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Many couples dream of moving down under in search of | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
a better life but, for some, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
the reality of emigrating is a tougher | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
challenge than they could ever imagine. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
In 2013, Andrew Treagust was hoping to convince partner Emma to | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
follow his dream and agree to move to New Zealand. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
Today, two years on, we'll find out how and where they are now. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:26 | |
Back in 2013, Andrew Treagust had high ambitions for a new | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
-life down under. -I could so do this for a living. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
It could be my office every day! | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
But Emma wasn't convinced of the merits of a move. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
I like the idea of it. I don't know if I like the reality of it. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Two years on, have the family made a new life in New Zealand? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
We've made a choice right now that this is what | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
we're doing as a family. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
With its amazing scenery and diverse culture, New Zealand has long | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
been a place of interest for British citizens looking to emigrate. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
But of the estimated 7,000 who make the move every year, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
almost one in seven return. Proof indeed achieving a | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
dream life on the other side of the world isn't as easy as you think. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
In 2013, Andrew Treagust and Emma Woodward had one week to discover if | 0:01:36 | 0:01:42 | |
New Zealand could give their family a happier, healthier lifestyle. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
At the end of their trip, they faced a heartbreaking decision | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
whether to stay in the UK or leave family and friends behind | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
and make a new start on the other side of the world. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Today, we'll discover which side of the world they now call home. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
The family's trial week in New Zealand began with a journey | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
which saw them spend 25 hours in the air. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
It feels a really long time when you're on the plane, doesn't it? | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Yeah, you wouldn't want to do it all the time, that's for sure. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Despite the long journey, Andrew was raring to go. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
Definitely feels real now we're here, and really exciting as well. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
-Yeah. -It's going to be a big adventure. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
But Emma was a little more reserved. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
-My fears are is that we're really split on our opinions. -Yeah, true. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
-I just hope we either like it or dislike it. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
-I don't want to come away more confused. -Exactly. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
The couple now had a week to sample life in New Zealand | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
before making one of the biggest decisions of their lives. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
In 2013, Andrew Treagust and Emma Woodward were living with | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
Albert, then aged two, and baby George just outside Brighton. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Life was good in the UK with a beautiful home, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
two lovely children and plenty of friends and family to support them, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
but Andrew wanted to give it all up for a new life down under. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
We've worked really hard and I think we've probably worked too hard, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
especially over the last ten years. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Andrew had recently resigned from a high-powered career in the City - | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
a job he had loved but which eventually had worn him down. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
He needs a complete break | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
and a complete change from the life that he has here. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
We've realised that there's more to life than just working. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
He could just go and be relaxed Andrew rather than | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
driven Andrew, and I think that's what New Zealand represents to him. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Andrew knew exactly what he wanted from New Zealand. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
It's got to give us a great house, it's got to give us | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
a great lifestyle, it's got to give us community, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
it's got to give us good schooling and it's got to be | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
somewhere that we want to live for the rest of our lives. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
But Emma was worried about giving up her career as | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
an educational psychologist in the UK. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
I love my job. I'm passionate about what I do. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
To give that up and move somewhere else that might not be | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
as I want it to be is really hard. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
And she dreaded the thought of breaking strong family bonds, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
especially taking Albert away from her mum - his beloved nanna. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
They adore each other. They meet on some kind of level. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
They just love each other. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
I've seen such an amazing side of my mum since Albert was born | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
that I don't think she deserves me to take him away from her. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
But Emma was prepared to give New Zealand a try. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
If there's a possibility that our family life could be more | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
equally shared out in terms of happiness and potential | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
and enjoyability and all of those things somewhere else, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
then I have a responsibility to go and explore that. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
That's about being a family, isn't it? That's about compromise. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
That's about sharing. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
Andrew was convinced New Zealand's outdoor lifestyle could | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
offer his family a better future but, unless he could persuade Emma, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
his long-held dream would come to nothing. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Emma has to like it or it's not going to work for any of us. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
If Emma says no, then no is the way it's going to go. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Andrew, Emma and the boys spent their trial week in Auckland. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Home for their stay was | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
this two-bedroom cottage on the outskirts of Devonport - | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
a seaside village just a ten-minute ferry ride from the city centre. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Andrew wasn't overly impressed with the space on offer. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-This would be good for the week. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-And I think the boys will really enjoy it. -Yeah. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
But a house that we'd buy would need to be of a different size. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
