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If your dream of starting a new life on the other side of the world

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meant leaving behind one of your children,

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would you still make the move?

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That was the dilemma confronting the Taylor family back in 2009.

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Today, we're going to catch up with them

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to find out which choice they finally made.

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Teachers Vanessa and Phil Taylor

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had always dreamt of moving to New Zealand for a better family life.

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It will be difficult, but it's something I'm prepared to do.

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But their teenage children didn't share their enthusiasm.

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There's not really much around I can do.

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I don't really like it here.

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It's a massive decision,

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because I've got the option to stay behind and not go.

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And when we caught up with them a year later,

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their world had turned upside down.

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Things were going along smoothly, Christmas came and went.

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And a few weeks after that was the bombshell.

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Now we're visiting them again to find out

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if they were finally able to make the move down under.

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In 2009, the Taylor family faced the biggest decision of their lives -

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whether to stay in the UK or to move to New Zealand.

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We gave them a week to sample life down under.

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But what's happened since we last met them?

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Vanessa and Phil Taylor were living in Acklam in Middlesbrough

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with their three teenage children, Liam, Ryan and Megan.

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Full-time teachers Vanessa and Phil were disillusioned with life in the UK.

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They were desperate for a better work-life balance

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and greater opportunities for their children.

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When all comes to all, it's about lifestyle.

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Being a teacher, it's very busy and time-consuming.

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And it is, it's a lifestyle issue, that we seem to be working.

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We didn't seem to have a great deal of time for ourselves.

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Ryan and sister Megan were sold on the idea of New Zealand's outdoor lifestyle.

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I was quite excited at first because the immediate reaction,

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I put a connection between New Zealand and the New Zealand rugby team.

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I really love rugby, so it just kind of clicked straightaway.

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I hated it to start with.

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I didn't know anything about New Zealand being horse country,

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so I had no idea.

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I've researched about horses over there and Mum and Dad have said

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I might be able to get a horse while we're over there.

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So I'm feeling happy with that.

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But 17-year-old Liam was adamant

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he didn't want to leave his friends

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and his work with the St John's ambulance service.

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I'm 99.9% sure I won't go.

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I think I'm going to be the hardest one to convince to go to New Zealand.

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When it boils down to it,

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I think it'll be whether I'll be prepared to leave my family to stay here.

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Because I think they'll all make the decision to go in the end.

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I'm really hoping that it does convince him,

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because, well, if it doesn't, then...

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you know, what is there?

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He'll be staying here and we'll be 12,000 miles away.

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To help the Taylors decide where their future lay,

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they travelled 12,000 miles to Auckland in New Zealand.

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After a 32-hour flight, they arrived jetlagged

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and worried about their unknown future.

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I just can't wait to find out, really, what the place is all about.

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The Taylors stayed in the rural area of Piha, situated west of Auckland.

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Their first impressions were good.

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But there was a lot of work to do to convince Liam.

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It's amazing, isn't it?

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So considering this is your first hour,

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in New Zealand, it's not going too badly then, is it?

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No.

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-I'm sure I'll find something I dislike in a sec.

-I'm sure you will!

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In the UK, the Taylors lived in a five-bedroom detached house in Middlesbrough.

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If they made the move to New Zealand,

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it would only be worth uprooting for a home of a similar size.

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In 2009, their home was on the market for £235,000.

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If their house sold for the asking price, they would have £100,000

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in equity to put towards their perfect property in New Zealand.

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We found three houses in Auckland to show them what they could afford.

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They started their search in the Waitakere area of West Auckland.

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Property one was a four-bedroom detached house.

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Would their first impressions of New Zealand homes live up to their hopes?

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It's a beautiful home in amongst bush. But not too far from anywhere.

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One of the other touches is,

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not only the bush surround, but magnificent views of the countryside.

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They are very, very pleasant.

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Come on through, we'll have a look at the bedrooms.

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Obviously for Mum and Dad. You've got your own patio area.

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-It's really pleasant.

-So, how much is it, then?

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The property is on the market for 539,000.

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Obviously, the vendor will be negotiable.

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To what point, we don't know at this stage.

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-I like the location of this house.

-Yes.

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I mean, the views, really, are great.

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But I'm not too keen on the inside of it, I have to say.

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Bedrooms are quite small. For five people, I don't think it's big enough.

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So, too small for the whole Taylor family.

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Would property two have the space they desired?

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Ten minutes away in the village of Riverhead, it was a do-up,

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which was Kiwi speak for rundown.

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Don't worry about your shoes, you can leave them on.

