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Rossindra longs to live on the other side of the world. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
I've wanted New Zealand for so long, and all the points in my life, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
the big decisions I've made, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
kind of was aiming towards how we would get me to New Zealand. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
But her very British husband, Chris, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
is a lot less passionate about the move. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
To be honest, I can't see our lifestyle being very different | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
to what it is now. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Their differences have put them under pressure. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
So, for me, it is crunch time. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
I just hope Chris realises this. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
My concern is that she's chasing after a life, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
lifestyle that maybe isn't there any more. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
A trial week in New Zealand sees expectations fulfilled... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
The house ticks all the boxes and extra. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
..preconceived ideas challenged... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
This is the house I would move halfway across the world for. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
..and commitment questioned. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
I've got a bit of cold feet. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Yeah, I'll be honest, I'm a little bit afraid now. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
Stay in the UK or go down under? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
It's all to play for. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Famous the world over for its scenic diversity, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
New Zealand boasts spectacular geographic backdrops, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
from beaches to rainforests and active volcanoes. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
And now, after decades of immigration, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
its population is as diverse as the landscape in the country often | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
referred to as the Land of the Long White Cloud. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Chris and Rossindra Atkins | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
are a husband and wife with two very different personalities. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
She wants to throw caution to the wind and follow her wildest dreams. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
He believes that slow and steady wins the race. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Across one week, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
they'll put their approaches head to head as they see the sort of life | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
they could lead and afford if they relocated down under, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
before voting on where their future lies. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
After a marathon journey flying from London to Sydney, via Dubai, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
and then onto Wellington, the Atkins family arrive | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
at their final destination in surprisingly fine fettle. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
Flight was good. Piece of cake. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
The last 20 plus hours have been really fun. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
The kids have enjoyed it. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
I watched some movies, I saw loads of different countries. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:59 | |
Little Sarah isn't quite as impressed as Lucy, though. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
It was so boring that I had to wait all the time. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Rossindra's delighted to be a step closer to her dream. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
It's held its magic since 2000, when I first came here. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
So I do hope I fall back in love with New Zealand. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
But Chris is not committed just yet. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
A little apprehensive about the job interviews, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
and seeing what opportunities there might be for us. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
And if I'm suitably impressed, then I will be voting for New Zealand. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
If I'm not, I may be unsure. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
For now, at least, Rossindra's positively buzzing. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
Can't wait to go, let the magic begin. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
Let's hope the sun shines, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
as the family will need to soak up | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
as much as they can over the next seven days | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
before deciding on which side of the world their future lies. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
The Atkins family are Dad Chris, Mum Rossindra, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
Lucy, aged five, and Sarah, who's four. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
They live in the town of Bracknell, in South East England. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
Ever since the couple got together six years ago, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
talk of New Zealand has been a constant, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
sometimes sensitive subject. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Chris has known about my New Zealand dream since day one. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
Something she's been banging on about | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
ever since I've known her, really. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
It's a passion that all started when Rossindra, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
from an Indian community in the Malay Peninsula, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
visited New Zealand 17 years ago. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
Rose's dream is bordering on an obsession. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
My concern is she is chasing after a life, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
a lifestyle that maybe isn't there any more. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
It looks like there's tough discussions ahead for the couple. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Any discussion about kids, money, finances, where we live, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
I bring the New Zealand thing up. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
Because I feel like, "Why don't we give it a try?" | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
I do worry that she can be a little bit impulsive. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Perhaps I'm the sort of balance to that. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
And it's having two young daughters | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
that is driving Rossindra to make the move. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
I've always thought, if I had kids, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
I'd like to bring them up in New Zealand. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
I've grown up in Malaysia, where you're outside most of the time. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
You come back from school and, boom, you're outside. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Things are different over here. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
So, the answer for Rossindra is New Zealand. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
And the time to move is now. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
In a few years' time it will be harder to take the kids | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
out of school and move them down. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
So, for me, it is crunch time. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
And I just hope Chris realises this. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
Does Mummy want one? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
Yeah, I think I do take her seriously. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
And I've said I will look at the whole proposition, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
and if it's viable, then we can give it a go. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
But it looks like Chris is wearing his sensible hat. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
