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Claire Jones has always believed her family's future lies in Australia. But husband Jason says it's a really bad idea and feels she isn't living in the real world.


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Claire Jones has always believed her family's future lies not in Wales,

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-but down under.

-I've been to Australia, I've seen what it's like.

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But husband Jason feels she simply isn't living in the real world.

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I think we've got too much to gamble.

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But I think we've got a lot to gain.

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And Jason's not the only one who thinks it's a bad idea.

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Well, she told me and I said, "Are you sure you want to go?

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"What are you looking for?"

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Will Claire's dream be left in tatters?

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I think towards the end of the week, the pressure may build.

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So it will either convince me that it's the right thing or it will

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convince you that it's the wrong thing.

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Everything is riding on this week in Australia, absolutely everything.

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FUNKY MUSIC PLAYS

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With just seven people per square mile,

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Australia's 100 times less densely populated than the UK.

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And with miles of sandy beaches,

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a sunny climate and a laid-back outdoors lifestyle,

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it's no wonder it's the favourite destination for those seeking to

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make a new life down under.

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The Jones family from Wales feel it's time to decide once and for all

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whether Australia really is the land of their dreams.

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But it's not going to be easy.

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Because Mum and Dad are on different pages about the move.

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Across one week,

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they'll get to see the sort of life they could lead and afford if they

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relocated down under, before voting on where their future lies.

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To get from the UK to the east coast of Australia,

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the Jones family have spent more than 25 hours in the air.

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As they touch down in Brisbane, reactions are somewhat mixed.

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I wouldn't want to go through that flight too often.

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Once in a blue moon is fine, but, you know, a couple of times of year

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is something I don't think I could do.

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It's not as bad as I thought it would be, to be honest.

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Plenty of entertainment, plenty of food, plenty of sleep, we were fine.

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With her feet firmly on Aussie soil,

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Claire's hoping it lives up to expectations.

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I'm feeling really excited, but a tad bit nervous as well

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about the trial week.

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I've been to Australia before, but that was 20 years ago, and I

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just want it to be as I remember it.

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I do really want it to all work out.

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Jason's in no doubt about the challenge the family is facing.

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In the trial week, what we need to know is that we're all happy with

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the decision either way.

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The boys, as well, will have a big say in it, not just me and Claire.

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The last thing I want is for Jason to be undecided, because then,

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I'll feel like I haven't benefited at all.

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Claire has just seven days to convince Jason Australia is where

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they should spend the rest of their lives.

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The Jones family are from Merthyr Tydfil in South Wales.

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They're dad Jason, mum Claire,

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Rio, age six, and Rowan who's just four.

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Claire caught the Australian bug at an early age when her auntie

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emigrated as a Ten Pound Pom.

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When I was young, she used to tell me tales of Australia

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which sounded magical.

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The beaches with the white sand, the blue sea, the sunshine.

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It sounded so good, in fact,

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that Claire's family thought about making the move themselves.

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Twice my parents have gone to emigrate,

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once when I was two or three and another time when I was 18.

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But then a certain gentleman got in the way.

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I had just met Jason and I didn't want to leave him, basically.

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And so the dream was put on hold.

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Claire's parents wouldn't leave without Claire.

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Claire wouldn't leave without me.

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So, yeah, I put a spanner in the works.

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Up until now, it's been a decision neither regrets.

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They've built a very happy life in Wales with their two boys,

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a house they love and jobs that pay well.

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But just recently, things have started to change.

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We literally come home from work, walk through the front door,

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shut the curtains, and we just eat dinner, bath the kids and bed.

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Now, to me, that's not a life.

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Let's go. I want to see some goals.

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And even Jason is seeing that it's affecting his young sons.

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The weather just stops us from doing so many things.

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And we just want to change that.

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If you're not happy, then it's down to you to change it.

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Yes, of course, that Welsh weather.

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Unfortunately, this is typical of our camping trips.

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-A bit of a wash-out.

-Thumbs down.

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But it's wet weekends like this that's convinced Claire

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they should pack up and pitch camp in Australia.

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I've been to Australia, I've seen what it's like -

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it's a lot more relaxed.

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Mum Claire isn't content sitting on the sidelines any more.

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She now needs to make the move happen, as do Rio and Rowan.

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We like playing football and it's too wet here,

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so we can play football

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in Australia every day.

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But, come rain or shine,

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dad and football coach Jason is out on the footy pitch with his

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boys, and is reluctant to blow the final whistle on his UK lifestyle.

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And perhaps most importantly, the close friends and family they've got

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-round them.

-I think that we know how good a support network we've got

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here, but I think it'll be a shock

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to the system when that's taken away.

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Claire is aware that any move would tear apart some very important

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emotional bonds.

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Rio and Rowan are very, very close to my parents and Jason's mother.

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We love her so much and...

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..we're going to miss them.

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I'm very nervous about that, I'm very worried about that.

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It's not all positive,

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that is probably one of the biggest negatives there are.

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But she hopes that extended visits could be the answer,

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not that Jason is convinced.

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I think that it'll be a reality check for Claire, and I think she'll

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struggle being that far away from her immediate family.

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He doesn't like the thought of a gamble.

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I think we've got too much to gamble.

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But I think we've got a lot to gain.

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For their trial week down under,

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the family is visiting Brisbane in south-east Queensland.

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It's one of the fastest-growing capital cities in the country,

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but will it offer the perfect lifestyle Claire craves?

