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Persuading your teenage children to leave their lives behind them

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for a new start abroad is no easy matter.

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In 2010, that was the challenge faced by Andy and Lynn Horn

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when they sampled life in Australia.

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Today, we're going to find out

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how they coped with that potentially heart-breaking choice.

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For 30 years, Lynn Horn believed in the idea of a better life down under,

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but her children didn't share that dream.

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I'm not only losing a boyfriend, I'm losing a friend.

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And if the numbers wouldn't add up,

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could the Horns really afford the life Lynn hoped for?

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I'm just realising it might not ever, ever happen.

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Especially if it came at the cost of splitting the family in two.

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I couldn't stay in England and have these three in Australia. Couldn't do it.

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One year on, we're catching up with the Horns

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to find out how and where they are now.

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In 2010, the Horn family faced a life-changing decision -

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whether to stay in the UK or to move to Australia.

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We gave them one week to experience life down under

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but what's happened since we last met them?

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Self-employed glazer Andy and pre-school teacher Lynn Horn

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lived in Herne Bay in Kent.

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Their son Chris was aged 18, and daughter Kirsty, 17.

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They loved the life they'd built for themselves here,

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but it was not enough for Lynn and she was desperate for a change.

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I've wanted to go since I was about nine.

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My mum went to Australia on a cricket tour with my dad

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and ever since they came back, raving about the place, I've wanted to go.

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I told Andy that when I met him

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and we've tried a couple of times, we've looked into it,

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but we've always thought something wasn't right, timings weren't right.

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She talked Andy into giving Australia a try, but he was not convinced she was really certain.

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It's been a long time since she's first dreamed about going.

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I'm still not sure she's 100% she wants to go.

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I'm not sure whether she's really committed

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to leaving everything she's got, to make that big move.

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There were two other potential problems.

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Chris and Kirsty were old enough to stay at home on their own,

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but Lynn wouldn't contemplate splitting the family up.

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We want more from life and want more for the children, for their futures,

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which we don't think they'll get over here.

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Chris was about to leave school, and the timing couldn't be worse.

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He needed some serious convincing.

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For me, I feel a bit confused about where I am

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and what could happen within the next couple of years.

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The trial we're going on is going to have a massive impact on all of us.

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For Kirsty, leaving her big group of friends and boyfriend behind was unthinkable.

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Despite everything her parents had told her, she couldn't imagine a future in Australia.

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If we made the move, we'd leave so much behind.

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I love life as it is now. I'm not sure it's worth giving up.

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But Andy could see the possibilities down under

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and had grand plans.

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If I do get any time off work then I'm out on the golf course

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playing somewhere.

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I must admit, the golf course is where all my friends are.

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I've always wanted to build myself a small crazy golf centre.

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That would be my ultimate dream.

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Even so, Andy was heading out to Australia with some doubts.

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There's still a lot of convincing for me to go as well, I think.

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If things don't work out this side,

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for us to make that initial move,

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then, you know, we don't go, basically.

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But Lynn was still convinced the move was right.

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For her, there was only one barrier.

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Finances are the only thing that could actually stop it from occurring, I think.

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Selling Andy's business, selling the house, getting the money we need for the house,

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to then make the move over is purely financial.

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The Horns spent the week in Adelaide to help them decide.

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After a 23-hour journey across three continents,

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they were tired and emotional.

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We've had tears on the way.

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Don't, cos I'll start again.

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No, you won't.

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However, Lynn was remaining positive.

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-Really looking forward to it.

-Here we come, Adelaide!

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She had to persuade the whole family that life down under was for them,

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so she could realise her dream.

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Their home for the week was in Henley Beach

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and was the perfect base to explore the area.

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After the draining flight, they were all feeling the effects.

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Being on the flight for 23 hours overall

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definitely made me realise how far Australia is away from home.

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Kirsty had a lot to leave behind,

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so Andy and Lynn had a huge challenge ahead to persuade her to move.

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I'm going to try really hard throughout this week

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to try and make a point that this is going to be a really good idea

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and there will be everything for her that she wants here.

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Which is why the week is so important for us.

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Not just for us, but for Kirsty as well.

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They really had their work cut out.

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Kirsty's mind was still on everything she'd be leaving in the UK.

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I don't think it's hit me yet that we could actually move out here.

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We don't have any family out here, or friends.

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I mean, we would make friends, but I'd still miss my old ones.

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With so much on their minds, the week ahead was going to be full of difficult decisions.

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So, would life in Australia be for them?

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Back in the UK, the Horn family lived in a three-bed, end-of-terrace property in Herne Bay.

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They loved their home and although they wanted to get something bigger,

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they weren't expecting a mansion.

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If they got the £175,000 they hoped it was worth,

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they'd have a total budget of £230,000 to spend on a home in Oz.

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We showed them three properties,

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to give them an idea of what they could afford.

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Property one was in Seaton, a busy suburb 25 minutes from the city centre

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and only ten minutes from the beach.

