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Moving your family is extremely stressful.

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But when it involves taking them to the other side of the world,

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it could push everyone to their limits.

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In 2012, the Orrett family faced a massive decision -

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whether to stay in the UK or start a new life in Australia.

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One year on, we've caught up with them to find out how

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and where they are now.

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Gill and Stuart Orrett were desperate to move closer to their eldest

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daughter, Christine, and get to know their first granddaughter, Olivia,

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-who was growing up thousands of miles away.

-She changes every day.

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It's something that...can only make you beam inside with happiness

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and pleasure, more than anything else.

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But Australia didn't live up to expectations.

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I'm sorry, but this is horrendous.

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And the whole family faced heartbreaking decisions.

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We knew we'd have to make this choice between being

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there for our parents and being here for our kids and our grandchildren.

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It's a tough one.

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Oh, come on.

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So one year on, are the Orretts finally reunited on the other

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side of the world?

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I personally don't question whether we made the right decision.

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The future for us is very exciting.

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Australia's the most popular destination for Brits emigrating abroad.

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They're tempted by the promise of a better life down under.

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But the reality of leaving behind everything and everyone

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can sometimes turn that dream into a nightmare.

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In 2012, the Orrett family set off on a journey

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they hoped would change their lives forever.

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They'd just one week to decide whether to leave behind friends

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and loved ones so they could be closer to their baby granddaughter.

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Today we're going back to see what happened to the Orretts.

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In 2012, Stuart and Gill Orrett were living in Chester.

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Stuart worked in catering while wife Gill was a paramedic.

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Of their four children, the two youngest, Matt, then 14,

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and Lauren, 17, were still living at home.

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They were enjoying life, but at a cost.

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For the past 20 years, Stuart had been working incredibly long hours to

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-build up his catering business.

-These days I don't...

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I mean, I might do a 60-, 70-hour week,

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but that feels part-time to me.

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When you've done...probably 100 plus hours a week,

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going down to 60 or 70, it's like being let off early.

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You feel guilty coming home.

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Providing for his family had meant missing out on seeing

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-some of his children grow up.

-It has taken its toll.

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I, um...feel as though with the two older children

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I didn't spend as much time with them as I do with the younger ones.

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And...'cause we were developing the businesses when they were young.

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Stuart and Gill have two other daughters - Samantha,

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who's spent a lot of time working away on cruise ships,

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was happy to emigrate,

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and eldest daughter Christine was already living in Australia.

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With Christine expecting her first baby, Stuart and Gill were desperate

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to move down under and bring their family together.

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Christine's emigrated out there in January

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and married to a chap who lives in Perth and having a baby.

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So it's going to be our first grandchild.

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And we just feel this is a big sort of transition in our lives.

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We don't want to be just visiting them for two or three months

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-and have to come back here.

-But moving wasn't going to be easy.

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As a qualified paramedic, Gill was the only family member

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eligible for a visa, and that meant finding work in Australia.

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It's our ticket into Australia, me getting a job, so we do feel as

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if there's a certain responsibility on my shoulders at the moment -

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is to...you know, for the family.

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You know, I will feel quite disappointed if I let them

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down by not getting a job.

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And the clock was ticking.

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With the age limit for a skilled migration visa set at 50,

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Gill was running out of time.

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-You know, the years just sort of ticked by, didn't they?

-They did.

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And then we realised...

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Keep talking about it - we're going to have to do it.

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Fortunately, the children shared Mum and Dad's ideas on emigrating.

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I think it's quite good because there's,

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like, nothing here in England for, like, me and my brother any more.

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My sister's moved and she's doing her own thing.

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We've always had it on our mind for, like, the past year or so.

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Me and my dad are, like, set. We want to go.

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My mum keeps it to herself a bit. She's like, "Well, this and that."

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She takes everything into consideration when me

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and my dad are just like, "Yeah, whatever. Let's just do it."

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However, the ideal life in Australia could mean potential

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heartache for the Orretts and those they loved.

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I do think things through, I must admit.

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And I think this is probably why I'm at the moment coming over a little

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bit more hesitant than he is.

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Talking about Stuart's parents -

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they're not going to be able to travel over to Australia.

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We know that. They won't make that journey.

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The people I would miss the most are obviously my parents. Um...

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There's...you know... That would be the hardest thing of all.

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Everything would rest on their week in Australia.

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Could they find the life they were dreaming of,

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or would it be too difficult to leave family and friends behind?

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Thanks to its warm Mediterranean climate

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and plenty of job opportunities,

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Perth looked like the perfect place for the Orretts to explore.

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But it wasn't just the appeal of big city living than interested them.

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Because their daughter Christine and her new family were already there,

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Stuart and Gill were desperate to see

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if they could make a go of it in the city as well.

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All the Orretts, including older sister Samantha,

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made the 10,000-mile, 24-hour trip to Perth.

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And their first priority when they arrived was to meet the new arrival.

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This was what the move was all about -

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a chance to bring their family together again.

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Hello.

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I'd come over to Australia about two weeks ago

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for the birth of my first grandchild.

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Um...Stuart, my husband,

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came over about a week after and...while he was in flight,

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our eldest daughter gave birth to a lovely 8-pound, 1-ounce little girl.

