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After a painful divorce, Lindy MacEwan longs for a fresh start.

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I focus on the kids, my job and Steve,

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and that's kind of my little bubble that I live in.

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Lindy thinks moving to a new life down under could be the answer.

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New jobs, new opportunities, it's the right thing to do.

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There's just one big problem.

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Hubby, Steve, is happy with his lot in Scotland.

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We've got a nice house, we're a stone's throw away from a school,

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we've got good friends, why change it?

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A trial week in New Zealand sees Steve possibly come round to the move...

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Yeah, I could definitely see us here, like.

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..while forcing Lindy to confront her own doubts.

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He's flipped towards the, "Yeah, we'll go to New Zealand,"

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and I'm kind of like, "Well, maybe we need to think about this a wee bit more."

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This family isn't sure where their future together lies.

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With a small population, less than half of that of London,

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and over 2,000 hours of sunshine each year,

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it's no wonder New Zealand's a draw for Brits seeking a brighter future.

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But achieving the dream lifestyle on the other side of the world doesn't

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always work out, and every year many return with their dreams shattered.

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It's been her dream for years, but now Lindy MacEwan feels it's

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time to decide once and for all if New Zealand really is the land of opportunity,

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with the great outdoor lifestyle she's heard so much about.

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But it's not going to be easy to persuade her rugby mad hubby Steve

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to move, because he's more than content with his lot in Fife.

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Across one week, the MacEwans will get to see the sort of life they

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could lead and afford if they relocated down under,

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before voting on where their future lies.

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The 23-hour journey to Auckland has seen the MacEwans travel more than

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10,000 miles from Scotland, but they've taken the trip in their stride.

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I thought it wasn't too bad.

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It was long and a bit stressful with the four kids,

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but it was not too bad.

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It's been a long journey but a good journey and the grub was good, so...

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It was OK, but, like, it was quite long.

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It's the family's first time on Kiwi soil and for Lindy,

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it's been a long time coming.

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Feeling quite excited.

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We're hopeful that it's going to be good, yeah.

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We'll find out as much information as we can and then hopefully by the

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end, we'll know whether New Zealand's the place

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we need to be or not.

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This could be a better life for us.

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The only way to find that out is to do this trial week and then see if

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it's going to work for us or not.

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Hopefully it will, because it does look like a lovely country and I've

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only been in it two minutes, but just going to see how it goes.

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Looks like Steve's already smitten,

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but he's not making any promises just yet.

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I've got a successful business, I've got a good job,

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so we'd have to match that if not be better for me to consider to move to

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a different country.

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Hopefully it'll turn out the way I want it to turn out,

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but we'll soon find out.

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Fingers crossed, Lindy.

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Ahead lies a week that could change the family's lives forever.

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Meet the MacEwans.

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There's Steve and Lindy, children Niamh, aged nine, Cohen, aged five,

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Kane, who's three and baby Rain-Rose, who's just three months.

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It's second time around for both Steve and Lindy.

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The two got together seven years ago when they split from their

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respective partners.

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We started quick.

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We were together a month and Lindy with pregnant with Cohen, so...

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So it was meant to be!

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It's developed into a great relationship.

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Lindy's been dreaming of a life down under ever since she was 18.

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There's been certain points throughout my life where it's kind

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of like, I'm going to go and it's just never,

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it's just never kind of happened.

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Although he's not totally against the idea, Steve's got reservations.

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I have a good business here, I have a good job here,

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Lindy has a good job here.

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We've got a nice house, we're a stone's throw away from a school.

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We've got good friends, with our family...

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-Why change it?

-You know, he's very much if life's not broken, why fix it?

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But I don't think he kind of sees it that, well, for me it's a bit broken.

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On the surface Lindy's life appears good, but deep down she's still

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reeling from the break-up of her first marriage.

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She talks about it but then bottles it again

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and then she'll stop talking about it. She doesn't open up a lot.

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I focus on the kids and my job and Steve,

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and that's kind of my little bubble that I live in.

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I'd love her to be more outgoing and grab a bottle of wine and go to a

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friend's house or, you know, go out with the girls.

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You know, Steve does have darts, he has poker and he's got his

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disco business and all that kind of stuff.

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And I don't really...

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I don't really have anything, to be honest.

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And Lindy is convinced that a new life in New Zealand is the way forward.

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I sometimes think a total clean break, going living there,

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new jobs, new opportunities,

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loads for the kids to do, is the right thing to do.

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But a move means separating Niamh,

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Lindy's daughter from her first marriage, from her father.

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I wouldn't get to see my dad as much as I see him now.

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I'll miss having fun with him.

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I think if Niamh was to say, "Mum, I definitely don't want to go",

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then the chances are we wouldn't go, because I wouldn't leave her here, obviously.

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Oh, big sneezes!

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Then there's Steve's mum.

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She's a generous, lovely woman that will help anybody.

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She makes dinner, she's kind.

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She's helped look after the kids so that I could go back to

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work and stuff.

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Every time I speak to my mum about moving to New Zealand, she cries and

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says, "You're not taking my grandchildren away from me."

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A trial week will help the family experience the life they might have

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in New Zealand.