To be honest, I can't see our lifestyle being very different | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
to what it is now. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
I think she'll be surprised by the climate. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
The climate in New Zealand is very similar to how it is in the UK. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
So, Mum and Dad are on different pages. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
But are the girls singing from the same hymn sheet? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
I would miss my friends and all my teachers | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
and all my classmates. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
I'm going to miss David. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
The children are bouncing and Rossindra | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
is bursting with anticipation as the trial week approaches. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
-I hope the dream is still alive. -It hasn't become a nightmare. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
And things are as magical as they used to be when I first saw them. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
For Chris, however, it's all about the practicalities. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
The main thing that's got to be right about New Zealand is the work. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:55 | |
And getting the right opportunity for us to support the family. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
It's fair to say that, when it comes to the week ahead, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
the pressure is definitely on. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
I don't want to be here in Bracknell at 60 years of age, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
looking after my grandchild and thinking, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
sitting back and thinking, "Oh, geez, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
"I wonder what would have happened if we'd tried out New Zealand." | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
I don't want that to happen. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
Of course, there is always one other outcome. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
What if I'm the one who's inspired I say, "Yeah, let's go, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
"let's go tomorrow," | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
and now you don't want to go because you've seen what | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
-the weather's really like? -I'm a bit scared of that. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
For their trial week, the Atkins are staying north-east | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
of Wellington in the Upper Hutt region. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
By the time they arrive at their temporary accommodation, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
it's too late for tiny tots, so it's straight to bed. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Next morning, wide-eyed and bushy tailed, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
the family take in their new surroundings. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
I drew the curtains and it's absolutely beautiful. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
We were struck by the scenery, really. It really is beautiful around here. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
Despite having only been in the country a few hours, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
Rossindra's already imagining what life could be like here. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
I love it, the kids love it. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
And I wish I could stay forever. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
But she also knows there's still a lot to consider. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
I feel there is pressure, I should deliver to Chris. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
I hope Chris is honest enough to tell me that he loves the place | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
and that we hope to start our life here. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
I don't think I'm going to buckle in the face of such pressure. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
But it has been her dream for quite some time. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
And, hopefully, we can make it happen. And I'm hopeful. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
It's a positive start, but the country will have to deliver | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
in the next seven days if Chris is to fully commit to a life | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
on the other side of the world. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Back in the UK, home for the Atkins | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
is a three-bedroom semi in Bracknell. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
And it's fair to say they like where they live. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
The house we've got | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
and the location we've got is a very good one. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
We're a few minutes' walk from the school. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
And Bracknell is awash with cycleways, byways and highways. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
You can get from one side of the town to the other | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
without even walking on a road. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
So, what type of property are they after in New Zealand? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
Physically, a bigger house, because I'd like to have a dog or a cat. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
It would be nice to have a house | 0:09:39 | 0:09:40 | |
with a more open sort of kitchen-diner area. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
You can cook and you can see the family, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
and you have space for actually a dining table in the kitchen area. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
That would be nice to see. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
They'll have a budget of £320,000 to play with, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
but Chris isn't looking for anything fancy. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
We're looking for a modest house, something like we've got now, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
with a little bit of green space. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
Space for the obligatory barbecue. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
We can just chill out, put some loungers out the back. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
I don't think we're after a show house. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
We're not really show-house people. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
To find out what kind of home their money could get them, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
we'll show the family three properties, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
two based on budget and a third which could be their dream home. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
The search begins in Upper Hutt. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Surrounded by bush-clad mountains, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
the township has become popular in recent years as prices in the | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Wellington area increased. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
What will they make of this four-bedroom home? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Beautiful-looking place. I like the garden at the front. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
It's not wooden. You didn't want wooden. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
-It's all brick built. It looks good. -Big thumbs up from Chris. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
And, inside, Rossindra is getting excited, too. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
Do you like it? I like it. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
The way you park at the front and you walk in through the front door. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
And the hallway is great. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:57 | |
It's certainly bigger than our | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
current home in the UK, so I'm happy. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-I can't wait to see the rest of the place. -A good start. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
This is the main living area. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
-Nice. -It's very bright. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
I like the mural on the wall. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-It is hard to miss, to be fair. -It's much bigger than what we have. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-And a dining area. -I like it. -The dining area's quite cool. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
