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If you passionately believed that there was a better | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
life waiting for you, on the other side of the world, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
but the person you loved most didn't share your dream, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
would you follow your head or your heart? | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
In 2013, Richelle Barker was facing that dilemma. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
Today, we'll find out where she and her mum now call home. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
Richelle was passionate about a move to the other side of the world... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
I absolutely fell in love with New Zealand through geography in school. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
..and was desperate for her mum to join her. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
We're less like mother and daughter and more like best friends. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
But for Mum, Lorraine, that meant facing an unbearable choice. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
I can't see me being in New Zealand, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
thinking "My God, I've left my mum." | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Two years on, we'll find out where they are now. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
At this moment in time, I'm feeling really positive. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Roughly the same size as Great Britain, New Zealand boasts | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
almost 9,500 miles of coastline and sandy beaches. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
With most parts of the country enjoying | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
over 2,000 hours of sunshine each summer, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
it's not difficult to see why, for almost 40 years, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
it's been one of the top ten destinations | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
for UK residents choosing to emigrate. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Two years ago, Richelle Barker had just one week to convince Mum, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
Lorraine, to uproot her entire life and start afresh in New Zealand. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
But at the end of it, the pair faced a life-changing decision - | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
whether to stay in the UK, or take the plunge | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
and move to the other side of the world. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
Today, we'll discover how and where | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Lorraine and Richelle are now. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
The Barkers' original trial week in New Zealand started with | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
a 12,000-mile journey with stops in four different time zones. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
Despite the long flight, the ladies had arrived in good form. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
It still hasn't hit home. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
We were on the plane saying, "We are going to New Zealand!" | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
-It just doesn't feel real. -This is my dream to come here. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
To actually get that, it hasn't sunk in. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
I don't think it will for quite a while yet. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
With just one week to persuade her mum life would be better | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
New Zealand, Richelle would need to find her bearings fast. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
In 2013, classroom assistant Lorraine | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
and then 18-year-old daughter Richelle were | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
living in a three-bedroomed bungalow in Kinmel Bay, North Wales. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
And as relationships between mothers and daughters went, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
they didn't come much stronger than this one. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
We are less like mother and daughter and more like best friends. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
She is my rock, my confidante, my everything. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
The pair spent almost all their spare time together. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
We go to these country and western festivals, and we dress up | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
with our Stetsons and our boots, and we do a bit of line dancing. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
But that relationship was being put to the test. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Richelle was desperate to convince her mum to follow her dream | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
and move to New Zealand. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
Everything Richelle seems to do, it's all with New Zealand in mind. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
Well, I absolutely fell in love with New Zealand through | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
geography at school. We saw these amazing mountains with the snow. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
They've got nice holiday destinations with beaches, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
just like we have here, only they have the summer for it. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
Lorraine had emigrated to Australia in her 20s, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
but had returned to the UK before Richelle was born. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
Nearly 30 years later, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
she didn't know if she had the strength to do it all over again. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
At 50, I can see pitfalls and problems arising, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
and I'm really quite concerned if I'm doing the right thing or not. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
A legacy from Lorraine's time down under was Australian | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
passports for her and Richelle, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
meaning they wouldn't have needed visas for New Zealand. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
But the downside was that if Lorraine left Wales, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
she'd also be leaving her mum. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
My mum has always been there to help. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
She's always lived just down the road. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
We always phone each other every day. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
I can't see me being in New Zealand, thinking, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
"My God, I've left my mum." | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Health issues meant there was no chance of her nan | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
making the move with them and Richelle was all too aware | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
of the emotional turmoil her mum faced. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
This is part of my dilemma. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
If we go out to New Zealand and my mum is not settled, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
that would break my heart to see my best friend unhappy. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
For Richelle to realise her dream of a new life down under, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
Lorraine faced having to choose between her mum and her daughter. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Whatever's going to happen, someone is potentially | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
going to lose their mum, whether it's me with you, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
or you with your mum. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
It's a dilemma all round. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
For their first ever trip to New Zealand, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Richelle and Lorraine visited the greater Auckland region | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
in the north island. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
Home for the week was a two-bedroom cottage in Coatesville, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
a small, rural community about 18 miles north-west of the city. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
Straight away, Lorraine was impressed. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
-Wow! That is... -No, mum. It's the little cottage on the left. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
