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Ten years ago, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Lee Ramoth was prepared to pack up for a life down under, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
but wife Lauren had her feet planted firmly in the UK. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
I just thought, "Well, why do we want to leave this and move to the | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
"other side of the world when what we've got going on here is great?" | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
Fast forward to 2016... | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
I am desperate to go. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
For me, it's just not really an option at the moment. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
..the shoe was on the other foot. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
But during the trial week, who was persuading who? | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
So if I'm not convinced, how can I then try and convince you? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
So where are the Ramoth family living now? | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
In the UK or Australia? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
With an average temperature of 22 degrees Celsius, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
and more than 10,000 beaches to enjoy the sunshine, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
it's not hard to understand why Australia's a magnet | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
for Brits seeking a new life down under. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
But life on the other side of the world | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
doesn't always live up to the dream, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
and latest figures show almost half of those | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
making the move return to the UK. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
Ten years ago, Lee Ramoth tried to convince wife Lauren | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
their life would be better on the other side of the world. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
Then the tables turned, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
and Lauren tried to persuade Lee to give up a successful business | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
and close family ties in the UK to pursue the future | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
he once dreamt about in Australia. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
But was this just a case of the grass is always greener? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
We decided to send them down under for a trial week | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
to see if it was just that. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
The journey to Perth | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
took the Ramoths nearly 9,000 miles from home, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
and after almost 20 hours in the air, they felt the distance. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
The flight was really quite long. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
It took a whole day and night. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
Having finally reached Australia, Lauren had mixed emotions. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
I'm really, really, stupidly excited that we are actually here, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
but I feel that there's also quite a fair bit of pressure on me | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
because I've built it up into something really special, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
and if it doesn't materialise into that, then... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
And Lee was filled with anticipation. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
It's really got to show everything that I'm going to be able to afford | 0:02:29 | 0:02:35 | |
to give my kids and my family the lifestyle that they so deserve. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
The following seven days will determine | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
which side of the world the family's future lay. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
The Ramoths were dad Lee, mum Lauren, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
at the time eight-year-old Noah and Lulu, who was five. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
They hailed from Leeds in Yorkshire. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Lee first dreamt of moving down under ten years ago. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Back then, though, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
Lauren was disinclined to ditch her comfortable life in the UK. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
We had a nice house, a nice car each, both had a steady income, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
so I just thought, "Well, why do we want to leave this and move to the | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
"other side of the world when what we've got going on here is great?" | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
Lee's dream was put on hold. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Two years on, however, recession hit. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Just months into a new carpet-fitting job, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Lee was made redundant and had no choice but to set up on his own. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
Going self-employed was a massive risk. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
I wasn't sure how I was going to get work | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
and I didn't know what I was doing from one day to the next. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
With a young family now in tow, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:38 | |
the couple saw little prospect for a future in the UK. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Thoughts turned once more to Australia - | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
this time, with Lauren on board. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
When you have kids, your mind-set changes. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
The more that I researched into it, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
the more I liked the idea of emigrating. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
With a view to securing a job down under, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Lauren returned to university to study midwifery, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
but with just one wage coming in and Lee's business struggling | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
to get off the ground, things hit rock bottom. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
It really was hard, and we really were hand to mouth. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
I think when it really did it for me was having a week | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
where I only had £30. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
The next two years were tough, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
but while Lauren was busy upping her skills, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Lee had a breakthrough in the flooring business with his. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
I've hit a bit of a niche in the market which has made me | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
get really busy here. I don't have to go out and look for work. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
The work's there all the time. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
With business booming and Lauren then working full-time as a midwife, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
cash flow concerns were a thing of the past, but there were sacrifices. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
So when I'm at home, he's not, and vice versa. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
We seem to have fallen into this pattern | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
where we're like passing ships. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Lee's long hours and Lauren's shift patterns | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
left little time for the children. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
I feel sorry for them. It's either always the mum or the dad. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
It's not really fair, it's not family time. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Their relationship was feeling the strain, too. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
I can't even remember the last time that we went out | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