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As I've mentioned, this is a do-up,

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and you will appreciate as you walk through

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quite a bit of work needs to be done.

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The bathrooms need to be done up. Structurally, it's sound, it's fine.

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But certainly when it comes to presentation, you need to do some work.

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So, how much are you expecting this property to realise on the market?

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He would look at something in the region of 500, in the 500s.

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Is this damp smell that I'm smelling? What is it?

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It is a bit of a damp smell in here.

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You said it was structurally sound, but is there damp?

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Structurally, it is a concrete building.

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There won't be any problems with it structurally,

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but obviously the carpet and the drapes

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and things like that would have a fair bit of moisture in it.

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And I would think all that needs to be changed.

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It's such a poor layout,

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in terms of the way things are laid out,

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that I would take all of the interior walls out.

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So not the right house for the Taylors.

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This one definitely didn't persuade them to make the move.

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Further out of town, property three potentially had

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all they were looking for,

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with stunning views over the Kaipara harbour.

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But was it right for them?

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-This is quite nice, isn't it?

-Yes, very nice.

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That's the boundary fence there,

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then you've got three paddocks here, two small ones in front of us,

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and up to the road there, a larger paddock towards the road.

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-So that part is ours?

-It all belongs to this.

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It's got to be out of our price range!

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It's a four-bedroom house, on about 2.5 acres.

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Asking price of 699.

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-Sold!

-Pardon? Sold! I like it, thank you!

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Vanessa and Phil were impressed with the property.

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It seemed to have something for the whole family.

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-Fifth bedroom.

-Well, I'll have this, cos my horse can go in the corner,

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my bedroom can go here, I'll have a fridge over there.

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-It'll be quiet in there.

-It's a massive amount of land.

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I'm sure you could make a bit flat enough

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and put a set of rugby posts to practice your kicking on.

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Or is that wishful thinking?!

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That property was far superior to the other two.

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So we're a bit happier about property in New Zealand now.

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Because that was pretty much perfect.

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This is much more the kind of thing that we had in mind.

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When you couple that with the view from the living room,

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it's pretty spectacular.

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They'd found their ideal home.

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But with a much higher asking price,

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it would have stretched their finances.

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How did they vote for property? New Zealand or the UK?

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Living on an estate in Middlesbrough

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where there are four or five designs of house that are the same,

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I would have to say that I prefer the individuality of New Zealand.

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The New Zealand houses just pipped the UK,

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so I'm going to choose New Zealand.

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My vote's going to have to be for New Zealand.

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New Zealand is my vote.

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Liam was adamant that New Zealand wasn't for him. So how did he vote?

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Because I'm kind of an outrageous kind of guy, I'm going to go for...

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New Zealand.

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Well, for property at least, the family were united,

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but that was only the first vote of the week.

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Greater challenges lay ahead.

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Back in the UK, Vanessa had been teaching food technology

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at a secondary school for four years.

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She earned around £30,000,

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but work involved long hours and less time spent with her family.

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In New Zealand, she wanted to find out if work could finance

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both the dream home and the lifestyle that she craved.

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I'm going to Balmoral School to teach a class of year sevens.

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I'm a little bit nervous, but I'm looking forward to it.

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I think it'll be quite a good experience.

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This is what I've been planning all along.

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I'll love it or hate it, hopefully I'll love it!

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I'm just going to go over a few quick things

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and get some ideas from you as well,

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it's not just going to be me standing here telling you,

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I'd like a lot of input from you as well.

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While Vanessa was at school,

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the rest of the family were checking out what New Zealand had to offer.

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-Hi, guys. So you're keen on a bit of surfing?

-Definitely.

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-Have you ever done any surfing before?

-No.

-Perfect.

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-I'm expecting to have you standing and riding in one lesson.

-Expectations!

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Don't worry, Megan, the girls always do best.

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Vanessa and Phil knew they had one week to convince their children

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that a move was right for everyone.

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This is it. Megan, it's on.

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This is quite interesting, to see them attempting this,

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they've never surfed before.

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They're starting on a level playing field for once,

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so it'll be interesting to see who does the best out of the three of them.

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Whilst the family enjoyed the waves,

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Vanessa had made a good impression on her class.

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On behalf of room 8 and 10, we'd like to thank you, Mrs Taylor, for coming in today

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and teaching us new skills about packaging and labels.

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Thank you very much, that's really nice of you! Thank you!

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Can I just say, it's been a real pleasure to be in here today.

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I've loved coming in and working with you.

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And I hope to come back again and see you soon.

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So thank you very much, it's been really good.

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That was a really nice surprise, yeah. I was very touched!

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Yeah, it was great.