It's all very positive. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
But it's not long before Chris begins to have doubts. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
Perhaps slightly dated. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
I think we would be looking for a slightly more modern look. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
Well, that's fair enough. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Meanwhile, the girls know what they want. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-Can we go and play outside now? -Yes, you can. -Yay! | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
Mum and Dad, meanwhile, continue their tour. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
-After you. -Oh, thank you. -Next stop, the kitchen. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
-It's nice. Nice and compact. -I'll be honest, it's a bit small. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
It would be nice to have a bigger kitchen. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
It could do with a little bit of modernisation. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
Well, it is a far cry from | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
the open-plan kitchen on their wish list. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I'd like the fact that I'm cutting and cooking, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
I can watch the kids and I can tell them, "Oi, sit down. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
"Oi, switch the TV off. Do your homework." And cook. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
You can't get everything you want in life. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Unfortunately, that's so. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
-Hey, you got... -I got you. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
Yeah, OK. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
So, let's scratch that. You can get some of the things you want. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Aw, sweet. Moving on, however, styling in the main bedroom | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
also fails to impress. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Feels like one of the houses in the UK. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
It feels like your grandma's house. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
It does a little bit, yeah. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Maybe the bathroom can wow them. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
-Hey, something's missing. -What's missing? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
I'd prefer the toilet to be in here. Maybe it's next door. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
Let's go and find the toilet and see | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
if we can break the wall and put it all in one. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
-Oh. -Yeah, it is the toilet. So... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
I don't think you're really going to knock that together, are you? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-We can't? -I don't think so. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Wait until you move in before knocking stuff down, Rossindra. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
With four bedrooms, the house definitely has enough space | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
for the whole family and the double garage is an added bonus. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
And outside makes an impression. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Oh, wow, it's lovely. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-I love the decking area. -So there is a bit of space. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
But the jury's still out. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
It's a bit dated. But it's got some life in it. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-It's a bit like you, Chris. -Oh, that's nice. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
There's life in the old dog yet. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
You can say that again. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Steady on, Rossindra. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Let's get back to business. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Does the price fit the £320,000 budget? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-Come on, then. -OK. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
-Wow, it's £305,000. -Wow! -So that's within our budget. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
That's an impressive £15,000 under budget. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
-This is a steal. -Yeah, I think it's really good value for the price. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Let's hope this is representative of what we can find out here. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
Only one house down and things are motoring nicely. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Can property two keep things on track? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Lucy and Sarah are happy with child-minders | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
and we're going a bit further north to Birchfield, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
about one hour from Wellington. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Chris and Rossindra seemed smitten from the off. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
-It's certainly got the wow factor. -I love the area. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
I like that you're almost driving into a nature-reserve area. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
I mean, this is somewhere I would look at to go and stay | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
for a week's holiday in Wales or somewhere in the Lake District. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
And you can't get more beautiful than that. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Off to a flying start, but will inside this five-bedroom, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
three-garage house continue to impress? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
-Look. Wow. -It's certainly different from the first house. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
-Wow, yeah. -And it's got the layout they're after. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Yeah, it's very, very open-plan. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
And this is a huge living space. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
I think our living room is half of this. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
Once again, it's Chris who has doubts. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
The only concern I'd have here is heating it in the winter. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
It's a very big open space. Single-glazed windows. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
I think you'd need that wood burner. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
And Rossindra's initial warm glow | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
cools as she gets worried about the price. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
I absolutely love what I'm seeing, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
but I think it might be a bit above our budget. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
Unfortunately, it might be. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
Onwards to the main bedroom, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
which unusually is on the ground floor. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
So will this put them off? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
I think this is a good-sized master bedroom. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
I like the built-in wardrobes, built-in cupboards. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
But Chris has spotted the flaw. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Yeah. I don't know whether I'd be | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
too happy close to the road like that. And downstairs as well. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
Normally we live upstairs. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
However, the positives keep stacking | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
up and Chris is coming round in the en suite. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
-Yeah. -The toilet is there, so I'm happy. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Actually, it's nicely tiled, nicely finished, which is really nice. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Yeah, I like it. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Upstairs boasts another | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
four spacious and very colourful bedrooms. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
It's huge up here. It's got real character. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
This is a house you'd be proud to have friends over and family | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
over and say, this is why I moved halfway across the world. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