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This Tudor-style three-bedroomed property was under budget at:

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It needed some updating, but could the Horns see any potential?

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-It's the same size as ours.

-I like the flooring.

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Yeah.

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I've always wanted the kitchen and diner combined.

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-Yeah, the open plan.

-Yeah.

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-Nice size.

-Yeah. Not bad, is it?

-Happy with the view, as well.

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-I like this room. Nice size.

-KIRSTY:

-This will be my room!

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-A bit of redecoration. A bit of painting.

-Yeah.

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Outside, there was an al-fresco dining area

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typical of Aussie homes.

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You probably get about three days a year in the UK with barbecues.

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Here, it's three days a week.

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-It's really nice.

-I really like the house. It's a good size.

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Driveway space is a bit limited.

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You'd be vying for a parking spot each night.

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The parking space had ruled out property one.

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Could property two win them over?

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In the up-and-coming suburb of Queenstown,

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property prices were generally lower than the city average.

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This huge house offered three or four good-sized bedrooms

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and a massive living space, all for:

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Estate agent Sean O'Hara

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was waiting to show them around.

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It definitely had the space they wanted, but could it impress the Horn family?

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Wow! Kirst, I would be in my element!

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-I want this room.

-Do you? You can't have it!

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Dad, you can be in the other room.

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-Go into the kitchen.

-Cool. Cup of coffee.

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Bit of updating, doesn't it?

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Wow!

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You could fit our house in this space, and I'm not joking! Seriously.

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It's big enough for you, then?

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-Just a little bit, yes!

-It's unreal, isn't it?

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This property seemed to be going down well, but Andy spotted a potential problem.

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It hasn't got any air-con, has it?

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No. There is an air conditioner in the lounge, but it needs upgrading as it's old.

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You'd need a split system and put it in a couple of rooms.

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So, did they really like it or were they just being polite?

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I don't think it was the kind of house we'd live in.

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I'm not sure whether I could live here.

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-It's too big for me. I like to be cosy.

-Hmm.

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So, it was up to property three to win them over.

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On the market for £255,000,

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this four-bedroom, two-bathroom house

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was £25,000 over budget.

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But with a room each, a large garden and spectacular views,

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could they be persuaded to stretch their finances?

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-This is nice.

-It's huge.

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-You can see the sea from here.

-Beautiful, isn't it?

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Lovely.

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So far, they were all impressed by this house.

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-This is nice.

-Wow.

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-This is a lovely kitchen. I can see myself in here.

-I can imagine sitting here for breakfast.

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-You wouldn't need a dining room.

-There's one there. Can't believe how big the rooms are.

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-You wouldn't have to do anything here.

-No, you could just move in.

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And the garden really hit the spot.

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-It's stunning. There's not much maintenance.

-Not at all.

-Cutting the grass and watering the plants.

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But upstairs, Andy found something he was not happy about.

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For the size of the house, I think it's quite a small bathroom.

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-This is similar to what we've got at home.

-Hmm.

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There was just the master bedroom to seal the deal.

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Oh, my lord!

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-Look at this!

-Wow!

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-Now, this...

-Is the bee's knees.

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Oh, wow! Look at those views!

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Views all the way round, by the looks of it.

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Who wouldn't want to live in this house?

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-This is just mad.

-Amazing, isn't it?

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-This...this is the dream, really, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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This house is over budget by about 50,000, I think.

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But if there's a way we can find to get that other 50,000,

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-really try hard to find jobs to get that budget.

-Yeah.

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I would do anything to have this house. It's amazing.

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Andy had fallen in love with the place.

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But if they couldn't find the right jobs, they'd never be able to afford it.

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The Horn family liked property one, but the parking space was a problem.

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Property two had the floor space,

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but they couldn't see themselves living there.

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And property three, let's say it fulfilled the term "dream home", for Andy at least.

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But giving up their home in Herne Bay wouldn't be easy.

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Had they seen enough in Australia to make it worthwhile?

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It was time to vote on property.

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Based on the houses we've seen today, our vote is going to be...

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ALL: Australia.

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-You can't compare, really, can you?

-No.

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We're at that vital stage now.

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We really need to know our budget, what we can afford.

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The dream is to sell the house and the business,

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make a bit of profit on both of them,

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and have that as a set-up for coming out here and starting a new life.

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Back in the UK, Lynn worked as a pre-school supervisor.

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I love my job. I don't get up and think, "I don't want to go to work."

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I just like it.

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She'd been working with young children for 24 years.

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Her skills were very transferable.

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She would have to work more hours in Australia,

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but hoped to earn more than the 14,000 she was currently earning.

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Lynn visited a pre-school in the heart of Adelaide

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to find out if she'd like working there.

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I'm a bit nervous at the minute, and a bit excited about it.

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I want to get an overall view of how the systems work,

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an idea of wages and hours would be good,

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just to have a rough guideline on what I could expect to earn if we came over here.

