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The Kelly family want a new life in New Zealand. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
We really do need to think about doing it now | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
before everything becomes just a bit too much, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
I think, to take on. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
Taking life a little bit slower and having a little bit more fun. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
And they've got the money to afford it. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
-Look at the view, Josh! -I can really see ourselves living here. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
I wouldn't buy this house. I'm not taken by it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
-You've got your dishwasher! -HE LAUGHS | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
You're my dishwasher, that's fine! | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
But with a loving family back home willing them to stay... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
I can't lie to them and say I'm happy. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
I don't want them to go, you know? | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
That's it... That's the way it is and it's just... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
You've just got to live with it, haven't you? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
To let them go and have their own lives and be happy. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
This could be a battle of heart versus head. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
If we moved over here and I started a business, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
it certainly looks promising. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
Really disappointing, yeah. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Voted one of the best places in the world to bring up a family, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
it's not hard to understand why almost 9,000 UK residents | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
make the move to New Zealand every year. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Add to that its outstanding natural beauty and temperate climate | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
and it's no wonder it's such a desirable destination | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
for those seeking a better life. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
The Kelly family from Aberdeen love the outdoor life | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
they have in the Scottish Granite City | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
and now wonder whether New Zealand could offer such | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
a lifestyle all year round. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Across one week, they'll get to see the sort of life they could lead | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
and afford if they relocated down under, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
before voting on whether to make the move. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
The Kellys' journey to New Zealand has taken three flights | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
and almost as many days in the air. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
We left on Sunday. It's now Tuesday? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
-Tuesday. -We've somehow lost 30-something hours, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
but the kids were brilliant. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
It's never easy travelling that far, but... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
Long, but happy to be here. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
Both Hollie and Gilan have made the trip before, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
but this time it's very different. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
The last time we were in New Zealand it was just the two of us, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
no children, no baggage. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
I think there was probably a bit of nerves as we flew in, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
seeing all these houses and looking at them very differently to the last | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
few times we've flown into New Zealand, as well. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
We both see ourselves living here | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
and I suppose it's nerve-racking because | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
if we really like it, it might mean uprooting, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
which is the nerve-racking part, the scary part, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
but it's also very exciting. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
Yeah, just really excited to see what the week holds. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
The family set off on a journey which could decide on which side of | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
the world their future lies. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
Meet the Kellys. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
They are dad Gilan, mum Hollie and children Harris, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
Joshua and much-loved family pet Honey. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
On the face of it, they want for nothing at all - | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
a nice big house, a successful outdoor adventure business | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
-and an especially loving extended family. -We do have a good life. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
100%. We've a great life. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Fantastic kids, great house, nice area, really successful businesses. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
Now in their late 20s, however, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
they're asking themselves whether they're living to work or working to live. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
We've both thought about New Zealand considerably | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
for a number of years. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
It's not something that's just crept up suddenly. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
It's always been in the back of our minds that maybe one day | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
we would have a better work-life balance so we can spend a little | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
more time with each other and the kids. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
I think we're probably victims of our own success a bit | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
in that we've just, over the last five years, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
taken more and more and more on and, before we know it, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
we're now at this point where it's completely unsustainable | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
if we want to actually spend time with the children | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
and grow the businesses. That can't happen. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Taking life a little bit slower and having a little bit more fun. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
Together, they've decided that New Zealand could be the answer. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
We do lots of things with the kids. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
99% of the time it's outside. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Being able to kind of have the flexibility to be spontaneous | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
and go out and go to the beach when it's nice weather | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
and have that flexibility, that's a really big draw, isn't it? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Yeah, huge. With New Zealand, well, with the climate the way it is, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
you get seasons, which is fantastic. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
We love the idea of having a harsh winter along with a lovely summer, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
whereas you never know in Scotland what you're going to get, you know? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
It could be just rain every day of the week for six months. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-12 months of grey. -Yeah, absolutely. -Yeah. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
But with the children reaching a crucial age | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
and baby three on the way, time is of the essence. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Now is the right time I think for us, because you know, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
the kids are starting to grow up. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
I'd be really concerned about leaving it ten years and then having | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
children who are really embedded in the community | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
and have lots of friends and play in the teams | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
and whatever else they get up to. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
I think with baby number three, as well, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
it's only going to get more difficult, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
so we really do need to think about doing it now before everything | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