and did something, and that's really quite sad. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
So Lauren decided enough was enough. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
I don't think that's something that I could cope with long-term, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
and it isn't something that I want to continue on with. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Determined to improve the situation, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
she pushed to get the Aussie dream back on track. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
I am desperate to go. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
I think that it would be the best opportunity for us as a family. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
But having sown the seeds ten years ago, Lee was now refusing to yield. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
It's taken a lot of hard work to get to where I am, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
and now for Lauren to want me to get rid of all that | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
and start again, is it a gamble? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Yeah, it's a massive gamble. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
And it wasn't just work stopping Lee. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
His parents moved back at the time from Cyprus | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
to be with their grandchildren. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
There's only me with kids, and to take their grandkids | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
away from them... | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
..is... It's just... It's not something I'm wanting to do. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:14 | |
If we live in Australia, I'm going to miss my granny and grandpa | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
and grandma and grandad. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
But Lauren was determined things had to change, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
so Lee agreed to give Australia a go, albeit reluctantly. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
I feel extremely pressured that I'm the one ultimately | 0:06:26 | 0:06:32 | |
holding our lives and futures in my hands, really. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:38 | |
I'm the one that's been pushing it like crazy for it to happen, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
and if things don't pan out the way that I hope, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
then that could just potentially upset everything. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
The Ramoths spent their trial week in Perth, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
capital of Western Australia. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Home for the week was the coastal suburb of Mindarie, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
just 30 minutes north of the city centre. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
It was getting dark as the family arrived, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
but did the week get off to the bright start Lauren was hoping for? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
Oh, wow. This looks nice, doesn't it? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Wow! | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
-Wow! -Very nice. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
It's lovely and modern, it really light and bright, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
there's loads of space, absolutely loads of space. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
It's more than big enough for us. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
Things were off to a positive start, and Lauren was banking | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
on the trial week reviving Lee's old vision of a life down under. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
Obviously, we have got some common ground, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
so there must be something there for us to kind of reignite, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
to try and help push it forward. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
It was my dream ten years ago right up till... | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
you know, maybe two years ago. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
If it just doesn't quite cut it, though, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
I'm afraid the dream could be over. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
Back in the UK in 2016, the Ramoth family lived | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
in a three-bedroomed semidetached house outside Leeds. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
I love this house. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
I think it's been really good to us. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
It's taken us a long time to get it to how we wanted it to look. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
The couple had a budget of £250,000 | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
and mixed opinions on what they wanted. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
You know, main concern is a good area for schools for the kids. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
I'd compromise on the size of property | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
-and everything else just to have the right... -Would you? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
..area. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Really? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I'm not sure how I feel about that. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
This house is not the biggest, but I wouldn't want anything any smaller. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
No, no, no, no. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
That was Lee told! | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
So what was on Lauren's wish list? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Four good-sized bedrooms, I'd love another bathroom. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
I am just absolutely sick of fighting for the bathroom. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
And for Lee? | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
Cos I do the cooking in the house, I would like a big island so I can | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
still look out onto the family and things while I'm doing the cooking. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
I think I'm ready to move into something | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
that I wouldn't have to do anything with. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
To find out what kind of house they could have in Australia, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
we showed the family three properties - | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
two on budget and a third which could be their dream home. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Only after they saw each one did they find out its value. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
House-hunting began in Clarkson, just five minutes from the ocean | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
and a half-hour commute to central Perth. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
This modern four-bedroom home | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
should have had the space the Ramoths were looking for. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
That looks nice, doesn't it? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
A good start, but inside was a different story. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
I'm not a big fan of walking straight in from the outside | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
straight into somewhere to sit. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
I would have hoped for it to be a little bit different. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
I think our house is better than this house. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Not quite the reaction Lauren was hoping for, but did things improve? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
-This is a nice space, isn't it? -I like this kitchen. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-Look at the lights on the kitchen! -Ooh, they're a bit posh. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Got a good dining space. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
That was more like it, but on closer inspection... | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
I'm not sure about these tiles. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
I think kind of terracotta-y colour is not my thing. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