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She met with pre-school director Melissa Ray for a rapid introduction to teaching in Australia.

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-Come through and I'll show you a classroom.

-OK.

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It was straight in at the deep end for Lynn, but there was a great reception waiting for her!

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-ALL:

-Hi, Lynn!

-Hello!

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With creative learning a key philosophy at this school,

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Lynn seemed to be fitting in perfectly.

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Are they all gone? You did good pinning.

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As she settled in to a day at work,

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Andy was determined to find out if his dream to own a mini golf course

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really could be viable in Australia.

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It was something he'd wanted for years

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and making the move could provide him with a chance to fulfil his dream.

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He met with mini golf course owner Brian

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to discuss the real pros and cons of the business

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over a quick game.

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In you go! Look at that!

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For Andy to afford to start a business like this, he'd be relying on what he'd get

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by selling his glazing business back in the UK.

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But there were significant costs Andy hadn't even have thought of.

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The maintenance involved in mini golf is keeping the greens nice and clean.

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To carpet something like this is going to cost 30 or 40,000. It's not cheap.

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But before he even considered finding the money for the carpet,

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Andy would need a plot of land to buy or rent to put his mini golf course on.

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If you're starting from scratch, you have to buy land.

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It's got to be in the right place too.

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You probably make 85% of your income during school holidays.

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The only day we close here is Christmas Day.

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So, this really was a full-time job and the more Andy found out,

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the more he realised his ambition was out of reach.

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Well, my dream for this golf, mini golf,

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um, I think is going to stay a dream, to be honest with you.

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It looked like he'd have to find an alternative income,

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so it was even more important that Lynn was happy teaching in Australia.

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Back at the school, Lynn found out how classes were run

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from teacher Shi Li.

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There are three main teachers who plan for the students in class.

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So, on average, there's about 17 per teacher.

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That includes children with special needs.

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Is that high, in general? Is that a high number to have each?

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-Or is it about right?

-That's about right.

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It was more children per teacher than she had to deal with in the UK.

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Lynn needed to find out if she could earn enough money to stretch their property budget.

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If she couldn't, the whole move could be off.

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What would be the sort of start pay?

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At our centre, it's about 880 a week.

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So, that's about 46,000 a year to work here as a team leader.

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That was about £27,000, almost double what Lynn was earning back in the UK.

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-Excellent. It's been lovely to meet you.

-Thank you.

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The wages might be better, but she'd be working longer hours,

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with less responsibilities.

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Had it been enough to convince her to leave behind the school she loved in the UK?

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Based on what I've experienced today at the pre-school,

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my vote for jobs would be...

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..Australia.

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I could really work in a place like that. The setting was lovely, the people were nice.

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That's the sort of setting that I would really fit into.

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Lynn had been impressed with work,

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but if Andy was unable to subsidise the income,

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it would impact on their finances.

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For the Horn family to achieve their dream home in Australia,

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they needed to secure not only good jobs, but also a good price for their home in the UK.

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We sent two estate agents to their house to give them their opinion.

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-All that snow on the ground!

-It's our house!

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Not a large kitchen, but adequate.

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Hob, oven. Do with a bit of a clean.

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Quite a good size.

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Ah. Conservatory.

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The only problem being maybe it's not double-glazed.

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It is double-glazed!

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An interesting start. Was the second opinion any better?

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A very useable space for a modern family.

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Nice useable conservatory. Nice to see timber construction, for a change.

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Not a large bathroom. And master bedroom. Nice room.

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The Horns hoped it was worth £175,000.

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Ideal little family house. Modern end-terrace, recently built.

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If I was to put this on the market,

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I would value it at around about 160,000.

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If they were looking for a quick sale,

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I'd recommend putting it on at 154,950.

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In the current market, I would value this house at £169,000.

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If we wanted to get a queue at the door,

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if it went on the market between 160 and £165,000

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then I feel it would go very quickly.

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I've adjusted to the fact that we'll only get X amount now.

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We were hoping to come to Australia with a budget

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and we've just watched that crumble, basically.

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But the house was only part of the package.

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They had to make the comparison between their UK finances

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and what they could afford in Australia.

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If they were going to struggle to afford the life they wanted,

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Lynn's dream could be over.

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-Shall we start with salary, then?

-Yeah.

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-That's your wage before tax.

-Before tax.

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So, we bring home 42.4.

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If I worked 40 hours, I'd be bringing home 26, nearly 26.5.

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And you'd be bringing home 27.

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-A 4,000 drop.

-Yes. But they clobber you for tax.

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-So, it's 6,000 a year.

-We'd be £500 a month worse off.

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Mortgage. We pay 450.

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-Repayments would be 969.

-So, we're doing it on property three, then.

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Groceries. It's a bit smaller.

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-Bit smaller.

-There we go.

-That's perfect.

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Chicken's expensive. 5.72 to 6.79.

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-That's quite a jump.

-About a pound.

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Let's add up the monthly figures.