Sliding on into the main bathroom now. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Aw, it's a family bathroom. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-That is really nice. -You can have a bath with a view. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Mm, I hope that view is one-way. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
As they relocate downstairs, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
the outlook is good, because outside is magnificent. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
-Wow. -There's a lot of space. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
The outside is lovely. They've done a lot with it. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
I've got my roses here, so I'm happy. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-Yes, you've got roses. -Rossindra is getting very excited now. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
Your allotment patch over there | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
and you've still got the outside space for the kids to play, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
you can kick the ball around. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
In the beginning, Chris was sceptical about New Zealand - | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
is he beginning to see the light? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
This is a place you would want to bring people to entertain, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
barbecue out the back. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
You could play your football, badminton, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
whatever you like out the back there. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
The house ticks all the boxes and extra. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
We have to wait and see how much it costs. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
That is the big question. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
What do they think it's worth? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
£322,000. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
Well, I think about £375,000. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Oh, no, that's my dream home! Well...don't crush my dream! | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
-That's why it's a dream home. Shall we see? -Yes, come on, then. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
-How much is it? -SHE GASPS | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
£330,000. Wow, which makes this house pretty affordable. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
This is like a proper dream home. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
So are you happy with that valuation? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
I am super duper happy, Chris. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
Rossindra can hardly believe her luck, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
and there's still one more property to go. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
We've found what we think could be the couple's dream home | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
and it's just ten minutes up the road from the second property. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
-Wow. -Do you like it? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
-Yeah, I like it. -It looks a bit neat and tidy for me. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
Early indications of divided opinions. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Will the inside impress? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
It's really, really well done inside. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
It's new, it's modern, it's contemporary. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It's neat and tidy and that's up your street. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-Yeah, this is closer to my dream house than it is to yours. -SHE CHUCKLES | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-Yes. -The kitchen, however, works for both Rossindra and Chris. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
This kitchen is much bigger than the second house, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
and I do like a big kitchen. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
-But... -I don't see us in this house, because it's very neat and tidy. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:53 | |
-It's much too tidy for you? -Yes, yes. Yeah, it is. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
The lawn is very well kept and the grass is green, it's beautiful. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
Perfect for Chris, in other words. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
I hate gardening, but I would enjoy cutting that lawn. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
I would come home from work to cut that lawn. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
It looks lovely. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
Now that is high praise. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
But split opinions continue into the living area. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Oh, this is a lovely breakout area. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
-It's huge. -Yes. It's a beautiful area for relaxing. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
Throw some bean bags, throw some | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
toys around and then it'll be our house. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
Well, Chris is nodding, but I'm not | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
sure he's a bean bag sort of guy. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Will the main bedroom bridge the divide? | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
-Oh, look. -Wow. -Wow. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
-A walk-in wardrobe. -It had to be the walk-in wardrobe. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
Looking positive, and through the next door... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-Yay! -Oh, wow, the en suite. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:46 | |
-Do you like your clean, white lines, then? -Oh, yeah. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
Yeah. This is ticking all the boxes. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
This is exactly what I've been looking for. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
This is the house I would move halfway across the world for. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Chris is captivated. Rossindra on the other hand... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
It looks like a hotel room suite. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
I just need to bring my stuff in and mess it up a little, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
then it'll look like home. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
However, is she sensing that Chris might be coming round to the idea | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
of a New Zealand home? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
For me this is the best of the properties we've seen so far. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Look, we'll do a deal, all right? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
If you bring me and the kids down, I'll keep the house neat and tidy. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
-Okey-doke. -Are you up for that? -It's a deal. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Well, that's a step forward, but even outside this house, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
Rossindra just isn't seeing what Chris is seeing. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
-Do you like it? -Yeah, I do. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-It's beautiful. It's just...I don't see my vegetable plots... -No. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
..having any space in this very well-manicured garden. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
So I don't see that. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Is his dream house affordable on their £320,000 budget? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-All right, crunch time. -OK. It is crunch time. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
Yeah, I think this is going to be at the top of the range. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
£400,000, what do you say, maybe a bit more? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
No, I think that's too much. 370... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
£370,000? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
..seven. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
-OK. -I'm ready. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
Here's the moment of truth. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
It's... | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
-Oh! -£395,000. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Well, nearly £400,000. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
It is not insurmountable if we both get good jobs and we're working. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
So all you need to do is make the first step, come to New Zealand. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
The house-hunting may have seen Chris begin to waver | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
about living down under after a day | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