becomes just a bit too much, I think, to take on. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
So what is holding them back? | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Well, family of course. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
In particular, Gilan's dad, who he has recently got back in touch with. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
In the last couple of years I've just recently got back in touch | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
with my dad, so, no, it's been really nice rekindling | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
that relationship that was never really there from a younger age. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
That worries me a little bit, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
that maybe he doesn't realise quite what he could be missing out on | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
because he hasn't had it, so he doesn't necessarily attach the same | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
-value to it, so... -The realisation now that, you know, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
it's potentially going to happen could just be hitting home. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
With Hollie, meanwhile, with her only brother already emigrated, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
it's Mum who'd be left behind. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
She brought the both of us up as a single parent, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
so I have a really close relationship to her | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
and so do our kids, as well. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
So it would be really, really difficult | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
leaving her and feeling like we'd both kind of abandoned her | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
to the other side of the world. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
It's causing us to, I think, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
maybe pause a bit more than we had ever thought we would, actually. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
What's certain is that in the trial week ahead, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
they'll both have to like what they see to make the move. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
-Maybe. -I can't see either one of us forcing the other to go for it. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Do you know, that's really funny? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
-I was going to say the opposite! -You were going to say the opposite? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
I was going to say, but for the same reasons, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
-I was going to say we are really supportive of each other. -Yeah. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
And, actually, like, if you really wanted to do it and I was | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
on the fence, I would do it anyway. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Like, what's the worst that can happen? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
We're just going to go there and actually decide that I was right all | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
-along and come home. -Yeah, the worst thing that could | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
happen is that I was wrong and then that's bad. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
The Kellys are spending their week in Karori. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
It may be one of Wellington's oldest suburbs. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
And, as they unpack, they get the chance to talk about their first | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
impressions of the area they'll be spending their week. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
The drive up here was really pretty, really breathtaking. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
The house itself probably isn't very practical, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
it's not what we would look for in a family home. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Different levels, I think that would be a problem for us with the kids, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
but, again, the views and where it's located are just gorgeous. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Really, really nice. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
And it seems they've come prepared. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
We've done our research, obviously, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
and had a look around the area around Wellington, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
know where all the schools are and all the good suburbs, so, yeah, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
it will be really interesting to see if we view anything | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
relevant to what I think we should be looking at. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
-I'm looking forward to it. -Yeah. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Yeah, I'm really looking forward, yeah. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
I don't think we're hard to please. We don't have a massive list. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
It's just that there are some non-negotiables, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
which are outside space and a family | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
friendly inner suburb that has a good school. That's it. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
The week ahead will have to deliver if the couple's dream | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
of a fresh start down under is to become a reality. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
Back in the UK, the Kellys currently have the best of both worlds. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
So we live in a small, kind of rural village just now, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
not too far from the city and that's | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
definitely something that's important | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
if we made the move to New Zealand. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Having recently sold their family home, they are currently, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and very happily, renting. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
The house that we're in is absolutely fantastic. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-Yeah, it's really nice. -Lots of space, just exactly what we need. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
I like the rural feel. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
We like having the space. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Yeah, a great family home, so that's something that we | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
definitely would look to emulate when we're | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
out in New Zealand. We need a decent number of rooms as well, actually, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
because, obviously, moving away, we need the ability | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
to have family come and stay. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
And while size definitely matters for them, they're not too fussy. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Really neither of us get the big fuss about, "Oh, my goodness, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
"look at the decor or look at those floors." | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
We're not bothered at all by | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-the walk-in wardrobes or... -His and her sinks. -..his and hers sinks | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
or any of that kind of rubbish. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
But one thing is essential - for Gilan at least. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Yeah, oh! | 0:09:27 | 0:09:28 | |
-Yeah. -Absolutely, yeah. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
A garage, yeah, that's it. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
And their budget for all this? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
A budget of round about £400,000, but you never know, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
we could go above if we find our dream home. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-Yeah. -And just change the way, juggle the way that we do things. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Hm-hm. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
To find out what this might get them on the Wellington property market, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
we'll show them three houses - | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
two on budget and a third which could be their dream home. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
The search begins in the suburb of Whitby, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
just a 20-minute drive north of Wellington. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
With great schools and a strong community spirit, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
it's got that family-friendly feel they're after. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
But will this three-bedroom family home be fit for purpose? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
It's got a big driveway. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Oh, this is perfect. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Well, it's a thumbs up on first impressions. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Lots of big family houses so that's nice. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
