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Welcome to Wanted Down Under, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
the show that catapults a British family right across | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
to the other side of the world | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
to help them make the biggest decision of their life - | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
whether to stay in the UK or to move to New Zealand. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Karen Galloway is desperate to move with her family to New Zealand. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
I just really want to do it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
At the minute I'm so excited, I could burst! | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
They're tempted by a brand new start in a stunning country. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:34 | |
But it's a long way to go when you're leaving loved ones behind. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
I'm going to miss her so much! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
Karen's husband, Lee, has a daughter from a previous relationship | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
who he'd be leaving back in the UK. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
I don't want them to go. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
But, after less than 24 hours in New Zealand, disaster strikes. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
This trip's almost over before it's even begun! | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
So he's in hospital. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
I'm literally on my own! | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
With its magnificent landscape | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
and small population of only four million, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
New Zealand is many people's idea of the perfect place | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
to get away from it all. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
To apply to live in New Zealand as a skilled migrant, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
you must be between the ages of 20 and 55 | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
and be on the skills shortage list. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
But a move down under is never straightforward. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
We've given another British family the opportunity | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
to spend a week down under | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
to see if it's all they've dreamt it would be. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
After that, they'll have to make a decision, one way or the other. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
To stay in the UK or to move to New Zealand. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Karen and Lee Galloway live in the Liverpool suburb of Whiston | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
with their three children, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
17-year-old James and toddlers Harvey and Poppy. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
They've lived here all their lives | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
and mum, Karen is desperate for a fresh start. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
I first thought about moving away, far away when I had my babies. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
James went through a bad time growing up, he got bullied. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
I don't want to go through that again with Harvey and Poppy, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
I can see Harvey going the same way as James - | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
he's got the same temperament - | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
and I really don't want to bring them up round here. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
If they move down under, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Karen's oldest son, James will be leaving his biological father behind. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Me and my dad passed our bike test together. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
It took me twice though, cos I failed the first time! | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
He won't say nothing at first and he'll keep quiet about it, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
but it will really have an effect on him. It's going to be hard. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
I am extremely worried because he's grown up round here, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
he's an adult practically, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
so I'm taking him away from everything he knows. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
That's not Karen's only problem. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Her husband, Lee is still unsure about a move. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
He's an electrician by trade | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
and his qualifications could get the family a skilled migrant visa. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
It is all dependent on me getting work over there. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
But there's just one thing holding him back. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
His ten year old daughter, Freya, visits every fortnight | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
and is a big part of the family. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Freya's a big thing for me... | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
I don't know whether she'd cope or | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
-whether I'd cope, more than anything, you know. -Yeah. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
But family and friends can visit, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
but it's just Freya, just my daughter. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Otherwise we'd be there now, I think, wouldn't we? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Freya's just as much a part of the family as us, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
she's got everything here, she's included in everything. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
She doesn't live here, but she's part of the family. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
She's going to struggle, she's very close to Lee, a proper daddy's girl. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
They get on really well. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
She loves her daddy very much. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
She's been great, you know. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Every time we talk about it, she's fine, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
but it's not actually happened yet, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
so you don't know how she's going to cope | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
or what's going to happen, you know. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Buried treasure? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Yeah! | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
The Galloways have a large extended family on their doorstep. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Everyone's feeling the pressure of making such a big decision. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
I would say I have been 90% that I want to do it, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
I want to go to New Zealand, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
I want to start a new life for me and my family. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
And now it's getting closer, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
I will admit it, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
it's hitting me like a slap in the face | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
and I'm realising now it's a massive thing we're doing. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
It looks like anything could happen, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
so to help the Galloways decide, they're going to visit Auckland. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Situated at the top of New Zealand's North Island, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Auckland is known as the City of Sails | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
and is a perfect base to explore the area. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
With a housing budget of £150,000 | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
the Galloways should be able to find plenty of suitable homes. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
We've found three possible lifestyles for our family, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
each one offering a brand new way of life | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
for them to try on their budget. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
But which one will be the most suitable? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Properties are a lot better value in the country. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Spacious family homes | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
can cost around £150,000, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
so bang on the Galloways' budget. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
But if you want that dream place, you'll have to spend a lot more. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
To match his UK salary of £24,000 | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Lee would have to find work as a commercial electrician, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
but the big jobs are in town, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:45 | |
so he'll be looking at an hour's commute to the city. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Coming home to a rural paradise like this, however, could be tempting. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
So, very different from their life in the UK, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
but what about the second option? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
The Galloways will have to venture into the suburbs | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
to find a home | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
on their £150,000 budget. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
And they may have to stretch | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
their finances for more space. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Lee would have a 15 minute commute to work in the metropolis. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Auckland is a fast-growing city and electricians like Lee are in demand. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
If he works overtime, he could take home around £25,000, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
about the same as he earns in the UK. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
That all looks very inviting, but what about the third option? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
Auckland's coastline epitomises the calm and beauty many people crave | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
but properties a walk from the beach can be pricey. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
Homes like this cost around £300,000, so double the Galloways' budget, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
but if they look further inland, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
