that they'd never seen.

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I'd love for, you know, the boys to play rugby.

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It'd be great if they could learn to sail, as well.

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I think, by all accounts, the schools are better.

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Having managed to get his foot on the London property ladder,

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he had practical concerns about leaving the city he loved.

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House prices seem to be going up. Is it 13% a year?

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If a move didn't work out and the family returned to the UK,

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Nik knew the door could be firmly closed

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on owning a property in the capital again.

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The way the house prices are going here,

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it's difficult to move back.

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Even for two years, the gulf would be too much.

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If we sold the house, it's almost irreversible.

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Their upcoming trial week would decide once and for all

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if New Zealand was where the family should call home.

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It's a very important week for the both of us

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because it's a one-shot deal. It's, you know...

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Is it 12,000, 14,000 miles away?

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It's a long way. It's a 24-hour flight.

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It's five of us going out there. We're not going to do it again.

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This is not, "Oh, let's just see if we like it this time.

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"We'll go again next year."

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I just want to get it over and done with so I can put it to rest

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and then we can just move on, one way or another.

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And Sofia's job could be the deciding factor.

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I'm hoping that New Zealand will prove to be more,

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yes, I can do my work while I'm at work,

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but then I can come home and I can be with the kids.

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It all hangs off Sofia's job and Sofia's happiness in that job.

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The Huddarts spent their trial week

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in New Zealand largest city, Auckland.

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Their home was a four-bedroom house in Stanmore Bay

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on the Hibiscus Coast,

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just over half an hour north of the city centre.

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After the long journey, their temporary base

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was a sight for sore eyes.

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This is nice! Come on, kiddies! Come on in, kiddies!

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Aliza, Izzie and Idris were soon making themselves at home.

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-Whose room is this, then?

-Ah, that'd be your room.

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Aliza! I think that might be your bed up there.

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I love the bunk bed!

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And Sofia was delighted with one kitchen feature.

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-Telescope.

-Oh, look, the kitchen has an island! Look!

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-I really do like this.

-You've got your island.

-I've got my island.

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I'm quite excited by having an island.

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Upstairs, the view of the Hauraki Gulf impressed everyone.

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-It's beautiful.

-It's beautiful, isn't it?

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-I can see our car.

-You can see our car.

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But more importantly, you can see the ocean.

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Can you see the ocean?

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Let's pull the mattress up and we'll just lay out here!

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-Nice.

-That'd be perfect.

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Keen to explore their new surroundings,

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the family headed to the beach.

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So busy! Idris, come on.

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It's just beautiful.

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And Nik spotted one difference from home straightaway.

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I'm struggling to find any litter. That's what's getting me.

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There's no litter at all round here.

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It's absolutely immaculate. It's beautiful.

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I'm not going to say it. I'm almost sold just on this.

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And the house and its environment had won both Sofia and Nik over.

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I can't, in some ways, believe that we're here,

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except for the fact that I can't get that view outside in the UK.

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This is just perfect. It's just beautiful.

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I could quite happily live here.

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You know, I need to find out if we could afford a house like this.

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As they settled in, Sofia had time to focus on the week ahead.

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There is going to be a change in our family,

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and I don't know in what direction it's really going to take us.

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But she was all too aware that their scenic surroundings

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would only be a feature of their future

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if she could secure the right job.

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So, this week, the most important thing is to find out

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whether or not I can get a job.

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And if I get a job, whether I like said job - hopefully...

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And then it's just a case of,

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"Well, can we get the lifestyle that we want,

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"and can I get the time with family that I want,

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"which I currently don't get in the UK?"

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The next few days would prove once and for all

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if New Zealand could deliver the life the Huddarts desired.

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Home for the Huddarts in the UK was this five-bedroom house

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in East London. The couple bought it in 2011,

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and it still needed some finishing touches.

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We've spent time and money trying to make it ours.

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It's still a little bit of a work in progress, but we like it.

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Living in a terraced house had had some limitations

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for a large, active family.

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The only thing I miss is a sideway where we can take the dirty bikes,

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dirty kids and, you know...

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-Dirty dog.

-Yeah, exactly. This fabled dog I'd like to get.

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This fabled dog that might turn up.

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This meant the couple hoped for something bigger in New Zealand,

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with their £600,000 budget.

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There's no point moving if we're going to end up

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-with a terraced house.

-We'd like a detached house.

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-Detached.

-Five bedrooms.

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A lot of outdoor space for the kids to run around and play football.

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I'd love a swimming pool.

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We need a house with a little bit of a wow factor,

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where you go, "Whoa, this is great."

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And in the kitchen, Sofia?

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Sofia would like an island in the kitchen.

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With an island. It has to have an island!

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To find out what kind of house they could actually have in New Zealand,

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we showed the family three properties -

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two on budget, and a third,

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which could have been their dream home.

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Only after they saw each one did they find out its value.