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So cute.

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It's...really opens your eyes to see your eldest with a baby of her own

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and a new family starting.

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We're going to be considering our grandchildren as well as our own children.

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My mum and dad have come grandparents like ducks to water, really.

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Bit scary at first, but, yeah, they're enjoying it.

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Think everyone wants a hold all at once, so...

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Especially my dad when he gets a minute. He sneaks off with her.

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To be able to hold Olivia on a daily basis is fabulous.

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And just been tremendous,

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just watching expressions change as her face starts to open up a little bit.

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Everyone was smitten with the new baby, but the Orretts had only seven

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days to see if they could make a life here.

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I don't know. It's going to be difficult with her being the other side of the world.

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Hopefully we'll be here to spoil her and watch her grow up,

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but...only time will tell.

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Beautiful girl, aren't you? Yeah.

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The Orretts' stayed near Christine in the Rockingham area of Perth.

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Their accommodation for the week would give them

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a good idea of Australian-style living.

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-Oh.

-LAUREN:

-This is nice, isn't it?

-It's good.

-I like it open plan.

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The layout went down well.

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How do you turn on the TV?

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-SAMANTHA:

-You get the remote.

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And then you...you can watch it when you're cleaning all the dishes.

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Nice try, Stuart. Overall, the reactions were positive.

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-GILL:

-For rented accommodation, yeah, I like it. Do you?

-Yeah.

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It's OK. It's practical for what we need at the moment.

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It's a good base. The area's right for us to have a look.

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Everything seems simplistic, which is ideal for what we need.

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Back in the UK,

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the Orretts were renting a four-bedroom house in Chester.

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They had a budget of £350,000 mortgage free to around £500,000

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if they took out a mortgage.

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An Australian home would have to give them

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everything they needed straight away.

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I think what I'm looking for in an Australian house is

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-I would like a pool.

-Snooker table.

-I like the open plan living.

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-Easier to maintain.

-Some outside space to entertain.

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-A hot tub or something.

-Modern.

-Modern.

-A nice balcony.

-Games room.

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We would very much like to be able to just move in,

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put our furniture there and go out and enjoy the Australian lifestyle.

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The family had strong ideas about what

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they wanted from a house in Perth, but couldn't be sure

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their budget would be enough to buy them their dream home.

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Australian house prices had been rising while exchange rates

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and property prices had dropped in the UK.

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We gave the Orretts a taste of the housing market in Perth.

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We lined up three properties based on their price range

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and what they wanted from their ideal home.

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Only after seeing what was on offer would we reveal how much they cost.

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The first house was in the Secret Harbour area.

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An hour from Perth city centre and in an established neighbourhood,

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there were plenty of facilities nearby for families.

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This four-bedroom house was typically Aussie in style.

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-Oh, this is nice, isn't it?

-This must be the lounge.

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-SAMANTHA:

-It's a big lounge, I think, though, Mum.

-Big lounge, isn't it?

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-Especially when...

-I think it's quite dark, though.

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-Kitchen's nice. It's got cupboards. It's got walk-in cupboards.

-Has it?

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I love that.

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It was sounding positive,

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but would this be a house worth moving across the world for?

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No, there's nothing that I've walked in and gone, like,

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-"Wow, that's amazing."

-No. It hasn't got the wow factor.

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It's got the sensibility factor.

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But not the wow factor.

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It's got "within our grasp" factor.

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It wasn't a great start for the Orretts' dream,

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but there was one feature that would lift their spirits.

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See the pool? This is my ideal outdoor space. It's lovely.

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It's not overlooked.

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This would probably be a very good stepping stone property -

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to feel our way over here and find out our actual needs

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when we get here.

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Overall, the house wasn't wowing the family,

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but would it be one Stuart and Gill could see themselves living in?

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Perhaps the price would make it more appealing.

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OK, Sam. Would you like to do the honours?

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Wow.

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-That's good.

-That's cheap.

-That's OK.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-That's acceptable.

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-It's about what I thought it was probably worth.

-Yeah.

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-In all honesty, so there's no shocks there.

-No.

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£358,000 was well within their £500,000 budget,

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-but that wasn't enough for Lauren.

-You'd be comfortable in this house?

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Nah, I think it's too boring. I think there's no view.

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I don't think there's anything exciting about it.

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I think it's more for, like, an...old people.

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Lauren was setting the bar pretty high, but Australian houses weren't

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really exciting the rest of the family either.

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Perhaps the second house would bring them round.

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Also in Secret Harbour,

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this four-bedroom house was big enough for the Orretts and had

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a style that wasn't typically Aussie on the outside...or on the inside.

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Ooh. That surprised me.

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Expected that to be a bit more open plan there. Yeah.

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There was just something about the look that wasn't working.

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-It's not a typical Australian home, I feel. It's...

-Too English.

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Too British.

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-And things went from bad to worse.

-I'm sorry, but this is horrendous.

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-Yeah.

-It's not what I'd expect to see.

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Maybe the unusual feature in the open plan living room would add some appeal.

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I wouldn't imagine a kitchen, dining room, snooker table

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rather than a kitchen, dining room, lounge.