With Albert out for the count, Emma and Andrew's thoughts | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
turn to the big decision they faced at the end of the week. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
It's a really long way, you know, so that's kind of already kind of | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
making me think it's a big separation from my family | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and it is a massive effort to get here. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
I'm worried, um, that we're not going to be able to afford | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
the property that we think we are going to be able to afford. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
But their fears hadn't dampened their spirits. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
I'm quite excited about it. I'm quite up for it at the moment. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
It's really interesting, just to be here | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
and it be turning to reality now. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Back in the UK, the Treagust-Woodwards were living | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
in a four-bedroom detached house in Saltdean, just outside Brighton. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
They loved their house | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
and knew what they wanted from a home in New Zealand. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
It's got to be a good size - four bedrooms | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
-and possibly somewhere for guests to stay. -Mm-hm. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
It's got to be fairly open plan, it's got to be self-cleaning! | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
Just bright and airy and comfortable. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Hopefully, near to the sea so that we can go surfing quite a lot. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
I want it to be fantastic. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Andrew and Emma owned a number of properties in the UK and had set | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
themselves a healthy starting budget of £540,000 for a home down under. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
To give them an idea of the Auckland property market, we showed them | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
three houses based on what they said they wanted and needed. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
With Albert and George left with a childminder for the day, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
the couple's search began at the newly-built Kensington Park | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
development on the Hibiscus Coast. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
20 minutes north of Auckland, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
this modern four-bedroom house was close to the beach, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
which should have been perfect for surf-mad Andrew, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
but did it have the space they wanted? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
-It's big. -Yeah. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
-Oh, it's nice. It's a proper family area, isn't it? -Mm. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
-Feels like it, doesn't it? -It was looking good. -Open-plan kitchen. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
-Really nice kitchen. -It is a nice kitchen. -Yeah. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-I like the work surfaces. -And you could cook... Look at that view when you're cooking. -It's really nice. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-You could just cook, looking at your sea view. -And upstairs, the views just got better and better. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
-Look at that! -Wow! That's got the wow factor, hasn't it? What a view! | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Now, if that doesn't entice you to get up | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
and go surfing in the morning, I don't know what will. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
-Wake up to that view every day. -That's amazing! -That is gorgeous. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
With four bedrooms, this house had the space the couple | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
wanted for visiting friends and family. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
-That would work really well as a guest bed, wouldn't it? -Yeah. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
This house had everything they'd been looking for | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
but would their impressive £540,000 budget cover it? | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-So what do you think it's going to be? -I'm not sure. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-It's going to be a lot, isn't it? -Yeah. Shall we find out? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Let's find out. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
Wow! £648,500. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
It was more than £100,000 over budget but... | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
-That's good. -That's a lot of house for your money, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-For that view. -For that view. -I'm surprised. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
-I thought it was going to be nearer 900,000. -That is really good. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Let's buy it! | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
It was over budget but, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
thanks to their property portfolio in the UK, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Andrew and Emma could have had the ability to increase their | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
spending power, so they weren't put off. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
Next up was a spacious six-bedroom home in Mairangi Bay, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
also on the North Shore. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
With fabulous beaches, an excellent kindergarten | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and a lively community, this area could have been | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
perfect for Andrew and Emma's young family, but did they agree? | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
-I like it. -It's a nice through-area, isn't it? -Oh, it's really nice. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-But it's very long and narrow. -No, it's not. I do... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
I think I prefer it to the other house. I feel it could be... | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
-It's not as good as the other house. -It feels more homely, I think. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
It does feel more homely but it's just that it's not as open and airy. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:58 | |
Maybe cos it feels lived in because this is somebody's house. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Cos it IS lived in. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Emma and Andrew seemed to have different opinions on this one. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
See, I like... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
It feels open plan but it's got defined areas, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
-and I quite like that. -The rooms feel quite small to me. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
Size was an issue for Andrew, and it wasn't the only problem. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
There's a reason why that's drawn, isn't it? | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
Because it's obviously quite overlooked. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
And there's a shared access right outside of the house. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
-Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that you can't control, living here. -Exactly. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Now Emma wasn't quite sold | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
but the downstairs granny flat did put a different spin on things. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
This is perfect for when people come and stay. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-My parents would be happy as, wouldn't they? -Yeah. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
It'd be lovely. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
That was something they agreed on but | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
did the garden offer the space the couple wanted for Albert and George? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
It's OK. It's not much of a garden, though, is it? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
-Do you think I'm being quite fussy? -What, you, Andrew(?) -Yeah. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
You have to be fussy, I think, but still, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