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For their first viewing, the family headed four miles north

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from Stanmore Bay to the Silverdale area.

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This recently built home was near to numerous beaches,

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and with good schools nearby,

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the area would have been perfect for the Huddarts.

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This is the house, kids!

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Wow! This is the lounge.

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With two of the five bedrooms downstairs,

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there was some speculation over the floor plan.

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Another downstairs bedroom.

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-Aliza, is this house upside down, do you think?

-Yes.

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I think it might be, yeah.

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It's a bathroom. A downstairs bathroom.

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Nik found it all a bit confusing.

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-What's next?

-This is... I don't know what this is.

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Oh, it's like a breakfast room, isn't it?

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Yeah, but where's the kitchen?

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But on further inspection, the light dawned.

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There might be a kitchen... There is sort of a kitchen in here.

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-Ah, this is why hence the granny annexe bit.

-Or maybe not.

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-I am confused now.

-Oh, no, this is a utility room. That's what this is.

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No, no, don't mention the word granny flat!

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While the children played, Nik spotted an area

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which should have pleased Sofia.

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You might like this kitchen.

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That's nice!

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Islands are my thing. Only because it just then means

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that you've got a kitchen big enough to sit one in!

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That explained it.

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Nik eventually found the main bedroom.

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This has to be the last room. Wow!

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-Now, this is more master bedroom-like.

-This is lovely.

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Ah, this is the walk-in wardrobe!

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Right, by a process of elimination, that has to be a bathroom.

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An en-suite.

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-Ah-ha! It is a bathroom.

-It is the bathroom.

-Nice.

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This one doesn't have a tub in it, but, hey.

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With direct access onto a deck,

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it could have been the perfect place to relax.

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-Nice.

-See, you've got the river over there.

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-Yeah.

-And then the sea.

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The couple seemed right at home.

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SHE SIGHS

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I could do this!

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-It's nice.

-No, it is lovely. It is lovely.

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But back inside, the layout still caused concern.

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I'm still not sure about this upside-downness, though.

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-What would you...? I don't understand.

-What?

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What would you use that and this for?

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So, you kind of... I guess you use that as a sort of telly,

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-messy-up area.

-What's this, then?

-And then this is your formal room.

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This house both pleased and perplexed,

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but could the Huddarts afford it with their £600,000 budget?

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-So, what did you say?

-I said 560.

-I said 580.

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-Ooh!

-613,000.

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Well, that was £13,000 over budget.

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That's a lot more than we thought.

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Workable. Maybe.

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Well, it's not too much over-budget. It's workable.

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-It's workable.

-It's just a funny, upside-down layout.

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Oh, well, it's house number one.

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Let's see what else they've got for us.

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The family headed off to view property two.

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It was in the Schnapper Rock area of Albany,

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an easy 20-minute commute into Auckland city centre.

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With a large shopping mall and sports facilities nearby,

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it might have suited the family to a T.

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-Wow!

-Wow, it's a big lounge.

-What do you think?

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-And a telly.

-And a telly.

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-This is much more homely than the last one.

-It is.

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People actually live here, rather than just a show house.

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It feels like someone lives here. It's nice.

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Taking a break, the children were looked after

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by a childminder while Nik and Sofia explored further.

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And, yes, Sofia...

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-More kitchens with islands!

-A kitchen with an island.

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There's two lounges in this one.

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That's what I said - it's more a sort of day room.

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And a cat. Are you OK? Flowers are nice.

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But, though it had an island, the kitchen wasn't sizing up.

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Got a big range, a big range cooker.

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I need a lot more kitchen.

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The main bedroom got a better reception, though.

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And this is the master bedroom.

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-SHE CHUCKLES

-Right, this is a really nice size.

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Until, that was, Nik's attention was drawn

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to a very special lavatory.

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-His and hers sinks.

-It's got a very bizarre toilet!

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-What's wrong with it?!

-No, it's a Japanese, clean-your-bum toilet.

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But it was outside that received Nik's most cutting critique,

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calling time on the garden furniture.

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They have four table and chairs. Is it a pub?

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Finding a perfect home for the Huddarts could be a challenge,

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but was this a property they could have afforded

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with their £600,000 budget?

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-Will we go for it?

-OK.

-All right, 650.

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Ooh! 566.

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-So, it's cheaper than the other house.

-Yes.

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-And it's a nicer area.

-I'm surprised at that.

-OK.

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So, the question is, then,

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if we went slightly up on that budget...

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-What could you get around here?

-..what could you get in Albany? OK.

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For the final property of the day,

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we found what we felt could have been the Huddarts' dream home

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just a 20-minute drive to the east in Rothesay Bay.

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Minutes from the beach, with schools and cafes only a stone's throw away,

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was this the one that would convince Nik leaving London was worthwhile?

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-Can we get down there?

-Yeah.

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The incline of the driveway didn't get the viewing off

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to the best start.