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Luckily there was something not

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so typically English to bring the family round.

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-That's a nice pool. I love this pool.

-Look out.

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-This bar area is...it's very usable.

-HE LAUGHS

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-The outside bit, I think, is so cool.

-I like it.

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While the house wasn't to everyone's taste,

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the outdoor space certainly tickled the family's fancy.

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But was it affordable on their £500,000 budget?

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Moment of truth.

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Let's see what this is all about.

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-£467,000.

-No.

-AU750,000.

-No. I think that's...

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No, that is well overpriced in my estimation.

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It wasn't their idea of good value, but that could mean

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they were overestimating what they could achieve on their budget.

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It would all boil down to the last property.

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Staying in Secret Harbour, the third house was closer to the beach

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and surrounded by lots of open spaces.

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With plenty of room for the family,

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perhaps they could see themselves living in this five-bedroom house.

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-That's nice, isn't it?

-MATT:

-Oh, my God.

-Oh, that's nice. Oh, my!

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-You want to see this?

-SHE LAUGHS

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Oh, wow.

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-Now, this is an entrance, isn't it?

-This is a lot better.

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-Oh, it's gorgeous, isn't it?

-Yeah, it's nice.

-Oh, my God.

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It looked like they could imagine living here.

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-Oh. Oh.

-Oh, my God.

-This is fab, isn't it?

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Oh, it's dead good, isn't it?

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-Stuart, get me a drink from the kitchen.

-This is stunning.

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This is my ideal house.

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-And it wasn't just the inside winning Gill over.

-Perfect.

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-I need this house.

-Do you, darling?

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-Yeah. I need this house.

-SHE LAUGHS

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-You NEED?

-I do.

-And what do you NEED about this house?

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Well, this is moving to Australia, isn't it? Look at it.

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The Orretts seemed to have finally arrived.

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I feel like I'm at home already.

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You've got your long drive, your gates and your hammock and your...

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Yeah, and my jacuzzi. And a barbecue.

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I think it's...I think it's gorgeous.

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I feel really comfortable here.

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This house got a great reaction all around,

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but there was still the small matter of the price.

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Ready? OK. No sharp intake of breath.

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-The house cost nearly £600,000.

-That's not bad.

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-Do you know what, that is actually...

-That is not...

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I thought it'd be well over 1 million.

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-That's not out of our reach completely. Is it?

-No.

-Nod, Stuart.

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HE LAUGHS

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It's just, um...it's certainly one to think about, isn't it?

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-What do you think, kids? Like the house?

-Yes.

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-If we move here, I'll do all the cleaning.

-What was that, Matthew?

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I'll do some cleaning.

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Nice try, Matthew, but affording this house would mean taking out a large

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mortgage, never mind the housework.

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So what did the Orretts make of Perth houses?

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The first one was within budget,

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and somewhere Gill and Stuart could call home - just.

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The second house was far too British in its styling

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and just didn't excite.

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But the third property was everything the Orretts had imagined, even if

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it would mean straining their chequebook.

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Based on our experience of Australian property,

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we are voting for...

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-UK.

-Australia!

-Australia.

-Australia.

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-UK, Lauren?

-HE CHUCKLES

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-Yeah.

-Why have you said that?

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Because I don't think there's anything interesting.

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I think that out of the three houses that we've seen, only one of them

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is, like, amazing,

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and the two others are like typical English houses.

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And we're moving from England to, like, have a fresh start,

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so what's the point of going to another house which is

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exactly the...well,

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pretty much similar to the one that we've got in England?

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So the most expensive house would obviously

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swing your judgement at the end of the day.

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-Yeah.

-Just a diva.

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In the UK, Stuart was running a busy catering company that he'd built

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up from scratch over 20 years.

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However, the recession meant the business had been suffering.

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It's been a very hard slog in comparison to what it was in, like,

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the glory years of maybe ten years ago.

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Stuart was hoping to sell his business

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and work for someone else in Australia, but it was Gill

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and her paramedic qualifications that held the key to emigrating.

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It's our ticket into Australia, me getting a job,

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so I do feel as if there's a certain responsibility on my shoulders

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at the moment for the family.

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You know, I will feel quite disappointed if I let them

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down by not getting a job.

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In Perth, we arranged for Gill to spend some time at the St John emergency centre.

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Expat Christian started off her day by showing Gill what

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she could be driving.

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Looks smaller than what I'm used to working on.

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Absolutely. It's about half the size, I think, of a UK ambulance.

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-Not a lot of room, is there?

-It's good to be short.

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While Gill got to grips with an Aussie ambulance,

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Stuart was off exploring his job prospects with a local catering firm.

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He was hoping that becoming an employee would mean an end to

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the long hours he'd been putting in back home.

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So, Stuart, this is our production kitchen.

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Owner Michael Davis showed Stuart around.

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We have a team of staff that work over here, polish everything,

0:19:080:19:11

straight back on the shelf ready to go again.

0:19:110:19:13

I have a couple of women who work for me who would die for this.

0:19:130:19:16

HE LAUGHS

0:19:160:19:18

Stuart was in familiar territory and enjoyed the tour.

