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For most of us, the idea of emigrating to another country

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is nothing more than a pipe dream.

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But what if you decided you had enough of thinking, what if?

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How would you convince your partner to put aside their doubts

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and follow you to the other side of the world?

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In 2012, Teo Armes took his family to test drive life in New Zealand.

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It was his best shot at persuading them to emigrate.

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If we weren't to move to New Zealand this time,

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-I don't think we'll ever do it.

-Wife Amanda didn't want to leave the UK.

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The distance makes me feel sick with worry.

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The thought of leaving her mum seemed unbearable.

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I don't like to think about it too much, otherwise I'd cry.

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Leaving my mum.

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One year on, we'll find out

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if the family have made the life-changing decision.

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We had everything most people would want.

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And then we were just going to give it all up.

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For many Brits looking for a new start, New Zealand seems perfect.

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Its open countryside and mild climate are a powerful draw.

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And with just a fraction of the population compared to the UK,

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there is plenty of room for new arrivals.

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But the dream isn't always easy to achieve

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and it doesn't work out for everyone.

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In 2012 the Armes family spent a week experiencing the Kiwi

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lifestyle first-hand.

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For Teo, it was a chance to convince his wife

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and children it would be worth giving up their comfortable life

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in the UK for a new life down under.

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Today, one year on, we'll find out what happened to their hopes

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and dreams.

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For their trial week, the Armes took a 12,000 mile

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journey before they touched down on Kiwi soil.

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But they had an unplanned stopover at immigration.

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Amanda filled in the forms on the plane to declare

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if we were carrying any food or footwear that may have soil on.

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And Amanda forgot to say that we had on our walking boots

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and we have been officially warned, luckily we weren't fined 400,

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but they nearly did, and they gave us a proper telling off.

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And an official warning. She was crying five minutes ago.

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-Not a good start, was it?

-No.

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The family were about to face a week that could

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change their lives for ever.

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In the UK, the Armes lived in the historic city of Norwich.

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Teo was a consultant social worker, Amanda, a part-time sales assistant.

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Football-mad Alfie was nine and Isabella was seven.

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After a student trip to Australia, Teo had always wanted to

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emigrate, but after falling for and marrying Amanda,

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the move had been put on hold.

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It's always been talked about but it has always been in the background.

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It has never been, we are actually going to do it.

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We have never moved forward on that.

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But then a tragedy had made Teo look at his dream again.

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My brother...

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suddenly and unexpectedly died.

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It has really had a huge effect on the whole family,

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but it has really made me evaluate what I've got, what I want from life.

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However, Amanda was worried about moving.

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The distance makes me feel sick with worry and nerves,

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that if anything was to happen to my mum or dad,

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because they have not been that well, yeah, it kind of...

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Yeah.

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A move was something Amanda hoped she would never have to contemplate.

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I don't like to think about it too much otherwise I'd cry, yeah,

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leave my mum.

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Really?

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-SHE CRIES

-They haven't got anyone else. They've only got me.

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-Yeah.

-It's the grandchildren.

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And taking them away, because they love them so much.

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-Yeah, I feel really guilty.

-It would have a massive impact.

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Alfie and Isabella also weren't sure about the idea.

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Me, Mum and Bella don't know how it feels to be on the other

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side of the world. But Dad does.

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But back then, with the children growing up fast, Teo believed it

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was now or never, if they were ever to realise the dream of emigrating.

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If we weren't to move to New Zealand at this time,

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I don't think we'll ever do it.

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If I weren't to at least try and show Amanda

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and the children what we could have somewhere else, and what life

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is like living in another country, I think I would always have a regret.

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There is nothing worse than having regrets so...

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..he needs to do what he needs to do and I have to support him on that.

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But the reality of it...

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..is something, just, I can't comprehend.

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For their trial week in New Zealand,

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the family visited Auckland on the North Island.

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The country's biggest city, it is full of life

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but surrounded by open spaces.

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Their rental home was in the suburb of Takapuna,

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so how did their first taste of Kiwi living go down?

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-Ooh.

-Oh.

-Modern.

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Yeah.

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-Oh, it's all open plan.

-I like it.

-I like open plan.

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-It's good.

-Amanda's thoughts had already turned to the week ahead.

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The area we are staying in is lovely or it seems really nice,

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and the house is gorgeous.

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It's very similar to our home, so it doesn't feel like something

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completely different and alien to me.

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But I know I'm a long way from home.

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Trying to get Amanda on board.

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If the houses go well, then that holds the whole week in good stead,

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I think, because Amanda is the key decision-maker really.

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Back in the UK, Teo and Amanda lived in a three-bedroom family home in Norwich.

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They hoped to have a budget of £250,000.

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But for Amanda, a Kiwi house would have plenty to live up to.

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I'd like a modern house. Something homely, comfortable.

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For me, as long as she likes it

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and she's happy with the house then I'm happy with the house.

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Kitchen is very important.

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Ideally, I'd like to have a spare bedroom so guests can come and stay.

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I'd like an entertaining space so that we can all be together.

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I definitely would like to have somewhere to grow some veg and stuff.

