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Welcome to Wanted Down Under,

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the show that catapults a British family right across

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to the other side of the world

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to help them make the biggest decision of their life -

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whether to stay in the UK or to move to New Zealand.

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Karen Galloway is desperate to move with her family to New Zealand.

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I just really want to do it.

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At the minute I'm so excited, I could burst!

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They're tempted by a brand new start in a stunning country.

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But it's a long way to go when you're leaving loved ones behind.

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I'm going to miss her so much!

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Karen's husband, Lee, has a daughter from a previous relationship

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who he'd be leaving back in the UK.

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I don't want them to go.

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But, after less than 24 hours in New Zealand, disaster strikes.

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This trip's almost over before it's even begun!

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So he's in hospital.

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I'm literally on my own!

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With its magnificent landscape

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and small population of only four million,

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New Zealand is many people's idea of the perfect place

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to get away from it all.

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To apply to live in New Zealand as a skilled migrant,

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you must be between the ages of 20 and 55

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and be on the skills shortage list.

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But a move down under is never straightforward.

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We've given another British family the opportunity

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to spend a week down under

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to see if it's all they've dreamt it would be.

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After that, they'll have to make a decision, one way or the other.

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To stay in the UK or to move to New Zealand.

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Karen and Lee Galloway live in the Liverpool suburb of Whiston

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with their three children,

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17-year-old James and toddlers Harvey and Poppy.

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They've lived here all their lives

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and mum, Karen is desperate for a fresh start.

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I first thought about moving away, far away when I had my babies.

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James went through a bad time growing up, he got bullied.

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I don't want to go through that again with Harvey and Poppy,

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I can see Harvey going the same way as James -

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he's got the same temperament -

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and I really don't want to bring them up round here.

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If they move down under,

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Karen's oldest son, James will be leaving his biological father behind.

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Me and my dad passed our bike test together.

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It took me twice though, cos I failed the first time!

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He won't say nothing at first and he'll keep quiet about it,

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but it will really have an effect on him. It's going to be hard.

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I am extremely worried because he's grown up round here,

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he's an adult practically,

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so I'm taking him away from everything he knows.

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That's not Karen's only problem.

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Her husband, Lee is still unsure about a move.

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He's an electrician by trade

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and his qualifications could get the family a skilled migrant visa.

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It is all dependent on me getting work over there.

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But there's just one thing holding him back.

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His ten year old daughter, Freya, visits every fortnight

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and is a big part of the family.

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Freya's a big thing for me...

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I don't know whether she'd cope or

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-whether I'd cope, more than anything, you know.

-Yeah.

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But family and friends can visit,

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but it's just Freya, just my daughter.

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Otherwise we'd be there now, I think, wouldn't we?

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Freya's just as much a part of the family as us,

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she's got everything here, she's included in everything.

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She doesn't live here, but she's part of the family.

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She's going to struggle, she's very close to Lee, a proper daddy's girl.

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They get on really well.

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She loves her daddy very much.

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She's been great, you know.

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Every time we talk about it, she's fine,

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but it's not actually happened yet,

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so you don't know how she's going to cope

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or what's going to happen, you know.

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Buried treasure?

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Yeah!

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The Galloways have a large extended family on their doorstep.

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Everyone's feeling the pressure of making such a big decision.

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I would say I have been 90% that I want to do it,

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I want to go to New Zealand,

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I want to start a new life for me and my family.

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And now it's getting closer,

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I will admit it,

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it's hitting me like a slap in the face

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and I'm realising now it's a massive thing we're doing.

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It looks like anything could happen,

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so to help the Galloways decide, they're going to visit Auckland.

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Situated at the top of New Zealand's North Island,

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Auckland is known as the City of Sails

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and is a perfect base to explore the area.

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With a housing budget of £150,000

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the Galloways should be able to find plenty of suitable homes.

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We've found three possible lifestyles for our family,

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each one offering a brand new way of life

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for them to try on their budget.

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But which one will be the most suitable?

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Properties are a lot better value in the country.

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Spacious family homes

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can cost around £150,000,

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so bang on the Galloways' budget.

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But if you want that dream place, you'll have to spend a lot more.

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To match his UK salary of £24,000

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Lee would have to find work as a commercial electrician,

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but the big jobs are in town,

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so he'll be looking at an hour's commute to the city.

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Coming home to a rural paradise like this, however, could be tempting.

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So, very different from their life in the UK,

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but what about the second option?

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The Galloways will have to venture into the suburbs

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to find a home

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on their £150,000 budget.

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And they may have to stretch

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their finances for more space.

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Lee would have a 15 minute commute to work in the metropolis.

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Auckland is a fast-growing city and electricians like Lee are in demand.

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If he works overtime, he could take home around £25,000,

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about the same as he earns in the UK.

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That all looks very inviting, but what about the third option?

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Auckland's coastline epitomises the calm and beauty many people crave

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but properties a walk from the beach can be pricey.

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Homes like this cost around £300,000, so double the Galloways' budget,

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but if they look further inland,

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they should be able to snap up something that won't break the bank.

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The booming tourist trade means there should be work for Lee,

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but he may have to do a half-hour commute to the city

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to earn more than £20,000.

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Three very different possibilities there for the Galloways to try,

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but which one did we decide would suit them best?

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We thought the city option would be the best for the Galloways.

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It has a family-friendly atmosphere and Lee should find good work.

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And with open beaches only a short drive away,

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Karen will get to experience the tranquillity she craves.

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We've lined up some properties for them to view...

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This is the best out of the three.

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But still it's nothing like the ones at home.

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..And organised a job for Lee to try out...

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It's a big change, starting again somewhere else.

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..As well as giving them a taste of the New Zealand lifestyle,

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but will it all get too much.

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Because Harvey and Poppy are only little,

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they don't know that they wouldn't see me again.

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It's going to be the hardest thing we've ever done and, you know,

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it might be the worst thing we've ever done.

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None of the Galloways can foresee how turbulent the week ahead will be,

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but it's time for them to take the plunge.

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The flight from Liverpool to Auckland takes the Galloways 32 hours

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and 12,000 miles from home.

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None of them have ever been this far away before,

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and leaving their loved ones at the airport

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even for a short trip like this wasn't easy.

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Tears off me mum!

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Because we're coming here to look at houses and see what it's like,

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I think that's what brought it home for her.

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They're tired now, they just want to get to bed, but brilliant!

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It took us ten minutes to wake them up on the plane,

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but they've been really, really good.

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We knew how long it was going to be

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but you don't realise until you do it!

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They're all excited about the adventures that lie ahead.

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-I'm excited!

-Really excited now!

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Looking forward to seeing the properties mainly,

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not so much the job!

