McGuinness Family Wanted Down Under


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Paddy McGuinness is a lover of all things Aussie...

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Everything felt amazing. I was taken aback by big buildings, I was taken

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aback even by the sunshine.

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..now in love with his Australian-born wife. She, however,

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left the country behind and is loving life back in the UK.

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I would have to start again if I go to Australia,

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and I would have to build new friendships, building a new

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community and a new support network, and I have that sitting

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-ready here.

-A trial week in Australia

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sees Paddy try to convince Erin

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that it's time to move back.

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Living in Australia, the work-life balance for us as a family

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will be a lot better and make us a lot happier.

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But can she resist powerful calls from her mum not to

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return down under?

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I can't even speak at the moment.

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It's just the very thought of those boys in Australia.

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FUNKY MUSIC PLAYS

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With an average temperature of 22 Celsius,

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and more than 10,000 beaches to enjoy the sunshine,

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it's not hard to understand why Australia is a magnet for families

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seeking a new life down under.

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But life on the other side of the world doesn't always live up to the

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dream, and latest figures show almost half of those

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making the move return home.

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When Erin McGuiness left Australia at the age of ten,

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she thought it was for good.

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She settled down in her mum's native Ireland, lost her Aussie accent,

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and started to love life on a whole new side of the world.

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And then she met Paddy - a Northern Irishman whose obsession

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with moving to Australia has given her

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sleepless nights.

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He wants to convince her that now, with two children of their own,

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it's time to move down under again.

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She's agreed to a trial week where they'll find out together the

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realities of living in Australia and whether they can afford it.

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After a journey lasting over 20 hours,

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the McGuinesses land in Melbourne, raring to go.

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The journey was long, but I'm excited to be here and I'm looking

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forward to what's in store for the rest of the week.

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And how did the little ones handle it?

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The kids were very active and very vocal on the flight.

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-They did sleep a good few hours, so...

-They were good boys.

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And for Erin, the arrival has particular significance.

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It sort of feels like I'm back at home.

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But the excitement soon turns to nerves.

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It's make or break, really. Hopefully we get the right news that we want.

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There's no going back. I have to make a decision. I have to face the

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reality of, "Are we going to move here or not?"

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In just seven days' time,

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they'll have to answer what side of the world their future lies.

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Meet the McGuinesses.

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Dad Paddy, mum Erin, Alex age four, and Jude, just two.

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Paddy has fallen in love with all things Australian since meeting

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Australian-born Erin.

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I met Paddy at his 18th birthday party,

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in a nightclub in Newry, where he's from.

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We just kind of had that connection straightaway.

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Just, as you do, on the dance floor, and we met up and exchanged numbers

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-and...

-As time progressed, we decided to make a go of it, and...

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ever since, we've been together.

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But it was also Erin's Aussie background

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that Paddy fell in love with.

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The lifestyle that we had was brilliant.

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The schools were amazing, and a lot of outdoor space,

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and we just lived the ideal outdoor lifestyle.

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I sort of nearly blame myself for, you know, selling it to him.

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After a special holiday together,

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Paddy decided he wanted to move there permanently.

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Coming from a small city in Northern Ireland,

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I was taken aback by big buildings,

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I was taken aback by even the sunshine,

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the whole hustle and bustle of the city.

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You know, everything felt... felt amazing.

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Initially at least, Erin certainly wasn't opposed to it.

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Any conversation with anybody I meet new, you know, I'm first to tell

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them, "Oh, do you know I'm Australian?"

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And then they look at me and say,

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"Hmm, well, the accent doesn't really give it away."

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I think it probably started off in the early days being my dream,

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but as I've got older and had kids,

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I've sort of got a little bit more scared, whereas Paddy has held on to

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-the dream, and now...

-I want that dream to really become a reality.

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Now that we've got the kids, he's pushing more.

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Marriage and the children have only made Paddy all the more

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-hungry for the move.

-A draw!

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I have the boys, basically, most of the day,

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whereas Erin's at work. I'm getting to spend that quality time with my

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children, which is fantastic, but when you look outside and it's

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raining, you know, the activities you can do

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in Northern Ireland are limited.

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-Added to this is the issue of their son's health.

-Yay!

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I think Alex has the worst case of asthma.

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He has to take his inhalers regularly.

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His breathing is far better in the summertime.

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Like, he can play out all day long and he seems to be perfectly fine.

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It's just as soon as the cold air hits, he just, he can't breathe.

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Wooo!

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-I just feel, the warmer climate in Australia...

-LAUGHTER

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..it's possible that his asthma could improve.

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There is a big but in all of this -

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Erin's mum.

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Having herself emigrated to Melbourne once upon a time,

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and returned to Ireland after 15 years,

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she thinks it's far from a good idea.

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My mum will always say that, you know, she doesn't regret, you know,

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one thing about it because it was an amazing place to bring up me and my

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brother as children. But she says, just as time went on

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and the years went on, she just got more and more homesick.

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Mwah! And a hug?

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I feel that it would really break her heart if all four of us go,

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because she's done it and she's experienced it,

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and she knows the difficulties of

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missing family and friends. So...

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And her mum's doubts have started to make Erin doubt, too.

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I would have to start again if we go to Australia,

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and have to build new friendships,

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build a new community and a new support network.

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I have that sitting ready here.

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Yes, it's nice to live in a place where it's hot all the time,

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but we'll be making dinner, we'll be going to bed,

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the routine's going to be exactly the same,

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only it's going to be a lot hotter.

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You know, I don't know how he's going to cope with the heat.

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For Paddy, celebrating what he hopes could be his last birthday

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in the UK, the issue is clear.

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CHEERING

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Paddy, happy birthday.