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Across town, Gill was getting down to the details of being

0:19:210:19:24

a paramedic in Australia.

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As the main breadwinner, everything would depend on her potential salary.

0:19:260:19:30

Christian, could you tell me how I could be expected to earn

0:19:300:19:34

as a paramedic with three years' experience in Western Australia?

0:19:340:19:36

Well, a paramedic that's worked between one

0:19:360:19:38

-and three years would be on about 80,700 a year.

-Oh.

0:19:380:19:42

-That's rather a lot more than I'm earning in the UK.

-Yeah.

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That includes all your shift allowances

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and all your unsocial hours.

0:19:460:19:48

Probably approximately double to what I'm earning at the moment in the UK.

0:19:480:19:53

-Yeah.

-So, yeah, very encouraging.

0:19:530:19:55

It is very encouraging. It's a very well paid job here.

0:19:550:19:57

That was great news for Gill and the Orretts' hopes of affording the move.

0:19:570:20:02

At the catering company, Stuart was keen to hear

0:20:020:20:04

if a job would mean escaping the punishing hours he put in back home.

0:20:040:20:08

What sort of hours do you start, finish, etc?

0:20:090:20:12

Particularly with weekends?

0:20:120:20:14

The reason that we've focused so heavily on corporate catering,

0:20:140:20:17

it's Monday to Friday, it's during the day.

0:20:170:20:19

I'm home at every night to have dinner with the kids.

0:20:190:20:22

We work very hard when we're at work,

0:20:220:20:24

but we have a fantastic balance to our life.

0:20:240:20:28

Sounds the sort of thing I'd like to do.

0:20:280:20:30

Regular hours were just what Stuart wanted,

0:20:300:20:32

but how would the salary compare?

0:20:320:20:34

We'd be looking at an average wage of about 60,000 per year.

0:20:340:20:38

It's certainly I'd be interested in, particularly with the hours as well.

0:20:380:20:42

That'd be...in my eyes, I'd be working part-time for a sensible wage,

0:20:420:20:46

which is something I'd be interested in.

0:20:460:20:48

It was a great morning for Stuart and Gill, and on meeting up,

0:20:480:20:52

they were excited to share their news.

0:20:520:20:54

So what sort of hours would you be doing?

0:20:540:20:56

You wouldn't be doing 5:00 in the morning starts

0:20:560:20:58

and work till 7:00 at night still, would you?

0:20:580:21:01

-No, it'd be part-time - 40 hours a week.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:21:010:21:03

I just couldn't believe 40 hours a week is achievable even for people

0:21:030:21:07

who own the company.

0:21:070:21:08

You know, it had to offer something pretty special to leave what I've

0:21:080:21:11

got in the UK, but, yeah, the salary here is double what I'm earning in the UK.

0:21:110:21:17

-We're on a win-win situation, by the sounds of it.

-HE LAUGHS

0:21:170:21:20

So when it came to working in Australia, which way did they vote?

0:21:200:21:25

Based on our work experience in Australia, we are voting for...

0:21:250:21:28

-Australia!

-Australia!

0:21:360:21:39

That was a surprise...not.

0:21:390:21:41

Gill and Stuart's work prospects in Australia were looking promising, but

0:21:450:21:49

taking a hard look at their finances could be an unwelcome wake-up call.

0:21:490:21:53

Renting in the UK meant they weren't relying on the sale of a house,

0:21:530:21:57

so they could go straight to the cost of living.

0:21:570:21:59

We provide a breakdown of their expenses.

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It was now time for them to work out

0:22:020:22:04

-if they could actually afford to live down under.

-Oh, bacon's cheaper.

0:22:040:22:08

-You'd be all right for your bacon butties in the morning.

-That's it.

0:22:080:22:11

I'd probably spend £90.87 in the UK.

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And the same shop here would cost me £137.67 a week,

0:22:140:22:20

which makes...I'll be spending £46.80 a week more.

0:22:200:22:24

-So it's probably £180 a month.

-Yeah, rounding up.

0:22:240:22:28

The cost of a weekly food shop wasn't the best start.

0:22:280:22:32

Next came the bigger costs.

0:22:320:22:34

So we have a monthly income figure of £5,644.67,

0:22:340:22:39

which basically gives us

0:22:390:22:42

£1,144.67 increase by living in Australia per month.

0:22:420:22:49

It was a healthy boost in income, but basing the figures on the cheapest

0:22:500:22:54

house they saw, would it allow them to take on a bigger mortgage?

0:22:540:22:58

So we'd be £74 a month worse off living in Australia.

0:22:580:23:03

Quite a surprise to me considering my income's increased an awful lot.

0:23:030:23:08

I think this is probably mainly due the mortgage costs

0:23:080:23:12

'cause the interest rates here on mortgages are more expensive.

0:23:120:23:15

Shock, no. Reality check, yes.

0:23:150:23:19

£74 a month wasn't a huge amount,

0:23:200:23:23

so on paper it was looking like the Orretts could afford Australia,

0:23:230:23:27

but only if they opted for the house they least liked.

0:23:270:23:30

Was that a sacrifice worth making?

0:23:300:23:32

Based on our reality check, we are voting for...

