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Welcome to Wanted Down Under, the show that catapults a British family to the other side of the world | 0:00:02 | 0:00:08 | |
to help them make the biggest decision of their life - | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
whether to stay in the UK or to move to Australia. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
Sally Mills has always wanted to emigrate to Australia. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
It's so beautiful here and I just really wanted to work here. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
She's travelled there before and is drawn to the warm climate and outdoor life. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
Husband, Jem, is not so sure. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Having built a successful psychotherapy business in the UK, he's worried about risking it all. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
If I couldn't work as a therapist in Australia, it wouldn't work for me. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
They get the taste of the beauty and luxury of the Australian dream. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
My goodness - this is amazing! | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
-Wow! -Wow! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
It's like a big fairy tale, really. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
But Jem is forced to face harsh realities on the work front. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
It would involve going back to the salary that I was on years ago. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
-The figures just don't add up. -It would be very difficult to consider the move, I think. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
You can't live the dream if you can't afford to pay for it. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
You're almost scared to look, scared to open up your eyes to the kind of life we could have here. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:14 | |
I don't know where I am with it - it's all up in the air. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Will the fairy tale have an unhappy ending? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Around 150 people a day migrate to Australia in search of a better life. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
And anyone who's under the age of 45 and on the skills shortage list | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
could be heading down under at the head of the queue. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
But for all these families, how hard is the decision and do they find what they are looking for? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
We've given another British family | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
the opportunity to spend a week down under, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
to see if it's all they've dreamt it would be. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
After that, they'll have to make a decision one way or the other - | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
to stay in the UK or to move to Australia. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Sally and Jem Mills live in Eastbourne with their three children, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
Jevon, nine, Rowan, five and Hannah, who's four. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Sally visited Australia as a backpacker 16 years ago. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
I know I love it and I know I would probably, as long as the family are happy, move there tomorrow. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:35 | |
But I am concerned about Jem a little bit. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Both Sally and Jem work as psychotherapists - they've built up a successful business from scratch. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:43 | |
I feel a massive emotional attachment to the business. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
There's something special about having an idea, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
seeing it in your mind's eye, and then, over a period of years, watching it come to fruition. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
And because of that, it would be a very hard thing to leave. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
We are very, very happy and proud of what we've achieved through the work we do. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
And it would be... It's a big thing to take him away from that. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Sally's not one for sitting around. She's been researching a potential move for months, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:12 | |
and has already found a place to stay on an internet house-exchange website. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
The people with this gorgeous house, really lovely house, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
they're coming to travel round Europe and spend some time in the UK. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
-They're architects. -Yeah, they've built this house themselves. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
And they've just said, "Come on, come over and stay in our house." | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
Jem has never been to Australia before | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
but he is keen to test the water. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Sally is the main driver for this whole thing, really. She's been before. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
I'm a bit fearful, way there at the back, possibly, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
that we'll just end up with an OK lifestyle. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
That it'll be a big move, we'll be away from friends and family, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
and the lifestyle isn't going to be enough of a kind of draw | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
to really sit back of an evening and think, "Gosh, that really was the right move for us." | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
To make the move, it's got to be better than we already have. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
The Mills have a lot to lose so what will they decide? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
16 years ago, Sally fell in love with Byron Bay, so that's where they are considering starting a new life. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:18 | |
Byron Bay is a beachside town, roughly 100 miles south of Brisbane, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
and is the easternmost point of mainland Australia. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
Back in the '60s, its amazing surf breaks and beaches were discovered by surfers, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
and the town soon built up a reputation as an alternative destination. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
The Mills will be looking for a spacious four-bedroom house here to fit their £450,000 budget, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:43 | |
as long as they can also find good work. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Byron Bay has a variety of lifestyles on offer. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
We've put together three that might suit the Mills. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Let's take a look at the first option. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
The town of Byron Bay has grown in recent years, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
and there's a big alternative therapy scene here. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
But there are already many psychotherapists in town | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
and opening a brand new business would be highly competitive, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
so they may struggle to match their combined UK salary of £55,000. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
House prices are expensive. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
A three-bedroom town house like this costs around £450,000, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
which is just within their budget but doesn't offer the space they're after. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
So, very different from their life in the UK. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
So what about the second option? | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
The rolling hills of Byron County are stunning, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
and the Mills would love the spacious properties with big gardens | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
but that dream home could be way beyond their budget. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
This spectacular four-bedroom home is a beautiful example of rural, open-plan living, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:49 | |
but it doesn't come cheap. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
You'd have to pay around £850,000 to buy it. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Smaller houses within budget will be available but they have to shop around. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
Living out here means the Mills would have to commute for up to an hour. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:06 | |
All very nice if you can afford it. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
What about the third option? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
The coastal options around Byron County are many, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
and will provide the Mills with a family-friendly alternative | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
to Byron Bay's bustling streets. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
There may be opportunities to start a business here eventually | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
but to begin with, Jem would need to find a salaried mental health job, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
which would pay around £30,000. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Work would be an hour's commute away. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
The Mills could buy a four-bedroom house here for £400,000. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
If their new business took off, they could afford something like this, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
which is on the market for half a million. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
So, three very different lifestyle options | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
but the Mills have found their own place to stay. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