they should be able to snap up something that won't break the bank. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
The booming tourist trade means there should be work for Lee, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
but he may have to do a half-hour commute to the city | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
to earn more than £20,000. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Three very different possibilities there for the Galloways to try, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
but which one did we decide would suit them best? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
We thought the city option would be the best for the Galloways. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
It has a family-friendly atmosphere and Lee should find good work. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
And with open beaches only a short drive away, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Karen will get to experience the tranquillity she craves. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
We've lined up some properties for them to view... | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
This is the best out of the three. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
But still it's nothing like the ones at home. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
..And organised a job for Lee to try out... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
It's a big change, starting again somewhere else. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
..As well as giving them a taste of the New Zealand lifestyle, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
but will it all get too much. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Because Harvey and Poppy are only little, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
they don't know that they wouldn't see me again. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
It's going to be the hardest thing we've ever done and, you know, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
it might be the worst thing we've ever done. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
None of the Galloways can foresee how turbulent the week ahead will be, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
but it's time for them to take the plunge. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
The flight from Liverpool to Auckland takes the Galloways 32 hours | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
and 12,000 miles from home. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
None of them have ever been this far away before, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
and leaving their loved ones at the airport | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
even for a short trip like this wasn't easy. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
Tears off me mum! | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
Because we're coming here to look at houses and see what it's like, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
I think that's what brought it home for her. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
They're tired now, they just want to get to bed, but brilliant! | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
It took us ten minutes to wake them up on the plane, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
but they've been really, really good. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
We knew how long it was going to be | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
but you don't realise until you do it! | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
They're all excited about the adventures that lie ahead. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
-I'm excited! -Really excited now! | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
Looking forward to seeing the properties mainly, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
not so much the job! | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
I just want to see it all, I want to take it all in. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Meeting people, yeah, everything. I'm so excited! | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
The whole family's future is at stake as they head out into the unknown. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
The Galloways will be staying in a house in a quiet suburb of Auckland. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
After 30 hours of travelling it will give them calm | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
and space to relax before they start exploring. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
With four bedrooms and a large open-plan living area, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
there's plenty of space for the kids to roam. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
Which one is it? | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
Let's hope the Galloways like it! | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
D'you like it? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
Look! | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
-Just so different! -A lot different from ours. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
Everything about them is really different. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Yeah, I love it! Absolutely love it! | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
I suppose ours is open plan as well. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
I love this, but look at the landing there! | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Hello! | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
Hello! | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
Wow, I love this bit! | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
It's clearly the kind of place they'd love, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
but would it be out of their reach to buy? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
At least they can enjoy it for now. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Beautiful! | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
Oh, my word! Look at the wardrobe! | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Now that's a bit different from the one I've got at home. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
We could play games in here, Poppy! | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Wow! | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
It's a lot bigger. The houses look big, I like the ceilings. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
We'd never be able to afford anything of this size at home. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
I mean I've barely got a wardrobe at home. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
That's like bigger than my kitchen! | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
There's something they didn't expect outside. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
Wow! Look at that, Pop! | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Isn't it cold! | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Karen's got culture shock of the highest order. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
The house is completely different to what we're used to. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
I'm surprised how fun it looks, to be honest. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
It does look... Everything's different. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
I don't know why I'm surprised, it's a completely different country. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am surprised. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-It's nice though. -It's quite foreign! | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Yeah. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
-Yeah, I love it! -I like the style of house. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
As soon as we'd flown in, I thought "I'm going to like it". | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
So she likes it, which is more than can be said for James. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
It seems very similar to England. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
I don't think there's that much gained, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
to justify the distance we're coming. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
It's the other side of the world and it's not that much better. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
So far, so bad for James, then. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
And for Lee, his daughter Freya is already playing on his mind. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Freya was fine but as I say, it's not happened yet. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
It will be completely different when it is, you know, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
or if it does, but she was fine. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-I think Freya's really coping with it well, isn't she? -Yeah. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
Well, you say that, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
but talking about it is completely different, isn't it? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
The ball's started rolling now. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
It's just all more real, isn't it? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
But little do they know how real it's just about to get! | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
The rental accommodation is just to the Galloways' taste, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
but sometimes the unexpected can happen. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
This trip could be over before it's even begun! | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
During their first night down under, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Lee started experiencing severe pain in his leg. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
In fact, the pain became so unbearable | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
that Lee admitted himself to hospital. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
SIREN | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
The following morning, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
Karen is trying her best to carry on as normal. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
When we were on the plane, Lee's leg started hurting, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
swelling up and going really red. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
And then when we've got off the plane, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
it's got progressively worse. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
It's got very hot. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
And just the pain... | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
When he was on the plane, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
we thought his leg was swelling up and stuff | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
and then as it got worse we did think it could be a DVT. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
What a nightmare! | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Karen's concerned Lee may have developed a condition | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
called Deep Vein Thrombosis or DVT, which can be life-threatening. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:02 | |
Every long-haul flyer should be aware of what it is | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
and how best to avoid it. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
DVT is a condition in which blood clots form, usually in the legs. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
It can result from a person sitting down | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