there's not much of a garden space. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
So I suppose we'd better go and see how much it's worth, really. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
If we can't afford it, there's not much point. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
This house really had brought mixed reactions | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
so was their starting budget of £540,000 enough to cover its cost? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
-Wow! -There you go. 687. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
It was almost £150,000 over their budget | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
but finding extra funds didn't seem to be a problem for Andrew and Emma. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
-That's a good price for what you get, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
It's interesting, and now confusing. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
-It still doesn't make me want to go and buy it right now. -No. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
It was affordable but Andrew's heart wasn't in this house. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
With two down, would the last property offer the couple | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
everything they were looking for? | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
It was in Torbay, also on the North Shore, and close to the beach. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
This four-bedroom house with a separate granny annexe | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
for visiting parents should have been the ideal house for the family. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-Not too shabby, is it? -That view is stunning, isn't it? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
It was a promising start. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
And it's all about being outside and eating, barbecuing. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
-Oh, it just feels so nice. It feels quite secluded, doesn't it? -But... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Can hear the road though. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Can you get to the kitchen? | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Yeah. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
And the road noise was just the start of the problems. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
It's just I want to kind of take everything out and start again. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
-It's just not done to my taste at all. -Yeah. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
First the road, then the decor, cracks were beginning to show. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
-Quite a small room. -They're all small bedrooms. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Do you know when you're kind of coming in to the house | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
-and really looks quite imposing... -It's imposing, isn't it? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
-Definitely not as big inside as you think it's going to be. -No. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
Especially when you consider that there's the granny flat downstairs. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
It looked like this wasn't the house for Emma or Andrew. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
But did the cost change their minds? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
I don't feel confident about making a guess. What do you think? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
-About 750? -I think about seven. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
OK. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-My goodness! -That's great value. -Really good value. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
£521,000. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
That was almost £20,000 under budget. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
If you spent, what, £50,000 changing it, that's still... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:23 | |
70 grand cheaper than the last cheapest house. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
I'm really surprised. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Exploring the local housing market had been a real | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
eye-opener for Andrew and Emma. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Property one was something of a showstopper | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
and less expensive than the couple expected. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
The second house was £147,000 over their starting budget, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
but the price still hadn't put them off. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
And although property number three didn't live up to first | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
impressions, its price tag meant they could afford to turn | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
it into their dream home. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:55 | |
So did the couple vote for property in the UK or New Zealand? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
We've had an interesting day looking at properties | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
and based on that, we vote for... | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-It was a good day, wasn't it? -Really good day. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
I was really surprised that you got that much property for your money. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
-Yeah. -And amazing views. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
In a lovely location. I don't know what else you could ask for really. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
It was a great start for Andrew. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
Emma's first vote for New Zealand | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
was a big step in the right direction. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
The desire to come to New Zealand was all about the relaxed | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
outdoors lifestyle the family could enjoy. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
So was a day of Kiwi style living enough to keep Andrew's dream alive? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
With Andrew and Emma both keen surfers, we took them to Piha Beach, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
a popular surfing spot just 14 minutes' drive from the city. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
While baby George was looked after by a childminder, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
it was a chance for Andrew to show Emma | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
and Albert the kind of lifestyle he'd been dreaming about. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
We'd come down every weekend, wouldn't we? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
It's so close to the city and it's such a beautiful place | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and just a beautiful beach. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
Albert may have been a little young to fully appreciate the surf, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
but Andrew could picture it as part of his future. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
I'd love to see the boys grow up in | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
a wet suit and just surfing every weekend. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
It's the sort of thing I wish we'd done as kids and it'd be | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
-really lovely to afford Albert and George that, wouldn't it, really? -Definitely. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
After their morning riding waves, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
the couple took the boys to a nearby park for some playtime. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
So far, the day had been everything Andrew had hoped | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
And he was pleased with how it seemed to have affected Emma. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
She seems really comfortable here | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
and when we've been driving about, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
she says sometimes that she thinks she could live here, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
so I think that's a really good indication of the way things | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-might go in the future. -Watching the kids here has been brilliant. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
I don't feel so far away from home. It feels familiar, but different. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
It's... It's... It feels relaxed. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
But time out had also made Emma realise just how big | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
a decision the couple were facing. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
When I think about being at home... I don't know really. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
