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Ten years ago,

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Lee Ramoth was prepared to pack up for a life down under,

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but wife Lauren had her feet planted firmly in the UK.

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I just thought, "Well, why do we want to leave this and move to the

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"other side of the world when what we've got going on here is great?"

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Fast forward to 2016...

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I am desperate to go.

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For me, it's just not really an option at the moment.

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..the shoe was on the other foot.

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But during the trial week, who was persuading who?

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So if I'm not convinced, how can I then try and convince you?

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So where are the Ramoth family living now?

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In the UK or Australia?

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With an average temperature of 22 degrees Celsius,

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and more than 10,000 beaches to enjoy the sunshine,

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it's not hard to understand why Australia's a magnet

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for Brits seeking a new life down under.

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But life on the other side of the world

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doesn't always live up to the dream,

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and latest figures show almost half of those

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making the move return to the UK.

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Ten years ago, Lee Ramoth tried to convince wife Lauren

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their life would be better on the other side of the world.

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Then the tables turned,

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and Lauren tried to persuade Lee to give up a successful business

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and close family ties in the UK to pursue the future

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he once dreamt about in Australia.

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But was this just a case of the grass is always greener?

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We decided to send them down under for a trial week

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to see if it was just that.

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The journey to Perth

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took the Ramoths nearly 9,000 miles from home,

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and after almost 20 hours in the air, they felt the distance.

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The flight was really quite long.

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It took a whole day and night.

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Having finally reached Australia, Lauren had mixed emotions.

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I'm really, really, stupidly excited that we are actually here,

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but I feel that there's also quite a fair bit of pressure on me

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because I've built it up into something really special,

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and if it doesn't materialise into that, then...

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And Lee was filled with anticipation.

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It's really got to show everything that I'm going to be able to afford

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to give my kids and my family the lifestyle that they so deserve.

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The following seven days will determine

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which side of the world the family's future lay.

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The Ramoths were dad Lee, mum Lauren,

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at the time eight-year-old Noah and Lulu, who was five.

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They hailed from Leeds in Yorkshire.

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Lee first dreamt of moving down under ten years ago.

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Back then, though,

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Lauren was disinclined to ditch her comfortable life in the UK.

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We had a nice house, a nice car each, both had a steady income,

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so I just thought, "Well, why do we want to leave this and move to the

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"other side of the world when what we've got going on here is great?"

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Lee's dream was put on hold.

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Two years on, however, recession hit.

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Just months into a new carpet-fitting job,

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Lee was made redundant and had no choice but to set up on his own.

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Going self-employed was a massive risk.

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I wasn't sure how I was going to get work

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and I didn't know what I was doing from one day to the next.

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With a young family now in tow,

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the couple saw little prospect for a future in the UK.

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Thoughts turned once more to Australia -

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this time, with Lauren on board.

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When you have kids, your mind-set changes.

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The more that I researched into it,

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the more I liked the idea of emigrating.

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With a view to securing a job down under,

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Lauren returned to university to study midwifery,

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but with just one wage coming in and Lee's business struggling

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to get off the ground, things hit rock bottom.

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It really was hard, and we really were hand to mouth.

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I think when it really did it for me was having a week

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where I only had £30.

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The next two years were tough,

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but while Lauren was busy upping her skills,

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Lee had a breakthrough in the flooring business with his.

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I've hit a bit of a niche in the market which has made me

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get really busy here. I don't have to go out and look for work.

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The work's there all the time.

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With business booming and Lauren then working full-time as a midwife,

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cash flow concerns were a thing of the past, but there were sacrifices.

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So when I'm at home, he's not, and vice versa.

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We seem to have fallen into this pattern

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where we're like passing ships.

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Lee's long hours and Lauren's shift patterns

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left little time for the children.

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I feel sorry for them. It's either always the mum or the dad.

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It's not really fair, it's not family time.

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Their relationship was feeling the strain, too.

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I can't even remember the last time that we went out

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and did something, and that's really quite sad.

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So Lauren decided enough was enough.

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I don't think that's something that I could cope with long-term,

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and it isn't something that I want to continue on with.

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Determined to improve the situation,

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she pushed to get the Aussie dream back on track.

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I am desperate to go.

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I think that it would be the best opportunity for us as a family.

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But having sown the seeds ten years ago, Lee was now refusing to yield.

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It's taken a lot of hard work to get to where I am,

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and now for Lauren to want me to get rid of all that

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and start again, is it a gamble?

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Yeah, it's a massive gamble.

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And it wasn't just work stopping Lee.

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His parents moved back at the time from Cyprus

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to be with their grandchildren.

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There's only me with kids, and to take their grandkids

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away from them...

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..is... It's just... It's not something I'm wanting to do.

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If we live in Australia, I'm going to miss my granny and grandpa

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and grandma and grandad.

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But Lauren was determined things had to change,

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so Lee agreed to give Australia a go, albeit reluctantly.

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I feel extremely pressured that I'm the one ultimately

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holding our lives and futures in my hands, really.

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I'm the one that's been pushing it like crazy for it to happen,

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and if things don't pan out the way that I hope,

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then that could just potentially upset everything.