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I just feel that moving to Australia,

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the work-life balance for us as a family will be a lot better

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and make us a lot happier.

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Taking away the two children from both sets of grandparents,

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I do feel selfish, if I'm being honest.

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But what they're going to realise is...

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me and Erin, this is our life,

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we want to, we decide what's best for us as a family.

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The time has come to decide once and for all.

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What's certain is Erin isn't going to be forced into a move.

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If I just don't get the gut feeling and things aren't going my way,

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and I think this isn't for us as a family,

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whilst I will be, I know, probably breaking Paddy's heart

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and squashing his dream, I'm not going to be afraid to say,

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"No, it doesn't feel right and this isn't for us."

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And, you know, that's the end of the dream, and, you know, the

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Australia dream is over and Northern Ireland is where we're going to

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live. You know, I won't be afraid to say that at the end of the week.

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When the family arrives at their rental accommodation for the week,

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it's late and everyone's tired.

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Once they see their new surroundings,

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their energy levels soon pick up.

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This is my bed, and this is your bed.

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-Nice three bedrooms.

-It's open-planned, I mean...

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-It's what we wished for, wasn't it?

-Yeah, with the beach...

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-Three bedrooms.

-..garden for the kids.

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-Should be a good week.

-Yeah.

-But it's clear the reality of the

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situation is starting to sink in for Paddy.

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-I am feeling nervous.

-What are you feeling nervous about?

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I'm feeling nervous that, you know, that...

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I'm going to say no and it's all going to be over?

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No, but I don't want to devastate you, so...

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No, I know. We're in this together, and if things don't work out,

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if we don't get the right information that we need,

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then it's back to square one, really.

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Back in the UK,

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the McGuiness family live in a three-bedroom detached house in the

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cathedral city of Armagh,

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and it's fair to say they are pretty happy.

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We bought our house just under two years ago as a brand-new build.

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We've worked really hard to get to where we are now. We even had to

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sacrifice living with my mum for 15 months while we had to wait till it

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was built, so we've sacrificed a lot

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to get into the house and to get settled.

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There's one aspect of their house,

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however, they aren't particularly keen on.

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Every property has its sacrifices. A garden is definitely ours.

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So, if they move down under, what are the couple looking for?

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I would need to have a house that would be very similar to mine -

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three to four-bedroomed, detached property with, not a massive garden,

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but good and...good-sized.

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-And close to commuting as well, for travelling to work as well.

-Yeah.

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If we couldn't find a house within our budget...

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we wouldn't go.

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Well...

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-We wouldn't go.

-OK.

-LAUGHTER

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The couple have a budget of £280,000.

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To find out what kind of home their money could get them in Melbourne,

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we'll show them three properties -

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two based on budget, and a third which could be their dream home.

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The search begins in Langwarrin,

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an established suburb located near to the beach-side urban centre of

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Frankston, with shopping and transport options,

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as well as close to Erin's extended family in Carrum Downs.

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Outside, the couple compare thoughts on the next step, or rather, steps.

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I'm just not too sure about the steps, though, with the boys. It

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might be a bit too dangerous, I think, but can't wait to get in.

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-Well, wait no longer, Paddy. Off you go.

-Nice hallway.

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You sort of walk straight in to the living room.

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It's a bit strange. Usually we come into the hallway and then you

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-have...

-You have your own private room, yeah.

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Maybe this could become a games room or...

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That would be a no, Paddy.

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Moving on into the kitchen area...

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-Nice and open.

-Something like we have back home, and then you obviously have your...

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-This must be, like, a bar, so...

-Yeah.

-..plenty of gin to be drunk.

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-No, I think we'd get rid of the bar.

-SHE LAUGHS

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That's no games room, no bar, then.

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Erin's got more radical plans.

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I would personally rip the kitchen out.

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Well, the house isn't setting anyone's world alight,

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and that continues into the main bedroom.

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It's a bit small.

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That big master window as well, which is a bit strange.

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It's OK. It's not as nice, obviously, as our own bedroom.

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Looks like Armagh 1, Australia 0.

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Will the en-suite even up the score?

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-So this is the en-suite?

-I would definitely have to rip this out and

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-start again...

-Definitely.

-..and have a more modern en suite,

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-but the size and space is fine.

-It needs a bit of modernisation.

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And if size is what they're after,

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will there be enough space for clothes?

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Ah, so here's the wardrobe space.

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Eh...

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-Eh, for me...

-Lost for words, you two?

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It would just fit your clothes alone, if even.

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So...we'd have to look at different kind of space area for the likes of

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my clothes, because I would actually have something similar to yourself.

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We can downsize your stuff and you can have the smallest space over

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here, and I'll stick with this.

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That's told you, Paddy.

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With the boys being looked after by a childminder,

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it's up to the parents to check out their bedrooms.

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-For me, this would tick boxes.

-Yep.

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It's decent-sized. You know, a single bed, you can put, like, a...

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their toy section here as well,

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a nice TV in the wall, and make it a nice boys' room.

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-Mm-hmm.

-So, yeah, the boys will be happy enough with this room.

-Yeah.

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Well, things are starting to look up.

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Let's see what outside has to offer, shall we?

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We wanted outdoor living, so we've got it.

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It seems a bachelor maybe owns this house. You know, it has the bar,

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-it has the hot tub.

-Definitely. I wanted more of a family garden,

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-a lot of space for the kids.

-The boys are very active.

-Yeah.

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-You know...

-They need to burn off all their energy.

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Right, well, a mixed bag, it's safe to say.

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But could they afford it on their £280,000 budget?

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-So, what's your feelings on this property?

-The area seems to be nice.

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-The house is fine inside, you know, it's just...

-The garden.

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..the garden, it's the garden space that I would crave,

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-personally, especially for the boys.