I don't care if it's that garage! It's fabulous. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Their rental cottage was attached to the owner's home | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
and formed part of a traditional Kiwi lifestyle plot. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
I love these big, quirky rooms and the fire. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
-It's different. Funny, funky room shapes. -Yeah! | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
-That is what I'm talking about. -Beautiful. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
These lifestyle blocks are absolutely amazing. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
It was an amicable start to the week, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
but the pair's relationship risked being put through the ringer | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
if Lorraine was to be convinced of a future in New Zealand. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
We'll just have to suck it and see. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Find out some more, first. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
But first day, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
first feeling, first impression is absolutely beautiful. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
Back in the UK, the Barkers were living in a three-bedroomed | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
detached bungalow in Kinmel Bale, North Wales. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
And if Richelle managed to convince her mum to move, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
she had a clear idea of what a Kiwi home should have. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
My dream house would be a wooden, weather-board house, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
three bedrooms, big, private with a plot of land. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
Half an hour to an hour away from civilisation. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
I do like anything that's quirky or a little bit different. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-Some of it is quite similar, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
There's one thing that we agree on, anyway - just location. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
I've got this idea of having chickens and sheep. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
I'd be happy with just a dog. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
The Barkers had a budget of £200,000 for a home in New Zealand. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
We showed them three properties - | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
one on budget, one their ideal home and one in-between. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
First stop was the farming region of Kaukapakapa. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
45 minutes from the centre of Auckland, it was popular with | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
people wanting to combine city working with rural living, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
so should have been ideal for Richelle. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
This four-bedroomed property had plenty of room inside. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
And, with 2.4 acres outside, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
it could have been perfect for those sheep and chickens. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
-Wow. What do you think of this? -It's a view, isn't it? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
-Oh, it is lovely. -Very nice. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
So far, so good. But how did the inside fare? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
It does need a lot of TLC, I think. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-It would have to be... -Modernised! | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
But, depending on the price, things could be done with it. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
Lorraine was underwhelmed. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Richelle needed to find something to please her mum quickly. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
-This is bedroom number one. Decent size, isn't it? -It is. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
I suppose the bed is big, so it's taking up some room. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
They've got cowboy hats, mum. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Ready for us to move in. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Nice try, but it wasn't enough. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
There's a lot of money to be spent here. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
This old electric. And that noise, all day, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
because we're right on the busy road. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
Inside had left a lot to be desired | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
and the busy road outside didn't help either. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
I'm just not feeling it here. With that road, I think... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
We're not used to it, are we? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
It did have the land Richelle wanted, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
so was it within their £200,000 budget? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-OK. Here we go. -SHE MAKES A FANFARE | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-Wow! -£283,000! | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
So, that was quite a lot more than what we expected. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Wow! I thought our budget would be quite enough to buy a better house. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
Oops! | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
The real cost of lifestyle living was threatening to derail | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Richelle's dream. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Would the next house lift her spirits? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Further away from the city centre, this well-presented | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
house in Parakai should have offered more value for money. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Well, it's very suburban. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
Squashed in with thousands of others. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
It wasn't quite the lifestyle block Richelle was looking for, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
-but did inside win her over? -Oh, wow. Amazing. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
-It's a bit more... -Compared to the other house. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
I love the way it flows outside. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
But there was little room for Richelle's livestock plans. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
It's a really nice garden, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
but there's no way for chickens or for sheep. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
And a lack space for animals wasn't the only problem. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
I can see about 50 houses in one glance. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
-Back indoors, size was an issue in the bathroom too. -Right. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
So, it's a main bathroom | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-and it's got a washing machine in. -OK. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
-Erm... I don't think I could fit in that bath. -It's usable. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:03 | |
If you are a hobbit, it's usable. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
The bath was too small, the neighbours too close, but was | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
this somewhere they could afford anyway on their £200,000 budget? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
Shall we see how much it's worth? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
-Ah-ha! -OK, so it's under budget by £5,000. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
-But it's still overlooked. -I don't think I can afford my dream. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
It's quite a frightening aspect of it. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
The day wasn't going to plan and, with just one property to go, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Richelle's chances of finding the right house at the right | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
price were looking slim. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
The final stop was in Helensville, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
within easy commuting distance to central Auckland. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
What did they make of this spacious four-bedroomed house? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
-There's a real cottagey look to it, isn't it? -It's got a chicken. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