They've chosen the coastal town of Lennox Head. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
With its great beach and quiet atmosphere, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
they hope they will be able to settle in and meet new friends. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
We've got some properties for them to look around. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Wow! Look at that view! | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
We've set up some meetings with mental health professionals, so they can assess their opportunities. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:11 | |
But they have a tough week ahead, as they try to make the biggest decision of their lives. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
I don't want to invite the idea of moving to Australia in at the moment, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
because we've not made our mind up. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
The journey from London takes 3 flights and 27 hours. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
The Mills finally touch down in the Gold Coast at 9:15am local time. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
They've spent months arranging this trip and it's finally happening. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
My main goals are to see if my husband and the family like Australia. I hope they will. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:50 | |
I felt really good flying in. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
When we touched down in Sydney, I just felt, this is so great, it felt so right. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
Jem is keen to make up his own mind. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
What I'm really looking forward to finding out this week is what the work prospects are like, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
whether the Lennox Head area that we're staying in | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
is going to be a community that we really feel we could be part of. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
It is important that if we move out here, that what we have here can really feel like home. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
Tired! | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
The Mills are on their way to Lennox Head, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
two hours' drive from the Gold Coast and an hour south of Byron Bay, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
their temporary new home is ready and waiting. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Sally has been in communication with designer and homeowner, Melina Pandelides, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
to arrange the house exchange. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
To pick this time of year, and especially today, to arrive - it's just going to blow them away. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:45 | |
Because it's even blowing me away - it's just the most incredible day. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
This design is based on a Japanese idea | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
in which separate buildings containing bedrooms and studio spaces | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
are linked together with walkways and conservatories. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
The result is a spacious, calm environment. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
This house recently won an Australian Home of the Year award. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
In the UK, a place like this might run into millions. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
In Lennox Head, it's valued at approximately £800,000. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
Jem and Sally couldn't afford somewhere like this to start with, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
but it will give them a great springboard to explore the area. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
As the Mills arrive, they're full of anticipation. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Sally has been in contact with Melina for months but never actually met. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
Very exciting. We've had a lot of e-mail correspondence together, got to know each other really well. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:54 | |
I feel a real sense that we do know each other really well, but this is actually the first time we've met. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
I'm really looking forward to meeting them. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
I'm a little bit nervous about it, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
but we're all very excited about meeting them. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Hello. It's so nice to meet you! | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
I feel like we've already met. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Your house is beautiful. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Melina and Phil are off on holiday themselves, but just have time to show the Mills around. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
So, this is the link. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Pool. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
And as you can see, it's fenced off. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
It's so lovely. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-I wouldn't think of swimming in the pool now but you guys might. -Definitely will! | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
The spacious design immediately chimes with Jem's love of the Orient. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
It feels very Zen-like to me, the garden, is that the influence? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
Yes, directly from Japanese modular concept. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
It's all on a grid module matrix. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
I really love the way you can't tell whether you're inside or outside, wherever you are in the house. | 0:10:54 | 0:11:00 | |
It's absolutely perfect. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
Melina and Phil have a whole wing to themselves. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
This is the bedroom, master bedroom, the parents' retreat. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
-I love that term that you use in Australia. -It's not used in Britain? -No. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
It conjures up all sorts of ideas of things we haven't had for a while. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
-It's nice when a view is framed, isn't it? -Oh, it's just... Yes. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-There's a bottle of wine missing from there. -It's in the fridge! | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
-OK, and this is the master bedroom. -Lovely! | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
I hope you guys don't mind light in the morning. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
Actually... | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
These blinds come down, but they're translucent. So you can never really block out the light. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
-A nice cup of tea for me waiting. -That's the deal. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
Melina specialises in top-notch bathrooms with those added extras. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
-A bath with a view. -It's like a big egg. -Yeah, isn't it? -Where did you get the bath from? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
From Bali. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
Not the local furniture shop, then? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
I've never seen a water plane before. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
-They're OK. But you can't leave it on for too long, because it's a bit slow in drainage. -OK. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
So it's more beautiful than efficient, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
but it's all about the look! | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
This is very important. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Whenever I design bathrooms, I always try to design a loo with a view. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
So, this is a loo with a view of a 200-year-old ficus. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
I was quite jealous about it because, for a guy, this is great, he gets the view, right? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
That's why I put the mirror here, so that when we're on the loo, we can still get a reflection. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
-Very clever. -That is clever, isn't it? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
At the other end of the house, their children have a large space of their own. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
So this is the... Well, this is Clay's wing now - now that she is an only girl, an only child. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
Our two boys are out of the home, so this is pretty much her space. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
With this amazing home, the Mills have really landed on their feet. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
Have fun. And you look after my cats, too, OK? | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Their newest friends are off on an adventure of their own, leaving Sam and Jem to settle in. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
Take care, bye-bye. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
-24 hour flight and... -It's been about 40 hours we've been travelling for, isn't it? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
I'd be blown away if I was really fresh coming to a place like this. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
On the back of that kind of journey, where you feel a bit weird anyway... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
Just to have this kind of beauty, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
it's kind of blown me away. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:22 | |
Yeah. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
It's like a big fairy tale, really. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
This is just the beginning, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
but how long will the fairy tale last? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Back in the UK, the Mills have a three-bedroom townhouse in an upmarket district of Eastbourne. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
But it's just not big enough for their growing family and they'd love a bit more space. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:48 | |