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The Ramoths spent their trial week in Perth,

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capital of Western Australia.

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Home for the week was the coastal suburb of Mindarie,

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just 30 minutes north of the city centre.

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It was getting dark as the family arrived,

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but did the week get off to the bright start Lauren was hoping for?

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Oh, wow. This looks nice, doesn't it?

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Wow!

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-Wow!

-Very nice.

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It's lovely and modern, it really light and bright,

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there's loads of space, absolutely loads of space.

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It's more than big enough for us.

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Things were off to a positive start, and Lauren was banking

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on the trial week reviving Lee's old vision of a life down under.

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Obviously, we have got some common ground,

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so there must be something there for us to kind of reignite,

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to try and help push it forward.

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It was my dream ten years ago right up till...

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you know, maybe two years ago.

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If it just doesn't quite cut it, though,

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I'm afraid the dream could be over.

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Back in the UK in 2016, the Ramoth family lived

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in a three-bedroomed semidetached house outside Leeds.

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I love this house.

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I think it's been really good to us.

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It's taken us a long time to get it to how we wanted it to look.

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The couple had a budget of £250,000

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and mixed opinions on what they wanted.

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You know, main concern is a good area for schools for the kids.

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I'd compromise on the size of property

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-and everything else just to have the right...

-Would you?

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..area.

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Really?

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I'm not sure how I feel about that.

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This house is not the biggest, but I wouldn't want anything any smaller.

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No, no, no, no.

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That was Lee told!

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So what was on Lauren's wish list?

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Four good-sized bedrooms, I'd love another bathroom.

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I am just absolutely sick of fighting for the bathroom.

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And for Lee?

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Cos I do the cooking in the house, I would like a big island so I can

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still look out onto the family and things while I'm doing the cooking.

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I think I'm ready to move into something

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that I wouldn't have to do anything with.

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To find out what kind of house they could have in Australia,

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we showed the family three properties -

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two on budget and a third which could be their dream home.

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Only after they saw each one did they find out its value.

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House-hunting began in Clarkson, just five minutes from the ocean

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and a half-hour commute to central Perth.

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This modern four-bedroom home

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should have had the space the Ramoths were looking for.

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That looks nice, doesn't it?

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A good start, but inside was a different story.

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I'm not a big fan of walking straight in from the outside

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straight into somewhere to sit.

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I would have hoped for it to be a little bit different.

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I think our house is better than this house.

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Not quite the reaction Lauren was hoping for, but did things improve?

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-This is a nice space, isn't it?

-I like this kitchen.

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-Look at the lights on the kitchen!

-Ooh, they're a bit posh.

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Got a good dining space.

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That was more like it, but on closer inspection...

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I'm not sure about these tiles.

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I think kind of terracotta-y colour is not my thing.

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It looks a bit cheesy.

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-It's a bit dark.

-I'm not feeling the vibe at the moment.

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-I don't think it's right for us.

-No, I'm not feeling it.

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As Lulu and Noah headed off with a childminder

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to do much more interesting stuff, Mum and Dad continued the tour.

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-All right, yeah. Bedroom one.

-Oh, this isn't too bad a size, actually.

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Bit lighter in here. Could you imagine our stuff in here?

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No, I think you get a feel for a place.

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It either works or it doesn't, and I just don't think it'd work for us.

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In spite of having the required four bedrooms,

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this house just wasn't hitting the spot with the couple.

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But did the outdoors lift their spirits?

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-It's a nice outside space, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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I mean, to be fair, the garden is actually a really good size.

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-Not sure about the big metal box, though.

-Yeah. It is quite private.

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Yeah. It's definitely not overlooked.

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The garden may have had more appeal, but was it enough?

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If I'm expecting you to make a move to Australia,

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what happens if this is all we can afford?

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I'm actually really worried at the moment.

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I wouldn't want to leave home for this.

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So you're saying this is a deal-breaker, you wouldn't move?

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I wouldn't move, no. No.

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This property fell far short of Lauren's dream home,

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but was it over their £250,000 budget?

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I think it's going to be pretty much at the top of our budget.

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I think you're looking around £245,000.

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I think it's going to be worth about £213,000.

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I think I'd be devastated

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if I found this was all that we could get for our money.

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239,000.

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It was £11,000 under budget,

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but a lot more than Lauren was hoping it would be.

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-I feel a bit disappointed.

-I'm pretty close, I'm pretty close.

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Yeah, you were right.

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I think the only bonus is that we're not quite

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at the top of our budget, so I'm just hoping and praying

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and keeping everything crossed that that was enough to make

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a significant difference as to what we could get.

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It wasn't a great start.

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Property two was in Quinns Rocks,

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a popular residential suburb 23 miles north of Perth.

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Did this modern new-build help get Lauren's dream back on track?

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-Ooh, it's got a lovely big drive.

-It has, yeah.

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Look at the front garden as well.

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-Right, kids, shall we get out and have a look?

-Yes.

-Yeah.

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Right.

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Wow, look at this space.

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Ah, this is more like it.

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It feels more light and airy, doesn't it?

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And it's got more of a modern feel to it.

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It's much lighter than the other property.