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It's exactly what we need to give us the decision whether we

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could or should move to New Zealand.

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This very together couple are places apart as far as a move down under is

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concerned, but Steve is supportive and for Lindy, the time is now.

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It's always been a dream of hers, and for me,

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if I can make that come true or if I can make her happy by doing it,

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then we may as well give it a go.

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Because I think if I don't do it now...

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..then we'll never do it.

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For their trial week, the MacEwans are staying in Hamilton,

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in the Waikato region of New Zealand's North Island.

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Their temporary home is a '60s style split-level house overlooking the city.

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It's spacious, nice.

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Wow, that is some view.

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-We could go out into the garden.

-Yeah, and play rugby!

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-Yeah.

-I think it looks nice, so far so good, anyway.

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Both Steve and Lindy like what they see so far.

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Even the weather seems to be onside.

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I think if we got to see, like, what it was like when the weather's

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good, that would probably kind of cement things a lot better for us.

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Hopefully change some people's minds.

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Hmm, but it seems Lindy may have already scored an early conversion.

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You can already see, even from this house,

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they've got rugby stadiums over there.

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You know, once you hit a rugby club, you're home from home,

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it's a family background.

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You know finding a pub, maybe, that's got a darts team...

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That's always a plus.

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Well, we'll do our best, Steve!

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Back in the UK, the MacEwan family live in Fife on the east coast

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of Scotland in a four bedroom mid-terrace house.

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Since we've been here, it's been great.

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Nice big gardens for the kids to play in,

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just everything's ideal for us.

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If they did make the move down under, they'd rent out their UK house.

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So if it wasn't working or if it wasn't for us,

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we'd have a great place to come back.

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The couple also plan to rent down under and have set a budget

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of £1,200 per month.

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I want a bigger kitchen because my kitchen's not big here and I

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love a big kitchen.

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With loads of storage!

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For Steve, it's all about location.

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A park nearby that I could take the boys to,

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throw a rugby ball about with.

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Cohen has a very particular request.

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A house with a clock on the top and every time you come out,

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we can check what time it is.

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And Kane and Niamh have just one thing on their wish list.

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I would like a house with a pool.

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A swimming pool in the back garden, only if we get a house with that.

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For Lindy, relocating down under isn't all about moving to a better house.

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If we can afford to have a house that's slightly bigger,

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where there's a spare room for family coming over,

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that would be great.

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However, I don't want to go over there and have to work the same here

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to effectively have a better house out there.

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We're going across there to make life a little bit better

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and easier, not make it more difficult.

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To give the family an idea of what's on offer in the rental market in

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Hamilton, we're showing them three properties,

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two on budget and one which could be their dream home.

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Their search begins in Hamilton East.

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With plenty of parks, playgrounds and shopping outlets on the

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doorstep, this suburb's a popular spot with young families,

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so it could be ideal for the MacEwans.

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What will they make of this modern Kiwi bungalow?

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-This is a bit tight.

-A small wee cul-de-sac.

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But maybe it's deceiving and the inside will be much bigger.

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Nice hallway. Small but open plan.

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Kitchen's a bit small, but that's because that's my thing.

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Not to say that it wouldn't be liveable, I suppose.

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Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

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Can we cook up any positives?

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Possibly this could be just a kitchen-dining area,

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so you could have the table and chairs in there,

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if there was another living area.

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I wouldn't want to be watching telly and still smelling the curry that I

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made the night before.

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Oh, that's a no then.

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The children head outside with a childminder

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to play with a furry friend.

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Where'd he go?

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Meanwhile, back inside, things go from bad to worse.

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If this is the living room, it is very small.

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Lindy's beginning to worry.

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If this is, like, our budget,

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then I kind of think...

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Down to earth with a bump.

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And as they move upstairs,

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how is Lindy feeling about her first New Zealand house viewing?

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It's not making me feel like, "Oh, yeah, let's move here."

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Is Steve any more convinced?

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I wouldn't move from Scotland to here in this particular house,

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because it's just, we've got better back home, so what's the point?

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Oh, dear. And things are bad when Lindy,

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who is passionately behind the move, isn't taken by the house.

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The decor and the layout and stuff like that seems to be fine,

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but it's just a little bit small for the size of our family,

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like, compared to the size of the rooms back home, so far.

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Things brighten briefly in the bathroom.

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Nice big shower for me, I could actually move in that shower.

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That bath's tiny though, you're never getting in that bath!

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No, never. I don't fit in baths normally anyway.

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You're certainly not getting in that one!

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But what about the great outdoor living New Zealand is famous for?

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Hmm, it's not happening in this garden.

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Strange drain in the middle of your garden.

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Put the trampoline in here for the kids and then that's it.

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There is no view.

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It's just house, house, house, house, house.

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I don't like that.

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Then Lindy gets the giggles.

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I just think...

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You've got to wear your Speedos in the back garden

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and nobody will see you.

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Yeah, I can wear my Speedos in the back garden, yeah.

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That's my warped mind!

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A sight to behold, I'm sure!

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Time to get serious.

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Steve and Lindy's rental budget is £1,200 per month.