In Australia, they are looking for a four- or five-bedroom house, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
and have a budget of up to £450,000, depending on employment and what they can get for their property at home. | 0:13:52 | 0:14:00 | |
Property one is a four-bedroom house on a quiet estate | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
and is on the market at £325,000, well within budget. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
It has an immediate impact on Rowan... | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
I think it's very good. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
..but Sally isn't so sure. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
It's not the kind of house we'd go for from the outside, really, is it? | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
It's kind of, lots of bricks. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Let's have a look in the bedroom. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
So, is this the main bedroom? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
-I guess it probably is. -It's quite small, isn't it? -Yeah. Smaller than what we'd be used to. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
Looks like they're not really using this room. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
The main reception is spacious, if nothing else. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
It looks very formal, doesn't it? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
-It does. -No character in here at all. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
-It feels a bit like a village hall, in a way. -This room? -It's a bit soulless. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Hopefully the kids' bedrooms will be more to their taste. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Wow! Do you see the fairies? Bet you love this room, don't you, Rowan? | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
I don't really like it. There's girls' stuff. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
Boys don't really like girls' stuff. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
The thing that I like is this. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
I like this | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
but I don't like all the other stuff. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Will the all-important garden change their minds? | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
I've just realised - what else is missing? | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
-Swimming pool. -Oh, yeah. No swimming pool. -No room to build a swimming pool. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
-You could dig there but then you'd lose your football pitch. -We've got to have a swimming pool. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
-Mum says we've got to have a swimming pool! -It's essential. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
So, I don't know. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
That means this one's probably out. Yeah. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
The simple red brick house is hardly the luxury the Mills have become accustomed to. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:52 | |
I guess because we've stayed in Australia's favourite home, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
anything we look at today is obviously not going to come up to that level. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
But we wouldn't expect it to. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
There's beautiful houses in England we can't live in, because we can't afford them. That's life. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
Australia's favourite home, would be our favourite home, too. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Rowan's also decided this house isn't for him, after all. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
-I hate this house. -You hate this house? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Rowan, hate is not a very nice word. You don't like it but we don't have to say hate, do we? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:23 | |
Perhaps property two might give them what they want. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
It's a four-bedroom house plus study and has a pool and garden. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
It's on the market | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
for around £450,000, right on budget | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
but they would both need to have jobs or run a profitable business to afford it. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
-I love it. It's really unusual, isn't it? -Now, this house makes the last one look ugly. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
-Yes. It does. -It's so beautiful. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
It does. It's beautiful. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
This is much more to their taste, but will the interior match their expectations? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
-Let's have a look. -Oh, this is more us, isn't it? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Definitely. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
With three massive living spaces and a high-spec finish, surely this house will do the trick. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
Wow! | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
-This is a nice family room, isn't it? -It is a nice family room. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Again, you've got the kitchen and... Look at that television! | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
-It's like a cinema! -I'm disappointed that I like it. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-Cos it's huge! -It's not you at all. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
It's not me at all, but I'm thinking, that's really... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-I love this window. -Great. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-Wow! This is a balcony. Is that safe? -I think so. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Looks pretty safe. ..Don't play with other people's stuff. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
It's another nice sitting area, isn't it? Oh, this is beautiful. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Now, that's all right, isn't it? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
That's lovely. A balcony, too. This is gorgeous! | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
-A bathroom! -Look! | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
So I guess you'd get evening sun here. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Yeah, I guess you would. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
The Mills can't wait to get outside and explore the exotic garden. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
It's like a jungle. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
-Yeah! -Yeah! Oh, this is nice. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
This pool area is just like the pool area we imagined | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
because I want somewhere where we can sit like this | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-and they can just play and we can kind of just be together. -This is what I had in mind. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-BIRD SINGS -Did you hear that? What was that? | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
-No idea. -Gorgeous! -Some wild bird. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
-I love that nature's so close to where you are. -Yes, right in the middle of it. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
And I imagine, of an evening, that would be even more atmospheric. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
-Wouldn't it be lovely? -It's so tropical, isn't it? All the plants and... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
The beautiful outdoor space has sparked the whole family's imagination. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
It's good for playing pelican chess. Check, pelican! | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
With a home like this, the Mills' dream could become a reality. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
It's time for property number three. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
This is a four-bedroom house on the same road as the house they are staying in. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
It's on the market | 0:18:51 | 0:18:52 | |
for over £500,000, and is over the Mills' budget. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
But they want to see what may be possible if they can settle in and build a successful business. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:03 | |
Not many properties have a bridge to the front door. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Wow! Look at that! You can see straight through the door. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Wow! Look at that view. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
It's gorgeous. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
This house seems to suit their taste. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Why wouldn't it? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Balcony! | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Oh, my goodness. This is amazing. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
Don't touch it. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-Don't touch the balls. Look at that. -Just incredible, isn't it? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:38 | |
-Wow! -Wow! This is amazing. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
This is such a nice, big space, isn't it? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-Look at the kitchen. Isn't it lovely? -Really good. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
It's really gorgeous. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
Jem and Sally seem to be blown away by this home's slick and contemporary finish. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:56 | |
But is it really a family home? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
In the master bedroom, there's a romantic theme. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-I don't think we would be that obvious. -No. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
-That would probably have to go. -If we had a bit of an argument or something. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
-Yes! -I'm having a bath and I'm putting the blind down! | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
I'm taking the "love" away as well! | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
Shall we go down and see the garden? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
It's wonderful. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-Barbecue, look. -Up the hill! | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
