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Having survived challenging times,

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Gavin Stockley's convinced a fresh start down under

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is what his family needs.

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I'm passionate that I think it could be a wonderful thing for all of us.

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But getting wife Amy on board could be harder than he thinks.

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It needs to show me that we can achieve something better

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than what we've got in the UK.

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If it doesn't, then we're not going.

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A trial week in Melbourne reveals what life could be like.

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If we moved into a house like this,

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I'd be going to Australia in a heartbeat.

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But when it comes to the crunch,

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will the thought of leaving loved ones be too much to bear?

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I'm absolutely blown away that I'm even this torn.

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Ultimately, I have to choose one or the other.

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The sixth largest country on Earth,

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Australia accounts for 5% of the world's landmass,

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stretching for 2,500 miles, from east coast to west.

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But with just over a third of the population of the UK,

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there's plenty of room for the 35,000 Brits

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that head down under every year

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hoping to make the country their new home.

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But it isn't idyllic for everyone.

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Almost half of those who move return back to the UK,

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their dreams shattered.

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Gavin and Amy Stockley from Hampshire

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have had a traumatic couple of years

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that's convinced them it might be time to move down under.

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But they'll be leaving a lot behind if they do.

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Across a trial week in Australia,

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they will get to see where they might live,

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what they can afford and the jobs they could get if they emigrated.

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Then, at the end, they'll come to a final decision and vote.

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The family's trial week begins with an epic journey

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from London via Dubai to Melbourne.

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And it's beginning to sink in just how far from home they are.

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The journey was long.

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Mentally draining. And really you do appreciate

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you've come halfway around the world.

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It felt like it was lasting forever.

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I'm pleased to be off the plane, I have to say.

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And Gavin's only too aware of what's at stake in the coming week.

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It's really, really vital.

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I'm just hopeful this week is everything that we imagine it's going to be,

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and really looking forward to getting started.

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But there's a long way to go before the whole family commits to making

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it a permanent move.

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I think Dad will have to convince me quite a lot to move here.

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Dad could be able to convince me to move,

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but it might take quite an effort.

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If it doesn't come off this week, it doesn't come off.

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No pressure, Gavin!

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As the family head out into Melbourne,

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he knows the next seven days will be

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his best shot of the life he's been dreaming of.

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Meet the Stockleys -

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their dad, Gavin,

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mum, Amy, Madison, aged 12, and Cohen, who's ten.

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As a family, they're a tight unit,

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hardly surprising given they've had

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to endure more than their fair share of difficult times.

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Five years ago, mum Amy was involved in a collision whilst driving

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their young son, Cohen.

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Although they both escaped major physical injury,

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the incident left her badly shaken.

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It was more psychological, really,

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that I'd been in a car with my son

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and this terrible thing had happened.

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And just ten months later, this time driving alone,

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history repeated itself.

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The driver behind me wasn't paying attention.

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Myself and the driver in front were stationary,

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so she hit us going 40mph.

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It was noise, there was glass flying around,

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I was in loads of pain.

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The fire service had to cut the roof off the car to get me out.

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Amy suffered multiple neck and back injuries,

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and the next few years became a living nightmare.

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Procedures, physios, injections, lack of sleep.

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The impact on our life was enormous.

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At first, Amy battled through on a constant diet of painkillers

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and sleeping tablets. But it soon took its toll.

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I didn't realise just how low and how empty

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I'd got to until I hit that point where I couldn't function.

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She, at one stage, did have a sort of a breakdown,

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and that was tough.

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As a husband and partner and provider,

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I felt that I'd let her down because

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I didn't see that coming in quite the significant way that it did.

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As Amy began the slow road to recovery,

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Gavin began to feel the strain.

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The magnitude of everything we had been through over that past

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12 or 18 months struck me hard.

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So I went into my own depression.

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This difficult time was compounded

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by the tragedy of the sudden death of

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two of his closest friends.

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You lose people your age that are seemingly fit, healthy and well,

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it makes you realise how incredibly fragile it all is.

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It really shook Gavin's purpose for living, if I'm honest.

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I really did start to, as I say, reach my lowest ebb

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and wonder what it was all about, really.

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It took some time, but the couple began to rebuild their lives.

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Determined to put the past behind them,

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Gavin has resolved to set his sights on brighter and hotter horizons.

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He decided that life is for living

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and was no longer happy with being,

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as he describes it, in the rat race.

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The dream for me of Australian life is about having more time to spend

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with the family, getting that real work-life balance,

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where I don't feel that I'm driving to work in the dark,

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coming home in the cold and the wet.

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Through everything that's happened

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it's kind of created a want in me to not

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miss opportunities, but to really go and chase them.

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While Amy understands what a move could mean for all of them,

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for her, the decision to uproot and start again

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in a country they've never even visited can't be taken lightly.

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I love the idea of being outdoors with the kids,

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being in a warm climate.

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The opportunity for the children, I think, is great over there.

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But do you give everything up in pursuit of that?

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Amy's got valid concerns, and I totally accept those.

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And I share those, in fairness.

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-Obviously I don't want to be uprooting my family...

-But you want to go anyway!

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No, I don't want to uproot the family and take them, regardless.

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But, as I say, I'm passionate that

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I think it could be a wonderful thing for all of us.

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She is also worried about cutting off the strong

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support network of those who helped her through the tough times.

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To be honest, without them I don't know how I would have got through.

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And having them on the doorstep is...

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..is enormous to me.

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It's been my lifeline, really.