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The worst thing to be would be to be put in the middle of nowhere

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on a lifestyle property,

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surrounded by acres of fields. I would absolutely hate it.

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That was quite a list,

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but finding it would be key to winning Amanda over.

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We gave the Armes a taste of Auckland's property market.

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We showed them three typical houses based upon what they wanted,

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what they could afford and the real cost of property down under.

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After seeing what was on offer,

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they'd discover how much each property cost.

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The first stop was in the desirable beach-side district of Devonport,

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with plenty of local schools and only a ten-minute ferry ride

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to the city centre,

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this was harbour-side living in the suburbs.

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-But did it impress the Armes?

-I like the little balcony there.

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I don't like the outside of it. It looks quite bleak and depressing.

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It wasn't the best start.

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OK, let's go and have a little look.

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-Are you going to lead us in, Alfie? Yes?

-I am.

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OK, what do you think? It's quite small. It's cosy.

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I like the veranda and the door.

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Kitchen is on the small side but it's OK.

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It's nice that it joins the dining room

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so you can still sit there and chat.

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While the children explored the garden,

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Mum and Dad checked out the bedrooms.

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This would have to be a children's room. This can't be...

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It couldn't be our room.

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OK, so this is the master bedroom. This is a bit better.

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-It's not huge, but...

-It's not massive but it's good enough.

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It's similar to the house when we bought ours, and changed everything.

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Yes.

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-This is quite a big room as well.

-Yes, this is nice.

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At least the kids would have equal-sized rooms for a change.

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-It's a good-sized room. You have got the two windows.

-No, this is nice.

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I like it.

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With only three bedrooms there wouldn't be much space for guests.

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But an answer to the problem was to be found downstairs.

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-Oh, blimey, it's a huge space.

-That's huge.

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The basement area was as big as the house.

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Where do you start?

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I don't know, it would take some serious cash to...

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-change it. But... Wow.

-A bit of a project...

-A bit of a project.

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..which I don't really fancy.

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I wouldn't mind as long as the money was in the budget to do it.

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A guest bedroom was important to Teo and Amanda who wouldn't

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settle for somewhere her parents couldn't visit.

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-There's a vegetable patch over there, Teo.

-A veg patch.

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-It's got rhubarb.

-I like the garden.

-The garden is good.

-It's massive.

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I'd worry about the neighbours because the neighbours would

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constantly be having a football in each garden!

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You would be climbing over that fence like you do at home all the time.

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The house had lots of potential and the garden Teo wanted,

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IF he could stop Alfie turning it into a football pitch.

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But was their £250,000 budget going to be enough to cover it?

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-Bearing in mind that we are in Devonport...

-Who dares turn it over?

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-..which is expensive.

-Turn it over, let's have a look.

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-OK.

-630,000.

-It's a bit over budget...

-Yep.

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-..by about 50 grand.

-Yep.

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You're going to spend at least another 50, if not more renovating.

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It was a good price for Devonport,

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but Amanda didn't see herself living there.

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So what was Plan B?

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If we want to spend a bit less than that, then we're going probably

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have to look a little further out from the central business district.

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I'm happy to look a bit further out.

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The second property was 25 miles to the north-west,

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but would it appeal to Amanda?

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Oh, my God, there's a caravan!

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Oh, this is horrible.

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-Stop making your mind up about things until you've had a look.

-OK.

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Property two was a country cottage full of character.

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Oh, this is not my cup of tea at all.

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The house sat in its own land and didn't have a neighbour in sight.

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I don't see the point of having ten acres

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and being in the middle of nowhere.

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Inside, the cottage had an old-fashioned look.

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-Crikey. It's certainly a doer-upper, isn't it?

-Do-upper.

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-I'd have to knock it down.

-This is called country kitchen.

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Not my country kitchen.

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Amanda wasn't impressed.

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So what about the bedrooms?

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This is tiny. There would be a massive fight between the children.

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That is more of an office size, isn't it?

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-This isn't really us, is it?

-No.

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Let's go and have a look. Oh, it's outside. A little veranda.

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-Yeah, yeah. What do you reckon?

-Never.

-If we could buy it...

-Never.

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-If we could afford it and have the money to do it up...

-Never.

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You sound like you are really warming up the idea.

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-Could the price help turn things around?

-Come on.

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-Do you want to reveal?

-You ready?

-Go.

-I'm quite excited.

-Go.

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Oh, my God. Seriously, 224,000 for this? Wow.

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I thought it would be a lot less.

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Even if it was £100,000, you wouldn't want to buy it.

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-So it's pretty irrelevant really.

-No!

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It was safe to say the second property

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fell into the definite "no" category.

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The final house was in the North Shore,

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just 20 minutes from central Auckland.

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Surrounded by cafes, shops and located close to the beach,

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it potentially offered something for everyone.

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-This looks nice.

-It does. It looks more our sort of taste.

-Yes.

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-Spacious.

-Yes.

-It is nice, isn't it?

-Very nice. It is a really nice size.

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That was a much happier-sounding Amanda.

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It is a good space.

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I can see us making it more our kind of... Wa-hey!

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More our kind of house.