for long periods of time without moving. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
It mainly affects people with underlying health problems. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
The first signs are often a tightening of the calf in the leg. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
The fact that you feel a bit stiff and you can't move around so much. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
It just feels a bit uncomfortable, like you've been kicked in the calf. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
If it's not diagnosed and treated early, the condition can prove fatal. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
It's important that this Deep Vein Thrombosis is diagnosed very quickly | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
because if it's not in the early stages, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
then the patient or the traveller may go on to develop coughs, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
and coughing-up of blood. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
These clots can migrate or travel up the veins through to the heart. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
To reduce the risk of developing DVT on a flight, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
you need to keep the blood flowing to the legs by moving around the cabin | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
and stretching your legs regularly. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
But if you have any other symptoms, see a doctor immediately. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
In such situations as leg pain, a little bit of a temperature, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
feeling a little bit unwell, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:12 | |
they should report to the nearest accident and medical centre. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
The Galloways imagined living the dream life in New Zealand, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
but what was supposed to be a glorious week down under | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
has turned into a nightmare! | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Karen's been stuck at home | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
and not only has she been worried about Lee, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
she's experiencing first-hand the isolation | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
of being so far from her loved ones. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
I don't know where I am, I don't know who to go to, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
I don't know what phone calls to make. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
I'm literally on my own. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
So it's a bit of a blow, to be honest, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
I wasn't expecting it, but these things happen. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Karen can't wait to get to the hospital to see how Lee is. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
After a full body scan, medics have diagnosed Lee with cellulitis - | 0:14:57 | 0:15:03 | |
an infection caused by a previous wound which deteriorated on the flight. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
Dad, is it this foot? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
It was more red, basically, than swollen but it's loads better. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
-I couldn't touch it the other day, but... -What is this for? | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
Although not DVT, cellulitis can also be dangerous if left untreated, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
so Lee is staying in for observation. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
I couldn't believe it! | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
-What are them arrows for? -Two days! | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
When he said "I'm keeping you in" I was like, "Ohhhh!", I was gutted, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
couldn't believe it! | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
So what does Lee think of the trip so far? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
I haven't seen New Zealand, but the hospitals are good! | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
They've been really good here. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
But this is real life, like, isn't it? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
This is living New Zealand life, isn't it! | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
No holiday for us! | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
That's the case. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Mwah! I've missed ya! | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
It's a relief for everyone to know Lee is going to be OK, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
but all Karen and the family can do is sit and wait. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
When we first came, I was really excited, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
but with what's happened with Lee, it's like really unfortunate, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
because it just feels like I'm at home, doing the tea for the kids. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
It's just very normal. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
It's a long way to come and a lot of expense to just be here, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
it's just the same as being at home. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
So, has all this changed Karen's mind about the move? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
I'm not saying nothing yet. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
We'll see how it goes, see if we get a feel for the place and stuff. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
I'll let you know, but I'm quite indifferent at the minute. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
It's hardly the perfect introduction to a life down under. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
This trip certainly isn't turning out as the Galloways had hoped, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
but at least Lee is on the road to recovery. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
We've taken Karen and the children out to try and cheer them up. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
They've come to a children's session at the local library. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Hopefully, they'll all feel a little less lonely! | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
Hi to everybody and hello to our special visitors today, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Harvey and Poppy who have been on a plane and come a long way. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
We're really pleased to have you here at our library today. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
It looks as though Poppy and Harvey are settling right in. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
And even Karen's joining in! | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
If they were to move to New Zealand, Karen would hope to meet new friends through events like this. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
It's quite interesting now having a child - Charlie's my first, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
it's such an introduction to people. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
I've met people that I would never have normally met through work or... | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Well, this is going to be my route, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
meeting people while I'm here, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
because obviously I'm not going to be able to work | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
so it's through the kids and school. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
It's a really easy introduction when you've got kids, it's not so hard | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
and there's a girl that goes here, Vicky, she's an English girl. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
And she's got little twins and we've just met her through this. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
Karen's had a positive day after all and she can't wait to speak to Lee! | 0:17:49 | 0:17:55 | |
I have met friends and chatted and stuff and sung songs. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
Lee gives her some good news, too. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
He's been discharged. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Cool. So we'll get there! | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
Karen's had a rollercoaster of a day. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
With Lee on his way home | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
and a successful trip to meet some other mums, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
Karen's finally feeling positive about being in New Zealand. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
Actually at the minute I'm so excited I could burst. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
I really am! | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
If you were to ask me now "Do you want to go home?", I'd say "No, I'll stay please". | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Just speaking to people and getting out the house, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
I mean we had a bit of a hiccup with Lee | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
and there was getting out and seeing it and realising | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
that I will actually make friends... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Look at the kids on the beach! | 0:18:37 | 0:18:38 | |
You don't have to drive to the beach. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
You're next to the library, and the beach is are on your doorstep. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
It's like, you just don't get that at home. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
I just really want to do it. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
In my heart of hearts, I just think it's the right thing | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
for us as a family to do, I really do. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
I'm just really excited at the minute, I really am! | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
It's finally time to check out the all-important property. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
Back in the UK, the Galloways live in a three-bedroom terrace in Liverpool. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
They believe it could be worth around £150,000. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
It's a small house for their growing family | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
and they'd like to live in a quieter and safer area. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
In New Zealand they're looking for a spacious property with some land | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
and a rural or sea view, but their £150,000 budget | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
might not get them exactly what they're looking for. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
We found them three properties in the Auckland suburb of North Shore. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
It's good for children and a short commute to the city for Lee. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
First up is a three-bedroom property on the market for around £130,000. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:50 | |