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And Gavin's also aware of the emotional cost involved.

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The prospect of taking Madison and Cohen so far away and away

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from their grandparents is a tough one.

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I do feel guilty about that.

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But getting the children on board with the idea of moving to the other

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side of the world may take some work.

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We get a mixed reception from the kids.

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Sometimes they seem keen to pursue it, other times, more regularly,

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they're quite averse to the idea.

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At the moment I don't really want to move just because I don't want to

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leave all my friends and family.

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I feel like we would have a lot more time as a family together.

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But then other times I think I'm really happy

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with the friends that I've got,

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and I don't want to, like, leave them all behind.

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Nevertheless, Gavin is more convinced than ever

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it's where his family's future lies.

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Through all the hard times,

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what has happened is that we've become stronger than ever.

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We will be strong enough to make a new life and really make it work.

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But Amy is adamant that the week ahead will have to provide the right answers.

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It needs to show me that we can achieve something better

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than we've got in the UK.

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If it doesn't, then we're not going.

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The Stockleys are spending their trial week in Melbourne,

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capital of Victoria, on Australia's south coast.

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The city plays host to almost a million

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international visitors each year.

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Their temporary base for the week is in the eastern suburb of Ashburton.

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What will Amy make of her first taste of Aussie living?

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Wow!

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It's really modern.

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I'm just grateful to have landed, to be fair.

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Time for a pick me up then!

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And with a cup of tea in hand, the Stockleys take stock.

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It feels really surreal that we're here.

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It's almost starting to feel real that we're actually doing it.

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There's an awful lot riding on this week and it's going to be exciting,

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I think. Hopefully it's all worth it for you.

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We'll know one way or the other, we'll get some answers.

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And let's hope it's Australia.

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-We'll see!

-THEY LAUGH

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Back in the UK, the Stockleys live near Portsmouth,

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on the south coast of England,

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in a three-bedroom detached house.

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Since buying the property three years ago,

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they've worked hard to make it a place they're proud to call home.

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We've put everything we've had into this house.

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There's not a room that we haven't started from scratch with.

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Blood, sweat and tears have gone into it.

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I think it'd be really emotional, actually, to walk away.

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However, with a budget of £320,000 for a home down under,

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Amy knows exactly what she wants.

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It has to be light and airy, it has offer space for us.

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We've got two children that aren't little any more,

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so they come with an array of stuff.

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Including a wish list for Madison.

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I would love a pool.

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And I really want, like, a walk-in wardrobe in my bedroom.

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And Gavin is well aware that Australian homes

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will have to impress.

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If you don't fall in love with some sort of property out there within budget,

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I think that's going to be the one thing that Amy says,

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"It's not going to be happening."

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No.

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To give the Stockleys an idea of what's available in Melbourne,

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we'll show them three houses.

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Two on budget and one which could be their dream home.

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First stop is the suburb of Langwarrin.

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With plenty of schools, parks and shops on the doorstep,

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it's a family-friendly area.

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Will this spacious four-bedroom home fulfil the Stockleys' needs?

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-I really like it.

-It feels far more rural and stuff, doesn't it?

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-It's lovely.

-Yeah.

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Things are off to a positive start.

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-High ceilings.

-Wow!

-That's nice, isn't it?

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I definitely like the idea of us having more of an open-plan family space.

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I could see us living here.

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-You'll find me at the bar!

-THEY LAUGH

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This is so cool.

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It's great, isn't it? I do love this.

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It's a really special sort of space.

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For those friends we won't have!

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Oh, ouch! Just when things were going so well.

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-Hmm.

-I don't really like it.

-I really like the space.

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-The kitchen is not my taste.

-No, same.

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Are things getting any more positive outside?

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-Hmm.

-There's no grass.

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Not quite the garden of our dreams, is it?

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-No.

-No.

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It's not really what I'd want to be able to, like, play football.

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Oh, dear.

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Back indoors though, things return to a more positive note.

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-Wow!

-Whoa.

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You definitely can't say there's not enough space.

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-It's a big space, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-That's plenty big enough.

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The bed looks like it's barely taking up any room.

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-It's massive, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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And an en-suite is always a bonus, right?

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Obviously, we've not got an en-suite at home.

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-It'd be a nice thing to have.

-It definitely needs updating.

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Well, Madison is definitely pleased with her bedroom.

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-It's got a wardrobe.

-Oh, a built-in wardrobe.

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-Mads is happy.

-This is literally, like, my dream bedroom.

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Imagine on a nice day lying on your bed,

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doing your homework, looking out there.

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-It'd be cool, wouldn't it?

-That'd actually be so nice.

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You can but dream, I guess.

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However, Cohen is not quite so excited about his.

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It's quite small.

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The two things that I'd mainly use would be my room and the garden and

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both are quite a bit of a let down.

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-Not good enough for you?

-Yeah.

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That's all right.

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With mixed reactions to this property,

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is it somewhere the family would relocate half a world away for?

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It's a really nice house. I think it's missing a few features

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-that are really important to us moving.

-Yeah, I agree.

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I'm thinking 300,000.

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OK. I'm thinking it might be slightly over that.

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Maybe 310. What you think, Maddy?

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I reckon about 300.

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Probably around £310,000.

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Let's a look.

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The Stockleys have a budget of £320,000.

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Oh! That's quite disappointing, actually.

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Cos I think I had envisaged it to be underbudget because it needs

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-modernising.

-It's a shame it's top end of budget...