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I just want to see it all, I want to take it all in.

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Meeting people, yeah, everything. I'm so excited!

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The whole family's future is at stake as they head out into the unknown.

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The Galloways will be staying in a house in a quiet suburb of Auckland.

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After 30 hours of travelling it will give them calm

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and space to relax before they start exploring.

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With four bedrooms and a large open-plan living area,

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there's plenty of space for the kids to roam.

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Which one is it?

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Let's hope the Galloways like it!

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D'you like it?

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Look!

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-Just so different!

-A lot different from ours.

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Everything about them is really different.

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Yeah, I love it! Absolutely love it!

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I suppose ours is open plan as well.

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I love this, but look at the landing there!

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Hello!

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Hello!

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Wow, I love this bit!

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It's clearly the kind of place they'd love,

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but would it be out of their reach to buy?

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At least they can enjoy it for now.

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Beautiful!

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Oh, my word! Look at the wardrobe!

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Now that's a bit different from the one I've got at home.

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We could play games in here, Poppy!

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Wow!

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It's a lot bigger. The houses look big, I like the ceilings.

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We'd never be able to afford anything of this size at home.

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I mean I've barely got a wardrobe at home.

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That's like bigger than my kitchen!

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There's something they didn't expect outside.

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Wow! Look at that, Pop!

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Isn't it cold!

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Karen's got culture shock of the highest order.

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The house is completely different to what we're used to.

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I'm surprised how fun it looks, to be honest.

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It does look... Everything's different.

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I don't know why I'm surprised, it's a completely different country.

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I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am surprised.

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-It's nice though.

-It's quite foreign!

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Yeah.

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-Yeah, I love it!

-I like the style of house.

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As soon as we'd flown in, I thought "I'm going to like it".

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So she likes it, which is more than can be said for James.

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It seems very similar to England.

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I don't think there's that much gained,

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to justify the distance we're coming.

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It's the other side of the world and it's not that much better.

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So far, so bad for James, then.

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And for Lee, his daughter Freya is already playing on his mind.

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Freya was fine but as I say, it's not happened yet.

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It will be completely different when it is, you know,

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or if it does, but she was fine.

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-I think Freya's really coping with it well, isn't she?

-Yeah.

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Well, you say that,

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but talking about it is completely different, isn't it?

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The ball's started rolling now.

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It's just all more real, isn't it?

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But little do they know how real it's just about to get!

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The rental accommodation is just to the Galloways' taste,

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but sometimes the unexpected can happen.

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This trip could be over before it's even begun!

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During their first night down under,

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Lee started experiencing severe pain in his leg.

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In fact, the pain became so unbearable

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that Lee admitted himself to hospital.

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SIREN

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The following morning,

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Karen is trying her best to carry on as normal.

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When we were on the plane, Lee's leg started hurting,

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swelling up and going really red.

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And then when we've got off the plane,

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it's got progressively worse.

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It's got very hot.

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And just the pain...

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When he was on the plane,

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we thought his leg was swelling up and stuff

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and then as it got worse we did think it could be a DVT.

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What a nightmare!

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Karen's concerned Lee may have developed a condition

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called Deep Vein Thrombosis or DVT, which can be life-threatening.

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Every long-haul flyer should be aware of what it is

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and how best to avoid it.

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DVT is a condition in which blood clots form, usually in the legs.

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It can result from a person sitting down

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for long periods of time without moving.

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It mainly affects people with underlying health problems.

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The first signs are often a tightening of the calf in the leg.

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The fact that you feel a bit stiff and you can't move around so much.

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It just feels a bit uncomfortable, like you've been kicked in the calf.

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If it's not diagnosed and treated early, the condition can prove fatal.

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It's important that this Deep Vein Thrombosis is diagnosed very quickly

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because if it's not in the early stages,

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then the patient or the traveller may go on to develop coughs,

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and coughing-up of blood.

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These clots can migrate or travel up the veins through to the heart.

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To reduce the risk of developing DVT on a flight,

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you need to keep the blood flowing to the legs by moving around the cabin

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and stretching your legs regularly.

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But if you have any other symptoms, see a doctor immediately.

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In such situations as leg pain, a little bit of a temperature,

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feeling a little bit unwell,

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they should report to the nearest accident and medical centre.

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The Galloways imagined living the dream life in New Zealand,

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but what was supposed to be a glorious week down under

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has turned into a nightmare!

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Karen's been stuck at home

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and not only has she been worried about Lee,

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she's experiencing first-hand the isolation

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of being so far from her loved ones.

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I don't know where I am, I don't know who to go to,

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I don't know what phone calls to make.

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I'm literally on my own.

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So it's a bit of a blow, to be honest,

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I wasn't expecting it, but these things happen.

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Karen can't wait to get to the hospital to see how Lee is.

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After a full body scan, medics have diagnosed Lee with cellulitis -

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an infection caused by a previous wound which deteriorated on the flight.

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Dad, is it this foot?

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It was more red, basically, than swollen but it's loads better.

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-I couldn't touch it the other day, but...

-What is this for?

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Although not DVT, cellulitis can also be dangerous if left untreated,

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so Lee is staying in for observation.

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I couldn't believe it!

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-What are them arrows for?

-Two days!

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When he said "I'm keeping you in" I was like, "Ohhhh!", I was gutted,

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couldn't believe it!

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So what does Lee think of the trip so far?

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I haven't seen New Zealand, but the hospitals are good!

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They've been really good here.

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But this is real life, like, isn't it?

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This is living New Zealand life, isn't it!

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No holiday for us!

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That's the case.

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Mwah! I've missed ya!

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It's a relief for everyone to know Lee is going to be OK,

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but all Karen and the family can do is sit and wait.

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When we first came, I was really excited,

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but with what's happened with Lee, it's like really unfortunate,

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because it just feels like I'm at home, doing the tea for the kids.

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It's just very normal.

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It's a long way to come and a lot of expense to just be here,

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it's just the same as being at home.

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So, has all this changed Karen's mind about the move?

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I'm not saying nothing yet.

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We'll see how it goes, see if we get a feel for the place and stuff.

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I'll let you know, but I'm quite indifferent at the minute.

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It's hardly the perfect introduction to a life down under.

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This trip certainly isn't turning out as the Galloways had hoped,

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but at least Lee is on the road to recovery.

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We've taken Karen and the children out to try and cheer them up.

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They've come to a children's session at the local library.

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Hopefully, they'll all feel a little less lonely!

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Hi to everybody and hello to our special visitors today,

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Harvey and Poppy who have been on a plane and come a long way.

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We're really pleased to have you here at our library today.

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It looks as though Poppy and Harvey are settling right in.