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With two fair-sized bedrooms for the children, and a thumbs up

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from Amanda for the master bedroom, was she coming round to Kiwi living?

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Lovely!

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I can see the potential in this house. Yes.

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You can see us living somewhere like this.

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Outside, the children had been exploring the garden.

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-Do you like it?

-Yes.

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And Amanda had found something specially designed for Teo.

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Have a look inside. You would be in heaven, darling.

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-Look, it's got a wheelbarrow!

-A wheelbarrow!

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Finally, it looked like they had found a real contender.

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-The house is the right size.

-Yes.

-With a little bit of work...

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With a little bit of cosmetic work, changes here and there

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-and the layout.

-But it's liveable.

-It's definitely liveable.

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But I think over time it would probably be a good option.

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-Good, good. I'm glad. I like it too.

-Wow, we've agreed on something.

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But would the £250,000 be enough?

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It was all riding on the turn of the card.

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-OK, go on, then.

-Let's have a look.

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BOTH: Ooh!

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-OK.

-Blimey. It's bang on 500,000.

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Is it better than you thought?

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-Yeah, I thought it would be about 275 or something.

-Yeah.

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-That's a good price. It's exciting!

-Yeah.

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House-hunting hadn't gone well.

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Property one was a disappointment for Amanda.

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-And the second house might as well have been on the moon.

-Never.

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But the final, much more affordable house had got everyone excited.

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Had Amanda seen enough to start the week with a vote for New Zealand?

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Based on the three properties we've seen today, we are

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going to vote for...

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-Middle!

-OTHERS: UK!

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So why were you undecided?

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I like our house at home but the gardens in New Zealand seen

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to be bigger than the ones we have at home.

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-Really? You think it is bigger than our garden?

-Yes.

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We've made our home really nice and I think the houses

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we saw today weren't anything that I would want to live in.

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The cost of the houses here in comparison for what you get

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and everything, just on the three we've seen, I was...

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-They weren't the right home?

-No.

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Hopefully, tomorrow, with work and the schools it'll be a better day.

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Yes, I am looking forward to tomorrow.

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At home, Teo had built a successful career as a consultant

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social worker, but he was realistic about his prospects down under.

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I would probably be having to almost take a step down if I was going to

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go to New Zealand, because I have got more of a managerial position here.

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Almost certainly I would earn less money. But I accept that.

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That is not really going to bother me.

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Teo had hoped to find work from day one in New Zealand.

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Amanda wanted to track down a school that felt right for the children.

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Alfie is very academic, Bella is very artistic,

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so I would need to find a school that combines both of those things,

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because I want them both to do as well as they can.

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To find out what the job market was like for social workers

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from overseas, Teo went to meet Pru and Kristin from

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a recruitment agency specialising in health care professionals.

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-The New Zealand health system is very comparable to the UK.

-Is it?

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And that is why we find that the UK health professionals are quite

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sought-after in New Zealand, because they tend to hit the ground

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running because the systems are so comparable.

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Brilliant, that is very good.

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If they decided to emigrate,

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Amanda wanted a school to be in place before they arrived,

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so she spent the day visiting one that had been recommended.

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Welcome to Milford School.

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It is good that you could come along today to have a look at the way

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we do things here in New Zealand. You'll probably have lots of questions so Mum

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and both of you can ask as many questions as you like.

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Brilliant, thank you.

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Headmistress Lee Hopkirk gave them the guided tour.

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Look at the trips, Alfie, they are on their boats and things like that.

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-That looks amazing.

-It was from our outdoor education week.

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So that's when we had... The year five classes went out to

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lots of different outdoor activities in the week.

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There's a lot better school trips than we have.

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This was a state school but away trips weren't free and Teo

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needed to know his salary would provide enough for all their needs.

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You could expect to be, you know, minimum, step five.

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Which is roughly NZ61,362.

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However, you know, there are many steps on here. It goes up to 15.

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And here it details how you move up,

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as you sort of progressed through, you know, your years.

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That is really good actually, yes.

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That was similar to Teo's earnings back home,

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and for a lower grade, but was there work available for him?

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I think you would be a great candidate for people.

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That sounds very good.

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Yeah, really good. OK, thank you. That's excellent.

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It looked like Teo could find a good position, but back

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at the school, Alfie and Isabella had a few questions of their own.

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We do maths and crayoning and writing. The same probably.

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-How often do you do art?

-At least once a week.

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This school seemed to be an ideal fit for the children offering

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art, high standards and sport.

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But would it be easy to place them?

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We are a very popular school and our numbers are really high, so much so

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that we are not letting our numbers get any higher than they are.

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Oh, right, OK.

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You have to be living in the school zone to be able to come to Milford School.

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And if you're not, then the only way in would be through a ballot.

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It looked like good schools were hard to get into wherever

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they were, but was Amanda impressed?

0:19:440:19:46

The kids really love it and the teachers seem really friendly

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and welcoming, so yeah, it's put my mind at ease and made me

0:19:500:19:53

feel a lot happier.

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And after his day of job-hunting, what was Teo's verdict?

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Based on my work interview today,

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I'm going to vote for...