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-Yeah. I feel a bit deflated.

-..and not what we need.

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Things aren't looking good for Gavin's dreams

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of a fresh start down under.

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But hopefully the next property can get things back on track.

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It's in Carrum Downs, an established suburb 45 minutes' drive

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from Melbourne city centre.

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Will this four-bedroom family home be more to their taste?

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-This is cosy.

-Oh, wow. I wasn't expecting that.

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-This feels like the UK.

-I was going to say, that's exactly what I was thinking.

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-It feels like a living room we'd have at home.

-Yeah. I like this.

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-Happy.

-And the positive vibe continues as they explore.

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Oh!

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Wow, was not expecting that.

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-Everything is so cute.

-Lovely, isn't it?

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Feeling pretty dumbfounded, to be honest.

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This kind of open-plan family environment

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is exactly what I would want.

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But not everyone's quite so enthused.

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-COHEN:

-I don't know, I just feel like it's too old-fashioned.

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-I'm not picking up on old-fashioned.

-Oh, I am.

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But, Amy, maybe Cohen has a point.

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Our kitchen at home is much more modern and far bigger.

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-Bigger.

-Yeah. It's a lot bigger.

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For me, I would probably want it a little bit more contemporary.

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I think it's time for some fresh air.

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-I really like this.

-It's lovely.

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-This is cute.

-That would be a great entertainment space, wouldn't it?

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Yeah, I really like it. It feels like you're on holiday.

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It looks like the garden is a winner.

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-That is nice, isn't it?

-Wow.

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You've got grass, Cohen.

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You can play football.

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-COHEN:

-I should be able to play football here.

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Ticking the boxes.

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-Ah, come round now!

-It's not so old-fashioned.

-Cool.

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Well, that's definitely a result.

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And once back inside, the main bedroom doesn't disappoint either.

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-This is nice, again.

-Oh, I like this.

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-You wouldn't need to do a single thing in here, would you?

-No.

-No. Not at all.

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It's a really good finish, actually.

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Straight into the en-suite, then.

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-Oh.

-Oh, I like that.

-It's much more modern, isn't it?

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Yeah. This is lovely.

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This is really nice.

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It's really beautiful.

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Though things get a bit heated by bedroom number two.

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Oh, this is nice.

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-Oh, that's nice.

-This is would be my room.

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COHEN: This would be my room.

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Oh, look at my room!

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Whole of my life she's had a bigger room than me.

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Oh, my God.

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Can we rein this in, please?

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This isn't Jeremy Kyle.

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But thankfully, bedroom three is just as nice.

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-Oh, wow.

-Oh, that is nice, isn't it?

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-This is so nice.

-Another fitted wardrobe.

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It's got the grass, a built-in wardrobe and a bedroom you like.

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And it's probably out of budget.

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-Ah, yeah...

-So could you all love it a little bit less?

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This house could be the one to convince Amy and Madison

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to move halfway around the world.

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What do you think?

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-I really like it.

-I'd buy this. I'd move in tomorrow.

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I'd move in tomorrow.

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I'd move in tomorrow.

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Let's hope the price is right, then.

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The family budget is £320,000.

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-Oh, get in!

-My goodness.

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I'm really surprised that this is the same price

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as the first one we saw...

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-I am.

-..because this is way, way more what we're looking for,

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-I think.

-Yeah. That, for me, cements a massive step up the ladder.

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It's a big step forward, isn't it?

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Yeah, definitely.

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Things are looking up for Gavin, and there's still one house to see.

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It is in Cranbourne East, 28 miles south-east of Melbourne.

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This suburb boasts a semirural feel with good transport links,

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making it accessible for commuting.

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Will this modern family home have the wow factor for the Stockleys?

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It's huge.

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It's a lot bigger than what we've seen.

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And inside makes a big impression, too.

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-Wow.

-Blimey.

-Wow, wow, wow.

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It is beautiful, but slightly too sterile and clinical for my taste.

0:17:490:17:55

I really like it.

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So, a difference of opinion already,

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and that continues into the open-plan living area.

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KIDS: Wow.

0:18:040:18:06

This is actually amazing.

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If we moved into a house like this,

0:18:080:18:10

I would be going to Australia in a heartbeat.

0:18:100:18:12

-You're sold.

-I wouldn't even need to say bye to anyone,

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-I'm just here.

-THEY LAUGH

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Here. Gone.

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-The other house felt really warm and cosy, and this one just doesn't have that.

-Yeah.

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It almost feels like this would be lovely for a holiday for a couple

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of weeks, but would it ever become a home?

0:18:230:18:26

I like the sofa. That's nice.

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Well, that's something, at least.

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And the upstairs does make an impact.

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-Wow.

-Wow.

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I think this is an absolutely brilliant master bedroom.

0:18:390:18:41

-Really impressed.

-I think it's beautiful and I love the windows.

0:18:410:18:44

It feels nice, but I can't kind of get rid of how the rest of the house

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makes me feel.

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Well, the good news is there's no fighting over bedrooms

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in this property.

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I think this would be my room. I like this room.

0:18:540:18:56

The window is nice.

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I love the modern look on it.

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-MADISON:

-This would be my room.

-This is very you, isn't it?

0:19:000:19:04

-There you go, it's got nice open wardrobe space.

-Yeah.

0:19:040:19:08

Upstairs is so much better than downstairs in this house.

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Sure about that, Madison?

0:19:110:19:13

Downstairs may have something you haven't seen yet.

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Wow. It's got a pool!