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The lesson had gone well.

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And a potential salary of 55,000

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was only slightly less than she was earning at home.

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I was a little worried that we wouldn't be able to manage,

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it wouldn't be something we could do.

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Because the cost of living here in New Zealand is lower,

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that will offset that.

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It doesn't seem too bad, perfectly manageable, anyway.

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Vanessa could see a future in teaching in New Zealand,

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and Phil was seeing the benefits of the lifestyle.

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The work-life balance is the key factor

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in us looking to move to New Zealand.

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As a teacher in the UK,

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you do find that your work life intrudes into your home life.

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I'm hoping that by moving to New Zealand, it will redress the balance.

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And we get more time to be together as a family,

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and to do things together, even if it is new stuff.

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I think it will do us all good as a family.

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It seemed New Zealand had a lot to offer the Taylors

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in terms of the life they wanted.

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However, did it convince them all

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that their dream future could be a reality?

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How would Vanessa vote on her experience at school?

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Teaching in New Zealand is very similar to the UK.

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But it does seem that there is more opportunity to actually teach,

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rather than deal with behavioural issues,

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which there are a lot of in the UK.

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And it's a lot friendlier environment as well.

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So with that in mind, I'm going to choose...

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New Zealand.

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For the Taylors, a new life down under rested not only on the right job

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but on the price they could get for their house back in the UK.

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It was a five-bedroom property in Middlesbrough.

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Back in 2009, they believed its value was £235,000.

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We sent round a local estate agent to give his opinion

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on what he thought it was worth.

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It's a lovely five-bedroom extended property,

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in a very sought after location, with close links to all local schools.

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'The master bedroom would benefit from an ensuite

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'but it is still a very charming property.'

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£185,000 for a quick sale.

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-You're joking!

-For a QUICK sale.

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That is ridiculous, I have to say.

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It was 225, 235, and 245, the three valuations we got.

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So we went for 235, it's on the market for 235.

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There's probably a reason why you haven't had any viewings.

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-Well, that's no good.

-Cos it's too high.

-Then it's pointless.

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We'd hardly have any money to bring over.

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If we sell it at that, I'd rather stay in the UK, simple as that.

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In the UK, Liam volunteered for the St John's ambulance service,

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which he saw as a stepping stone to a future career as a paramedic.

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This was another pull to the UK.

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Phil and Vanessa were keen to show him

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the opportunities he could have in New Zealand.

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So what's the chances of Liam doing something like this out here in New Zealand?

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With experience in the UK, probably a good chance.

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I mean, I'm not involved with the recruitment.

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There's a good chance, having a St John's background.

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You can probably tell by the smile on my face, I'm extremely happy

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being able to come to an ambulance station over here.

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It's given me quite a lot to think about.

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It's made me think that New Zealand might be a good option to take.

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At the moment, I'm still quite swayed towards the UK.

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But...

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I think New Zealand is slowly growing on me, I do have to admit.

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Liam seemed to be coming around to the idea of New Zealand.

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But Megan still needed some convincing.

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Vanessa and Phil thought a trip to a local horse riding centre in West Auckland

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would persuade her.

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So, do you guys want to saddle them up?

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Yeah, this is the most exciting thing that I was looking forward to.

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Mainly because I just love horses. Better than anything else. Hello!

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It looks a little bit spirited.

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But was the pull of the UK too strong?

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I like riding in England better, to be honest.

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And I like the horses better there as well.

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I think I'd miss my friends if I moved out here,

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and I wouldn't really like to go to school here, I don't think.

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I don't really like it here.

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Vanessa and Phil had tried their hardest to convince Liam and Megan.

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But would it be enough to make them vote for New Zealand?

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In New Zealand, there seems to be a lot more to do.

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Everything about the lifestyle in New Zealand seems better,

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so I'm going to vote New Zealand.

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From what we've seen so far, I would have to vote New Zealand.

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Because there's more opportunity, I'm going to stick with New Zealand.

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For me, I'm just going to have to vote New Zealand.

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I already like my lifestyle in the UK,

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and there's not really much to do here, so I vote UK.

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Megan's lifestyle vote was a huge disappointment for Phil and Vanessa.

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But at least Liam seemed to be coming round.

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The Taylors had a tough decision to make.

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Seeing messages from family and friends back home would only make it harder.

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Hello, hi, Vanessa. Hi, Phil. Hi, boys. Hi, Megan.

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Hi, Vanessa, Phil, kids.

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I hope you've had an absolutely fabulous time.

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Hi, everyone, hope you've enjoyed yourselves.

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She's a very loving person.