It's below their budget, but only has three bedrooms. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
Estate agent, Helene Brownie, is keen to show off her prize offerings. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
Has he got you a flower? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
This is nice for its price. It's got this extra piece here, the foyer. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:08 | |
So it's west-facing which means we get lots of afternoon sun down here | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
and this would be a really nice area to use in the summer | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
with an outdoor table or a spa pool just to get away from the sun, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
so I apologise there's not too much of it today! | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Mmm. They don't seem too impressed with the foyer! | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Time to go inside, that's if Helene can unlock the door! | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
TV bloopers, this bit! | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
That's it. OK. Come on through. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
We're in! Let's hope they like it! | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
It's at the very start of your budget. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
You've got exclusive views out here. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Mmm, 'exclusive views' of a bush and a fence! | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
Not exactly the rural view they were hoping for! | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
Is the interior any more exciting? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
That's the old electrics. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
As we said, the old style, isn't it! | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-You're an electrician, aren't you? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Mmm, Helene was hoping Lee might be excited by the challenge | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
of modernising this home's electrics. I'm not sure he is! | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
Would the master bedroom be any more electrifying? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
The room is met with a deathly silence. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Nice, but it's small, isn't it? | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
It's nice, but it is small. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Helene's not giving up easily! | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
So, for a fraction under 300 for the North Shore, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
this is actually very good buying. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
I mean, it's probably no bigger than ours at home, is it? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
It's just you want to go bigger and better, don't you? | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
Oh, dear! | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
This cosy pad with "exclusive views" hasn't exactly sparked the Galloways' imagination. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
-I didn't think it was going to be as small. -No, it's very small. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
It's what we're used to at home. It's very dated, isn't it? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
But I think they're all going to be, aren't they? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
To a certain extent, you know. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
But it is a bit smaller than we'd expected. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Onwards and upwards - we hope! | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
Property Two is on the market for around £150,000 | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
and right at the top of their budget. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
It's got open plan living space, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
three bedrooms and a beautiful garden. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
These really are exclusive views! | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
Are shoes all right if we wipe 'em? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
Thank you. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Everyone in? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
This is much bigger than the other one, it's more of a family home. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
So, you know, they made it nice. Have a look around. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
They don't need the third bedroom, so they're using it as a work area. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-Everything's, ugh, you know, small! -Bit cramped, isn't it! -Cramped. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Karen and Lee don't seem over the moon about this one. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
They were hoping for a bit more space. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
That's smaller than ours, isn't it? Ours is small, but it's smaller. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
Oh, dear! Even a deluxe spa bath doesn't interest them! | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
Hopefully, the garden might impress the Galloways a bit more. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
That is amazing, absolutely amazing! | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
This is what my idea of New Zealand is! | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
-Yes. -I'm just overwhelmed by that. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
I just think it's absolutely stunning! | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Finally, they've found something they like. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
It's very, very peaceful and quiet. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-That's what you'll pay your money for, isn't it? -The view's nice. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
-Do you want to come downstairs, Poppy? -It's not your actual... -House. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
More lemon trees, Harv, look! | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
There's grapefruit trees, Feijoa trees, lemons... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
And this is the underneath of the house, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
which is very good head-height | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
if you wanted to develop it any further. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
This is where we could stick me mum! | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
So you could develop under here, and it's all insulated | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
and nice and dry for underneath a home. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
So ideal storage. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Lee would want to adapt the house to make the most out of the garden. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
I was thinking actually extend this so this is all enclosed as well | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
and I'd have all this glass. This would all be glass-fronted. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
There's bound to be loads of this. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
-This would be like a living room, going back there. -Yeah. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
It turns out Lee is an electrician cum architect cum interior designer! | 0:24:28 | 0:24:34 | |
It's now time to sort out the garden! | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
But you could build something down there, like a decking going out. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
There's loads, isn't there. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
I'd bring the fence in right down the other side, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
cut off the neighbours that you've just met! | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
The Galloways seem to be getting excited. Or are they? | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
They wouldn't recognise it... | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
Everything seems so dated, doesn't it, the houses? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
They're just differently built than over ours, aren't they, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
from their layout, everything! | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
They look more... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Prefab-ish, d'you know what I mean, not as solid as our houses. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:10 | |
It's not what I'd buy at all in Britain. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
What a pity! | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Lee doesn't seem to like it, after all! | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
Will Property Three be any better? | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
It boasts five bedrooms, two bathrooms and also has a big garden. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
It's on the market for around £200,000 - £50,000 over budget. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
But will it show off a better quality of New Zealand housing? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
Nice, light, sunny home. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Yeah. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
You can see you're getting a lot more for your money now. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
You've got the five bedrooms, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
you've got the second living area which is ideal for guests. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
Lee now has an eagle eye for build quality. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
This house has tonnes of space. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
It's very minimalist with some interesting interior decoration. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Now isn't that lemon sorbet yellow? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
This is Helene's cream of the crop, so Lee, what's the verdict? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
It's a bit like our static caravans. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
More like prefab-ish, not solid, you know, like ours. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
I know it looks like brick outside, but it's still only prefab. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
I think I'd have to build my own if I was going to come. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
This is the best out of the three, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
but still it's nothing like the ones at home. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Helene's got another trick up her sleeve. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
I know your mortgage is going to be a little bit more | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
to achieve a property like this, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
but also, cos you've got the extra rooms you could have flatmates. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
It could bring you an extra income when you're not having guests. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
Flatmates! Come on, Helene, they're not exactly students | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
and let's face it, today Lee's not buying! | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
It's not the house, it's the actual finish on the houses, if you know what I mean. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