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UK is 1,855.

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And Australia is 2,605.

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That's 750 higher in Australia.

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-It almost looks like we've got to work...

-Harder to get...

-To pay for that.

0:21:000:21:05

-It will be tight, though.

-Very tight.

0:21:050:21:08

It was a big disappointment.

0:21:080:21:11

They'd be £750 a month worse off in Australia.

0:21:110:21:15

The finances have got to start going the correct way now

0:21:150:21:18

to keep our dream alive.

0:21:180:21:21

If they keep dipping and dipping then our dream's fading with it.

0:21:210:21:27

I'm just realising that it might never, ever happen.

0:21:300:21:33

It'll happen.

0:21:350:21:37

We've just got to be patient.

0:21:370:21:39

Lynn's worst nightmare had been realised.

0:21:390:21:41

How would this affect their vote? Was Australia an affordable option?

0:21:410:21:46

That was a really hard exercise, going through the figures.

0:21:460:21:50

But our decision on cost of living is going to be...

0:21:520:21:56

-..UK.

-Australia.

0:21:560:21:59

I thought you'd go the other way!

0:22:010:22:04

You can think what you want to do.

0:22:040:22:06

The cost of living is definitely better in the UK.

0:22:060:22:10

The cost of living IS better in the UK,

0:22:100:22:12

but we looked at the dearest house of the three.

0:22:120:22:16

-I think definitely the dream is still on.

-Yeah.

0:22:160:22:19

-We'll have to delve a bit deeper to find that dream.

-Mm.

0:22:190:22:22

I'm not backing down.

0:22:220:22:24

The dream is still on for me.

0:22:240:22:26

And me, even though I went that way.

0:22:260:22:28

Far from the snowy driving range in Herne Bay,

0:22:360:22:38

Andy and Chris went to try out the exclusive Glenelg Golf Club.

0:22:380:22:43

Paul and Henry Durgeon

0:22:430:22:44

were getting warmed up for a friendly father-son game.

0:22:440:22:48

-Chris, Paul.

-Henry.

0:22:480:22:49

But it wasn't long until the competitive spirit comes out.

0:22:490:22:53

-Let's show these whippersnappers what it's all about!

-Yep!

0:22:530:22:57

Sharp! Perfect!

0:22:590:23:00

It was Andy's passion, but Chris was certainly holding his own.

0:23:000:23:04

-Great putt.

-There you go. Lovely.

0:23:040:23:07

Sharp! That'll show the boys!

0:23:080:23:11

Time to get out of the blazing sun

0:23:110:23:14

and the clubhouse was the perfect place for a well-earned drink.

0:23:140:23:17

With so much to leave behind, the Horn family would need to convince themselves

0:23:170:23:21

that Australia could fill the emotional gaps.

0:23:210:23:25

Socialising and making new friends quickly were essential.

0:23:250:23:29

And Paul was keen for them to meet his family.

0:23:290:23:33

After a quick introduction to Paul's wife, Lisa, and daughter, Britney,

0:23:400:23:44

it didn't take long for them all to get chatting.

0:23:440:23:47

A little bit hot, is it?

0:23:470:23:49

Whilst the parents got to know each other,

0:23:490:23:52

the youngsters headed off to explore the park.

0:23:520:23:55

Chris and Kirsty were both worried

0:23:550:23:58

they wouldn't cope without their friends in the UK.

0:23:580:24:01

So, it was crucial they found out if they could fit in here.

0:24:010:24:04

They used a leisurely paddle

0:24:040:24:06

as a chance to get some answers from their new friends.

0:24:060:24:09

-I think we need to go that way.

-Let's do a loop.

0:24:090:24:11

Kirsty had some serious issues to discuss with Britney.

0:24:110:24:15

-Have you got a boyfriend?

-No. I hear you do, though.

0:24:150:24:18

-Yeah. Back in England.

-What's his name?

-Calum.

0:24:180:24:21

-Calum. That's a nice name.

-Bless him.

0:24:210:24:24

-Yeah. Tears at the airport.

-Oh, really?

0:24:240:24:27

But the boys had other priorities.

0:24:270:24:30

Most people play footie for school and club footie.

0:24:300:24:34

-Some other people play for league sides.

-Right.

0:24:340:24:37

So, a lot of people play three lots of footie in one week.

0:24:370:24:41

They're having a great time.

0:24:420:24:44

Lynn wanted to make sure there would be enough for Kirsty and Chris to do in Adelaide.

0:24:440:24:50

It wasn't actually that bad.

0:24:500:24:51

After all that exercise, it was time to see if the local tucker would go down a treat.

0:24:510:24:57

-We have goat's cheese, sheep's cheese...

-Kangaroo cheese?

0:24:570:25:03

If you can work out a way to milk a kangaroo,

0:25:030:25:06

you're doing better than us!

0:25:060:25:08

The Horn family had a fantastic time.

0:25:080:25:12

But thoughts of leaving their old friends behind were just below the surface.