Despite the lack of a pool, there's communal land at the back of the house for the kids to run around. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:31 | |
For Jem, the stylish properties have opened his eyes to the potential of Australian culture. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
One thing I was concerned about coming over here was that it's a relatively young country. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
That maybe there's a lack of depth of culture and stuff. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
But I think one thing I've realised is, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
there's a huge amount of creativity, a lot of richness of ideas and community, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:53 | |
that I maybe wasn't expecting. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
I think there's areas within Australia that are as you imagine them to be - | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
quite suburban and, dare I say, soulless. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
But there's something really special about this area around Byron and Lennox Head. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
I think it's quite different to stereotypical Australia. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
-It's quite special. -It is a very special area. -A special place. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
Although they are excited by possibilities in the area, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
the Mills have still got their feet firmly on the ground. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
This is the top end of our price range. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-It depends what kind of work we get. -Yeah. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
At this stage, we don't know how that's going to pay, how much work we are going to be able to get, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:31 | |
whether we're able to do some private practice, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-which would support an income to help us to do that. -Yeah. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
The Mills have seen three very different properties | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
and have been inspired by the impressive design and architecture. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
So, how will they vote on property? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
So, we've been looking at properties in Australia today. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Now, it's time for us to decide. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
And we're going to vote... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Australia! | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
Those properties really whet the Mills' appetite | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
but they've got to get the kind of work to pay for that dream lifestyle. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
So, are they going to find it? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Back in the UK, Jem and Sally run a successful psychotherapy business. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
They specialise in cognitive behavioural therapy or CBT. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
I absolutely love my job. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
Really, really do. It's kind of... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
It sounds like a corny cliche, but a lot of the time, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
it feels like a privilege to be in the situations that we are in. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
But it is their original nursing training that will provide the entrance visa. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
In Australia, without degrees in psychology, they are not qualified to practise psychotherapy. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
The work thing is the real thing for me, with him | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
and I'm just wondering, these difficulties with recognising nurses doing cognitive behavioural therapy, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:05 | |
whether he's going to feel that he fits in there. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Jem hopes his CV is good enough to buck the system. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
If I couldn't work as a therapist in Australia, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
it wouldn't work for me. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
He'd love to build his CBT business down under, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
but, initially, he'd like the security of a salary while the family settle in. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:26 | |
He's come to meet Richard Buss, the head of mental health services in the area. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
-Jem, hi, pleased to meet you. Richard Buss. -Thanks very much for your time. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
That's all right. Welcome to the north coast. A long way from home! | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
It's a large facility, for the whole area. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
We've got 48 beds here, community mental health and area mental health. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Jem knows only too well what's at stake. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
We've only been here a couple of days, but everything's so lovely and so perfect. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
I was worried that I was going to find something that would be a deal breaker. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
And I suppose this could be it, really. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Jem, I've been looking at your CV, which you kindly sent us, so thanks very much. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
Great experience, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
a very different experience than a traditional pathway that a nurse in mental health would take here. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
Jem's keen to impress. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
I personally think it's very important to feel like I can contribute to my fullest extent. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:24 | |
One of the things that I'm really keen on is professional development, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
just trying to be the best mental health worker you can be. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
But will Richard be able to help him? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Mostly, cognitive behavioural therapy is being done by psychologists. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
So, I think the thing is, if you were to look at a job here, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
you would probably be going into a nursing role, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
and then using your skills and your CBT skills in that role, in nursing, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
as opposed to being employed as a psychotherapist, to begin with. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
That's a huge blow. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
Being a nurse will not only result in a cut in salary, to around £30,000, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
he'd also have to work shifts. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
It would be much more of a struggle than he had hoped. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
That would involve going back to ways of working, and in some cases, the salary that I was on years ago. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
I haven't worked shifts for 14 years. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
I think the biggest challenge for Jem would be fitting back into the system, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
and back into a nursing role, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
and then implementing and introducing his ideas around CBT to an acute care team. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
That would be the biggest challenge. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
If we had everything else in place, but I was doing work that I didn't find exciting and energising, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:37 | |
then it would be very difficult to consider the move, I think. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
# Opportunities available in all walks of life in Australia... # | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
Sally's trying to forget her worries about Jem. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
She's taken the kids shopping in Byron Bay. She was last here 16 years ago. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:57 | |
When I was here as a backpacker, it was great that it was hippified | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
cos that was where I was at then. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
But now I've got a family, it's kind of really lovely to know that it's more family focused now. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
That makes me even more excited about the whole idea of moving out here. So that's great. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
She's doing some research of her own, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
to find out if their ultimate goal of opening a private practice might be possible. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
Catherine Chugg has a successful psychotherapy practice in Byron Bay. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Would you mind telling me a little bit about what would perhaps be the main challenges for us, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
coming into the Byron Bay area to set up a private practice in psychotherapy? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:40 | |
It would be building a reputation, going to meet GPs and being really clear and specific what you do. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:47 | |
It's finding the right way to get known. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Sure, it is. You've just got to go out there and meet different people, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
-speak to people like yourself and get some leads and make some contacts, really. -Yeah. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
I don't want to be rude or anything, but is it OK to ask a little bit about our earning potential, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
perhaps the charges that you may have for clients? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Generally, people in this area, they don't want to pay more than, you know, 100 bucks an hour. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