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And even Karen's joining in!

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If they were to move to New Zealand, Karen would hope to meet new friends through events like this.

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It's quite interesting now having a child - Charlie's my first,

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it's such an introduction to people.

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I've met people that I would never have normally met through work or...

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Well, this is going to be my route,

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meeting people while I'm here,

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because obviously I'm not going to be able to work

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so it's through the kids and school.

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It's a really easy introduction when you've got kids, it's not so hard

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and there's a girl that goes here, Vicky, she's an English girl.

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And she's got little twins and we've just met her through this.

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Karen's had a positive day after all and she can't wait to speak to Lee!

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I have met friends and chatted and stuff and sung songs.

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Lee gives her some good news, too.

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He's been discharged.

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Cool. So we'll get there!

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Karen's had a rollercoaster of a day.

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With Lee on his way home

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and a successful trip to meet some other mums,

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Karen's finally feeling positive about being in New Zealand.

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Actually at the minute I'm so excited I could burst.

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I really am!

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If you were to ask me now "Do you want to go home?", I'd say "No, I'll stay please".

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Just speaking to people and getting out the house,

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I mean we had a bit of a hiccup with Lee

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and there was getting out and seeing it and realising

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that I will actually make friends...

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Look at the kids on the beach!

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You don't have to drive to the beach.

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You're next to the library, and the beach is are on your doorstep.

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It's like, you just don't get that at home.

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I just really want to do it.

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In my heart of hearts, I just think it's the right thing

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for us as a family to do, I really do.

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I'm just really excited at the minute, I really am!

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It's finally time to check out the all-important property.

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Back in the UK, the Galloways live in a three-bedroom terrace in Liverpool.

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They believe it could be worth around £150,000.

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It's a small house for their growing family

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and they'd like to live in a quieter and safer area.

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In New Zealand they're looking for a spacious property with some land

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and a rural or sea view, but their £150,000 budget

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might not get them exactly what they're looking for.

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We found them three properties in the Auckland suburb of North Shore.

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It's good for children and a short commute to the city for Lee.

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First up is a three-bedroom property on the market for around £130,000.

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It's below their budget, but only has three bedrooms.

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Estate agent, Helene Brownie, is keen to show off her prize offerings.

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Has he got you a flower?

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This is nice for its price. It's got this extra piece here, the foyer.

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So it's west-facing which means we get lots of afternoon sun down here

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and this would be a really nice area to use in the summer

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with an outdoor table or a spa pool just to get away from the sun,

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so I apologise there's not too much of it today!

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Mmm. They don't seem too impressed with the foyer!

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Time to go inside, that's if Helene can unlock the door!

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TV bloopers, this bit!

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That's it. OK. Come on through.

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We're in! Let's hope they like it!

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It's at the very start of your budget.

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You've got exclusive views out here.

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Mmm, 'exclusive views' of a bush and a fence!

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Not exactly the rural view they were hoping for!

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Is the interior any more exciting?

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That's the old electrics.

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As we said, the old style, isn't it!

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-You're an electrician, aren't you?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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Mmm, Helene was hoping Lee might be excited by the challenge

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of modernising this home's electrics. I'm not sure he is!

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Would the master bedroom be any more electrifying?

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The room is met with a deathly silence.

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Nice, but it's small, isn't it?

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It's nice, but it is small.

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Helene's not giving up easily!

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So, for a fraction under 300 for the North Shore,

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this is actually very good buying.

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I mean, it's probably no bigger than ours at home, is it?

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It's just you want to go bigger and better, don't you?

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Oh, dear!

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This cosy pad with "exclusive views" hasn't exactly sparked the Galloways' imagination.

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-I didn't think it was going to be as small.

-No, it's very small.

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It's what we're used to at home. It's very dated, isn't it?

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But I think they're all going to be, aren't they?

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To a certain extent, you know.

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But it is a bit smaller than we'd expected.

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Onwards and upwards - we hope!

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Property Two is on the market for around £150,000

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and right at the top of their budget.

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It's got open plan living space,

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three bedrooms and a beautiful garden.

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These really are exclusive views!

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Are shoes all right if we wipe 'em?

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Thank you.

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Everyone in?

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This is much bigger than the other one, it's more of a family home.

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So, you know, they made it nice. Have a look around.

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They don't need the third bedroom, so they're using it as a work area.

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-Everything's, ugh, you know, small!

-Bit cramped, isn't it!

-Cramped.

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Karen and Lee don't seem over the moon about this one.

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They were hoping for a bit more space.

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That's smaller than ours, isn't it? Ours is small, but it's smaller.

0:23:030:23:08

Oh, dear! Even a deluxe spa bath doesn't interest them!

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Hopefully, the garden might impress the Galloways a bit more.

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That is amazing, absolutely amazing!

0:23:170:23:21

This is what my idea of New Zealand is!

0:23:210:23:23

-Yes.

-I'm just overwhelmed by that.

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I just think it's absolutely stunning!

0:23:250:23:28

Finally, they've found something they like.

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It's very, very peaceful and quiet.

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-That's what you'll pay your money for, isn't it?

-The view's nice.

0:23:350:23:39

-Do you want to come downstairs, Poppy?

-It's not your actual...

-House.

0:23:390:23:43

More lemon trees, Harv, look!

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There's grapefruit trees, Feijoa trees, lemons...

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And this is the underneath of the house,

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which is very good head-height

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if you wanted to develop it any further.

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This is where we could stick me mum!

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So you could develop under here, and it's all insulated

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and nice and dry for underneath a home.

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So ideal storage.

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Lee would want to adapt the house to make the most out of the garden.

0:24:090:24:14

I was thinking actually extend this so this is all enclosed as well

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and I'd have all this glass. This would all be glass-fronted.

0:24:190:24:23

There's bound to be loads of this.

0:24:230:24:25

-This would be like a living room, going back there.

-Yeah.

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It turns out Lee is an electrician cum architect cum interior designer!

0:24:280:24:34

It's now time to sort out the garden!

0:24:340:24:36

But you could build something down there, like a decking going out.

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There's loads, isn't there.

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I'd bring the fence in right down the other side,

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cut off the neighbours that you've just met!

0:24:450:24:48

The Galloways seem to be getting excited. Or are they?

0:24:480:24:52

They wouldn't recognise it...

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Everything seems so dated, doesn't it, the houses?

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They're just differently built than over ours, aren't they,

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from their layout, everything!

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They look more...

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Prefab-ish, d'you know what I mean, not as solid as our houses.

0:25:040:25:10

It's not what I'd buy at all in Britain.

0:25:100:25:14

What a pity!

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Lee doesn't seem to like it, after all!