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It looks better than the outside of it.

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And with that, Lulu and Noah decided they'd had enough

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of real estate for one day.

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Mum and Dad explored further.

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The kitchen diner had plenty of room for the family.

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It's definitely got the potential,

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whereas I don't think the first property had that.

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-But again, you see, it does depend on budget, doesn't it?

-Yes.

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It's definitely a positive step in the right direction, I think.

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But it wasn't long before things went downhill.

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Oh, this is small, this is really small.

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I feel a bit deflated again.

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I take it this must be the en suite!

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Do you want me to look round first and then I'll let you?

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Oh, my gosh. That is teeny!

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-I'll just squeeze round here.

-Oh, no, that's ridiculous.

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No, that-that is ridiculous.

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Once again, though, the outside area impressed.

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Yeah, this is a lovely size.

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I've got absolutely no complaints with this at all.

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It gave Lee food for thought.

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Is there any room to make it any bigger?

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I don't know, but then that's not going to be cheap, is it?

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From the outside, it looks ideal.

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-It's just the inside.

-Yeah.

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But it is what it is. I think now I'm just worried about the price.

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The couples had misgivings about this house,

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but was it somewhere they could afford, anyway,

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with their £250,000 budget?

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Let's just get this over with.

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-Let see how much it is. Put me out of my misery.

-Right. Will do.

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£250,000!

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It was bang on budget.

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Oh, I'm actually quite relieved.

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-You're quite relieved?

-Yeah.

-It's kind of what I thought.

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Yeah, it's not really...

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-It's not game over just yet?

-It's not game over.

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For the final stop of the day,

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we found what we thought could be the Ramoths' dream home.

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Like the first place, it was also in Clarkson.

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Did this four-bedroom,

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two-bathroom house finally deliver the wow factor that was needed?

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-Nice so far.

-Feeling happy?

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Feeling happy? Yeah, looks lovely.

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Straight away, things were looking up.

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-Got a proper hallway!

-Yeah.

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-This is more like it.

-This is lovely.

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This is just everything that I was expecting.

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Oh, wow.

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-Yeah, this is huge.

-My gosh. This is lovely.

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And it's really open.

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Ah, no, this is perfect.

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The kitchen had the contemporary feel Lauren was looking for.

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Yeah, this is definitely what I'd envisaged.

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The layout was perfect for chef Lee.

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You've got definite kitchen, dining, living,

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but it's all open still.

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There is no comparison between this and the other two houses.

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This is in a completely different league.

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Yeah, it's just ready straight away to move into.

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Yeah, and that's exactly what we wanted.

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Lauren was blown away by this house,

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and it looked like a turning point for Lee.

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If we could afford a property like this, definitely,

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I think you've got me on board.

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Things continued on a positive note in the main bedroom.

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Oh, my gosh, wow.

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Now this is definitely a good master bedroom.

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Oh, look, there's the ensuite.

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Oh, my gosh, there's a walk-in wardrobe!

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Oh, lovely.

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And with three other good-sized bedrooms,

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the couple were very impressed.

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Honestly, it's just getting better and better

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-the more that we look at it.

-It's just ticking the box is, isn't it?

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I'm ready to move in. Shall we?

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-Hold your horses!

-Oh, yeah, we need to see if we can afford it yet.

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With an outside to match the interiors,

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the couple were on cloud nine.

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But, with their £250,000 budget, could they afford it?

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I honestly think that this is going to be well over our budget.

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Yeah, I'm kind of hoping that you're wrong.

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I'm going to pluck a figure out and say 280.

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I think that it is going to be somewhere around the 300,000.

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So shall we get this over with and see how much it costs?

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I feel a bit sick.

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OK.

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-Oh, wow.

-Oh, my God.

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£314,000.

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That was £64,000 over budget.

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That is considerably over our budget.

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-That's way over budget.

-Yes.

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I mean, I know that we can't afford that,

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so I'm struggling to be convinced that we've got an affordable option

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with housing, so I think if anything,

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that's going to make my task of trying to convince you even harder,

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cos if I'm not convinced, how can I then try and convince you?

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It was a day of mixed results.

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House number one was below budget,

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but it lacked the charm to convince Lee to make a move.

0:18:180:18:22

Although affordable, property number two left little room for manoeuvre.

0:18:220:18:26

The final house, though, was a complete show stopper,

0:18:260:18:30

but with a price tag to match.

0:18:300:18:32

So when it came to homes in Australia,

0:18:320:18:34

how did the couple cast their votes?

0:18:340:18:37

Based on the properties that we've seen today, our vote goes to...

0:18:370:18:41

-..UK.

-UK.

0:18:490:18:51

Although the final property was a really nice one,

0:18:510:18:55

it was just way too much over budget.

0:18:550:18:58

I wouldn't want to move to Australia based on properties one and two,

0:18:580:19:03

and I loved property three,

0:19:030:19:04

but like you say, it's well out of our price range.

0:19:040:19:07

We need to see what the rest of the week brings.

0:19:070:19:10

-This is just the first hurdle to overcome.

-Every cloud, yeah.

-Yeah.