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She's very, she's loving to me,

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because we're very close.

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With them not having their mother, of course.

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If Liam went out there, he wouldn't settle anywhere.

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I think he'd want to come home. If he did go.

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I think my sister would be disappointed if he didn't go.

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To leave one behind, and you go round the other side of the world,

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I think would be a big thing to leave him behind.

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To be honest, I don't blame them. They've got a growing family,

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you've got to do what's best for your family, best for you.

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It's a difficult time for you,

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lots of decisions to be made.

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We'll do everything we can to make it easy for you.

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You know, we just want you to be happy.

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Hope everything goes OK, Phil, you deserve it, you're a good man.

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Vanessa, don't think about anybody else, just think about you,

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and Phil, and your children.

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If you want to stay, you stay. If you want to come home, come home.

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It's, to be honest, it's pretty much the way I expected it to be.

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Everybody, all the family's been very supportive,

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they said they wanted us to do what we feel is right.

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I know everyone's supportive.

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And they even told us, when making your decision,

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don't think about us, think about what's right for you.

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But you can't not bring them into mind.

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I'm going to miss them, but I wouldn't have a choice anyway.

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So if Mum and Dad decide to go, we have to.

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I think it has made a difference seeing that.

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Nan, she's just very matter-of-fact.

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Just puts the cards on the table and tells you how it is.

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It's a massive decision, and I think it's an even bigger decision for me.

1:05:001:05:05

Because I've got the option to stay behind and not go.

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And that might impact... the rest of the family's decision.

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The family were deeply moved by seeing their loved ones.

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But the main thing stopping them from making the decision to go was Liam.

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Had they done enough to convince him that New Zealand offered him a future?

1:05:321:05:37

It was time for the final vote.

1:05:371:05:39

New Zealand has a lot to offer,

1:05:401:05:42

and I'm really going to miss people in the UK.

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However, with the aid of technology, the way it is,

1:05:461:05:50

and I know I'll regret it for the rest of my life,

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if I don't give it a go, I'm going to go with New Zealand.

1:05:531:05:58

It's a lot to leave behind and look back on, but I also think

1:05:581:06:02

there's a lot to look forward to and, for that reason, I choose New Zealand.

1:06:021:06:07

There's a lot to offer here,

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and I know my friends will beat me up for this, but I'm going to choose New Zealand.

1:06:091:06:13

I've enjoyed myself more than I usually enjoy myself in the UK.

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As well as having the Bay of Plenty,

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it seems to be the land of plenty, so I'm going to choose New Zealand.

1:06:251:06:29

I've lived in the UK for 12 years and I've got loads of friends

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and family back in the UK, and I just don't think I can leave them,

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so I'm going to say UK.

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This is good news that Liam's chosen New Zealand.

1:06:421:06:45

Bit of a surprise that Megan hasn't, however,

1:06:451:06:48

we've got nine months to work on Megan.

1:06:481:06:51

It didn't work the last time we said we'd work on it!

1:06:511:06:55

If it turns out that we can't move to New Zealand, it will be

1:06:561:07:01

quite devastating because I've been looking at this for a very long time

1:07:011:07:06

but, as always, I'm going to try and find a way round it.

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And I will, because I'm coming.

1:07:131:07:15

After their week in New Zealand,

1:07:251:07:26

the Taylors seemed on the verge of a move down under.

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But one year later, they were still living in the UK after some big changes at home.

1:07:301:07:35

The trip to New Zealand was great.

1:07:351:07:38

We all enjoyed it.

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I think the country, outdoors life suited me.

1:07:401:07:44

Everyone was still, yeah, we're all for New Zealand,

1:07:441:07:47

and Megan was still moaning, but we still didn't care.

1:07:471:07:50

I still don't like it.

1:07:501:07:51

Still don't like it, but I'm going to have to go.

1:07:511:07:54

We've started the ball rolling with our application.

1:07:541:07:58

And... Everybody was really positive.

1:07:581:08:02

Things were going along smoothly.

1:08:021:08:06

Christmas came and went, and a few weeks after that was the bombshell.

1:08:061:08:13

Liam's girlfriend was pregnant.

1:08:131:08:16

Which was a major, major blow because obviously,

1:08:171:08:22

he'd decided he was definitely coming to New Zealand with us...

1:08:221:08:26

And there's not much way of getting round the fact now,

1:08:291:08:33

that he's going to have to stay in the UK.

1:08:331:08:37

The news of a baby on the way meant that Liam had to totally rethink his plans on moving.

1:08:371:08:42

I was all set for going to New Zealand and quite happy about going.