It looks a bit cheesy. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
-It's a bit dark. -I'm not feeling the vibe at the moment. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
-I don't think it's right for us. -No, I'm not feeling it. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
As Lulu and Noah headed off with a childminder | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
to do much more interesting stuff, Mum and Dad continued the tour. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
-All right, yeah. Bedroom one. -Oh, this isn't too bad a size, actually. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
Bit lighter in here. Could you imagine our stuff in here? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
No, I think you get a feel for a place. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
It either works or it doesn't, and I just don't think it'd work for us. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
In spite of having the required four bedrooms, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
this house just wasn't hitting the spot with the couple. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
But did the outdoors lift their spirits? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-It's a nice outside space, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
I mean, to be fair, the garden is actually a really good size. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
-Not sure about the big metal box, though. -Yeah. It is quite private. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
Yeah. It's definitely not overlooked. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
The garden may have had more appeal, but was it enough? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
If I'm expecting you to make a move to Australia, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
what happens if this is all we can afford? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
I'm actually really worried at the moment. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
I wouldn't want to leave home for this. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
So you're saying this is a deal-breaker, you wouldn't move? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
I wouldn't move, no. No. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
This property fell far short of Lauren's dream home, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
but was it over their £250,000 budget? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
I think it's going to be pretty much at the top of our budget. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
I think you're looking around £245,000. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
I think it's going to be worth about £213,000. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
I think I'd be devastated | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
if I found this was all that we could get for our money. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
239,000. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
It was £11,000 under budget, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
but a lot more than Lauren was hoping it would be. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
-I feel a bit disappointed. -I'm pretty close, I'm pretty close. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
Yeah, you were right. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
I think the only bonus is that we're not quite | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
at the top of our budget, so I'm just hoping and praying | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
and keeping everything crossed that that was enough to make | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
a significant difference as to what we could get. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It wasn't a great start. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Property two was in Quinns Rocks, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
a popular residential suburb 23 miles north of Perth. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
Did this modern new-build help get Lauren's dream back on track? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
-Ooh, it's got a lovely big drive. -It has, yeah. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
Look at the front garden as well. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:55 | |
-Right, kids, shall we get out and have a look? -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Right. | 0:12:58 | 0:12:59 | |
Wow, look at this space. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Ah, this is more like it. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
It feels more light and airy, doesn't it? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
And it's got more of a modern feel to it. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
It's much lighter than the other property. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
It looks better than the outside of it. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
And with that, Lulu and Noah decided they'd had enough | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
of real estate for one day. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Mum and Dad explored further. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
The kitchen diner had plenty of room for the family. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
It's definitely got the potential, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
whereas I don't think the first property had that. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
-But again, you see, it does depend on budget, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
It's definitely a positive step in the right direction, I think. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
But it wasn't long before things went downhill. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Oh, this is small, this is really small. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I feel a bit deflated again. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
I take it this must be the en suite! | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
Do you want me to look round first and then I'll let you? | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Oh, my gosh. That is teeny! | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
-I'll just squeeze round here. -Oh, no, that's ridiculous. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
No, that-that is ridiculous. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Once again, though, the outside area impressed. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Yeah, this is a lovely size. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
I've got absolutely no complaints with this at all. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
It gave Lee food for thought. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Is there any room to make it any bigger? | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
I don't know, but then that's not going to be cheap, is it? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
From the outside, it looks ideal. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-It's just the inside. -Yeah. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
But it is what it is. I think now I'm just worried about the price. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
The couples had misgivings about this house, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
but was it somewhere they could afford, anyway, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
with their £250,000 budget? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Let's just get this over with. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
-Let see how much it is. Put me out of my misery. -Right. Will do. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
£250,000! | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
It was bang on budget. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Oh, I'm actually quite relieved. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
-You're quite relieved? -Yeah. -It's kind of what I thought. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
Yeah, it's not really... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
-It's not game over just yet? -It's not game over. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
For the final stop of the day, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
we found what we thought could be the Ramoths' dream home. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
Like the first place, it was also in Clarkson. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Did this four-bedroom, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
two-bathroom house finally deliver the wow factor that was needed? | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
-Nice so far. -Feeling happy? | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Feeling happy? Yeah, looks lovely. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Straight away, things were looking up. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