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So what do you think the price per calendar month is going to be on

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-this property?

-I'd be hoping it be about 600-700.

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See, I think this would be about £800-900 a month.

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You ready for me to turn over?

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-Mm-hmm.

-Yeah.

-OK.

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£1039 per month.

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-Nah, that's unbelievable, that's unbelievable.

-Really?

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Actually somebody would pay over £1,000 a month for this.

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I think they'd be off their head!

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That's not far off the budget.

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With their day discovering Hamilton properties off to a disappointing

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start, might Lindy's window of opportunity to convince Steve that a

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life down under is for them already be firmly closed?

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Property number two is 15 minutes away in Rototuna, north of Hamilton.

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It's a popular area that attracts young affluent families wanting to

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be out of the city but close to all the amenities they need - schools,

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shops and easy access to the Hamilton highways.

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This place looks like it has it all,

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but will it impress enough to get things back on track?

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Much better. I think I feel a bit more excited.

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Very lovely. The garden looks very high maintenance but I don't mind it.

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So far, so good.

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The two double doors are quite fancy.

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-This is lovely, yeah.

-Much bigger, looks as if we've got more space for

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all six of us, plus if relatives were to come over.

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-Very nice.

-First impressions are encouraging,

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but size is a big issue with the MacEwans.

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If the boys grow up like their dad to be six foot seven,

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they'll need space, and lots of it.

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Yeah, it's a better size kitchen.

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There's plenty of space, plenty of cupboards, plenty of storage space

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for putting all my baking things and whatever in.

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Yeah, no, I like it.

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Is Lindy daring to dream again?

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Fingers crossed they'll be enough bedrooms and not massively over budget.

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Big smiles all round, and as the three bedrooms get the thumbs up,

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Steve's picking up on the positives.

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This is a more realistic place where we could live and I do like

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everything that I've seen so far, so quite excited about this house.

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-Yeah.

-But he's not completely satisfied just yet.

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If we've got one more bedroom, it's like perfect.

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And lo and behold...

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Wahey!

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-Four bedrooms, happy days.

-This would be ideal for us,

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because everybody's got what they kind of need.

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-Quite excited.

-Ticks all the boxes so far,

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I'm really happy with what we've seen.

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Although the main bathroom is a bit small,

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the optimistic outlook continues into the man cave.

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That's garage to you and me.

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Is Steve beginning to see himself at home here?

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Ah, perfect. Bar, dartboard, yeah, my area, most definitely.

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It's a garage, how excited can you possibly be about a garage?

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At least he is excited.

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New Zealand may be getting a little bit closer and the garden seems to

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-be the real deal.

-Lovely, eh?

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Looks very tropical.

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Yeah, could definitely see us here, like.

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-Speedos on!

-Other swimming trunks are available.

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Might not get away with that quite so much here, though.

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Steve is definitely running with this now,

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but he's keeping his eye firmly fixed on the ball.

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When you look at this, your concerns sort of disappear.

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-Yeah.

-But to have a house like this, we have to have foundations,

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we have to have our careers in place, we have to have our jobs,

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where we're earning the money so we can afford a place like this.

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They love the property,

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but is it within their rental budget of £1,200 per month?

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I really want this to be not too much over budget,

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because I think it will be over budget

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because it's ideal and it ticks all our boxes that we wanted.

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-Are you ready for me to turn over?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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It is...£1270 a month.

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-No way, seriously?!

-Yeah.

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This is amazing. This is like bang on budget, exactly what we want,

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ticks all the boxes.

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-Totally.

-I suppose all we've got to do now is kick the tenants out of

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-here so we can...

-Move in.

-Move in!

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Spoken like the competitive rugby player Steve once was.

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Property two has impressed and it looks like the odds on Lindy

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persuading Steve to make the move could be swinging in her favour.

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And there's still one house to go.

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Returning to Hamilton east, where their search started,

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we found what we think could be the family's dream home,

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and perfect for dad Steve,

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this four bedroom villa has two pubs within walking distance.

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Oh, this is nice.

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Look at the kitchen!

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Nice big cooker, big range cooker, really nice.

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I'm loving the kitchen.

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Look at that cooker. I could bake loads of cakes in that.

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I could totally see myself having a kitchen like this, yeah.

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And Steve is talking about it as if it's Chez MacEwans already.

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Yeah, take away the piano and put a 65 inch telly up there.

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Totally different to anything I've ever lived in before.

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-Yeah.

-It's nice, I like it.

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And then they see through the windows, a pool.

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-Oh, wow.

-Oh, my gosh!

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This is beautiful. Look at the views.

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Straight away, the pool's a massive plus.

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The Speedos would be on, definitely!

0:19:050:19:06

-Definitely!

-No, there would be no Speedos.

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-Yeah.

-No!

-I think this is the house.

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And does this make you want to move to New Zealand?

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I would say, "Yeah," for the swimming pool in the back garden

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and a nice big house, and, "No," because I want to stay with my dad, so...

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A first indication there of the emotional pull from home.

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Back indoors, the main bedroom is on the ground floor.

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Big double wardrobes.

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High ceilings, super king-size bed.