-Yeah.

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It looks like it's a desired area.

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I'm thinking we're close enough to the £300,000 mark.

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I'd be a little bit gutted if it was.

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I'm hoping that it'll be around 270.

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-Shall we have a look, then?

-Yeah, let's go.

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It's not as bad, like, you thought it was going to be over our budget.

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No, but it does leave that kind of room, you know,

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if you did want to do work.

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It makes it a little bit more hopeful that maybe other houses in

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-the area that are a little bit more modern might not be too far out of reach.

-Yeah.

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Only one house down,

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and no-one's booking the removal vans to Melbourne just yet.

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The next property is in the new development of Cranbourne East,

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an area that has good infrastructure and close to schools and nice parks.

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First impressions are good.

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This is definitely the style of house that I had in mind.

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-It's lovely.

-I'm optimistic. I'm excited to see what's inside.

-Yeah.

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-Yes, this is what we're looking for. A nice open hallway.

-Oh!

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Oh, it's lovely in here.

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It's definitely more our sort of feel, isn't it?

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And this continues into the kitchen area.

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-Wow!

-Wow! This is more like it, isn't it?

-Yeah, I like this.

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Yeah, this is definitely what I imagined for an open-plan living.

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Having your kitchen, dining, living room all-in-one,

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and it's a great big space.

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Something like what we have back home, so we can keep an eye on the

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-boys when we're in kitchen.

-I could see us, definitely, in this house.

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As a house ready to meet the needs of a busy young family,

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this place seems to be the direct opposite of the last house.

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That said, the main bedroom still has that typical Aussie feature.

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Again, I'm sort of picking up that most of the houses have the master

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-bedrooms at the front of the house.

-Yeah.

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For security purposes, I sort of like being at the front of the

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-house.

-Yeah, it ticks boxes for me as well. It is open, you know?

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-There's plenty of room.

-Yeah.

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But is there plenty of room for the pair's ample clothing requirements?

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-Wow, there's a walk-in wardrobe!

-Yeah.

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-No, this is more space then the last one.

-Yeah.

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-I can have that wee space at the back.

-And I can have all this.

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-You can have all that other space, yeah. Then there'll be no arguments.

-THEY LAUGH

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And there's plenty for the boys to get excited about in their own rooms.

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Wow! I know somebody that'll like this bedroom, definitely.

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-Totally Alex.

-And it's a great size, isn't it?

-LAUGHTER

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Yeah, it's perfect. It seems like it was made for him.

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It is made for him, yeah.

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So, will the outside space be more family-friendly

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than the last property they viewed?

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-So, here we have the decking area. Open play...

-Oh!

-Yeah.

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-Some space, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-You have your barbecue area,

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a nice seating area as well.

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-It ticks many boxes.

-Yeah.

-A bit more private.

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There's even a place for the boys to have a kickaround.

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Oh, yeah! This is nice.

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-This is it, yeah.

-I can see football nets here, trampoline,

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this is the perfect size area, it's not too big.

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I can see the ball being kicked over that fence a lot of times,

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-so me running after...

-LAUGHTER

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Well, this house ticks a lot of boxes,

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but the ultimate box has yet to be revealed -

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the price.

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What's your feelings on this one?

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I definitely could see myself making the move for a house like this.

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How much do you think this house will be?

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I'm thinking maybe along the £295,000 to £300,000 mark.

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I was going to say along the £300,000 mark.

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So I think we're sort of both thinking along the same lines.

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Shall we have a look, then?

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Let's go.

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SHE GASPS

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-Oooh!

-Just above our budget, but it's actually...

0:16:580:17:00

-Yeah, I'm happy enough...

-I'm very happy with that, yeah, because...

0:17:000:17:03

-You don't need to do anything to it.

-No, exactly, it's walk-in.

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You know, it's made me feel a lot more happy about the possible move.

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To know that we can afford to buy a house at £280,000,

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you know, this could turn our dream into reality.

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I think we can call that Armagh 1, Australia 1 now.

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What a result!

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The final property the pair is viewing is in the giant

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botanic garden suburb of Melbourne.

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Built around a golf course, it's surrounded by farmland,

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meaning there are fewer facilities in the immediate area.

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More developments, however, are planned,

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which will mean shops and facilities further down the track.

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Will this place prove to be the dream property?

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You know, from the outside, it looks fantastic.

0:17:430:17:45

-Let's see if it's got the space we need on the inside.

-Exactly.

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At least there are no steps to get in.

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And once inside, well, Erin's Irish eyes are definitely smiling.

0:17:510:17:56

-Ah! This is how I like it.

-SHE GASPS

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-It's gorgeous.

-Wow!

0:17:590:18:01

-Yeah.

-This is what I'm looking for, definitely.

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It's not too big, it's just the perfect size.

0:18:040:18:06

-It's lovely.

-It's bigger than what we have at home as well.

-Yeah.

-You know, it's...

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A lot of space for the guys to be running around as well.

0:18:090:18:12

-Into the kitchen next.

-So, how do you feel about the kitchen?

0:18:120:18:15

-Oh, the kitchen's gorgeous.

-Isn't it fantastic?

-The worktop is lovely.

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It's great. Nice entertaining space for people to sit at the other end

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of the island and maybe prepare meals for the kids.

0:18:220:18:25

-It's really, really lovely.

-Also, even for entertaining guests,

0:18:250:18:28

once again, and sitting down for a meal, and still have all this

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room around us and not feel cramped.

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The family space has proven a hit.

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What about the private space for Mum and Dad?

0:18:360:18:39

-SHE GASPS

-Now this is nice.

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-This is much better, yeah.

-Yeah.

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This is definitely a dream master bedroom.

