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If you believed a warmer climate | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
could give you back the family life | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
you once knew, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
how far would you go to get what you wanted? | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
For one mum, it could mean moving to the other side of the world. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Hayley Hooper's ill-health | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
has robbed her of being a mum to her two young children. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
I couldn't care for them, and it's... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
-SOBS: -..one of the worst feelings in the world to me. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
Now she passionately believes | 0:00:27 | 0:00:28 | |
moving to Australia will help turn things around. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Being in a country where there is sun... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
..you know, 90% of the year, if not more, would, in my eyes, benefit me, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
which means it would benefit my children. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
But when a week down under shows the whole family the positive... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
She's, you know, got a bit of a lust for life again. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
..and negative effects of a potential move... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
I'm already getting emotional | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
thinking that it's not going to work in our favour. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
..will the Hoopers decide their future lies at home or away? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
This is a leap of gigantic proportions. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
It's either England or Australia... | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
..and it's really tricky to decide, isn't it? | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
With one of the lowest population densities in the world, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
it's no surprise so many Brits flock to Australian shores every year | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
in search of a better life. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
Today, the country has over one million UK-born residents, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
but the grass isn't always greener, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
and leaving everything you know half a world away | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
can be a lot harder than you think. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Suffering from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
Hayley Hooper's spent the past few years | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
struggling to cope with everyday life. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
Desperate for a fresh start, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
she believes Australia's warmer climate | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
could dramatically change things for her whole family. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
Now, she has just one week to convince husband Phil | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
relocating to the other side of the world | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
really is the right move. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Getting from the UK to Brisbane | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
normally takes about 23 hours in the air, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
but for the Hoopers, a delay circling over Dubai | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
has meant an especially arduous journey. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
It was long, it was very long. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
A lot worse than what I anticipated | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
and not something | 0:02:30 | 0:02:31 | |
that I really want to do back in a hurry, if I'm honest. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
Phil's already pointing the finger. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
I've said all the way in the last 30 hours, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
"This is all your fault, Hayley." | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
The long flight's given Hayley plenty of time to think. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
I've dreamed it for so long that, now I'm actually here, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
I'm scared I've put it on too high a pedestal | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
and it'll all come crashing down. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Let's hope her fears are unfounded, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
as the family set out on a week | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
which could determine the rest of their lives. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
The Hooper family are Mum, Hayley, Dad, Phil, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Lewis, aged ten, and Amy, who's six. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
They live in Warwickshire in the West Midlands, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
along with Harley the rabbit. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
-You've had him on your lap, haven't you? -Yeah. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
-When he's clean. -Yeah, that's true. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Hayley and Phil met 15 years ago at a kickboxing club. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
She was a physically fit person... | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
..bubbly personality. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
But just four years into their marriage, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
things changed dramatically | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
when complications with her first pregnancy | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
left Hayley unable to walk. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
I was actually on crutches and within a wheelchair. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Back problems, pelvis problems. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
You know, she was kind of bedridden for 15, 18 hours a day. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
Hayley's health improved after Lewis was born, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
but when she became pregnant again a few years later, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
the problem returned with a vengeance. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
I was in so much pain. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
Oh, God, it was horrendous. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
I just thought I couldn't cope with this any more. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
I wanted... I wanted to kill myself. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
With Hayley struggling, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
daughter Amy was born by Caesarean section four weeks early. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
I can still see her now, the little incubator, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
the hat on, gas and air in her | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
and wires everywhere. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
Shortly after Amy was born, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
Hayley was diagnosed with ME | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
and even the simplest tasks became monumental. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
There was one Christmas I overdid it with cooking | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
just a Christmas dinner | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
and I was then in bed for three months afterwards. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Hayley feels her condition has robbed her children of their mother. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
I couldn't look after them. I couldn't care for them. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
And that's... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
one of the worst feelings in the world to me. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
It's beyond her control. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
Because it puts pressure on both of us, I get quite angry about it, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
angry of the fact that she's got it | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
and the fact that we can't always deal with it | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
as we'd want to and have the life that we want to. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
In an attempt to keep her health in check, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Hayley has regular visits to an osteopath. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
I do find it very beneficial. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
If I'm down with the ME, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
I tend to find my body reacts, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
and I get a lot of pain from that, joint aches and pains, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
so he kind of keeps my body on the straight and narrow, you might say! | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
But family holidays to Spain have convinced her | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
her health could be even better living in the sunshine. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Whenever I'm in the sun over there, I'm a different person. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
You know, I can go swimming every day with the kids, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
and it doesn't affect me. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
In the summer, my mum always seems a bit more boosted, I suppose, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