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That's your wow factor, isn't it? People would be impressed with it.

0:19:190:19:22

In Australia, if we could get a pool, then obviously I'd want it.

0:19:220:19:25

But the thing that really strikes me is the barbecue area -

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-that just is amazing.

-Yeah, I love that.

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I can imagine having friends over for a...get-together.

0:19:280:19:31

Imagine, with the pool.

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-That would make this garden come to life.

-Everything. Yeah.

0:19:320:19:35

This property has impressed on many levels,

0:19:350:19:38

but is it somewhere the whole family could see themselves living?

0:19:380:19:42

Right, so I think we know Cohen is sold.

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But what about you?

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On paper, this is, you know, what we were looking for to fit the bill.

0:19:480:19:51

I guess I hadn't appreciated it before how much...

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..I value heart and soul in a house.

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It's got lots of amazing wow features.

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Put them in the other house and then I think you really are talking our

0:20:020:20:04

-dream home.

-It just doesn't feel

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like somewhere I would see us as a family living.

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So not for everyone,

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but is it somewhere they could afford to live

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on their £320,000 budget?

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I'm guessing £450,000.

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I'd go nearer to £420,000.

0:20:200:20:23

It only seems fair that you do it, Co.

0:20:230:20:25

-Oh, wow.

-Wow! It's priced fairly, I think,

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but it still wouldn't encourage me to consider buying it.

0:20:350:20:39

It's interesting. We wouldn't spend £115,000 on having a pool in

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the garden, which is what boils down to for us.

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Well, at least Cohen knows what HE wants.

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I knew from the start this was a dream

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that maybe one day we might be able to achieve.

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So a mixed bag of a day on the property search.

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House number one had the open-plan living the family was after,

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but no grass in the garden meant a no-go.

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Despite a false start,

0:21:090:21:11

house number two's interior won everyone over

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and at a price they could afford.

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And although Cohen loved the modern look of the dream house,

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with the rest of the family not sold,

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he could find himself home alone.

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So will the vote be home or away?

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Based on the three properties we've seen today, our vote goes to...

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-Australia.

-Undecided.

-Undecided.

-Australia.

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So, why did you go undecided?

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I thought you got really excited there about that second one.

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I loved it because it was a lovely house,

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not because it was in Australia.

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I don't know if it's worth giving up everything else.

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It's not going to make me definitely want to move,

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but definitely over our house at the moment,

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I preferred property number two we saw today.

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See how the rest of the week goes and, hopefully,

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we'll turn that undecided the other way.

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With the family split down the middle on Aussie homes,

0:22:170:22:20

it's more crucial than ever that the right work prospects

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come up trumps for Gavin if a move is to be on the cards at all.

0:22:230:22:27

Back in the UK,

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Gavin's worked for a global recruitment company

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for the past 16 years as a learning and development specialist.

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I love coaching people,

0:22:380:22:39

I love supporting people and seeing them thrive and do well.

0:22:390:22:42

He's passionate about what he does,

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but it can take its toll on family life.

0:22:460:22:49

My job does involve stay aways from time to time,

0:22:490:22:52

early starts and late finishers.

0:22:520:22:54

It would be great to sort of leave that behind and have

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a more normal working pattern that fitted with the family, ideally.

0:22:570:23:01

Having previously worked full-time for a large bank,

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life has taken a different direction for Amy.

0:23:040:23:07

She now works just two days a week,

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alongside studying for a degree in psychology.

0:23:090:23:12

What I've learnt in my life experience has put me

0:23:130:23:15

in a really good position to be able to help others

0:23:150:23:18

that have gone through or going through difficult times.

0:23:180:23:21

With one year already under her belt,

0:23:210:23:23

Amy is hoping to complete her degree down under if they make the move.

0:23:230:23:27

But whether the qualification will guarantee a career in Australia

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is a concern.

0:23:300:23:33

I don't know how readily available counselling jobs are.

0:23:330:23:36

Am I looking at working hard to obtain a degree

0:23:360:23:39

for a job that doesn't exist over there?

0:23:390:23:42

However, as the main breadwinner, Gavin's feeling the pressure too.

0:23:420:23:46

Amy isn't in a position to commit to full-time work over there yet,

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so I need to earn a good income and

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secure an opportunity that's going to excite me,

0:23:510:23:53

or else, probably, the move just cannot happen.

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In order to explore job opportunities down under,

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we've arranged for Gavin to visit one of Melbourne's top recruitment

0:24:010:24:05

agencies, where he meets with regional director Ryan Lewis,

0:24:050:24:09

where the news is both good and bad.

0:24:090:24:12

So, Gavin, shall we start with the bad news first?

0:24:120:24:14

Let's get the bad news, yeah.

0:24:140:24:16

So, our nation has recently changed the visa requirements

0:24:160:24:21

for candidates coming over.

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So HR have been taken off that.

0:24:240:24:26

-Removed, yeah.

-But there are other visa options that you can look into.

0:24:260:24:30

I'll probably pick up with an immigration lawyer or specialist

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back in the UK and try and find out some more.

0:24:330:24:35

You know, you've got longevity

0:24:350:24:38

in a top, top business in the UK,

0:24:380:24:40

so a lot of my clients would be very interested in that.

0:24:400:24:43

That's great news. So if I can work around the visa,

0:24:430:24:46

then there's a lot of good hope.

0:24:460:24:47

So, visa permitting, things could work out.