They're all kind of... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
There's no clear tipping point at the moment. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
So, based on lifestyle, did the family choose New Zealand or the UK? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
We've had a lovely day today and based on that, we vote for... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. -New Zealand! | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Yeah! | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
You're fantastic, aren't you? Sand all over your face. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
You said New Zealand! | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
Emma's vote for New Zealand had been a real confidence booster, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
but Andrew knew there was a much bigger battle ahead. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
Back in the UK, Emma was an educational psychologist. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
I'm really passionate about my job. It's really important to me | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
and it enables me to empower people to make change in their own lives. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Giving up her job would be a massive wrench. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
It's an amazing place to work | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
and I'm going to have to potentially give all that up if we move. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Andrew was dreaming of a career change if the couple did move. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
I'd love to be a snowboard instructor and I can imagine | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
waking up and being really excited about going to the mountain. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
And having the mountain as your office. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
You know, it's a fantastic dream to have. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
But if Emma didn't find the right post down under, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
his dream would come to nothing. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
It's a deal breaker for me, I suppose. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
It is a deal breaker for me. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
You can't change the way that you feel about it. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
And if it doesn't feel right, I genuinely don't know | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
if I'd be able to do it. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
The stakes were high. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
While the boys were looked after by a childminder, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
the couple set off to find out about work opportunities in Auckland. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
We arranged for Emma to meet a clinical | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
psychologist at the Waitemata District Health Board. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-Hi. -How are you? I'm Tina. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
I'm the psychology professional leader here. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-So, this is the sort of place that you would be working. -Mm-hm. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Across town, Andrew went to check out his dream of becoming | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
a snowboard instructor at New Zealand's only indoor snow | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
sports facility and he couldn't wait to hit the slopes. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
I could so do this for a living. It could be my office every day. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
Back in the real world, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Emma was finding out about her work prospects. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Based on my CV, would I be able to get a job in New Zealand? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
-Yes, very definitely. You're on our wanted list. -Mm. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
It's really a matter of what sort of area you'd like to work in. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
OK, that's good news. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
It was a good start, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
but Emma worried working practices might be different in New Zealand. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
You're wanting to work more in the child and family area, aren't you? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
-That's my qualification. -Yes. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
Usually, the psychologist would work sort of across the whole sector. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
But you can specialise in the younger pre-schoolers | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
-or you can work with the older adolescents. -OK. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
That was one concern put to rest. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
Back at the Snowdome, Andrew met with manager Brad Alwin to find | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
out what opportunities could exist for him as a snowboard instructor. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
So, I've been snowboarding about ten years. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
I'm just really exploring, from your point of view, whether it's | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
feasible and whether it's something that I could potentially do. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
It's definitely feasible. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
Worth, once you arrive, doing a New Zealand based qualification. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
Through the course, we can see how well you actually teach, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
we can teach anyone to snowboard, we can't teach everyone to teach. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Yeah. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
Once qualified though, how much work would there be? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
In a full day, an average ski instructor would probably | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
-work six hours, during peak season. -Mm-hm. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
-Your part-time or casual instructor may only get two hours a week. -OK. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
The window that we have to make money and to ski | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
and for you to be employed is four months. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
-OK. -If we're lucky. -Yeah. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Definitely not a full-time option. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
Emma's earning power was more crucial than ever. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
How much as a psychologist would you get paid to work in New Zealand? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
With three to ten years' experience, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-it's nearer 61 to, say, about 97,000. -OK. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
You'd be somewhere in the middle there, I would imagine. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
That was around £10,000 less than Emma earned back home. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Would Andrew's potential income fill the shortfall? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
As a rookie, as a first year employee, you can | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
expect to earn minimum wage, or about 14.50 an hour. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
That wouldn't make up for the deficit in Emma's salary. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
It may have been his ideal job, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
but Andrew would be earning the minimum wage. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
The day had given the couple food for thought. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Had it put an end to Andrew's dream? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Undecided. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Me too. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
-Why undecided? -Erm... | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Because although I felt that some of my fears were allayed, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
I still really like my job at home. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
It's a great lifestyle opportunity. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
I'm just not sure I'm ready to take a lifestyle opportunity right now. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
Despite loving the lifestyle, the cold, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
hard facts couldn't be ignored. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
If Emma and Andrew moved, they'd be earning a lot less money. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