and happy and well and able to do more things. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
I mean, my doctor has even said, turned round to me and went, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
"You know, can't you move to a warmer country?" | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
He said, "It would do you so much better." | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Longing for a fresh start, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
Hayley's now desperate to uproot her family | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
and move halfway across the world to Australia. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
So, obviously, being in a country where there is sun | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
in 90% of the year, if not more, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
would, in my eyes, benefit me, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
which means it will benefit my children. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
But Phil's not convinced. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
The sunshine factor is a big thing in Hayley's mind. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
It remains to be seen whether that really is the case. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Having got things on an even keel at home, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
he feels the move could set them back again. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
We've just reached the stage where you're not in bed 18 hours a day. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
I really don't want to go back to that sort of time. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Amy and Lewis aren't sure, either. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
I would like to go to go on holiday, but I wouldn't fancy moving there, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
because I'd miss everybody that I know. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
I'm sort of on the fence. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
I'm worried about leaving our circle of help and family and friends, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
but I do know that it might be a better future in Australia, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
better for health. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
So it might be worth giving it a go. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
Having managed to regain some control in her life, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Hayley's determined not to lose it again. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
For years, I couldn't do anything... | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
..and now I can again, and I'm not letting it pass me by. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
For his wife's sake, Phil has agreed to a trial week down under. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
As much as I'm scared of the prospect of it all... | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
..I know we've got to give it a shot. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
And Hayley's pinning all her hopes on Australia | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
being the place she can become the mum | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
she so desperately wants to be. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
I don't want to be sitting on the sidelines, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
watching in, while somebody else plays cars on the floor with them | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
or you know, teaches them to ride a bike. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
I don't want to be on the sidelines. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
I want to be in there with them, doing it. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
That's, for me, my dream. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
The Hoopers are spending their trial week in Queensland. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
Their temporary home is a four-bedroomed property | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
at the northern end of the Gold Coast. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
First impressions are good. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Wow! | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
It's pretty much the only thing you can say really, isn't it? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-Wow! -Wow. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Look at this! | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
It's their first taste of an Aussie home, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
and they're definitely not disappointed. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
It's... Can't quite take it all in, to be honest. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Wowzers. Look at this! | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
This ain't real, surely. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
Outdoors, Hayley's lost for words. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
I don't think there's anything... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
The only way you can. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
The location, the layout, the pool, everything, it's just like, yeah, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
this would be the dream. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
The long journey's already a distant memory for Phil. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
That's just one day, isn't it, of travelling, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
to be somewhere like this. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
The whole family are impressed. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I'm speechless, put it that way. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
I think it's a really nice place. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
She's only been here a few hours, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
but Hayley's already feeling the benefits of the southern hemisphere. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
I had a lot of pain on the plane, but since being here, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
it has eased, you know. So far, so good. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Hayley's in seventh heaven, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
but Phil's keeping his feet firmly planted on the ground. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
Beautiful as this is, my first instinct is, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
we can't afford this! | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
He's prepared to keep an open mind, though. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
If there's a possibility that I could find a job out here, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
and we could find a property like this, | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
then it would make the decision a whole lot easier, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
because this is just incredible. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Such enthusiasm is encouraging for Hayley, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
but the positive note will have to continue in the next few days | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
if she's to get the fresh start she's craving. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
Back in the UK, the Hoopers live in a four-bedroom semi | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
in the town of Bedworth near Coventry. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
We've got a decent-sized house, really, in the UK. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
It's a slightly larger than average-sized kitchen, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
which is what I love about it, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
because I love my baking. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
We'd like something of a similar nature in Australia, really. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
Bigger bedrooms would be nice, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:40 | |
cos as much as we've got lots of downstairs space, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
the upstairs is a little bit tight. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Their property boasts a good-sized garden, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
something they wouldn't want to give up in Australia. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
-We'd want the same at the very least, wouldn't we? -Yeah. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Finding the right family home is a must for a move. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
It would almost be a deal-breaker. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
If I'm going to go somewhere to have a good lifestyle, you know, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
downsizing isn't on the cards. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
The Hoopers have a budget of £220,000 for a home down under. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
To give them an idea | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
of what their money could buy on the Gold Coast, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
we'll show them three properties - | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
two close to budget | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
and one which should be everything they want in a dream home. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
The search begins in Coomera. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
34 miles south of Brisbane, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
the residential suburb offers good value for money. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
Situated opposite a park | 0:10:26 | 0:10:27 | |
and within walking distance of a new shopping centre, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
this four-bedroom family home | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
could be just what the Hoopers are looking for. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
What do we think? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