That had to be good sign. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Oh, look, Mum, it's got a Kent fire. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
-It'll be lovely and warm in the winter. -It's nice and open-plan. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
It flows into the dining room, which is quite nice. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
It's a nice-sized kitchen. Needs a bit of TLC. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
It's the size we are looking for. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
It was looking promising so far. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
-Quite a big-sized room. -Wow, it's huge. Yeah. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
It's got a really nice view, as well. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Richelle and Lorraine seemed won over inside, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
but did the garden offer more privacy than the last property? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
You feel like your private and secluded, really. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
This house seemed to work for them, inside and out. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
So, was it priced to please? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
I'm going to say it's bang on our budget at 200,000! | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Right. Do you want to go for it? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
-Oh! £217,000. -Which is NZ395,000. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
That was £17,000 over the Barkers' budget. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
House prices are so much more expensive than I imagined. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
It had been a bad start to Richelle's week, as the real | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
cost of the kind of property she wanted had been revealed. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Property one offered the lifestyle block she'd been dreaming of, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
but at a price they weren't prepared to pay. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
The second house was more affordable, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
but also too overlooked, and the final house was almost perfect, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
but just beyond their budget. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
So, based on what they'd seen, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
did the Barkers vote for property in the UK or New Zealand? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
-UK. -I'm very undecided | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
and I'm surprised that you have picked the UK. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
It's just been super disappointing. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
I just thought we would get so much more for our money | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
than what we've been shown today. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Richelle had been dreaming of a life in New Zealand for almost ten years, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
but the true cost of property down under | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
meant that finding a job with a good salary was crucial. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
Back in the UK, Richelle had been earning around £10,000 a year | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
as a full-time accounts assistance while studying for her final exams. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
I'm not on much at the moment but, if we do go, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
we will need a mortgage, so the right salary would be needed. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
As a classroom assistant for young people with learning difficulties, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
Lorraine earned a similar wage. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
She loved her job, but was willing to be flexible in New Zealand. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
At 50, I'm not sure I'm going to have a lot of options, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
but I would like to think that I would gain a similar position. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
As part of their fact-finding week down under, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
we'd arranged for Richelle and Lorraine | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
to explore the local job market. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
Lorraine visited the Wilson School for children with special | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
needs in Takapuna and was hoping principal | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Jan Pennington would put some of her worries to rest. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
I am 50 and I'm a little bit concerned. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Is that too old to be applying for posts for a teacher's aid? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:58 | |
Age isn't a barrier in most special schools in New Zealand. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
What we are looking for are people who are passionate, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
and ready and willing to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
A question of what you're prepared to do rather than what | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
-you're qualified to do. -I see. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
It was exactly what Lorraine had needed to hear | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
and a happy mum meant potentially less pressure on Richelle. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
Yesterday was very disappointing, so today... | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Everything is riding on today, really. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Richelle was due to graduate as an accounts technician | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
and hoped her qualifications would be transferable to New Zealand. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
To find out, she met with Martin Richardson, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
director at a local accountancy firm. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
He was quick to point out that, on top of her qualifications, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Richelle would still need to complete a further training | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
programme in New Zealand. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
There's a foundations programme that takes the first | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
year and then there's another two or three years. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
So, if I were to emigrate, I would have to do the extra three | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
-to four years... -Yes. -..to be recognised? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
That meant more studying for Richelle, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
but it didn't seem to put her off. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
So, are there many job opportunities for someone like me | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-emigrating to New Zealand? -Oh, I think so. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Currently, we are employing for next year's grad intake, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
so there could be up to 300-400 grad jobs going. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
It sounded as if New Zealand could have offered more job | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
opportunities for Richelle than the UK. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
What kind of salary would I expect with my age? I am only 18. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
Currently, we are offering 44,000 for the graduates that we're | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
taking on next year. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
The starting rate for seniors is about 65,000, currently. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
About two years later, you can get to manager, which is about 80,000 | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
and then, basically, the sky's the limit after that. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-Wow, that's brilliant. -It was great news. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
If Richelle earned around £24,500, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
it would have more than doubled what she was making a home. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Her dream was back on track, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
if Lorraine was happy with possibilities in her line of work. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
Are there jobs available? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
There certainly are jobs available in special schools, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