-Got a proper hallway! -Yeah. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-This is more like it. -This is lovely. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
This is just everything that I was expecting. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
-Yeah, this is huge. -My gosh. This is lovely. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
And it's really open. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
Ah, no, this is perfect. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
The kitchen had the contemporary feel Lauren was looking for. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
Yeah, this is definitely what I'd envisaged. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
The layout was perfect for chef Lee. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
You've got definite kitchen, dining, living, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
but it's all open still. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
There is no comparison between this and the other two houses. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
This is in a completely different league. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Yeah, it's just ready straight away to move into. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Yeah, and that's exactly what we wanted. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Lauren was blown away by this house, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
and it looked like a turning point for Lee. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
If we could afford a property like this, definitely, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
I think you've got me on board. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Things continued on a positive note in the main bedroom. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
Oh, my gosh, wow. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Now this is definitely a good master bedroom. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Oh, look, there's the ensuite. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Oh, my gosh, there's a walk-in wardrobe! | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Oh, lovely. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
And with three other good-sized bedrooms, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
the couple were very impressed. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Honestly, it's just getting better and better | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
-the more that we look at it. -It's just ticking the box is, isn't it? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
I'm ready to move in. Shall we? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-Hold your horses! -Oh, yeah, we need to see if we can afford it yet. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
With an outside to match the interiors, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
the couple were on cloud nine. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
But, with their £250,000 budget, could they afford it? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
I honestly think that this is going to be well over our budget. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Yeah, I'm kind of hoping that you're wrong. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
I'm going to pluck a figure out and say 280. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
I think that it is going to be somewhere around the 300,000. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
So shall we get this over with and see how much it costs? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
I feel a bit sick. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
OK. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
-Oh, wow. -Oh, my God. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:44 | |
£314,000. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
That was £64,000 over budget. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
That is considerably over our budget. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-That's way over budget. -Yes. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
I mean, I know that we can't afford that, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
so I'm struggling to be convinced that we've got an affordable option | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
with housing, so I think if anything, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
that's going to make my task of trying to convince you even harder, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
cos if I'm not convinced, how can I then try and convince you? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
It was a day of mixed results. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
House number one was below budget, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
but it lacked the charm to convince Lee to make a move. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
Although affordable, property number two left little room for manoeuvre. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
The final house, though, was a complete show stopper, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
but with a price tag to match. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
So when it came to homes in Australia, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
how did the couple cast their votes? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Based on the properties that we've seen today, our vote goes to... | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
-..UK. -UK. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
Although the final property was a really nice one, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
it was just way too much over budget. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
I wouldn't want to move to Australia based on properties one and two, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
and I loved property three, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
but like you say, it's well out of our price range. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
We need to see what the rest of the week brings. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-This is just the first hurdle to overcome. -Every cloud, yeah. -Yeah. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
It was a very shaky start, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
and Lauren knew, to afford a home down under, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
they would both need good jobs. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Back in the UK, Lee ran his own bespoke flooring business. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
I go in-house and design the floors with the customer. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
It's kind of put me in a different league, which has worked, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
and it's paid dividends back already. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Lauren was the main visa applicants. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
Having retrained as a midwife, she was hooked on her job. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
I think with midwifery, and nursing, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
they are the type of jobs that you have to have a passion for. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
Lauren was confident about finding work down under, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
but worried for Lee. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
With Lee's particular occupation, it really is unknown territory. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
For me to have to take this and start all over again in Australia, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
it's not something that I want to even contemplate at the moment. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
If he doesn't find suitable work, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
then he will absolutely not be on board for wanting to make the move. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
To check out job opportunities for the couple, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
first up, we arrange for Lauren to visit Joondalup Health Campus, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
where she was met by expat midwife Michelle. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
At the time, Lauren was with the NHS, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
but a move could see her transferring | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
to the private sector down under. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I moved over from the public system into here. I've had no regrets. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
Any problems at all, you go straight to the consultants. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