What do you mean, Lee? What's wrong with this? | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
I mean, like all the bits that slope, like here, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
just all the little finishing details | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
and everything that add up and make it look... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
You know. Like that wall there is all breeze-block. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
You know, it's just the finishing of them. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
It'd really wind Lee up! | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
It would. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:24 | |
Perhaps the stunning brick facade will change Lee's mind. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
They're single skin these, as well, just single skin brick. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
They're concrete blocks. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
They're quite wide and they load them up | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
and then fill them up with concrete. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
Helene's starting to get the feeling she's fighting a losing battle. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
The brick is a veneer... it's just a cladding. Underneath... | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
-Oh, yeah, you can see it there. -Underneath the weatherboards. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
-It was the fashion back in the '70s to put the... -Cladding. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
And now it's not! | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Poor Helene. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
She's had a bit of a rough ride with these discerning customers. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
The Galloways are starting to realise they might not be able to afford what they want on their budget. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:12 | |
I think wherever we end up, Lee, we're going to have to... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
Oh, I know, I know. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
It's not going to be what we're used to, is it? | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
The Galloways might have to spend a lot more | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
if they're going to find their dream home in New Zealand, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
but at least the kids are enjoying themselves! | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
The Galloways have seen three very interesting properties. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
Property One was a fairly average three bedroom pad, well below budget, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
with those rather uninspiring views. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
Property Two was right on budget and although small inside, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
certainly got Lee excited with its landscaped garden. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
I'd bring the fence in, cut off the neighbours that you've just met! | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
And Property Three was a five bedroom delight in lemon and blue, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
with some rather dated brick effects which didn't tickle their fancy! | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
So, how will they vote? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
The houses in New Zealand feel too much like caravans, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
so I'm going to say Britain. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
Although the scenery and the location is amazing, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
I have to say the houses are going to take some getting used to, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
so I'm going to say the UK. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:18 | |
Although the plots are bigger, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
but the actual house itself I'd say... | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
UK. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
UK. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:26 | |
It's the UK on properties, but for the Galloways, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
it's not all just about bricks and mortar. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
Home is where the heart is. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
Although they've been looking for somewhere to live, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
they haven't forgotten who they might be leaving behind. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
Freya is the constant though, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
you know, with me. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
If he can't do it, he can't do it, we don't do it, you know. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
He's the one leaving Freya, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:50 | |
so at the end of the day the decision is all Lee's. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Will Lee be able to handle the pressure when he speaks to Freya? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
Missing ya! | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Hey, missing ya! | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
And what will happen when the whole family hears from their loved ones? | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
I'll miss him too much when he does go, I really will. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
If you do go, I'll miss you and I'll love you lots. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
She's just my world, and I'm going to miss her so much! | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
The properties weren't exactly what the Galloways were hoping for. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
In order to afford the home and lifestyle they want, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Lee will have to find a good job. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Back in the UK, Lee's an experienced electrician | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
and owns a successful business. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
He earns around £24,000 a year. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
It would be a shame to give the business up now, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
like, cos it's been going for three years and it's been good, you know. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
In Australia, we set up a trial day with a firm who specialise | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
in installing electrical systems into new apartments. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
Kerry-Marie Calendar is the boss. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Our company started 20 years ago. He have a staff of 65. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
My husband started in his garage and he's grown from then. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
We're a very family-orientated, happy business. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
We want to fulfil all our customers' needs, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
we're looking forward to meeting you. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
-See you later. See you, babes. -Bye. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
As Lee heads off to work, both he and Karen are aware | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
of the importance of the day ahead. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
Everything rides on the job. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
It determines where we go, where we end up. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
That's how we're getting out here, on Lee's trade, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
so yeah, a lot riding on it. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
Yeah, it's a combined thing with Freya and work. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
We can't come over without it, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:36 | |
it's a lot of points on the immigration forms. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
Lee will have to impress the new boss with his technical skills | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
and will want to earn a similar amount | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
to the £24,000 he earns in the UK. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
We're going to go and meet the guys here, OK? | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
Kerry introduces Lee to Peter and Kevin, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
who are going to show him the ropes. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
-Good luck. -Cheers, thanks very much. -All the best. -Cheers. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
The first job is on a site across town, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
but this job isn't on the scale Lee is used to. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
He has to climb the height of an unfinished skyscraper | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
and there's no lift! | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
When Lee finally gets to the top it's straight down to business. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
This kind of work is just what Lee is used to, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
but do his colleagues think he's up to the job? | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Yeah, a little bit of a difference installation-wise, work-wise, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
but I think he'll fit right in. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
I mean it's a big change but from what I've seen | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
and the lads I've spoken to, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:42 | |
I'd be quite excited about coming over and working, and starting again somewhere else. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
Lee is desperate to make this job work, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
not just for him, but for his whole family. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
I'll take you through to the board room | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
-and go through the induction process. -OK. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
If you'd like to come through. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
He's going in for the most important interview of his life. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Meanwhile, Karen has taken the kids to the beach. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
This could be the kind of safe environment she's looking for in which to bring them up, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
but thinking of her children makes her think about Freya. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
When we're at home and we do stuff like going to the beach and stuff, Freya's usually always with us, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
so that's something, if it does happen, we'll have to get used to. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
It's not going to just be hard for Lee, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
it will be hard for all of us. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
I mean, the babies idolise her. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