It's not like a city, where you can charge 150 or 200 an hour. It's... | 0:27:12 | 0:27:18 | |
You have to be mindful of the economic status of people here. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Of course you do. OK. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
Byron Bay is a highly competitive environment. So opening a practice straightaway would be risky. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:30 | |
I just don't think we're going to be able to match what we have already. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
We have got our own business in the UK. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
It's successful. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
We've got great people we work with. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
I don't know how or whether we are going to be able to match that at all. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
Her hopes ride on Jem. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
She knows how ambitious he is. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
He has to be able to know that he can enjoy his work here, that there's prospects for him. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:56 | |
Thank you very much. Very good, yes, lots to talk about. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
He's very happy in the work he does in the UK. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
So, yes, it could jeopardise the whole thing, really. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
Moving to the other side of the world would be a huge gamble, personally and professionally. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:13 | |
Jem has to drop the bomb shell to Sally that nursing might be the only option to start with. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:19 | |
It would be going back to shift work. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Some of the shifts go on till 10 o'clock at night. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
And it's working weekends. And the starting salary, before you get to the clinical nurse specialist, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:32 | |
is something like 60,000, just over. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
-So that's just over 30... So it's going back 15 years. -That wouldn't really work for us. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
You want to walk into your permanent dream job, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
but if you get over here and you're somebody that can make things happen, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
then, the world's your oyster. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Exactly. You and I are not going to have a cast-iron guarantee. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
-No. -If we decide to do this, we're going to have to accept the risk. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
Do we just try it, see what it's like for us, or not? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
So I think we're going to have to be quite brave to do it with the three kids. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
It's quite a thing to, you know, hoick them out of school. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:12 | |
But then again, the pay-offs, if it does well, potentially, are enormous. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
So it's just like, which way do you go, really? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Right here, right now, in terms of what's on offer, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
it has to be the UK. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
-And for me, it's in the middle. -Ooh. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
Without the work they love, the Mills' Byron Bay dream hangs in the balance. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
The Mills' work prospects are in doubt | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
and they'll have to think seriously whether they can afford the move. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
A lot of this will depend on what price they can get for their house back in the UK. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
Sally and Jem own a three-bedroom house in Eastbourne. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
They bought it back in 2005 for £200,000. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:03 | |
Today, they believe it's worth around 300,000. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
Let's go. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
We sent two estate agents to their home for an up-to-date valuation. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:15 | |
A nice, spacious hallway. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
From the outside, it looked a little bit like it needed a bit of TLC and cleaning. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
TLC and cleaning up on the outside? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
It's a very good location with the primary school opposite. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
-It's your school. -Couldn't be any closer. It's great. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
Oh, this is a lovely room. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
I love the fireplace. It's nice to have some old features in there. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Very nice. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
My room! | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
For the third bedroom, it's a nice size. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Again, original fireplace is nice. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
What's negative for some is good for others. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
I mean, the school opposite, for some, is a fantastic point. For others, it's not so good. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
I think, at this moment in time, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
the true value of this property stands to be around 250,000. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
-Goodness me. -I think we could market it slightly higher. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
It's very low, isn't it? | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
Obviously, the only slight disadvantage is the smaller back garden, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
which tends to be showing, probably, in the price. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
250 is the area I'd expect to achieve. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
Really? Gosh. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
I might put it on the market at 259,950 to allow for offers. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
I'd have expected it to be more around the kind of 300. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
-Yeah, I suppose, we hoped, really, didn't we? -Yeah. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
-We haven't been following the market. -I think it's just the current market, really. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
I think that's the reason why, if we made the move, we wouldn't sell it anyway. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
We'd wait for property prices to go back up. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
After the disappointment with work prospects, this is yet another blow for Jem and Sally. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
It almost feels like I don't want to see how wonderful it is and how beautiful it is. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
I look at the view and I think, "God, it's just so gorgeous." | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
You're almost scared to look. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
You're scared to open up your eyes to the kind of life we could have here | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
because, if we can't get it all to fit together, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
then it might not work for us, you know. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
It's like we're here, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:37 | |
but I don't want to invite the idea of moving to Australia in at the moment | 0:32:37 | 0:32:45 | |
because we've not made our mind up. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
And it's a bit sad, really. It's kind of... | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
You can see the beauty, the possibilities, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
-but emotionally we're just holding off a bit because of that. -Mm-hm. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
I don't know where I am with it all, really. It's all up in the air. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
We have to see, really. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
It seems to be going from bad to worse for the Mills. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
If they're going to keep their dream alive, they're going to have to work out all their finances. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
We've compared their living expenses in the UK and Australia | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
so they can work out if they can afford to live down under. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
Shall we do the pool? | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Pool, yeah. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
-£100. -Wow. Is that all of it? -Yeah. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
Now what about the children's clubs? | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
OK, so, £100... I mean, this is expensive for children's clubs. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:49 | |
With a large family, the price of groceries is a big weekly outlay. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
Bagels are 4 for a four-pack. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
They are roughly twice the price. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
-Twice the price, goodness me, look at that. -Blueberries... -Gosh! | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
..are very expensive. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
I think anything they have to import will be a lot more money. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
It's all the processed stuff that's really expensive. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
-No more luxuries then. -No more luxuries? We don't do luxuries! | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
The cost of living in Australia isn't as low as many people imagine. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
It's time for the final reckoning. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