0:18:430:18:46

You wouldn't get anything like this back at home, the space, it's just,

0:18:460:18:50

-it's gorgeous, I really love it.

-And the walk-in wardrobe is

0:18:500:18:53

virtually a whole new room in itself.

0:18:530:18:56

-Wow! This is what you wanted.

-Yeah, this is, oh, this is perfect.

-SHE GASPS

0:18:570:19:02

-I think that's our space.

-Yeah. It's all mine, really.

0:19:020:19:04

-You can have all that side, no bother.

-LAUGHTER

0:19:040:19:06

-So I can keep all my mess in here.

-Yeah.

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Sliding into the en-suite now.

0:19:090:19:12

-SHE GASPS

-Wow!

-Oh, my...

0:19:130:19:17

This is amazing!

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It's bigger than our whole bathroom.

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-It's massive.

-Yeah, and the bath alone,

0:19:210:19:24

-I can see myself in here for a couple of hours.

-Yeah, watching TV.

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-With a beer.

-So we know Paddy will be entertained.

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What about the boys?

0:19:310:19:33

-Wow! Playroom area.

-Totally, this is a playroom area.

0:19:330:19:35

-The boys will love that.

-Yeah. Perfect for their little...

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-Great size, too.

-..playroom snug.

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I suppose when they get a little bit older, it'll be sort of like a

0:19:390:19:42

-homework/office area for them.

-Exactly, yeah.

0:19:420:19:45

Another great sized room.

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By the couple's reaction to the inside of this house,

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I'm not sure that they'd want to leave it, but if they did,

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does the outside match up to what they've seen so far?

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Wow. It's different levels. It's lovely.

0:19:560:19:59

Yeah, it all flows down again. Just the whole house seems to flow in the right direction.

0:19:590:20:03

Yeah, I can see us entertaining out here and having a few family parties

0:20:030:20:07

-and family gatherings.

-Wait, guys. There's more.

0:20:070:20:11

-Nice sunlounger for the sun.

-The sun that we're going to see.

-Yeah.

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Then a nice decking area as well,

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nice seating for eating and enjoying a glass of wine.

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And even more!

0:20:200:20:22

Wow! The boys would love this!

0:20:220:20:25

This is amazing. Yeah, you know, this is perfect.

0:20:250:20:27

-This is what I wanted. A football net and a trampoline.

-Yeah.

0:20:270:20:30

Maybe Alex and Jude can have friends out here as well and play.

0:20:300:20:33

-It's a gorgeous house.

-It's a great area.

0:20:330:20:34

Yeah, but because the house ticked all the boxes,

0:20:340:20:37

I'm a wee bit wary about the price.

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Well, with a budget of £280,000,

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is Paddy right to be wary?

0:20:420:20:45

-So, what's your feelings?

-It's absolutely amazing.

0:20:450:20:48

You know, it would be... Out of all the houses we've seen today,

0:20:480:20:51

-I'd say it would be the dream house.

-Yeah.

0:20:510:20:53

I think it's definitely above our budget.

0:20:530:20:55

I'm thinking it's probably around...

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£350,000.

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I'm going to go with £320,000 - £325,000 mark.

0:21:000:21:05

-Let's turn it over.

-Yeah, turn it over, yeah, and have a look.

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SHE GASPS

0:21:150:21:18

Well, I definitely thought it would be over budget.

0:21:180:21:21

Not by nearly £100,000, but that's a big difference.

0:21:210:21:25

It's a massive difference.

0:21:250:21:26

A day's house-hunting has given the McGuinnesses some idea of what they

0:21:300:21:34

might be able to afford if they made the move down under.

0:21:340:21:37

Property one was exactly the sort of place they expected to find in a

0:21:370:21:40

typical suburban street in Melbourne,

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but it needed a lot of work and was too small for their needs.

0:21:430:21:47

Property two was a lot more to the couple's taste -

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bigger, more modern, it was just slightly over budget.

0:21:500:21:54

Property three had the wow factor from front to back -

0:21:540:21:57

a blockbuster of a family home,

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but at £380,000,

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it was more a house to aspire to

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then one they could realistically afford.

0:22:040:22:07

So, when it comes to property in Melbourne,

0:22:070:22:09

will the couple vote for the UK or down under?

0:22:090:22:13

Based on the three houses we've seen today, our vote goes to...

0:22:130:22:17

-UK.

-Undecided.

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So, why the UK?

0:22:300:22:31

The dream home that I want is £100,000 over budget, and

0:22:310:22:35

I just don't think it's achievable.

0:22:350:22:37

You know, we don't want to move over here and have...

0:22:370:22:39

-Have less than what we have.

-..less than what we have. You know...

0:22:390:22:42

-A bit disappointing really.

-Yeah.

0:22:420:22:44

It's a hugely disappointing start for Paddy in his mission to persuade

0:22:510:22:56

Erin that Melbourne is the place for them to settle.

0:22:560:22:58

If he's going to get things back on track, then he'll have to hope

0:22:580:23:01

Australia delivers on the jobs front.

0:23:010:23:04

Back in the UK, Paddy feeds his love of all things Aussie in a rather

0:23:050:23:09

-unique way.

-I work as a barman in an Australian restaurant in Armagh.

0:23:090:23:13

So, here you have our Uluru's finest cocktail.

0:23:180:23:21

It's called Bushfire.

0:23:210:23:23

Erin, on the other hand, has a job that's more office-based,

0:23:230:23:26

-working in IT.

-I work in information systems.

0:23:260:23:29

The whole objective is to make things more profitable,

0:23:290:23:33

more efficient and work better for the operations team.

0:23:330:23:36

It's a situation that leaves them working very different hours.

0:23:390:23:43

Some evenings, we're passing by and we're not even seeing each other.