but also supporting students in mainstream schools. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Good news again, but did Lorraine fare as well on the financial front? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
Middle-of-the-range teacher aides would be earning | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
somewhere between 18,500-19,000. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:23 | |
That was just over £10,000, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
slightly more than Lorraine was getting a home. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Had the day addressed some of her concerns? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Today, it was so positive. I don't see a barrier any more. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
After a disappointing start to their week, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
work opportunities had proved much more positive, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
so were Lorraine and Richelle a step closer | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
to making a new life in New Zealand? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Based on what we found out today, we're going to vote for... | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
-New Zealand! -New Zealand! | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
-Really? -Oh, yeah! -Wow! | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
It's been awesome. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
It's really been interesting and I'm blown away by what I've found out. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
Well, that's fantastic. Auckland's winning you over, then? | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Exploring work options had proved a positive experience, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
but Richelle knew there was still a long way to go. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Would a day experiencing the New Zealand lifestyle | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
help take her a step further towards her dream? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
In the UK, Richelle loved off-road driving, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
so the day got underway with a four-wheel-drive experience, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
offering her the chance to combine her hobby | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
with her love of the great outdoors. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
I feel so excited to actually be on a four-wheel-drive | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
tour in New Zealand. It's going to be so good. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
Lorraine didn't quite share Richelle's enthusiasm. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
If Richelle's dream was to avoid biting the dust, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
she needed to remember the day was about selling | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
the lifestyle to her mum, too. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Oh, my God. What an experience! | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
I don't think it would be quite for me. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
It just blows your mind. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:03 | |
Blows your mind. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
The pair headed off to explore the scenery from the seat | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
of a saddle and it was much more to Lorraine's taste. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
I think it was last year when we went on our bikes last. So cold. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Takes the joy out of it, then, doesn't it? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
It you've got a place like this, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
with all this view and these houses... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-Yeah. -Beautiful. -Absolutely fabulous. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
It was a much more positive reaction, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
but Richelle knew her mum still faced a difficult decision. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
If she wants to stay at home with Nan, that's her decision, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
but I've got to go where my heart is | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
and my heart's definitely in New Zealand. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
It was a real turning point for Richelle, who, until then, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
couldn't have imagined a future in New Zealand without her mum. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
But if Lorraine did stay put in the UK, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
it could have been her only option. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Would I be happy knowing my mum's alone | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
and lonely in the UK? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
I don't think that would sit well with me. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
I don't think that's right at all. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
No matter what Lorraine decided, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
she faced having to say goodbye to someone she loved. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
If Richelle decided to move to New Zealand without me, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
I would feel lost. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Since the age of three, it's only been her and I. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Tough decisions lie ahead but, based on their lifestyle day, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
had Lorraine seen enough to want more | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
of what New Zealand could offer? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
Based on our experiences today, we vote for... | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Really? It really is a winning you over. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
It is, I've got to say. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
It's been an awesome day and it's just unbelievable what | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
opportunities there are. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
And, today, it just opens your eyes | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
to the possibilities and I'm really impressed. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
-Really good. I'm really glad. -Whoop, whoop. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Lorraine seemed to be coming round, but could mother and daughter | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
actually afford the lifestyle Richelle wanted? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
They needed to figure out if the finances would work down under. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
To help, we provided a comparison of costs between | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
the UK and New Zealand. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
They started with the weekly shop. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Oh, milk. Four pints. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
NZ, the difference is... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
£1.75 for milk | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
-Wow. -For four pints. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
-So, it's cheaper in the UK. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
Chicken is cheaper and rice is cheaper in New Zealand, as well. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
But were they cheap enough to make a difference to the food bill? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
So, it's £47.99 in the UK, and £73.84 in New Zealand, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
so that's £25.85. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
-So, you're looking at £100 a month difference. -Yeah. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
-That's quite... -That is quite a lot. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Even basing their calculations on the cheapest property they saw, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
it was suddenly looking like an expensive move. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Was Richelle's pay increase enough to pull them out of a hole? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
But we haven't taken into account the combined income, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
which is £637 a month, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
-so that leaves us with £415.55 better off in New Zealand. -A month? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:18 | |
-A month. -For real? -For real! | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
It was time to vote. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Today, we did a comparison check on the cost of living | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