1:08:441:08:49

And then, all of a sudden...

1:08:491:08:52

we found out that my girlfriend was pregnant.

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It's changed the ball game completely.

1:08:541:08:57

Obviously, from then, my mind was made up for me, and I had to stay.

1:08:571:09:03

Our initial reaction was a little bit mixed.

1:09:041:09:08

Vanessa, I think, was a bit shocked.

1:09:081:09:10

I think she was a bit angry

1:09:111:09:14

because it's a conversation we'd had with Liam.

1:09:141:09:18

I thought, straightaway,

1:09:181:09:19

there's no way, now, that Liam will come to New Zealand with us.

1:09:191:09:24

It's thrown everything out,

1:09:241:09:27

and there's now a possibility that my mum might not want to go.

1:09:271:09:33

With Liam having new responsibilities,

1:09:381:09:41

emotional ties to the UK would be even harder to break.

1:09:411:09:44

If we don't get across to New Zealand in the summer,

1:09:461:09:50

then, and the grandchild is born, at that point...

1:09:501:09:55

..it will be even more difficult, then, to leave them all behind.

1:09:571:10:04

And maybe we won't. Maybe we'll still be here.

1:10:061:10:11

I think I'd like them to be there when the baby is born,

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but it shouldn't interfere with what they already had planned

1:10:161:10:20

and what they wanted to do.

1:10:201:10:22

And I wouldn't like to feel that they were stopped doing something.

1:10:221:10:29

With Liam's path now set,

1:10:291:10:30

where do the rest of the family see their future?

1:10:301:10:33

This time next year, I've no idea where everyone's going to be.

1:10:361:10:39

I think my mum and dad and me and Megan are all going to be in New Zealand.

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I don't really want to say goodbye.

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I might just not say goodbye.

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So, I'll see you soon, you know. Not actually going to leave you.

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It will be difficult to say goodbye to him, if he doesn't come with us.

1:10:521:10:57

But, ultimately, we'll have to go, I think.

1:10:571:11:02

It will be awful, having to leave him behind, but...I don't know.

1:11:021:11:08

The move to New Zealand was a huge decision,

1:11:141:11:18

but with the change in circumstances affecting the whole family,

1:11:181:11:22

would it end the Taylors' dream? It was time to vote again.

1:11:221:11:26

We've been back in the UK now for seven months or so.

1:11:261:11:31

And in that time the situation's changed slightly,

1:11:311:11:34

and therefore, our new votes are going to be...

1:11:341:11:37

I've already been telling everyone about our plans to move to New Zealand,

1:11:371:11:43

and everyone's been asking me, "Is it final? Is it definite?"

1:11:431:11:47

And I'm thinking, it better be New Zealand, I've already told them I have.

1:11:471:11:52

Things are slightly different now,

1:11:521:11:55

with Liam not coming to New Zealand,

1:11:551:11:58

with his new situation.

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However, I'm still going to choose New Zealand.

1:12:001:12:03

A lot of things have changed since the last time we did this.

1:12:031:12:06

However, I have to say that my opinion is

1:12:061:12:09

that the prospects for this family still lie in New Zealand.

1:12:091:12:13

I think I'm going to vote for the UK,

1:12:131:12:17

probably because I've got lots of friends and family

1:12:171:12:20

and I prefer riding the horses that I already know much better,

1:12:201:12:23

so I'm voting the UK.

1:12:231:12:25

I really enjoyed my trip to New Zealand

1:12:251:12:29

and I'd love to go back sometime,

1:12:291:12:31

but at the moment, circumstances make me want to stay in the UK.

1:12:311:12:35

In 2009, Vanessa was desperate to move to New Zealand.

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And after a week of experiencing the reality of life down under,

1:12:491:12:53

she persuaded the family to make the move.

1:12:531:12:56

But the Taylors' circumstances changed when they returned to the UK,

1:12:581:13:02

and their plans to emigrate were thrown up in the air.

1:13:021:13:05

And after all the emotional heartache,

1:13:071:13:11

could Vanessa and Phil really make the move?

1:13:111:13:14

It will be awful, having to leave them behind, but...I don't know.

1:13:141:13:19

In 2010, a move to New Zealand

1:13:211:13:23

was looking more and more difficult for the Taylors to make.

1:13:231:13:28

So, a year later, have they finally given up on their dream,

1:13:281:13:32

or has there been a big turnaround?

1:13:321:13:35

It's summer, 2011, and Vanessa, Phil, Ryan and Megan

1:13:401:13:45

have made the move to New Zealand.