0:19:100:19:15

It was a very shaky start,

0:19:190:19:21

and Lauren knew, to afford a home down under,

0:19:210:19:24

they would both need good jobs.

0:19:240:19:26

Back in the UK, Lee ran his own bespoke flooring business.

0:19:270:19:31

I go in-house and design the floors with the customer.

0:19:310:19:35

It's kind of put me in a different league, which has worked,

0:19:350:19:40

and it's paid dividends back already.

0:19:400:19:43

Lauren was the main visa applicants.

0:19:430:19:45

Having retrained as a midwife, she was hooked on her job.

0:19:450:19:49

I think with midwifery, and nursing,

0:19:490:19:52

they are the type of jobs that you have to have a passion for.

0:19:520:19:55

Lauren was confident about finding work down under,

0:19:550:19:59

but worried for Lee.

0:19:590:20:00

With Lee's particular occupation, it really is unknown territory.

0:20:000:20:05

For me to have to take this and start all over again in Australia,

0:20:050:20:10

it's not something that I want to even contemplate at the moment.

0:20:100:20:14

If he doesn't find suitable work,

0:20:140:20:18

then he will absolutely not be on board for wanting to make the move.

0:20:180:20:22

To check out job opportunities for the couple,

0:20:250:20:27

first up, we arrange for Lauren to visit Joondalup Health Campus,

0:20:270:20:31

where she was met by expat midwife Michelle.

0:20:310:20:35

At the time, Lauren was with the NHS,

0:20:350:20:38

but a move could see her transferring

0:20:380:20:40

to the private sector down under.

0:20:400:20:42

I moved over from the public system into here. I've had no regrets.

0:20:420:20:46

Any problems at all, you go straight to the consultants.

0:20:460:20:50

We don't have any junior doctors here.

0:20:500:20:51

So it does seem to be quite different from the UK, then?

0:20:510:20:54

It is, but not in a negative way.

0:20:540:20:58

It sounded encouraging.

0:20:580:21:01

Meanwhile, across town, Lee met up with expat Kevin,

0:21:010:21:03

-who owned a flooring business in Perth.

-Hi, how are you? Kevin.

0:21:030:21:06

Lee was anxious to know

0:21:060:21:08

if there was a demand for his kind of skills down under.

0:21:080:21:11

We've been doing floors here for nearly 11 years.

0:21:110:21:14

There's so many new houses getting built all the time.

0:21:140:21:17

It gets that busy that most companies

0:21:170:21:19

can't handle the work that they've got.

0:21:190:21:21

No shortage of work, then.

0:21:210:21:22

How would it work for somebody like me,

0:21:220:21:24

coming out on my wife's visa, to just branch out on my own?

0:21:240:21:27

Most of the businesses in Perth that do floors

0:21:270:21:31

actually subcontract work out.

0:21:310:21:33

That was exactly how Lee worked back home.

0:21:330:21:35

If you've just arrived from the UK, and you don't know the market

0:21:350:21:40

or you don't know enough people, there is people like myself,

0:21:400:21:43

there would be the option available to you to take full-time employment.

0:21:430:21:46

That was Lee reassured.

0:21:460:21:48

Back at the hospital,

0:21:480:21:49

Michelle filled Lauren in on what kind of hours she might expect.

0:21:490:21:53

Earlies are 7:00 till 2:30.

0:21:530:21:55

Late shifts are 2:00 till 9:30

0:21:550:21:57

and a night shift is 9:00 till 7:30 the next morning.

0:21:570:22:00

That's four-and-a-half hours less

0:22:000:22:02

than the shift pattern Lauren worked in the UK.

0:22:020:22:05

It does sound that that work/life balance here in Australia

0:22:050:22:08

is definitely more achievable.

0:22:080:22:11

And Lee's working hours?

0:22:110:22:12

I tend to work six days a week and anywhere from 10 to 14 hours a day.

0:22:120:22:19

What are your kind of working hours?

0:22:190:22:21

-An average eight-hour day, three o'clock.

-Eight hours?

-Yeah.

0:22:210:22:24

-Right. Good?

-If it's a Friday, probably finish at 12.

0:22:250:22:30

But it's, er... Truthfully. Truthfully.

0:22:300:22:34

Lee couldn't quite believe what he was hearing.

0:22:340:22:37

That's why we're here.

0:22:370:22:38

You don't want to be working 12 hours a day, six days a week

0:22:380:22:41

if you can avoid it.

0:22:410:22:43

-Especially if you've got a young family.

-Yeah.

0:22:430:22:45

But what about the salaries?

0:22:450:22:47

You'd come in as a level one nurse/midwife.

0:22:470:22:50

And that equates to around 68,000 a year

0:22:500:22:54

before any accruements or any extra shift penalties.

0:22:540:22:58

At £36,000, that was almost £10,000 more than Lauren earned in the UK,

0:22:580:23:04

but what about Lee?

0:23:040:23:06

A five-day week where you're working every day,

0:23:060:23:09

you've got a job every day,

0:23:090:23:11

you'll be looking at about 100,000 annually

0:23:110:23:13

so maybe in pounds, I think it's about £50,000 or something.

0:23:130:23:17

-Close to that.

