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Could you uproot your family and leave all your loved ones behind | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
to start a new life thousands of miles away? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
What if it didn't work out? | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
Could you bring yourself to try it again a second time? | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
Well, that's what the Pagnini family is attempting. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
After their dream move to California turned sour, they're determined to give it another try. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:26 | |
-This time for good. -We've done it once before. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
We've upset everybody. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
We've gone. We've come back. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
They have all been relieved that we're back. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
It makes this decision much more difficult. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
It's an issue that could split the family. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Mike's mum isn't happy at all. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
I told them that time and this time, you're not going. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
If they really liked it, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
I wouldn't be happy. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
If they make the move, will they be ever able to afford to come home? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
If I move over here, I ain't going back to England unless it's a necessary thing. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:00 | |
-Not to visit? -No. -Why? | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
It's going to be hard. It'll be very expensive with five children. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
-All right, all right. -By the end of the week, there will be a lot of soul searching. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
I feel guilty about upsetting my family like that. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
The whole emotion they're going through at the moment is all down to us. It's all our fault. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
Make up your mind very quick, Michael and Clare, and come back to me. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
Australia is still the most popular country of residence for Brits moving abroad, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
but although they may be tempted by the sun, sea and sand, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
almost a third return home every year. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
The Pagninis may think they want to move down under, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
but have they thought it through? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
We've given them a week to see what life | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
in Australia would really be like before they make one of the most important decisions of their lives. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
The Pagninis currently live in the village of Timperley on the outskirts of Manchester. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:20 | |
Painter and decorator Mike shares a home with Clare and their three children, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
eight-year-old Dylan and daughters Ashley, four, and Beth who's three. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
The family have had a taste of living abroad before when Mike's dad | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
who lives in California asked them to join him. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
It was about six years ago now, wasn't it? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
We moved to America and absolutely loved our life. It was fantastic, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
-the house was amazing. -With a pool. -With a pool and four bedrooms. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:47 | |
Then we realised the cost of living, we hadn't really looked into | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
and we found it really difficult to live in a country where | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
if your children were ill, you had to think, "Can I afford to take them to the doctor?" | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
They chose to return home. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
We were so excited to come home because we'd not seen everyone | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
for two years and so we were like "Yes, we're going home. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
"We're going to see everyone." | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
-"Kebabs!" -And we came back, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
we realised we'd made a bit of a mistake. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
-Yeah, within the first ten minutes I think it was. -Ten minutes! | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
The three-bedroom terrace they rent in Greater Manchester is a far cry | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
from the spacious family home and pool they had in California. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
They're desperate to be able to afford the sunny outdoor life again. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
-This is probably the last shot now. -This is the last shot. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
We know we want that kind of lifestyle. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
We're going to Australia to find it. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Mike is dying to follow his dreams. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
I want to make it work one million per cent and I'll do anything to make it work. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
I would up and leave and go tomorrow basically, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
but my wife being the sensible one won't allow us to do that. | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
With strong ties at home, Clare has serious reservations about going. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
For me, it's going to be really difficult to leave my family behind. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
I think that's probably | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
the most important thing to me. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
It'll be difficult to, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
I suppose, feel so segregated from everything that's going on and I know from living abroad before | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
that whenever there's a family do, if there's a wedding or a christening or a birthday, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
you feel totally left out. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
My sister and my mum are my best friends and leaving them would be really difficult. Very difficult. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:37 | |
So the stakes are high for the Pagninis | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
as they face a potentially life-changing upheaval yet again. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:46 | |
But where in Australia should they go? | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
It would be Mike's occupation that would potentially get them | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
into Australia and fortunately, as a painter and decorator, his skills are needed across the country. | 0:04:53 | 0:05:00 | |
They could go to Adelaide in South Australia. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
This planned open city is about half the size of London with just one eighth of its population | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
offering the Pagninis that relaxed, urban lifestyle they're looking for. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:14 | |
And with the average house price at over £100,000 lower than Sydney's, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
it's a cheap place like for a family like the Pagninis to get started. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
But wages are lower here too so Mike and Clare might have to work longer hours to make ends meet. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:31 | |
Perhaps further east, the city of Melbourne is more appropriate as | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
family incomes here are higher than the national average. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Victoria's capital is the number one destination for sport and culture | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
and could be perfect for an outgoing family like the Pagninis, but it does come at a cost. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:51 | |
The property market has soared in recent years | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
with the average house price one of the highest in the country. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
So Clare's dream of a massive home with a pool could be out of reach. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
And with a population of four million, could it just be too big for the Pagninis' first step? | 0:06:01 | 0:06:07 | |
Maybe they'd prefer a smaller city such as Perth in Western Australia | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
where again there's plenty to do for a growing family. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
Property-wise, it's not a great deal cheaper than Melbourne, but as | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Australia's fastest-growing city, it should offer plenty of work for Mike if he can handle the competition. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:28 | |
One in eight residents here are British-born | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