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It's getting dark as the family arrive at their base -

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a holiday home only minutes from Brisbane's city centre.

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Will the week get off to the bright start Claire's hoping for?

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Oh, what do you think, boys?

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-Like it.

-It's lovely, isn't it?

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-Nice and bright.

-Yeah.

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-Modern.

-Nice and spacious.

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-Oh, what's this, Row?

-Oh, wow!

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-A positive start so far?

-Very good start so far.

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As the family unpack,

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Claire's pinching herself to have finally made it to the country

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she's been dreaming of for decades,

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and she's feeling optimistic.

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I've got a very good chance of showing you that this is the right

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thing for us, as a family.

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Looks like the boys could already be onside.

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I want to move to Australia because it's very sunny and we can go on

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the beach and swimming lots of times.

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I'm looking forward to moving to Australia to see kangaroos.

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-Not funny, Rio.

-LAUGHTER

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But persuading Jason to uproot and move to the other side

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of the world may not be quite so easy.

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At the moment, I'm quite relaxed.

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I think towards the end of the week, the pressure may build.

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So it will either convince me that it's the right thing, or it'll

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convince you that it's the wrong thing.

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The week ahead will be make or break.

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It's not something I want to ramble on about for the next ten, 20 years.

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So I think, after this week,

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if it's a no, then we need to forget about it completely.

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Back in the UK, the Jones family live in a three-bedroom semi

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in Merthyr Tydfil in Wales.

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I wouldn't change anything about where we live at the moment.

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No, I love it up here.

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I think this house was destined for us.

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It's somewhere they're proud to call home.

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A lot of hard work has gone into it.

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You know, we've put our own stamp on it and it's just at the point now

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that we're happy.

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With a budget of £200,000,

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they're realistic about what they might get in an Aussie home.

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I haven't got the blinkers on, I don't think we're going to get,

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you know, a nice, big four-bedroom detached with a pool in the garden.

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As much as that would be nice, I don't think it's going to happen.

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But they do have a wish list.

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Lots of outdoor space.

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Open-plan. The typical Australia house,

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like a bungalow in a nice community, close to schools.

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Not too far from the beach.

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Finding the right house will be crucial if Claire is to have any

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chance of getting Jason to relocate to the other side of the world.

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We have agreed that if we can't find anything in Australia that's for

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our budget that's a patch on what we've already got,

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then the dream is over.

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-So I basically said, "Yes, that's right."

-SHE LAUGHS

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Cos I'm quite confident that we will find something.

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To see just what their £200,000 budget could buy them around

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Brisbane, we've lined up three houses -

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two close to their budget,

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and a third which might very well be their dream property.

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-What do you think about these houses? This looks lovely.

-This looks like a lovely neighbourhood.

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For their first viewing,

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the Jones travel half an hour south to Algester.

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This is a fantastic suburb to live in, with schools, parks, cafes all

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within a short distance and only a 20-minute drive to the coast.

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But will this modern townhouse in its quiet cul-de-sac

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be worth considering?

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Lovely, isn't it?

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I love how they've got the mailboxes on the end.

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Have you noticed that, boys? The postman puts his letters in the end.

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-Shall we go and have a look?

-For Claire, obviously,

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it's the little things that count.

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-Oh, this is nice.

-Kitchen-diner.

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Inside, things continue in a positive vibe.

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But not for long.

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It's not as big as our kitchen, is it, back home?

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-No.

-And the theme continues in the main bedroom.

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Is not as nice as the one we've got back home, is it?

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-No.

-Let's hope the en-suite is big enough for them.

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I don't know whether I'm just narrow-minded and I can't see

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past it, but it's really not my style at all.

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Whose room would this be, boys?

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-Ours.

-I don't think there's room for two of you in here, is there?

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OK. Let's move on, shall we?

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At least there's room next door for expansion.

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This could be a bedroom,

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-but there needs to be another room, then, for...

-Toys.

-..TV and toys.

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The family bathroom next, although it seems to be engaged.

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LAUGHTER

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Nanny Theresa would like that cat, wouldn't she?

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-It's not quite the his-and-hers sinks I was hoping for.

-No.

-SHE LAUGHS

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It's all a bit of a tight squeeze, then,

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which makes the next room something of a surprise.

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It's a gym.

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Yeah, this would be a decent-sized living room, as long as it's all

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insulated properly and everything. But it's, again,

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there's quite a bit of work to do to get it done, so...

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A hell of a lot of work.

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Only the outdoors can save this place now.

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OK, so it's not quite a pool - it's a hot tub.

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-It's just not a garden, though, is it?

-There's no grass, is there?

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There's nowhere for you to play football, is there?

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It's just, it's just a yard. I can't compromise on the outside.

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No.

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This property has definitely underwhelmed.

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Well, I think the area's perfect.

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It's a lovely area, there's no denying that.

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But I can't see myself moving the other side of the world and giving

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-up what we've got for this. It kills me to say it.

-SHE LAUGHS

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But that's the truth.

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But if it was within their £200,000 budget,

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would that make it more attractive?

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I wouldn't pay any more than £170,000.

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I'm going to go with 185,000.

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Go on, Rio, turn the card.

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-That's too much.

-£218,000!

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That's £18,000 over budget.

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I wouldn't pay that for this. Definitely not.

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Let's hope the next ones get better.

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Claire's dream of a new start down under is off to a shaky start.

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Let's hope property number two can get things back on track.

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In the car, they head south-east towards the coast.