in New Zealand and, based on what we found today, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
we're going to vote for... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-Both: -New Zealand! -Really? -Yeah. -Wow! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
It is looking really good. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
It was another good result for Richelle, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
but Lorraine had always been concerned starting again in a | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
new country wouldn't be as easy for her as for her 18-year-old daughter. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
They were both keen country music fans at home, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
so we arranged a trip to a local line dancing club to give them | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
a taste of the social scene New Zealand could offer. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Is it a good way of making friends, joining this kind of club? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Absolutely. There are a few groups around, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
so some of these ladies go to several different | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
classes during the week, so they might go three or four times. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
So, you get different groups of friends and then you get to know | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
other ones...and it's...yeah. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
-That sounds brilliant. -Yeah, it's awesome. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
It was small steps, but Richelle's dream of having her | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
mum by her side in New Zealand seemed to be getting closer. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
The pair lost no time getting into the groove. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
But had the evening given Lorraine | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
the answer she was looking for? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
It's a really good way of making friends | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
and it could be just that little thing extra that entices me | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
to think, wow, I could go for it, you know, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
just on something like this. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
-BOTH: -Yee-haw! | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
It had been a positive week for Richelle as, one by one, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
her mum's concerns about life in New Zealand seem to have vanished. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
But with Lorraine worried about leaving her own mum, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
the biggest hurdle was yet to come, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
as the pair sat down to messages from their loved ones back in the UK. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
Hello, Lorraine. Hello, Rich. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
I hope you find what you're looking for, my love, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
and the weather is kind to you. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Hi, Lorraine. Hi, Richelle. I hope you've had a fab time. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
I hope it's been what you expect it to be. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Hi, Rici. I hope everything's going all right. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
I know you'll be enjoying it already. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
Hello, Lorraine. Hello Richelle. I hope your week has gone really well. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
I hope the weather's been really good. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
They are the loveliest two people I have ever met in my life. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
You have to go a long way to meet anybody like that. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I know I'm their mother, and you shouldn't talk like that, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
but I'm telling the truth. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Smashing two people, inside and out. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Lovely. I do love them to bits. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Don't tell them. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Rici is a fun, bubbly, crazy, generally nice, happy person | 0:24:20 | 0:24:28 | |
and I'm glad I met her. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
If they move... See? I'm started already. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Sorry. Oh, I'll miss her terrible. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
I know she's there when I need her. Do you know what I mean? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
And I think, sometimes, a friend hasn't got to be | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
living on the doorstep. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
They can be just somebody you know is there for you, you know. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
Oh, I'll miss them with all my heart, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
but it's life. I accept that. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
I'm not one to sit and cry. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
As long as they're together and look after each other, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
and they're happy, that's the main thing. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
That's what I do think. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
No, I don't want Richelle to go. I'd rather she stayed... | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
..with all her friends. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Ric, Lorraine, you've been out there now for a week. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
You should know what it's like. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
You should go with your instincts, and go and have a ball. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
As long as you find happiness, your old mum is happy. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
One of these days, I'll knock at your door and say, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
"Ric, get that cup of Oxo on." I'll be out there to see you. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
All the very best, love. I miss you both. Bye. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
That was a bit more emotional than I thought it was going to be. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Listening to my mum, she didn't seem very positive there. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
She seemed, like, waving us off. That's how I felt. That she was... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
It's final, won't hold you back, but adios. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
So there didn't seem any input from her that she would | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
contemplate coming with us. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
Watching messages from loved ones had brought home to Lorraine | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
the heartbreaking dilemma she was facing - | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
having to choose between her mum and her daughter. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Richelle had been dreaming of a life in New Zealand for almost ten years. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
It hasn't hindered my dream in any way, coming out. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
In fact, it's escalated it, which is brilliant. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
It's just an amazing country. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
But her biggest challenge was always going to be convincing Mum, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Lorraine, to start a new life on the other side of the world. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
It's been quite a turbulent journey for me, emotionally. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
The trial week had helped Lorraine set aside most of her fears, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
but Richelle knew she was still torn over leaving her mum back in the UK. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
My nan is quite a frail lady. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
She's 82 now and I think my mum would stay with her. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
Were Richelle and Lorraine coming to the end of their life together? | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
This is my dream and there's no going back for me. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
I've had an incredible journey with Richelle | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
and I really want to carry on with that, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