0:25:120:25:16

It was time to decide

0:25:180:25:19

if the lifestyle in Australia would make the pain of leaving home bearable.

0:25:190:25:23

Our vote is going to be...

0:25:260:25:28

-Halfway.

-Halfway.

0:25:330:25:35

Australia.

0:25:360:25:37

Australia.

0:25:390:25:41

They were a great family today. They're really sociable out here.

0:25:420:25:46

They made us feel like part of a group already. In one day.

0:25:460:25:50

Really looking forward to meeting lots more people like that if we get to move here.

0:25:500:25:56

Lynn and Kirsty remained undecided.

0:25:560:25:58

Even though Chris and Andy had enjoyed the day out,

0:25:580:26:01

the family were still no closer to agreement.

0:26:010:26:04

Hearing messages from back home

0:26:130:26:15

would make things even harder for the Horns.

0:26:150:26:18

Hi, Lynn, Andy, Chris and Kirsty.

0:26:180:26:21

Hello, Chris and Kirsty and Lynn and Andy.

0:26:210:26:23

Lynn's a very responsible person.

0:26:230:26:26

As far as the family are concerned,

0:26:260:26:28

I couldn't fault her way of bringing up the children.

0:26:280:26:33

Been very close to her all my life.

0:26:330:26:35

When she met Andy, I felt I was losing the closest thing I'd got.

0:26:350:26:41

But realised, in fact, I'd actually gained a brother, not lost a sister.

0:26:410:26:46

He's good company, a good friend. Good fun to be with.

0:26:460:26:50

-You just enjoy his company.

-No-one's got a bad word for him.

0:26:500:26:53

He's one of the legends, one of the kingpins of the club. Ex-captain.

0:26:530:26:58

Chris is my closest and best friend because he's always there

0:26:580:27:01

and he's kind and he goes out of his way

0:27:010:27:04

more than my other friends will for me.

0:27:040:27:06

-Kirsty's really easy to like. A really likeable person.

-Funny.

0:27:060:27:12

Loves to shop!

0:27:120:27:13

She's constantly happy, talking to her friends.

0:27:130:27:18

Bubbly person. Always knows when to have a laugh.

0:27:180:27:21

She cheers me up whenever I'm a bit unhappy.

0:27:210:27:25

I want her to enjoy herself, but I don't want her to love it that much she stays over there.

0:27:250:27:30

We don't want her to leave.

0:27:300:27:32

Kirsty belongs here with us.

0:27:320:27:34

-LYNN'S MUM:

-Naturally, I'd like to hope that they didn't make that decision to go permanently.

0:27:340:27:40

I'd like to think that they would stay here.

0:27:400:27:44

I'm going to really miss you if you go to Aussie.

0:27:450:27:48

Even though I'm going to miss you,

0:27:500:27:52

I think it's a brave decision and I'm going to really miss you.

0:27:520:27:57

Seeing the messages made the pain of leaving even more real.

0:28:040:28:08

It does make it hard to think about actually leaving Mum and Sue.

0:28:080:28:12

If we miss our friends after a week, imagine after, like, a month!

0:28:120:28:17

It's going to be so hard.

0:28:170:28:19

Hits you in the heart. Shows you how close they really are.

0:28:190:28:22

It would be the hardest decision, to leave behind.

0:28:220:28:27

But splitting up the family just wasn't an option.

0:28:270:28:32

I couldn't stay in Australia... stay in England

0:28:320:28:35

and have these three out in Australia.

0:28:350:28:39

-And vice versa.

-Couldn't do it.

0:28:390:28:42

The week had been emotionally draining for the whole family,

0:28:480:28:53

but for Chris, it was the extreme heat that worried him the most.

0:28:530:28:56

I've had really bad headaches, stomach pains.

0:28:560:29:00

It will affect my decision

0:29:000:29:03

because I'd have to deal with it all the time.

0:29:030:29:07

Obviously because it's so hot.

0:29:070:29:09

For Kirsty, the emotional pain was just as strong.

0:29:090:29:13

I think I'm the one that would stop this move from happening.

0:29:130:29:17

The thing is, with Calum, I'm not only losing a boyfriend, I'm losing a friend.

0:29:170:29:21

Would the children stop Lynn fulfilling her dream?

0:29:250:29:29

Potentially, either of them could say no, to be fair.

0:29:290:29:32

To lose one of them, one of them to say, "I want to stay in the UK",

0:29:320:29:37

would break my heart, I think.

0:29:370:29:39

We may have to face up to that.

0:29:390:29:41

It might be a reality that could happen.

0:29:410:29:43

Yeah. Just have to take it a step at a time.

0:29:430:29:47

When it came to the final decision, which way did they vote?

0:29:470:29:50

This has been my dream, but now it's time for the family to vote.

0:29:500:29:54

Based on what we've experienced in Australia this week,

0:29:540:29:57

our vote is going to be...