0:20:010:20:03

..New Zealand!

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I'm reassured by the salary. It's very comparable to the UK.

0:20:070:20:11

Before Teo could share his views with everyone,

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Alfie chipped in first.

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-Was it good?

-Yeah.

0:20:160:20:18

-Is it?

-Yeah.

-And they do do football.

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-Soccer.

-Yeah.

-Do they call it soccer?

-Yeah.

0:20:210:20:24

-Did they say they do netball, Bella?

-Yeah, every week they do art.

0:20:240:20:28

-Do they?

-Yeah.

-Lots of art around the school, wasn't there?

0:20:280:20:30

-What did you think, Bella?

-It's cool.

0:20:300:20:32

-It's like a really big adventure.

-Yeah.

0:20:320:20:34

-Can we go and play now?

-Yep. Course you can.

0:20:340:20:37

OK! Go on, then!

0:20:370:20:39

It was time for Teo and Amanda to catch up.

0:20:390:20:42

-I'm just wondering how you got on today. How did it go?

-Yeah!

0:20:420:20:45

Excellent! They were pretty positive.

0:20:450:20:47

They said you'd probably start on around 61,000, I think.

0:20:470:20:51

-Mmm. Is that for a basic social worker?

-Yeah.

0:20:510:20:55

-So, there is quite a lot of progression after that.

-Oh, really?

0:20:550:20:58

-Oh, that's OK, then.

-Yeah.

0:20:580:21:00

But they were very positive about the prospect.

0:21:000:21:03

So, how does it make you feel about moving here now?

0:21:030:21:05

-It's made me feel a little bit better.

-Yeah.

0:21:050:21:07

It's not made me suddenly want to come out here,

0:21:070:21:10

-just because of a school - there's so many different factors.

-Mmm.

0:21:100:21:12

But, yeah, that part of it has been really positive.

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And it made the kids feel happy.

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As long as they're at ease and they

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know it's not going to be big and scary for them,

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-then it puts my mind at rest.

-Yeah.

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But could the Armes afford to live in New Zealand?

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We compared a comparison of their expenses at home and down under

0:21:300:21:34

to see if they could afford Kiwi life.

0:21:340:21:36

-Whoa, look at aubergines!

-Crikey! The kids don't like them anyway, so...!

0:21:360:21:39

-They'll be happy!

-Maybe I'll grow them.

0:21:390:21:42

-You can grow them!

-OK. Loo roll...

0:21:420:21:44

Slightly cheaper.

0:21:440:21:46

Yeah, but is it tracing paper or is it toilet roll?

0:21:460:21:49

Despite some items being more expensive,

0:21:510:21:53

their weekly shop was only £15 more in New Zealand.

0:21:530:21:56

That difference per week is not a huge amount,

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and as we know, we can, erm...

0:22:010:22:03

-save on...

-That's an average, that's fine, isn't it?

-Yep.

0:22:030:22:06

-That's nothing.

-That's all right.

0:22:060:22:08

They based their calculations on Teo's salary in New Zealand,

0:22:080:22:11

which they hoped would be about the same as he earned in the UK.

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But there was a big problem.

0:22:140:22:17

We'd still be worse off, because, simple fact is,

0:22:170:22:19

-our mortgage would jump hugely...

-Mmm.

0:22:190:22:21

..from £500 a month at home...

0:22:210:22:24

-Yeah.

-..to round about 956 here.

0:22:240:22:27

-We've been lucky with the mortgage at home.

-Mmm.

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Mmm.

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It's doable, but we won't have much left each month.

0:22:320:22:35

With only one salary, the figures didn't look great,

0:22:350:22:38

so did they think the move was worth it?

0:22:380:22:41

So, based on the cost of living between here and the UK,

0:22:410:22:45

our vote goes to...

0:22:450:22:47

..UK.

0:22:540:22:55

-Yes, UK, has to be.

-Yeah.

0:22:550:22:57

My heart is saying to me, we can still do it, and I know we can,

0:22:570:23:01

erm, but my brain is saying,

0:23:010:23:03

erm,

0:23:030:23:05

it's still quite a lot of money, and the worry is,

0:23:050:23:08

-how much would we have left over each month?

-I don't want to be skint.

0:23:080:23:11

We've got enough to be here. So,

0:23:110:23:13

it's the quality of life I think you'd have here still.

0:23:130:23:15

-Erm...

-Yeah, but...

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with that amount of money left, there wouldn't be much quality of life.

0:23:170:23:21

You couldn't go out for the extra meal or for the extra thing,

0:23:210:23:24

-and the holidays and flights home and... It just...

-Mmm.

0:23:240:23:28

That's not going to be enough money, it's just not...

0:23:280:23:31

-OK.

-The figures don't work out.

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Finances were a set back for Teo,

0:23:380:23:40

but would a taste of the Kiwi lifestyle help convince the family

0:23:400:23:43

his dream still had legs?

0:23:430:23:46

At home, Alfie was a budding player with Norwich City Soccer School.

0:23:460:23:49

So, during their trial week,

0:23:490:23:51

the Armes visited a similar club in Auckland,

0:23:510:23:54

to give him a chance of comparing teams.