-Yeah, brilliant.

0:23:170:23:19

That was an increase of approximately £15,000 a year.

0:23:190:23:24

News he couldn't wait to share with Lauren.

0:23:240:23:26

Come on, put me out of my misery.

0:23:260:23:28

What happened with you? I've been thinking about you all day.

0:23:280:23:31

Right, with the skills that I've got, I would definitely find work.

0:23:310:23:35

The money side of it, kind of looking at about 100,000.

0:23:350:23:39

-A year?

-A year.

-That's amazing.

0:23:390:23:42

I think it's made me feel a whole lot better that everything

0:23:420:23:45

could fall into place for us.

0:23:450:23:49

No prizes for guessing how this vote went.

0:23:490:23:52

Based on what we've heard today about the jobs, our vote goes to...

0:23:520:23:56

-BOTH:

-..Australia.

0:24:000:24:02

Everything that I've heard today has just ticked every box.

0:24:020:24:06

It is a bit of a no-brainer.

0:24:060:24:07

We can have a family life and still have a good living as well.

0:24:070:24:11

A united vote for Australia breathed new life into Lauren's dream.

0:24:180:24:23

But would a day tasting the lifestyle down under

0:24:230:24:25

end with the same result?

0:24:250:24:27

The family spent their day at an open farm.

0:24:270:24:31

I guess that this is how baby goats cry.

0:24:310:24:33

SHE WHIMPERS

0:24:330:24:35

Do you think so? Yeah.

0:24:350:24:38

After a quick tour, it was time to get hands on.

0:24:380:24:42

Put it on your hand like this.

0:24:420:24:45

Here you go.

0:24:450:24:47

Awe, lots of little ones as well.

0:24:470:24:50

That bunny is just railroading everybody out of the way.

0:24:500:24:53

Days like this were few and far between back home.

0:24:530:24:56

I don't get to see half of this type of thing.

0:24:560:25:00

It's normally Lauren taking the kids.

0:25:000:25:03

It's just perfect for me to spend a bit of time with them.

0:25:030:25:07

Next up were the guzzling goats.

0:25:070:25:09

Look at all the milky froth around their chops.

0:25:090:25:12

Feels like driving a car off a cliff!

0:25:120:25:14

The goats were being very greedy.

0:25:160:25:18

I liked it a bit but they kept on nearly head-butting me.

0:25:180:25:21

-Was it a good day out, Lulu?

-Yeah.

0:25:210:25:24

I think days like today when Lee can see how lovely it can be

0:25:240:25:27

when the whole family is together

0:25:270:25:29

and we can enjoy spending time as a family and enjoying the kids,

0:25:290:25:33

it does help bring us a step closer to obviously helping to convince Lee

0:25:330:25:37

that the move to Australia would only be a positive thing.

0:25:370:25:40

So when it came to lifestyle, was it home or away?

0:25:400:25:45

-Australia.

-Australia.

-Australia.

0:25:490:25:52

Noah, why did you vote for the UK?

0:25:520:25:55

Australia.

0:25:550:25:57

THEY LAUGH

0:25:570:25:58

Everything's just been great today,

0:25:580:26:01

spending time with the kids, just going out as a family.

0:26:010:26:04

These are the sort of things we don't get to do in the UK.

0:26:040:26:07

With a clean sweep for the Aussie lifestyle,

0:26:150:26:18

Lauren's dream was well on course.

0:26:180:26:20

But for life down under to become a reality, the figures had to add up.

0:26:200:26:26

We had prepared a comparison of expenses to help them

0:26:260:26:29

work out the difference between cost of living in Perth and the UK.

0:26:290:26:33

First up, was the weekly food shop.

0:26:330:26:36

-Chicken breast fillets.

-That's 50.

-£10 in the UK.

0:26:360:26:41

£9.50 in Australia.

0:26:410:26:45

-So that's £7.56 per week...

-..more expensive.

-..more expensive.

0:26:450:26:51

So over all, monthly,

0:26:510:26:54

we're out of pocket by £32.76.

0:26:540:26:58

That's not too bad.

0:26:580:27:00

The monthly food bill was over but manageable.

0:27:000:27:03

But what about the other costs of living down under?

0:27:030:27:06

The couple based their calculations on the dream property they saw.

0:27:060:27:10

Back in the UK, they had a small mortgage.

0:27:100:27:13

In Australia, it would have almost tripled.

0:27:130:27:16

So it goes from £380 a month to £974.

0:27:160:27:20

That's a massive amount.

0:27:200:27:21

So, adding everything up, were they better or worse off in Australia?

0:27:210:27:26

That gives us £760.44...

0:27:260:27:31

-..more expensive...

-..more expensive.

-..in Australia.

0:27:320:27:35

The figures were daunting,

0:27:350:27:37

but both Lee and Lauren could earn more down under.

0:27:370:27:41

Still we're better off...

0:27:410:27:42

..by £291.63 per month, based on property three.

0:27:440:27:51

That's approximately £3,500 better off per year down under.

0:27:510:27:56

So how does that make you feel?

0:27:560:27:58

It just means that we can afford to live here in the dream home.

0:27:580:28:03

A really nice house.