0:24:470:24:51

Meanwhile, across town, Amy's visiting Monash University,

0:24:510:24:55

where she meets Professor Matt Mundy from the School of psychological sciences.

0:24:550:24:58

-Hi, I'm Amy.

-Hi, I'm Matt, good to meet you.

0:24:580:25:00

First up, Amy's got an important question.

0:25:000:25:04

Would my year of education from the UK be recognised here in Australia?

0:25:040:25:09

I think the good news is a lot of it would be.

0:25:090:25:11

You've studied some core components of psychology that would mean you'd

0:25:120:25:16

definitely not be starting from scratch.

0:25:160:25:18

Brilliant, that's great news.

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But could it all lead to a viable career?

0:25:190:25:23

After you've completed your bachelors,

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you would do an honours year.

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So after four years, you're eligible in Australia

0:25:260:25:29

to register as a psychologist if you have

0:25:290:25:31

someone to supervise you for two more years after that.

0:25:310:25:34

I see, OK.

0:25:340:25:35

So the prospects are actually really good.

0:25:350:25:37

All positives so far.

0:25:370:25:39

And the salary?

0:25:390:25:41

Under supervision, you can probably expect around

0:25:410:25:43

-£40,000, £40,000 to £42,000.

-OK.

0:25:430:25:46

But once you have maybe qualified in a specialisation,

0:25:460:25:52

so perhaps a masters in counselling

0:25:520:25:53

or a doctorate in clinical psychology or something like that,

0:25:530:25:56

that figure goes up to between £45,000 to £50,000

0:25:560:26:01

as a sort of starting figure.

0:26:010:26:02

That's much better than I expected, to be honest.

0:26:020:26:05

So, if Amy could have her cake and eat it down under,

0:26:060:26:10

can Gavin do exactly the same?

0:26:100:26:12

So, Ryan, I guess the all-important question, really,

0:26:120:26:15

is what sort of salary do you think I might be able to expect?

0:26:150:26:18

So, really, depending on the organisation,

0:26:180:26:21

you can expect £50,000 to £55,000 per annum.

0:26:210:26:24

It could be up to 10K in either direction of that.

0:26:240:26:27

Wow, OK, that's really interesting. That's good news.

0:26:270:26:30

It's higher than I earn back home in the UK,

0:26:300:26:32

so that gives me some really interesting food for thought.

0:26:320:26:36

Sounds like the money is right, but what about the work-life balance?

0:26:360:26:40

Overall, Melbourne has a good work-life balance

0:26:400:26:44

and you'd be able to find an organisation

0:26:440:26:47

that you won't have to work too hard, and be a dad first

0:26:470:26:51

and a L&D specialist second.

0:26:510:26:54

Exactly what Gavin wanted to hear.

0:26:540:26:56

So it's been a positive day for the couple.

0:26:560:26:59

They meet up to compare notes.

0:27:000:27:03

So, tell me, how did today go for you?

0:27:030:27:05

It went really well, actually.

0:27:050:27:07

It was nice hear that, not only does the qualification

0:27:070:27:10

that I've already got count for something,

0:27:100:27:12

but also I could continue the learning here

0:27:120:27:14

to still achieve my goals.

0:27:140:27:16

And the salary expectations were higher than I expected and,

0:27:160:27:19

you know, it means that I can contribute

0:27:190:27:22

as well as pursue the career I want.

0:27:220:27:24

That's great news.

0:27:240:27:25

I should think you're really proud of yourself and it gives us clarity

0:27:250:27:29

that the decision we made to give you a change of direction

0:27:290:27:32

is the right one, whether we end up in the UK or manage

0:27:320:27:34

to get opportunities to come out here.

0:27:340:27:37

So how did your day go?

0:27:370:27:38

My day was different.

0:27:380:27:40

He was really, really complimentary about my skills, my experience.

0:27:400:27:43

In terms of salary expectations,

0:27:430:27:44

he suggested probably up to about £55,000.

0:27:440:27:47

There is an element of bad news.

0:27:470:27:48

As we know, the visa regulations have recently just changed.

0:27:480:27:52

It's probably going to put quite a delay on our plans.

0:27:520:27:54

We need to seek more information...

0:27:540:27:56

-OK.

-..and keep our fingers crossed, really,

0:27:560:27:58

and pray it's not the show stopper that it could be.

0:27:580:28:00

With such bittersweet news,

0:28:010:28:03

which way will the couple vote when it comes to work down under?

0:28:030:28:06

Based on our work meeting today, our vote goes to...

0:28:080:28:11

-Australia.

-Australia.

0:28:170:28:19

-You went Australia?

-Yeah.

0:28:200:28:21

That's a really positive thing.

0:28:210:28:23

As far as the conversations today on the

0:28:230:28:25

career prospects and my future, I'm really encouraged.

0:28:250:28:29

Of course there's the issue with the visa

0:28:290:28:31

that we do need to investigate more,

0:28:310:28:33

and then we can be really pleased with today's news, I think.

0:28:330:28:35

And it's a big step forward, seeing the Aussie flag in your hands.

0:28:350:28:38

Halfway through their trial week,

0:28:440:28:47

and it's been a decidedly mixed bag for the Stockleys,

0:28:470:28:50

which means their Aussie dream could all rely on what happens next,

0:28:500:28:55

especially on how their messages from home are received.

0:28:550:28:59

First, though, they're off for a day in the great outdoors.

0:28:590:29:03

Let's just hope the skies are a bit clearer.