We would be £511 worse off. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
£511 worse off. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:39 | |
-This is a bit close to the line, is it? -I think so, yeah. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
You're more likely to be... If big things come up... | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
Yeah. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
We don't want to be over here struggling. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
-Yeah. -Having to go into the overdraft, credit cards. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Jem and Sally have had their eyes opened by the financial reality. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
Yesterday, I was saying that, from a vocational point of view or a career point of view, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
I wouldn't be that interested in coming back as a registered nurse. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
It actually transpires that we probably couldn't afford to, either. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
In terms of our current lifestyle, the money we spend on the children, we could be quite stuck. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
We wouldn't want to come here to the other side of the world, away from our families, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
and just be running out of money every month. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Jem and Sally aren't ones to give up easily. For them, where there's a will there's a way. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:33 | |
The fact that we've discovered financially that it's not doable as a registered nurse, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
just tells me that's not the way we're gonna do it. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
-It's not the path to take. -Another way will emerge. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
I want to play hide and seek! | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
We very, very much believe that if you hold that idea in your mind, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
then you're much more likely to be able to see the opportunities for it | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
and end up achieving, ultimately, what you want. I still believe that. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
And if it's meant to be, it's meant to be - it will happen in that way. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Even positive thinking can't change facts and, on the cost of living, it's time to vote. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:09 | |
This morning we've been looking at the cost of living comparing Australia to the UK | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
and, with everything in mind, we're going to vote... | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
in the middle. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:18 | |
Now, if you're the active type, then Australia has something for everyone. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
And Byron Bay has built its reputation on one thing - surfing. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
And it's largely due to its prime geographical position. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
The largest island on the planet sticks into the biggest ocean | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
and this is where it happens - | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Byron Bay, the eastern tip of the Australian continent. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
Byron Bay was discovered as a great place to live by surfers and hippies in the '60s. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:52 | |
It's a working-class town. They had a couple of policemen, one sergeant. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
It was sort of like the old Wild West with the sheriff. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
You could come with your surfboard, walk onto the beach, stay with friends | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
or just camp out on the beach. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Since then, surfing has exploded around the world as a way to exercise both body and mind. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:12 | |
Surfing is a sensory sport. It stimulates all the senses. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
You can smell it, you can see it, you can touch it, you can feel it. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
And it actually works on subliminal levels as well, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
where you're mentally becoming aware of things in a way that you're not normally in your everyday life. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
You're going along on a wave, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
everything's fine then you get a section, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
something breaks in front of you and you gotta go down and around it or up over it or through it | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
so it's an interesting sort of way to look at life, too. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
But, if you're new to surfing, make sure you get a lesson. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
Take the time to come and pay a small amount of money to get some basic information | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
to go and have a safe, fun experience in the ocean. It's money so well spent. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
When you go out surfing, you're going in another environment. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
You can step on a rock, you can get eaten by a shark, you can get run over. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
A lot of things can happen. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
So, it calls for real awareness. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
So, if you've got the nerve, surfing is a great sport to try. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
Come to Byron Bay. It's a dynamic area, it really is. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
It's a beautiful beach environment. We're lucky. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Byron Bay is one of the surfing Meccas of the world. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
Jem and Sally Mills dreamt of a fairy-tale lifestyle down under | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
and when they arrived at their luxury pad they thought they'd found it. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
-Oh, my goodness - this is amazing! -It's like a big fairy tale, really. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
But the reality of jobs available and their finances hit home. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
That would involve going back to the salary that I was on years ago. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
Listening to messages from loved ones is never easy. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
They are a very important part of my life. I shall miss them. A lot. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
Sally is desperate to make the move but will she ever be able to convince Jem? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
Life out here could be so good for us, but is there going to be enough for him workwise? | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Are we going to be able to resolve those issues? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
It's kind of resting with me a bit. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
And... That's a bit of pressure, I guess. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
Who knows what they'll decide? But one thing's for sure - | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
the Mills will want to make the most of the sporty Australian outdoors. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
But is it really better than the life they have in the UK? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Back in the UK, Jem and the kids enjoy all aspects of oriental culture including meditation and karate. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:33 | |
So, in Australia, we've set them up with a martial arts club in Byron Bay. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
It's an important part of our life. The boys love their karate after school. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
If we came over here, we would really be looking for something to replace that | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
and hopefully, fingers crossed, this is going to be the one. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
-Nice to meet you. -You too. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
Sam Calibro is the instructor. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
He's keen to see what the kids are made of. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
As Jevon and Rowan use up their excess energy, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Jem takes the chance to question parent and ex-pat James Robinson-Gale about the hardships of emigrating. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:31 | |
Those first few years, it was really difficult. I really felt... | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
-Homesick? -Yeah, absolutely homesick. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
But now, this is it. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
It seems odd to go back home now. I mean, I miss several things. You get nostalgic about things. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:45 | |
-Do you go back much? -Unfortunately my father died recently... | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
-I heard. I'm sorry about that. -..so I had to go back, so that sort of wrench is very difficult. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
If you can get over all those feelings of loss, being away from the UK, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
it's a wonderful standard of living, quality of life - particularly with little ones. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:06 | |
It's Jem's turn to have a go. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:17 | |
He's learned a different form of martial arts in the UK so could be in for a battering. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
# Jungle boogie | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
# Jungle boogie Get it on | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
# Jungle boogie | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
# Jungle boogie Get it on | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
# Jungle boogie... # | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
That was great. Really enjoyed that. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