It was time to find out if they could actually afford the move. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
We prepared a comparison of the cost of living in the UK and New Zealand. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
They started with the weekly food shop. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Fruit... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
-Fruit's quite a lot more. -It's quite a lot more expensive. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-Spinach is randomly quite a lot more expensive. -What's cheaper? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Couscous is cheaper. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:30 | |
OK. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
And flour is cheaper. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
So you have to do a lot of baking. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-So it's £37.43 more expensive. -Wow. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
It was an increase of more than £150 every month. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Basing their calculations on the final property they'd seen, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
the couple moved on to compare the bigger costs of living. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
So, our mortgage in the UK is £670. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Our mortgage in New Zealand, for the property that we looked at, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
would be £1,583. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
So that's an increase in mortgage payments of £913 a month. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
So we'll be £1,784 worse off in New Zealand. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
And that's huge. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
-That's massive. -And we couldn't effectively do that. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
With the figures weighing heavily on their minds, it was time for Emma | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
and Andrew to choose between finances in the UK or New Zealand. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
So, based on what we've just been looking at, we vote for... | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-Undecided. -UK. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
I just think that we can't make this model work. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
And it's got to be rethought. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
But there is wiggle room and that's why I've gone undecided. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
OK. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Emma and Andrew's trial week had revealed some harsh home truths | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
and there was still more to come. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Emma worried about taking the children away from her mum. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
So would watching messages from friends | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
and loved ones from home prove too heartbreaking? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
While baby George took a nap, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
they settle down to watch the DVD together. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
They're lovely. They're really lovely. Very close family. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
They like going out and doing things together, like being by the sea. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
They're free spirits, they are adventurous. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
-They've done a lot of travelling. -Emma is very zesty. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Pretty proud to have her as a daughter actually | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
cos she's full of life. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
There's my nanny. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:41 | |
Andrew's my younger brother. He's always been a bit of a wanderer. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
He's always liked doing a lot of travelling. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
But he's a great guy, he really is a great guy. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
And he adores his kids. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Andrew and I lost our dad coming up for three years now | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
and we have become much closer since we lost Dad | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
and it's really nice having him close. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
Having Andrew nearby is a comfort. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
It is the little ones that I think... | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Just tugs at your heart strings a little bit more, doesn't it? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Yeah, it's... Yeah. Yeah, yeah. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Albert is gorgeous. Obviously, I'm a little bit biased. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
He's the best grandson in the world. There's nobody like Albert. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
We have a real bond. We do. We really have. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Albert is absolutely gorgeous. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
-Just a lovely little boy. -Yeah, there would be a gap, a huge gap. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
Also the opportunity of not getting to know George. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
I think that's the big thing. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
It would feel quite empty, wouldn't it, really? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Just knowing that they're not here. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Yeah, it would be a bit odd, I think. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
We can't pretend we're happy about it. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
But we're not unhappy about it. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
It's just the fact we're going to miss you, miss the kids. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
But I hope it goes well for you and it's what you really, really want. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
And if that's the case, then we're all for it. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
-My mum looked a bit devastated. -Mm. Mum will really miss the kids. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
I think it's the grandparent connection that's the really, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
really hard one. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
Even though they've got everything here, nice climate, beaches, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
lifestyle, that kind of thing, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
that's not really something you can replace so much, is it? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
I don't know if I want that responsibility | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
to make that call really. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
You know, I don't know if we're just confusing it. I don't know. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
No, I don't know. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
To say that growing up in New Zealand is more important, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
better for them, than having a relationship | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
with their grandparents, is not really a decision... | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
-They're not two options I want to decide between. -No. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Hearing messages from those they love the most have been a painful | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
reminder of what Emma and Andrew would lose if they left the UK. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
The couple faced a heartbreaking dilemma - | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
give the children a new life in New Zealand or keep them | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
close to the grandparents who love them so dearly. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
As their trial week drew to a close, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
it was time for Emma and Andrew to make their decision. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
I hoped New Zealand would be good. It's been amazing. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
The country itself, I love to bits. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
Really enjoyed kind of getting a sense of what it would be like | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
to live here, rather than just to be on holiday here. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
I think it's been an invaluable experience. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
But with so much at stake, had the lifestyle been enough to | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