Don't know. I can't see for the fence. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Lovely quiet area, though. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Once inside, first impressions are lacklustre, to say the least. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
I want to love it. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
But it's not catching me just yet. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
-Just don't like the layout. -No. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
A door in the open-plan living area reveals potential. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
OK. Wasn't expecting that. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
-That's a big garage. -Well, that's a pleasant surprise. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
You could probably convert it to quite a good annexe | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
or something for family for coming over. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
The garage opens onto a back yard, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
but it's not what Hayley's been dreaming of. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
You'd almost see this maybe more as the front of the house, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
but without a front door. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
You drive in, and then you're in the house. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
Back indoors, the upstairs space proves pleasing. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
Oh, it's a nice big landing, isn't it? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
It surprised me. I didn't expect it | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
to be quite this big upstairs, to be honest. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
It's bigger than downstairs. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
The master bedroom's a decent fit. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
In terms of space, it's a bit more than what we've got. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
It is good. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
But Hayley's disappointed. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
It's just... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
-It's not grabbing you. -No. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
I think we're all in agreement with that, really, though, aren't we? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
A small balcony overlooks a bijou garden. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
So, in effect, that is the only garden out there. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-Yeah. -You'd rather have a bigger garden, would you? | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Our garden is massive, isn't it? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
The property isn't hitting the mark with the family, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
but is it somewhere they could afford to buy | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
with their £220,000 budget? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
I wouldn't want to pay any more than £190,000. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
It may be more than that. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
It's a reasonable-sized property. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Well, I think it probably will be quite expensive. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
So, are we going to have a look, then? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Go on, then. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
It's within budget, but I wouldn't pay it. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Phil's not put off, though. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
If we could find something similar size bedrooms-wise, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
but with a better layout downstairs, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
then that's encouraging, isn't it, really? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
I think there's better houses out there. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
-Hopefully. -Hopefully. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Fingers crossed, Lewis. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
The next stop is in the suburb of Pacific Pines, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
a fast-growing, family-friendly area | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
just a 40-minute commute from central Brisbane. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
It's this one here. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
Looks nice, doesn't it? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Will this three-bedroom, two-bathroom family home | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
offer more than the last? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Thumbs up so far, I'd say. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Yeah, it's definitely got that curb appeal, driving up to it. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Yeah, this is, this is nice. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
The open-plan layout is much more to their liking. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
It's bright, it's got the room. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
It's a very large room, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
very spacious, and I think you could probably fit more than a TV | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
and a couple of couches in here. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Nice sales patter, Lewis. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
The kitchen's perfect for Hayley, too. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
This is big enough. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
It's got the oven that's a bit higher for me as well. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
The fact that it flows through does make it feel bigger. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
I could see myself in here. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
Her enthusiasm continues in the master bedroom. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Ohh! | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Oh, that's nice. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:51 | |
-And an en suite bathroom. -Oh, it's got the en suite, yeah. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
Yeah, looks good. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
Lewis has got his estate agent's cap on again. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Quite easy to just get to sleep, I suppose, here. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
No bothering of trains or cars or anything really roaring past, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
waking you up in the middle of the night. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Quiet. It's nice. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I'd quite happily just move in now, I suppose. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
And he keeps going in the other bedrooms. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-Mm! -Nice! Nice built-in wardrobe. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
This is a nice room. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
But there are only three bedrooms. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
-As a family as it is, really, the house is spot-on. -It's spot-on. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
But we'd like the fourth bedroom for people to come and visit. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
The outdoor area pleases... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-That's a nice little patio area, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
..then disappoints. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
But there's not really much room for these two to run around. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Amy's not too concerned. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
I can still do cartwheels down here, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
and we can still play tennis, probably. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
But Dad's not convinced. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
If we could find something else like this | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
with that little bit of extra space indoors and outdoors, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
but if this is over our budget, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
-then we've got problems, haven't we? -Yeah. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Time to find out. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
The family's budget is £220,000. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
I'd probably say it's top-end of the budget, if not a little bit more. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
I would probably be expecting even more than that, maybe. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
-Do you think? -230, 235? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
What do you say then, Lewis? Do you want to turn it over? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
Go on, then. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:19 | |
Mm! | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
That's just £1,000 over budget. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Pleasantly surprised. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-Although that's the top-end of our budget... -Mm. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
..if we can get something that ticks all the boxes, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
then we'd have to push ourselves to get that. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Yeah. No, that's encouraging to see. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
Pleased with that, yeah, definitely. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
With the family encouraged by the price, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
it's time to move on | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
to what we think could be the Hoopers' dream home. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
It's also in Pacific Pines. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