0:29:030:29:05

The family day out begins with one of Cohen's favourites -

0:29:070:29:10

rock climbing.

0:29:100:29:12

And he's got some words of encouragement for Dad.

0:29:120:29:15

I've never done this, Co, you might have to give me a few tips.

0:29:150:29:18

Don't fall and hold on.

0:29:180:29:20

Good advice.

0:29:200:29:22

You're doing well, Co.

0:29:230:29:24

Don't get distracted and remember, without me, you don't eat.

0:29:260:29:30

Enjoy.

0:29:300:29:31

It was good fun to try something different, wasn't it?

0:29:360:29:38

And Cohen, certainly, I think was in his element.

0:29:380:29:41

I think it's nice to scare yourself a little bit every now and again.

0:29:410:29:44

Glad to feel the ground beneath their feet,

0:29:440:29:47

the family take a stroll around Melbourne.

0:29:470:29:49

But first, it's time for a bite to eat, Aussie style.

0:29:490:29:53

So far, Melbourne's been living up to expectations.

0:29:570:30:00

And later on, the day is rounded off with a surprise call

0:30:000:30:04

from Gavin's mum and dad.

0:30:040:30:05

Hi!

0:30:050:30:07

-THEY LAUGH

-Hiya, guys.

-How are you all?

0:30:070:30:10

We've had a barbecue today outdoors on the river.

0:30:100:30:12

Who cooked, then?

0:30:120:30:13

- Gavin cooked. - And me.

0:30:130:30:14

I'm as shocked as you are.

0:30:140:30:16

I was thinking, if we're going to be an Aussie family,

0:30:160:30:18

I probably need to learn how to barbecue.

0:30:180:30:21

We're really missing you over here.

0:30:210:30:22

-It's a long way. Take care.

-Love you all.

0:30:220:30:26

Love you so much.

0:30:260:30:28

- Bye. - Bye.

0:30:280:30:30

That was nice, seeing Nan and Grandad.

0:30:300:30:32

I don't know, it feels like ages since we have last seen them.

0:30:320:30:35

How would feel if that was the only contact you had with your nan and grandad?

0:30:350:30:38

I don't think I'd like to not be able to see them.

0:30:380:30:42

Despite the difficult reminder of home,

0:30:420:30:45

the day has gone down well with Cohen and Madison.

0:30:450:30:47

I've enjoyed the fact that all four of us

0:30:490:30:51

have been able to go out today and do things together,

0:30:510:30:54

and I think if we moved here, then we would do a lot more of that.

0:30:540:30:57

-MADISON:

-Even though the weather hasn't been amazing here,

0:30:580:31:01

I have enjoyed today because it's been something that's quite, like,

0:31:010:31:05

different to what we would do normally.

0:31:050:31:08

And even after yesterday's disappointing news

0:31:080:31:10

on the visa front, Gavin's more certain than ever.

0:31:100:31:14

I'm as convinced as I ever have been, I think,

0:31:140:31:16

that Melbourne is a really, really great option

0:31:160:31:18

and something that I want to pursue.

0:31:180:31:20

So I'm still very much firmly behind the dream.

0:31:200:31:22

But has it done enough to convince Amy?

0:31:230:31:26

Whilst today has been lovely, and we've had a great day, we've had so much fun,

0:31:260:31:29

it hasn't offered any further justification for the move.

0:31:290:31:34

None of the experiences we've had here have left me feeling...

0:31:340:31:37

..undoubted that Australia was our future.

0:31:390:31:41

So with a lot to think about, it's time for the vote.

0:31:420:31:47

Based on our great day out today, our vote goes to...

0:31:470:31:50

-UK.

-Australia.

-Australia. Australia

0:32:060:32:08

-You went UK?

-Yes.

0:32:080:32:10

And I'm disappointed I can't vote Australia too,

0:32:100:32:13

but I have to be honest,

0:32:130:32:14

I haven't experienced enough reason to give me enough motivation to say

0:32:140:32:19

that we absolutely need to do this.

0:32:190:32:21

You need to feel something, ultimately, really, truly special

0:32:210:32:24

ultimately different, and you're not feeling that and I accept that.

0:32:240:32:27

Seeing more of Melbourne,

0:32:270:32:29

I do really like it and hopefully by the end of this experience,

0:32:290:32:34

Melbourne will have won me over.

0:32:340:32:36

I think all year round, it would be a really fun place to be.

0:32:360:32:39

We'll continue with the rest of the week and see what else develops.

0:32:390:32:42

Amy's very definite vote for the UK is a huge blow for Gavin,

0:32:510:32:55

and with just days left to win her round,

0:32:550:32:57

the finances will have to stack up.

0:32:570:33:00

Getting the right price for their home in the UK will be crucial.

0:33:000:33:03

They think it's worth £280,000.

0:33:050:33:08

Will two local estate agents agree?

0:33:080:33:11

Into the lounge. Decorated nicely throughout.

0:33:110:33:14

Oh, I miss it.

0:33:140:33:15

And bay window letting in all the natural light.

0:33:150:33:18

You can see that this is very much the heart of the home

0:33:200:33:23

and it's just a real social area of the property.

0:33:230:33:26

Must be the master bedroom.

0:33:270:33:29

Good size, again, smooth finish walls and ceilings,

0:33:290:33:33

plenty of room there for storage.

0:33:330:33:35

Really nice-sized garden.

0:33:370:33:39

You can see that they enjoy it a lot,

0:33:390:33:41

perfect barbecue area, seating area, going into the hot tub, of course,

0:33:410:33:44

that we can enjoy on sunnier days.