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After Vanessa excepted a teaching job, the family have been

1:13:501:13:53

living in Palmerston North, a two-hour drive from Wellington.

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The vibrant city has New Zealand's shops

1:13:591:14:02

and nightlife on their doorstep.

1:14:021:14:04

And being at the foothills of the Tararua mountains,

1:14:041:14:08

there's plenty of activities for everyone.

1:14:081:14:10

After such a difficult decision,

1:14:121:14:15

how have the Taylors settled in to life in New Zealand?

1:14:151:14:18

So, here we are in New Zealand.

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And I've been here for nine months. And Phil's been here three months.

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The job that I got started in January,

1:14:271:14:31

so I came out with Megan and Ryan.

1:14:311:14:35

Phil stayed in the UK until he got his visa.

1:14:351:14:39

Because Vanessa had said that she would take the job,

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we didn't want to let them down, did we, so I had six months, nearly, on my own.

1:14:421:14:48

In a way, though, it made leaving Liam a little bit easier,

1:14:481:14:53

because it was sort of a staged withdrawal, wasn't it?

1:14:531:14:56

And although he probably had to say bye-bye twice,

1:14:561:14:59

it was still, I think, easier on him.

1:14:591:15:01

It certainly supported me,

1:15:011:15:03

and I would like to think it made a difference to Liam.

1:15:031:15:07

We talk to Liam fairly regularly on Skype, which is really nice,

1:15:071:15:10

but it's just not the real thing,

1:15:101:15:14

so there's no comparison there.

1:15:141:15:16

The move to New Zealand was hard for everyone,

1:15:161:15:19

but especially Ryan and Megan.

1:15:191:15:22

When I found out we were definitely moving here,

1:15:221:15:25

I wasn't the happiest person.

1:15:251:15:27

I didn't want to leave all of my friends, family, and all the horses I knew over there.

1:15:271:15:32

The last nine months I've been here, it has been pretty fun

1:15:321:15:35

and I've made friends at school.

1:15:351:15:38

I am pleased that they decided to come.

1:15:381:15:41

Everyone here has been so nice,

1:15:411:15:44

and they just welcome you into friendship groups.

1:15:441:15:47

It's been quite easy to fit in.

1:15:471:15:49

My mum told me that she got the job.

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I was excited, cos I knew we were going.

1:15:521:15:55

After a while, I realised I'm going to have to say goodbye to my friends,

1:15:551:15:59

and then I thought about my brother. And that upset me a lot.

1:15:591:16:04

Just leaving him behind, it's not something I ever wanted to do,

1:16:061:16:09

something I never thought I'd be doing.

1:16:091:16:12

We did, and I got over it.

1:16:121:16:14

The last year has been tough for the Taylors,

1:16:201:16:23

but despite this, they have settled in to life in Palmerston North,

1:16:231:16:27

and have been renting this three-bedroom home.

1:16:271:16:31

The house that we've moved into now is a new-build.

1:16:311:16:34

I don't know if it's because we've got all our

1:16:341:16:37

own furniture in here, but the decor is quite similar,

1:16:371:16:40

and the carpets are similar,

1:16:401:16:43

so when I put some photographs of this new house on the internet

1:16:431:16:47

for family to see in the UK, there was a few of them

1:16:471:16:51

commented how much it looks like the house in Middlesbrough.

1:16:511:16:55

I actually think it's done us good to rent, because we can get to know

1:16:551:17:00

what the property's like, the area, the market.

1:17:001:17:03

It's a whole different ball game out here.

1:17:031:17:06

I think ultimately, we will probably end up buying.

1:17:061:17:10

We're looking at a timeframe of 12 to 18 months, and then,

1:17:101:17:14

after that, I think we'll probably look at building something

1:17:141:17:19

that we want, that would be long-term,

1:17:191:17:23

really, for after when the kids have left home.

1:17:231:17:26

It was Vanessa's skills as a food technology teacher

1:17:271:17:31

that secured the visa to move to New Zealand and she's been working

1:17:311:17:34

at the same secondary school that Megan attends.

1:17:341:17:37

So we're going to continue on with star profiles

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of what you think a pizza would be like that I made fresh this morning.

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-PHIL:

-'When Vanessa got the job, when she was offered the job,

1:17:491:17:52

'she did an interview over the internet,

1:17:521:17:55

'and she got an e-mail, early in the morning for us, that said,

1:17:551:17:59

' "We would like to offer you the position," and she was absolutely ecstatic.

1:17:591:18:03

'She was over the moon.'

1:18:031:18:04

It was at that point we realised,

1:18:041:18:07

actually, this is going to happen for us.