With four bedrooms, it should have the space they're looking for, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
but will they agree? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Oh, that looks nice. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
I've got a good feeling, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
but then, never judge a book by its cover, I suppose. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
That's what you call an entrance! | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
A generous master bedroom's just off the hallway. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
-Oh, wow. -Wow! | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
-Wow! -It's huge! | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
This is space. This is spacious. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
There's no two ways about it, you know. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
Almost too big, I think. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
No! Disagree with you there. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
That's not an en suite. This is a fully-fledged bathroom. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
It's pretty swish, isn't it? | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Phil's impressed, but he's already worried | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
the price might clean them out. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
I'm kind of counting it up as we go already, going, "Ka-ching, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
"there's 100,000!" | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
Is this going to be the mother of all walk-in wardrobes? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Oh, my life! How big?! | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Amy, it's your bedroom! | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
It's fab, yeah, liking it, definitely liking it. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
A home cinema room's perfect for family time. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
Be great to sit here and have movie nights, wouldn't it? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
And Hayley's enchanted with the open-plan kitchen-diner. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
I'm in heaven. All this space, Amy, eh? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
There's not anything you'd change in here at all, is there? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
You'd just go, "Move in." | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
It's our sort of house, this is, isn't it, for definite? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
You know we won't be able to afford it, though. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
An undercover entertaining room is the ideal spot for relaxing. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
This is outdoor living, isn't it? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
-Yeah. -You can just imagine sitting here in the evening, having a drink. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
Yeah, I really like this area. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
And the pool's the icing on the cake. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Wow, that's a deep pool. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
It does tick all the boxes, doesn't it? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
It does tick all the boxes. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
It's just how much is it going to be? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
This property is everything and more | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
they could hope for in an Aussie home, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
but is it somewhere they can afford with £220,000 to spend? | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Shall we have a look, then, and see what the damage is? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
Ooh! | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
It's £100,000 over budget. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
But Hayley's not too surprised. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
I would have to say, for the house for what it is, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
I would class that as good value. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
-It's just... -It's just we can't afford it. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
-Yeah! -Does the pool go? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Does the fourth bedroom go | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
to get down to a figure that we can manage? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
I know I've said I wouldn't compromise on things. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
But maybe I'll have to, if we really want to... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
I could dream about us living in a house like this. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
But to be honest, I can't really see it as reality. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
If Dad gets a good job, you never know. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
-Yeah, we can dream. -We can dream till then. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
It's all on you tomorrow. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:18:37 | 0:18:38 | |
The Hoopers have had highs and lows exploring homes on the Gold Coast. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
Property number one impressed upstairs, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
but downstairs fell short | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
of the family space they wanted. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
The second house was more up their street, and affordable, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
but the lack of a fourth bedroom | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
and limited outdoor space wasn't ideal. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
The final property was a show stopper, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
but a hefty price tag | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
meant it could be beyond reach. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
So, when it comes to the vote, will it be home or away? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Based on the properties we've seen today, our vote goes to... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-Australia! -Undecided. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
It's kind of what I expected, to be honest. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Me and you still together, Lewis. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Why are you undecided, Amy? | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
It doesn't feel right leaving our house. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Fair enough, darling. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:34 | |
I chose Australia | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
because even though the last property was out of our price range, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
the second one was close enough, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
and I think if we get the right area, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
we can still have a really good property. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
And why did you choose Australia, then, Lewis? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Similar reason to you. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
I'd agree with that, mostly, which is why I've said undecided. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
We need to do a bit more research. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
With the family split down the middle, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Hayley's still got some way to go | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
if the life she dreams of is ever to become a reality. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Desperate for a fresh start for her family in Australia, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Hayley knows if Phil can't be convinced | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
he'll have good job prospects down under, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
they won't be going anywhere. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
Back in the UK, he's a systems analyst in information technology. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
Something I'd like to continue, if possible. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
It's my only real skill set. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
As the sole breadwinner, he knows the pressure's on. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
I do feel a great deal of responsibility. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
It's going to affect my life and three other lives. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
If I can't find the right job in the right area, then... | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
..there's just no point in going. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
As Phil sets out to explore | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
his chances of finding work on the Gold Coast, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
he's only too aware of what's at stake. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
I think Hayley's quite concerned today | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
because I'm here on my own, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
and she wants to be the puppet master pulling the strings, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
and it's a bit beyond her control at the moment. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
So, I think she'll be quite anxious of what I say and what I find out. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
We've arranged for him to visit a local recruitment company | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
where he's met by Ben Bawsey. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
-Hi, Phil. Ben. -Nice to meet you, Ben. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
-Welcome to the Gold Coast, mate. -Thanks very much. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Come on through, we'll have a chat. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