0:19:370:19:39

-I love it.

-And then you've got the balcony as well.

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Trying not to get too excited and be like, "I want this house,

0:19:430:19:47

"I want this house," and then it's like totally off the scale and not

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necessarily possible.

0:19:510:19:54

But for now, this is proving to be the dream house and even the

0:19:550:19:59

bathroom is a perfect fit.

0:19:590:20:01

-Yeah, but that's what you...

-I love baths like that,

0:20:020:20:04

like the old-fashioned roll-top baths.

0:20:040:20:06

Yeah, I might actually fit in that bath.

0:20:060:20:09

-It's way bigger than our bathroom at home, way, way bigger.

-Yeah.

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They explore more and find this is a house that keeps on giving.

0:20:130:20:17

Room after room registers a plus, but what about the garage?

0:20:180:20:23

Garages are for man caves, not for cars.

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So the kids have got a pool, you've got a man cave.

0:20:270:20:29

-You've got your big kitchen.

-And then when youse are all out there,

0:20:290:20:32

I could just sit in the house in peace and quiet.

0:20:320:20:34

-Yeah.

-Sounds good to me.

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So that's everyone sorted, then.

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And this property's glorious garden gives a glimpse of a picture perfect

0:20:390:20:43

lifestyle that has just one cloud on the horizon.

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So I wonder how much this is going to be over budget.

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Do you think this is going to be a lot over budget

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or maybe just a couple of hundred pounds?

0:20:530:20:56

Beginning to sound as if you really care, Steve.

0:20:560:20:59

I reckon it's going to be in around £1800-£2000.

0:20:590:21:03

I'd go with that, I'd say probably nearer the 2,000.

0:21:030:21:08

-Yeah. Any of you ready to flip it over?

-Yeah.

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£1,500 per month.

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That's a lot cheaper than I thought.

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£300 more than Steve and Lindy had allocated,

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but a lot less than expected.

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Could they stretch their budget, and if so, which house would they go for?

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Property two and property three are probably both within a budget that we would...

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..we would be able to manage, definitely.

0:21:370:21:40

The MacEwans' property search started slowly but ended on a real high.

0:21:400:21:45

Property one wasn't for them at all.

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It felt too cramped for this larger than life family.

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And being right on budget was a big disappointment for Lindy,

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her expectations plummeted.

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House number two lifted their spirits.

0:21:570:21:59

Lindy and Steve loved the open plan layout and abundance of light

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flooding the house. It ticked all the boxes and was within budget.

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Could things get any better?

0:22:080:22:11

For Lindy they did with the dream house, with spectacular views,

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fab kitchen, four bedrooms and a pool,

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it seemed a perfect pad for the MacEwans.

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It was over budget, but not as much as they'd feared.

0:22:200:22:23

So based on all they've learned,

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will the family choose property in the UK or New Zealand?

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New Zealand.

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Well, Niamh has yet to be convinced,

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but Steve's off and running and Lindy's on course.

0:22:420:22:46

House number two and this one are pretty phenomenal for what the price is.

0:22:460:22:51

A £1,500 house in Scotland,

0:22:510:22:54

you could not get something like this with a pool in the back garden.

0:22:540:22:56

No, definitely not.

0:22:560:22:58

Steve's vote for New Zealand is a great start to the week for Lindy,

0:23:010:23:04

but she knows it's a long game and everything's still to play for.

0:23:040:23:08

So for her dream to become a reality,

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they'll both need to find jobs that will enable them to pay for it.

0:23:110:23:15

Back in the UK, Lindy's a nurse.

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I'm dual registered, so I could be a general nurse or

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work as a mental health nurse.

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I've got a nurse prescribing qualification,

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so I can prescribe medication as well.

0:23:250:23:27

Quite a lot of experience in different areas.

0:23:280:23:31

So there's always kind of loads of issues that come with it,

0:23:320:23:34

but I do enjoy being a nurse.

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I couldn't imagine being anything else now.

0:23:360:23:39

Lindy's hoping she'll be earning more but working less in New Zealand.

0:23:400:23:44

I'm led to believe nurses are kind of paid a bit better over in

0:23:460:23:49

New Zealand than they are here in the UK.

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So I'm hoping that going over there, working part-time,

0:23:520:23:55

there won't be a massive drop in my wage,

0:23:550:23:58

or at least if I had to work a full-time job,

0:23:580:24:02

the work-life balance is better.

0:24:020:24:04

Steve works in the prison service helping rehabilitate offenders.

0:24:050:24:09

I like helping people and understand that if I can stop somebody from

0:24:100:24:15

reoffending and going out into the communities and making a safer

0:24:150:24:19

Scotland, then I'm doing my job.

0:24:190:24:22

Steve also has his own mobile disco,

0:24:220:24:24

which he loves and brings in a bit of extra income.

0:24:240:24:26

I have the equipment, I'm ready to go with that.

0:24:260:24:30

It could be an option.

0:24:300:24:32

He's also wondering if early retirement is on the New Zealand cards.

0:24:320:24:37

Over here, we have to work until we're 68-years-old.