We don't have any junior doctors here. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
So it does seem to be quite different from the UK, then? | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
It is, but not in a negative way. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
It sounded encouraging. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Meanwhile, across town, Lee met up with expat Kevin, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
-who owned a flooring business in Perth. -Hi, how are you? Kevin. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Lee was anxious to know | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
if there was a demand for his kind of skills down under. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
We've been doing floors here for nearly 11 years. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
There's so many new houses getting built all the time. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
It gets that busy that most companies | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
can't handle the work that they've got. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
No shortage of work, then. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
How would it work for somebody like me, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
coming out on my wife's visa, to just branch out on my own? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Most of the businesses in Perth that do floors | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
actually subcontract work out. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
That was exactly how Lee worked back home. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
If you've just arrived from the UK, and you don't know the market | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
or you don't know enough people, there is people like myself, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
there would be the option available to you to take full-time employment. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
That was Lee reassured. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Back at the hospital, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
Michelle filled Lauren in on what kind of hours she might expect. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
Earlies are 7:00 till 2:30. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Late shifts are 2:00 till 9:30 | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
and a night shift is 9:00 till 7:30 the next morning. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
That's four-and-a-half hours less | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
than the shift pattern Lauren worked in the UK. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
It does sound that that work/life balance here in Australia | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
is definitely more achievable. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
And Lee's working hours? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
I tend to work six days a week and anywhere from 10 to 14 hours a day. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:19 | |
What are your kind of working hours? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-An average eight-hour day, three o'clock. -Eight hours? -Yeah. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-Right. Good? -If it's a Friday, probably finish at 12. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
But it's, er... Truthfully. Truthfully. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Lee couldn't quite believe what he was hearing. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
That's why we're here. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
You don't want to be working 12 hours a day, six days a week | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
if you can avoid it. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
-Especially if you've got a young family. -Yeah. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
But what about the salaries? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
You'd come in as a level one nurse/midwife. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
And that equates to around 68,000 a year | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
before any accruements or any extra shift penalties. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
At £36,000, that was almost £10,000 more than Lauren earned in the UK, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
but what about Lee? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
A five-day week where you're working every day, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
you've got a job every day, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
you'll be looking at about 100,000 annually | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
so maybe in pounds, I think it's about £50,000 or something. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
-Close to that. -Yeah, brilliant. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
That was an increase of approximately £15,000 a year. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
News he couldn't wait to share with Lauren. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
Come on, put me out of my misery. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
What happened with you? I've been thinking about you all day. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Right, with the skills that I've got, I would definitely find work. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
The money side of it, kind of looking at about 100,000. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
-A year? -A year. -That's amazing. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
I think it's made me feel a whole lot better that everything | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
could fall into place for us. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
No prizes for guessing how this vote went. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
Based on what we've heard today about the jobs, our vote goes to... | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-BOTH: -..Australia. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
Everything that I've heard today has just ticked every box. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
It is a bit of a no-brainer. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
We can have a family life and still have a good living as well. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
A united vote for Australia breathed new life into Lauren's dream. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
But would a day tasting the lifestyle down under | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
end with the same result? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
The family spent their day at an open farm. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
I guess that this is how baby goats cry. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
SHE WHIMPERS | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Do you think so? Yeah. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
After a quick tour, it was time to get hands on. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Put it on your hand like this. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
Here you go. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Awe, lots of little ones as well. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
That bunny is just railroading everybody out of the way. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Days like this were few and far between back home. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
I don't get to see half of this type of thing. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
It's normally Lauren taking the kids. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
It's just perfect for me to spend a bit of time with them. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Next up were the guzzling goats. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Look at all the milky froth around their chops. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Feels like driving a car off a cliff! | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
The goats were being very greedy. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
I liked it a bit but they kept on nearly head-butting me. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
-Was it a good day out, Lulu? -Yeah. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
I think days like today when Lee can see how lovely it can be | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
when the whole family is together | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
and we can enjoy spending time as a family and enjoying the kids, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
it does help bring us a step closer to obviously helping to convince Lee | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
that the move to Australia would only be a positive thing. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