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A 45-minute drive gets them to property number two -

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an open-plan, three-bedroom house in Upper Coomera.

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This is the place to live for dual city residents, down the main

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highway from Brisbane, but still close enough to enjoy

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the Gold Coast's renowned lifestyle.

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And the kerb appeal is good.

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-Looks nice.

-Yeah, it does look nice.

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Inside, however, the size issue is back with a vengeance.

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Straight into the lounge.

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-I'd like to have a little bit of a hallway or a porch.

-Yeah.

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Quite like the way it's decorated.

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-It's nice, clean and polished.

-Yeah.

-But it's just...

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..it's a bit small as well.

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Something tells me they're not convinced.

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This is quite a nice kitchen.

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Not really my style.

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There's just not enough room, is there, for us and the boys?

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Upstairs to the bedrooms now,

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and size is again on Mum and Dad's minds.

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It's a decent-sized bedroom, isn't it, if it was for one of the boys?

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-I think if this is the master bedroom...

-It's too small.

-..it's a bit too small, yeah.

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Shall we go and have a look at the other rooms?

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-Shall we have a little look?

-Yeah? Let's go.

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OK. So this is a bit bigger bedroom than the last one.

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-It should be mine, I think.

-Yeah?

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OK, you can see yourself in this bedroom, can you?

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-Yeah.

-But it's the main bedroom that really has the wow factor.

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-Wow!

-Oh, this is nice.

-I would say this is the master bedroom, yeah.

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Yeah, nice little balcony.

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It seems this room with a view is starting to win Claire over.

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-Nice, yeah.

-I can see myself sitting there with a beer in the evening.

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Yeah. It's a nice little extra, isn't it,

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just to have this, just outside your bedroom door, so...

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-Yeah.

-And the change of mood continues into the family bathroom.

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This is bigger than what we've got back home.

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It is bigger, but again, we've got quite a small bath.

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I think it's just about my size.

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-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-That's positive.

-Yeah.

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-Let's go.

-Outdoors is definitely an improvement on property one,

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although with the same old problems.

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Well, they've done it lovely here with what they've got.

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I just think it's a bit small for us, again.

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We're losing yet again on what we've got back home.

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This seems to me like it's more for a young couple rather than a family.

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I'm on about people who have children, it's a bit small....

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-Yeah, fair enough.

-..to have children running around.

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So will it come in on the £200,000 budget

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the family have set themselves?

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Time to find out.

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I would say 185-190.

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I would say 175. I wouldn't be happy paying anything over that.

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So 175 would be my limit on this.

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Shall we find out, Row? Do you want to turn over the card?

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Yeah?

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-Oh!

-192,000.

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That's still a bit more than I would pay.

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It's more than I would pay,

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but I would expect to have a nicer property for what we want to buy.

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And I appreciate now that I may need to extend the budget.

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Yeah, yeah. I think so as well.

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And finally, property three - the dream house,

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situated 15 minutes away in Coomera itself.

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Oh, look, boys, I think it's this one.

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We hope this shows the family what their dream home might look like.

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But you know what they say -

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"You get what you pay for."

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Inside, it's clear this place is a different class from what they've

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-seen so far.

-You wouldn't have to do a lot to this at all, would you?

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-No.

-We could just move in.

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-Yeah.

-First impressions are good, and it looks like Jason could be

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-coming around, too.

-This is a nice lounge, isn't it?

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Yeah. Nice and bright.

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I can picture myself laying on the sofa up there, watching TV.

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Oh, wow! This is a big space, isn't it?

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-Yeah.

-An adjoining garage, meanwhile,

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gives him ideas of expansion.

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Get rid of the roller doors and have a bit of a playroom in here.

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Rio, however, is thinking big.

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-Maybe we could have, like, a cinema in here.

-Like a cinema?

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-A cinema? OK.

-Yeah.

-We could do that.

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-Let's have a think.

-Well, with the cinema room,

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you're going to need some snacks. So how's the kitchen looking?

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Could definitely see us eating around that table.

0:17:260:17:29

-Yeah.

-I mean, there's plenty of space there,

0:17:290:17:31

a lot more space than our dining area back home.

0:17:310:17:33

This place has the space the family has been after.

0:17:330:17:36

So much so that the boys fancy a rest

0:17:360:17:39

while Mum and Dad explore the bedrooms...

0:17:390:17:42

Ah, this is a nice bedroom.

0:17:420:17:44

-Yeah.

-Isn't it?

-Would be perfect, yeah, for one of the boys.

0:17:440:17:47

..although exploring further reveals this would actually be THEIR room.

0:17:470:17:51

Aw, that's nice. An en-suite with his-and-hers sinks.

0:17:510:17:56

I'll clean mine and you'll clean yours.

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-And I use yours.

-LAUGHTER

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The rest of the bedrooms are compact,

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but it certainly doesn't seem to be

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-putting them off.

-All three rooms, I think, are about a similar size.

0:18:070:18:10

-Yeah. So far, so good?

-Yeah.

0:18:100:18:13

And there's even a bit of a bonus.

0:18:130:18:16

Ah, a fourth bedroom. That's a nice surprise, isn't it?

0:18:160:18:19

Yeah, it is.

0:18:190:18:20

Right, how will outdoor fare?

0:18:200:18:23

-OK.

-Yeah, it's quite, um...small.

0:18:230:18:27

Oh, no! That word again!

0:18:270:18:30

-Small!

-I think this really lets the house down.