It's just something we're going to have to come to. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
He's going to have to see if he can do it. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
He might not be able to get on the plane. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
He might get so far and then get to the plane and say "No, I can't do it". | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
He's saying he can do it at the minute, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
but Freya's coping really well with it at the minute. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
I don't know how Lee's going to react or going to cope with it, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
if Freya breaks down, which, in all fairness, she's going to. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
What will Lee's potential boss make of him? | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
What sort of electrical experience have you got? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
Well, I started off originally doing houses, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
just domestic and then moving onto commercial, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
doing like petrol stations, fire work, fire detection, fire alarms, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:10 | |
mechanical and electrical side of them. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Interesting - we have got a mechanical side to our business. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Electrical mechanical is quite specialised experience, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-it's quite good you've got that experience. -OK. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Lee wants to know what conditions he might be working under | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
and how much he might earn. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
How many hours do electricians do? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
Mainly 40 hours a week. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
The pay rate for an electrician is 25 an hour | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
and we do pay time and a half over 40 hours. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
I mean, usually you'd probably say on average, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
I would say electricians bring home between 50 and 60,000. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Lee could earn around £24,000 a year, about the same as he earns in the UK, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:48 | |
but did he pass the test? | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
As far as going and wiring up apartments, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
he could do it with his eyes closed, basically. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
He's very experienced and he'll be like a duck to water | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
as far as the guys are concerned. Definitely fit in very well. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
The problems I was facing coming over here, thinking about it, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
was Freya first and then work was a big one coming second to that, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
but what I've done today, speaking to the lads and going on the job, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
I think I'd be quite excited about coming over. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
I think that's put that to bed, really, that one. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
It's been quite good. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
Top marks all round, so time to vote. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Thinking about it in the past there's been a couple of issues about me coming over | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
and the job was one of them, but today, talking to the lads | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
and thinking about coming over, about a change, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
I think my decision would be New Zealand. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
Karen Galloway has always dreamt of a better life in New Zealand | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
where the scenery is breathtaking and her children can roam free. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
In my heart of hearts I just think it's the right thing for us as a family to do, I really do. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
I'm just really excited at the minute, I really am! | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
But, on our family's very first day down under, disaster struck. Lee was rushed into hospital. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
I don't know where I am, I don't know who to go to. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
I'm literally on my own. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
And the properties didn't impress them, either. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
A bit like our static caravans. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
I'd have to build me own if I was going to come! | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
Son, James is far from convinced about the move. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
I expected it to be sunny, but... | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
With what we're leaving behind, I don't think we'll gain much. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
In the face of adversity, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:27 | |
both Lee and Karen are determined to make it work | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
but there's still one thing that could put a stop to everything. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
Lee's ten year old daughter would stay in the UK | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
and the emotional pull would be massive. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
For Lee, Freya is never far from his thoughts. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
Missing ya. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Hey, missing ya! | 0:36:46 | 0:36:47 | |
Torchlight procession? | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
On one of the floats? Are ya? | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
It might sound like she's just next door, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
but 12,000 miles is a long way away. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
She's in the torchlight procession tonight | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
and usually we'd just drive up for it, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
but when she said it was tonight, it was like, "Oh..." | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
That's a taste of what it will be like. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Taking some photos isn't the same as actually being there. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
I mean it might be we love it and the jobs are great | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
and the place we live in is great, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
but then I just can't do it with Freya, you know. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
It brings it home to you a bit, you know. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Lee is missing his daughter, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
but later he'll find out just how much Freya misses him. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
I don't want them to go. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Lee could find good work in New Zealand, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
but if they're going to afford their dream home, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
the Galloways will need to get a decent price | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
for their house back in the UK. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
They own a three bedroom property in Liverpool | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
which they bought in 1993 for £58,000. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
They hope it's worth £150,000, but has it held its value? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:15 | |
We sent round two estate agents to give a more recent valuation | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
in the current climate. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
A little dark. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
That's funny them saying about it being dark, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
-because we need to paint it again! -Yeah! | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
That's our kitchen. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
It's our kitchen. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
Nice kitchen extension. Light and bright, spared no expense. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
Fully fitted, great. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
My garden! | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
It's our garden. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
OK, nice child-friendly garden, lots going on in it. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
It's actually a lot larger than it looks at first. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
It could do with tidying up. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
'Extremely well-done bathroom.' | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Sunken bath' | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
His and hers sink units. Small room but very well done. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:21 | |
I'm going to have a look. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
The parents don't come up here very often! | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Great playroom for them. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
They've spent a lot of money on it, that comes through. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
For a quick sale, £125,000. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
The property's been really well-done. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
It's an exceptionally nice property. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
Looking at around £130,000 | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
with a quick sale price of around £125,000. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
I thought it was going to be... | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
Well, we knew it was about 150, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
-but that was like a while ago, wasn't it? -Yeah. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
The house prices have gone down a bit since we did the extension. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
So... | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
It would have been nice, a bit more, eh! | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
I think we're better looking at rental really, first, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
but, we'll have to sit down and work out how much exactly | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
we're going to be able to afford each month. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
The Galloways hoped for a much better valuation on their home. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
They'll need to take a closer look at their entire finances | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
to see if they can afford the move. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
We've prepared a comparison between their living expenses in the UK | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