0:29:570:29:58

..Australia.

0:30:030:30:05

-Australia.

-Australia.

0:30:050:30:07

Whether or not the family had the same vision for the future

0:30:070:30:11

was on the turn of the last card.

0:30:110:30:12

Halfway.

0:30:120:30:14

-I'm shocked at you, Christopher.

-Yeah.

0:30:150:30:19

-I thought it'd be a half or...

-You've been ill since you've been here, but you looked over that.

0:30:190:30:24

-Hats off to you. That's a bit better than I expected. I thought...

-You'd go UK.

0:30:240:30:29

Thank you. That's peace of mind for us.

0:30:290:30:31

Thumbs up to Australia, and we'll work on that one.

0:30:320:30:35

Yeah.

0:30:350:30:37

-You can try.

-OK.

0:30:370:30:40

Lynn Horn had dreamt of living in Australia since she was a child...

0:30:480:30:51

..but their week in Adelaide raised big worries

0:30:530:30:55

about whether they could afford to go.

0:30:550:30:58

Just realising that it might not ever happen.

0:31:000:31:03

Once year on, could Lynn decide between splitting up her family

0:31:050:31:09

and giving up on her dream?

0:31:090:31:10

At the end of their week down under,

0:31:110:31:14

the Horns were within touching distance of a move to Australia,

0:31:140:31:18

but with Kirsty still worried about leaving home,

0:31:180:31:21

a huge question mark hung over their future.

0:31:210:31:24

So, one year on, we caught up with them

0:31:240:31:27

to find out if anything's changed.

0:31:270:31:29

It's autumn 2011, and after their experiences down under,

0:31:310:31:35

the family are still living in Herne Bay in Kent.

0:31:350:31:38

So, what's happened since we last saw them?

0:31:390:31:41

And do they still feel the same way about life in Australia?

0:31:410:31:46

The trip to Australia was amazing.

0:31:460:31:48

It opened our eyes and it just showed us the life that we could have.

0:31:480:31:53

-Just the lifestyle, in general, wasn't it?

-Yeah.

0:31:530:31:55

Just convinced us that that's definitely what we want to do.

0:31:550:31:58

Unfortunately, you know, we applied when the recession kicked in

0:31:580:32:02

in the UK, and we just watched our finances crumble.

0:32:020:32:07

So, the budget we wanted to go with...

0:32:070:32:10

we've just seen disappear.

0:32:100:32:13

Ideally, we would've loved to

0:32:130:32:15

have come back, sorted everything and gone.

0:32:150:32:17

But in reality, you can't always do that,

0:32:170:32:19

and it was a bit of an anticlimax, cos you had to come back

0:32:190:32:22

and then sip back into your old jobs and your old way of life.

0:32:220:32:26

Kirsty's now left school.

0:32:260:32:28

She then went and got a job,

0:32:280:32:30

Christopher's still working down at the golf club,

0:32:300:32:32

but he's now doing an NVQ.

0:32:320:32:34

So, I think life has just gone on.

0:32:340:32:37

We've sort of been on hold for a few months,

0:32:370:32:39

purely because of the financial situation.

0:32:390:32:42

And just out of the blue, someone's offered to buy my business,

0:32:420:32:46

or has made me an offer for the business,

0:32:460:32:49

which really has given us the golden ticket to go to Australia.

0:32:490:32:53

But once the guy did make the offer for the business,

0:32:530:32:55

we then approached Christopher and Kirsty, and that's when...

0:32:550:33:00

Yeah, that's when it all kicked off with the emotions with them,

0:33:000:33:04

finding out their true decisions of whether they wanted to go or not.

0:33:040:33:08

Selling Andy's business has opened the door

0:33:080:33:11

to emigrating down under all over again.

0:33:110:33:13

And there have been more big changes at home for Kirsty,

0:33:130:33:16

after the break-up of her relationship with Calum.

0:33:160:33:19

I voted undecided because of the boyfriend I was with.

0:33:190:33:23

But as soon as I split up with my boyfriend,

0:33:230:33:26

I was ready to go to Australia, straight away.

0:33:260:33:28

Since then, it's changed and it was...

0:33:280:33:31

well, it was my brother that was undecisive,

0:33:310:33:34

because he got a girlfriend.

0:33:340:33:37

Yeah, and it's just flipped.

0:33:370:33:39

We started seeing each other just before we went to Adelaide,

0:33:390:33:42

18 months ago now.

0:33:420:33:45

-Yeah, yeah.

-Bit more than that. I was a bit worried about...

0:33:450:33:50

Mum and Dad giving up their lives here,

0:33:500:33:52

cos my mum's got her perfect job and Dad's got his own business

0:33:520:33:57

and they've got a house and, I mean, they're sorted, really.

0:33:570:34:00

Um...

0:34:000:34:02

But they'd be giving up all of that...

0:34:020:34:04

just to move somewhere else

0:34:040:34:06

and I thought that was a bit too much at the time, but...