1:18:071:18:10

Teaching in New Zealand is definitely more enjoyable.

1:18:101:18:13

'It's the way I feel teaching should be.

1:18:131:18:16

'The subjects I am teaching here seem to be more work-related,

1:18:161:18:20

'the interaction with the students is much happier, much easier.

1:18:201:18:25

'The students in New Zealand seem more willing to work

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'and we don't have a lot of behavioural issues.'

1:18:301:18:33

The school that I worked on in the UK, I did feel I was taking

1:18:331:18:37

work home every night, a lot of paperwork as well, rather than marking.

1:18:371:18:42

'Comparing that to here in New Zealand, I would say I try

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'and get everything done during the week, so that my weekends are my own,'

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and the work I take home during the week is, maybe,

1:18:511:18:55

Monday to Friday, totals up three hours, so for me,

1:18:551:19:00

it's been a big improvement.

1:19:001:19:03

Vanessa is relishing the challenges her new job is bringing,

1:19:031:19:06

but for Phil, things haven't been so easy.

1:19:061:19:10

It's been quite frustrating.

1:19:121:19:14

It's kind of surreal that I'm not in full-time employment.

1:19:141:19:18

The problem that we had with my visa, delaying me five months,

1:19:181:19:21

meant that I arrived at entirely the wrong time of year,

1:19:211:19:24

because the school term starts in February.

1:19:241:19:28

So, me arriving halfway through the year, meant there were

1:19:281:19:31

no teaching jobs, so it really caused a problem with the plans we'd set in place.

1:19:311:19:37

But despite work setbacks, the Taylors are enjoying

1:19:371:19:41

all the opportunities New Zealand has to offer the whole family.

1:19:411:19:45

Not working has given us the opportunity to get out and about.

1:19:451:19:50

We can get to know the area. Everything is so different.

1:19:501:19:53

It'd been such a change for us.

1:19:531:19:56

It's probably no bad thing that we've got some time to ourselves,

1:19:561:20:02

and Vanessa doesn't bring work home like she used to in the UK,

1:20:021:20:05

so we spend a lot more family time together.

1:20:051:20:08

Moving to New Zealand is the best thing that I've ever done.

1:20:081:20:13

It'd lived up to the expectations that I had of New Zealand,

1:20:131:20:16

the lifestyle, the people, the place, it's all been great, so far.

1:20:161:20:20

I think moving to New Zealand has been a good family decision.

1:20:201:20:24

I've really enjoyed it so far.

1:20:241:20:27

It's the right decision, but the only downside is leaving Liam and his family.

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For the Taylor family, one of the most difficult decisions

1:20:391:20:43

was to leave hind eldest son Liam and granddaughter Destiny.

1:20:431:20:48

Since they've moved, being separated from loved ones

1:20:481:20:51

has got even harder, as Liam has become a father again.

1:20:511:20:55

When we first made the decision, it was a matter of convincing Liam

1:20:551:21:00

that this is where his future lie,

1:21:001:21:03

and when we found out about Destiny, then that changed things

1:21:031:21:08

because it meant he definitely couldn't come.

1:21:081:21:11

If we knew Liam definitely wouldn't be coming before we started,

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we probably wouldn't have even looked at it.

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There are times when it does hang over us,

1:21:161:21:19

I think, as a family, the fact that Liam's not here.

1:21:191:21:21

The majority of the time we manage to get on with things, get on with life,

1:21:211:21:25

then there's just that odd occasion where things crop up and you think about Liam,

1:21:251:21:30

and yes, there's that black cloud there, thinking, "I wish he was here."

1:21:301:21:35

I try not to think of Liam as being so far away, because I get to talk

1:21:391:21:42

to him over the internet, but it's not the same cos he's not here,

1:21:421:21:46

and I'm used to sending him a text and him just popping round to see me.

1:21:461:21:51

It is something I can't do any more and I miss him.

1:21:511:21:54

Having Liam and my nieces back in England

1:21:541:21:59

has been tough on everyone.

1:21:591:22:02

But we're still getting on with things. I mean,

1:22:021:22:06

we know we're going to see them again.

1:22:061:22:09

We just don't really know when.

1:22:091:22:11

But they wanted us to come over here and have a better life,

1:22:111:22:15

but it's just sad we had to leave them.

1:22:151:22:17

I found it more difficult

1:22:171:22:21

than I thought I would with Liam not being here.

1:22:211:22:24

I thought I would be able to cope.

1:22:241:22:26

Everybody says, "The world's a small place, you've got the internet

1:22:261:22:30

"and you can talk to each other every week," but it's not the same.