And really nice quiet street so that's really positive too. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Definitely, the house looks really nice. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
Really big from the outside, so excited. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Inside, meanwhile, continues to impress. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Wow, look at this. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Wow. This looks really big. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Yes. Nice new carpets, quite like neutral. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
And the main family dining area seems to have the wow factor, too. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
Wow, this is nice, isn't it? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Oh, wow. Look at the views, Josh. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
-Huge room, this is. -Time to check out the kitchen. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Let's have a look at this. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Ooh, all integrated appliances as well, that's quite good. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-Got your dishwasher. -HE LAUGHS | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-You're my dishwasher! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
What a cheek! | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
There might even be room for a new addition to the family. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
-Who would use that door, Joshy? -A pussycat. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Yeah. Ooh. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Well, so far so good seems to be the verdict. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:23 | |
Until... | 0:11:23 | 0:11:24 | |
What's here, Joshy? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
It's a bedroom. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
Master bedroom. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Oh, with an en-suite. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-Decoration is a bit interesting. -THEY LAUGH | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
Salmon pink. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
A bit dated, you'd want to change that I think. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
-Definitely. -It's OK, I wouldn't buy this house. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
I'm not taken by it, it's not really doing anything for me. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
It's not for us. I don't think I'd buy it. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Well, that went downhill quickly. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
Time to leave the children with a child-minder | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
so Gilan and Hollie can take a closer look. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
But the bathroom doesn't improve things. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
-That's gone. -THEY LAUGH | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
-I couldn't agree more. -It's pink. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-I'm sure somebody would like a pink tiled bath but... -Not us. -..not me. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-No. -THEY LAUGH | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
And the lack of space for visitors makes matters worse. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
I think it's a non-negotiable, isn't it? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Having space for relatives to come and stay. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
If we're moving out here we need space for family and friends | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
-to come and stay. -At least there's | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
something to put a smile on Gilan's face. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
-Good-sized garage. -I'm not going to argue with the garage space, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
this is really good. This is exactly what a man needs. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
-I would never see you again. -No, not at all. Absolutely. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
The garage space is perfect. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
But outside, well, it's just not what the Kellys want. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Oh, it's not very private at all, look. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
-True. -Yeah, really overlooked. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
-And not as big as it looks. -No. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
I'd want something a bit bigger | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
for the boys to run around and roll about on. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Yeah, a little bit more privacy as well. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
This garden's a bit overlooked. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
Despite some pleasing elements, overall, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
this property has failed to live up to the Kellys' hopes for a Kiwi home. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
But if the asking price is under their £400,000 budget, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
will it make a difference? | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
I definitely think it's at the lower end of our budget or just below. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
I think this house is probably on | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
the market for about £375,000. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
£395,000. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
-OK, let's have a look. You can do it. -OK. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
-£370,000. -I think that's right where we thought it would be. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
It's definitely a good sign, given | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
that it's less than our lower end of the budget, which is good. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
And way below the top end of the budget. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
And way below the top end of the budget. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
-On to property number two, I think. -Cool. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Not exactly the best of starts. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Let's hope property number two can get things back on track. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
It's in Aotea, also just a short commute to Wellington. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
This suburb on the Kapiti Coast is fast becoming a place | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
where work and home life balance come hand-in-hand. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
Boasting five bedrooms and three bathrooms, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
this modern family home should offer all the space the couple need. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
And even on the drive up, it is positive vibes. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Big driveway. Room for a couple of cars. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
I'm really excited about this one. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Much more positive feel about this one. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
-Yeah. -Time to get inside. -This is much nicer. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
At least it's not that pink, thank goodness! | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-I like this. -It's nice open-plan. -Oh, yes. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
This is exactly the type of space we're looking for. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Yeah, much better. And modern, isn't it? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Really clean. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
Yeah, really nice. Nice kitchen, really nice, light and airy. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Really well decorated as well. Can really see ourselves living here. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
-You could just move straight in, couldn't you? -Yeah. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
Looks like quite nice views as well. I think the views are going to be really nice upstairs. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
Absolutely, can't wait to see up there. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
On to the downstairs bedroom and Hollie is already thinking about | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
converting it into something this | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
business-minded pair definitely need. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Oh, a nice, light room. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
-Really nice. -It's screaming out to me, office, actually. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
Because it is tucked out of the way, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
but not so out of the way you couldn't hear the kids playing. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
That's true. Without seeing the rest of the house, actually, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
it kind of makes sense. You've got a nice view at the side there as well. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
As with best laid plans, however... | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
-THEY LAUGH -OK, no. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Maybe this will be the office. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Maybe this'll be the office, actually, yeah. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Upstairs and the main bedroom seems to have exactly what a girl wants. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