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-Ah!

-Stop.

-I'm never going to get out!

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Inside, Nik kept a tally of the rooms.

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-Lounge number one.

-We're not counting lounges any more.

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-There might only be the one this time.

-OK.

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The bedrooms won approval for their size...

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-Bedroom number one.

-It seems bigger than the others.

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..but it was the main bedroom that got them really excited.

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Wow! OK.

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-Hey, this is a nice room.

-It's a beautiful room.

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This is a proper walk-in wardrobe, but it's quite functional.

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It's not very attractive with all the metal, but it's perfect.

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-It is.

-Ensuite with his and hers sinks.

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His and hers sinks. Yes, I like that.

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Sofia's mood continued to soar when she came face-to-face

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with the kitchen of her dreams.

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-Now, this kitchen has got work space!

-This is a huge kitchen!

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-OK.

-This is beautiful.

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And white rather than black, sort of for the shiny effect.

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-SHE GAPS

-A walk-in pantry!

-No!

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-And the light comes on when you open it.

-Oh, my dad would love this.

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And outside lay the luxury item Nik had been hoping for.

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-HE LAUGHS

-I knew it! It's got a pool.

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That's really special.

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It's not that bad. I'd go in.

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Both Nik and Sofia had fallen for this house,

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but was it within reach of their £600,000 budget?

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Oh, God, I can't even begin to take a guess at this house.

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It's nice, it's got a pool, near the beach.

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-680. I'm throwing out random numbers here.

-OK.

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Go on, then. Tell me.

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708,000.

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1.5 million.

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Yeah, that's still quite a lot out of our budget.

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It is out of our budget. It's not a million miles away from our budget.

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It had been a day of mixed fortune hunting

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for property in the Auckland region.

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Property one's layout was far too confusing.

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House number two failed to cut the mustard

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with a pub-style garden and a technological toilet.

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But with its resort-style swimming pool,

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property three really was the dream home, if over budget.

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So, when it came to the vote,

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did the couple choose property at home or away?

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My vote goes to...

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-BOTH:

-New Zealand!

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You kind of guessed that, didn't you?

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-I kind of guessed that.

-Why?

-Why not?

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Well, you liked the houses. It's amazing.

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Well, especially that last house. But with this on your doorstep...

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-I know, yeah.

-With the level of housing we've seen,

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I'd quite easily forget London.

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Despite the initial properties being uninspiring,

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a vote for New Zealand from Nik meant his concerns

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could have been crumbling.

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But it was Sofia's job that had led the family to consider emigrating,

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so securing the right role would be key

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if they were going to make the move.

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Back in the UK, Sofia was the family's sole breadwinner.

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At the time, she was working as an anaesthetist

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whilst training to become a consultant.

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I love my job. Anaesthetists find themselves

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in quite a lot of hairy situations, and for me that's quite nice.

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So, for the most part, everything is calm and going,

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and then you occasionally have sort of little adrenaline rushes where it's all, "Go, go, go!"

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Working around 50 hours a week

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meant she could go days without seeing her children.

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The job is, like, the linchpin.

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If I don't work and I don't have the work-life balance that I want,

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then nothing else is going to work.

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Good luck. Don't forget your bag.

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With the family's future resting on what she would discover,

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Sofia headed out to investigate her work possibilities.

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At Auckland's Southern Cross Hospital,

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she met David Findlow, an expat anaesthetist

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who had been living in New Zealand for 15 years.

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Shall we start with, can I find a job here?

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Well, I've had a good look over your CV.

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If you were hell-bent on Auckland, then the job market is tight.

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And you would probably have to enter the Auckland system

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as a senior trainee, or what we call a fellow.

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And that has implications in terms of lower salaries,

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yet another year of training before you get a consultant job.

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A move to Auckland could have meant a delay for Sofia

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in becoming a fully-fledged consultant.

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But not too fazed, she was keen to find out

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about her potential earnings.

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Salary difference-wise, sort of between the UK and here,

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consultant and fellow?

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The fellows are usually employed

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-on what's called a Medical Officer Scale.

-Yeah.

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Now, the start of a Medical Officer Scale,

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for a basic working week, is 114,000.

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But that can then be bumped up by either on-call

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-or weekend work allowances of about 25,000 more.

-OK.

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-So, that pushes you around 140.

-Yeah.

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And then, on top of that, you have an allowance

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for what's called CME - continuing medical education.

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The total package could have reached £67,000 -

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not far off the £70,000 she currently earned at home.

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Meanwhile, as Nik planned to continue in his role

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as a househusband in New Zealand,

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he took the opportunity to find out about Kiwi education.

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At Stanmore Bay School, he met with principal Carol Abley.

0:22:120:22:16

So, this is our library.

0:22:160:22:18

So, the children come in here for library lessons.

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-I like storybooks.

-Do you?

-You like storybooks?