0:23:330:23:36

-Australia.

-Undecided.

0:23:430:23:46

Why have you voted Australia?

0:23:460:23:48

We're not going to be much worse off, but we are going to benefit

0:23:480:23:51

from, you know, obviously from seeing our grandchild, the weather.

0:23:510:23:55

The whole lifestyle here will benefit us as a family.

0:23:550:23:58

Seeing their living costs in black and white was a shock for Gill,

0:24:020:24:06

but a move down under was always about being together as a family.

0:24:060:24:11

With Stuart working long hours and Gill doing shifts in the UK,

0:24:110:24:14

spending time outdoors was rare and limited by the British weather.

0:24:140:24:19

The Orretts visited Fremantle Harbour to enjoy one of their favourite activities -

0:24:190:24:24

a spot of fishing.

0:24:240:24:25

It would offer a taste of what Australia could be about for them.

0:24:250:24:29

Our motivation to move here is to change our lifestyle.

0:24:290:24:33

It's to spend more time outside as a family.

0:24:330:24:36

As the kids grow up, we'll start to lose the communication with them

0:24:360:24:39

and they'll start going their own way,

0:24:390:24:41

so it's important for us to have the last couple of years

0:24:410:24:43

we can with them as family doing things we all enjoy, really.

0:24:430:24:47

-SHE LAUGHS

-Hey, hey! Lovely!

0:24:470:24:49

-SHE LAUGHS, SCREAMS

-Oh, it's a tiny one.

0:24:490:24:53

All right. Thank you.

0:24:530:24:55

The Australian weather was helping the Orretts experience

0:24:560:24:59

the kind of outdoor lifestyle they could enjoy together, but it also

0:24:590:25:03

brought home for them just how big a decision they still faced.

0:25:030:25:07

We're here at the moment enjoying this wonderful lifestyle,

0:25:070:25:10

and I'm really...I'm trying to put family in the UK to

0:25:100:25:13

the back of my mind.

0:25:130:25:14

Particularly don't know how Stuart's going to deal with it

0:25:140:25:17

with his parents.

0:25:170:25:18

I'm very close to my parents and...they've always been

0:25:190:25:23

there for me and I've always been there for them.

0:25:230:25:25

To take that safety blanket away is going to be a big, big, you know,

0:25:250:25:29

wrench for me particularly.

0:25:290:25:31

So would the Orretts be hooked by the lifestyle

0:25:340:25:36

they could enjoy down under?

0:25:360:25:39

We've had a fantastic day fishing today,

0:25:400:25:42

and based on the Australian lifestyle, we are voting for...

0:25:420:25:46

-GILL, SAMANTHA AND LAUREN:

-Australia!

-STUART AND MATT:

-Undecided!

0:25:570:26:00

-Oh. Why?

-SHE LAUGHS

0:26:000:26:02

-Cos you didn't catch any fish.

-Sore losers.

0:26:020:26:06

SHE CHEERS

0:26:070:26:09

Voting against the girls just because they caught less fish?

0:26:090:26:12

That's what I call unsporting!

0:26:120:26:15

Emigrating would mean the Orretts

0:26:190:26:21

saying goodbye to loved ones in the UK.

0:26:210:26:24

The family decided to watch messages from friends and family together.

0:26:240:26:27

Would it make them rethink their move?

0:26:270:26:30

Hi, Stuart. Hi, Gill. Hi, kids.

0:26:300:26:32

-Hope you're having a great time there.

-Hi, Stu.

-Hello, Stu.

0:26:320:26:36

Hope you're enjoying yourself.

0:26:360:26:37

-Hello!

-Hello!

0:26:370:26:39

-Yay!

-We miss you.

0:26:390:26:40

Gill and Stuart and the family, they're very supportive of each other

0:26:400:26:44

and very caring towards each other.

0:26:440:26:46

They're great fun to be with,

0:26:490:26:51

they're committed 100% to whatever they're doing.

0:26:510:26:55

And, well, Stuart, I'd say, is like his mother - he's soft.

0:26:550:26:58

-It's true.

-He takes everybody's worries on himself. You know?

0:26:590:27:04

He's a good-hearted lad. Very good-hearted.

0:27:040:27:07

She's been my best friend since I was four and stuff

0:27:070:27:10

and it's going to be, like, a big part of my life, like, gone, yeah.

0:27:100:27:15

-We really felt...

-It wasn't going to be a holiday.

0:27:160:27:19

..we'd better be prepared because we're going to be told they're going

0:27:190:27:23

to want to go to Australia.

0:27:230:27:26

To think they're all going so far away, it is pretty difficult.

0:27:280:27:32

-We would really miss them, wouldn't we?

-Yeah, we would.

0:27:330:27:36

It's only when they're packing and they go,

0:27:360:27:41

we'll sit down and we'll realise they've gone.

0:27:410:27:44

And...and that's that initial link gone.

0:27:450:27:49

Oh, come on.

0:27:510:27:52

The reality check I'm seeing - friends and family -

0:27:570:28:02

is...so hard to take on board, really,

0:28:020:28:08

because you do tend to think that they're always going to be there.

0:28:080:28:13

And as much as they're there, they're a long way away.