Let's see. I'm guessing this is the master bedroom. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -A big wardrobe. There you go, that's you happy. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
Somewhere to hang up all your clothes. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
-Cool. -This is nice, though. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
-Good to have an en-suite. -Yeah, always good to have an en-suite. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
So, how are the rest of the family going to keep clean? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
Oh, this is nice. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
It's a family bathroom. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Nice space. No bath, though. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
Well, it's big enough to be able to have a bath. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Even if you have a bath with an over-shower, that will be fine. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
Everything you can ask for in a bathroom. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
-Apart from a bath. -Apart from a bath. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Cool. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
With an ever-expanding family, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
this five bedroom property seems to have the sort of space | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
the Kellys are looking for. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
But a quick detour into what they hope might be a spare bedroom, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
instead unveils a very disappointing view. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
Outside. I think, maybe, the neighbours look onto the garden. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
That could be a bit of an issue. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
The garden doesn't seem to be very big. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-It's tiny. -Not as much as we'd expect. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
So disappointing, though, isn't it? | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
Because the house is absolutely gorgeous. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
-It's perfect. -So it's got the indoor space they wanted, but falling short | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
on outdoor space for the children | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
has left the couple feeling disenchanted. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Really disappointing. Yeah. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Is it somewhere they could afford to live anyway? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Their budget is £400,000. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
So compared to the first house, this one's got to be | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
substantially more expensive. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
It's got to be a lot more expensive, definitely. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
So I think this one's going to be more like 480, 490. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
£490,000. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
I think this house will be around about £470,000. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
OK, let's find out. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
Oh. So £420,000. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-Wow. -I'm really shocked. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
I'm quite surprised, absolutely. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-Much cheaper than both of us thought. -Yeah. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Despite some positive reactions to this house, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
the couple still haven't found what they're looking for | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
and there's just one property to go. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
The final stop of the day is the coastal suburb of Parramatta - | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
an established neighbourhood with outstanding views alongside great | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
transport links and excellent schools, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
it could prove the ideal location. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
But will this four-bedroom family home | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
have the space both inside and out | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
the couple are desperate for? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
-Steep driveway. -HE LAUGHS | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
It might just be an uphill struggle | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
if Hollie's initial reactions are anything to go by. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
I feel really bad. I'm not feeling this. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Really? I wanted, like, country space. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Let's hope things improve indoors. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-JOSH MUMBLES -Look at the view. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Joshua, look at the view. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
That's an incredibly nice view from a living room, isn't it, Josh? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
I love the view. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Encouraging, but appearances can be deceptive. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
If I'm being totally honest, I'm really disappointed. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
I wanted to be out, I don't know, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
out in the country a bit more, I think. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
Gilan, on the other hand, seems more positive. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
It's a nice view of the front and | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
there is a really nice view at the back. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
You wouldn't mind washing the dishes at this sink. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
The main bedroom, meanwhile, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
provides more of those incredible views. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
It's really nice and big. I thought the views were good downstairs. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Gorgeous. You can see right along the coast. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
And a little balcony, look. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Wow. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Could Hollie be starting to come round? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
This room alone is really gorgeous. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
I think it's going to have a big price tag with it. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Mm, maybe. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
The bathroom is...cosy. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
It's quite a small bathroom for such a big house, isn't it? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
There's not a lot of room to get them in and out of the bath and dry. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
But it does have a bath. It's more than the last house had. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
So, does this house have the sort of outside space the Kellys want? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
-Look at the view, Josh. -Can you see that? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
It's not a small garden, it's not like a teeny, tiny garden. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
It's just that...some of the properties we've seen online | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
before have had a lot more space than this. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
All of which is producing seriously mixed feelings. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
I think I'm feeling really torn after this house. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
-Torn? -Yes. -It seems a bit of a waste having such a beautiful house | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
in a beautiful spot with, you know, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
everybody looking in your kitchen window. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
I'm pretty sure it's going to be top of our budget...if not above. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
So, should we turn it over? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
-Yeah, let's do it. -The couple are | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
torn on this house, but if the price falls | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
on the right side of their £400,000 budget, could they be swayed? | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Price is, £470,000. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
-Oh. -Oh. -Still don't want to buy it. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
I think, if anything, it just shows us that the house with the view and | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
the size of a house that's here is | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
sometimes a little bit cheaper than even back home. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-We know what we're looking for is definitely going to be attainable. -Definitely. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Even though the price didn't put them off, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