0:34:060:34:08

And then...leaving Olivia, I didn't want to do that.

0:34:080:34:13

As one relationship ended, another seemed to leave the Horns

0:34:130:34:16

in exactly the same situation they faced in Australia.

0:34:160:34:21

We all had a long chat, just talked about everything, really,

0:34:210:34:25

to do with the whole move. Just...

0:34:250:34:28

Yeah, it was a long discussion.

0:34:280:34:30

Um... Very long discussion.

0:34:300:34:32

Well, Mum and Dad just wanted us to say yes, basically.

0:34:320:34:37

Erm...

0:34:370:34:39

I wanted... I was undecisive at the meeting...

0:34:390:34:43

erm, because I wanted to go,

0:34:430:34:45

but I didn't believe it would actually happen.

0:34:450:34:48

Purely because the trip out to Australia was like a dream.

0:34:480:34:51

And Chris just said he didn't want to go,

0:34:510:34:53

and that was hard for all of us,

0:34:530:34:55

because it's either all of us going out there or none of us.

0:34:550:34:58

Chris was adamant he wanted to stay in the UK...

0:34:580:35:00

..because of the girlfriend issue.

0:35:010:35:03

There probably were a couple of other issues as well, but...

0:35:030:35:06

we threw the wild card at him, like a blackmail card, at the very end,

0:35:060:35:12

and said, "Look, you do know if you stay here,

0:35:120:35:14

"you are destroying Lynn's dreams."

0:35:140:35:18

And, er...

0:35:180:35:20

Well, it made him realise that if he didn't want to come with us,

0:35:200:35:24

that we just basically wouldn't go.

0:35:240:35:26

It's quite upsetting for all of us, really, but...

0:35:260:35:29

I think it's done some good for us all,

0:35:290:35:33

cos we told each other how we felt about the move, and...

0:35:330:35:37

kind of cleared the air a bit.

0:35:370:35:39

It looked as if a move down under was back at square one

0:35:390:35:43

but, as it turned out,

0:35:430:35:45

facing their true feelings may have been exactly what the Horns needed.

0:35:450:35:49

There were lots of tears, and then he...

0:35:490:35:52

We came up with the solution of possibly asking Olivia

0:35:520:35:56

and seeing if she wanted to come out with us.

0:35:560:35:58

And that seemed to sort of sway him the other way, so...

0:35:580:36:02

And then he made the decision that he wanted to come.

0:36:020:36:05

I'm more than happy that Olivia's coming with us -

0:36:050:36:08

it's like an extra bonus for us.

0:36:080:36:10

You know, not only is our dream back on, but...

0:36:100:36:13

you know, with Christopher taking out his girlfriend as well,

0:36:130:36:16

it's going to be great, I think.

0:36:160:36:18

I feel excited about it.

0:36:180:36:20

At the same time, I feel very nervous leaving my mum

0:36:200:36:24

and everything that I've known behind.

0:36:240:36:27

But at the same time, it's a good quality of life out there -

0:36:270:36:30

it's something that you can only experience once

0:36:300:36:33

and I'd like to give it a go.

0:36:330:36:35

After a big turnaround, the whole Horn family

0:36:420:36:46

are now well and truly on board with the move.

0:36:460:36:48

All that's holding them back is the small matter of affording it.

0:36:480:36:52

It is still about the finance.

0:36:520:36:54

Obviously if the business sells and then the house sells, we can go.

0:36:540:36:58

That's simple as. Um...

0:36:580:36:59

But we've come up with compromises that if the house doesn't sell,

0:36:590:37:03

we can rent the house out and we can still go.

0:37:030:37:06

Um, the crux of the matter was, obviously, Andy selling his business.

0:37:060:37:10

So, as long as that one goes OK then we can still go.

0:37:100:37:14

18 months ago, the work was very slack

0:37:140:37:16

and the price of the business was dipping and dipping.

0:37:160:37:19

But now it's picking up again, I've got this potential buyer, so if all goes well...

0:37:190:37:24

We're obviously not going to get the money we want for the business,

0:37:240:37:28

but...it is still an offer

0:37:280:37:30

and it's money that could get us to Australia.

0:37:300:37:33

As soon as we got the buyer for the business on board,

0:37:330:37:36

that sort of seemed to sort of spark everything going again.

0:37:360:37:39

And now it's sort of getting a bit exciting,

0:37:390:37:42

cos the house is going to go on the market and, you know,

0:37:420:37:44

everybody's all positive about it, so that's really good.

0:37:440:37:47

I can't get excited yet.

0:37:470:37:49

You've got to be reserved with your emotions, I think.

0:37:490:37:52

Until you've actually seen the signatures,

0:37:520:37:54

you've got the finances there and you've got the flights all booked,

0:37:540:37:59

THEN I'll start getting excited.

0:37:590:38:01

Selling his glazing business is key to the family's hopes,

0:38:010:38:05

but Andy still has concerns about starting all over again.