0:22:210:22:23

Carol explained that the school taught much more

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than just core subjects.

0:22:260:22:28

So, we've got a composting bin, we've got a wind farm,

0:22:280:22:31

we grow our own vegetables, and we've got an orchard.

0:22:310:22:34

Nik was impressed with what he saw.

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The way that school was put together,

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the way the children behaved, all the outdoor stuff -

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it's far better than I thought.

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Back at the hospital, Sofia was getting down to the crunch.

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Would working in New Zealand mean more time at home?

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-What's an average working week?

-The days can be reasonably long.

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So, a typical in-theatre session would start at 7.30am,

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and then a full day's list is scheduled to finish at 4.30pm,

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-but as you well know, the unpredictability is such...

-Yes, the unpredictability.

0:23:060:23:10

Long days were exactly what Sofia was trying to escape.

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She asked David how he found the difference in work-life balance

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since moving to New Zealand.

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Certainly, in medicine, I don't see any great difference.

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What you do with the life element of your work-life balance, of course,

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is very different. The main positive difference between,

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for me, between New Zealand and Britain when I first came over here,

0:23:340:23:38

it would be in a single word and that would be positivity.

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The attitude of local medical people, on the whole,

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is positive and can-do.

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Back at base, it was time for Sofia to vote.

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Based on the job that I've seen, my vote goes to...

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..New Zealand.

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Based on what I've seen and what I've heard about jobs

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and working life and conditions in New Zealand,

0:24:090:24:12

it seems to be that New Zealand is where I should be.

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Enjoying a rare day out,

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the family took to the water with a sailing lesson on Lake Pupuke.

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The afternoon had confirmed Sofia's thoughts on New Zealand.

0:24:410:24:45

The kids loved being out there on the lake.

0:24:450:24:47

Aliza loved the steering and pulling the boat rests.

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She was really excited. She enjoyed it so much.

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And more than anything else, I think I'm more convinced

0:24:520:24:56

that this is the right thing for us to do.

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When we were on the boat, it was quite funny.

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And I forgot to go down when we turned.

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Nik also seemed to have been won over.

0:25:080:25:11

It's the outdoor lifestyle. It's the Kiwi lifestyle.

0:25:110:25:13

I think, for them, as kids,

0:25:130:25:15

I think it's very important that we make this move.

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And the hold London had on him seemed to be slowly weakening.

0:25:180:25:21

And the one thing that has surprised me this week

0:25:210:25:23

is how much I like Auckland. It's beautiful.

0:25:230:25:26

It had been a fun day out for the whole family,

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and it was time to discover, when it came to lifestyle,

0:25:290:25:32

if everyone was sold on what New Zealand had to offer.

0:25:320:25:35

We've had a great day out in New Zealand, so our vote goes to...

0:25:350:25:39

Turn the card! Keep turning!

0:25:390:25:40

-Undecided.

-New Zealand!

-New Zealand!

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-Outnumbered.

-I was outnumbered. Didn't expect that one, did you?

0:25:500:25:54

-Go on, then.

-For the family,

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for seeing the joy on the kids' faces and you on the boat,

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-it has to be New Zealand.

-Yeah. But?

-For me, it's slightly undecided.

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I really loved it. The kids had such a good time,

0:26:030:26:06

other than the slight rain that came in and out.

0:26:060:26:08

-SLIGHT rain?

-But it came and it went, unlike London,

0:26:080:26:11

where it would just be there for the whole day

0:26:110:26:13

and we'd be stuck inside the house.

0:26:130:26:14

A day out together had shown the couple

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New Zealand could be the ideal place to raise their children.

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They just needed to see if they could afford

0:26:280:26:30

the lifestyle they'd fallen for.

0:26:300:26:33

Sofia and Nik sat down to compare the cost of living

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in New Zealand with the UK.

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Their calculations were based on the first property they saw.

0:26:370:26:42

-The difference in the mortgage bill?

-£599 more expensive.

0:26:420:26:45

-Did we really need a calculator for that?

-Yeah.

0:26:450:26:48

Transport costs. UK is 300. Here is 150.

0:26:480:26:52

-So, that's 150 less.

-Really?

-Yeah.

-OK.

-That's surprising.

0:26:520:26:56

-586.

-586 more expensive.

-Yeah, actually, that makes sense.

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In total, the couple would be spending around £7,000 a year more

0:27:020:27:06

in New Zealand.

0:27:060:27:08

Which is, to be fair, mostly mortgage.

0:27:080:27:11

When Sofia's potential salary was taken into account,

0:27:110:27:14

the picture improved, but not by much.

0:27:140:27:17

-287.

-Yeah.

0:27:180:27:21

The family would be around £3,500 out of pocket each year

0:27:210:27:26

should they choose to move to New Zealand,

0:27:260:27:28

but they both felt it was a shortfall they could overcome.

0:27:280:27:31

-It's all the mortgage. OK.