convince Emma to move to the other side of the world? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
It would be very easy to sit here in this beautiful park, surrounded by | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
a really family friendly environment | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
and be seduced by the idea of living in New Zealand. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Until I've got that flag in my hand, I don't know what I'm going to vote. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
She has told me she is willing to sacrifice part of her career | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
aspirations, if you like, for the lifestyle of us and our children. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
And I think that's a lovely thing to do. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
But I'm not sure how I feel about that. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
So, after 15 years of talking about it, just where did Andrew | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
and Emma see their future? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
New Zealand or the UK? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
We've had a really interesting week | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
and based on everything we've seen, we vote... | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
-New Zealand. -Undecided. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
Undecided, eh? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
I think there are two sticking points for me. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
There was the finances and friends and family. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
If everyone was here and the finances were bad, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
then I would have said New Zealand. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
And if the finances were better and we got to visit our families | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
more often, then I would have said New Zealand. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
I don't disagree. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:56 | |
There are still some questions that we need to answer. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
I still think it's a really serious option. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
-I think we could make it work if we wanted to. -What's your vote? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
England! | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
In the end, it seemed as if the thought of breaking the close | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
bond between their children | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
and grandparents was just too much for Emma. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
Andrew's dream appeared to be on hold. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
So, two years after we last saw them, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
is it still Brighton they call home? | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
It's May 2015 and Andrew, Emma, and the boys, are living in... | 0:29:35 | 0:29:41 | |
Auckland, New Zealand. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
Despite being undecided at the end of their trial week, Emma | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
eventually had a change of heart after spending time back in the UK. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
We did a lot of thinking and we sat on it for a bit. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
Emma had reservations because we have, or had, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
a great life at home in Brighton. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
And it's a difficult thing to pull yourself away from that life. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
There was a lot on offer in New Zealand. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
I just had to think about how to make it work for us as a family. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
And you just have to look harder sometimes, don't you? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
The turning point for Emma came | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
when she visited an online forum for jobs in New Zealand. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Somebody posted on there that there was a work seminar day | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
at New Zealand House for jobs in psychology in New Zealand. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
So I went. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
Emma discovered there was a vacancy in her field in Auckland. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
I applied. Had the interview. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
It was, I think, 9:30 at night, UK time. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
So I was in my bedroom, in my pyjamas. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Three people had dialled in, so it was a conference call | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
across the other side of the world, which was a bit odd. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Despite the unusual interview, Emma obviously impressed. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
She was offered the job the next day. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
It was almost like we couldn't not go, we were on that path and kind of | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
the destination was set towards New Zealand and it was about working out how to get there. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
Things were falling in to place, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
but then Andrew began to have second thoughts. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
It became more real for me and more scary. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
In fact, at that stage it was me that said, "Whoa! Hang on! | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
"Let's slow this down a bit." | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
The couple spent months going round in circles, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
debating whether to stay put in the UK or make the move down under. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
-Until... -There wasn't a clear winner. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
There was differences and so it was just like the only way we'll know is to go, so we'll go. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
Before they could change their minds again, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
Emma booked their flights to New Zealand. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
That was a very scary moment because that was very much like - | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
we are going to do this now. This is where we're headed. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
With tickets in hand, there was no turning back. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
It was the shift from it becoming a dream | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
and something that you talked about to it becoming real. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
After 18 months of deliberation, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
the couple finally began to pack up their lives in the UK. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
I do remember being absolutely surprised how quickly you can | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
deconstruct your life that you spent years building up. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
That was the easy bit though. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Telling family was the worst part. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
And they were fairly aware that it was coming, but it was really | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
difficult to tell grandparents that we were moving away. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
I think people who know us knew that we were never not going to go, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
to be honest with you. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
I think they just hoped that we wouldn't. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
They arrived in Auckland in July 2014, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
in the middle of the New Zealand winter. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:37 | |
That was quite a tough thing, leaving the UK summer | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
and then stepping off the plane into the New Zealand winter. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
And just everything being turned on its head. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
The couple found the transition much harder than they'd expected. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
It was a tough month. It was a very tough month. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
You're not on automatic pilot for anything cos you don't know | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
where to buy milk, you don't know the best shop to do this, you don't know anything. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