0:18:300:18:34

And the side garden doesn't redeem things.

0:18:340:18:37

-OK.

-It's long.

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It's not wide enough.

0:18:400:18:41

The house is fantastic, but the rest of it, the outside area is just

0:18:410:18:44

-not what we want.

-Disappointing.

-Yeah.

0:18:440:18:47

Could they afford it anyway on their £200,000 budget?

0:18:470:18:51

So I think it's definitely the most expensive house we've seen.

0:18:510:18:54

-I would agree.

-So, what do you think it's worth?

0:18:540:18:57

I'm going to say 280,000.

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I'm going to go 270.

0:19:010:19:04

Shall we turn the card, then?

0:19:040:19:06

Ladies first.

0:19:060:19:07

Oh!

0:19:100:19:11

-I'm pleasantly surprised.

-260,000.

0:19:110:19:14

It's good. It's more promising.

0:19:150:19:17

-Definitely.

-Yeah?

-Feel happier.

-Happier after this one?

0:19:170:19:20

-Yeah.

-Good.

0:19:200:19:22

A day house-hunting in Brisbane has been an eye-opener for the Jones.

0:19:220:19:27

Property one was too small and not to their taste, and at £18,000 over

0:19:270:19:31

budget, Claire and Jason weren't

0:19:310:19:33

convinced it offered value for money.

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Property number two was better,

0:19:360:19:38

coming in at just under budget, and though it was more to their liking,

0:19:380:19:42

it soon bit the dust for the couple when the garden failed to impress.

0:19:420:19:46

House number three, the dream home,

0:19:470:19:49

had the space and wow factor they were looking for.

0:19:490:19:53

And discovering it was affordable, albeit at a stretch,

0:19:530:19:56

was a real bonus.

0:19:560:19:58

So when it comes to property, will Jason and Claire vote home or away?

0:19:580:20:03

After an interesting property day, our vote goes to...

0:20:050:20:09

-UK!

-UK!

-UK!

-Undecided!

0:20:150:20:17

UK! UK!

0:20:170:20:19

Undecided?

0:20:190:20:21

-That's a surprise.

-UK!

-Yeah,

0:20:210:20:24

-there's no denying we can get more for our money in the UK.

-UK!

0:20:240:20:27

Nothing has made me say that, yeah, I want to give up the house I've got at the moment.

0:20:270:20:32

So how are you feeling, Claire, after the first day?

0:20:320:20:35

-Pretty gutted, if I'm honest.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

0:20:350:20:38

So tomorrow is going to be a bit more positive.

0:20:380:20:40

Claire's trying hard to stay positive, but the reality of

0:20:460:20:49

the Brisbane property market has produced a very shaky

0:20:490:20:52

start to her hopes of a fresh life down under.

0:20:520:20:56

Finding the right jobs for both her and Jason in Australia will be key

0:20:560:21:00

if she's to come close to affording the home and lifestyle

0:21:000:21:03

she yearns for.

0:21:030:21:04

Claire's the main visa applicant.

0:21:040:21:07

Back in the UK, she works in human resources,

0:21:070:21:09

-where she earns around £25,000 a year.

-Morning.

0:21:090:21:13

I head up the HR Department,

0:21:130:21:15

and we look after clients and try and resolve

0:21:150:21:18

all their employee issues as best we can.

0:21:180:21:21

It's a tough job, but somebody has to do it.

0:21:210:21:24

It's a role she's keen on pursuing if the family move down under,

0:21:240:21:28

and Claire is reasonably confident.

0:21:280:21:31

There's definitely availability of my type of job in Australia.

0:21:310:21:36

Whether or not my qualifications and experience will be transferable,

0:21:360:21:40

-I don't know.

-Jason works in the car industry,

0:21:400:21:43

where he earns just under what his wife earns.

0:21:430:21:46

I buy all the electrical components here for two of the world's largest

0:21:460:21:51

car manufacturers.

0:21:510:21:53

Having recently been promoted from the shop floor,

0:21:530:21:55

he's keen to continue his career progression in Australia.

0:21:550:21:59

For him, moving is a huge gamble.

0:21:590:22:02

It's a massive risk.

0:22:020:22:04

We've both got stable jobs on our doorsteps,

0:22:040:22:06

really good money for what we do.

0:22:060:22:10

Not surprisingly, Jason has some preconditions

0:22:100:22:12

if he's to agree to a move.

0:22:120:22:14

As long as it's flexible around schools and the children,

0:22:150:22:20

and as long as it can

0:22:200:22:23

provide us with financial stability.

0:22:230:22:26

There's a lot riding on today if the dream life Claire has been

0:22:260:22:30

yearning for down under is to become a reality.

0:22:300:22:33

To check out job opportunities in Oz,

0:22:330:22:35

we've arranged for her to visit a law firm in Brisbane,

0:22:350:22:39

where she meets with expat James Hickman

0:22:390:22:41

from the company's HR department.

0:22:410:22:43

Thanks very much for sending your resume, Claire.

0:22:430:22:46

I've had a good look at it. It looks really good.

0:22:460:22:48

So, are my qualifications enough to get a job here,

0:22:480:22:52

or are there any gaps in my resume that I need to fill?

0:22:520:22:56

Well, I've had our HR department look at your resume, and they're

0:22:560:22:59

very impressed with it, and they feel that it would not be that

0:22:590:23:02

difficult for you to find a job in Australia,

0:23:020:23:04

doing the same sort of work, provided, of course,

0:23:040:23:07

you're able to get a work visa, and they think that you're

0:23:070:23:09

very employable over here with your great experience.