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Will Property Three be any better?

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It boasts five bedrooms, two bathrooms and also has a big garden.

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It's on the market for around £200,000 - £50,000 over budget.

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But will it show off a better quality of New Zealand housing?

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Nice, light, sunny home.

0:25:380:25:40

Yeah.

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You can see you're getting a lot more for your money now.

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You've got the five bedrooms,

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you've got the second living area which is ideal for guests.

0:25:480:25:52

Lee now has an eagle eye for build quality.

0:25:530:25:56

This house has tonnes of space.

0:25:560:25:59

It's very minimalist with some interesting interior decoration.

0:25:590:26:03

Now isn't that lemon sorbet yellow?

0:26:030:26:06

This is Helene's cream of the crop, so Lee, what's the verdict?

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It's a bit like our static caravans.

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More like prefab-ish, not solid, you know, like ours.

0:26:140:26:17

I know it looks like brick outside, but it's still only prefab.

0:26:170:26:21

I think I'd have to build my own if I was going to come.

0:26:210:26:24

This is the best out of the three,

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but still it's nothing like the ones at home.

0:26:270:26:30

Helene's got another trick up her sleeve.

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I know your mortgage is going to be a little bit more

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to achieve a property like this,

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but also, cos you've got the extra rooms you could have flatmates.

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It could bring you an extra income when you're not having guests.

0:26:440:26:48

Flatmates! Come on, Helene, they're not exactly students

0:26:480:26:52

and let's face it, today Lee's not buying!

0:26:520:26:55

It's not the house, it's the actual finish on the houses, if you know what I mean.

0:26:550:26:59

What do you mean, Lee? What's wrong with this?

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I mean, like all the bits that slope, like here,

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just all the little finishing details

0:27:050:27:09

and everything that add up and make it look...

0:27:090:27:12

You know. Like that wall there is all breeze-block.

0:27:120:27:16

You know, it's just the finishing of them.

0:27:160:27:18

It'd really wind Lee up!

0:27:210:27:23

It would.

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Perhaps the stunning brick facade will change Lee's mind.

0:27:240:27:28

They're single skin these, as well, just single skin brick.

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Yeah.

0:27:330:27:34

They're concrete blocks.

0:27:340:27:36

They're quite wide and they load them up

0:27:360:27:39

and then fill them up with concrete.

0:27:390:27:41

Helene's starting to get the feeling she's fighting a losing battle.

0:27:410:27:46

The brick is a veneer... it's just a cladding. Underneath...

0:27:460:27:50

-Oh, yeah, you can see it there.

-Underneath the weatherboards.

0:27:500:27:53

-It was the fashion back in the '70s to put the...

-Cladding.

0:27:530:27:57

And now it's not!

0:27:570:27:59

Poor Helene.

0:28:010:28:03

She's had a bit of a rough ride with these discerning customers.

0:28:030:28:06

The Galloways are starting to realise they might not be able to afford what they want on their budget.

0:28:060:28:12

I think wherever we end up, Lee, we're going to have to...

0:28:120:28:17

Oh, I know, I know.

0:28:170:28:18

It's not going to be what we're used to, is it?

0:28:180:28:21

The Galloways might have to spend a lot more

0:28:210:28:23

if they're going to find their dream home in New Zealand,

0:28:230:28:27

but at least the kids are enjoying themselves!

0:28:270:28:30

The Galloways have seen three very interesting properties.

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Property One was a fairly average three bedroom pad, well below budget,

0:28:340:28:38

with those rather uninspiring views.

0:28:380:28:41

Property Two was right on budget and although small inside,

0:28:410:28:45

certainly got Lee excited with its landscaped garden.

0:28:450:28:49

I'd bring the fence in, cut off the neighbours that you've just met!

0:28:490:28:53

And Property Three was a five bedroom delight in lemon and blue,

0:28:530:28:57

with some rather dated brick effects which didn't tickle their fancy!

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So, how will they vote?

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The houses in New Zealand feel too much like caravans,

0:29:050:29:07

so I'm going to say Britain.

0:29:070:29:09

Although the scenery and the location is amazing,

0:29:090:29:13

I have to say the houses are going to take some getting used to,

0:29:130:29:17

so I'm going to say the UK.

0:29:170:29:18

Although the plots are bigger,

0:29:180:29:21

but the actual house itself I'd say...

0:29:210:29:23

UK.

0:29:230:29:25

UK.

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It's the UK on properties, but for the Galloways,

0:29:270:29:31

it's not all just about bricks and mortar.

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Home is where the heart is.

0:29:330:29:35

Although they've been looking for somewhere to live,

0:29:350:29:38

they haven't forgotten who they might be leaving behind.

0:29:380:29:42

Freya is the constant though,

0:29:420:29:44

you know, with me.

0:29:440:29:46

If he can't do it, he can't do it, we don't do it, you know.

0:29:460:29:49

He's the one leaving Freya,

0:29:490:29:50

so at the end of the day the decision is all Lee's.

0:29:500:29:53

Will Lee be able to handle the pressure when he speaks to Freya?

0:29:530:29:57

Missing ya!

0:29:570:29:59

Hey, missing ya!

0:29:590:30:00

And what will happen when the whole family hears from their loved ones?

0:30:000:30:05

I'll miss him too much when he does go, I really will.

0:30:050:30:09

If you do go, I'll miss you and I'll love you lots.

0:30:090:30:13

She's just my world, and I'm going to miss her so much!

0:30:130:30:17

The properties weren't exactly what the Galloways were hoping for.

0:30:220:30:27

In order to afford the home and lifestyle they want,

0:30:270:30:31

Lee will have to find a good job.

0:30:310:30:34

Back in the UK, Lee's an experienced electrician

0:30:340:30:37

and owns a successful business.

0:30:370:30:40

He earns around £24,000 a year.

0:30:400:30:42

It would be a shame to give the business up now,

0:30:420:30:45

like, cos it's been going for three years and it's been good, you know.

0:30:450:30:49

In Australia, we set up a trial day with a firm who specialise

0:30:490:30:54

in installing electrical systems into new apartments.

0:30:540:30:57

Kerry-Marie Calendar is the boss.

0:30:570:31:00

Our company started 20 years ago. He have a staff of 65.

0:31:000:31:03

My husband started in his garage and he's grown from then.

0:31:030:31:06

We're a very family-orientated, happy business.

0:31:060:31:08

We want to fulfil all our customers' needs,

0:31:080:31:11

we're looking forward to meeting you.

0:31:110:31:13

-See you later. See you, babes.

-Bye.

0:31:130:31:15

As Lee heads off to work, both he and Karen are aware

0:31:150:31:19

of the importance of the day ahead.