Things get off to a positive start. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
I had a bit of a read over your CV before we caught up today. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
And there is some interesting crossover there. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
I definitely feel like you could find what you're looking for | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
in the south-east Queensland area. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
That sounds good. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
If they do make the move down under, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Phil would want a job in place before they left the UK. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
I've got to have that knowledge that I'm starting something, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
I can bring the family over. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Not just jump in and then wondering where I'm going to work, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
where we're going to live. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
But it doesn't quite work that way on the Gold Coast. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
I know this is a big risk for you, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
but probably weighing up the possibility of moving out | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
before securing a job, because it will just be very hard for them | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
as far as your timelines are concerned. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Trying to secure a job and then trying to give the notice | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-and then also the move over here which is huge. -Sure. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
It's not really what Phil wanted to hear. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
While he's been checking out job opportunities, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Hayley and the children are doing some research, too. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
With a visit to All Saints Anglican School, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
expat headmaster Patrick Wallas gives them a big welcome. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
-Hello. -Lovely to see you! | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
You must be Amy and Hayley. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
I'm Patrick, lovely to see you. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
-Nice to meet you. -And this is Lewis who's just past his 11-plus, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
well done. Shall we go, then? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
-Yeah. -Fantastic. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
I think we'll start with our lovely theatre. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Wow. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
Back home, both Lewis and Amy are academically high-achievers, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
so it's important they can continue to do well | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
in the Australian education system. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
You want to look like a fish? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
Go ask him for a mullet! | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
The most important thing for me | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
is to get the best possible teachers from around Australia, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
and then just really care for them and nourish them | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
and help them to grow into the best they can possibly be. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
That's kind of what we want to hear, really, isn't it? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
That's very reassuring. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
Across town, Ben has some encouraging news for Phil, too. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
You are coming over here at a really good time. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
We are about two years out from The Commonwealth Games. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
We've seen a big upswing in construction, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
and that has a really big knock-on effect | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
to all the other industries here on the Gold Coast. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
So, what kind of salary could he earn? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Down here on the coast, I would say, you know, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
you'd probably be looking at roles around 100K plus super. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
That's approximately £53,000, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
a substantial increase on what Phil's currently paid in the UK. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
So, that's good news. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
It's good to get a feel there's stuff around here. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
That's been great, really useful. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
Back at the school, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
Lewis is about to make a grand entrance in the Wonder Space. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
-THEY CHEER -Well done, Lewis. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
Amy's turn next. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
And finally, not to be outdone... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Wish I'd had a headmaster like that! | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
This cutting-edge facility is designed | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
to cultivate curiosity and creativity. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
As you can probably see, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
the whole idea is to get people to think in a different way. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
While Lewis and Amy get stuck in... | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Now, don't distract Lewis. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
..Mum gets the headmaster's take on | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
how Lewis could thrive in a school like this. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
We operate the Australian curriculum here | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
which is actually a very rigorous and robust curriculum. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
And there are extension classes in every subject at every year level. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
So, he will certainly be fully engaged. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
That's good to know. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
And Amy? | 0:24:29 | 0:24:30 | |
If we felt that Amy was ready for Year Four, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
we would then discuss it with you. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
I don't want Lewis or Amy ever coming home in the car saying, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
"Mum, I was bored," or "Mum, I didn't learn anything today." | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
And I'm really confident that that will never happen. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
It's been a successful visit. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Very, very nice school | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
with some rather original ideas to teach kids. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
I really like it here. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Amy's still got some reservations. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
I feel quite happy but also scared for our move to Australia. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
Lewis is quick to put her at ease, though. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
If you came to school to this for five days of the week, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
I think you'd be a pretty happy kid. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
This is a very nice school. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
Taking me out of the equation, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
and my health out of the equation, just for these two alone, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
it has so much to offer them for their future. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
It's been a really good day. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
But attending a school like this will all depend on Dad. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
So when the family reunite, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
Hayley's anxious to know how Phil's day has been. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
It's been a bit of a mixture of a day, really. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
It was better in terms of what they were saying about 100,000. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Good news in terms of the salary. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
But to stand a good chance of securing something, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
you need to be here rather than the UK. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
-We've still got more adventures to have. -Yeah, I know. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
But, by the end of the week, that little bit of... | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
It's given us stuff to think about and worry about. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
But it's been a constant worry since we started, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
so why should now be any different? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
For now, though, when it comes to work, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
will Phil go with his head or his heart? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Based on the work day, my vote goes to... | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