0:23:540:23:56

While Alfie warmed up, Amanda got chatting to one of the other mums.

0:23:580:24:02

-So you come here every... How many times a week?

-Sometimes three.

0:24:020:24:06

-Really?

-Depending on the Saturday because he does training.

0:24:060:24:09

I'm a bit of a fair-weather football mum so I only come out

0:24:090:24:12

-when it's sunny and dry!

-So you don't even watch on a Saturday if it's raining?

-I... No.

0:24:120:24:16

That's a good way coming over here to meet people, if you did come and watch.

0:24:160:24:19

-Yes, I might have to change my outlook on that.

-You might.

0:24:190:24:23

On the pitch, Alfie wasn't having any trouble fitting in.

0:24:240:24:27

-Lovely!

-And finish it.

0:24:270:24:30

Good. Well finished.

0:24:300:24:32

So I was thinking if you wanted to sign Alfie,

0:24:320:24:36

we could sort of have a chat with a beer afterwards.

0:24:360:24:38

I was thinking sort of 500 grand.

0:24:380:24:40

For nine, he's got some great skills.

0:24:400:24:43

He seems enthusiastic, as well.

0:24:430:24:46

500,000 - for how long?

0:24:460:24:48

Teo was already making friends but Amanda still had worries.

0:24:480:24:53

I think I'm just going to have to get my head around

0:24:530:24:55

just the lifestyle change, not only a big move...

0:24:550:24:58

-Yeah, I'm more than happy to help you when you arrive.

-Excellent.

0:24:580:25:01

-You will love it when you come next, for sure.

-Yeah.

0:25:010:25:04

Amanda seemed to be starting to fit in, so it was time to indulge

0:25:040:25:08

Isabella with a treat.

0:25:080:25:10

After a busy morning, time together on the beach was the perfect way

0:25:140:25:17

to consider the week so far.

0:25:170:25:19

I'd be stupid to even say, "No, I wouldn't want to live here."

0:25:200:25:24

-It's lovely.

-Yeah.

0:25:240:25:26

But there's so many other things to consider.

0:25:260:25:29

-This is pretty good, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:25:290:25:31

I mean, the kids are well catered, there's so much they can do.

0:25:310:25:34

-Looks like it's all about family.

-It is, yeah.

-Families, children.

0:25:340:25:37

Yeah, the activities the kids can get involved in,

0:25:370:25:40

like after-school clubs and different..sailing...

0:25:400:25:44

-On that front...

-You are won over.

-I'm won over by that, totally.

0:25:440:25:47

It's lovely, yeah.

0:25:470:25:49

It had been a great day for everyone but had the Auckland lifestyle

0:25:490:25:53

worked enough magic for Amanda to overcome all her fears and worries?

0:25:530:25:58

Based on our lifestyle in New Zealand,

0:25:580:26:01

our vote goes to...

0:26:010:26:03

-ALL: New Zealand!

-New Zealand.

0:26:140:26:15

Whoo, Bella, you did it, yay.

0:26:150:26:18

How come you chose it because I didn't think you were going to?

0:26:190:26:23

I like it here.

0:26:230:26:25

The weather is nicer than at home.

0:26:250:26:28

It's horrible and rainy.

0:26:280:26:29

-Yeah, well done, Bell.

-Brilliant.

0:26:290:26:31

I like that they do football and it's good coaching.

0:26:310:26:34

Yeah, Brilliant.

0:26:340:26:36

It's really... It's sunny here and it's got loads of beaches

0:26:360:26:40

-and the place is surrounded by water.

-Yeah.

0:26:400:26:43

Not much to choose from, Alfie.

0:26:430:26:45

Alfie's just speaking for me, as well, there.

0:26:450:26:48

This is the easiest vote because the lifestyle is fantastic.

0:26:480:26:52

The Kiwi lifestyle had shown Amanda she could enjoy time in New Zealand,

0:26:520:26:56

after all, but it was the thought of leaving family and loved ones behind

0:26:560:27:00

that had always been her biggest fear.

0:27:000:27:02

How did she react to messages from back home?

0:27:020:27:05

-Do you want to watch this, are you happy to watch it?

-Yeah.

0:27:050:27:08

-You're not going to get too upset, or anything?

-No.

0:27:080:27:10

OK, let's watch.

0:27:100:27:11

Hello, Teo and Amanda

0:27:130:27:14

and Bella and Alfie,

0:27:140:27:16

I hope you're enjoying yourselves.

0:27:160:27:18

Bella's a little madam, isn't she?

0:27:180:27:20

THEY LAUGH

0:27:200:27:22

They are absolutely brilliant.

0:27:220:27:24

-Brilliant, yeah.

-Aren't they?

-Yeah.

0:27:240:27:26

With tragedy that's just happened in the family

0:27:260:27:28

I can see more clearly that he wants to live his dream.

0:27:280:27:31

He wants to get out there and do what he wants to do.

0:27:310:27:34

After losing one brother, it does to me

0:27:340:27:37

it does feel a bit like I'll be losing the other

0:27:370:27:39

because I don't know how often we'd be able

0:27:390:27:42

to get out there and see them.