-Yeah, it's mostly the mortgage.

0:27:330:27:36

-OK?

-Which is not impossible.

0:27:360:27:38

-It's not impossible.

-Even though I needed a spreadsheet!

0:27:380:27:42

The overall financial picture didn't seem to have caused much concern,

0:27:420:27:46

so would that mean another clean sweep

0:27:460:27:48

as they prepared to vote on finances in New Zealand versus the UK?

0:27:480:27:52

Based on the finances that we've seen today,

0:27:520:27:55

our vote goes to...

0:27:550:27:57

-New Zealand.

-Undecided.

-Really? Why?

-I don't know.

0:28:030:28:08

I just couldn't quite decide

0:28:080:28:10

whether we'd be better off or worse off here.

0:28:100:28:13

There was nothing in there that was unworkable.

0:28:130:28:14

-I kind of have to mull it over a little bit longer.

-OK.

0:28:140:28:17

While Nik had been the one to voice practical concerns about the move,

0:28:210:28:25

the financial realities seem to have given Sofia a moment to waver.

0:28:250:28:29

The emotional cost also needed to be considered.

0:28:290:28:32

After first discussing it with the children,

0:28:320:28:35

they all sat down to watch messages from friends and family together.

0:28:350:28:39

Hi, Sofia, Nik and kids!

0:28:400:28:45

Hi, Nik and Sofia!

0:28:450:28:46

-Papa!

-Papa.

0:28:460:28:48

Hi, Nik. Hi, Sofia. Hi, kids.

0:28:480:28:50

As a family unit - very, very close.

0:28:500:28:53

Sofia is very capable. A very good mother.

0:28:530:28:57

She's got a one-track mind - she gets to where she wants to get.

0:28:570:29:02

Nik is probably one of the kindest and nicest boys.

0:29:020:29:05

-"Boys." I'm still a boy!

-You're still a boy.

0:29:050:29:07

She works really, really hard. She's a fantastic mother.

0:29:070:29:12

Nik is a wonderful father.

0:29:120:29:15

He looks after the children very well.

0:29:150:29:17

-The children love him.

-Hello!

0:29:170:29:20

They're really good fun, actually. Similar to Nik and Sofia,

0:29:200:29:24

they're quite outgoing and loud and noisy, but just lovely.

0:29:240:29:27

Very full of cuddles and fun and good to be around.

0:29:270:29:31

Obviously, we'll be very sorry to see them go,

0:29:330:29:37

particularly to see them growing up.

0:29:370:29:40

Now, we make about

0:29:400:29:42

12 hours' journey to the UK.

0:29:420:29:44

From here to New Zealand,

0:29:440:29:46

it's probably about nine hours.

0:29:460:29:48

So, I guess we could see them more!

0:29:480:29:52

I'll miss seeing the children grow up,

0:29:520:29:55

and I'll miss Nik calling.

0:29:550:29:57

It's up to you. It's your decision.

0:29:570:29:59

If you do decide to go

0:29:590:30:02

to New Zealand,

0:30:020:30:03

I think you'll be quite happy with that.

0:30:030:30:06

No, we wish you the best of luck

0:30:060:30:09

in whatever you do, and God bless.

0:30:090:30:13

It's a great opportunity, so...

0:30:130:30:15

We really miss you, but we'll save up

0:30:150:30:19

and we'll be coming out to see you guys.

0:30:190:30:21

Yeah. Do the right thing for you, and if you do move,

0:30:210:30:24

get another hot tub, put it in the back garden,

0:30:240:30:26

-and we'll see you there.

-You can have mine, Matty!

0:30:260:30:29

I will miss you. I'll miss you loads and loads.

0:30:290:30:31

You know that.

0:30:310:30:33

But I'm sure you'll make it for the best decision,

0:30:330:30:36

you know, for yourselves. So, have fun,

0:30:360:30:39

and maybe we can come and visit if you do decide to stay!

0:30:390:30:45

You know that I will totally miss you,

0:30:450:30:47

but I think that our family bonds and our love for each other

0:30:470:30:52

will transcend distance and time zones.

0:30:520:30:56

So, have a great time there.

0:30:560:30:58

As I thought, mostly positive and supportive of whatever...

0:31:000:31:03

There was no-one saying you shouldn't do it. It was all...

0:31:030:31:05

They're all trying to get rid of us, I think!

0:31:050:31:08

I think Matty wants the hot tub.

0:31:080:31:10

See, if we sell the house to Matty...

0:31:100:31:11

-He can have the hot tub.

-Yeah!

-I'm not shipping the hot tub out!

0:31:110:31:14

If we can rent it out to Matty and then we'll eventually

0:31:140:31:17

-sell it to them, we'll be all right!

-That's not a bad idea.

0:31:170:31:19

I thought there'd be more weeping in there.

0:31:190:31:21

I thought there'd be more sadness. "Please don't go."