..undecided. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
I was hoping to apply for something and then move to it. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
And it doesn't look like that's as likely to happen. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
It's more a case of being here and then trying to find the work, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
which, for me, doesn't sit very well. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
With Phil still undecided, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Hayley's dream of a fresh start down under | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
is yet to get off the starting blocks. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
A move's all about improving her condition, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
so she can become the mum she desperately wants to be. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
So, will a day out in the Australian sunshine | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
help her persuade Phil emigrating is a risk worth taking? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
The family are spending their day at a horse riding stable. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Amy, do you want to take this brush? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
That's it. Say hello. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
-Hello. -She's lovely, isn't she? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
I think she likes me. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
After a getting-to-know-you session, it's time to mount. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
If you put your whole leg through the stirrup, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
your whole foot falls through. That's when it can get dangerous. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Horse riding is something Hayley enjoyed before her illness. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
It's been a while. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
It's been a while! | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
It's a first for Phil, though, and it shows. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
-Off we go. -Yours doesn't really want to move, Daddy! | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
Call the AA! | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
Finally! But it doesn't last. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
-LEWIS: -No better than when he started. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
He's happy enough, and so am I. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
We're just chilling. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
It's been a new experience for the children, too, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
and they seem to have taken to it with ease. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
My favourite thing was doing the trotting. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
It's fun. I've learned quite a lot on those horses. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
And I've really enjoyed it. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Being back in the saddle has given Hayley a high. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
Oh, I've loved it. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
The feeling of being on a horse, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
there's no other feeling like it, it's lovely. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Today's been everything she could have hoped for. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
The whole trip was worth it, just coming and doing this, to be honest. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
It's just been an amazing day. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Phil's noticed a marked improvement in Hayley's wellbeing. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Nice to see her doing something quite physical. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
I think she was feeling it a little bit at the end. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
But doing way more than I expected her to, really. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Back in England, I can't even sit on a horse | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
because it just flares my joints up terribly. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Just doing that was a major milestone for me. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
She's got a bit of a lust for life again. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
If that was something that could be long-term, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
then it can only be a good thing. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
I kind of feel now | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
that there's even more pressure to try and make it happen. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Being here right now and knowing that it is within grasp, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
it fills me with hope. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
If it doesn't come off, I'll be gutted. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
This is a leap of gigantic proportions. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
I don't know if I'm prepared to do that yet. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
Based on their lifestyle experience, though, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
will the family vote for the UK or Australia? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
We've had a really great day today, horse riding, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
and based on this we've decided to vote for... | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
-ALL: -Australia! | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
We're all Australia? Wow! | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
HAYLEY LAUGHS | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
So, why did you choose Australia, then, Amy? | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Because all the animals are really nice. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
And all the things here are nice, as well. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
And being able to do it in the sunshine? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
I've spent almost 11 years in England, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
and I've never even touched a horse. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
And I've spent five days in Australia, and I've ridden one. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
-And you really enjoyed it? -Yeah, I enjoyed doing it, too. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
There's no denying it's just a great place. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Despite all my other reservations, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
really enjoyed the day today and can see us enjoying other days. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
I'm feeling just ever so slightly happy at the moment, you know. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Dream's a little bit further, closer, who knows? | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
Bit, bit... Just there and touching. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
Hayley's hopes may be riding high with Phil's first vote for Oz, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
but there's still a way to go before she reaches the finish line. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
Affording the lifestyle she dreams of won't come cheap. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Getting the right price for their house in the UK could be key. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
They think it's worth around £180,000. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
We sent round two estate agents to see if they agree. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
There's our house. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
This is a nice-sized family room. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Neutral decor, very smart. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
Wow, this is a fantastic space. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
The kitchen is very large. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
I can imagine a lot of people wanting to buy a property | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
which has a kitchen as large and spacious as this. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Oh, it's my kitchen. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
Ah, this is a good room. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
This room could be used for a number of different purposes. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
It could be as it is, a bedroom, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
study, office. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
-Lego! -Whose Lego's that? | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
Yeah, this is a nice room. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
It's a shame the figures can't stay | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
because I'm sure lots of kids would love to have those. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
In the current market climate, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:21 | |
we'd recommend marketing the property at £200,000. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
If they're looking for a quicker sale, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
then maybe marketing at offers over | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
£190,000. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
In the current market, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
I would put this property on the market at £190,000. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
For a quick sale, £185,000. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
-A bit of a difference between the... -Two estate agents. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
..two estate agents. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
We've had an idea of sort of 180, 185. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
To have it confirmed by the estate agents is really good. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