0:23:090:23:13

Across town, Jason is dropping in on Peter Coe,

0:23:130:23:16

who is the production manager for a company making chargers

0:23:160:23:20

for electric cars - a growing industry in Australia.

0:23:200:23:23

But to start with, it seems like it might not be a straight swap.

0:23:230:23:27

We don't actually have specifically your role here, but we do actually

0:23:270:23:32

have two roles which straddle what you do.

0:23:320:23:35

So we have a purchasing officer role here, and we also have a logistics

0:23:350:23:39

-coordinator role.

-Do you think, after looking at my CV,

0:23:390:23:42

that I need to do any extra training?

0:23:420:23:44

There is a Logistics Certificate III qualification,

0:23:440:23:48

which will be very useful for you,

0:23:480:23:50

which you can obtain either in three months,

0:23:500:23:53

or two years if you study it part-time.

0:23:530:23:56

Due to my children being in school currently,

0:23:560:23:58

is there any flexibility around that 40-hour week?

0:23:580:24:01

We're certainly very flexible to your needs, and regarding childcare,

0:24:010:24:06

it really wouldn't be a problem.

0:24:060:24:09

Back at the law firm, and Claire has money on her mind.

0:24:090:24:12

So obviously it's really important that I get to find out how much

0:24:120:24:16

I could potentially be earning here in Australia.

0:24:160:24:19

Well, a full-time HR advisor at Shine would earn

0:24:190:24:21

about £50,000, and a manager leading a small team would be

0:24:210:24:25

about £75,000.

0:24:250:24:28

Oh, that's really good news. Really positive to take away today.

0:24:280:24:31

That's over double what she earns in the UK, and there's even more good

0:24:310:24:35

news when it comes to the availability of jobs.

0:24:350:24:38

In Brisbane itself, there are over 1,300 HR positions,

0:24:380:24:42

so there are a lot of jobs available.

0:24:420:24:44

Thank you very much, James, that's been really useful.

0:24:440:24:46

Just what Claire needed to hear.

0:24:460:24:49

Will Jason also get good news about his potential earnings?

0:24:490:24:52

If I was lucky enough to get into one of these roles,

0:24:520:24:55

how much could I potentially earn?

0:24:550:24:57

So it's generally going to range between

0:24:570:24:59

£30,000 and £42,000 per annum.

0:24:590:25:02

I think things are looking quite positive for you.

0:25:020:25:04

-Great, I appreciate that.

-Thanks very much for coming.

0:25:040:25:07

-Thanks for your time. Thank you.

-Cheers.

-Yeah, great.

0:25:070:25:09

Another good result. It's been a busy day.

0:25:090:25:12

Claire and Jason meet up to compare notes.

0:25:120:25:14

So...how did your day go?

0:25:170:25:19

It went really well, actually.

0:25:190:25:21

They said, based on my qualifications and my experience,

0:25:210:25:25

I should be able to get a job in Brisbane pretty quick.

0:25:250:25:28

They said, as an HR advisor, I'd be looking around the £50,000 mark.

0:25:280:25:32

As an HR manager, around £75,000.

0:25:320:25:37

What about you?

0:25:370:25:39

The company I went to see, very promising.

0:25:390:25:42

They told me they do have material planners, or similar jobs,

0:25:420:25:46

and their salaries range from

0:25:460:25:50

32,000 to 42,000, I think he said.

0:25:500:25:52

-Yeah, not bad.

-Yeah, I was very happy with that today.

0:25:520:25:55

It's put a much better spin on things, more positive.

0:25:550:25:57

Right, well, I guess it's time to put this to the vote.

0:25:590:26:03

So, after an intriguing works day,

0:26:030:26:05

it's now time for us to vote.

0:26:050:26:07

-Australia!

-Australia!

0:26:120:26:14

-So, need I ask?

-I think it's quite obvious, really.

0:26:160:26:20

The salary's more, the hours are roughly the same,

0:26:200:26:24

and I shouldn't have too much of a problem in getting a job here.

0:26:240:26:27

I knew all along you'd get a better salary out here.

0:26:270:26:30

It was just a question of whether my skills were transferable.

0:26:300:26:34

If I get the right job role, I could potentially double my salary.

0:26:340:26:37

I'm now back thinking that Australia is a distinct possibility,

0:26:370:26:42

whereas yesterday I was like, "I don't think this is going to work."

0:26:420:26:46

So we end on a good note, yeah?

0:26:460:26:48

-Yeah.

-Much more happier today than yesterday.

-Oh, absolutely.

0:26:480:26:52

Couldn't have gone any worse yesterday, I don't think.

0:26:520:26:55

No, it just...well, could have been bitten by a spider, I suppose.

0:26:550:26:58

So far, the Jones' trial week in Brisbane has helped clarify some of

0:27:020:27:06

the realities that may face them if they make the move.

0:27:060:27:11

And there's also been some positive and not so encouraging news.

0:27:110:27:15

Will a day experiencing the lifestyle the city has to offer

0:27:150:27:19

help tip the balance in Claire's favour and get all the family

0:27:190:27:23

onboard her Aussie ambitions?

0:27:230:27:25

A move down under is all about spending more time together in

0:27:280:27:31

the great Aussie outdoors, and what better way to do that than catching

0:27:310:27:35

the ferry for a trip down the Lazy River?