0:23:430:23:47

And then, whenever I'm off at the weekend to spend some time with the

0:23:470:23:50

-kids, he's usually at work.

-Paddy agrees.

0:23:500:23:53

I love my job. It's just the hours don't suit.

0:23:530:23:56

I wish it was a nine-to-five job.

0:23:560:23:58

And, for that, Paddy knows he'll need a change of career - ideally

0:23:580:24:02

finding a position in the retail fashion sector.

0:24:020:24:04

For Erin, meanwhile, this is make-or-break.

0:24:040:24:08

The dream is to both be able to work during the day

0:24:080:24:11

and spend quality time with the kids in the evenings and the weekends,

0:24:110:24:14

and if I don't find the perfect job,

0:24:140:24:16

the move's definitely not going to happen.

0:24:160:24:19

Today, we'll give the couple the opportunity to explore

0:24:190:24:22

their chances of finding work down under.

0:24:220:24:25

First up, Paddy is paying a visit to a store in the South Yarra district

0:24:250:24:29

in Melbourne's premier fashion and retail strip.

0:24:290:24:32

He's meeting Tony Christakakis, the owner,

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to get the lowdown on his employment prospects.

0:24:350:24:38

I would like to get back into retail,

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and get back into working, to what I know that I can do best.

0:24:410:24:44

I don't think you'd have a problem,

0:24:440:24:47

as an entry-level, getting a job.

0:24:470:24:50

Your CV reads really, really well.

0:24:510:24:54

It's a good start, but are there any jobs?

0:24:540:24:57

If you're looking at getting full-time work as soon as you

0:24:580:25:01

come across, I'll be absolutely honest with you -

0:25:010:25:05

virtually impossible.

0:25:050:25:07

Your best opportunities to get work in retail would be either

0:25:070:25:11

as a casual...

0:25:110:25:13

or a permanent part-timer.

0:25:130:25:16

It's potentially devastating news for Paddy.

0:25:160:25:19

Part-time irregular work is exactly what he was trying to get away from

0:25:190:25:23

in Australia.

0:25:230:25:25

Across town, Erin is meeting up with Jarrad Skeen,

0:25:250:25:28

managing director of a recruitment firm specialising in IT and digital

0:25:280:25:33

innovation. They regularly place business analysts with

0:25:330:25:36

work backgrounds such as Erin's.

0:25:360:25:38

I've had a look through your CV, Erin,

0:25:380:25:40

and the good news is your skills are definitely transferable as an IT

0:25:400:25:43

business analyst here in Australia.

0:25:430:25:45

The market here, in Melbourne in particular, is certainly very high

0:25:450:25:48

in the demand for IT business analysts.

0:25:480:25:51

My suggestion, though, is that there could be some other training that you might want to consider,

0:25:510:25:55

particularly around Agile Methodology, and that training will certainly set you up as a business

0:25:550:25:59

analyst for industries that maybe you haven't worked in before,

0:25:590:26:03

and the training around Agile or PRINCE2 would be highly regarded.

0:26:030:26:07

Oh, that's excellent.

0:26:070:26:09

For the McGuinnesses, family life is important.

0:26:090:26:12

Can Erin achieve the work-life balance she's hoping for?

0:26:120:26:15

I think the employment market in Melbourne and Australia will broadly

0:26:150:26:19

understand the need for flexibility,

0:26:190:26:22

and I think you can find certainly a good opportunity that would support

0:26:220:26:26

flexibility and certainly offer general office hours.

0:26:260:26:30

Oh, that sounds great.

0:26:300:26:31

What about the all-important question - the salary?

0:26:310:26:34

If I did decide to make the move to Melbourne,

0:26:340:26:37

what sort of salary would I be expecting for a business analyst?

0:26:370:26:40

You should expect a starting salary of £64,000 per year.

0:26:400:26:43

That could rise to around £75,000 per year over about a two to

0:26:430:26:49

-three-year period.

-Wow, that's a lot more than what I expected.

0:26:490:26:52

Um... Nearly double than what I'm on in the UK, so..

0:26:520:26:56

So are you pretty happy with that number, then, I take it?

0:26:560:26:58

Yeah, no, that's... Definitely.

0:26:580:27:00

-It's a pleasure.

-All good news from Erin's perspective.

0:27:000:27:04

Back with Paddy, he's hearing about his potential earning power.

0:27:040:27:07

Working on the basis of 30 hours a week,

0:27:090:27:11

you would be looking at roughly £23,000 per annum.

0:27:110:27:16

For part-time, that's pretty good.

0:27:170:27:19

On a full-time basis, again,

0:27:190:27:21

subject to that hour mix, £26,000, £27,000 for...

0:27:210:27:26

a year, for an extra eight hours a week work.

0:27:260:27:31

-I saw your eyes light up.

-That's something I couldn't imagine back home.

0:27:310:27:34

Well, it might not have been 100% good news,

0:27:340:27:37

but things have ended on a high for Paddy.

0:27:370:27:40

The dream is definitely back on track.

0:27:400:27:42

This means a lot today, and, going forward,

0:27:420:27:45

I'm hoping it can only get better.

0:27:450:27:47

Back in the centre of town, he and Erin meet up to compare notes.

0:27:470:27:51

-So, how was your day?

-To be honest, it went really well.

0:27:510:27:55

If I was to go in as a part-time assistant, working 30 hours per

0:27:550:27:58

week, I could potentially earn up to £22,000 to £23,000 per year.

0:27:580:28:03

-Very good.

-Yeah, I was really shocked when I heard that,

0:28:030:28:07

especially for working part-time. So, how was your day?