viewing three quite different properties. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
House number one had a lived-in charm, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
but needed a lot of work and didn't set the hearts racing. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
But at £305,000, it was well within budget. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Property two was Rossindra's perfect home. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
It had space, colour and a very pretty garden | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
with a price tag that was just over budget, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
but very manageable. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
House number three ticked all of Chris' boxes with its sleek, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
modern feel, but for Rossindra it just wasn't homely enough. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
At £395,000, it looks like they wouldn't be moving in any time soon. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:15 | |
So when it comes to Kiwi homes, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
will Chris and Rossindra vote for the UK or down under? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
After a day's house-hunting in Wellington, New Zealand, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
it's time to vote on the properties we've seen today. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-New Zealand! -New Zealand! Whoohoo! Well done, Chris. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
Correct answer - New Zealand. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
I'm pleased with you. Ten points for Chris. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
A vote for New Zealand homes is a huge step in the right direction | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
for Rossindra's dream, but she knows unless Chris | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
can be convinced of good job prospects down under, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
they won't be going anywhere. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Back in the UK, he works as an information manager | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
and data analyst in the local council | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
or, as it's called in the business, GIS. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
GIS stands for geographic information systems. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
We publish maps on to our website using our data and map-based data. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
Until recently, Rossindra also worked | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
for the council on environmental policy. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
It came to a time when they had to make certain cuts and my department | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
had to do some cuts and my role was no longer needed | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
as a full-time role, so they let me go. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
Relocating to New Zealand would be an opportunity for them both | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
to move to the private sector. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
I'd love to work with perhaps a wider zone of interest | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
than the local authority has now. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
The private sector affords those opportunities for you | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
to get involved in large difference-making projects. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
Currently his type of job should be the ticket for us to get in, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
but with Chris being a bit apprehensive, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
we also just need to find him a job that allows us to apply for a visa, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
he needs to find a job that he's comfortable in. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
And how much does Chris need to earn? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
Realistically, I would be looking | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
for a salary around £35,000 to £40,000 as a starting point. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
Without a shadow of a doubt, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
the work prospects in New Zealand are top of his priorities. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
If there were no opportunities for me in New Zealand, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
I'd be very reluctant to make the move. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Rossindra, on the other hand, is willing to compromise. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
I will work in a supermarket or I will be a binman | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
if it means Chris getting his visa, us starting new down under. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
Today, we'll give the couple the opportunity | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
to explore their chances of finding work down under. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
And for both, it's a tale of two expats. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
Rossindra is hooking up with Steve, originally from Maidstone in Kent. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
He's a recruiter at a large engineering and consultancy firm. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
-Do you want to come through? -Yeah, sure. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
While Chris is meeting Scott, originally from Scotland, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
at Wellington-based technology firm Eagle Technology. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
And straight away, he zones in on the killer question. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Do you think, with my skill set, I'd be able to get a job here? | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
I mean, GIS is a shortage area for us just now in New Zealand. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
You could work almost anywhere in the country, I would say. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
-Yeah. -Especially through local government. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Every council in the country uses GIS. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
I think we're lucky here that in New Zealand | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
a lot of the public sector's doing some really creative and | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
innovative things, so you wouldn't necessarily need to look | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
-at the private sector. -That's very different to the UK. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
So, good news right away. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
Across town with Rossindra, it's an equally good start. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
I'm looking for a role where it ties in with conservation, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
ecology, urban sustainability. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
I'm looking at roles in that line. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
We're in a good area at the moment, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
because the government is spending a lot of money on things like | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
infrastructure and housing, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
so we're getting more than our fair share of work. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Would I come in and be able to get a job? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Your background in planning, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
sustainability and environmental science would be valuable to other | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
organisations, and the fact that you've done project management as | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
well, that's a really good tick in your box, as well. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
-That's good. -Fantastic. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Back with Chris and Scott, they're talking visas. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Working in the UK, not a lot of organisations hire from overseas. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Will government organisations in New Zealand hire from overseas? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
I know that from Eagle's perspective, where I work here, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
we've got a very mixed set of people who work here | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
from all around the world. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
And it's a question also on Rossindra's mind. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Myself and some of the team went to the UK in February | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
and ran a bit of a workshop and actually employed... | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
I think we've employed six people now directly from the UK. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