0:28:030:28:05

Dream home and dream lifestyle, but was it a dream result?

0:28:050:28:10

Based on today's financial information, our vote goes to...

0:28:100:28:14

-..Australia.

-..Australia.

0:28:190:28:21

I think, overall, it's going to be Australia all the way.

0:28:230:28:28

Mm. I think you're right. It's a win-win.

0:28:280:28:32

Lauren was almost home and dry with her mission to move,

0:28:360:28:39

but there was one final hurdle to overcome.

0:28:390:28:42

Lee made it clear he would struggle with breaking strong ties at home.

0:28:420:28:47

While Lulu and Noah spent time with a childminder,

0:28:470:28:50

the couple sat down to watch a DVD of messages from home.

0:28:500:28:54

-Hi, Lee and Lauren.

-Hi, Lee. Hi, Lauren.

0:28:540:28:59

-Hi.

-Hi.

0:28:590:29:01

Hi, guys. I hope you're having a good time down there.

0:29:010:29:03

Lee's a really patient guy.

0:29:030:29:06

He's always been very, very thoughtful.

0:29:080:29:10

Lauren is, um...

0:29:100:29:13

I would say she would describe herself as high maintenance.

0:29:130:29:16

True story.

0:29:160:29:17

Lauren and Lee are a really good couple,

0:29:190:29:21

they're really supportive of each other.

0:29:210:29:23

It will be strange especially

0:29:230:29:25

because Lee has always put my carpets down for me. I'll miss that.

0:29:250:29:29

All our family, he has.

0:29:290:29:31

That'll be a big wrench from me now

0:29:310:29:33

having to go somewhere and pay full price for carpets.

0:29:330:29:36

Oh, Joan!

0:29:400:29:41

I do love to be with the kids.

0:29:410:29:45

They are very, very precious to me,

0:29:450:29:48

always have been and always will be.

0:29:480:29:50

They'll be missed,

0:29:500:29:52

especially birthdays and Christmas times and things like that,

0:29:520:29:57

it will be hard not having them around the house.

0:29:570:29:59

They have been good friends over the last 10, 15 years, particularly.

0:29:590:30:04

I would wish them well and hope that they're very happy there.

0:30:040:30:07

It won't be the same round here without you, definitely not.

0:30:070:30:10

We all know that.

0:30:100:30:12

We just want you to know we'll miss you lots,

0:30:120:30:15

miss the kids more than anything growing up,

0:30:150:30:19

we wish you all the luck in the world

0:30:190:30:21

and have a fantastic life if you do decide to go.

0:30:210:30:24

I hope the decision you make is the right one,

0:30:240:30:27

but I'm sure everyone be happy for you, whichever decision you make.

0:30:270:30:31

I'll always miss them. I just...

0:30:310:30:33

You know, it's upsetting, really.

0:30:340:30:37

Um...

0:30:370:30:39

Oh, God that was really hard.

0:30:480:30:50

I didn't think your mum and dad were going to get that upset.

0:30:500:30:52

No, well, I kind of expected it from my dad but not from my mum.

0:30:520:30:57

I think it just hits home what you are going to be leaving.

0:30:570:31:02

Emotionally, there's a lot.

0:31:020:31:04

Messages from friends and family

0:31:080:31:10

provided Lauren and Lee with a heartfelt reminder

0:31:100:31:13

of what they'd be giving up if they made the move.

0:31:130:31:16

It's hard to know which way to go.

0:31:170:31:19

I think the biggest wrench is the emotional one.

0:31:190:31:23

I think that's something that he really would struggle with.

0:31:230:31:27

Even now, still every five minutes,

0:31:270:31:30

I still keep sort of changing my mind.

0:31:300:31:34

I'm just hoping that he's completely on board

0:31:340:31:37

and that he is coming round to my way of thinking

0:31:370:31:40

that it's the best possible move for us and the children.

0:31:400:31:43

It was time to decide where the Ramoths

0:31:430:31:46

would spend the rest of their lives.

0:31:460:31:48

-ALL:

-Australia.

0:31:540:31:56

-Did we all vote for Australia?

-We all voted Australia.

0:31:580:32:01

ALL CHEER

0:32:010:32:03

Doing things like this on the beach, spending time with the family,

0:32:030:32:07

if we could have days like this on a regular basis then, yeah, why not?

0:32:070:32:12

Let's do it.

0:32:120:32:13

I'm just really, really happy that everybody else in the family

0:32:130:32:16

has now seen what I've seen for a long time

0:32:160:32:18

and you've finally got on board with this decision.

0:32:180:32:20

Their time in Perth had been enough to rekindle Lee's ten-year-old dream

0:32:300:32:34

for a life in Australia and secure, for Lauren, the future she wanted.

0:32:340:32:40

But 12 months down the road, has their enthusiasm

0:32:400:32:43

for a life-changing move turned into a reality?

0:32:430:32:47

It's 2017 and the Ramoths are living in Perth.

0:32:470:32:52

And they got their just eight months after their trial week.

0:32:520:32:56

When we were here for that week,

0:32:560:32:59

I was amazed at how much I felt like this could be home,

0:32:590:33:06

pretty quickly.