the couple are still holding out for the perfect outdoor space. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
It's been a mixed bag of a day on the property friend. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
House one was positively pink | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and didn't have the visitors space Gilan and Hollie need. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
And while the garage was generous, the garden was not what they wanted. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
Modern styling in the spacious second home impressed | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
and although there was no bath | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
and the closeness of neighbours was a concern, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
would a lower-than-expected price give pause for thought? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Thee views and garden of property three won Gilan over and the indoor | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
space impressed Hollie. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
But were they won over by the location? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
So based on everything they've seen, how will the couple vote | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
when it comes to choosing between property | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
in New Zealand and the UK? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Despite seeing the three houses, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
I don't think any of them were really suitable for us today. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
I do think the right property is out there for us | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
within our budget with the extra outside space. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
We just haven't found it yet. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
So based on that I guess we'll vote. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
-BOTH: -New Zealand. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
I think we can definitely get a property we are looking for here. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-Yes. Within budget. -Yeah, within budget. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
We just need to look a little bit further out. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
Still convinced they could eventually get their dream home | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
in New Zealand within budget, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
the week has got off to a positive start. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
But for a permanent move to become a reality, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
securing well-paid work down under will be key. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
Back in the UK, Gilan and Hollie run a paintball adventure business. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
It's something Gilan is very proud of as he's built it from scratch. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
We run a few different businesses, actually, just now in the UK. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
One of those is an outdoor adventure activity site and over the last | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
couple of years we've also gotten into escape games. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
So, essentially, locking people in a room filled with | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
puzzles and challenging them to try to and escape | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
with 60 minutes on the clock. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
I think if we move to New Zealand we would look to leave our adventure | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
activity business here with a manager. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
That would free up a lot of our time, allow us to spend more | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
time with the family. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
And if we decided to open more businesses in New Zealand | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
then we could choose what we decided to do. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
While Hollie has, in recent years, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
taken a hands-on role with the business, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
her training as an environmental consultant | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
is something she might like to pursue further. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Plan B would definitely focus on me going back into my career path and | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
probably supporting the family until we found a niche kind of business | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
model Gilan was comfortable starting. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
Both feel, however, that New Zealand is the perfect place to follow their | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
-career dreams. -Exciting, really exciting time and an interesting | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
potential change for us. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Completely different change for us. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
Today, the couple set out to discover what opportunities might | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
exist for them in New Zealand. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
First, Hollie meets Doctor Julie Hall from one of New Zealand's | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
leading natural resources companies. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
So it's a pretty broad job market for environmental scientists. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
We are very open and we have brought in a significant number of people | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
from overseas. So we have a very multinational workforce. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
So far so good, but what about the money? | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
We'd be looking at somewhere, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
65,000 to 70,000 New Zealand dollars. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
So £36,000 to £40,000 a year for a full-time position. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
That's really interesting to know, actually, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
because that pretty much matches identically | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
to what I would expect to earn in the UK. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
And now - the key question. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
One thing that staff really appreciate here is flexibility. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
So being able to start early, finish early, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
balancing off dropping kids off, picking them up. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
I think that's really important to people. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
All sounds promising. But what about Gilan? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
We've arranged for him to meet Rob Lawson who runs | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
a busy freight and warehousing business | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
covering the lower North Island. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Not only did he start the business from scratch, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
but he did it after moving here from Scotland many years ago. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
I wanted to start up myself and I thought, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
I'll start up this scheme I'm doing now, the furniture removal. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
I thought I'd do that for a few weeks, just part-time, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
driving a bit in the van with me and a young lad helping me out. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
And now I employ 23 people and have seven vehicles | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
and a warehouse, do a bit of storage and stuff like that. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
It's just grown. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
I didn't intend doing it more than six months and it's 26 years now. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
A role model indeed, but what advice | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
can he give Gilan about acclimatising? | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
When you initially get here, it seems like it's just the same as the | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
UK, but there's a lot of subtle differences | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
that kind of creep up on you. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Even the mannerisms of the people, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
the Kiwi outlook tends to be a bit more relaxed. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
You kind of soak it up the longer you are here. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
They're a pretty decent bunch of people. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
And a nice society to work in. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
If Gilan does make the move, he'd want to continue his adventure | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
business empire. So he's keen to know more about what sort of market | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
-he'll be entering. -The Maori have a lot of say | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