-Oh, Steve, you missed me! -Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
Where was I in February? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Chris, meanwhile, has moved on to talk about the all-important issues | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
of hours and pay. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
So, I've looked at your CV and seen the experience you have there, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
and for a GIS manager role in New Zealand, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
I would think somewhere in the range of 48,000 to 64,000 in pounds | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
as a salary would be the sort of range I would be thinking. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
That sounds very encouraging. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
Now, that's an offer he can't refuse. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
So, what about Rossindra? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
You'd probably be looking at around about £43,000 to £53,000. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
Someone with your background, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
the fact that you've got a master's degree, as well | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
and your level of experience. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
Much more than what I was earning, so... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
-Good, that's excellent. -It's been a quickfire day, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
with really encouraging news | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
on the work front for both Chris and Rossindra. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
So the mood is upbeat as they meet to compare notes. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -You all right? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
-Yeah, had a good day. -That's good. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
I'm very positive. Had a good interview. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Possibly some leads on a job. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
So, very positive so far. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
-Aw, I'm really pleased. -I could be starting around 45,000 UK pounds, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
working up to about 65,000. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
It's more than what I'm earning now and, I mean, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
it has the potential for the future, which is what I'm looking for. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
-That's good to hear. -And how was your day? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-How were your interviews? -I was quite pleasantly surprised. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
He liked my CV and he did say there are opportunities. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
-And what about the salary? -The salary's good. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
He said 42 and I almost fell off my chair. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
-Pounds? -£42,000? Yes. -That's pretty good. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
So, fingers crossed we can both secure the right opportunities. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
I'm quite optimistic. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
Yeah, that's good. It's good. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
So, let's guess how this vote goes. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
-I'm really pleased. -Your dream is still alive. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
-Aw. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
-OK. Let's go and find the kids. -Let's go. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
With prospects blossoming and love blooming, things are looking up. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
Halfway through their trial week, and it couldn't be going better | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
for Ros' mission to convince her cautious husband Chris | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
that their future lies in New Zealand. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
But there's still that all-important financial reality check | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
and messages from home to come. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
And that can change everything. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
First, though, it's time for them to sample the sort of lifestyle | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
the family might be able to enjoy down under. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
The Atkins family head off to spend the day at a local nature reserve. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
The weather has taken a turn for the worse, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
so it's time to get the wellies on down in Wellington. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
The family are being given a guided tour | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
and getting up close to some Kiwi wildlife. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Sarah and Lucy get the chance to feed some very hungry native kaka. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
Yes, hang there, Lucy. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:01 | |
Or maybe not so hungry. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I think he wants the stick. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
In fact, these guys seem more interested in Mum's head. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-Mummy! -He better not poo-poo on me! -KIDS SHRIEK AND GIGGLE | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
Well, if they don't want to be fed, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
there are some less exotic species | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
that will always want a bite to eat. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Ducks. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
And the creature they meet before a spot of lunch | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
looks like it could have them for lunch. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
But it's friendly, really. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
And as they eat New Zealand style, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Chris is getting into the swing of things. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
I guess that's how they roll out here in New Zealand. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-Cook outside. -A fun family day out for the Atkins is rounded off | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
with a bit of a surprise. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-Oh, my God! -Guys! | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
What is that? We are here, we're out. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
A call from home, from Rossindra's sister. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Romina, it's been really good. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
The interviews have been good, the houses have been good. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
Hi, Romina. We are at this great bird sanctuary today, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
and a bird just landed on Ros' head. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
-So, that really cheered us all up. -Why, though? -I don't know why. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
Of all the people to land on, he lands on me, Romina. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
-That's good luck! -Yeah, I hope. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
-It is good luck. -Romina, say hi to Lucy. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
-Hello, Romina. -Are you enjoying yourself? -Yeah. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
-Hi, hi! -Hiya! Oh, I can hear the birds. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
It's a duck, silly. ROMINA LAUGHS | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
OK, Romina, thanks for calling! | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
Thanks a lot, and we'll see you soon! | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
-Say bye! -Bye! -Bye-bye! | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
A friendly voice and increasingly receptive Chris - | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
surely Rossindra must be delighted. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
I don't know, I'm a bit scared. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
I've got a bit of cold feet and, yeah, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
I'll be honest - I'm just a little bit afraid now. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
That's a bolt from the blue. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Clearly more thinking to be done. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
But, based on today, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
will the family vote for lifestyle in the UK or New Zealand? | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
After a good day in New Zealand our vote goes to... | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