0:33:440:33:47

In today's market, I'd value this property at £325,000.

0:33:470:33:52

For a quick sale, I'd value this property at £315,000.

0:33:520:33:56

That's fab.

0:33:560:33:57

In the current market, I would value this property at £325,000.

0:33:570:34:01

For a quick sale, I would put it on the market for £315,000.

0:34:010:34:07

I think the valuations are encouraging cos that's probably

0:34:070:34:09

a little higher than we might have expected.

0:34:090:34:11

That house is probably better than the property two

0:34:110:34:16

from the property day.

0:34:160:34:18

Because of that, it sort of makes it harder to choose Australia now.

0:34:180:34:22

-Oh!

-Interesting.

0:34:220:34:24

So, a thought-provoking viewing for the family.

0:34:250:34:29

But now it's time for Gavin and Amy to compare the cost of living

0:34:290:34:32

in Australia with the UK.

0:34:320:34:35

Moment of truth.

0:34:350:34:36

To help, we've provided a breakdown of living expenses,

0:34:360:34:39

starting with their weekly food shop.

0:34:390:34:41

OK, so pork, so in the UK it's £4.

0:34:440:34:47

Crikey, in Australia it's £5.52.

0:34:470:34:49

Pork's much more expensive over here.

0:34:490:34:51

Yeah, a big jump.

0:34:510:34:52

So, lager, a 12-pack would be £10.

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And in Australia, it's £17.25!

0:34:560:35:00

-Uh-oh.

-Oh, my goodness, you're going to have to give up lager.

0:35:000:35:03

-Oh, no. The move's off.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:35:030:35:06

So, what's the damage overall?

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£50.77p more per week more in Australia.

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That's going to put a huge dent in our finances.

0:35:130:35:16

-Yeah.

-Already out-of-pocket.

0:35:160:35:19

Next, they check the bigger bills.

0:35:190:35:21

Basing their figures on the second property they saw,

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their monthly mortgage would increase by over £120 down under.

0:35:240:35:29

It's not the good news we were hoping for.

0:35:290:35:31

It's starting to look like it is going to be

0:35:310:35:33

really, really difficult, isn't it?

0:35:330:35:36

But Amy's encouraged.

0:35:360:35:38

It isn't huge, considering how beautiful it was,

0:35:380:35:40

not a significant jump, is it, to be able to get that?

0:35:400:35:42

I loved that house, so, yeah, I'd be prepared to pay a bit more for it.

0:35:420:35:46

So everything rests on whether their salaries can make up the shortfall.

0:35:460:35:50

You'd be taking home £1,473 more per month here in Australia.

0:35:510:35:57

-Makes it sound a bit healthier, doesn't it?

-Well, yeah.

0:35:570:35:59

And even with Amy working part-time,

0:35:590:36:01

their combined salaries yield a result.

0:36:010:36:04

So while I'm studying here in Australia,

0:36:050:36:08

I could work three days a week,

0:36:080:36:10

which works out at £1,575 per month here in Australia.

0:36:100:36:15

And that means we'd be bringing in an extra £2,298 per month.

0:36:150:36:21

Really?! Did we work that out right?

0:36:210:36:24

HE CHUCKLES

0:36:240:36:26

So taking everything into consideration,

0:36:260:36:28

where does that leave them overall?

0:36:280:36:31

So in Australia, we are going to be better off...

0:36:310:36:35

-By?

-..by £1,680 per calendar month.

0:36:350:36:40

Wow.

0:36:400:36:42

Wow. We could live like kings!

0:36:430:36:47

-That's got to help win you over.

-I think I need to do them again.

0:36:470:36:50

HE LAUGHS

0:36:500:36:53

Interesting result.

0:36:530:36:54

How will they vote?

0:36:540:36:56

Based on our reality check today, our vote goes to...

0:36:560:36:59

-Australia!

-Australia!

0:37:060:37:08

THEY LAUGH

0:37:090:37:12

Good. That's good news.

0:37:120:37:13

To go through those costs and not vote for Australia would be insane.

0:37:130:37:18

But I'm pleased to be able to vote in line with you today.

0:37:180:37:21

And now suddenly it feels it's more within touching distance for us.

0:37:210:37:25

So, yeah, really, really good news.

0:37:250:37:27

The finances have taken Gavin a step closer to the new life he craves

0:37:330:37:37

for his family, but will his new-found optimism be short lived?

0:37:370:37:41

The whole family sits down to watch messages from home.

0:37:410:37:45

Go on, then, Cohen. Get it started.

0:37:450:37:47

Hi.

0:37:470:37:49

Hello.

0:37:490:37:51

-Natural.

-Amy is a diamond.

0:37:510:37:52

Everybody needs an Amy in their life, without a doubt.

0:37:520:37:55

Gavin, he's my best friend. We even went to university together,

0:37:550:37:58

although that was pretty short lived.

0:37:580:38:00

We enjoyed the beer a bit too much, to be honest with you.

0:38:000:38:03

Amy, Gavin, Maddie and Cohen are the perfect little family.

0:38:030:38:07

When Gavin told me that this was their plan,

0:38:070:38:11

they were going to go to Australia,

0:38:110:38:12

or they hoped to go to Australia... Oh, crumbs.

0:38:120:38:16

I don't want them to go because I would miss them and it would be

0:38:160:38:20

like having part of your heart missing.