0:27:350:27:38

It's incredible to get the boys outside every day.

0:27:400:27:43

They love being outside when we're back home, but it's very limited.

0:27:430:27:46

It's lovely to be able to make plans and actually follow them through.

0:27:480:27:53

A day like this definitely makes us warm to Australia.

0:27:530:27:57

Next up, lunch.

0:27:570:27:59

But en route, they stop to take a surprise call

0:27:590:28:01

from Claire's mum and dad.

0:28:010:28:03

-Hello!

-Are you OK?

-Yeah, not too bad.

0:28:030:28:06

Yes, we've got quite a bit going on today, haven't we, boys?

0:28:060:28:10

-Mm-hmm.

-It's a busy day today.

0:28:100:28:12

-Well, that's good.

-Yeah, that is good.

0:28:120:28:15

Say, "Bye".

0:28:150:28:17

-Bye.

-Bye.

-Love you.

-Love you all.

0:28:170:28:19

Well, that was nice, wasn't it?

0:28:190:28:21

-It was nice. We like to see Nanny and Grandpa.

-Nice to see Nanny and Grandpa? Are you missing them?

0:28:210:28:25

Yeah.

0:28:250:28:26

Yeah. What about you, Claire, you missing your mother and father?

0:28:260:28:29

Yeah, it does make you realise how far away they are, doesn't it?

0:28:290:28:33

Somewhat subdued, the family head for food,

0:28:330:28:36

where Rio gets the chance to make a new friend.

0:28:360:28:39

Look at the other one!

0:28:410:28:43

Can you see the spikes on top of his head?

0:28:430:28:46

I hope he's not on the menu!

0:28:460:28:47

And, to cool down, a family fun afternoon at South Bank Parklands.

0:28:490:28:53

It's a smashing, or should that be splashing, day out for the boys.

0:28:550:29:00

Even though today's quite cloudy, it's still a warm day. It's nothing

0:29:000:29:03

that's prevented us from doing anything that we've wanted to do.

0:29:030:29:07

That's what we would be coming over for.

0:29:070:29:09

There's no other reason to leave other than lifestyle,

0:29:090:29:12

so today has been really important.

0:29:120:29:14

Seeing the children enjoy themselves so much will be a massive boost for

0:29:140:29:18

Claire's Australian dream,

0:29:180:29:20

but she's not burying her head about the negatives, too.

0:29:200:29:23

There's been quite a lot of positives in terms of work day,

0:29:230:29:27

lifestyle day, the weather.

0:29:270:29:30

But there's also been negatives, which I wasn't really expecting.

0:29:300:29:33

I think on property, there was a big blow.

0:29:330:29:36

Um... It was a bit disappointing.

0:29:360:29:40

So I'm a lot less confident in regards to the final decision as I

0:29:400:29:43

was at the beginning of the week.

0:29:430:29:46

And the phone call from home is starting to prey on her mind.

0:29:460:29:50

Leaving behind close family,

0:29:500:29:52

that will be difficult,

0:29:520:29:54

because I am an only child, and I am very close to my parents.

0:29:540:29:59

And if she's going to miss her family,

0:29:590:30:02

then that goes double for the boys.

0:30:020:30:04

Obviously they're going to miss out on the close bond that they've got

0:30:040:30:08

with their grandparents in particular.

0:30:080:30:11

The worry for me is that we uproot everyone and come over here and

0:30:110:30:14

if, you know, essentially, if you're not happy over here, then

0:30:140:30:18

all this is for nothing, all the uprooting is for nothing.

0:30:180:30:21

Despite the fun, Claire knows it's

0:30:210:30:23

all still to play for when it comes to winning over Jason.

0:30:230:30:26

I don't want a split decision.

0:30:260:30:28

I just want it one way or another, whatever that may be.

0:30:280:30:31

Definitely like to make a decision, put it to bed either way

0:30:310:30:35

and get on with the rest of our lives, so, yeah.

0:30:350:30:38

It's time to vote.

0:30:380:30:39

After a very fun lifestyle day, now we're going to vote.

0:30:390:30:42

-Australia!

-Australia!

-Australia!

-UK!

0:30:490:30:52

-Why did you vote for the UK, Row?

-I miss my family.

0:30:520:30:55

What if they came out here and came and played on the beach and that

0:30:550:30:58

with us? Would that be... Would you vote for Australia then?

0:30:580:31:01

Yeah? Well, I'm not surprised, but why did you vote for Australia?

0:31:010:31:04

It goes without saying, doesn't it?

0:31:040:31:06

The weather's lovely. We've had a really good day.

0:31:060:31:09

Um, nothing has...has dampened it.

0:31:090:31:12

I just think it's OK to live in Australia ourselves.

0:31:120:31:17

Yeah, there's no disputing it. Lifestyle day's been a good day.

0:31:170:31:20

Jason buying fully into the Aussie lifestyle is a step in the right

0:31:270:31:31

direction for Claire's dream,

0:31:310:31:33

but the couple still need to explore whether moving to the other side of

0:31:330:31:36

the world is an affordable option.

0:31:360:31:38

Part of that depends on what they

0:31:390:31:41

could sell their house in the UK for.

0:31:410:31:43

They believe it's worth around £170,000,

0:31:430:31:47

but will two local two local estate agents agree?

0:31:470:31:49

-Ready, boys?

-Yep.

-Let's go.

0:31:490:31:52

Nice, modern, clean lines. Nice tiled floor.