0:28:070:28:10

I went to a recruitment agency today and met a guy

0:28:100:28:12

called Jarrad who was the managing director,

0:28:120:28:14

and told me that there was a good market for business analysts in

0:28:140:28:18

Melbourne and that I shouldn't have any issue getting a job.

0:28:180:28:21

-So, what about your salary?

-He actually told me that I would start

0:28:210:28:24

off at a minimum of £64,000, and after a year or two,

0:28:240:28:28

-that it would move up to £75,000.

-Wow, that's fantastic news!

0:28:280:28:32

Well, no prizes for guessing how this vote goes.

0:28:330:28:36

Based on our work meetings today, our vote goes to...

0:28:380:28:40

-BOTH:

-Australia!

0:28:470:28:49

With over double the salary and the ease of getting a job,

0:28:490:28:52

you know, of course I was going to pick Australia.

0:28:520:28:54

You know, after the disappointing news we had yesterday, you know,

0:28:540:28:57

knowing that we could potentially afford to live in here in Australia

0:28:570:29:00

and have the dream home that we need, and possibly have the

0:29:000:29:03

lifestyle that we need here in Australia, it's great to hear.

0:29:030:29:06

Halfway through their trial week, and we're no closer to knowing

0:29:130:29:17

whether Erin and Paddy are going to agree

0:29:170:29:20

on where their future lies.

0:29:200:29:22

What's certain is that, with the all-important financial reality

0:29:220:29:26

check, and messages from home still to come,

0:29:260:29:29

things are bound to get even more nail-biting.

0:29:290:29:34

First, though, can a day sampling the sort of lifestyle the family

0:29:340:29:38

might be able to enjoy in Melbourne

0:29:380:29:40

get the Australian dream back on track?

0:29:400:29:43

TRAIN WHISTLE HOOTS It's all aboard,

0:29:430:29:45

as the family take a ride on the Puffing Billy railway train.

0:29:450:29:49

And first up, they're getting a VIP tour of the engine.

0:29:490:29:54

OK, guys, do you want to have a look in the fire?

0:29:540:29:56

Hot stuff, eh?

0:29:560:29:59

TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS

0:29:590:30:01

Quick! The train's about to leave. Time to find your seats.

0:30:020:30:06

All aboard!

0:30:070:30:10

The railway has been running for over 100 years,

0:30:100:30:13

and gives everyone spectacular views of the Aussie landscape...

0:30:130:30:16

-TRAIN WHISTLE HOOTS

-Whoop-whoop!

0:30:160:30:19

..as it winds through 40km of temperate rainforest.

0:30:190:30:22

TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS

0:30:220:30:25

Are you going to wave at everybody?

0:30:250:30:27

At the journey's end, there are some special people waiting to meet the

0:30:320:30:35

family - Erin's Australian aunts and cousins, and not surprisingly,

0:30:350:30:39

they're bursting with excitement.

0:30:390:30:42

Haven't seen Erin since ten years ago,

0:30:420:30:45

and haven't met the boys and dying to meet them.

0:30:450:30:48

It's the first time that Erin's family and her young boys

0:30:480:30:51

have ever met, but immediately they're getting on like best friends.

0:30:510:30:57

And while the boys play, Erin gets the chance to catch up.

0:30:570:31:01

-Your mum does not want you to come.

-No.

0:31:010:31:04

And as I said, "It's Erin's choice."

0:31:040:31:06

That's why I'm really here myself, to have a look around for my family.

0:31:060:31:10

And make your mind up, yeah, yeah.

0:31:100:31:13

Erin is reminded that, back home,

0:31:130:31:15

her own mother is strongly opposed to any move down under, so

0:31:150:31:19

maybe a phone call home, telling her what a fun time they're all having

0:31:190:31:23

is just what's needed.

0:31:230:31:25

Good luck, Erin.

0:31:250:31:27

-Hello, Mum.

-'Well, where are youse?

0:31:270:31:29

'Have you had your lovely fun day today?'

0:31:290:31:31

We're all having a barbecue and the kids are having an absolute ball.

0:31:310:31:34

'Yeah, so they're all going to have an Australian accent, do you think?'

0:31:340:31:38

Well, you never know. They might pick up a bit of an Aussie twang.

0:31:380:31:40

-They might get rid of it in two weeks, I think.

-LAUGHTER

0:31:400:31:43

'Yous take care now, and come home soon.'

0:31:430:31:45

-OK, love you.

-Miss you.

-See you. Sounds like she's really missing out a little bit.

0:31:450:31:48

I'm sure she'd love to be here with everybody.

0:31:480:31:50

If Paddy has his way, of course,

0:31:500:31:52

family gatherings like this will be a regular occurrence, but for now,

0:31:520:31:56

well, it's the chance to get a special memory of the occasion.

0:31:560:32:00

-ALL:

-Cheese!

0:32:000:32:02

Meeting extended family,

0:32:030:32:05

Paddy is certain that today has been a game-changer.

0:32:050:32:08

Knowing that, with moving to Australia,

0:32:080:32:10

we have these things that offer us a better lifestyle.

0:32:100:32:13

-For me, the dream is still on.

-Are you having good fun?

0:32:130:32:16

But, when all is said and done, Erin's mum is still a big issue.

0:32:160:32:21

I do feel it would be a little bit selfish of me to take the boys to

0:32:210:32:24

the other side of the world. I still am really not sure what I want

0:32:240:32:27

to do at the end of the week.

0:32:270:32:29

So how will the couple vote?

0:32:290:32:31

Based on a great day out, our vote goes to...

0:32:310:32:34

-Australia.

-Australia. So, you voted for Australia?

0:32:400:32:43

Yes, I missed Mum today and it would have been nice for her to be here,

0:32:430:32:46

but there's a lot of love over here on the other side of the world.

0:32:460:32:49

I'm absolutely delighted that you've decided to vote for Australia today.