0:28:130:28:16

We knew we'd have to make this choice between being

0:28:260:28:29

there for our parents and being here for our kids and our grandchildren.

0:28:290:28:33

-Yeah.

-It's a tough one.

0:28:340:28:36

A really tough one.

0:28:370:28:38

The week had shown the Orretts the heartache of missing family back home

0:28:420:28:46

had to weighed up against a huge positive.

0:28:460:28:50

Seeing Olivia born and obviously just a few days old,

0:28:500:28:54

how she changes every day is something that...can only, you know,

0:28:540:28:59

make you beam inside with happiness

0:28:590:29:02

and pleasure more than anything else.

0:29:020:29:04

The thought of not seeing that is very daunting

0:29:040:29:08

and not a thought I'd like to dwell on too much.

0:29:080:29:11

I still do worry when we do get on that plane,

0:29:130:29:15

if that's the decision we make, what are we leaving behind?

0:29:150:29:18

Will they be able to make this journey out here to see us?

0:29:180:29:21

Particularly Stuart's parents, who don't travel that well these days.

0:29:210:29:25

Hits home exactly how hard it is.

0:29:270:29:29

Being so close to them...

0:29:310:29:33

I don't know. It's, um...it's going to be a very hard decision to make.

0:29:350:29:40

There will always be the daily contact with them, no matter what.

0:29:400:29:43

It's just for the emergency times it's going to be hard.

0:29:470:29:50

So...

0:29:500:29:51

It was time to vote.

0:29:550:29:57

Would everyone have been convinced to make the move,

0:29:570:30:00

or would the Orretts remain divided across the globe?

0:30:000:30:03

We've had a fantastic week in Australia,

0:30:080:30:10

and based on our experiences, we have decided to live in...

0:30:100:30:14

-STUART, MATT, GILL AND SAMANTHA:

-Australia!

-Undecided.

0:30:280:30:31

-You're undecided, Lauren?

-Have you decided Australia?

-I've decided.

0:30:320:30:36

-SAMANTHA:

-Why did you say that?

-Cos I don't know. Still unsure.

0:30:360:30:40

I knew you'd be like that.

0:30:400:30:41

Like, now being here and now, like, seeing back with my friends

0:30:410:30:44

and everything, I'm just unsure.

0:30:440:30:47

-That's

-all right. How about you, Gill?

0:30:470:30:50

Just got to give it a go for the kids. For our grandchildren.

0:30:500:30:54

If we don't try it, we'll never know, will we?

0:30:540:30:57

I think Lauren could probably be convinced about the move.

0:30:570:31:00

I think it's just seeing your friends that's reminded

0:31:000:31:02

you about what you have got in the UK.

0:31:020:31:05

-Does make you a bit sad, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:31:050:31:08

I just have to bring them all along. Put them in a suitcase.

0:31:090:31:13

I think the decisions have obviously spoke volumes for the family's

0:31:130:31:17

thoughts overall.

0:31:170:31:19

Weighing up all the pros and cons of what we have to do and...I think

0:31:190:31:24

we've got to make the decision, which we have done, and go for it.

0:31:240:31:30

-HE LAUGHS

-Yeah!

-Yay!

0:31:300:31:32

After a week of emotional highs and lows,

0:31:360:31:39

daughter Lauren still hasn't been convinced about a move.

0:31:390:31:43

But Gill and Stuart seem determined to reunite their family on the other

0:31:430:31:47

side of the world.

0:31:470:31:49

So, one year on, where are they now?

0:31:490:31:51

It's 2013, and the Orretts are living in...

0:31:540:31:58

..the UK.

0:32:000:32:01

Their week down under convinced Stuart

0:32:010:32:03

and Gill that Australia was where they wanted to be.

0:32:030:32:06

It was good stepping off the plane in Perth.

0:32:060:32:08

Felt as if we were stepping off the plane in Manchester.

0:32:080:32:11

Although you couldn't believe you were the other side of the world.

0:32:110:32:14

and not ever being there before, it was really...felt as

0:32:140:32:17

if you were at home, really, the minute you arrived there.

0:32:170:32:20

And being introduced to the couple's first granddaughter, Olivia,

0:32:200:32:23

was a special moment for the whole family.

0:32:230:32:26

Meeting our granddaughter for the first time was absolutely perfect.

0:32:260:32:29

To have that time with her when she was just born, seeing her just born,

0:32:290:32:34

it was...it was really great.

0:32:340:32:36

When they arrived back home, Gill

0:32:360:32:38

and Stuart were desperate to return to Australia as soon as they could.

0:32:380:32:42

We felt as if we really wanted to pack and go back again, didn't we?

0:32:420:32:45

And it looked like that was going to happen quickly -

0:32:450:32:48

paramedic Gill had a job interview at the end of the family's

0:32:480:32:51

stay in Perth, and received great news on her return to the UK.

0:32:510:32:56

When we arrived home,

0:32:560:32:57

one of the first things I did was check my emails and I was quite

0:32:570:33:01

excited because I'd passed the interview that I'd had

0:33:010:33:03

while we were out there, and everything was set in order,

0:33:030:33:06

and they said, "The next stage will be to start the visa process,"

0:33:060:33:09

and it was pencilled in to actually start on the 3rd of February.