even if it's from a distance when she's got her own family. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
With her hopes still pinned in New Zealand, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Richelle's future with her mum was uncertain. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
As their final vote approached, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
would Lorraine's final decision delight or devastate her daughter? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
We've both had a really adventurous week out in New Zealand | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
and, based on all our findings, we vote for... | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
-New Zealand. -UK. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
No! Only joking! | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
-New Zealand! -Really?! -Yeah! Yes, really. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
-I've got a feeling I don't even want to go on that plane to go home. -Why? | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I know. How weird is that? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
-I just feel that this is it. -My heart sank so much. -I had you! | 0:27:52 | 0:27:59 | |
-No, I really don't want to get on that plane to go home. -Wow! | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
-I'm so glad. Really? -Yeah. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
I'd say, give us 18 months and we'll be here. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
-I really feel that strong about it. -Wow! | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
-That's amazing! -I want to die here, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
not particularly this week! Not this week! | 0:28:13 | 0:28:18 | |
Not for a long time, but I feel like this is it. I want to restart here. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
I want to retire here and...that's it. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
-Wow! My God! -Whoop, whoop! -Wow. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
THEY WHOOP AND SHRIEK | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
When it came to her final decision, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
Lorraine had been won over by what New Zealand had to offer | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
and Richelle had secured the result she'd definitely been hoping for. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
So, two years after their week in Auckland, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
have the pair made it to the other side of the world? | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
It's October 2015 and the Barkers are living in... | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
..Rhyl in north Wales! | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
But the town won't be home for too much longer. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
Richelle was delighted when her mum signed up to follow her dream. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
When my mum turned the card to Australia at the last minute, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
it was just like all my dreams had come true. It was... | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
-You turned the card for New Zealand. -What did I say? -Australia. -Did I?! | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
Well, it has been two years, I guess! | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Their trial week in the country had proved a turning point for Lorraine. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
Within three days of landing in New Zealand, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
I started to see things in a different light | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
and I thought, "You know what? This just could be for me. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
'The high points for me were the landscapes,' | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
meeting the people, which are so friendly. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
And New Zealand had delivered on all fronts for Richelle. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
'I loved the weather, the beaches.' | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
It ticked all of my boxes. It was everything I thought it was going to be. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Flying home on cloud nine, Richelle made the most of her time | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
in the air to start planning her move down under. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
'I was so excited on the way home. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
'My mum had made everything seem possible.' | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
We had reams of paper for lists, detailing all the things | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
we needed to sell, do, see. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
Returning to Rhyl, they got the ball rolling straight away. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
We put the house up for sale and we thought, "That's a good start." | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
The pair couldn't wait to break their news to Lorraine's mum. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
But, on seeing her, their excitement quickly faded. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
We went to my mother and said all this to her, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
and even though she was very positive and said, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
"Go for your dream", we could see that she was a very ill woman. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Though she'd been ill for some time, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Lorraine was shocked by the change she saw. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
We were only gone, I think it was, just over two weeks. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
But when we came back, in that short time, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I could see her health had deteriorated. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Lorraine knew leaving her mum just wasn't an option. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
I can't go to New Zealand knowing she's, A - on her own. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
B - quite old, C - very ill. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
I thought, "What are you thinking?" | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
She and Richelle put their dream move on indefinite hold. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
'Life just take over sometimes. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
'You haven't got much control of something.' | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
The decision was taken out of my hands really. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
'It put everything on stop. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
'I did think about going to New Zealand on my own.' | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
But with Mum saying that she couldn't leave Nan | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
because her conscience wouldn't let her, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
I couldn't leave my mum then because I would feel the same. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
I just thought it's a little tiny price to pay for her, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
who's been with my all my life. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Over the next couple of years, Nan's health continued to deteriorate | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
and in April 2015, she sadly passed away. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
She just stopped fighting. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
We couldn't do anything, the doctors couldn't do anything. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
I wouldn't have liked to see her in pain | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
because she was in a lot of pain at the end and... | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
I did pray to God to take her because it's not nice to see. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
It's very selfish, I think, to want to keep somebody just for you. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
Nan's death left a huge void in Richelle and Lorraine's life. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
It was so sad. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
It was a big loss to lose my nan. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
She was a third of my family, so to lose her, it was just devastating. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:25 | |
Richelle's gran had thoughtfully left behind a card for her | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
21st birthday. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:30 | |
On opening it, mum and daughter discovered a poignant message. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
She wrote us both a card to say follow your dreams, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
which was her final blessing to go to New Zealand. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