-New Zealand! -New Zealand! | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
Mm, Sarah and Lucy not on board | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
and whilst Rossindra may be harbouring some doubts, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
she certainly knows the secret to securing the children's vote. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
Maybe we just need to convince the kids. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
-Buy them an ice cream or something. -Yeah, I think that's a good idea. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Come on, then, Lucy, Sarah - do you want an ice cream? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
-Yes! -OK, they're right up here. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
It seems though Chris is swaying towards a move, but for Rossindra, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
reality seems to be dawning | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
so the tables have turned. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
In any case, relocating to New Zealand could be a pipe dream | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
if the figures don't stack up. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Getting the right price for their UK home will be key. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
The couple think it's worth £310,000, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
but will two local estate agents agree? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
While the children are looked after by a child minder, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Chris and Rossindra prepare to find out. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
It's our little house. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
OK, so good-sized living and dining-room space, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
I would definitely advise by knocking down the partition, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
opening up the space and enjoying the dual aspect of the property. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
-Thank you. I'm happy. -That's a good idea. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
OK, reasonable size kitchen. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
Nice contemporary units, even space for a table and chairs. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
-So a nice space. -That looks really nice. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
-I could live in that. -OK, so good-sized double bedroom. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
Needs a little bit of cosmetic attention, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
maybe sort of fill in the sort of few hairline fractures we have, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
otherwise good-sized double. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
So, the upstairs is a very typical layout for houses of this period | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
and we come into the second bedroom here and there is a really unusual | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
feature in this cupboard which is built over the stairwell. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
I've seen dozens of these houses | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
before and I've never seen that done which is a really nice idea. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Makes a really good space, and you've still got room | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
for a double bed so it's a really good-sized second bedroom. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
So, true market evaluation for the property would be in the region of | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
£315,000. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
if the vendors were looking for a quick sale, I would advise | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
putting the property on the market | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
for £300,000, offers in excess of. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
In today's market, I would value this house between | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
£310,000 and £320,000. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
For a quick sale, I would value it at £300,000. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
So as a rental valuation, I would value the property in the region of | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
£1,200 per calendar month. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
If the owners wanted to rent, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:51 | |
I would suggest a value of between £1,150 | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
and £1,200 per calendar month. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
-I'm really pleased. -Yeah, I mean it's around about | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
what we were expecting, so...but it's really good. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
So, you're not upset or anything to think that somebody could move into | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
the house or buy the property off us? It's been your family home. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
The important thing is the family | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
-itself and you make your home wherever you are. -Yeah. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
Come on, then, new start, new start. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
That's the spirit, Rossindra. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
Time to examine the cost of living. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
First, the weekly food shop. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
Chicken - more expensive. We use a lot of chicken, don't we? | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
But bananas...bananas are a lot more expensive. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
The grocery bill looks like it'll be | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
more expensive in New Zealand, but by how much? | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
So, £56 worse off a month in New Zealand. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
£56 a month won't break the bank, but Chris and Rossindra have also to | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
tackle the bigger outgoings. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
And there's nothing off the Richter scale | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
until Rossindra reacts to one figure. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Home insurance! It's making me think that you have to pay more | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
in New Zealand and then my mind wanders and I think possibly | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
it could be because of the earthquakes | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
that are happening over here? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
And then I think, "Oh, gee, earthquake! | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
"Do I want to move down under?" | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
Chris has stunned written all over his face - | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
it's yet another sign of doubt from Rossindra. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
Will the comparison of outgoings make things better or worse? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
-£300. -£300 per month. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
-Better off? -Better off in New Zealand! | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
That's pretty impressive, isn't it? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
Yeah, that's good, happy news, yay, we should celebrate. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
On firmer ground, they look at income. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
If Rossindra did get a job down under | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
and Chris' income increased in line with the advice they were given... | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
This is an extra of £4,252 a month. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
Per month. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
That's pretty good, isn't it? | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
It's a significant amount of money, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
but Rossindra's erring on the cautious side. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
But at the back of my mind I keep thinking, you know, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
people always say if it looks too good to be true, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
then perhaps...perhaps it's not true. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
But for Chris, the numbers don't lie. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
And when all the figures are totalled, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
they'd be better off in New Zealand by over £4,000 a month. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
That's a massive £54,624 a year. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