0:31:190:31:21

Everything rides on the job.

0:31:210:31:24

It determines where we go, where we end up.

0:31:240:31:27

That's how we're getting out here, on Lee's trade,

0:31:270:31:30

so yeah, a lot riding on it.

0:31:300:31:32

Yeah, it's a combined thing with Freya and work.

0:31:320:31:35

We can't come over without it,

0:31:350:31:36

it's a lot of points on the immigration forms.

0:31:360:31:39

Lee will have to impress the new boss with his technical skills

0:31:440:31:47

and will want to earn a similar amount

0:31:470:31:49

to the £24,000 he earns in the UK.

0:31:490:31:52

We're going to go and meet the guys here, OK?

0:31:520:31:55

Kerry introduces Lee to Peter and Kevin,

0:31:550:31:58

who are going to show him the ropes.

0:31:580:32:00

-Good luck.

-Cheers, thanks very much.

-All the best.

-Cheers.

0:32:000:32:04

The first job is on a site across town,

0:32:040:32:06

but this job isn't on the scale Lee is used to.

0:32:060:32:09

He has to climb the height of an unfinished skyscraper

0:32:090:32:13

and there's no lift!

0:32:130:32:15

When Lee finally gets to the top it's straight down to business.

0:32:200:32:24

This kind of work is just what Lee is used to,

0:32:240:32:27

but do his colleagues think he's up to the job?

0:32:270:32:30

Yeah, a little bit of a difference installation-wise, work-wise,

0:32:310:32:35

but I think he'll fit right in.

0:32:350:32:37

I mean it's a big change but from what I've seen

0:32:370:32:41

and the lads I've spoken to,

0:32:410:32:42

I'd be quite excited about coming over and working, and starting again somewhere else.

0:32:420:32:47

Lee is desperate to make this job work,

0:32:470:32:49

not just for him, but for his whole family.

0:32:490:32:52

I'll take you through to the board room

0:32:520:32:54

-and go through the induction process.

-OK.

0:32:540:32:56

If you'd like to come through.

0:32:560:32:58

He's going in for the most important interview of his life.

0:32:580:33:02

Meanwhile, Karen has taken the kids to the beach.

0:33:030:33:06

This could be the kind of safe environment she's looking for in which to bring them up,

0:33:060:33:10

but thinking of her children makes her think about Freya.

0:33:100:33:15

When we're at home and we do stuff like going to the beach and stuff, Freya's usually always with us,

0:33:150:33:20

so that's something, if it does happen, we'll have to get used to.

0:33:200:33:24

It's not going to just be hard for Lee,

0:33:240:33:26

it will be hard for all of us.

0:33:260:33:27

I mean, the babies idolise her.

0:33:270:33:29

It's just something we're going to have to come to.

0:33:290:33:32

He's going to have to see if he can do it.

0:33:320:33:33

He might not be able to get on the plane.

0:33:330:33:35

He might get so far and then get to the plane and say "No, I can't do it".

0:33:350:33:39

He's saying he can do it at the minute,

0:33:390:33:41

but Freya's coping really well with it at the minute.

0:33:410:33:44

I don't know how Lee's going to react or going to cope with it,

0:33:450:33:49

if Freya breaks down, which, in all fairness, she's going to.

0:33:490:33:52

What will Lee's potential boss make of him?

0:33:520:33:56

What sort of electrical experience have you got?

0:33:560:33:58

Well, I started off originally doing houses,

0:33:580:34:01

just domestic and then moving onto commercial,

0:34:010:34:04

doing like petrol stations, fire work, fire detection, fire alarms,

0:34:040:34:10

mechanical and electrical side of them.

0:34:100:34:12

Interesting - we have got a mechanical side to our business.

0:34:120:34:15

Electrical mechanical is quite specialised experience,

0:34:150:34:18

-it's quite good you've got that experience.

-OK.

0:34:180:34:20

Lee wants to know what conditions he might be working under

0:34:200:34:23

and how much he might earn.

0:34:230:34:25

How many hours do electricians do?

0:34:250:34:27

Mainly 40 hours a week.

0:34:270:34:29

The pay rate for an electrician is 25 an hour

0:34:290:34:32

and we do pay time and a half over 40 hours.

0:34:320:34:36

I mean, usually you'd probably say on average,

0:34:360:34:38

I would say electricians bring home between 50 and 60,000.

0:34:380:34:42

Lee could earn around £24,000 a year, about the same as he earns in the UK,

0:34:420:34:48

but did he pass the test?

0:34:480:34:51

As far as going and wiring up apartments,

0:34:510:34:53

he could do it with his eyes closed, basically.

0:34:530:34:55

He's very experienced and he'll be like a duck to water

0:34:550:34:58

as far as the guys are concerned. Definitely fit in very well.

0:34:580:35:01

The problems I was facing coming over here, thinking about it,

0:35:010:35:04

was Freya first and then work was a big one coming second to that,

0:35:040:35:09

but what I've done today, speaking to the lads and going on the job,

0:35:090:35:14

I think I'd be quite excited about coming over.

0:35:140:35:16

I think that's put that to bed, really, that one.

0:35:160:35:19

It's been quite good.

0:35:190:35:20

Top marks all round, so time to vote.

0:35:200:35:23

Thinking about it in the past there's been a couple of issues about me coming over

0:35:230:35:28

and the job was one of them, but today, talking to the lads

0:35:280:35:31

and thinking about coming over, about a change,

0:35:310:35:34

I think my decision would be New Zealand.

0:35:340:35:38

Karen Galloway has always dreamt of a better life in New Zealand

0:35:420:35:47

where the scenery is breathtaking and her children can roam free.

0:35:470:35:50

In my heart of hearts I just think it's the right thing for us as a family to do, I really do.

0:35:500:35:55

I'm just really excited at the minute, I really am!

0:35:550:35:59

But, on our family's very first day down under, disaster struck. Lee was rushed into hospital.

0:35:590:36:04

I don't know where I am, I don't know who to go to.

0:36:040:36:07

I'm literally on my own.

0:36:070:36:10

And the properties didn't impress them, either.

0:36:100:36:13

A bit like our static caravans.

0:36:130:36:15

I'd have to build me own if I was going to come!

0:36:150:36:17

Son, James is far from convinced about the move.

0:36:170:36:21

I expected it to be sunny, but...

0:36:210:36:23

With what we're leaving behind, I don't think we'll gain much.

0:36:230:36:26

In the face of adversity,

0:36:260:36:27

both Lee and Karen are determined to make it work

0:36:270:36:30

but there's still one thing that could put a stop to everything.

0:36:300:36:34

Lee's ten year old daughter would stay in the UK

0:36:340:36:37

and the emotional pull would be massive.