0:38:200:38:22

Being selfish, I don't want them to go to Australia,

0:38:220:38:25

but, first and foremost, I want them to be happy,

0:38:250:38:28

and if they can make it work and that's what they truly want, then,

0:38:280:38:32

you know, they'll go with our blessing.

0:38:320:38:34

As far as the kids are concerned,

0:38:340:38:36

it will be a shame that they won't have their cousins to grow up together.

0:38:360:38:40

I will miss them all massively.

0:38:400:38:43

Us back in England, we'll still survive, we'll get through,

0:38:460:38:50

but it's about the better life for you guys.

0:38:500:38:52

You've got to do whatever you think is going to make you happy,

0:38:520:38:56

we're here for you, whether you're in the UK or over the other side of

0:38:560:39:00

the world.

0:39:000:39:01

You know how we feel, we'd miss you terribly...

0:39:010:39:03

..but the decision is yours, you know, you'll go with our blessing.

0:39:050:39:09

You know we'll be supportive of you.

0:39:090:39:11

We'll miss you and we love you.

0:39:110:39:13

Yeah.

0:39:150:39:16

I was just biting my lip trying not to get upset.

0:39:170:39:20

-MADISON:

-Even if life's absolutely perfect out here,

0:39:200:39:23

we're still never going to have them with us.

0:39:230:39:25

There's not a beach on the planet or a sunny day on the earth

0:39:260:39:31

that I can see would be worth sacrificing...

0:39:310:39:35

..those people out of my life on a day-to-day basis,

0:39:380:39:40

because they are the reason I've got...

0:39:400:39:43

They're the reason I've got through the last few years.

0:39:450:39:49

I don't know.

0:39:490:39:50

Sorry.

0:39:520:39:53

At the start of the week,

0:39:550:39:56

Gavin Stockley wanted to show his family that Australia

0:39:560:39:59

could help them heal after a couple of difficult years.

0:39:590:40:04

But it has been anything but plain sailing.

0:40:040:40:07

Now, as they approach the final vote,

0:40:070:40:10

it's time to see where their future lies.

0:40:100:40:14

How would you vote?

0:40:140:40:15

Seven days ago,

0:40:170:40:18

the Stockley family set foot in Australia for the very first time.

0:40:180:40:22

I think it really, truly has lived up to everything that I expected.

0:40:230:40:26

I have fallen in love with Melbourne.

0:40:260:40:28

I think it's a beautiful city and I could definitely see myself living here.

0:40:280:40:32

The trial week has seen the rest of the family

0:40:320:40:35

brought closer together to Gavin's way of thinking.

0:40:350:40:38

That's the biggest positive spin that I could have possibly had.

0:40:380:40:42

It's given us a sight into what Australia has to give us.

0:40:420:40:46

I've loved everything that we've done, including the properties,

0:40:460:40:50

to being able to go outside and have a barbecue.

0:40:500:40:53

But heartfelt messages from home has given pause for thought.

0:40:530:40:57

Even if we're living our dream life here,

0:40:580:41:00

it's never going to be the same

0:41:000:41:02

without our family and friends around us.

0:41:020:41:04

We knew we'd feel sad because we had a lot of people back at home,

0:41:040:41:07

but we didn't want to make anyone else upset.

0:41:070:41:10

And it's left Amy feeling pulled from both sides.

0:41:110:41:15

I'm absolutely blown away that I'm even this torn.

0:41:150:41:19

I can't pick up the family and put them in Australia and give them all

0:41:190:41:22

these wonderful opportunities

0:41:220:41:24

and amazing experiences AND keep everything

0:41:240:41:28

they know and love around them.

0:41:280:41:30

I can't do both, so ultimately I have to choose one or the other.

0:41:350:41:39

It's time for the final vote.

0:41:410:41:44

Based on our great week in Australia, our final vote goes to...

0:41:440:41:48

-Australia!

-Australia!

-UK!

-Australia!

0:41:590:42:03

UK, really?

0:42:030:42:04

Don't get me wrong, it would be cool to move over here,

0:42:040:42:06

but the fact that there's nothing that does need changing,

0:42:060:42:10

I don't think there's any point in running the risk of moving the other side of the world.

0:42:100:42:14

I think we expected all along it was going to be hard to say goodbye to

0:42:140:42:17

everyone, but we can't let that stop us.

0:42:170:42:20

I'm a bit shocked you've gone for Australia.

0:42:200:42:23

Like we've always said, we want to regret the decisions we make,

0:42:230:42:26

not the decisions we don't make, and this means a lot to you,

0:42:260:42:29

so I should and will support you in it.

0:42:290:42:32

That's brilliant.

0:42:320:42:34

-And clearly Cohen needs convincing that it's going to be worth his while.

-Yeah.

0:42:340:42:37

I am troubled that it might be taken out of our hands.

0:42:370:42:40

All we can do, I guess, is let fate take a hand.

0:42:400:42:43

But like you, I think it's just proven to me

0:42:430:42:45

that this is going to be a wonderful future for us.

0:42:450:42:49

Yeah, shall we have a little group hug?

0:42:490:42:51

THEY LAUGH

0:42:510:42:54

After a topsy-turvy week,

0:42:570:43:00

Amy decided that Australia had showed her enough positives

0:43:000:43:04

to vote yes to a move.

0:43:040:43:06

Now I guess all they have to do is get little Cohen on board.

0:43:060:43:10

Whatever happens next,

0:43:100:43:12

we do of course wish them all the very best of luck.

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