0:27:420:27:43

I don't want you to go, you know that. Erm, all of you.

0:27:430:27:47

I'd like to see my two grandchildren grow up.

0:27:470:27:50

I'd like to see Alfie play for Norwich.

0:27:500:27:53

They've both got jobs at the moment, they've got a nice house,

0:27:550:27:57

a nice environment, friends and family.

0:27:570:28:02

I can't really understand that.

0:28:020:28:04

Deep down I hope she doesn't go but...

0:28:040:28:08

There's a part of me that would like them to be around

0:28:080:28:12

but that's just me being selfish, really.

0:28:120:28:15

I think, for them, it would be wonderful.

0:28:150:28:17

I know there'll be a few boxes to tick off

0:28:170:28:21

before you make your right decision. I know you'll make the right one.

0:28:210:28:24

I will miss you very, very, very much.

0:28:240:28:28

TEO: Aw....

0:28:280:28:29

It would be another emptiness for me in my life.

0:28:290:28:33

But I'm prepared to take that sacrifice and live your dream

0:28:330:28:37

and I'll just be there and come and see you as soon as I can

0:28:370:28:41

-Oh, blimey.

-That threw you, didn't it?

-Yeah.

0:28:440:28:46

It was pretty supportive, really, wasn't it?

0:28:460:28:48

Yeah, positive. I knew my mum would be supportive, as well.

0:28:480:28:51

I can see it breaking her heart but...

0:28:510:28:54

-I think they can understand, they can understand.

-Yeah.

0:28:540:28:58

Watching messages showed the Armes just how much

0:29:010:29:03

heartache their departure would cause.

0:29:030:29:06

But if Teo was to realise his dream,

0:29:060:29:08

it would be a price they'd have to pay.

0:29:080:29:11

I really like it. I can't fault the place.

0:29:110:29:13

There is nothing... It's lovely.

0:29:130:29:16

There's nothing I can say against it.

0:29:160:29:19

My dilemma is, do I give it a chance and do it for Teo...

0:29:190:29:24

And maybe not just for myself, I don't know.

0:29:260:29:30

I'm just not...

0:29:300:29:31

I just don't think I can do it.

0:29:310:29:33

Erm, there is always going to be minuses because they will be

0:29:330:29:36

without family and cousins and friends, who they have left behind.

0:29:360:29:41

But, erm, the bonus of being outside and having an active

0:29:410:29:46

kind of lifestyle outweighs that.

0:29:460:29:48

I can see how happy he is, he loves it and he's just like alive.

0:29:480:29:52

He's come to life with everything and so has Alfie.

0:29:520:29:56

Bella's loving every minute of it, as well.

0:29:560:29:58

If Amanda does vote for the UK,

0:29:580:30:00

we'll probably have many conversations, I would imagine,

0:30:000:30:03

just for the next few weeks, maybe the next month or two

0:30:030:30:06

and then I don't think I would say it again, or bring it up.

0:30:060:30:10

You know, there's no point flogging a... Is it a dead horse,

0:30:100:30:14

is that the saying?

0:30:140:30:16

I need to stop being selfish, really,

0:30:170:30:19

and do things for others, rather than holding them all back.

0:30:190:30:24

It was the end of their trial week and time for their final vote.

0:30:240:30:28

Had Amanda been able to put her doubts behind her

0:30:280:30:31

and join Teo in his dream?

0:30:310:30:33

Based on our week here in New Zealand,

0:30:330:30:36

our vote is going to go to...

0:30:360:30:37

New Zealand!

0:30:440:30:45

Oh!

0:30:450:30:47

Oh, UK!

0:30:470:30:49

You've gone UK. Amanda, you've gone New Zealand.

0:30:490:30:52

Only with a discussion.

0:30:520:30:53

It's not a definite we're coming next week or next month.

0:30:530:30:58

It is, erm, yeah...

0:30:580:31:00

We shall see.

0:31:000:31:01

-Oh, Bella...

-You've gone UK?

-I know why.

0:31:010:31:04

-Is it Nanny?

-Yeah.

0:31:060:31:08

Oh...

0:31:090:31:10

Oh, Bella B.

0:31:100:31:12

I want my nanny.

0:31:140:31:17

We haven't decided.

0:31:170:31:19

We've got lots of talking to do, it's not a definite decision, OK?

0:31:190:31:22

We wouldn't do anything that you didn't want to do, as well, OK?

0:31:220:31:25

We've got lots of talking to do.

0:31:250:31:26

When we last saw the Armes,

0:31:400:31:42

the family's trial week in New Zealand had persuaded Amanda

0:31:420:31:45

the country could offer them the life they wanted.

0:31:450:31:48

But with Bella unconvinced, it was far from clear

0:31:480:31:51

if the move would really be on the cards.

0:31:510:31:55

So, one year on, where are the Armes family now?

0:31:550:31:59

The Armes are currently in...

0:32:010:32:03

..New Zealand!

0:32:080:32:10

The family made the big move down under and are now living

0:32:130:32:16

on the North Island in the seaside town of Oakura.