1:22:301:22:34

It's hard for us and it's hard for him.

1:22:341:22:38

It's hard for Megan and Ryan,

1:22:381:22:41

but that's the way it's got to be, I suppose.

1:22:411:22:45

Whether it'll get easier in time,

1:22:451:22:47

I couldn't honestly answer that.

1:22:471:22:51

It probably will. But it will always be there.

1:22:511:22:55

And it will always be, sort of,

1:22:551:22:57

a missed opportunity, maybe.

1:22:571:22:59

The Taylors' new life down under has been fraught with difficult decisions

1:23:011:23:05

and with a new addition to the family,

1:23:051:23:08

watching a message from Liam could remind them what they're missing in the UK.

1:23:081:23:12

Hiya, Mam, hiya, Dad. Hiya, Ryan, hiya, Megan!

1:23:151:23:18

Hope you're all doing really well. I'm really missing you all loads

1:23:181:23:22

and hopefully I'll be able to come and see you as soon as possible.

1:23:221:23:27

For the moment, I've got to stay here.

1:23:271:23:31

Destiny has been looking at your pictures, Megan,

1:23:321:23:38

and we've seen that you have won a few horse competitions.

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You're doing really well.

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I'm just sorry I can't be there to watch you win them.

1:23:441:23:48

Ryan, I am glad to hear you're doing really well at school.

1:23:481:23:52

Mam...

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I miss you more than words can say.

1:23:541:23:58

I miss having you around,

1:24:001:24:02

just to talk to,

1:24:021:24:05

but I am glad that you really like the school you're teaching in now.

1:24:051:24:09

Dad, when Mam left

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and you were left here, with me,

1:24:141:24:18

we spent a lot of time together

1:24:181:24:19

and that made it a little bit harder to leave.

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But I understand why you've done it

1:24:271:24:30

and I wish you all the best of luck.

1:24:301:24:32

Right, I know you've seen pictures of her on the internet,

1:24:331:24:38

and a few times on video calls, but this is your first real

1:24:381:24:42

opportunity to see her at work, so this is Charley!

1:24:421:24:47

(She's going to cry)!

1:24:531:24:55

I thought she was going to cry, as well.

1:24:551:24:57

This is the new addition to the family.

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She hopes she can come and see you soon, all of you.

1:25:091:25:14

As do I!

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Liam doesn't show his emotions very often,

1:25:191:25:22

in fact, hardly ever, and the fact that we've seen,

1:25:221:25:26

we've all individually seen the message from him, there,

1:25:261:25:30

has brought it home more, because we do speak to him over the internet,

1:25:301:25:34

but he doesn't tell us how much he misses us.

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Ultimately, I do feel it's still been the right thing to do, because,

1:25:381:25:43

it was the right decision for Liam to stay in the UK with his kids,

1:25:431:25:47

and start making his future there.

1:25:471:25:51

It was still right for us to continue

1:25:511:25:55

and start making our future in New Zealand.

1:25:551:25:59

It's a shame Liam can't be part of it,

1:25:591:26:01

but it's not to say he'll never be part of it.

1:26:011:26:05

It is difficult to put into words exactly how you feel.

1:26:051:26:09

I mean, I miss Liam.

1:26:091:26:12

I wish he was here, but I miss Destiny. Charley's a little bit

1:26:121:26:16

different, because we'd left before she was born.

1:26:161:26:21

But that doesn't change the fact that we have two grandchildren

1:26:211:26:25

in the UK, and...

1:26:251:26:28

I just wish they were here.

1:26:281:26:30

Although the Taylors have had a long and difficult journey,

1:26:391:26:43

the family are finally making a real home in New Zealand.

1:26:431:26:47

I am pleased that they decided to come,

1:26:491:26:52

otherwise I wouldn't have met the people that I have

1:26:521:26:56

and I wouldn't have got my horse or my cute little kitten.

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It's just been quite a good experience.

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Moving to New Zealand was a fantastic idea.

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Just the things to do has really brought us together.

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I think my mum and dad have got this little hope, that one day

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Liam will come out, and I definitely do.

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It's been an emotional rollercoaster

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because we've had to leave Liam behind

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and obviously I would prefer it if he was here.

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But for the lifestyle, the work-life balance,

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I'm glad that I've made the move.

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I am happier than I thought I would be, actually.

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I've really enjoyed it.

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We're more relaxed, we've got more time,

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it is a good life.

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So after three years, two new family members

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and plenty of sleepless nights, the Taylors are finally settling in

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to their new lives down under

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and with a growing family back in the UK

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there's still a bit of their hearts left at home.

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