0:24:370:24:39

If I could retire in New Zealand at 55,

0:24:390:24:42

then it's going to be a better lifestyle straightaway.

0:24:420:24:44

The couple set off to explore their work opportunities in New Zealand.

0:24:460:24:51

First up, Lindy meets Carol Kennedy,

0:24:510:24:53

the Director of Nursing at a busy hospital in downtown Hamilton.

0:24:530:24:57

Carol has read Lindy's CV and is very quick to make encouraging noises.

0:24:590:25:03

We have a number of services and I see that you've done quite a bit in

0:25:040:25:08

your time as a nurse, so there's lots of opportunities.

0:25:080:25:11

With the skill set that I've got,

0:25:110:25:12

what kind of earning potential would I have,

0:25:120:25:14

in relation to coming over here and working as a nurse here?

0:25:140:25:17

You'd be graded at Grade 5, so you'd start at £35,000.

0:25:170:25:24

-OK.

-Yep.

-Sounds good!

0:25:240:25:27

That £6,000 more than she earns in Scotland.

0:25:270:25:30

A lot more than I earn back home.

0:25:300:25:32

So could she get a job in New Zealand?

0:25:320:25:35

Absolutely doable. I would encourage you to e-mail me directly,

0:25:350:25:38

because I've got contacts.

0:25:380:25:39

Now I've met you, I've got a sense of who you are and then what I'll do

0:25:390:25:43

is I'll flick out your CVs.

0:25:430:25:44

-But, of course, we want you to come to the Waikato. Yeah.

-Yeah!

0:25:440:25:49

So a very positive outcome for Lindy and the CEO of the hospital is keen

0:25:490:25:54

to meet her, too, as guess what...?

0:25:540:25:56

He's a fellow Fifer.

0:25:560:25:58

-I'm originally from Kirkcaldy.

-Wow, that's where I grew up.

0:25:580:26:01

-So which part?

-Derek and his family moved in 1992,

0:26:010:26:04

and New Zealand now feels very much like home.

0:26:040:26:07

Everything that we kind of loved about Scotland that had now gone,

0:26:070:26:11

was here. There's a lot of technology here, but they kind of,

0:26:110:26:15

I guess the way you live just feels like how we used to live back in Scotland.

0:26:150:26:19

So my kids settled really quickly.

0:26:190:26:21

Although Scotland's always home, I'd never go back and live there,

0:26:210:26:24

-I don't think.

-I feel quite excited.

0:26:240:26:25

You've got quite a strong background, I've seen your CV.

0:26:250:26:28

-Yeah.

-So I think you'd have real good opportunities.

0:26:280:26:30

Lovely, sounds good.

0:26:300:26:32

Lindy's feeling good about the day but cautiously concerned.

0:26:320:26:35

Everything depends on how Steve is getting on.

0:26:350:26:38

He's visiting Spring Hill Prison,

0:26:380:26:40

where he meets expat Prison Director, Chris Lightbown.

0:26:400:26:44

Steve is keen to find out how he found the big move to New Zealand.

0:26:450:26:49

My advice to you would be try not to overcomplicate it,

0:26:510:26:54

because the more you think about it,

0:26:540:26:55

there's 110 reasons why you wouldn't make the move.

0:26:550:26:58

Fantastic place to bring up children, great outdoor lifestyle,

0:26:580:27:02

good standard of living and you could have that.

0:27:020:27:04

I think it's a great place to live.

0:27:040:27:06

If I could offer you one piece of advice,

0:27:060:27:09

it would be think about ten things you're going to miss and then

0:27:090:27:12

completely forget about them.

0:27:120:27:14

I struggle to think about three!

0:27:140:27:16

Next, the facts and figures from recruitment officer Kate Forsyth and

0:27:170:27:21

Steve's keen to find out the process for getting a job.

0:27:210:27:24

The first part is completing the online psychometric assessment

0:27:240:27:30

and then we would invite you to an assessment centre.

0:27:300:27:33

That gives us the opportunity to see you in action.

0:27:330:27:36

So once you're through them, what do you have to do once you pass that?

0:27:360:27:40

The actual full training for a corrections officer in

0:27:400:27:43

New Zealand is 12 weeks.

0:27:430:27:44

What's the starting salary like?

0:27:440:27:46

When you start on your training, it's £26,000,

0:27:460:27:50

then once you graduate, it goes up to £27,000.

0:27:500:27:55

That's less than he earns in the UK and along with the stringent

0:27:550:27:58

recruitment and training process, it's definitely a knock-back,

0:27:580:28:02

although there are promotion opportunities.

0:28:020:28:05

But what about Steve's other key concern?

0:28:050:28:07

What's the pension age that you would retire at?

0:28:070:28:09

The retirement age is 65, yeah, yeah.

0:28:090:28:13

In saying that, we've still have a few officers that are sticking

0:28:130:28:17

around and we've got, I think, a couple that even up to the 70 mark.

0:28:170:28:20

-Is it?

-The jobs are that good here, that they don't want to go anywhere!

0:28:200:28:23

Yeah, that sounds good.

0:28:230:28:25

Retirement isn't as early as Steve had hoped,

0:28:250:28:27

so there's plenty to ponder.