It's a really good workout and some of the younger ones, especially the guy at the end, were beating me up. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:45 | |
I've got a lot to learn! | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
For Jem, it's not just about the karate, it's about the people. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
One thing I get concerned about is whether or not we'll fit in, make friends, that kind of stuff. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
It's hard to imagine there could be an easier place to make friends - they are so open and friendly. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
I really appreciate it. Thank you very much, sir. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
So, how's he going to vote on the lifestyle? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
Australia! | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
Jem's feeling more at home in Byron Bay but will Sally find what she's looking for? | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
Back in Eastbourne, she's a member of a local running club. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
After years and years of struggling with a regular exercise routine, I've finally, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:23 | |
over the last couple of years, established one, which I'm really happy with and really enjoy. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:28 | |
It's been fantastic, so I'd really miss that. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
In Australia, it's 5:30am. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
And some of Byron Bay's roughest and toughest are up for a spot of light exercise. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
Right, starting straight into it, guys! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Fitness instructor, Daniel Clifton-Northey runs boot camp courses every week. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
He can't wait to put Sally through her paces. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
The runners go. The bag throwers go. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
Patrol between logs. Stop, this team. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:10 | |
I hope you didn't do your nails. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
No one's counting, especially Sally. Start again. Let's go! | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
This team over here working well together. This is your last lap. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:26 | |
Come on, Sally, put your back into it. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
Come on, guys, let's go. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:30 | |
Don't let them beat you this easy. Let's go. 30 seconds. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
Rather you than me, Sally! | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
-Oh yeah, mate. Oh yeah. -All right? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Let your elbow go just behind your shoulder and you'll feel it right across the front of your chest. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:58 | |
The setting here is just absolutely gorgeous. I mean, look at the views. They're spectacular. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:11 | |
A really nice group of people. Similar to Eastbourne, similar kind of guys. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
Really friendly. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:17 | |
So I'm really pleased to see that there's something I could do here, fitnesswise. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
Byron Bay has everything to offer a family like the Mills but Sally is feeling the strain. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:28 | |
It's a feeling of unsettlement | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
and I think that's a feeling that other people that are trying this can relate to. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
Nothing seems familiar so it's a kind of sense of vulnerability, being here and being away from home. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:42 | |
It's scary, in a way, the thought of moving away from everything familiar and coming to a new place, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:49 | |
even though the new place offers everything you could possibly want it to. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
It's still quite a scary thing to think about doing. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
The reality of the move is kicking in. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Is Sally now changing her mind? | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
The Mills have had a long week and lots on their mind. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
Will seeing messages from loved ones back home make the decision to move down under even harder? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:17 | |
Hi, Jem, hi, Sally. Hi, Jevon, Rowan and Hannah. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
Hi, it's Mum here. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
I'm hoping you're having a wonderful time. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
You know, people say that their brother is their best friend. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
Well, in Jem's case, that's true. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
He's been a rock to me through some very traumatic, dark times in my life. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
He's like a best friend, as well as a brother. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
Sally, yes, she's very laid-back. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
She's a really lovely mum and good with the kids, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
and very good with me. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
She's always willing to listen. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
Sally was one of the inaugural members of our running group. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
She's always there, smiling, keeping people going. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
She's one of the only people | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
who never ever gets disturbed by the trainers. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
She's such a kind, lovely person | 0:46:03 | 0:46:04 | |
and we really would miss her. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
She's not just one of our clients, she's a good friend, so it would be sad. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
What kind of person is Jevon? | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
Kind. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
And he listens. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
He's my best friend. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
We'll miss all of them, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:22 | |
particularly seeing our grandchildren growing up. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
They're young now, I know, but Australia is thousands of miles away. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
It's a long way away, so we will miss that. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
I've been spending time with them, and I know they'll only ever be a phone call away, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:41 | |
but it's not quite the same as spending time with them as a family. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
It would be difficult. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
OK, you can have webcams and whatever the modern technology is, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:53 | |
but actually being accessible so you can ring them up and say, "Can I pop over?" | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
or, "Would you like to come over?" and feeling them, you know? | 0:46:58 | 0:47:03 | |
Part of me hopes they don't want to go, and part of me thinks it would be lovely if they do. So... | 0:47:03 | 0:47:10 | |
I just want them to be happy. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
Yeah, I shall miss them. A lot. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
I really do miss my nanny and grandad, especially my uncle, | 0:47:23 | 0:47:29 | |
because they are very kind to me. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
I miss my friends and family and... | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
..it made me feel a bit emotional. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
I think the hardest thing for me was watching my mum | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
and kind of feeling the sadness that she would obviously experience | 0:47:49 | 0:47:55 | |
if we were to move away. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
As she says, you can Skype or keep in contact, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:03 | |
but it's not the same as being able to just pop round. That's really sad. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
It's special with my brother because he's there for the weekend every fortnight | 0:48:07 | 0:48:13 | |
and the kids really love him and so do I. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
That's going to be a real difference for us. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
On an emotional level, it's really hard, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
because you're attached to people, your family and your friends, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:28 | |
and it's a big wrench to leave them. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
But, on the other hand, you have got to think of what you're offering your immediate children, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:37 | |
your immediate family, and the lives that they can have and our grandchildren will have. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
Listening to messages from home has left them feeling torn and it's confirmed how big this move would be. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:48 | |
The Mills are still undecided. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
Now, they are coming to the end of their trial week and it has been full of ups and downs. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:56 | |
They've been swept away by the stunning landscape and lifestyle of Byron Bay. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
-They've seen some stunning houses. -Oh, my goodness! This is amazing! | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
-Wow. -Wow. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
But the job prospects are far from encouraging - a lower salary could leave them broke. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:13 | |
-It's a bit close to the line, is it? -It would be difficult to consider the move. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