It's the lifestyle and the environment that you wanted. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-Yes. -And I think we've proved that, through the numbers, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
that that is actually attainable - it looks pretty positive. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Yes! | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
It's time to vote. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
After going through our finances, our vote goes to... | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
-BOTH: -New Zealand! | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
Knowing they'd thrive financially down under is motivating Chris, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
but the emotional cost has to be considered, too. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Lucy and Sarah are keen to join in as the families sit down to watch | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
messages from loved ones back home. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
Hi, Rossi! Hi, Chris! | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
Hello, guys, hi! | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Hello, Chris and Rossi. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
Chris and Rossi are very good together. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
I think Chris is quite funny, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
he has a bit of a cold sense of humour | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
which works well, because Rossi has the extra-focused sense of humour. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
Chris is very quiet. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
He is not adventurous in trying foreign food. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:44 | |
She's always been saying how nice and beautiful New Zealand is | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
and she'd like to go and see and live there. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
She said if she ever gets the opportunity to go to any country | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
she will choose New Zealand. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
I think Chris might be a little bit more unsure about going, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
cos obviously it's Rossi that is the one that wants to go. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
Oh, I'll definitely miss the daily conversations that we have, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
daily chats, cos we talk quite a lot. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
I'd definitely miss seeing the girls. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
I really want them to go and do well, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
but on the other hand I'm really going to miss them. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
Rossi's the only one here, so I get to go and see her, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
but if she's gone then for me, as well, it's going to be all alone | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
and it's really a long way to go. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
But I will miss her a lot and the children if she goes, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
but it's one of them things. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
I think you should just go for it, it's a great opportunity | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
for Rossi and Chris before the children get too old | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
and get settled where they are. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:43 | |
So if Rossi feels that New Zealand is going to have a better future | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
for her and her family and the children, I feel Chris will agree. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
I'll definitely support you 100%, whatever decision you make. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
Good luck! | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
Ohh. So, what do you think? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
So it is very difficult, as she said, it's a very long way away. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
That's one of the factors, isn't it? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
You have to weigh up moving all the way out here. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Will you be sad to leave the UK? | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
Yes, I will be, but the main point here is they've all | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
given us their blessings and at this point in our life I think, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
yeah, we should take our chances and see what life has to offer for us. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
Hearing from family and friends seems to have refocused Rossindra | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
in her long-held ambition to move down under. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
Undoubtedly, it's a difficult decision. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
At the start of the week, free spirit Rossindra made it her | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
mission to convince her more cautious | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
and, yes, cynical husband Chris | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
that they should risk it all on a move down under. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
He, however, wanted to find out | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
whether the gamble was just too big to make. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Now, as they approach the final vote, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
has she managed to win him round to her way of thinking? | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
What would you do if it was you? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
After years of coaxing husband Chris to relocate down under, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
his attitude isn't what she anticipated. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
I'm shocked by the fact that Chris is all go, go, go on Chris' side. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:17 | |
If anything, it's Rossindra who appears reluctant to take the leap. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
You stood at the edge of the cliff | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
and you've waited like, "Come on, guys! Come on! Come on!" | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
You look at yourself and you're like, "Am I ready?" | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
I spent all this time getting them here, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
-"Am I ready, have I got my parachute on?" -SHE LAUGHS | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
As ever, it's been the messages from home that have made a huge impact on | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
-the couple. -The friends and family messages do bring you back to | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
reality and I guess show you what you're missing. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
It's kind of a check and to see - "Do you want to do this thing?" | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
It's a massive step moving to the other side of the world. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
So maybe a little bit of doubt in my mind. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
So as the final vote approaches, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
how are this very loving - but very different - couple feeling? | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
This is crunch time, the kids are young | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
and we're not getting any younger. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
It's a little bit of soul-searching | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
and some tough decision-making to be done. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
Will the family decide their destiny lies at home or away? | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
BOTH: New Zealand! | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
UK! | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
Wow, Chris, you voted New Zealand, well done! I am pleased. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Yeah, you've won me around, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
I'm quite happy with what our lifestyle could be out here, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
-I'm happy to give it a go. -Yay! Come on, then. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
Well, she did it! | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
And, finally, cautious Chris became Chris the convert. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
All they have to do now is work on little Sarah. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
Whatever move they make next, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
we'll be following their progress with interest. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
And, of course, wishing them the best of luck. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Group hug, group hug, group hug! Group hug, group hug! | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 |