0:28:270:28:29

OK, thanks very much. It's very good to have that sort of knowledge

0:28:290:28:32

now and understanding more about the job, thank you.

0:28:320:28:35

Thank you.

0:28:350:28:37

Steve and Lindy meet up to share their news.

0:28:370:28:40

-Hi, babe.

-Hi.

0:28:400:28:41

How'd you get on at your job, then?

0:28:410:28:44

Aye, it was really good. I'd be starting off,

0:28:440:28:46

I think it was roughly about £35,000.

0:28:460:28:49

The career progression's much better.

0:28:490:28:52

I really enjoyed it and I'm quite excited about the prospects of

0:28:520:28:56

-working over here.

-That's great.

-What about you?

0:28:560:28:58

Good. The facilities that the prisoners have over here are second to none.

0:28:590:29:04

My only concern is I'm starting at the bottom again,

0:29:040:29:07

so lesser wages for me than what I get back home.

0:29:070:29:10

But then I suppose you've got to think about why we're wanting to

0:29:100:29:13

-move here.

-Yeah, that's not to say that I wouldn't,

0:29:130:29:16

-but it's still that wee bit of doubt in my mind.

-Right.

0:29:160:29:19

I wonder which way this vote will go.

0:29:190:29:23

So, after finding out about our jobs today, our vote goes to...

0:29:230:29:27

-New Zealand.

-Undecided.

0:29:340:29:36

My only concern is starting at the bottom again and lesser wages.

0:29:370:29:42

The job itself would be good.

0:29:420:29:44

Well, I'm picking New Zealand because my career prospects are way

0:29:440:29:48

better, earning potential is way better, so go get the kids,

0:29:480:29:51

see what the next few days have got to bring and hopefully that might

0:29:510:29:54

sway you a bit more.

0:29:540:29:56

Halfway through their trial week,

0:30:000:30:03

and the MacEwan jury is still undecided.

0:30:030:30:05

We have no idea whether Lindy and Steve are going to get

0:30:050:30:10

a unanimous verdict on where this family's future lies.

0:30:100:30:14

What is certain is that with

0:30:140:30:16

the all-important financial reality check

0:30:160:30:19

and messages from home still to come,

0:30:190:30:22

things are bound to get more tense before a decision is made.

0:30:220:30:27

First, though, can a family day out in the great New Zealand outdoors

0:30:270:30:31

get Lindy's dream back on track?

0:30:310:30:34

-See, she's got little claws as well?

-Yeah.

0:30:350:30:38

The MacEwans start the day with a visit to Hamilton Zoo.

0:30:380:30:41

Kids are enjoying themselves.

0:30:410:30:43

As I say, we get to kind of spend time together as a family,

0:30:430:30:47

so hopefully, you know, the kids getting to do this,

0:30:470:30:49

and Steve kind of being involved as well will kind of cement everything together.

0:30:490:30:53

Enjoying warm winter weather,

0:30:530:30:55

the family head off to Ruakuri Caves

0:30:550:30:57

and an emotional reunion with an old friend of Steve's.

0:30:570:31:01

It's been over ten years since Steve's seen his old flatmate

0:31:030:31:06

and rugby buddy Jay.

0:31:060:31:08

-Looking well.

-Yeah, you are too.

0:31:080:31:10

THEY LAUGH

0:31:100:31:12

This is Lindy.

0:31:120:31:14

-Hello, how are you?

-I'm good, how are you?

-Good.

0:31:140:31:17

-Sorry, what's your name?

-Hi. Lindy.

0:31:170:31:19

Hi, Lindy, I'm Tammy.

0:31:190:31:21

-Hiya.

-Nice to meet you.

0:31:210:31:22

You're smiling, hello!

0:31:220:31:24

Well, the parents have hit it off. Now the children bond, Kiwi-style.

0:31:240:31:29

Lindy's spell on the bench allows her to compare notes on New Zealand

0:31:330:31:37

and set out her game plan.

0:31:370:31:39

So how's it all going anyway?

0:31:390:31:41

-I'm loving it.

-Yeah?

-Yeah, I really like it. I would move here tomorrow, I think.

0:31:420:31:48

And Jay applies his powers of persuasion to sway Steve.

0:31:480:31:51

And a bit of alfresco dining ends a perfect day.

0:31:520:31:56

Everything just gelled in and it was like perfect,

0:31:560:31:59

you know, the kids and that all mingling with the other kids around.

0:31:590:32:03

So I hope that they do come over because...really good people,

0:32:030:32:07

and awesome to be a part of my life.

0:32:070:32:08

It's great to have that sort of...

0:32:080:32:10

..know that you're not going over and knowing nobody,

0:32:100:32:13

not having a social network, so it's good to have that friendship.

0:32:130:32:16

So, Steve, let's put this in rugby terms.

0:32:180:32:21

Has the move to New Zealand been kicked into touch

0:32:210:32:24

or has this fun family day ended with a late conversion?

0:32:240:32:28

So, after a great day out today at the zoo, meeting up with Jay,

0:32:280:32:32

seeing what New Zealand's got to offer us from a leisure point of view,

0:32:320:32:35

the MacEwan family are voting for...