0:31:210:31:23

-Wailing and gnashing of teeth.

-Really?!

-Yeah, I thought...

0:31:230:31:26

I think we deserved a bit more than that!

0:31:260:31:28

Setting foot in New Zealand for the first time,

0:31:370:31:39

Sofia had been hoping it would provide the answer

0:31:390:31:42

to issues at home, and the country had certainly worked its charms.

0:31:420:31:46

I've certainly fallen in love with it. I mean, it's idyllic!

0:31:480:31:51

Nik, too, had fallen under its spell.

0:31:530:31:56

This week has gone far better than I thought.

0:31:560:31:58

It's just been lovely. We've got a beach like this

0:31:580:32:00

100ft from our doorstep, and it's clean and it's beautiful

0:32:000:32:04

and families are playing happily. It's just wonderful.

0:32:040:32:07

One of Sofia's main worries had been that

0:32:070:32:09

her husband's love of London would stifle the dream.

0:32:090:32:12

I've been giving, you know, my love of London

0:32:120:32:15

and my thinking of moving a lot of thought this week.

0:32:150:32:18

I was up a little late last night and my brain was whizzing,

0:32:180:32:21

thinking of things. We could quite happily stay in London.

0:32:210:32:24

Sofia felt she had made real progress on persuading him.

0:32:260:32:29

I think I've gotten him over that barrier.

0:32:290:32:32

I think there is more for us that we could do as a family

0:32:320:32:34

outside of London.

0:32:340:32:36

But it had not all been plain sailing.

0:32:370:32:40

Learning her working hours wouldn't get any better in New Zealand

0:32:400:32:43

came as a disappointment.

0:32:430:32:44

But the week had shown Sofia the move could reap other rewards

0:32:440:32:48

for the whole family.

0:32:480:32:50

The reasons that I think I'd like to come here have changed slightly.

0:32:500:32:54

Cos, initially, it was more for me and work and things like that,

0:32:540:32:58

but, actually, now it's become more about the kids.

0:32:580:33:00

It was time to take their final vote

0:33:010:33:03

and decide on life in New Zealand or the UK.

0:33:030:33:07

We've had a great week here in New Zealand

0:33:080:33:10

finding out lots of things, discovering more about New Zealand.

0:33:100:33:12

So, our final vote goes to... Go!

0:33:120:33:15

-ALL:

-New Zealand!

-New Zealand!

0:33:210:33:24

THEY LAUGH EXCITEDLY

0:33:240:33:28

That is definitely a New Zealand flag!

0:33:280:33:30

Why do you want to live in New Zealand, Idris?

0:33:300:33:32

-Because I like the sea.

-You like the sea?

0:33:320:33:35

And why did you vote New Zealand, Aliza?

0:33:350:33:37

Because it's so tidy and neat

0:33:370:33:39

and people put their rubbish in the bin!

0:33:390:33:41

-They put their rubbish in the bin!

-That feels really good.

0:33:410:33:45

I've finally weaned him off London enough that he would move away.

0:33:450:33:50

It's a difficult lifestyle not to love.

0:33:500:33:52

And I think it forces you to be outdoors,

0:33:520:33:54

it forces you to enjoy the outdoors.

0:33:540:33:56

It's all the stuff, you know, that I think we'd like doing.

0:33:560:33:58

Although Sofia would be required to still put the working hours in,

0:34:030:34:07

both her and Nik agreed the improved lifestyle

0:34:070:34:10

New Zealand could offer their family was more than enough to compensate.

0:34:100:34:15

But in the end, did the Huddarts decide to risk everything

0:34:150:34:19

by making the move down under?

0:34:190:34:21

It's 2017, and the Huddarts are in

0:34:220:34:25

Auckland, New Zealand, and they've barely touched down.

0:34:250:34:29

We've been here six months now.

0:34:290:34:32

We have been here six months. We came at the end of November.

0:34:320:34:35

When we got back to the UK after being here last time,

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all we could do was wait,

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because Sofia had to finish her registrar training

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as an anaesthetist before she could apply for a job out here.

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And then we had to wait for either a consultant job to be posted,

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or your current fellowship job to be posted,

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which wasn't advertised until March 2016.

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Yeah. So, we had to kind of wait for that.

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We were just telling people, "Yes, we're planning on going,

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"but I have to finish and get a job and all the rest of it."

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And then once the job came through, which was about...May time,

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May, June time, suddenly, it was all systems go -

0:35:120:35:15

house being sold, packing up.

0:35:150:35:17

As soon as Sofia got the job, we divided the labour.

0:35:170:35:22

Sofia dealt with the visas and the job.

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I dealt with houses, schools and the moving company,

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and then selling the house, which we sold in a day...

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..before Brexit.

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And then they pulled out two and a half months later.

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Then we sold again in a day. Then that couple split up.

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We had an offer, yeah.