So when it came to lifestyle, was it home or away? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
-Australia. -Australia. -Australia. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Noah, why did you vote for the UK? | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Australia. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
Everything's just been great today, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
spending time with the kids, just going out as a family. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
These are the sort of things we don't get to do in the UK. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
With a clean sweep for the Aussie lifestyle, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Lauren's dream was well on course. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
But for life down under to become a reality, the figures had to add up. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:26 | |
We had prepared a comparison of expenses to help them | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
work out the difference between cost of living in Perth and the UK. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
First up, was the weekly food shop. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
-Chicken breast fillets. -That's 50. -£10 in the UK. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
£9.50 in Australia. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
-So that's £7.56 per week... -..more expensive. -..more expensive. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:51 | |
So over all, monthly, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
we're out of pocket by £32.76. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
That's not too bad. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
The monthly food bill was over but manageable. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
But what about the other costs of living down under? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
The couple based their calculations on the dream property they saw. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Back in the UK, they had a small mortgage. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
In Australia, it would have almost tripled. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
So it goes from £380 a month to £974. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
That's a massive amount. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:21 | |
So, adding everything up, were they better or worse off in Australia? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
That gives us £760.44... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
-..more expensive... -..more expensive. -..in Australia. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
The figures were daunting, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
but both Lee and Lauren could earn more down under. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
Still we're better off... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
..by £291.63 per month, based on property three. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:51 | |
That's approximately £3,500 better off per year down under. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
So how does that make you feel? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
It just means that we can afford to live here in the dream home. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
A really nice house. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Dream home and dream lifestyle, but was it a dream result? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
Based on today's financial information, our vote goes to... | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
-..Australia. -..Australia. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
I think, overall, it's going to be Australia all the way. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
Mm. I think you're right. It's a win-win. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
Lauren was almost home and dry with her mission to move, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
but there was one final hurdle to overcome. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Lee made it clear he would struggle with breaking strong ties at home. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
While Lulu and Noah spent time with a childminder, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
the couple sat down to watch a DVD of messages from home. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
-Hi, Lee and Lauren. -Hi, Lee. Hi, Lauren. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
-Hi. -Hi. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Hi, guys. I hope you're having a good time down there. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Lee's a really patient guy. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
He's always been very, very thoughtful. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
Lauren is, um... | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
I would say she would describe herself as high maintenance. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
True story. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
Lauren and Lee are a really good couple, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
they're really supportive of each other. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
It will be strange especially | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
because Lee has always put my carpets down for me. I'll miss that. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
All our family, he has. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
That'll be a big wrench from me now | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
having to go somewhere and pay full price for carpets. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Oh, Joan! | 0:29:40 | 0:29:41 | |
I do love to be with the kids. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
They are very, very precious to me, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
always have been and always will be. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
They'll be missed, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
especially birthdays and Christmas times and things like that, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
it will be hard not having them around the house. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
They have been good friends over the last 10, 15 years, particularly. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
I would wish them well and hope that they're very happy there. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
It won't be the same round here without you, definitely not. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
We all know that. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
We just want you to know we'll miss you lots, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
miss the kids more than anything growing up, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
we wish you all the luck in the world | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
and have a fantastic life if you do decide to go. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
I hope the decision you make is the right one, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
but I'm sure everyone be happy for you, whichever decision you make. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
I'll always miss them. I just... | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
You know, it's upsetting, really. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Um... | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
Oh, God that was really hard. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
I didn't think your mum and dad were going to get that upset. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
No, well, I kind of expected it from my dad but not from my mum. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
I think it just hits home what you are going to be leaving. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
Emotionally, there's a lot. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
Messages from friends and family | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
provided Lauren and Lee with a heartfelt reminder | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
of what they'd be giving up if they made the move. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
It's hard to know which way to go. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
I think the biggest wrench is the emotional one. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
I think that's something that he really would struggle with. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
Even now, still every five minutes, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
I still keep sort of changing my mind. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
I'm just hoping that he's completely on board | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