0:31:550:31:58

OK, so we've got the living room.

0:32:020:32:04

And obviously we've got the log-effect burner.

0:32:040:32:07

Ideal for a first-time buyer.

0:32:080:32:09

A lovely modern kitchen - very well-designed, good sitting area.

0:32:120:32:17

Very nice, well-appointed garden.

0:32:170:32:20

The grass looks nice, Jase.

0:32:200:32:21

So, the first bedroom. Clearly got a Power Rangers fan.

0:32:240:32:26

They know our lads.

0:32:260:32:28

Ideal for a child, really, or a playroom.

0:32:280:32:31

So, the second bedroom.

0:32:320:32:34

Impeccably decorated. Fantastic.

0:32:340:32:36

Bit disappointed with the size of the master bedroom.

0:32:390:32:42

It's a king-size bed.

0:32:420:32:44

But overall it's got storage and it

0:32:450:32:48

is decorated to a high standard.

0:32:480:32:51

Any buyer would feel lucky to have this bathroom.

0:32:510:32:54

I like this room.

0:32:540:32:56

I would recommend to put this

0:32:560:32:58

property on the market for £170,000.

0:32:580:33:00

You were right.

0:33:010:33:03

In today's market, I'd value the property at £170,000.

0:33:040:33:09

For a quick sale, I would value the property at £165,000.

0:33:090:33:14

Our hard work's paid off, Claire, then, hasn't it?

0:33:140:33:16

-Yeah, looks like it.

-Yeah.

0:33:160:33:19

Next, the couple compare the cost of living in Merthyr Tydfil in Wales

0:33:190:33:23

with that in Oz, starting with the weekly food shop.

0:33:230:33:27

So we've got frozen oven chips -

0:33:270:33:29

they're more expensive by 77p.

0:33:290:33:32

Ready-cooked chicken breast,

0:33:330:33:36

-£1.69...

-In the UK.

-..in the UK,

0:33:360:33:40

and that's £9.16 in Australia!

0:33:400:33:43

-We'll have to become vegetarian if we want to move out here.

-LAUGHTER

0:33:430:33:47

Bananas, £1.10 more expensive in Australia.

0:33:470:33:51

Bottles of lager, that's £6.88 more.

0:33:530:33:56

Oh, that seems a lot.

0:33:580:34:00

That's not a good start, for me.

0:34:010:34:04

It's not a good start, but it is what I expected.

0:34:040:34:06

-But double?

-Maybe not as high as double, but, yeah, higher.

0:34:060:34:11

Next, the couple move on to examine their bigger outgoings,

0:34:110:34:14

basing their figures on the dream house they viewed.

0:34:140:34:17

I did expect it to be more.

0:34:170:34:18

-On mortgage.

-Yeah, that's fine.

0:34:180:34:21

£46.82.

0:34:210:34:22

In total, the couple discover they would be spending more in Brisbane.

0:34:240:34:28

Plus...

0:34:280:34:30

-Disappointing.

-Disappointing and surprising.

0:34:300:34:33

I was expecting it to be, um,

0:34:330:34:36

a negative.

0:34:360:34:37

I wasn't expecting it to be that big a difference.

0:34:370:34:40

-Yeah.

-So, yeah, I'm pretty gutted.

0:34:400:34:44

Taking the increased earnings into account, the figure shows...

0:34:440:34:48

-That's better.

-That is better.

0:34:480:34:50

So the only way is up.

0:34:520:34:55

Or down.

0:34:550:34:57

-Up.

-Down under.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:34:570:35:00

Knowing they wouldn't lose out financially down under has reassured

0:35:050:35:08

Jason a move could be a possibility,

0:35:080:35:11

and has brought Claire one step closer to fulfilling her dream.

0:35:110:35:14

But for the family to go the full distance,

0:35:140:35:17

the emotional cost of a move has to be considered too.

0:35:170:35:20

While Rio and Rowan take more time out,

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Mum and Dad sit down to watch messages from loved ones back home.

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Are you ready for this?

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As ready as I'll ever be.

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-How about you?

-Yeah.

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Not too bad. I've kind of blocked it out up until now.

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If we can get through this part, then it's quite a big step.

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-OK. Hit play, then.

-Shall we?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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Hello, all. hope you're having a lovely time out in Australia.

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-Hiya!

-hello!

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Hiya, Jason and Claire, and Rio and Rowan.

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Hope you're having a wonderful time.

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Hello, Jason, Claire and the kids.

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Hello, Claire, Jason.

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Hi, Jason. Hi, Claire.

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Hello, my lovely boys.

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Claire is determined.

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Once she sets her mind to something, she usually achieves it.

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-"Usually". Always, I'd say!

-LAUGHTER

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He's probably one of my best friends.

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I can phone him...

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Oh, I'm getting emotional.

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I could probably phone him at any time and he'd be there for me,

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you know, and vice versa.

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As she told me, and I said, "Are you sure you want to go?

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"What are you looking for?"

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And they said, "Because we think we can give the children a better life

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"together - not only them, but us as a family."

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I'll obviously miss them a lot.

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But, like I said, if it's what's going to make them happy,

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I'm over the moon for them.

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It would be strange if she does go to Australia.

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You know, you expect, when you've been friends with somebody for that

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long, that whatever comes up in life, they'll be there.

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-So we'd have Claire missing, then, wouldn't we?

-Yeah.

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SHE SOBS

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And when I said I wasn't going to cry...