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And then the third buyer offered us a lot less, but cash,

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so we accepted them.

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And then the day before I flew out from the UK with the kids,

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cos Sofia stayed on for a bit, they dropped the price,

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and so we sold it for less than we wanted to, but it's sold.

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But selling the house was only half the challenge.

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The Huddarts now had to look for a home in New Zealand -

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not straightforward when you're 10,000 miles away.

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Getting a property over here was never easy.

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Cos everything's advertised online,

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you've got a 13-hour time difference,

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so trying to ring them is difficult.

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And you'd see a property which looked nice,

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but then I'd e-mail the estate agent saying,

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"We're interested in this property," and I'd get one e-mail back saying,

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"You must see the property first."

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So, we found one property - this one -

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and I wrote the e-mail to the lady and she said, "Give me a ring."

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Her main question was, "What if you don't like it?"

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I said, "Well, that's my bad."

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So, she sent me other pictures, and it looked really nice.

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We knew the area.

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So, then what we had to do was write a letter

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to say why they should give it to us,

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why we were a nice family, and referees.

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-We haven't rented a house for ten years.

-I know.

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Luckily, my old landlady is a friend of mine,

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so she wrote a reference.

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We gave the estate agent as a reference.

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-And your work was a reference.

-Yeah, my work was a reference.

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11 people saw this house. Ten people wanted it.

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So, then we had the send over 5,000 Kiwi dollars to get the house.

0:37:080:37:13

-Not having seen the house!

-Not seen the house.

0:37:130:37:16

So, we arrived here on Tuesday. We stayed at a hotel down the road.

0:37:160:37:20

Came here Wednesday to pick up the keys

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for the house that we'd given 5,000 for.

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And, luckily, we liked it. So, it was a bit of a gamble,

0:37:250:37:28

but what that meant was that we already knew

0:37:280:37:31

which school they were going to go to.

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So, as soon as we had the tenancy agreement,

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two days after flying in, we went to the school.

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We arrived on the Tuesday.

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We went to the school on the Thursday.

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And the kids were in the next day.

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Got uniforms. Spent 500 on uniforms on the Friday.

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And then they started school on Monday.

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They had two weeks before Christmas, which was great,

0:37:490:37:52

and it got them back into the swing of things.

0:37:520:37:54

And just how are the children settling in?

0:37:540:37:56

I think the kids are loving things here.

0:37:560:38:00

Izzie wants to be a Kiwi kid cos he doesn't wear shoes.

0:38:000:38:04

-You can tell...

-He's like, "I'm a Kiwi kid today."

0:38:040:38:06

You can tell the Kiwi kids cos they don't wear shoes.

0:38:060:38:09

They don't wear shoes at school.

0:38:090:38:10

Idris is out playing tennis. They're both doing swimming.

0:38:100:38:14

Idris wants to play all the sports that are available.

0:38:140:38:17

Yeah, they do hockey and other sort of variety of sports on a Tuesday.

0:38:170:38:22

Wednesday, they've got swimming.

0:38:220:38:23

-Thursday, they're allowed the day off.

-Yeah.

0:38:230:38:25

Friday, he's got tennis.

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And then if you've got a spare five minutes,

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you can go to the beach or go to the playground.

0:38:290:38:31

-It's just great.

-Mm.

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So, a few months in, how are Nik and Sofia adapting

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to the Kiwi way of life?

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We've got a camper van. That's part of the dream.

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We went away to a little place called Miranda,

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which has hot springs. So, we stayed at a campsite.

0:38:440:38:46

They had a hot pool on the campsite.

0:38:460:38:49

Had a trampoline, had loads of stuff for the kids.

0:38:490:38:52

The kids were cycling around the campsite, which was great. Everyone was really friendly.

0:38:520:38:56

Just a really nice place to be.

0:38:560:38:58

And then we packed up, came back the scenic route along the coast,

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got back home, unpacked the camper van,

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and it's about four o'clock on a Sunday.

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And then we thought, "Hang on, let's go to the beach,"

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which, in London, or wherever in the UK,

0:39:100:39:12

is a massive undertaking.

0:39:120:39:14

We just, "Let's go to the beach." So, we got there about five o'clock.

0:39:140:39:17

We go away on weekends. Even if I'm working,

0:39:170:39:20

because there's a couple of weekends when I've been working,

0:39:200:39:22

and Nik will just take the camper van out

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to one of the local regional parks and park the camper van up

0:39:240:39:27

and I'll just drive up when I'm finished at work.

0:39:270:39:29

And how is the crucial work-life balance for Sofia?

0:39:290:39:34

My situation now is that I'm a fellow,

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which is basically what they call a senior medical officer,

0:39:370:39:40

down at North Shore Hospital, which is literally, what,

0:39:400:39:43

five minutes down the road in the car?