and in New Zealand to find out which leaves them better off. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
After the dramas with Lee's health, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
the Galloways have had first-hand experience of New Zealand's health system. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:48 | |
Unlike the UK, it's part public and part private, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
so although you don't have to pay for hospital care, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
you do have to pay for a doctor's visit. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
You have to pay for your GP visits over here. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
The hospitals are like the UK, but £25 per GP visit. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
And that's only the beginning. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Water rates, £50 per month. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
It's 30, so it's dearer. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
Karen and Lee make a detailed assessment of their daily outgoings, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
including their groceries and utility bills. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
They come to an initial grand total. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
It's 530 a month in the UK | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
and 330-ish in New Zealand, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
so it's cheaper the New Zealand monthly outgoings, but... | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
-You've lost a wage. -You've lost a wage. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
In the UK, Karen earns £6,000 as a part-time healthcare assistant, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
but down under she would have to look after the children | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
and wouldn't work initially. There's more bad news. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
Back at home we don't need to fork out for flights | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
to and from New Zealand, do we, so that's an extra expense | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
that we don't have when we're at home. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Plus we'd have Freya coming out, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
-we wanted her to come out twice a year. -Someone to bring her. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
-So that's an extra couple of thousand a year, isn't it? -Yep. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
Mmm... Interesting. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
-So we're not coming to New Zealand to make it rich. -Obviously not! | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
Karen and Lee wouldn't want to come all this way to live on the breadline. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
Obviously it's going to be a strain if you're going to be struggling. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
If you're struggling. There's a difference between paying everything | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
and being comfortable and that and trying to find the money. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
It's going to be stressful anyway. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
We struggled when we first started out. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
It's just what we're going to have to do again, if we do it, if we come. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
Karen and Lee won't go down without a fight. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
It's time to vote on cost of living. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
Do you know what? I was never expecting to come to New Zealand | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
and have megabucks. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
We knew it was going to be a struggle. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
And I'm going to say - | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
yay, New Zealand! | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
It's a vote for New Zealand after all. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
If nothing else, the Galloways are positive thinkers | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
and believe they'll be able to adapt their lifestyle to living down under. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
Despite their financial worries, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
Lee and Karen are still determined to make this move work, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
but there may be a sticking point in son James, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
who's still undecided about the move. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
James has a lot to lose with his biological father being in the UK | 0:43:34 | 0:43:39 | |
and Karen wouldn't go without him. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
James, James, James, it's worrying me, to be honest. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
I can just imagine James saying he's rather stay. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Yeah, saying I'll stay with me nan. Yeah. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
He's not very impressed, is he? | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
I don't think there's that much gained in terms... | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
Like to justify the distance we're coming. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
It's the other side of the world and it's not that much better. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
Bring another shell. My thing about getting away... | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
-It was for the kids, wasn't it? -It was. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
It started when I had James, so, you know, it all started with James, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
for James, and to eventually get there | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
and James not want to come anyway it would be like a bit of a blow. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
Perhaps a blast of the New Zealand outdoors | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
will give James a new perspective. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
New Zealand's famous for its stunning landscapes and amazing natural beauty. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
It's the reason many people come to visit and live. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
We've arranged for the Galloways to go on a dolphin watching boat cruise, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
heading west into the Tasman Sea, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
which lies between New Zealand and Australia. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
-That's just gorgeous, isn't it! -Yeah! | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
A move down under could give James a brand new start. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
James had a really bad time growing up. He got bullied. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
I just don't think there's any way that James could be on his own without us. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
James's decision could ruin Karen's dreams of moving. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
If I don't like it, I'd have to just, like, tell my mum. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
It's just priorities, really. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
And if I didn't like it anyway, there's not much she can do. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
They're in luck. The dolphins have arrived. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
Dolphins have always been considered porters of good fortune for sailors, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
so could this be a good omen for James? | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
Actually a few here now. Harvey's enjoying it as well as me. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
Karen hopes that this trip will help sway his decision to move. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
Gorgeous, isn't it? | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
So what does James think about New Zealand, now? | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
Well, it's been an experience. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
It's completely different to England and from what I've seen of it, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
I do really like it. It's a bit of a change, like. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
I feel more comfortable with it now than I did before I came over here. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:02 | |
It's definitely changed my mind a little bit, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
but it's still just like all the stuff I'm leaving behind. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
I'd miss my nan, my dad and all my friends and stuff | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
and it's just like the way you've been living, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
it's a part of your past, where you live? | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
James isn't the only one, who would find the move hard. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
I will struggle, I know I will. I'm in holiday mode at the minute. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
I'll probably be in holiday mode for the first six months. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
Then when you settle down and it gets normal, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
you miss people and you can't just nip round somewhere. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
But Karen knows if you don't try, you don't succeed. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
I just think it's worth it for the kids to see them thriving. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:40 | |
When they meet their partners and they have their kids, you know, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
we look at the bigger picture. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
I think it will be beneficial coming over here. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
I think it will be a nicer way of living. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
It's time to vote for lifestyle. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
Obviously, you don't get this in the UK, so I'm going to vote for... | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
After a shaky start, the Galloways are warming up to the idea of life down under, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:13 | |
but will hearing messages from friends and family back home | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
make the decision even harder? | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
Back in the UK, the Galloways have a close-knit network of friends and family, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:24 | |
but if they move down under, they'd be leaving them all behind. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
We've arranged some messages from their loved ones back home. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
Hello. Hope you're all having a good time. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
If you do go, I'll miss you. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
I couldn't ask for a better son-in-law. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
He's the best dad I've ever known. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