and that he is coming round to my way of thinking | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
that it's the best possible move for us and the children. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
It was time to decide where the Ramoths | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
would spend the rest of their lives. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
-ALL: -Australia. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
-Did we all vote for Australia? -We all voted Australia. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
ALL CHEER | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Doing things like this on the beach, spending time with the family, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
if we could have days like this on a regular basis then, yeah, why not? | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
Let's do it. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
I'm just really, really happy that everybody else in the family | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
has now seen what I've seen for a long time | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
and you've finally got on board with this decision. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Their time in Perth had been enough to rekindle Lee's ten-year-old dream | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
for a life in Australia and secure, for Lauren, the future she wanted. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:40 | |
But 12 months down the road, has their enthusiasm | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
for a life-changing move turned into a reality? | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
It's 2017 and the Ramoths are living in Perth. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
And they got their just eight months after their trial week. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
When we were here for that week, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
I was amazed at how much I felt like this could be home, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:06 | |
pretty quickly. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
When he voted for Australia, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:09 | |
it really was the beginning of the adventure | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
and it definitely marked a new chapter in our lives. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
And then, I think, not only me | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
but we were both really excited about what the future could hold. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
After their trial week, they spent time looking at the suburbs | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
of Perth in order to choose the best area for them to live in, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
then returned to the UK to prepare for the final big move. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
We acted so quickly once we got back | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
because we'd spent such a long time talking about it, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
dropping the idea, picking it back up, dropping it, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
and revisiting it time and time again | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
that we once we flipped those cards | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
and we decided that we did want to move to Australia, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
it was a case of, "Well, we've spent such a long time | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
"deliberating this decision, now that we've decided, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
"let's not waste any more time, let's just set the ball rolling." | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
Get home, get house up for sale and let's get out of here. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
But whilst they were anxious to get the ball rolling, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
they hadn't anticipated how fast it could go. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
We found ourselves in this position | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
where, within a couple of weeks of it being up for sale, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
we had first-time buyers with a mortgage in place | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
that offered us pretty much the asking price | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
and because they were in rented accommodation, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
they were pushing for a quick sale, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
so that only took six weeks and the house was sold. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
The day that we were moving out, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
was also the day that the shipping company were coming | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
to pack all our furniture up. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:40 | |
That morning, we'd got notification from the visa bureau | 0:34:42 | 0:34:48 | |
that our visas were granted which, again, was so fast. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
Lee's mum and dad very kindly offered us Lee's old bedroom back | 0:34:53 | 0:35:00 | |
to stay for a few months until we left for Australia. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
And, as nice as they were, it's really hard leaving your own space | 0:35:04 | 0:35:11 | |
that you've had for such a long time | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
to then go and live in somebody else's space. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
So let's just say it was quite character building. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
It was whilst they were staying with Lee's parents | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
that reality began to hit home. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Did we have time to think about it much? | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Not really, not until... | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
..the house was sold and we'd moved into my mum and dad's, then... | 0:35:34 | 0:35:40 | |
..there were a couple of times | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
that we were sat up in my old bedroom... | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
..saying to each other, "Have we done the right thing?" | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
We used to sit and have the conversations in your old bedroom, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
in your mum and dad's house, and we were saying, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
"Let's move to the other side of the world, we've got no jobs, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
"nowhere to live, we're on limited funds, this is a great idea." | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
Yeah, it's a great idea. With kids. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
-Yeah, and a dog. -And a dog. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
When it came to the morning of their departure, however, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
things were much more subdued. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
On the actual day when we did say goodbye, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
it was really, really hard | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
to the point where everybody was in floods of tears. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
-It was awful. -Mm. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
We actually had other families from the street come out to wave us off | 0:36:37 | 0:36:44 | |
and they were crying and all our families were crying. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
-And it was just... It was really bad, wasn't it? -Mm. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Yeah, it was... | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
It was very emotional. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
I suppose when you're saying goodbye to people, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:07 | |
you know, it isn't just for a few weeks, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
-it is going to be for a long period of time. -Mm. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
Then there's been other people... | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
..that I've said goodbyes to and I probably won't ever see them again. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:27 | |
The emotional upheaval of such a move is immense. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
But there was no turning back at this late stage, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and the Ramoths were bound for Australia. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