0:36:370:36:40

For Lee, Freya is never far from his thoughts.

0:36:400:36:44

Missing ya.

0:36:440:36:46

Hey, missing ya!

0:36:460:36:47

Torchlight procession?

0:36:500:36:51

On one of the floats? Are ya?

0:36:510:36:55

It might sound like she's just next door,

0:36:550:36:58

but 12,000 miles is a long way away.

0:36:580:37:01

She's in the torchlight procession tonight

0:37:010:37:03

and usually we'd just drive up for it,

0:37:030:37:07

but when she said it was tonight, it was like, "Oh..."

0:37:070:37:10

That's a taste of what it will be like.

0:37:100:37:12

Taking some photos isn't the same as actually being there.

0:37:120:37:15

I mean it might be we love it and the jobs are great

0:37:170:37:21

and the place we live in is great,

0:37:210:37:23

but then I just can't do it with Freya, you know.

0:37:230:37:27

It brings it home to you a bit, you know.

0:37:280:37:31

Lee is missing his daughter,

0:37:310:37:33

but later he'll find out just how much Freya misses him.

0:37:330:37:36

I don't want them to go.

0:37:360:37:38

Lee could find good work in New Zealand,

0:37:490:37:52

but if they're going to afford their dream home,

0:37:520:37:55

the Galloways will need to get a decent price

0:37:550:37:59

for their house back in the UK.

0:37:590:38:01

They own a three bedroom property in Liverpool

0:38:030:38:05

which they bought in 1993 for £58,000.

0:38:050:38:09

They hope it's worth £150,000, but has it held its value?

0:38:090:38:15

We sent round two estate agents to give a more recent valuation

0:38:150:38:18

in the current climate.

0:38:180:38:21

A little dark.

0:38:230:38:25

That's funny them saying about it being dark,

0:38:250:38:28

-because we need to paint it again!

-Yeah!

0:38:280:38:31

That's our kitchen.

0:38:350:38:37

It's our kitchen.

0:38:370:38:39

Nice kitchen extension. Light and bright, spared no expense.

0:38:390:38:43

Fully fitted, great.

0:38:440:38:46

My garden!

0:38:520:38:53

It's our garden.

0:38:530:38:54

OK, nice child-friendly garden, lots going on in it.

0:38:570:39:00

It's actually a lot larger than it looks at first.

0:39:000:39:03

It could do with tidying up.

0:39:030:39:04

'Extremely well-done bathroom.'

0:39:120:39:14

Sunken bath'

0:39:140:39:15

His and hers sink units. Small room but very well done.

0:39:150:39:21

I'm going to have a look.

0:39:230:39:26

The parents don't come up here very often!

0:39:320:39:35

Great playroom for them.

0:39:350:39:37

They've spent a lot of money on it, that comes through.

0:39:380:39:41

For a quick sale, £125,000.

0:39:410:39:44

The property's been really well-done.

0:39:440:39:46

It's an exceptionally nice property.

0:39:460:39:49

Looking at around £130,000

0:39:490:39:53

with a quick sale price of around £125,000.

0:39:530:39:56

I thought it was going to be...

0:39:560:39:58

Well, we knew it was about 150,

0:39:580:40:01

-but that was like a while ago, wasn't it?

-Yeah.

0:40:010:40:03

The house prices have gone down a bit since we did the extension.

0:40:030:40:07

So...

0:40:070:40:09

It would have been nice, a bit more, eh!

0:40:100:40:12

I think we're better looking at rental really, first,

0:40:120:40:15

but, we'll have to sit down and work out how much exactly

0:40:150:40:19

we're going to be able to afford each month.

0:40:190:40:22

The Galloways hoped for a much better valuation on their home.

0:40:220:40:27

They'll need to take a closer look at their entire finances

0:40:270:40:31

to see if they can afford the move.

0:40:310:40:33

We've prepared a comparison between their living expenses in the UK

0:40:330:40:37

and in New Zealand to find out which leaves them better off.

0:40:370:40:40

After the dramas with Lee's health,

0:40:400:40:43

the Galloways have had first-hand experience of New Zealand's health system.

0:40:430:40:48

Unlike the UK, it's part public and part private,

0:40:490:40:53

so although you don't have to pay for hospital care,

0:40:530:40:55

you do have to pay for a doctor's visit.

0:40:550:40:58

You have to pay for your GP visits over here.

0:40:580:41:03

The hospitals are like the UK, but £25 per GP visit.

0:41:030:41:09

And that's only the beginning.

0:41:110:41:14

Water rates, £50 per month.

0:41:140:41:16

It's 30, so it's dearer.

0:41:160:41:18

Karen and Lee make a detailed assessment of their daily outgoings,

0:41:190:41:22

including their groceries and utility bills.

0:41:220:41:25

They come to an initial grand total.

0:41:250:41:28

It's 530 a month in the UK

0:41:280:41:32

and 330-ish in New Zealand,

0:41:320:41:37

so it's cheaper the New Zealand monthly outgoings, but...

0:41:370:41:41

-You've lost a wage.

-You've lost a wage.

0:41:410:41:43

In the UK, Karen earns £6,000 as a part-time healthcare assistant,

0:41:430:41:48

but down under she would have to look after the children

0:41:480:41:51

and wouldn't work initially. There's more bad news.

0:41:510:41:54

Back at home we don't need to fork out for flights

0:41:540:41:58

to and from New Zealand, do we, so that's an extra expense

0:41:580:42:01

that we don't have when we're at home.

0:42:010:42:04

Plus we'd have Freya coming out,

0:42:040:42:06

-we wanted her to come out twice a year.

-Someone to bring her.

0:42:060:42:09

-So that's an extra couple of thousand a year, isn't it?

-Yep.

0:42:090:42:12

Mmm... Interesting.

0:42:150:42:17

-So we're not coming to New Zealand to make it rich.

-Obviously not!

0:42:170:42:22

Karen and Lee wouldn't want to come all this way to live on the breadline.

0:42:220:42:27

Obviously it's going to be a strain if you're going to be struggling.

0:42:270:42:31

If you're struggling. There's a difference between paying everything

0:42:310:42:35

and being comfortable and that and trying to find the money.

0:42:350:42:38

It's going to be stressful anyway.

0:42:380:42:40

We struggled when we first started out.

0:42:430:42:46

It's just what we're going to have to do again, if we do it, if we come.

0:42:460:42:49

Karen and Lee won't go down without a fight.

0:42:490:42:53

It's time to vote on cost of living.

0:42:530:42:55

Do you know what? I was never expecting to come to New Zealand

0:42:550:42:58

and have megabucks.