And I know while our Karen's got Lee, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
she'll always be happy. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
My dad's fun because we do lots of fun things together. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
We bake pancakes and we play-fight. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:05 | |
We go swimming and we go out to the zoo. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
If they do go, then I'd miss Poppy and Harvey | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
and Karen and James. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
It's good to have a few brothers and sisters. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
At first when he told me, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
I was a little bit shocked, obviously. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
I'm going to miss him absolutely loads. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
We've grown closer together now than we've ever been, really. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
Now he's got his bike, we spend a lot of time together now. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
We go out on rides and stuff. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
We have got a lot closer since he's got older now. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
You're worried that'll go? | 0:48:41 | 0:48:42 | |
Yeah. I think that would probably go, | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
that would probably fade away when he does go away, yeah. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
I think it will. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:49 | |
James is me first grandchild | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
and there's a special bond there, you know. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
We've always been close. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
The first couple of years he lived with us because, you know, | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
Karen didn't have her own home, so he lived in my home. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
Like, Karen, you know, she's my daughter | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
and she doesn't want to leave him and she spoke to me about it, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
and she said I'm doing it for the kids, you know. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
James had a bad time in school and she doesn't want the two little ones to go through that. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
It's just going to be so hard, so hard. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
I really don't want them to go. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
I knew they were going to think about going somewhere else. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:37 | |
Because Harvey and Poppy are only little, they don't know | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
that they wouldn't see me again | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
and they won't understand, because they're only little as well. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
From a selfish point of view, do you want him to go? | 0:49:48 | 0:49:53 | |
Not really, no. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
I'll miss him too much when he does go, I really will. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
-Does he know how you feel? -No, not really, no. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
We've not really spoke like that. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
Not really opened up to each other | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
and told each other how we feel and stuff, no. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
Our Karen is an angel. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
She's the best daughter anybody could have | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
and I'm going to miss her so much. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
She's just my world. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
We're so close, she's always there for me. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
I'm going to have nobody now. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
And I don't think I could do much more than... | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
Well, you said that it would be good | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
for when I'm older and I want to do college and stuff | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
but there is colleges where I live and they're good in Kendal as well | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
but, erm... | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
I was quite shocked cos I... | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
I don't want them to go. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
If it wasn't for everyone that we're leaving behind, we would have done it years ago but... | 0:51:26 | 0:51:31 | |
It's going to be the hardest thing we've ever done and, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
you know, it might be the worst thing we've ever done, you don't know... | 0:51:37 | 0:51:43 | |
I can't even...imagine the day we leave, can you? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:48 | |
No, I can't. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:49 | |
It's all so easy when you're just talking about it, you know. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
It's when you see all the people you're leaving behind, then you start thinking about it... | 0:51:55 | 0:52:01 | |
You know, before we'd had a look at it... | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
Yeah. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
What about you, James? | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
It just makes you think even more how hard it's going to be. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
I've always thought that but seeing that makes it a lot harder. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
We mightn't be able to live with it, we mightn't like it, we might miss people too much. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:30 | |
You know, when do you do it, when's the right time? | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
Me head is just all over the place at the minute after seeing that. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
Seeing messages from loved ones so far away is never easy. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:45 | |
It's even harder when you're leaving a child behind. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
The Galloways are almost at the end of their week in New Zealand | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
and it's nearly decision time. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
Karen Galloway has always been desperate to move to New Zealand, where the outdoor lifestyle | 0:52:55 | 0:53:00 | |
will provide the perfect setting to bring up her children. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
I just really want to do it. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
Actually, at the minute I'm so excited, I could burst! | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
But the introduction to their possible new life started with a scare. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
He's in the hospital. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
I'm literally on my own. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
When it came to finding their dream home, they were far from impressed. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
They're a bit like our static caravans. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
Starting again would be a massive risk. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
Lee knows only too well how much his daughter Freya would miss him | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
and seeing messages from family back in the UK has really hit home how hard this decision will be. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:39 | |
When you see how upset people are, it brings home to you | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
how massive a thing it is you're doing and how huge it is | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
and how we're going to affect everyone's world. Not just ours, it's everyone you're leaving behind. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:53 | |
That was a real kick in the face cos being over here and seeing... | 0:53:53 | 0:53:58 | |
I didn't want to come at first and then I've come here and seen everything | 0:53:58 | 0:54:02 | |
and that's brought me back down to earth again. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
Watching that video has hit James hard, to be honest. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
Yeah, I think James feels torn, like we all do. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
My head's all over the place at the moment. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
I seem to be the one stuck in the middle of everything so it's quite hard. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
For Lee, the trip has thrown up more questions than answers. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
The Freya side of it, it's never going to be easy | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
and I think we've got to sit down and talk a bit more about it, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:36 | |
not just us as a family but sit down with Freya and discuss... if there's a right time to do it... | 0:54:36 | 0:54:42 | |
and is she going to cope, or are we going to cope? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
It's not just Lee that's losing Freya, it's all of us. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
She's been in my life since she was a babe in arms and it'll be a wrench for all of us. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:55 | |
The kids idolise her and I don't know how anyone is going to cope | 0:54:55 | 0:55:00 | |
with the guilt of leaving her. We don't know how she's going to cope with it. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:06 | |
If we see her break down, do we get to the airport and say, "No, we can't do it," and come back? | 0:55:06 | 0:55:11 | |
But it's time for the Galloways to make their final decision. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
It's the hardest thing, the biggest upheaval we're ever going to do | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
and I just hope that everyone can cope with it, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
but I think it's the right thing to do and I'm going to go for New Zealand. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:29 | |
I'm still weighing it up, but I'm going to give it a go. New Zealand. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
Before I came, I had more...concerns than I do now. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:39 | |
I think I could quite easily settle here and I'm going to say New Zealand. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:45 | |
New Zealand. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
The Galloways have experienced | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
how traumatic moving to another country can be. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
They've made a brave decision | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
and we wish them all the very best with their new life in New Zealand. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:01 | |
Join us next time when another British family have to decide | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
whether they're Wanted Down Under. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
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