-The flight was just awful. -The flight was awful. -Awful. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
It took 27 hours. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
27 hours. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
I remember Noah saying, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:51 | |
"This is the worst week of my life. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
"Why did we moved to Australia?" | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
I'm like, "Sorry, Noah." | 0:37:56 | 0:37:57 | |
Yeah, I like it. The only thing I don't like about it - | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
mosquitoes, scorpions, like, really venomous spiders. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:06 | |
Luckily, we don't have the adder from the UK here. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
I was really worried about how they would cope | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
and how they would adapt, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
but I think that you forget how resilient kids are. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
They just slotted right in. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
And I think I probably took on the worry for everybody, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
-but they were fine. -They were fine, yeah. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
I have friends which are Bobby, Ollie | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
and a few others which are Mark, Mason, Christian. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:41 | |
My friends are Sofia, Kaya, Kayla, Ella and Lacey. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
And there are few more called Chase... | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
I like Australia because in England it was really cold | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
but in Australia it's kind of warm here. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
And a lot more, just a lot more. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
The priority was to find a home, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
but that in itself proved troublesome. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
We were in this holiday rental for couple of weeks. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
The biggest issue was finding a rental | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
because we'd been checking which properties were available | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
prior to coming over and I don't know what happened | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
but, as soon as we landed, they just all went. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
They all got leased literally overnight. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
The only ones that were left | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
were the ones that nobody wanted to live in | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
and that's why they were still left. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
So it went down to the wire, didn't it? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
We couldn't extend the holiday let any more | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
because they had people coming in after us. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
And then, by some pure stroke of luck, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
we were approved on this house and we signed and we got the keys. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
The following day, we moved in. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
The container with all our belongings arrived | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
and then, the day after that, our dog arrived. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
So it was just... | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
We managed to squeeze in so much in such a short space of time. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
But time was against them when it came to finding work. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
I'd been in touch with a few shops over here in Perth... | 0:40:12 | 0:40:19 | |
..to set up some interviews, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:26 | |
maybe try and line a couple of jobs up | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
just so they can see what I can do. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
One particular person that Lee had been speaking to online | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
prior to coming over, he managed to help him get his foot in the door | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
and get his face shown, really. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
So I'm working on quite a nice big five-star hotel, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:53 | |
this building just here. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
When starting in a country like this, starting a new job, | 0:40:55 | 0:41:01 | |
you've got to get yourself established, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
and in order to do that I've had to work some longer hours, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
but I think as we settle down into a routine here, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:14 | |
we will be having those early finishes | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
and I can spend some time with the kids and the wife. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
And, yeah, we'll get some quality time back again. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
Lee's long hours, however, prevented Lauren from accepting | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
a permanent job offer in a hospital due to childcare issues. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
So, for more flexibility, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
she signed on with an agency, with unexpected results. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
The agency work, it's been a blessing in disguise | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
because I really, really enjoy it and it means | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
I get to work at different hospitals, different ward settings. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
So there's a lot of variety and two shifts are generally never the same. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
And I don't have to get involved in the ward politics, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
the issues of the ward, | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
I can just turn up, do my job, do it well and then leave. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
And that's really good. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
And there's a silver lining for Lee as well. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
The benefit of doing all the hours | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
and, you know, persevering, getting on with the job... | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
..is the wages. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
I would say it's double what I was on in the UK | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
and from what I can gather that we've got here to do, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:31 | |
it's only going to get better than that. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
And what about the future? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
We're at a stage where we seem to be coming out of the fog | 0:42:34 | 0:42:40 | |
and the uncertainty and things are taking a more settled balance. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
That, in turn, it gives us reassurance | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
that everything will be OK, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:48 | |
because if we've had to deal with all of this | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
in such a short space of time, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
then I think we'll be all right. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
I think that we'll just continue on as we are doing | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
and, in time, things will only get better. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
The Ramoths' move down under occurred at breakneck pace, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
leaving them almost breathless. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
And, in spite of the few speed bumps they experienced on the way, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
they have truly made Australia their home. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
We wish them all the very best for the future. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 |