in how you run things here, which is quite right, too. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
-They were the indigenous people, they were first here. -Of course. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
It's of great interest to people who come from Europe or the States | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
or anywhere like that. It's a wonderful selling point, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
it's certainly something you should embrace. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
And can you get the staff? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
Unemployment is very low in New Zealand at the moment. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
So getting qualified staff in any particular skill | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
can be quite difficult. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
It's very much a buyers market from an employee's perspective. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
You might want to take that into account. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
Here in New Zealand, people tend to spend a lot of time obviously | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
outdoors. Do you find there are any problems when it comes to asking | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
-staff to work at the weekends? -Only in relation to sport. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
A lot of these guys like to play rugby. Rugby is a huge thing here. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Yeah, the sport can sometimes, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
sometimes interfere with your employment plans. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
Yeah. He's a really interesting guy. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Obviously, he has a very successful business and | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
started himself from nothing and worked his way up. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
So that in itself is quite encouraging. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Hearing from an expat has obviously helped, so time for Hollie | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
to meet one of her own. Jim Roberts works in the Fisheries Department. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
I was just finishing up with a PhD at Imperial College in London and | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
someone told me there was a job going here at NIWA. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
So I figured I'd be mad not to apply for it. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
And it's just not environmental science they've got in common. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
Jim also is about to be a parent. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
I suppose what I really love about New Zealand is their connection with | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
the outdoors. With that connection to the nature and the environment is | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
really strong and it is an important part of the New Zealand identity. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
But what about the practicalities? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
My advice is, if you've got anything that's going to be difficult to deal | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
with when you're going for a residency visa | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
or something like that, grab as much paperwork as you can | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
before you go out of the door, because | 0:28:38 | 0:28:39 | |
-you're probably going to need it. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Doesn't seem to be all that different between the UK | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
and New Zealand in terms of prospects for careers. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
And wages are really, really similar as well. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Time now, however, for Hollie and Gilan to talk about their day. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
-How was your day? -Good, yeah. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
-How was your morning? -It was good, yeah. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Any surprises? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
I'd like to say yes, but there weren't. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
-That's good though. -It's a good thing. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
If we moved over here and I started a business, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
it certainly looks promising. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
My afternoon was pretty much the same, so no real surprises. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
Prospect-wise, salary, all exactly as we'd sort of envisaged. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
-That's really good. -Yeah, no real surprises. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
-Yeah. Shall we have a vote? -Let's do it. -Sounds great, come on. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
-Let's go. -I think I know which way this might go. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
Based on what we've heard today, our vote goes to... | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
-New Zealand. -Undecided. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
Oh! A bit of a surprise from Hollie. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
I feel quite confident in the business sector here. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
So I voted undecided just because I | 0:29:46 | 0:29:47 | |
don't feel like I really learnt anything new today. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
So after speaking to the gentleman today I strongly believe that | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
one of our businesses in particular would work very well here. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
As they enter into the second half of their trial week, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
it feels like there's some work to do if Gilan and Hollie are to be | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
convinced that a move to New Zealand is going to be worth it. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Will a day sampling the active outdoor lifestyle | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
they love so much help with their decision? | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
The Kellys are a self-professed outdoorsy family, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
so what better way to spend the day than on a bike? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Electric style, that is. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Tour guide Ryan, leads the way. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
The only way to travel. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
As super dad flies along the cycle path, the family take in the sights. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
Time to refuel after all that exercise. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
I'm ready. Did you enjoy that? Yeah. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
And there is a nice treat in store. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
-Gilan's dad phones from Scotland. -Hello. Is that Joshy? | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
-Is Joshy there? -Yeah, Joshy, say hi. -Hi. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
HE MUMBLES | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
-You're having lunch? -Mm-hm. -I'm sat in front of the coal fire | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
crackling away just thinking about yous down there in New Zealand. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
Have you learnt anything about moving over? | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Yeah, it's been a good eye-opener. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
We've been to see a good range of properties and the houses | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
we went to see weren't what we were looking for. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
We'll make sure we send you lots of pictures. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
I can't wake until you come back. I've missed you already. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:34 | |
I know, it's kind of weird like that, isn't it? | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
But I suppose it's the distance that does that, isn't it? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
When you're just up the road you | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
think, "It's not a big deal, you can just nip up." | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
A bit further away you kind of think, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
"I can't just go and nip up the road." | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
-Say love you lots to Grandpa George. -Love you lots. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
-Love you more! Love you more. -No, you don't, I love you more. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
I love you 100! | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
Aw, well that was nice. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
So what are their thoughts halfway through the week? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
So far, we've really enjoyed it. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
The people here are really friendly, really nice. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
When you are here and you are having nice family time, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
we don't get much time off so any time off we do have | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