You're almost scared to look, scared to open up your eyes to the kind of life we could have here. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:23 | |
There's a big question of whether they can afford to move financially and emotionally. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
Will meeting new friends at Lennox Head help them make that final decision? | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
Sally's been on the case as usual and has contacted Carol Piper through a friend back home, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:40 | |
before coming to Australia. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
We've been in e-mail correspondence with them but we've never met them before so, it's like, great. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:48 | |
It'll be nice to put a face to name and really see them in person, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
get to know them a little bit. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:53 | |
The Mills have come to Lennox Beach to meet Carol, husband, Andrew, and their kids for the first time. | 0:49:53 | 0:50:00 | |
The Pipers are both teachers and emigrated from the UK two years ago, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:08 | |
so are perfectly placed to give them the real story about making such a big move. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
So, what are your initial impressions of the whole area and Australia? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
Well, it's beautiful, we're just stunned by the scenery here. It's absolutely gorgeous. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
And the people have been brilliant, people we've never met before, like yourselves. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:27 | |
They've been so generous and so giving with everything. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
It's just been fantastic. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
It's kind of everything I hoped it would be, really, and more, definitely and more. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
Catch! | 0:50:39 | 0:50:40 | |
Has there been anything since you moved out here that you miss? | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
Obviously you miss things about the UK, but things that you feel aren't quite as good over here or...? | 0:50:45 | 0:50:53 | |
I really miss the English countryside. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
We lived in Cornwall before we left, | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
and we walked a lot with the dog in the English countryside. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:04 | |
That's something you can't do here. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
Jem's keen to find out how the Pipers made their decision. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
One of the things we're thinking about doing is trying it for a couple of years | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
and then deciding, once and for all, whether or not to put our roots down here. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:22 | |
I know all you've been here for a couple of years now, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
so I'm wondering what it's like at the two-year mark for you. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
I guess when we left the UK, we didn't want to leave that get-out clause for ourselves. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:33 | |
We felt that, psychologically, we'd always be thinking about returning if we kept one foot in the UK. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:39 | |
So we purposely sold up and we moved out completely. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
And even now, we sometimes think back to the UK | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
and think, "We miss this," or, "We'd like to go and see that." | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
Do you have any regrets at all? | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
No, really, life just gets better because you just get more established, you make friends... | 0:51:51 | 0:51:57 | |
Is it beginning to feel like home? Because Jem and I feel... | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
We think we could move out here and have a beautiful life, a beautiful place to live, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
a great culture, but will it ever feel in our hearts like home? | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
For us, it really feels like home. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
Really? Did it early on? Or did it take a while? | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
Um, no, really pretty much straightaway. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
Because it's such a huge thing, that move from the UK, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
that when you arrive, you've arrived and then you live it. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:30 | |
When you're not working and you're on the beach, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
you just think, "Oh, my goodness, this is lovely - this is the life." | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
But, for sure, it doesn't feel like it's artificial. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
Because it's not - this is all real, isn't it? | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
There's one thing that is always on Jem's mind. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
One of the things we've been looking at, and it's a fairly challenging area for us, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:53 | |
is thinking about work. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:54 | |
It does take time and you need a little bit of luck. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
But you've got to make your own luck and put yourself in the right place to find it. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:03 | |
I think, in some ways, we were hoping that we'd get a tailor-made, ready-to-fit-into job, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:10 | |
to give us that security of coming all the way over from the UK. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:15 | |
It just seems a real challenge | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
to just cross your fingers and hope that it's all going to turn out. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
I believe it, though - you make your own way, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
and if you've got a positive way of approaching things, you'll succeed. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
That's the golden rule, really. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
And Jem and Sally certainly are positive thinkers. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
But will they find the courage to take the plunge? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
This whole week's been a roller coaster. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
On one hand, you can feel very positive about something, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
and on the other hand you can have some doubts | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
and there's the fear associated with such a big decision. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
But then, you have a bit of a talk to yourself and think, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
"There's so much out here for us, what could we possibly lose?" | 0:53:58 | 0:54:05 | |
But there's the security of what you know, what we know in the UK, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:10 | |
the security of having our friends and family around us. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
To just up and leave is quite scary. Yeah. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:19 | |
It's funny - today, about the move, I've been feeling... | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
I've gone through different phases, just today. It's just gone up and down, up and down. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:29 | |
Sally's been the main driving force for this whole process, really. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:36 | |
In a way, it's kind of resting with me a bit. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
That's a bit of pressure, I guess. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
If he votes for England today, that means at this point in time, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
from the information he's had this week, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
that he's not satisfied that we could just drop everything and move to Australia. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
I think that would mean it was still work in progress for me. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
You know, if I decide that it's just a stretch too far, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:07 | |
from the work point of view, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
then what does that mean in terms of the impact on the family and what they want? | 0:55:09 | 0:55:14 | |
So, you know, what's it going to be? | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
It's time for the Mills to make their final decision. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
What will Jem choose for himself and his family? | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
We've had a fantastic time in Australia, we've met some wonderful people, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
and this is the time when we finally vote for whether or not we want to move over here. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:37 | |
And the vote's going to be... | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
ALL: Australia! | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
You voted Australia? | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
It was that last conversation with Andrew, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
where he said that if you're prepared to step back a little bit and network | 0:55:50 | 0:55:57 | |
and really fit into the Australian way of life, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
then this is a country where people with our kind of drive, passion and creativity | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
can really make something of themselves. I just think, what the heck? Give it a go. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
Aw, bless you. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:10 | |
The Mills have been on a real journey of discovery and have made a brave decision. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:18 | |
Let's hope it works out for them. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
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