0:38:050:38:09

In the back of my mind,

0:38:090:38:10

I've always had a little doubt about going to Australia,

0:38:100:38:14

how it's going to affect me once I'm there.

0:38:140:38:17

Am I going to miss this side of the business? I mean, I'm self-employed.

0:38:170:38:21

I can do what I want. If I want to sneak off for a game of golf, I can.

0:38:210:38:24

But if you're working for someone, you can't really do that.

0:38:240:38:28

So, I think I will miss that side.

0:38:280:38:31

Despite the worries, moving plans are now well under way,

0:38:310:38:34

and the Horns CAN see a future in Australia.

0:38:340:38:37

You know, the dreams have sort of...

0:38:370:38:40

..come true a bit.

0:38:410:38:43

But it's still six months till we could be going, and possibly more.

0:38:430:38:48

It has been frustrating, because I've left school.

0:38:480:38:51

I can't go to uni, because I'll be leaving halfway through the year.

0:38:510:38:56

But you can't speed up,

0:38:560:38:59

like, the selling of a house or the selling of a business.

0:38:590:39:03

It just goes as it goes.

0:39:030:39:04

It's very frustrating sometimes.

0:39:040:39:07

We keep thinking about Australia and Adelaide. I can't wait to get out there,

0:39:070:39:11

so I hope everything goes well this end, so we can get out there.

0:39:110:39:15

The sale of the business is a big step towards the dream,

0:39:200:39:24

but there's still another financial obstacle

0:39:240:39:27

barring the road to Australia - selling the family home.

0:39:270:39:30

And with a local estate agent due to value the property,

0:39:300:39:33

today could be make or break.

0:39:330:39:35

-Right, this is the main bedroom.

-Right, fantastic.

0:39:350:39:39

This room's great. OK.

0:39:390:39:41

-Onwards we go.

-We've got the bathroom.

-Bathroom next?

-Yeah.

0:39:410:39:45

It's still the original suite, there, isn't it?

0:39:450:39:47

But you can't go wrong with white.

0:39:470:39:49

Bedroom three.

0:39:490:39:50

Still a decent single size.

0:39:500:39:52

Onwards we go. Number two.

0:39:520:39:54

-That's all three.

-OK.

0:39:560:39:58

-Right. Downstairs cloakroom?

-Yeah.

0:39:580:40:01

And that's obviously got all the fuses and...

0:40:010:40:04

-Right, kitchen. Gas hob here.

-Yes. Electric.

0:40:050:40:09

-Electric oven and extractor hood.

-Yes, all clean!

-Clean oven!

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Marvellous. Right, back to the main room?

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Then the conservatory after that.

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Now, you did this conservatory, didn't you, Andy?

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Yes, I did. With a little bit of help.

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And into the conservatory.

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The Horns believe their home is worth £175,000.

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But with their future plans depending on the outcome,

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will the estate agent agree?

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Great house. I want you to feel confident about this property

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coming on to the market, and valuation-wise...

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the value for this property will be 170 to 175.

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-OK.

-And should you require,

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or want to go down plan B, which is the rental option,

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you should be able to realise,

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in this current climate, £800 per calendar month.

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-There you go.

-That's really good.

-That is good news.

-Yeah.

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-Yeah, that's good news on plan A AND plan B.

-I think so.

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-Yeah, thank you very much.

-You're welcome.

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-I'll speak to you soon. Thanks again.

-Thank you.

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That's exactly what Lynn and Andy were hoping to hear.

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-That was very good news.

-It was, wasn't it?

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Yeah, that price range - 170, 175, that's...

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That's what we wanted, wasn't it?

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-So, we're happy with that, aren't we?

-A confidence booster.

-Yeah.

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-More than happy with that.

-Yeah.

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With the final piece of the puzzle falling into place,

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Lynn's dream of moving to Australia seems to be finally within reach.

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We've been waiting for it for about two or three years now.

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It's very exciting.

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It is. Very, very exciting.

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But scary at the same time. People think it is really easy.

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Especially once you've experienced the life, there's no comparison.

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But there are still a lot of ties that are pulling us this way,

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even though we've made the decision that we want to go.

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Leaving family and friends, I think, is definitely the hardest part.

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Especially for Olivia, cos she's going to be joining my family,

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-and leaving her whole family, really, aren't you?

-Yeah.

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It is a huge step, just leaving everything I've known behind.

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But you have to take risks

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and it's a risk that I'm willing to take, really.

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Australia can provide a great place for my kids to grow up,

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and their kids to grow up, whereas here, it's...

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There's nothing here for us.

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Even though we've got a lot to leave behind this side...

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we know we've got a lot more to get the other side of the world.

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In life, you've got to grab what you can.

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And if that dream's there for us then go for it.

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A move to Australia seems closer than ever for the Horn family.

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There's still a little work to do before they can fire up the barbie,

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but the future they dreamt of looks to be in sight.

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We wish them the very best of luck.

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