we do tend to try and spend it with friends and family. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
So I guess it does make you reflect | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
that it would be nice to have them here. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Not having the rest of the family to come and enjoy days some days out, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
but they'll be able to come and visit. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
We'd be able to make the most of that time. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
So based on today, will they vote | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
for lifestyle in New Zealand or the UK? | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
-BOTH: -New Zealand. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
So I voted for New Zealand because of days just like today, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
we love getting out with the kids. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Weather-wise, we're going to have much more opportunities | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
to have days out like that with the kids. And that's really important. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
It's nice just to be able to pick up and go. Create more opportunities | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
and hopefully get the boys out and | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
it's the things we like doing the most, so... | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
With another vote for New Zealand, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
a permanent move to the other side of the world | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
looks like it could become a reality for the Kelly family. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
But only if the finances add up. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
It's time to find out how the cost of living down under | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
-compares with the UK. -It'll be super exciting seeing all the numbers, won't it? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
I know. I'm not sure how it's going to go, but we'll see. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
And they start with the weekly shop. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
Anything that's in red is less expensive, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
everything in black is more expensive. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
-Cool. -Porridge, onions, peas... | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
Basically, all the fruit. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
Having a quick scan down. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
There's only a few items that are less expensive. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
Like, all the fresh fruit and veg and stuff - | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
all more expensive. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
So, shall we add up all of these totals and see what it's going to be | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
-difference-wise? -Do you want to do the calculations? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
-Go for it. -There you go. -We will do this. -556. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
-Yes. -225. 310. 254. 197. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:21 | |
254. 789. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
-What was that for? -Chicken breasts. -OK. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
That's quite a big difference. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:29 | |
So works out to be per month - | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
difference of about £101.40p. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
Over a whole year, £1216.80p. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
So bigger bills for food in New Zealand. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
But what about the other costs? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
Mortgage, pretty much the same. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
Council tax, a pound difference. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
So, negligible. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:57 | |
-Yes. Not much difference. -Electricity is quite a bit cheaper. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
-Quite a lot cheaper, actually. -Half the cost. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
Yep. Mobile phones are much more expensive, so, like... | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
-Oh, yeah, massively more expensive. -Yeah, triple the price. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
Yeah. Transport costs - a little bit cheaper here. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
Car insurance and MOT, both cheaper here. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Home insurance, half the price. And children's nursery, oh, my gosh. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
Children's nursery is massive, look at that! | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
So, £1,400 per month is what we | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
spend on the boys being in nursery for three days, roughly. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:28 | |
-And that would only be £600 here. -That's just incredible. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
-I can't believe that difference. -We're getting ripped off! -Yeah! | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
You're not wrong! | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
So, total outgoings... | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
So, let's see what the difference is, then. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
So, it's a difference of £1,419 per month | 0:35:41 | 0:35:48 | |
better off in New Zealand. That sounds crazy. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-I don't know how that's possible. -It's just the childcare! | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
-It's the childcare! -It actually is! -Yeah. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
-I wasn't expecting that. -I wasn't expecting that at all. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
Substantially lower childcare costs will help offset some of the higher | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
prices Hollie and Gilan expect to pay for the other bills. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
So, how does it all add up? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
So, per month, taking into account our salaries, our outgoings, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
our big bills, our leisure, our food, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
we would in New Zealand be better | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
off, to the tune of £1,298 per month. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
-That's a massive figure. -Yeah. -And it just gets better. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
Gilan would continue to draw an income from his UK businesses, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
and if Hollie was to get a job, she'd be earning too. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
So, where does that leave them overall? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
I think it's hard not to be | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
satisfied with those kind of numbers. It's really, quite... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
A lot more than... You know, the savings are a lot more than we | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
thought they would be. So, it's really reassuring. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
A saving of over 12...well, £1,300 a month is massive. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
That's, erm... Yeah, I don't know what we would do with that. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
-Yeah, absolutely! Well, I do. -Well, yeah, you would buy a boat. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
-Yeah, probably! -Yeah! -THEY LAUGH | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
Yeah, at least we'd have plenty | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
of money to maybe look at a larger house that | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
could incorporate more grandparents visiting. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -The favourable figures are opening up options. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
But how will Gilan and Hollie balance their decision? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
-BOTH: -New Zealand. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
I think just based on £1,300 a month, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
that's such a huge amount of money to save. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
Yeah, you just can't ignore the figures, really, can you? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
It's an incredible amount of money. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
While Joshua and Harris take a nap, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Hollie and Gilan sit down together | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
to watch a DVD from loved ones back home. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-So, are you ready? -Ready as I'll ever be. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
I'm not looking forward to seeing anybody upset. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Definitely not. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
Hi, Gilan, Hollie, Joshua and Harris. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
-Hi, Hollie. -Hi, Josh! | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