0:42:580:43:00

We knew it was going to be a struggle.

0:43:000:43:03

And I'm going to say -

0:43:030:43:05

yay, New Zealand!

0:43:050:43:08

It's a vote for New Zealand after all.

0:43:080:43:10

If nothing else, the Galloways are positive thinkers

0:43:100:43:13

and believe they'll be able to adapt their lifestyle to living down under.

0:43:130:43:17

Despite their financial worries,

0:43:200:43:22

Lee and Karen are still determined to make this move work,

0:43:220:43:26

but there may be a sticking point in son James,

0:43:260:43:30

who's still undecided about the move.

0:43:300:43:33

James has a lot to lose with his biological father being in the UK

0:43:340:43:39

and Karen wouldn't go without him.

0:43:390:43:41

James, James, James, it's worrying me, to be honest.

0:43:410:43:45

I can just imagine James saying he's rather stay.

0:43:450:43:48

Yeah, saying I'll stay with me nan. Yeah.

0:43:480:43:51

He's not very impressed, is he?

0:43:510:43:53

I don't think there's that much gained in terms...

0:43:530:43:55

Like to justify the distance we're coming.

0:43:550:43:58

It's the other side of the world and it's not that much better.

0:43:580:44:02

Bring another shell. My thing about getting away...

0:44:020:44:05

-It was for the kids, wasn't it?

-It was.

0:44:050:44:08

It started when I had James, so, you know, it all started with James,

0:44:080:44:13

for James, and to eventually get there

0:44:130:44:15

and James not want to come anyway it would be like a bit of a blow.

0:44:150:44:18

Perhaps a blast of the New Zealand outdoors

0:44:200:44:23

will give James a new perspective.

0:44:230:44:25

New Zealand's famous for its stunning landscapes and amazing natural beauty.

0:44:260:44:31

It's the reason many people come to visit and live.

0:44:310:44:34

We've arranged for the Galloways to go on a dolphin watching boat cruise,

0:44:400:44:44

heading west into the Tasman Sea,

0:44:440:44:46

which lies between New Zealand and Australia.

0:44:460:44:49

-That's just gorgeous, isn't it!

-Yeah!

0:44:490:44:53

A move down under could give James a brand new start.

0:44:570:45:01

James had a really bad time growing up. He got bullied.

0:45:010:45:04

I just don't think there's any way that James could be on his own without us.

0:45:040:45:09

James's decision could ruin Karen's dreams of moving.

0:45:090:45:13

If I don't like it, I'd have to just, like, tell my mum.

0:45:130:45:16

It's just priorities, really.

0:45:160:45:18

And if I didn't like it anyway, there's not much she can do.

0:45:180:45:22

They're in luck. The dolphins have arrived.

0:45:220:45:24

Dolphins have always been considered porters of good fortune for sailors,

0:45:240:45:28

so could this be a good omen for James?

0:45:280:45:31

Actually a few here now. Harvey's enjoying it as well as me.

0:45:310:45:36

Karen hopes that this trip will help sway his decision to move.

0:45:360:45:40

Gorgeous, isn't it?

0:45:410:45:43

So what does James think about New Zealand, now?

0:45:460:45:49

Well, it's been an experience.

0:45:490:45:51

It's completely different to England and from what I've seen of it,

0:45:510:45:55

I do really like it. It's a bit of a change, like.

0:45:550:45:57

I feel more comfortable with it now than I did before I came over here.

0:45:570:46:02

It's definitely changed my mind a little bit,

0:46:020:46:05

but it's still just like all the stuff I'm leaving behind.

0:46:050:46:09

I'd miss my nan, my dad and all my friends and stuff

0:46:090:46:12

and it's just like the way you've been living,

0:46:120:46:14

it's a part of your past, where you live?

0:46:140:46:17

James isn't the only one, who would find the move hard.

0:46:170:46:20

I will struggle, I know I will. I'm in holiday mode at the minute.

0:46:200:46:24

I'll probably be in holiday mode for the first six months.

0:46:240:46:26

Then when you settle down and it gets normal,

0:46:260:46:28

you miss people and you can't just nip round somewhere.

0:46:280:46:31

But Karen knows if you don't try, you don't succeed.

0:46:310:46:34

I just think it's worth it for the kids to see them thriving.

0:46:340:46:40

When they meet their partners and they have their kids, you know,

0:46:400:46:43

we look at the bigger picture.

0:46:430:46:45

I think it will be beneficial coming over here.

0:46:450:46:48

I think it will be a nicer way of living.

0:46:480:46:52

It's time to vote for lifestyle.

0:46:530:46:55

Obviously, you don't get this in the UK, so I'm going to vote for...

0:46:550:46:59

-New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

0:46:590:47:01

After a shaky start, the Galloways are warming up to the idea of life down under,

0:47:060:47:13

but will hearing messages from friends and family back home

0:47:130:47:17

make the decision even harder?

0:47:170:47:19

Back in the UK, the Galloways have a close-knit network of friends and family,

0:47:190:47:24

but if they move down under, they'd be leaving them all behind.

0:47:240:47:28

We've arranged some messages from their loved ones back home.

0:47:280:47:32

Hello. Hope you're all having a good time.

0:47:320:47:37

If you do go, I'll miss you.

0:47:370:47:39

I couldn't ask for a better son-in-law.

0:47:390:47:42

He's the best dad I've ever known.

0:47:420:47:44

And I know while our Karen's got Lee,

0:47:440:47:49

she'll always be happy.

0:47:490:47:52

My dad's fun because we do lots of fun things together.

0:47:550:47:58

We bake pancakes and we play-fight.

0:47:580:48:05

We go swimming and we go out to the zoo.

0:48:050:48:09

If they do go, then I'd miss Poppy and Harvey

0:48:090:48:14

and Karen and James.

0:48:140:48:17

It's good to have a few brothers and sisters.

0:48:170:48:19

At first when he told me,

0:48:220:48:24

I was a little bit shocked, obviously.

0:48:240:48:26

I'm going to miss him absolutely loads.

0:48:260:48:29

We've grown closer together now than we've ever been, really.

0:48:290:48:32

Now he's got his bike, we spend a lot of time together now.

0:48:320:48:36

We go out on rides and stuff.

0:48:360:48:38

We have got a lot closer since he's got older now.

0:48:380:48:41

You're worried that'll go?

0:48:410:48:42

Yeah. I think that would probably go,

0:48:420:48:44

that would probably fade away when he does go away, yeah.

0:48:440:48:48

I think it will.

0:48:480:48:49

James is me first grandchild

0:48:500:48:52

and there's a special bond there, you know.

0:48:520:48:55

We've always been close.