I won't lie that there are days, especially | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
when we first arrived, where I woke up and just thought, "Oh, my God! | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
"What have we done?" | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Andrew and Emma had initially taken a short-term let | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
on a rental in New Zealand, but soon decided the best way | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
to settle was to find somewhere they could really call home. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
We always had a vision of where we wanted to go to. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
To get there, we kind of stuck true to what we knew | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
we wanted to do, which was to live out in Piha really. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
It was the vision of New Zealand that we had from the UK. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
It was living by the beach, it was living in a community. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
It is being part of something, whereas in the UK, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
we felt more like we were a number. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
And we wanted to move away from that. Piha has given us all of that. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
Having set their hearts on living in Piha, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
the couple had to go to unusual lengths to secure a home there. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
We had some flyers printed and we put them | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
in the letterboxes for all the roads we wanted to live in, in Piha. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
It was a photo of us as a family and just said, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
awesome family home wanted for a lovely family... | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
An awesome family! | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
And just outlined what it is that we wanted, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
and had our telephone numbers on the bottom. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Their unique ploy paid off. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
We just put the word out really, and just trusted that something | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
would turn up and it did, because things do in New Zealand. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
That's generally our experience. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
It couldn't have been better really, could it? | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
Andrew and Emma are delighted with their new home. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
It's unique in so many ways, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
and it fits in almost perfectly with the experience that we wanted. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
The position of the house is awesome | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
because we are literally the last house, and so we are kind of nestled | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
in the bush and yet we get this awesome view | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
right down Piha beach and I don't think you can beat that location. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
In the summer, it is lovely because you have got a hammock | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
and you've got a chair and you can just chill on the deck. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
In the winter we have got the wood burner. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
And we can just spend time being cosy inside the house, so even | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
for New Zealand it's pretty cool, but for us, it's really amazing. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
-You do feel like you are in a very special spot, don't you? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
So this is the main playroom. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
We set this up for the boys so they had a space of their own | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
for all of their toys. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:27 | |
You get to play with the boys and you get to look out on the beach, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
and the sea and remember where you actually do live. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
-The playroom is the best view in the world. -It certainly is. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
The higher you go, the better it gets. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
This is the most amazing bedroom I think we've ever had, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
purely because of the view. It's absolutely awesome. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
Going to sleep every night with the sound of the waves lulling | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
you to sleep every night is amazing, isn't it? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
And in the morning it is like the beach is right there | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
in your face when you open your eyes, so... | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
-It is a lovely way to start your day. -A lovely way to start your day. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
The house's setting has made Andrew the go-to man | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
within the surfer community. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
I don't need to check the surf report | 0:36:05 | 0:36:06 | |
because I can see straight down the beach. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
People phone me and text me to find out what the surf's doing. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
For a pair of picky property punters, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
Andrew and Emma can hardly believe they've found their dream home. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
We often say to each other that living in a house | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
like this on a beach like this is the vision, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
and it's the vision that we had, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
it's the vision that we talked about and that vision came to be true. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:33 | |
While the house may be everything they want, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
things haven't been quite so positive on the work front. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
Leaving behind a job she was passionate about in the UK | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
was a real struggle for Emma. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Handing in my notice was really tough | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
and I still feel sad about it now. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
I do still very strongly feel connected to my old job. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:56 | |
I don't think I ever won't. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
Adapting to her new role working for the Ministry of Education | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
in New Zealand has been a challenge. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
It is very different. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:06 | |
It is very case-by-case centred, whereas the work | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
I did in the UK was more about the organisation and the system. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
I know psychology, and I know how to be a psychologist, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
but learning how to be a psychologist in the New Zealand | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
context is something that I'm taking my time to learn. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
Having worked part-time in the UK, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Emma is finding it hard to adjust to a full-time role. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
I never really wanted my hours to increase, but the potential | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
for working part time wasn't an option in New Zealand. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
I used to enjoy having four days a week | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
where I wasn't in work or I didn't have to think about work. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
I'm seeing it as a means to an end, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
It's not something I want to do permanently. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Emma has already put plans in place to become her own boss. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
I'm in the process of setting up my own business, my own consultancy. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