I mean, both of them, at the end of the day, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
are more than what we initially thought, so that's a good thing. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
Right, are you two going to go and play, then, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
while we try and work out the sums, yeah? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Come on, then. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
The couple move on to examine the price of everyday living. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
I'm already getting emotional thinking about the possibility | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
that it's not going to work in our favour. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
The only way we're going to know is if we open it. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
-Go on, get it open. -Right, OK. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
We've provided a comparison of costs in the UK and Australia, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
starting with the weekly supermarket shop. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Squash, look at that, almost three times the price. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Yep, pure juices are cheaper. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
-Raspberry jam, three times the price. -Baked beans. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Good grief! | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
We'll have to wean Lewis off them! | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Oh, my God, decaf teabags, the end for me, £7.50 difference. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:46 | |
So, there's not many reds, really, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:47 | |
down there showing it's going to be cheaper. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
So, what does it all add up to? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
£68 more per week, nearly £300 per month. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
I definitely don't want to hear it that way. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
That's a lot to make up on other things through the month. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
It's a disappointing start. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
Time to tackle the bigger outgoings. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
Basing their calculations on the second property they viewed, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
the couple's mortgage down under | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
would cost them over £400 more a month. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
The mortgage looks bigger, but council tax looks less. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
There's a saving! 37 quid. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Electricity's higher, though. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
Car insurance higher. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:24 | |
Home insurance higher. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
There is one positive, though. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
Osteopath's cheaper, so I'll be all right for my treatment. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
But, you know, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
hopefully, I won't need the treatment at all if I'm over here. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
When the couple compare overall Australian outgoings | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
to what they spend in the UK, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
they discover they'd be worse off by almost £1,000 every month. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
Very, very sad face. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
Hayley's devastated. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
I was expecting us to be A BIT worse off each month. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
But, from those figures... | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
If it had been a couple of hundred, 300, we'd have gone, you know, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
worse off, can we recover that? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
But those are enormous differences, aren't they? | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Ironically, Phil's disappointment gives Hayley encouragement. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
If anything, I'm kind of pleased that you're disheartened, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
because that shows you possibly are wanting to come. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
So that's a step more further | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
than what I thought I'd ever get with you. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
I'm not... Yeah, I'm not looking for an excuse not to come. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
I just want to see that it's doable. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
And that doesn't look doable. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
Even factoring in Phil's potential increase in salary, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
the family would be over £600 worse off per year in Australia. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
I'm sad that it is a minus. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
But I'm happy that it's not a massive minus. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
Hayley's trying to look on the bright side, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
but Phil puts a spanner in the works. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
As soon as we factor in the cost of another car, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
or the cost of one or both of the kids going into a private school, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
then it just blows it out of the water, doesn't it? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
I want to be excited that it's only a small amount. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
But... | 0:34:58 | 0:34:59 | |
I can't. I just can't. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
It's time to vote. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
Based on our reality check today, we're going to vote for... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
-BOTH: -Undecided. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:16 | |
-That surprise you? -No, not really. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
I want to vote that, you know. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
And I thought I would do that on everything, if I'm honest. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
But... | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
I can't argue with the figures, can I? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
I've kind of come down-to-earth with a bit of a shock, to be honest, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
-a bit of a bump. -I thought it would be a case of, no, we can't do it. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
At the moment, it's a case of, well, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
although we've seen things in black and white, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
depending on how we live our lives, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
and how we do things differently over here, it could be more doable. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
I don't know, we're just going to have to see what happens. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
I really don't know how I feel on that one, to be honest. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
While Australia's lifestyle's been everything Hayley had hoped for, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
the financial side of things have given pause for thought. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And there's still the emotional cost of emigrating to confront. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Knowing they could be about to face the toughest hurdle of all, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
the family sit down together to watch messages from loved ones. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
Are we going to watch some videos, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
some messages from back home, then? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
-Yeah? -OK. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
-Hello. -Hi, guys. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
Hi, guys. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
-Hello! -Hi! | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
Phil is the quiet one of the family. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
-Yeah. -If we have a family gathering, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Phil will probably be the one | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
sitting and watching what is going on. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
Amy, ah, she's, well, she's just so good. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
Lewis is very intelligent. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
Yes, I was thinking that, actually. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
-I was thinking that. -You always say that. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Hayley probably does feel like | 0:36:57 | 0:36:58 | |
she's missed out on a little bit of life for herself. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
I think this is where this Australian thing | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
has actually come from recently. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
She's kind of realised, "I can achieve more. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
"I can do more with my life." | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
I worry about the kids as well, are they going to miss us? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
-I'd be upset. -Yeah. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
-We'll miss him. -I'll feel sad on the playground not seeing Lewis. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
Just to see them perhaps a couple of times a year, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