The inspiring thought meant the world to the pair. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
I know she's in a better place and I know she's given us | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
her blessing to go. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
-She'll always be with us in here. Yeah? -Mm. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
With Nan's blessing in hand, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
there's now no stopping Lorraine and Richelle. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
The dream's back on track and the two-year delay means Richelle feels | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
she's in a better place to embrace life on the other side of the world. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
'Since we've been to New Zealand, I do feel a little bit older, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
'a little bit wiser.' | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
I've had more work experience and I've been like a rolling stone, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
and I've collected all that moss and I'm ready now to go to New Zealand. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
But it won't just be Lorraine and Richelle making the move, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
for Cupid's arrow has struck. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
I said, "What kind of guy would you like to meet?" Do you remember this? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
-Yeah. -You said, "Well, he's got to be big and he's got to have tattoos, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
"and he's got to have a motorbike." | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
And I said, "It doesn't work like this." | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
But when I met him, he's the walking checklist of what she wanted! | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
'It was pretty much love at first sight.' | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
When I met her, I just knew she was the one. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
She was so beautiful, I was lost for words. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
She's a go-getter, you know. She's all that I need and want. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
Luckily, mum and boyfriend Kieran have hit it off. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
He's a lovely, lovely guy. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
'Me and Lorraine click really well. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
'We have laughs. You know, I can talk to her about anything.' | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
She's like my second mum really. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
'I'm so glad you both get on really well' | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
because that would be a major factor, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
because my mum is my best friend. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:29 | |
New Zealand had always been Richelle's first love | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
but, luckily for her, Kieran was quickly on board with the idea. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
Once he heard I wanted to go to New Zealand, he said, "I'm coming too." | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
He'd never been abroad when I met him, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
so to go 36 hours to a new place is, like, crazy. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
And... But he wants to do it. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
From the start, I knew it was clear she wanted to go to New Zealand. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
I was so in love with her I'd follow her anywhere. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
'It's her dream and I'm willing to share the dream | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
'and make it both our dream.' | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
'It just meant that I could re-fire' | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
this dream that I've always had with the love of my life. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
Kieran's wasted no time in putting his money where his mouth is. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
Next year is the year that he qualifies to be the mechanic | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
that he's always wanted to be. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
He's been e-mailing the garages out there to say, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
"I'm coming out next year. What do I need to work in your garage?" | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
I'll be looking to go into a garage straight away. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
It's what I want to do. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
In the end, I want to open my own garage, a Welsh garage, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
in New Zealand. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I'm going to take a little bit of Wales with me to New Zealand. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
While Richelle's Australian passport means | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
she doesn't need a New Zealand visa, Kieran will | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
and that means a short delay in them making the move. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
'To enable Kieran to come out,' | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
we need to be living together for 12 months, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
which is why we're renting our own little house before we come out. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
With nothing holding her back, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Lorraine's bravely decided to head down under first - alone. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
Mum is going out first by the end of this year, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
and me and Kieran to follow next year. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
I'm hoping to go to New Zealand by the end of the year | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
and that will be my ideal. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
But while she's itching to embark on her new life, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
Lorraine's dreading being separated from her daughter. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
'I'm not looking forward to the gap because we've always been | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
'quite close, so it is a little bit daunting' | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
to go to New Zealand and know that she's not down the road, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
she's not even in the next town or even on the same island. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
'So, I have thought about it and I'm just hoping that we can get by.' | 0:36:37 | 0:36:43 | |
-Like that, Mum? -Yeah, that's nice. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
'She is my best mate and I don't really...' | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
..really relishing the thought of being the other | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
side of the world away from her. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
'It's quite scary that I'm going to let her go free.' | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
I know it should be the other way around, but I do help my mum quite | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
a bit and I think it's quite scary that, A - I'll have no-one to help. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
And B - she'll have to do it all on her own. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
But Lorraine's trying to stay positive. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
It's just a few months, when you think of it, 12 little months. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
-Yeah? Like that, yeah? Happy with that? -Mm. It's all right. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
It's all right! | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Though they spent their trial week in Auckland, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
two years on, the pair's destination down under has changed. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
I've sort of researched lots of different areas | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
of New Zealand to see where else we could go | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
and the one that came out to me, blazingly came out, was Wellington. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
It's a little bit warmer. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
It's got loads and loads of things for me to go | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
and explore and discover, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
and house prices are very much more favourable. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