0:39:430:39:45

Which is brilliant. Most days, I actually come back

0:39:450:39:49

and I can have dinner with the kids, I can help Nik with bed and bath,

0:39:490:39:52

which was difficult and probably...

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What, two, three nights out of four, I wouldn't be there for that?

0:39:550:39:58

And there would be full weeks

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where I would sort of leave for work so early,

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then I'd come back so late, that I would barely see the kids

0:40:020:40:05

unless they came in. And that's not so much of an issue now

0:40:050:40:08

because I do see them before bed,

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and I can sit and help them with homework and stuff,

0:40:090:40:12

which is really lovely.

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Unfortunately, it's not been all smooth sailing with Sofia's work.

0:40:130:40:17

At the moment, the job that I have is for one year

0:40:170:40:20

and it will finish in December and I'm on a job hunt at the moment.

0:40:200:40:24

Been for a job interview today for a permanent post

0:40:240:40:26

over at the Auckland City Hospital.

0:40:260:40:28

So, I'll hear about that in a week, so fingers crossed.

0:40:280:40:32

You know, well, Sofia needs to get a job so we're here permanently,

0:40:320:40:36

cos the visa is hanging off her job at the moment,

0:40:360:40:39

in the hope of staying here.

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If it doesn't work out here,

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I would definitely consider other parts of New Zealand, as well.

0:40:430:40:47

The kids are pretty settled here,

0:40:470:40:49

so, ideally, it would be nice not to have to move them.

0:40:490:40:52

But, on the other hand, as we said, it's an adventure,

0:40:520:40:54

so I don't mind moving wherever things take us.

0:40:540:40:58

I know Nik is very keen on it being...

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But it would need to be another permanent move.

0:41:000:41:02

I don't want to keep moving them round the country.

0:41:020:41:05

I know Nik really wants to know

0:41:050:41:07

where we're going to spend this Christmas.

0:41:070:41:09

At the moment, without being too melodramatic,

0:41:090:41:11

-if our visa status doesn't change on our passports...

-Yeah.

0:41:110:41:14

..and Sofia doesn't get a permanent job,

0:41:140:41:17

we're on a plane home in January.

0:41:170:41:20

So, all this furniture has to go back,

0:41:200:41:23

that camper van has to be sold,

0:41:230:41:25

which could be a real stupid purchase if we have to go home.

0:41:250:41:28

-Ah, well.

-The kids will be uprooted. We don't know where we're going.

0:41:280:41:31

We should just gypsy ourselves round the world to nice places.

0:41:310:41:34

It'd be fantastic, but Nik really doesn't like this idea.

0:41:340:41:37

We've put a lot of...

0:41:370:41:38

Invested a lot of time and a lot of effort,

0:41:380:41:41

a huge amount of emotion, into New Zealand,

0:41:410:41:43

and research into New Zealand.

0:41:430:41:45

And it suits us. We like living here.

0:41:450:41:48

-We like the people.

-We do.

-We like the climate.

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Parts of the Caribbean are nice.

0:41:500:41:52

But despite this concern,

0:41:570:41:59

there doesn't seem to be any regrets about the move.

0:41:590:42:02

It's definitely the right move.

0:42:020:42:04

There's been no question from any of us that this was, you know,

0:42:040:42:07

a wrong move. It's definitely the right move to make.

0:42:070:42:10

As I say, the concern is making that move permanent.

0:42:100:42:14

Generally, I think we're all a bit happier.

0:42:140:42:17

Well, are we happier? We're more relaxed about it,

0:42:170:42:20

and just able to spend some time.

0:42:200:42:21

And I have to say, even though I was a bit opposed to the idea,

0:42:210:42:24

I actually really enjoy the camper van!

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SHE LAUGHS

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I just didn't see the point of spending shedloads of money

0:42:290:42:31

on this camper van.

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But it has been really nice.

0:42:330:42:36

The best thing about being here?

0:42:360:42:38

It's not one thing. I think it's everything.

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I think, if I put it down - and I keep saying this -

0:42:420:42:45

it's that people are more smiley.

0:42:450:42:47

There's 4 million people here, compared to 62 million in the UK

0:42:470:42:51

and everyone's got a little bit more time,

0:42:510:42:53

it's a little bit more friendly. It just all adds to it.

0:42:530:42:56

You know, sometimes, the weather is absolutely awful.

0:42:560:42:58

You know, it can rain for days,

0:42:580:43:00

and it can rain more rain than I thought was possible.

0:43:000:43:02

It can be more windy than I thought was possible.

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But then a day like, you know, we had yesterday,

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where the sun was out and it's the middle of winter,

0:43:080:43:10

it's just stunning.

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The Huddarts' dream is well and truly underway,

0:43:140:43:17

and whilst there's still some uncertainty

0:43:170:43:20

about how things will turn out,

0:43:200:43:22

the one thing they are sure of is that New Zealand is home.

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We wish the entire family the very best for the future.

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