0:32:160:32:20

When Amanda said, "Yes," I was...really surprised.

0:32:220:32:26

I was really chuffed, really excited. I was thrilled.

0:32:260:32:30

Then she kind of put a little caveat in saying,

0:32:300:32:33

"Oh, we need to talk about it."

0:32:330:32:36

It came with a few conditions that we had to discuss quite a lot.

0:32:360:32:41

I agreed to do it for two years.

0:32:410:32:44

You knew I wanted to go but I said it's up to you.

0:32:440:32:48

And then you said, "Let's go for it, let's do it."

0:32:480:32:51

And that left just one person to be convinced, Isabella.

0:32:510:32:57

I think we may have told her that she'd get a pony

0:32:570:33:00

but we don't have a pony and we live by the beach.

0:33:000:33:03

The horse might not have materialised

0:33:030:33:06

but every thing else was coming together.

0:33:060:33:09

I started looking online on the internet for different jobs

0:33:090:33:12

and I saw three jobs that I, potentially,

0:33:120:33:15

could do in the place where I'd like to be.

0:33:150:33:18

Within weeks Teo had landed himself a job in the town

0:33:180:33:21

of New Plymouth on New Zealand's North Island.

0:33:210:33:24

The speed at which events moved surprised everyone,

0:33:240:33:27

especially Amanda.

0:33:270:33:28

-It was pressure, wasn't it?

-I didn't expect you to get a job

0:33:280:33:31

-so quickly.

-I didn't expect to get a job so quickly.

0:33:310:33:34

Yeah, even though I said, "Yeah, let's do it."

0:33:340:33:36

You kept saying, "Hurry up and get a job, hurry up..."

0:33:360:33:39

And then he got the job and I was like,

0:33:390:33:41

"I don't really. I don't want to do it now."

0:33:410:33:45

As the time to leave got closer,

0:33:450:33:47

Amanda began to think she had made a terrible mistake.

0:33:470:33:50

I had decided from the point where we'd had our leaving parties

0:33:500:33:55

and drinks and things like that

0:33:550:33:58

I just didn't want to leave everyone.

0:33:580:34:00

I kept thinking, "I've got really nice family, all my friends here.

0:34:000:34:03

"I've had friends for years, I've got new friends.

0:34:030:34:05

"I've got a job that I like. I've got...

0:34:050:34:09

"We had a nice income, we had everything most people would want."

0:34:090:34:14

Then we were just going to give it all up

0:34:140:34:17

to, supposedly, have a better life.

0:34:170:34:20

But it was too late, the wheels were already in motion.

0:34:230:34:26

-At that point we had...

-Rented somewhere.

0:34:280:34:31

-We were going, weren't we?

-We had paid for everything.

0:34:310:34:34

At that point, it was done, everything was bought, paid for.

0:34:340:34:37

Ship's gone, done.

0:34:370:34:39

By the time departure day came, Amanda was reaching breaking point.

0:34:390:34:43

The drive to the airport was tense.

0:34:430:34:46

Quiet intense with the music on, just to try and keep us,

0:34:480:34:53

yeah, keep us on an even keel.

0:34:530:34:56

We got to the airport and we checked our luggage in

0:34:560:35:00

and I just lost it.

0:35:000:35:02

I really just lost it, I just burst into tears.

0:35:020:35:05

I was like, "I don't want to go.

0:35:050:35:07

"I don't want to go." So, yeah...

0:35:070:35:09

Then we didn't really speak much on the flight.

0:35:090:35:12

It was really bad.

0:35:120:35:14

Really bad, really bad, yeah.

0:35:140:35:18

But Amanda's cold feet couldn't keep Teo down for long.

0:35:180:35:22

Landing in Auckland, that was good,

0:35:220:35:24

because we felt we'd been in Auckland and we liked Auckland.

0:35:240:35:26

And it felt good to be there and it felt different

0:35:260:35:29

because we were coming to live.

0:35:290:35:30

But then we were more nervous because we had to get our internal

0:35:300:35:33

flight down to New Plymouth which we hadn't seen, and as we got

0:35:330:35:36

right to New Plymouth and we could see the coastline, it was beautiful

0:35:360:35:41

and green and lush, and you could see the big mountains in the background.

0:35:410:35:45

And me and Alfie both got really excited. He was like, "Nice one, Dad!"

0:35:450:35:52

Alfie was won over by New Zealand's charms.

0:35:520:35:54

I love the sea and how close everything is

0:35:550:36:00

and how close school is.

0:36:000:36:02

Alfie adapted, I think pretty much from the minute

0:36:020:36:06

he got off the plane.

0:36:060:36:07

And even Bella, the little one who didn't want to be here,

0:36:090:36:13

really, as soon as they went to school, everything changed.

0:36:130:36:17

I like it that it's always sunny

0:36:170:36:19

because in England you only get one week of sun when it is the summer.

0:36:190:36:23

And over here you can just go in the sea and you can get surfboards

0:36:250:36:29

and boogie boards and there's a skate park just down the road,

0:36:290:36:32

and everyone's friendly.