And it's got a Welsh club and it's part of the rugby, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
so what more could I want? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
I'd love to see the Hakka. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
-The Hakka? -Hakka. I want to see that. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
All those naked thighs running around! | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
THEY BOTH LAUGH | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I've researched it quite a lot. I like the set-up. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
It is the capital and, for that reason, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
I think there'll be more chances job-wise, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
especially for Richelle because she's a financial assistant. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
I think, if you can get into the government in some form, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
I think there's openings there. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
While Richelle's been busy plotting her course | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
for a career in New Zealand... | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
I'm still hoping to be an accounts assistant or an office worker. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
I've got a few courses and things I've done under my belt here | 0:38:39 | 0:38:44 | |
that should help me get quite a wide range of jobs out there. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
Lorraine's keeping an open mind on work down under. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
I don't mind taking a completely new career change. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
If it's working in a shop, driving a bus. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
I'm quite up to any suggestions, really, as long as I'm enjoying it. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
But if she did have her choice, there's one role she'd relish. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
My ideal job, I think, for me in the future, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
I would love to be some part of, and this sounds silly but, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
on a tour bus and go round and make the journey funny, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:21 | |
and look around myself whilst I'm there. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Finding out different roads where they lead to, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
what's this mountain called? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
The history of the Maori people. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
I think it's all interesting. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
That'll be my ideal job. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
I'm hoping not too bad or too severe a challenge, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
but it's going to be a new avenue, a new experience | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
and I think, at my age, I could do with a little bit of that. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
The coming year is going to be life-changing for the Barkers | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
and in more ways than one. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
Then next year we're getting married, so that's really exciting. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
The big day's set for May 2016. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
I'll change that to the colour... | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
No, it's something old, something borrowed... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Something new and something blue. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
We're planning the wedding so soon, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
so we'll get to see everyone together in the same place. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
It's a chance to say goodbye as well as we're getting married. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
It's going to be a really emotional day. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
Mum would have perhaps preferred a longer engagement. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
At first I felt, and there is still a little tiny part of me | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
that feels she's too young, myself. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
But knowing Kieran, knowing how they are together, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
they're so good for each other. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
He is a lovely guy and I think, "Well, let's run with it." | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
They're happy. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
And she'll be making the journey back to the UK | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
to give the pair her blessing. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
The plan is to come out, just for the week, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
so that I can catch the hen night and obviously the wedding. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
And then go out back to New...home, back to home in New Zealand... | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
a day or two after. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
As if planning for a wedding wasn't enough, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
Richelle's also been busy preparing for her life-changing move. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
We've researched companies and things we can do out there, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
and house prices, and we're saving for a deposit for our house. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
She's sticking close to her original vision of life down under. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
'My forever home in New Zealand would be somewhere where | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
'I could have chickens and sheep, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
'a huge kitchen where would be the heart of the house,' | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
and somewhere with a lot of land to play in and, hopefully, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
in the future, a lot of children to play in too. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
Lorraine's clearer on what she wants from the future. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
'I would like to think, in three years' time' | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
I'm settled in my home, I've got a nice little part-time job, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
I'm in some different courses and clubs, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
and I've got a little network of social life, friends | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
and being part of Richelle and Kieran's life as well. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
It's taken a bit longer than expected, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
but finally it looks like all systems go for Richelle's | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
lifelong dream of a new life in New Zealand. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
At this moment in time, I'm feeling really positive about the move. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
My mum's house is up for sale, she's sold all her furniture, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
she's on track to move out. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
'It's very much, after our wedding, what are we waiting for? | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
'I really, really believe in adventure and I think you've just | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
'got to go for it sometimes and have some fun,' | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
and do what you want to do. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
New Zealand's always been a part of me | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
and I think, even from a young age when I was in school, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
people knew me as the girl who wanted to go to down under. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
I think it's just something everyone knows and is just waiting for. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
So, I'm just really glad now that I can say, "It's happening." | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
It's going to be a massive year for the Barkers, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
with not only a life-changing move on the cards | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
but Richelle tying to knot too. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
We hope Richelle and Kieran's big day is a truly special one | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
and that they, and Lorraine, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
go on to have a very happy future together in New Zealand. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 |