0:32:350:32:37

-ALL:

-New Zealand!

0:32:430:32:46

Yeah, New Zealand!

0:32:460:32:49

Really good, cos yesterday was a bit more like...don't really know,

0:32:490:32:52

from your perspective, as to whether you'd want to do it or not.

0:32:520:32:55

Yeah, I mean, you look straightaway at the weather and then coming out,

0:32:550:32:59

having fun, costing hardly any money for us all to have great fun,

0:32:590:33:03

and Cohen's not stuck in house playing Xbox,

0:33:030:33:06

he's actually out enjoying himself, which is great to see.

0:33:060:33:09

A full house for New Zealand is a real boost for Lindy,

0:33:130:33:16

but a new life down under has to make financial sense.

0:33:160:33:19

Can they afford it?

0:33:190:33:21

The couple plan to rent out their home back in the UK

0:33:210:33:23

but think it would sell for around £105,000.

0:33:230:33:27

To see if they're right, we sent two estate agents round to find out.

0:33:270:33:31

Oh, no.

0:33:370:33:39

Nice fence.

0:33:390:33:40

Nice family lounge, spacious.

0:33:410:33:45

Look how tidy my house is.

0:33:450:33:47

Opening out into the dining area,

0:33:470:33:50

which...ideal for today's families.

0:33:500:33:55

Modern fitted kitchen, integrated appliances, excellent selling point.

0:33:550:33:59

Nice family bathroom upstairs.

0:34:010:34:03

You've also got the shower room downstairs,

0:34:030:34:05

which is a three-piece - completely ideal for today's busy families.

0:34:050:34:10

This is the big selling point of this property,

0:34:100:34:12

this is a fourth bedroom. This is what makes this property different

0:34:120:34:15

from the threes and the twos - is the fact you've got

0:34:150:34:18

this fantastic master bedroom. And with the built-in storage,

0:34:180:34:21

that gives you even additional space and really makes it a first-class

0:34:210:34:24

selling point for this property.

0:34:240:34:26

In today's market I'd value this property at £110,000,

0:34:260:34:30

and for a quick sale, I'd put on the market...offers over £105,000.

0:34:300:34:34

In today's market I'd be looking to put the property on at £110,000.

0:34:340:34:38

Working towards a quick sale, I'd be looking to market it at £105,000.

0:34:380:34:43

If the owners wanted to rent the property,

0:34:430:34:44

I would suggest a rental value of £650 per calendar month.

0:34:440:34:48

If the clients decided to rent the property out,

0:34:480:34:51

they can achieve between £575-£600 per calendar month.

0:34:510:34:56

That was all right, yeah.

0:34:580:34:59

The whole putting it on at 105, I was a bit like, "What?"

0:34:590:35:03

They said for quick sale, but we know the houses go quick

0:35:030:35:06

and four bedrooms in that area are like...

0:35:060:35:08

-Gold dust.

-Aye, so...

0:35:080:35:10

-No, I'm quite happy with that, actually.

-Yeah.

0:35:100:35:13

The valuations are good news, but will bills breach the budget?

0:35:150:35:19

Lindy and Steve compare the costs of living in New Zealand with the UK.

0:35:190:35:23

It's like treble the price.

0:35:230:35:26

Chicken breasts are slightly more expensive.

0:35:260:35:29

Everything's pretty much a bit more expensive.

0:35:290:35:32

So the weekly grocery bill is...

0:35:320:35:34

£142.84.

0:35:340:35:38

50 quid dearer.

0:35:380:35:40

I wouldn't grumble over an extra 50 quid a week.

0:35:400:35:43

But adding in the other household bills makes matters worse.

0:35:430:35:46

The difference on that would be...

0:35:470:35:49

..£714.21.

0:35:500:35:53

Over £700 per month worse off is significant, but what about incomes?

0:35:530:35:58

So there's obviously a big difference in mine,

0:35:580:36:01

but that's cos I'm starting at the bottom again.

0:36:010:36:03

But that wouldn't be like that for long. What you're kind of losing,

0:36:030:36:07

-I'm...

-Gaining.

-..making.

0:36:070:36:08

Steve's income does go down whilst Lindy's increases,

0:36:080:36:12

so where does that leave them overall?

0:36:120:36:15

£5,210.52 a year worse off in New Zealand.

0:36:150:36:22

And that's not taking into consideration flights to go home.

0:36:220:36:26

-Yeah.

-If we ever afford to move here, would we never,

0:36:270:36:30

ever go back to Scotland again, like?

0:36:300:36:32

It wouldn't be a yearly event, no.

0:36:320:36:34

It would be for Niamh.

0:36:340:36:35

But Steve's still looking on the bright side.

0:36:350:36:38

So, final thoughts, it doesn't look good on paper but that's because

0:36:380:36:41

I'm starting at the bottom of my wages again.

0:36:410:36:44

Within a year or two years, then I'd be better off by £8,000.

0:36:440:36:50

If I bring my business over here as well,

0:36:500:36:52

Big Stevie's Discos could be working in New Zealand and I could be

0:36:520:36:55

earning that to make up the difference anyway.