0:48:550:48:56

The first couple of years he lived with us because, you know,

0:48:560:49:00

Karen didn't have her own home, so he lived in my home.

0:49:000:49:04

Like, Karen, you know, she's my daughter

0:49:040:49:06

and she doesn't want to leave him and she spoke to me about it,

0:49:060:49:10

and she said I'm doing it for the kids, you know.

0:49:100:49:13

James had a bad time in school and she doesn't want the two little ones to go through that.

0:49:130:49:18

It's just going to be so hard, so hard.

0:49:180:49:22

I really don't want them to go.

0:49:240:49:26

I knew they were going to think about going somewhere else.

0:49:310:49:37

Because Harvey and Poppy are only little, they don't know

0:49:370:49:41

that they wouldn't see me again

0:49:410:49:43

and they won't understand, because they're only little as well.

0:49:430:49:47

From a selfish point of view, do you want him to go?

0:49:480:49:53

Not really, no.

0:49:530:49:56

I'll miss him too much when he does go, I really will.

0:49:560:50:00

-Does he know how you feel?

-No, not really, no.

0:50:000:50:04

We've not really spoke like that.

0:50:060:50:08

Not really opened up to each other

0:50:080:50:11

and told each other how we feel and stuff, no.

0:50:110:50:14

Our Karen is an angel.

0:50:170:50:21

She's the best daughter anybody could have

0:50:210:50:24

and I'm going to miss her so much.

0:50:240:50:26

She's just my world.

0:50:280:50:31

We're so close, she's always there for me.

0:50:310:50:35

I'm going to have nobody now.

0:50:350:50:37

And I don't think I could do much more than...

0:50:380:50:41

Well, you said that it would be good

0:50:470:50:50

for when I'm older and I want to do college and stuff

0:50:500:50:54

but there is colleges where I live and they're good in Kendal as well

0:50:540:50:59

but, erm...

0:50:590:51:01

I was quite shocked cos I...

0:51:040:51:08

I don't want them to go.

0:51:080:51:11

If it wasn't for everyone that we're leaving behind, we would have done it years ago but...

0:51:260:51:31

It's going to be the hardest thing we've ever done and,

0:51:330:51:37

you know, it might be the worst thing we've ever done, you don't know...

0:51:370:51:43

I can't even...imagine the day we leave, can you?

0:51:430:51:48

No, I can't.

0:51:480:51:49

It's all so easy when you're just talking about it, you know.

0:51:520:51:55

It's when you see all the people you're leaving behind, then you start thinking about it...

0:51:550:52:01

You know, before we'd had a look at it...

0:52:010:52:03

Yeah.

0:52:050:52:06

What about you, James?

0:52:130:52:16

It just makes you think even more how hard it's going to be.

0:52:160:52:20

I've always thought that but seeing that makes it a lot harder.

0:52:200:52:23

We mightn't be able to live with it, we mightn't like it, we might miss people too much.

0:52:230:52:30

You know, when do you do it, when's the right time?

0:52:300:52:33

Me head is just all over the place at the minute after seeing that.

0:52:360:52:40

Seeing messages from loved ones so far away is never easy.

0:52:400:52:45

It's even harder when you're leaving a child behind.

0:52:450:52:49

The Galloways are almost at the end of their week in New Zealand

0:52:490:52:53

and it's nearly decision time.

0:52:530:52:55

Karen Galloway has always been desperate to move to New Zealand, where the outdoor lifestyle

0:52:550:53:00

will provide the perfect setting to bring up her children.

0:53:000:53:03

I just really want to do it.

0:53:030:53:05

Actually, at the minute I'm so excited, I could burst!

0:53:050:53:08

But the introduction to their possible new life started with a scare.

0:53:080:53:12

He's in the hospital.

0:53:120:53:14

I'm literally on my own.

0:53:150:53:18

When it came to finding their dream home, they were far from impressed.

0:53:180:53:21

They're a bit like our static caravans.

0:53:210:53:25

Starting again would be a massive risk.

0:53:250:53:28

Lee knows only too well how much his daughter Freya would miss him

0:53:280:53:32

and seeing messages from family back in the UK has really hit home how hard this decision will be.

0:53:320:53:39

When you see how upset people are, it brings home to you

0:53:390:53:43

how massive a thing it is you're doing and how huge it is

0:53:430:53:47

and how we're going to affect everyone's world. Not just ours, it's everyone you're leaving behind.

0:53:470:53:53

That was a real kick in the face cos being over here and seeing...

0:53:530:53:58

I didn't want to come at first and then I've come here and seen everything

0:53:580:54:02

and that's brought me back down to earth again.

0:54:020:54:06

Watching that video has hit James hard, to be honest.

0:54:060:54:10

Yeah, I think James feels torn, like we all do.

0:54:110:54:15

My head's all over the place at the moment.

0:54:150:54:18

I seem to be the one stuck in the middle of everything so it's quite hard.

0:54:180:54:23

For Lee, the trip has thrown up more questions than answers.

0:54:230:54:27

The Freya side of it, it's never going to be easy

0:54:270:54:30

and I think we've got to sit down and talk a bit more about it,

0:54:300:54:36

not just us as a family but sit down with Freya and discuss... if there's a right time to do it...

0:54:360:54:42

and is she going to cope, or are we going to cope?

0:54:420:54:46

It's not just Lee that's losing Freya, it's all of us.

0:54:460:54:49

She's been in my life since she was a babe in arms and it'll be a wrench for all of us.

0:54:490:54:55

The kids idolise her and I don't know how anyone is going to cope

0:54:550:55:00

with the guilt of leaving her. We don't know how she's going to cope with it.

0:55:000:55:06

If we see her break down, do we get to the airport and say, "No, we can't do it," and come back?

0:55:060:55:11

But it's time for the Galloways to make their final decision.

0:55:110:55:15

It's the hardest thing, the biggest upheaval we're ever going to do

0:55:150:55:20

and I just hope that everyone can cope with it,

0:55:200:55:24

but I think it's the right thing to do and I'm going to go for New Zealand.

0:55:240:55:29

I'm still weighing it up, but I'm going to give it a go. New Zealand.

0:55:290:55:33

Before I came, I had more...concerns than I do now.

0:55:330:55:39

I think I could quite easily settle here and I'm going to say New Zealand.

0:55:390:55:45

New Zealand.

0:55:450:55:48

The Galloways have experienced

0:55:480:55:50

how traumatic moving to another country can be.

0:55:500:55:54

They've made a brave decision

0:55:540:55:56

and we wish them all the very best with their new life in New Zealand.

0:55:560:56:01

Join us next time when another British family have to decide

0:56:010:56:05

whether they're Wanted Down Under.

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