0:33:090:33:13

In our own minds, we were all really quite excited to go over there

0:33:130:33:16

and Christine and Karl were really looking forward to having us over there.

0:33:160:33:20

Daughter Lauren had proved a sticking point.

0:33:210:33:24

She voted undecided in Australia, and a new boyfriend meant getting

0:33:240:33:28

her on board with a move could prove even more difficult.

0:33:280:33:31

When I got home, me and my boyfriend got together, and unfortunately,

0:33:310:33:35

he had to move out in September to America.

0:33:350:33:38

And, like, we've been back and forth.

0:33:380:33:40

Like, he's been back in England and we've been to see him.

0:33:400:33:44

But despite her long-distance relationship,

0:33:440:33:46

Lauren's had a change of heart about the move down under.

0:33:460:33:49

I do want to go out to Australia for a couple of months.

0:33:490:33:52

Like, the first few weeks will feel like a holiday,

0:33:520:33:55

and then, like, settle in a bit more,

0:33:550:33:58

see what it would be like as, like, a lifestyle out there.

0:33:580:34:01

I think Lauren is too much of a daddy's girl to not be with us.

0:34:010:34:07

We're too much of a close family to be apart for too long.

0:34:070:34:12

She may come for a year and then she may, you know,

0:34:120:34:14

be off somewhere else, whether it be America or...

0:34:140:34:18

But she'll always bounce back to wherever we are.

0:34:180:34:20

With Lauren coming round and Gill's job offer in hand, everyone was

0:34:200:34:24

excited about the prospect of being reunited as a family in Perth.

0:34:240:34:29

The Orretts started packing up their life in the UK.

0:34:290:34:32

So we did sort...started phoning a few removal companies and making

0:34:330:34:36

a few plans and packing a few boxes and...started to declutter the house

0:34:360:34:41

-a little bit, didn't we?

-Uh, yes.

0:34:410:34:43

Yes.

0:34:430:34:44

Which we knew was going to take quite a while.

0:34:440:34:47

And we did think, "Oh, gosh.

0:34:470:34:49

"Maybe this is going to be a reality."

0:34:490:34:52

Gill being her organised self started to pack and sell

0:34:520:34:58

and declutter and move out, and basically,

0:34:580:35:02

if it wasn't nailed down, it was sold.

0:35:020:35:04

And it wasn't only Stuart that saw possessions disappear.

0:35:040:35:08

My mum's been selling quite a lot of stuff.

0:35:080:35:10

Like, I think I had a desk, and she sold that.

0:35:100:35:14

So...I had to use, like, a plastic one.

0:35:140:35:17

It looked like the whole family was on its way to a new

0:35:170:35:20

life in Australia, but a devastating message from Gill's future employer

0:35:200:35:25

brought everything to a grinding halt.

0:35:250:35:27

Just before Christmas, I received an e-mail...a very apologetic e-mail that

0:35:280:35:34

due to their workforce requirements, they were unable to give me

0:35:340:35:38

a start date, but would be in touch in the future.

0:35:380:35:40

Um..."in the future" in Western Australia, as we've learned,

0:35:400:35:47

could mean anything from one month to 12 months and more.

0:35:470:35:53

We were really flat.

0:35:530:35:54

We've been looking forward to going for so long.

0:35:540:35:57

You know, it's like looking forward to going on a fabulous holiday

0:35:570:36:01

and then, you know, the plane breaks down and you can't go.

0:36:010:36:04

And there was more bad news to come.

0:36:040:36:06

My dad passed away at the beginning of the year.

0:36:090:36:11

If Gill's start date hadn't been postponed,

0:36:150:36:17

Stuart would have missed the chance to say goodbye to his dad.

0:36:170:36:20

And when we looked at it,

0:36:210:36:23

we would've been on the plane or had just arrived in Australia to

0:36:230:36:26

start our new life when his father was in intensive care here,

0:36:260:36:32

so...ironic as it was, in a way, we were glad we were still here.

0:36:320:36:37

It was a double tragedy for the family.

0:36:370:36:40

They'd come so close, but the loss of Stuart's father and Gill's job offer

0:36:400:36:44

being put on hold blew their plans out of the water.

0:36:440:36:47

You know, at the time, we wondered...how unfair...

0:36:470:36:51

We felt as if we saw the new life within touching distance

0:36:510:36:56

and then had the rug pulled under us.

0:36:560:36:57

But then...when this happened, we were glad that we were here.

0:36:570:37:02

Obviously, you know, we didn't know this was going to happen.

0:37:020:37:06

And...time does catch up on everybody.

0:37:070:37:10

You basically have to make your decisions, stick by them

0:37:110:37:16

and live with them.

0:37:160:37:17

With any decisions that we've made, either now or for the future, it is

0:37:170:37:24

for the future that we have to think of.

0:37:240:37:27

With the future in mind

0:37:300:37:32

and the thought of missing granddaughter Olivia growing up, the

0:37:320:37:35

Orretts are now more determined than ever to make the move down under.

0:37:350:37:39

She's changing all the time.