0:32:490:32:52

You know, to be honest, I wasn't expecting that.

0:32:520:32:55

Looks like Paddy's dream's back on track, but to avoid it being

0:33:020:33:06

kicked into touch, the finances will have to stack up.

0:33:060:33:10

Getting the right price for their home in the UK

0:33:100:33:12

could be a good start.

0:33:120:33:14

The couple think it's worth £220,00.

0:33:140:33:17

Will two local estate agents agree?

0:33:170:33:20

-Looks really good.

-Looks well, doesn't it?

0:33:200:33:23

The boys love them toys. I love tidying them up as well, after them.

0:33:240:33:28

A nice sizeable living room, perfect for a family.

0:33:280:33:31

Nice, and lots of natural light getting in.

0:33:310:33:33

There's a lovely open-plan kitchen area.

0:33:350:33:38

Really nicely decorated.

0:33:380:33:39

Really quality appliances. A real hub of the house.

0:33:390:33:42

That's a beautiful master bedroom.

0:33:440:33:46

Double-sized bedroom.

0:33:460:33:48

Nice fitted sliding wardrobes.

0:33:480:33:51

Beautiful en suite. It's actually quite large.

0:33:510:33:53

You live in that en-suite.

0:33:530:33:56

Good-sized double room.

0:33:560:33:59

Obviously a kid's room. Really good space, plenty of light.

0:33:590:34:02

A big double bed for such a small child.

0:34:020:34:04

At today's market, I'd value the property at £205,000.

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For a quick sale, I'd put the property on the market with

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offers over £195,000.

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I would value this house at £185,000.

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For a quick sale, I would put it on the market at £180,000.

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So how do the couple feel?

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The first valuation I thought was more on point.

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Compared to what we bought it for, you know,

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we've done well on the property. I think, overall, it's positive.

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While the boys stay with the childminder,

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Mum and Dad prepare to tackle the price of everyday living.

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We've provided a comparison of costs in the UK and Australia,

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starting with the weekly supermarket shop.

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-Blueberries.

-So, £1.50 back in the UK...

-Mm-hmm.

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..and £6.84 here in Australia.

0:34:510:34:54

Eh, well, I think we'll be substituting that fruit.

0:34:540:34:56

Carrots, 45p back in the UK...

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over here, it's £1.43.

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We love our Sunday dinners. We'll have a look at the pork joint here.

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Back home, £6.72, and in Australia,

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it's £12.83,

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which is a massive difference of £6.11.

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-I wonder what it's like to eat out?

-CHUCKLING

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So what does it all add up to?

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£120.76.

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So we'd be worse off by £32.09.

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We're not talking hundreds of pounds here.

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I think we should be able to recover that cost somewhere else.

0:35:310:35:34

An extra £32 a week for food down under doesn't seem to have fazed

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the couple, but what about the bigger outgoings?

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With a move down under,

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the McGuinness' mortgage could almost double in Australia.

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Wow! The difference would be £553 per month.

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That's nearly double our mortgage.

0:35:530:35:55

No, that's... I didn't expect that whatsoever.

0:35:550:35:58

And without the support of family,

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the topic of childcare makes the news even worse.

0:36:000:36:02

Over here, we're looking at £1,160 per month.

0:36:040:36:08

That's...

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That's a difference of £1,000.

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It's not looking too good.

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These figures are actually a bit scary.

0:36:160:36:19

Will the Australian salaries rescue Paddy's dream?

0:36:190:36:23

So, my income in Australia,

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it would be £4,133 per month.

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I could potentially earn up to £1,720 per month.

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So that would give us a difference of £2,631 per month.

0:36:340:36:39

And what does it mean for the overall figures?

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It looks like we're going to be better off in Australia

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-by £751 per month.

-Per month?

-Yeah.

-Wow!

0:36:460:36:51

For me, to look at them figures, it's great news.

0:36:510:36:53

I'm actually ecstatic.

0:36:530:36:56

I think I know which way this vote is going to go.

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Based on our reality check today, our vote goes to...

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-Australia!

-Australia!

0:37:090:37:11

So, you voted for Australia again?

0:37:110:37:13

I was a little bit shocked with the house prices but, you know,

0:37:130:37:15

when we did the overall calculations,

0:37:150:37:17

it looks like we...we'll be far better off.

0:37:170:37:20

To know that you voted for Australia has made me really happy again,

0:37:200:37:23

to know that we can be comfortable over here,

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with comfortable salaries starting off,

0:37:260:37:28

and still have a proper lifestyle.

0:37:280:37:30

Next, Erin and Paddy sit down to watch messages

0:37:380:37:41

-from loved ones back home.

-Hi, guys.

-Hi, guys.

0:37:410:37:44

Hi.

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Patrick is a wonderful fella.

0:37:450:37:47

He's not great with the DIY, but he's a really, really good father,

0:37:470:37:51

and he works very, very hard.

0:37:510:37:53

Erin is fun-loving, she's somebody you like to be around.

0:37:530:37:56

She's a fantastic friend and a fantastic mother.

0:37:560:37:59

Alex, um, I always used to have fun with him,

0:37:590:38:04

and I still do.

0:38:040:38:06

And Jude, I like him so much.

0:38:060:38:09

Patrick and Erin came up one day. They just said,

0:38:090:38:12

"We've a surprise to tell you," and I said, "What is it?"

0:38:120:38:14

"Me and Erin are thinking of going to Australia."

0:38:140:38:17

I actually burst into tears.

0:38:170:38:19

I can't even speak at the moment.

0:38:200:38:22

It's just the very thought of those boys in Australia.

0:38:220:38:25

I'm Nanny Mary, and that's it.