0:36:550:36:57

Steve and Lindy are doing their best to cast a favourable light

0:36:570:37:00

on a disappointing outcome.

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It's vote time and things are far from clear that Lindy's dream

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of a new life in New Zealand would be affordable.

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-UK.

-Undecided.

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UK? Never thought you'd do that!

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Well, based on what it says on paper, we're going to be...

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-Worse off.

-Which is bizarre,

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given it's me that's like, "I want to move to New Zealand."

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Time is running out for Steve and Lindy to make

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one of the most important decisions their lives.

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So, it's a first upset of the week and there could be plenty more,

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because the MacEwans are settling down to watch messages

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from loved ones back home. The children say they want to watch,

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but almost immediately Lindy is upset.

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And little Niamh finds it tough seeing her mummy cry.

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-Hi, Steve, Lindy and kids.

-Hi, Stevie, hi, Lindy.

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Hi, guys, I hope you're all having fun over there and it's everything

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you thought it would be.

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You couldn't probably match two better people.

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Fantastic kids.

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You know, full of life, full of fun, full of mischief as well.

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They're like friends as well. They're quite close.

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-Oh, yeah.

-They're like best friends kind of thing,

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as well as being husband and wife.

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Lindy's a very loving, caring person. Um...

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She's a good daughter,

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everything a mother could want.

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She's always there when I need advice.

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If I pop round, she'll make me a cup of coffee, a bit of cake.

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He's as genuine as they come, what you see is what you get.

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Just a big, lovely cuddly guy.

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He would do anything to help you.

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Well, there's Niamh. She's ten this year.

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I've got a really good bond with her.

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We do a lot of girlie stuff, like nails and, you know, chat,

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snuggle up, and she's always trying to pinch my phone.

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The kids are my life.

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I look after them

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and I've brought the two boys up so far and I'm going to get upset.

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But I don't want them to go.

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The minuses for them going is I'll need to get a new minibus driver

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for a Friday night, but the pluses are we'll have four spare pies

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on a Friday night!

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STEVE LAUGHS

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I'm used to her being round the corner. It won't be the same

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if she's not here.

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Oh, yeah, I'll be devastated if she goes, but, at the same time,

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I want her to have a better lifestyle.

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It's what they've always wanted to do.

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I think the kids will adjust very easily to life in New Zealand

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and, yeah, I just look forward to going over and visiting them,

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to be honest.

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I love you all, and if you decide to go to New Zealand,

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I don't want you to worry about me.

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I want you to do what's right for you and for the kids.

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The family's faces say it all.

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Those heartfelt messages are going to be hard to ignore.

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At the start of their trial week,

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Lindy's task was to convince husband Steve and family that moving

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to New Zealand would give them a much longed-for fresh start.

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Steve, however, needed to be convinced that the reality

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matched Lindy's expectations, but after the week,

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have the tables turned?

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Is it now Steve who's pushing for the move, with Lindy having doubts?

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It's time for the final vote.

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As they pick up the cards, how are they going to spin?

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Which would YOU plump for - bold New Zealand or bonnie Scotland?

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Their time down under has opened Steve's eyes to the possibility

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of life in New Zealand.

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This trial week has been amazing. It's given us a good insight.

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The week's gone down well with the children.

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It's been really good, yeah.

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I like it.

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I like to go to the park and the zoo.

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Then, of course, there's one thing they just can't ignore -

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those they would leave behind.

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I think the kids more reacted cos Lindy started crying

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before it even started, so I think their expectation of it was going

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to be worse than actually what it was.

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The financial checks hit home hard too.

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We're £5,000 a year better off in the UK,

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but New Zealand is New Zealand and the UK is the UK -

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they're two totally different countries.

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The trial week could see the tables turning.

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I can see the future here.

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It's kind of like he's flipped towards the, "Yeah, we'll go to New Zealand."

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And I'm kind of like, "Well, maybe we need to think about this a wee bit more."

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As the final vote approaches...

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I have been undecided on two and I have been with New Zealand with two.

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I'm not too sure what I'm going to vote yet.

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I don't know that I'm really sure myself at the moment, so...

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Time for the family vote.

0:41:560:41:58

After a fantastic week in New Zealand, seeing a lot,

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learning a lot, the MacEwan vote goes to...

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-New Zealand.

-UK!

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-Undecided.

-Undecided as well.

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I think that we've still got loads to sort out and I think if I said

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one or the other, I'd be committing myself already when I think

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we still have to discuss.

0:42:280:42:30

Most of my family's back home, and like...

0:42:300:42:33

But New Zealand's a nice place, so I'm just undecided.

0:42:330:42:38

I still went with New Zealand, cos as much as everything

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you're saying's right, I think we could still make it work.

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At the end of the week their votes revert to type.

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Steve remains unsure of a move,

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Lindy believes they can make it.

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There's going to be a lot of discussion on the long flight back to Scotland,

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and whether the MacEwans make the trip to New Zealand once again

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is anybody's guess at the moment, but whatever they decide to do,

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wherever they choose to call home,

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we wish, of course, Steve, Lindy and all the children the very best.

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