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But we will miss them.

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And they've got to get what they can out of this life,

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cos we've only got one, haven't we?

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I just can't imagine what it would be like without them, to be honest.

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She is our only daughter,

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and her, Jason

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and the two boys,

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they...they are our life.

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I don't want you to go. I miss you and I love you to bits.

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But...it's your choice at the end.

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I'll miss you. I think, uh...

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it'll be really hard not having you there,

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but...I know you're going to do the right thing

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for you and Claire and the kids,

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and...that's all you can do, really.

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I hope you make the right decision.

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Only you can do that.

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No matter what we think or what we say,

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it's your decision, and you will make the right one.

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How do you feel?

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Yeah, words of encouragement, I think.

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Was that upsetting for you, or no?

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It was upsetting to see my nan upset,

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because I know that she probably wouldn't even be able to...to visit.

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So...I don't know. It's a lot to weigh up.

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I think you've handled it better than I thought you would handle it,

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but I'm, at the same time, I don't think you were...

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-My mother didn't say a lot.

-No. They didn't get very emotional.

-SHE LAUGHS

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They sort of held it together, but...

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I think that's why my mother didn't speak.

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Yeah, so, you know, it's a lot... it's a lot to think about,

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a lot to take in.

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It'll be interesting to see how this final vote goes.

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Yeah, I don't like seeing other people emotional.

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That's difficult, that was.

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Yeah, we'll see.

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At the start of the week, Claire Jones has one mission -

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to convince husband Jason and their boys that her lifelong dream of

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moving to Australia could be their dream too.

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But for Claire, they were either all in this together or not at all.

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Now, as the family prepare to vote for a final time,

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has seeing what Brisbane has to offer done enough to secure that

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unanimous decision?

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What would YOU do?

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When the Jones arrived in Australia a week ago,

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Claire was convinced it was where her family's future lay,

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but reality has got in the way.

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-Higher.

-I really did think it was going to be an easy decision.

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It hasn't been as plain sailing as I thought it would be,

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or as much as I would have liked.

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It has been up and down. I haven't really been blown away by Australia

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yet, but I am finding it difficult

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to deny the fact, you know, deny the fact that the boys are going to have

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a better life out here.

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The trial week, meanwhile, has revealed new things about each other

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and themselves.

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I was surprised to see Jason a little bit upset.

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I wasn't expecting that at all.

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I wouldn't say I'm an emotional person, but to see others close

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to me getting emotional...

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..um, yeah, it's...it was difficult.

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Definitely difficult.

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It is hard to see, but at the same time, you know,

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we need to make a decision that's right for, for our family.

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It's always been about being a better life for the boys.

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It's just that weighing what they're going to miss emotionally

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is, you know, is worth the risk.

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And it seems the boys are conflicted, too.

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I don't know what... what I'm going to vote.

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I do know how I'm going to vote, but I'm not going to do it yet.

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So, as the last vote of the week approaches,

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it's crunch time for Claire's dream -

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and this time it's final.

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I don't know what more we can do. We've come out, we've trialled it

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for a week - there is nowhere else to go.

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We need to make a decision one way or another.

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I would like to put a final spin on it today and say Australia or UK.

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So, yeah, it's a massive decision today, massive.

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After a week of ups and downs, it's now time for the final vote.

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-Australia!

-Australia!

-Australia!

-UK!

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Rowan, how do you feel, babe?

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Because I miss all my family and my friends,

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and I love them.

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-All right.

-Aww.

-And they love you.

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If we try and get you in a school, and then you can make a lot of new

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friends, and some of your family came out here,

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will that make you happy?

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Yeah, it would be happy.

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-You'd be happy?

-That would make you happy, yeah?

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And then you may change your mind and come back to Australia to live?

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-Will that be good?

-Yeah.

-Gimme five.

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Rio. Australia, is it?

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It's sunnier here, the weather, it's just good.

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I think we should go for Australia.

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Oh, well done, sweetheart.

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I will struggle, leaving certain people behind, but at the same time,

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as long as everyone's willing to give it a go,

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-I will as well.

-I was on the verge of thinking you were going to go to

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the UK. Um, but I'm glad that this

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trial week has shown you all what

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Australia's got to offer.

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-Jones family!

-Jones family.

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Do you want to hold my hand, darling?

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-So that was an interesting day, boys.

-Yeah, that was interesting.

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-I was going to make a move, then.

-Daddy swayed!

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-I am swayed.

-Hashtag swayed!

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Having attempted to make the move to Australia twice before and failed,

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it looks like Claire's dream could be back on track.

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Whatever the family choose to do, we wish them the best of luck.

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Claire and Jason Jones from Merthyr Tydfil in South Wales have decided it is time once and for all to find out if Australia really is the land of their dreams for them and their two little boys.

Claire caught the Australian bug at an early age when her aunt emigrated as a Ten Pound Pom. She made it sound so magical that Claire's family thought about making the move themselves, twice! The first application fell at the visa hurdle, but the second time a certain gentleman got in the way! Claire had just met Jason and had fallen in love. The move was put on hold.

Up until now, it's a decision neither regrets. They've built a happy life in Wales with their two boys, a nice house and good jobs. But recently the weather and relentless lack of any sort of work/life balance has begun to get to Claire.

Australia is back on her agenda with a vengeance and she believes the time to make the move is now. Claire has just seven days to show Jason the sort of life they could have, and afford, if they located to Brisbane.