0:38:250:38:27

Because they're my two grandsons, and they're my daughter's children,

0:38:270:38:30

-and they're special.

-Well,

0:38:300:38:32

we can't complain about their decision, cos we did it.

0:38:320:38:34

Let them go for it, and we need to support them to the hilt.

0:38:340:38:38

I would be completely for it.

0:38:380:38:41

I do believe it is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

0:38:410:38:45

And I'd miss wee Alex and Jude now, really, because

0:38:450:38:49

they...I wouldn't see them at all.

0:38:490:38:51

Maybe only on Facebook or something like that, you know?

0:38:510:38:54

And I don't have Facebook.

0:38:540:38:56

I hope youse come back.

0:38:560:38:58

I'll miss you so, so, so, so much.

0:38:580:39:00

Whatever decision you make, know that we will always love you,

0:39:000:39:04

and we're here for you.

0:39:040:39:06

Look, make your decision for you.

0:39:060:39:08

Whatever it is, we will support. But, um...

0:39:080:39:11

-do what's right for you.

-I will back youse up,

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but I'm hoping that it's terrible weather in Australia

0:39:160:39:20

youse don't have a good time,

0:39:200:39:21

and youse come back and make your decision to stay here.

0:39:210:39:25

I can't see this being as part of my life,

0:39:250:39:27

you sitting over there and me here.

0:39:270:39:30

Everyone else seems to be onboard and supporting it,

0:39:300:39:33

and I am going to support youse, but this will be a big wrench for me.

0:39:330:39:37

Remember, it's for you as a family.

0:39:370:39:39

And don't forget to ring home.

0:39:390:39:41

Seeing the messages and, obviously, yes,

0:39:440:39:47

we've been having a good time here, but it sort of...

0:39:470:39:50

brings it back home that, yes,

0:39:500:39:52

-we're going to be leaving a lot of people.

-We rely a lot on your mum.

0:39:520:39:56

If it was just me and you, it would be fine,

0:39:560:39:58

but the fact that she's going to be so devastated,

0:39:580:40:01

it makes it really tough for me.

0:40:010:40:03

So, if this was YOUR decision,

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what would YOU do?

0:40:090:40:11

Choose what's best for your family and move?

0:40:110:40:14

Or listen to the wisdom of those who have been there,

0:40:140:40:17

done that, and stay?

0:40:170:40:19

As Paddy and Erin McGuinness approach their final vote,

0:40:190:40:22

we're about to see if their trial week down under has helped them make

0:40:220:40:26

up their minds about the dilemma.

0:40:260:40:28

Or has it simply driven them further apart?

0:40:280:40:32

As they prepare to depart, Paddy is able to reflect on what, for him,

0:40:330:40:37

has been an unforgettable week.

0:40:370:40:39

It has been my dream to come to Australia,

0:40:390:40:41

and this week has exceeded my expectations.

0:40:410:40:44

I've seen it can open doors for me that I could not possibly have back

0:40:440:40:47

home. I believe there is better opportunities for us out here,

0:40:470:40:51

-and I want to take them with both hands.

-Are you digging?

0:40:510:40:54

For Erin, the issue is slightly more complicated.

0:40:540:40:58

I've always had in the back of my mind that I have two homes,

0:40:580:41:00

and I wasn't sure which one is actually home.

0:41:000:41:03

But, for Paddy, this is about where their children call home.

0:41:030:41:06

The benefits of the life they could have over here,

0:41:060:41:09

the upbringing that I possibly couldn't give them

0:41:090:41:13

back home in Ireland.

0:41:130:41:15

Something that Erin can indeed empathise with.

0:41:150:41:18

The boys, over the last two days in particular, have just had an

0:41:180:41:21

absolute ball. The outdoor lifestyle suits them so well,

0:41:210:41:24

and at the end of the day, they're absolutely exhausted.

0:41:240:41:26

-Nearly hit the helicopter.

-Ultimately, however,

0:41:260:41:30

it's a situation that risks still leaving them divided.

0:41:300:41:33

I'm having to make a decision between what's going to make my

0:41:330:41:36

husband happy and what's going to make my mum happy.

0:41:360:41:40

My gut feeling is I'm just really not sure if I can go ahead and leave

0:41:400:41:44

-my mum behind.

-So what way will they decide to vote?

0:41:440:41:49

It's time for the moment of truth.

0:41:490:41:52

After an amazing week in Melbourne, our vote goes to...

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-BOTH:

-Australia!

0:42:100:42:12

-You went for it again!

-LAUGHTER

0:42:120:42:15

So, I've convinced you, then?

0:42:150:42:16

Well, not so much you, but, yeah,

0:42:160:42:19

every day has been getting better and better and, you know,

0:42:190:42:21

everything on paper ticks all the boxes that,

0:42:210:42:24

yes, I think we could, we could make it here as a family.

0:42:240:42:27

For me to know now that you have chosen Australia

0:42:270:42:31

has made me really feel happy.

0:42:310:42:33

I'm willing to work as hard as I can to prove this.

0:42:330:42:35

-I'm on top of the world.

-It's going to be really tough, saying goodbye

0:42:350:42:38

to Mum, but I'm hopeful that she'll come and visit us.

0:42:380:42:42

So, I've said we're moving to Australia, I've made your dreams

0:42:420:42:44

-come true, I think I deserve a hug.

-You do.

0:42:440:42:47

Come on, let me give you one.

0:42:470:42:49

In the end, despite the emotional pleas from back home,

0:42:550:42:59

the McGuinnesses have decided that their future lies in a part of

0:42:590:43:03

Erin's past, in Australia.

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Whatever move they make next,

0:43:070:43:09

we'll be following their progress with interest, and of course

0:43:090:43:12

wishing them the very best of luck.

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