I've been doing some seminars around New Zealand which is something | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
I really am interested in doing and I'm really happy to do. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
The point to move here was to explore something different, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
and in doing that, I need to be working for myself | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
and that's where we're headed. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
For the moment, the family are living on Emma's wage alone. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
One income is difficult. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
Emma doesn't earn quite as much as she did back home, and I'm | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
not earning at all, so we've lost 1.5 wages, which is quite tough. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:24 | |
Andrew's ambitions to become a snowboard instructor down under | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
are still on ice. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
They offered me a job and I was very excited about that, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
but unfortunately, it's just not really possible financially. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
I just can't really afford to do the job. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
It doesn't pay quite as much as I might like. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
He's turned his thoughts to more mundane methods for making money. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
I've taken steps to start my own property management business. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
I've got to start generating some money so that Emma can | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
perhaps step back a little bit from her role, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
and we can even out so we can both maybe work part-time | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
and both spend time with the children. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
That's our vision, that's our ideal. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
For the meantime though, Andrew's a busy stay-at-home dad. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
My average day is almost completely different to how it was in the UK. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
I get up and I get the kids up, I give them breakfast. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
They go to pre-school a couple of days a week now and that frees me up | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
to do the kind of looking after the house stuff | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
and looking after the family stuff, doing the food shopping. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
Er, and maybe squeeze in a bit of surfing, Andrew? | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
I've surfed more this summer than I've ever surfed before in my life. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
I'm definitely a lot better than I was and that has been wonderful. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
More than anything, I'm really enjoying getting in the water. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
Dad's not the only one having a swell time. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
Both Albert and George are thriving in their new environment. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
It fires their imagination. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
They're both little boys, they're both really into dinosaurs | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
but why wouldn't you be into dinosaurs | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
if you live in something that looks like Jurassic Park? | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
I'm a palaeontologist! | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Albert has got no doubts about the move. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
I like it here better cos I live by the beach. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
For them it's just a wonderful, amazing childhood experience. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
Part of the reason for us coming here is | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
they would have more of a laid-back, kind of organic flowing lifestyle. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:36 | |
And they do have that. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
But is the childhood being missed by those back home? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Something Emma is only too aware of. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
Leaving my mum has been a massive thing, and not just for me, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
for the kids as well. And I haven't reconciled that. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
And I find it difficult. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
I know she's not going to get that time with the kids back again. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
I know Emma misses her mum and the kids miss their Nana Rabbit as well. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:06 | |
The family keep in touch with loved ones back home regularly, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
but video messaging is a far cry from being together. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
You can send a voice message with a bedtime story, but it's not sitting | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
in bed with them all cuddled up having a bedtime story. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
I wish I had a friend... | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
It's different. It is different. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
The hardest part of the move was leaving people behind. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
I'll wake up in the middle of the night and think, what have we done? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
We've made a choice right now that this is what we are doing | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
as a family, and the cost of that, one of the costs | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
of that is that they don't get to spend as much physical time | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
with their other family members, so, yeah, there is a trade-off there. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
What you gain, you also sacrifice a lot for. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
While being so far from loved ones at home is hard, Andrew and Emma | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
have already built a strong social network in Piha. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
The community is very close-knit, very supportive. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
Everybody is very friendly. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
There is really no other way to live in a place like Piha, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
than to be a part of the community. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
I think we've embraced that but they've embraced us as well. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
The move down under is all about a healthier, happier lifestyle, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
so do the couple think it has been worth it? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
It has been an amazing experience. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
I've never regretted coming here and having this experience, for sure. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
I think the things we wanted to aspire to in a lot of ways, we've achieved. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
It was something we had to do and something we are enjoying doing. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
I feel like the really hard thing is out of the way. The creeping doubts. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
They go away over a little bit of time. You start to just enjoy life. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
-It's the fun bit. -It is the fun bit, yeah. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
They may only be ten months into their New Zealand adventure, but | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
the Treagust-Woodwards seem to have found what they were looking for. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
We've definitely made the right decision. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
We couldn't have not come, and I'm really pleased that we have. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
It's exactly what we wanted and I can't ask for more than that. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
We are living the dream. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
Within a space of two years, it looks like Andrew and Emma really | 0:43:03 | 0:43:08 | |
have achieved the life they have been dreaming of in New Zealand. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
The family's future looks bright and we wish them all the best. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 |