0:37:390:37:41

You know, we've noticed since we've come back from Australia

0:37:410:37:44

and speaking to her on the internet, the way she's changed.

0:37:440:37:49

And to miss those early days is something that we don't really want to miss.

0:37:490:37:53

And we want to be part of her life.

0:37:530:37:55

We want to be there when she grows up.

0:37:550:37:57

We want her to understand who we are rather than just

0:37:570:37:59

-the people on the television screen.

-That's it.

0:37:590:38:01

And it's not just Stuart

0:38:010:38:02

and Gill who are keen to see more of the family's youngest member.

0:38:020:38:06

I think since I have got back, with my niece being over there,

0:38:060:38:10

how much she's grown and she's, like,

0:38:100:38:12

being her own little personality now, that, like,

0:38:120:38:15

it's...I'm missing out on that type thing.

0:38:150:38:17

Kiss bye. Kiss. Kiss!

0:38:170:38:22

-Oh, look - she's kissing bye.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:38:240:38:26

Mwah.

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But until Gill's offer of work comes through, the family have no choice

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but to stay put and play the waiting game.

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We feel as if...since my start date was deferred, we're in limbo.

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We're in complete limbo. We don't...

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We keep...we feel as if we can't book a holiday in case

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I get a phone call.

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We really do feel as if we're, like, teetering on the edge of a cliff,

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and we want to make that leap, and we can't at the moment.

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It's extremely frustrating for us, as I've decluttered the house

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and packed a few boxes and we have family and friends saying to us

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continually, "Are you still here?" Don't they?

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Cos they thought we were going.

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They might still be in the UK, but Gill

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and Stuart are convinced the move is the best thing for their family.

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We are making our decisions for our children as my parents

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and Gill's parents would've made for us.

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As a parent, you've got to make tough decisions sometimes,

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and this is one of them.

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And as it goes forward, we will see

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whether it was the right or wrong decision, but we'll do it.

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We'll suck it and see and...live with the consequences.

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While daughter Samantha's still working on cruise ships,

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she'll be able to catch up with her family from time to time.

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It doesn't matter where we are - she'll be quite happy.

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She travels the world now on a regular basis,

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so...being in Australia or being in the UK...

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The only nice thing is she won't see as much rain, and she doesn't like the rain.

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She doesn't like coming home to the rain or the snow,

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so...she's definitely a warm person.

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And as for Matthew, the move can't come fast enough.

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It really is frustrating not knowing when you're going to Australia, cos I just want to get out there.

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People are asking me when I'm going and blah-blah-blah.

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It just starts to get annoying after a while.

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So I just want to get out there and go.

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Matthew, like the rest of the family,

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is just waiting on that crucial call confirming Jill's job is back on.

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He comes in every day from school, "Have you heard? Have you heard yet?"

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And...I just keep saying, "Trust me, you'll know when I heard.

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"I'll be the one walking round with the billabong on me hat."

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Um...and it is very frustrating.

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So the Orretts are ploughing ahead with their plans to move lock,

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stock and barrel to the other side of the world.

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Stuart's already sold a good chunk of his business.

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-So he's, um...scaled that down.

-It's ready.

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I mean, we are in the situation that if we get a phone call,

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we are ready to move very, very quickly.

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Should we get the call, we'll have a last-minute party and off we go.

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And Stuart's excited about his job prospects down under.

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Stuart can't wait to get out there.

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I mean, he's...you know, for the first time in 20 years,

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he saw options that he hasn't seen in the UK.

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He hasn't felt as if there has been any options as to working the way

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he works, being self-employed here.

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And it gave him a tremendous confidence boost

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when he spoke to corporate catering companies, because they welcomed him

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with open arms and they would welcome his experience.

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Job prospects out there, there seem to be an abundance, a variety.

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And that's really nice to do,

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because I know obviously being in the catering environment

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for the past 20-odd years, a change can be as good as a rest.

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And, uh...I enjoy a little challenge and that sort of thing,

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so maybe we'll diversify and see where we can end up.

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The Orretts hope to be reunited in Perth sooner rather than later.

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I mean, we hope to be out there

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within the next sort of six or seven months.

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Secretly, we'd like to be out there in the next three or four months,

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but because we've had this disappointment,

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we're not getting our hopes up.

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But we're ready to go whenever they want us.

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We won't really as feel as if we're going to be moving out

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there until we're sat in Manchester Airport waiting for the plane

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because it's been such a long road.

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You know, anybody who's thinking of emigrating to Australia,

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it's not going to happen in five minutes. It does take a long time.

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Hopefully the long wait will be worth it.

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I personally don't question whether we made the right decision.

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The decisions were made on the positive points for the children.

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They can have their future there, and their future certainly seems

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a lot brighter out there than it is in the UK at the moment.

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And...just very exciting to go out there

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and hopefully live the life in the sunshine and enjoy it to the full.

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-I think we'll be doing an awful lot of

-baby-sitting. Will you?

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THEY LAUGH

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After everything the Orretts have been through,

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they remain determined to be reunited as a family in Australia.

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We'll keep our finger crossed that Gill's job offer finally comes

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through and that their dream becomes a reality.

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