it'd be completely different, wouldn't it? | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
Massively different. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
For my mum, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
unfortunately, she can't be here today because she's not very well, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
it would actually destroy her. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
We would all miss that bubble, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
we would miss all that lovely bubbly joy about, you know. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
We hope you've got to see a lot of things, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
and you've got the opportunity | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
to think about something and come back to make a big decision. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
And, obviously, we'll support you, whatever you do. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
-ALL: -Goodbye... -Everybody! | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
I hope you've gone out there, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
and you've got the information that you need | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
to make the decision for all of you, really, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
on what's best for you as a family. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
We'll always be here to support you, no matter what. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
None of the family wants you to go, but, myself, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
I will respect your decision at the end of the day. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
You can always come back any time you want, you know that. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
And there'll always be a home here for you. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Seeing the videos, the friends and family videos, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
it's going to put another spin on it. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
-SOBS: -It means I won't see Gran. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
And I haven't seen her in a while. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
You're missing them already while we've been over here, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
Grandma and Grandad? Yeah? | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
We see them regularly, a lot. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
And she plays a big part in our lives. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
-SOBS: -I don't want to cry. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Come here. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
At the end of the day, Grandma will want what's best for us. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
And if we... I know she would. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
The past few days have shown Hayley | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
the benefits of living in a warmer climate, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
AND shone a light on the financial and emotional price | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
of pursuing a new life down under. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
So as the final vote approaches, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
will the Hoopers agree or disagree about where their future lies? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:27 | |
The trial week has left Hayley in no doubt | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Australia could make a huge difference. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
Like I've got a place again. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
Like I'm me again. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
Like I'm a mum again. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
And I think the kids have noticed it. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
She's been quite good, hasn't she? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Yeah, she's been a lot better than she usually has. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
I know, I'm pretty sure Phil's noticed it. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
It's been brilliant to see the way she's been this week, you know, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
running about with the kids. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
Something I've not seen for a long time. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
I don't want to leave! | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
Emigrating might improve the family's future, but at a cost. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
There's lots of great things, but there's still things that worry me. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
-Dad's a bit... -Unsure... | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
..the work. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
And I think they're both a bit anxious if we did move over, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
how we'd be able to deal with the finances | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
because I've heard that they're not too great. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
Though it's not just money problems on Phil's mind. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
Amy getting upset really did it for me. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
I do feel a massive sense of guilt | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
of dragging her away from everything that she knows. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
Amy has been saying, like, it's going to be really hard. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
And I now can see why, because, after watching that video, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
-it did really bring it home. -It made me feel really sad and upset, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
and I don't want to leave all my friends and family behind. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Hayley knows how much messages from home have impacted on everyone. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
Until they'd seen their friends and family, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
I think they probably would have voted Australia. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
But I don't know now. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:51 | |
We just can't really make our mind up. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
Yeah, it's either England or Australia... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
..and it's really tricky to decide, isn't it? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
I feel probably more mixed up now than I did before we started. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
I hope, yeah, that we do make the right decision... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
..and, together as a family, we do what's right for us. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Yeah, and live happy. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
It'll be an interesting vote to see where everyone's heart lies now. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
It's time for the family to decide | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
on which side of the world their future rests. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
Based on this week's discoveries, we will be voting for... | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
-FAMILY: -Undecided. -Australia. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
HAYLEY LAUGHS | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
I'm not exceptionally shocked. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
There's a bit of me that is a bit disappointed | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
that nobody else went for the full Australia. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
I think me and Amy would have probably shown | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
the UK flag at the start. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
So we've kind of edged towards Australia. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
I know the friends and family all really affected, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
well, affected you two. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
After hearing that the finances aren't the greatest, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
and it would be only once in every few years | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
we'd actually be able to go see them, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
it has got me a bit worried that I might get a bit homesick. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
It's really nice here, and I would like to live here. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
-But... -You don't want to have to give up your friends and family | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
-to come here. -We'll really miss them. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
OK. Well, again, you know, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
it's stuff that we have to think about | 0:42:40 | 0:42:41 | |
and put them into the equation. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
'For us as a family unit, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
'I still think that we would be better off here in the long term.' | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
It's not a no, it's just a | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
"I still need that little bit of reassurance." | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
Hayley may be convinced of Australia's appeal, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
but, unfortunately, the rest of the family don't share | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
her enthusiasm for making the move. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
With more talking to be done, however, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
Hayley's dream could still come true. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
Wherever the family go on to call home, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
we wish them all a very happy future. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 |