As a family, they're brilliant. They're brilliant to their kids, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Josh and Harris are just so blessed to have them. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
I see them together sometimes and I just think, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
that's the way a family should be. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
They just are a wee team, even the kids. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
They're so, so together, it's fantastic. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
And the two wee ones, well, they're just absolutely gorgeous. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
Love them to bits! | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
Gilan's honest, hard-working, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
a really straight down the middle guy, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
you kind of know where you stand with him. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
I've never seen him once come in when he's sad, angry. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
He's always been happy, really sort of excited for the day to happen. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
So, he's just a cracking lad. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
Hollie's just the sort of friend that no matter what's going on in my | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
life, erm, I want her there with me. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
She's just so supportive, and... | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
And yes, she's just really good fun as well. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
-How much did they pay them?! -THEY LAUGH | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
Josh and, er, Harris are two... | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
two lively characters, we love them dearly. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Because of the nature of Hollie and Gilan's busy schedule, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
we see a lot of them, and... | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
-which is great. -When they first told me about | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
the idea of going to New Zealand, it was a bit of a shock. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
Because we were still in that process of still getting to know | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
each other, and especially with Harris coming along, the young one, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
I don't want to lose my grandkids | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
when I've just started to get to know them. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
-We'll miss that, too. -Yeah, we'll definitely miss that. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
-Josh will miss that. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Perhaps more for the grandchildren, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
the fact that they wouldn't all get together again. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
But that's the way it is, and it's just... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
You've just got to live with it, haven't you? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
To let them go and have their own lives and be happy. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
Yeah, we kind of hope you'll stay. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
But if you do decide to go, it'll be... | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
it'll be really, really fun and we will visit. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
-But we'll miss you lots. -And I'll miss you so much. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
I love you immensely. And, erm... | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
But I trust you immensely. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
And I know that you'll do what's right for you guys as a family. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
If we did move away, we would make the time for the family | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
and make sure that it would be part of our lives, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
-to make sure that they were coming to visit or vice versa. -Oh, yeah. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
At the beginning of their trial week, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
the Kellys wanted to know if New Zealand could match | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
and even better the sort of life | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
they had grown accustomed to in the UK. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
As they approach the final vote, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
we're about to discover if the Aberdeen couple | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
have decided do or don't to a move. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
What would you do if you were them? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
-OK! -When the Kellys started out their week, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
they wanted to see that New Zealand could offer them a place where they | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
could grow their business, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
and offer them a better life with their young family. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
And it's come up trumps on that. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
The one thing that we don't get right in the UK is our balance, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
the time with the kids and work. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Really important that that day worked - and it definitely did. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Just being here I think with the family has been great. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
Sort of highlight of this week | 0:41:03 | 0:41:04 | |
so far is spending the day with the kids. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
It also turns out that they can afford it - and some. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
Moneywise, it would all stack up. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
That was a really pleasantly positive surprise. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
Having the financial burden off your shoulders, you know, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
helps with the decision-making. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
But they've discovered that this | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
move will affect more than just them. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
A little bit upsetting hearing friends and family upset. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
Especially, I suppose, on my dad's side. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
I've obviously not known that side of the family for very long, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
been out of touch for a very long time. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
So, yeah, that will probably be hard, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
knowing that we're potentially going to be moving away from that. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
Never nice to see anybody that you care about getting upset or talk | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
about not wanting you to leave. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:49 | |
But at the end of the day, we'll still visit the UK if we move, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
and they will most definitely visit here. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
And as the final decision approaches, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
it's all starting to become clear. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
Very nearly decided. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
I've got strong feelings about some things. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
And there are other things which | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
I think need a little bit more investigating as well. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
I'm quite set on where I'm going to go, yep. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
And what if one of them says no? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
No, he's not going to! | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
I don't think she is... | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Erm... But who knows? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
Well, then, only one way to find out. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
-BOTH: -New Zealand. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
New Zealand to you, Joshy? Yeah! | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
At least answered a lot of our questions, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
which gives me a lot of confidence, so overall, really happy. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
I feel the same. I think it was a | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
-pretty easy choice, being New Zealand. -Definitely. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
So, Gilan and Hollie have weighed up the heartbreak of saying goodbye | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
to loved ones against the benefits of moving to New Zealand, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
and decided that a new start for a family is best for them. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
Wellington is to be the new home for themselves and their boys, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
and we wish all four, soon-to-be five, the very best of luck. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 |