0:36:320:36:34

They were, they made friends, friends were coming over,

0:36:340:36:38

they were going to stay with their friends and, yeah,

0:36:380:36:41

they seem to have just sort of... Yeah, they love it.

0:36:410:36:45

And Alfie is still playing his beloved football,

0:36:450:36:49

but does his new team live up to his high standards?

0:36:490:36:52

When I first moved over to here,

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I wasn't sure about how good they'd be but they have lived

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up to my expectations and they have gone higher, a lot higher!

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For Teo, New Zealand was everything he had hoped for.

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When you can go to work, get home, be on the beach,

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go in the sea, all the kids are in the sea, other dads,

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mums, people coming out at six, seven o'clock at night, going surfing,

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going kayaking, fishing,

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and then you turn round and you've got the view of the mountain

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and you just think, you can walk home in five minutes.

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We would leave him at the beach on his own

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because he'd be more excited than the kids.

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The beach lifestyle isn't the only thing Teo's impressed with.

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He is also enjoying his new job as a care manager,

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very similar to the social work he had been doing back home in the UK.

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But with a Kiwi twist.

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An excellent attitude... to kind of a work-life balance.

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They expect you to work but also it's not the be all and end all.

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They appreciate that people have got other things in life,

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families and yeah.

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I like it. I like it, it's good.

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But while Teo was living the life he had always dreamed of,

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Amanda was struggling to cope with the reality of life away

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from her friends and family.

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Teo would be at work, the kids would be at school,

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so I would be on my own all the time. And that drove me insane.

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I think it was just being on my own and not having anyone to talk to.

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I spent most of my life on Skype.

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After having had such a close relationship with her parents in the UK,

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only child Amanda really struggled with the distance.

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You miss the family?

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-Basically, who, your mum and dad?

-Mm.

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-You've just found it hard, haven't you?

-Really hard.

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It's probably one of the worst,

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one of the worst things we have gone through together.

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We argue anyway but it has made us argue.

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You start thinking, well, you did, I didn't, I was just

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thinking I would get on with it but you were starting to think...

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-I blamed you...

-"I can't be here, this is your fault, look what you've done."

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But... We got through it.

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The turning point for Amanda came when, after two months,

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the family moved from New Plymouth to the nearby village of Oakura.

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I like living here. I like it because it's modern.

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Our furniture fits in.

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And it wasn't just Amanda who liked their new house.

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This is my room and this is where I chill. It's really cool.

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The three-bedroom house the family are renting has everything

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-they need for their new life.

-The garden is small but...

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It is not too big, is it?

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We don't really use the garden because we are always at the beach.

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While the family are loving the new house, city girl Amanda is

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also surprised at how much she is enjoying the change of scene.

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I never, ever thought I would live in a village.

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I have always said I would never live in a village, ever.

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But it doesn't feel that isolated here.

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It feels, there is a nice community feel.

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Finally, Amanda had people she could talk to.

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As soon as we came to this village,

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within days we had met half our street.

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Yes, we met the Armes family just before Christmas.

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I think they were about to move in and they drove up

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in their rented car with a lamp in the back and they all jumped out.

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I think the kids had their scooters and my kids had their scooters

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and we just, yeah, we got on really well.

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It was a good time that we first met them, yeah.

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Kiwi hospitality was just what Amanda had been looking for.

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They have become a wonderful part of this community.

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We go to the beach most afternoons.

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We have had them over for a few drinks. Quite a few barbecues.

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Teo has invited us over for some Lebanese food, so yes,

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they have been wonderful, awesome.

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It is literally like Neighbours, the TV show.

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So we were welcomed, as soon as we got here.

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The people in New Plymouth call it the Shire, out here,

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because it is quite English.

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So we have met quite a lot of English people too, haven't we?

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And they have all been really good because the English people

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have all obviously emigrated and been through what we've been through.

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They've all got children.

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And having people who knew what she'd been through was

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-a massive help to Amanda.

-I don't feel alone any more.

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-I know I can phone someone or...

-Yeah.

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That someone's there if I need them.

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And I don't know, I guess I've always felt that that would happen

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and you'd be all right and you'd get there.

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As Amanda settles into her new life,

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she is appreciating just what New Zealand can offer her family.

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We do spend much more time as a family, which is a positive thing.

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-We go to the beach together.

-I love being able to walk to the beach.

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I love living near the sea.

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We go into town and we never really used to do things like that.

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I'd go off and do my own thing, you'd do your own thing.

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-That's true.

-So we do spend quality time as a family.

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So six months after their move,

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how does Teo think the family would vote now?

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I reckon, as a family we would all vote New Zealand.

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And I think the kids have got good friends,

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I think Amanda would go New Zealand, mainly because as a family,

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she thinks it is good for all of us.

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And I know I definitely prefer New Zealand, because it's got everything.

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The kids love it, Teo loves it. It is a lovely place.

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What a year it has been for the Armes.

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The last 12 months has seen a very emotional

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and life-changing move for them all.

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And it's been a roller coaster of emotions for Amanda

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as she initially struggled to cope with life down under.

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But, she's toughed it out and it now looks like the family

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are enjoying the New Zealand way of life together.

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Just as Teo imagined.

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