0:33:060:33:08

When he voted for Australia,

0:33:080:33:09

it really was the beginning of the adventure

0:33:090:33:11

and it definitely marked a new chapter in our lives.

0:33:110:33:15

And then, I think, not only me

0:33:150:33:18

but we were both really excited about what the future could hold.

0:33:180:33:22

After their trial week, they spent time looking at the suburbs

0:33:220:33:25

of Perth in order to choose the best area for them to live in,

0:33:250:33:28

then returned to the UK to prepare for the final big move.

0:33:280:33:33

We acted so quickly once we got back

0:33:330:33:36

because we'd spent such a long time talking about it,

0:33:360:33:40

dropping the idea, picking it back up, dropping it,

0:33:400:33:44

and revisiting it time and time again

0:33:440:33:46

that we once we flipped those cards

0:33:460:33:48

and we decided that we did want to move to Australia,

0:33:480:33:51

it was a case of, "Well, we've spent such a long time

0:33:510:33:54

"deliberating this decision, now that we've decided,

0:33:540:33:57

"let's not waste any more time, let's just set the ball rolling."

0:33:570:34:01

Get home, get house up for sale and let's get out of here.

0:34:010:34:04

But whilst they were anxious to get the ball rolling,

0:34:040:34:07

they hadn't anticipated how fast it could go.

0:34:070:34:10

We found ourselves in this position

0:34:100:34:12

where, within a couple of weeks of it being up for sale,

0:34:120:34:15

we had first-time buyers with a mortgage in place

0:34:150:34:18

that offered us pretty much the asking price

0:34:180:34:23

and because they were in rented accommodation,

0:34:230:34:26

they were pushing for a quick sale,

0:34:260:34:28

so that only took six weeks and the house was sold.

0:34:280:34:32

The day that we were moving out,

0:34:320:34:35

was also the day that the shipping company were coming

0:34:350:34:39

to pack all our furniture up.

0:34:390:34:40

That morning, we'd got notification from the visa bureau

0:34:420:34:48

that our visas were granted which, again, was so fast.

0:34:480:34:53

Lee's mum and dad very kindly offered us Lee's old bedroom back

0:34:530:35:00

to stay for a few months until we left for Australia.

0:35:000:35:04

And, as nice as they were, it's really hard leaving your own space

0:35:040:35:11

that you've had for such a long time

0:35:110:35:14

to then go and live in somebody else's space.

0:35:140:35:17

So let's just say it was quite character building.

0:35:170:35:20

It was whilst they were staying with Lee's parents

0:35:210:35:24

that reality began to hit home.

0:35:240:35:27

Did we have time to think about it much?

0:35:270:35:29

Not really, not until...

0:35:310:35:33

..the house was sold and we'd moved into my mum and dad's, then...

0:35:340:35:40

..there were a couple of times

0:35:420:35:45

that we were sat up in my old bedroom...

0:35:450:35:50

..saying to each other, "Have we done the right thing?"

0:35:520:35:57

We used to sit and have the conversations in your old bedroom,

0:35:570:36:00

in your mum and dad's house, and we were saying,

0:36:000:36:02

"Let's move to the other side of the world, we've got no jobs,

0:36:020:36:05

"nowhere to live, we're on limited funds, this is a great idea."

0:36:050:36:09

Yeah, it's a great idea. With kids.

0:36:090:36:12

-Yeah, and a dog.

-And a dog.

0:36:120:36:14

When it came to the morning of their departure, however,

0:36:180:36:21

things were much more subdued.

0:36:210:36:24

On the actual day when we did say goodbye,

0:36:240:36:27

it was really, really hard

0:36:270:36:29

to the point where everybody was in floods of tears.

0:36:290:36:34

-It was awful.

-Mm.

0:36:340:36:37

We actually had other families from the street come out to wave us off

0:36:370:36:44

and they were crying and all our families were crying.

0:36:440:36:48

-And it was just... It was really bad, wasn't it?

-Mm.

0:36:480:36:52

Yeah, it was...

0:36:520:36:54

It was very emotional.

0:36:550:36:57

I suppose when you're saying goodbye to people,

0:37:010:37:07

you know, it isn't just for a few weeks,

0:37:070:37:11

-it is going to be for a long period of time.

-Mm.

0:37:110:37:15

Then there's been other people...

0:37:170:37:19

..that I've said goodbyes to and I probably won't ever see them again.

0:37:210:37:27

The emotional upheaval of such a move is immense.

0:37:280:37:32

But there was no turning back at this late stage,

0:37:320:37:35

and the Ramoths were bound for Australia.

0:37:350:37:37

-The flight was just awful.

-The flight was awful.

-Awful.

0:37:390:37:43

It took 27 hours.

0:37:440:37:46

27 hours.

0:37:480:37:50

I remember Noah saying,

0:37:500:37:51

"This is the worst week of my life.

0:37:510:37:53

"Why did we moved to Australia?"

0:37:530:37:56

I'm like, "Sorry, Noah."

0:37:560:37:57

Yeah, I like it. The only thing I don't like about it -

0:37:570:38:00

mosquitoes, scorpions, like, really venomous spiders.

0:38:000:38:06

Luckily, we don't have the adder from the UK here.

0:38:060:38:09

I was really worried about how they would cope

0:38:100:38:14

and how they would adapt,

0:38:140:38:16

but I think that you forget how resilient kids are.

0:38:160:38:20

They just slotted right in.

0:38:200:38:22

And I think I probably took on the worry for everybody,

0:38:220:38:26

-but they were fine.

-They were fine, yeah.

0:38:260:38:29

I have friends which are Bobby, Ollie

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and a few others which are Mark, Mason, Christian.

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My friends are Sofia, Kaya, Kayla, Ella and Lacey.

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And there are few more called Chase...

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I like Australia because in England it was really cold

0:38:520:38:57

but in Australia it's kind of warm here.

0:38:570:39:01

And a lot more, just a lot more.

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The priority was to find a home,

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but that in itself proved troublesome.

0:39:060:39:09

We were in this holiday rental for couple of weeks.

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The biggest issue was finding a rental

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because we'd been checking which properties were available

0:39:160:39:20

prior to coming over and I don't know what happened

0:39:200:39:23

but, as soon as we landed, they just all went.

0:39:230:39:27

They all got leased literally overnight.

0:39:270:39:29

The only ones that were left

0:39:290:39:31

were the ones that nobody wanted to live in

0:39:310:39:34

and that's why they were still left.

0:39:340:39:36

So it went down to the wire, didn't it?

0:39:360:39:38

We couldn't extend the holiday let any more

0:39:380:39:41

because they had people coming in after us.

0:39:410:39:43

And then, by some pure stroke of luck,

0:39:430:39:48

we were approved on this house and we signed and we got the keys.

0:39:480:39:53

The following day, we moved in.

0:39:530:39:55

The container with all our belongings arrived

0:39:550:39:59

and then, the day after that, our dog arrived.

0:39:590:40:02

So it was just...

0:40:020:40:04

We managed to squeeze in so much in such a short space of time.

0:40:040:40:08

But time was against them when it came to finding work.

0:40:080:40:12

I'd been in touch with a few shops over here in Perth...

0:40:120:40:19

..to set up some interviews,

0:40:200:40:26

maybe try and line a couple of jobs up

0:40:260:40:29

just so they can see what I can do.

0:40:290:40:32

One particular person that Lee had been speaking to online

0:40:320:40:36

prior to coming over, he managed to help him get his foot in the door

0:40:360:40:41

and get his face shown, really.

0:40:410:40:46

So I'm working on quite a nice big five-star hotel,

0:40:460:40:53

this building just here.

0:40:530:40:55

When starting in a country like this, starting a new job,

0:40:550:41:01

you've got to get yourself established,

0:41:010:41:04

and in order to do that I've had to work some longer hours,

0:41:040:41:08

but I think as we settle down into a routine here,

0:41:080:41:14

we will be having those early finishes

0:41:140:41:17

and I can spend some time with the kids and the wife.

0:41:170:41:21

And, yeah, we'll get some quality time back again.

0:41:210:41:24

Lee's long hours, however, prevented Lauren from accepting

0:41:240:41:27

a permanent job offer in a hospital due to childcare issues.

0:41:270:41:31

So, for more flexibility,

0:41:320:41:34

she signed on with an agency, with unexpected results.

0:41:340:41:37

The agency work, it's been a blessing in disguise

0:41:380:41:42

because I really, really enjoy it and it means

0:41:420:41:44

I get to work at different hospitals, different ward settings.

0:41:440:41:48

So there's a lot of variety and two shifts are generally never the same.

0:41:480:41:53

And I don't have to get involved in the ward politics,

0:41:530:41:58

the issues of the ward,

0:41:580:41:59

I can just turn up, do my job, do it well and then leave.

0:41:590:42:03

And that's really good.

0:42:030:42:05

And there's a silver lining for Lee as well.

0:42:050:42:08

The benefit of doing all the hours

0:42:090:42:12

and, you know, persevering, getting on with the job...

0:42:120:42:17

..is the wages.

0:42:180:42:20

I would say it's double what I was on in the UK

0:42:200:42:24

and from what I can gather that we've got here to do,

0:42:240:42:31

it's only going to get better than that.

0:42:310:42:33

And what about the future?

0:42:330:42:34

We're at a stage where we seem to be coming out of the fog

0:42:340:42:40

and the uncertainty and things are taking a more settled balance.

0:42:400:42:44

That, in turn, it gives us reassurance

0:42:450:42:47

that everything will be OK,

0:42:470:42:48

because if we've had to deal with all of this

0:42:480:42:51

in such a short space of time,

0:42:510:42:53

then I think we'll be all right.

0:42:530:42:56

I think that we'll just continue on as we are doing

0:42:560:43:00

and, in time, things will only get better.

0:43:000:43:03

The Ramoths' move down under occurred at breakneck pace,

0:43:090:43:13

leaving them almost breathless.

0:43:130:43:16

And, in spite of the few speed bumps they experienced on the way,

0:43:160:43:19

they have truly made Australia their home.

0:43:190:43:23

We wish them all the very best for the future.

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