so the Pagninis should feel at home while they find their feet. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
Three good options for the family there, each with its benefits so where shall we send them? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:46 | |
We decided to send the Pagninis to experience life in Melbourne for their week in Australia. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:53 | |
With income playing such a crucial role for them, it's vital they go somewhere Mike can earn more. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:59 | |
Whilst it's not the cheapest city for housing, there are less expensive areas | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
in its growing suburbs, but can they really afford their Australian dream financially and emotionally? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:09 | |
I'd be brokenhearted if they went to Australia. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
It's hard. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
That's it. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
I don't want to be going back to England after two years. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
-It's too expensive. -For him to just take it away like that | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
makes me feel worse. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
I should have been a bit more sympathetic, I think. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
I'm feeling quite nervous at the moment. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I don't know whether we'll all vote the same. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I really need to think about whether I can leave my family again | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
and put them through all of that heartache again. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
After 23 hours of flying, the family's potentially life-changing trip begins in Melbourne. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
Having crossed three continents spanning 10,500 miles, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
the reality of making such a long journey becomes clear. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Not being able to stretch your legs. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Not being able to move for so long. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
That's the worst. And the kids having to be sat still is just a nightmare. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
-The journey, it's the main factor in all of it. -Yeah. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
With it being halfway across the world, it's not that easy just to whizz home, is it? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
No. Clare is already feeling the pressure. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Concerned about hating it. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
-Yeah. -I'm concerned about the journey home. -Yeah. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Concerned about Mike hating his job. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Concerned about it being way out of our price range and not being an | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
option for us, that's probably the worst thing that could happen. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
-Well, let's see, let's hope it blows our mind, eh? -Yeah. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Mike knows he's got his work cut out if he's to convince Clare Australia is right for them. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:43 | |
Everything rides on what she thinks of where they're staying. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
This is the type of house they could afford IF they were to make the move. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:52 | |
I'll shut this boot because I don't know what neighbourhood is like, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
but I know it's very warm. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Very warm indeed. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
In a house without air conditioning, Mike's using his head to keep cool. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
You'll get a lot of people who do this - stick their head in the freezer. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
Look, this is the main bedroom. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
-Yeah, that's all right. -Yeah, nice, but there's no bath. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-Where's the bath? -There isn't a bath. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
I've got to have a bath. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
-No, there's no bath. -Right. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
We need to get a Jacuzzi then, don't we? | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
We'll have to get a Jacuzzi. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
I think we could get a better house than this. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
Maybe the garden will make amends. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
It's a really small garden. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
There's no grass. I don't like it. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
Clare has dreamed of a large garden and a pool. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
So far Australia isn't living up to her expectations. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
I'm quite disappointed really. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
I expected it to just look like California. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
-Yeah. -So I expected it to be highways with lovely scenery either side and got myself | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
so hyped up about everything and I saw quite a lot of factories and graffiti and things like that. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
-It will be like that. -It makes me feel a bit gutted really. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
I'm just a bit deflated now. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
-It's early days. -I know. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Well, I'm the pessimist, you're the optimist, so we'll see. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Maybe you can woo me. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
I've already done that. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Mike will have to do a lot more than a bit of wooing if he's | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
to persuade Clare to leave England and her family behind again. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
Back in the UK, the Pagninis rent a three-bedroomed terraced house | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
in Timperley, a village on the outskirts of Manchester. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
If they decide to move, the family will have a budget of £200,000 with a mortgage. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
But will it be enough to get that big Aussie pad and pool that Clare is dying for? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
The Pagninis' life-changing decision hinges on finances. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
And when it comes to buying a home, Melbourne offers a variety | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
of lifestyle options, some more expensive than others. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
They could live in the city | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
and enjoy being in the midst of all the hustle and bustle. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Affluent central town houses can hit the 1 million mark, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:20 | |
and although you're unlikely to get a pool, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
residents do benefit from having no commute to work. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
This type of place would be unaffordable for the family | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
even if they got a massive mortgage so they'd be better off looking for somewhere out of town. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
The coast is popular with many young families | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
and although Mike may face a long commute to work, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Clare and the children would love lapping up the sunshine. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Homes right on the beach can go for over 1 million. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
A short drive away, this four-bedroomed property in the trendy seaside suburb of Mordialloc | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
costs £325,000 and is at the cheaper end of the market. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:58 | |
Prices here have soared over recent years | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
with the influx of a young, wealthy generation | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
so the Pagninis would need to look further inland to accommodate their needs. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
A more realistic option would be the up-and-coming rural suburb | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
of Werribee where the family are staying for their trial week. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Despite its fast, direct links to the city, the area has retained its traditional country charm. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
Top-of-the-range properties | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
like this four-bedroomed, two-bathroom Chelsea design would cost around £250,000. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:28 | |
But there are plenty of houses here within the family's budget including build-your-own homes | 0:12:28 | 0:12:34 | |
and with so many new developments it could be an easy place for Mike to find work as a painter. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
We're going to show the Pagninis a range of properties in this area, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
but before we do, let's just check they've settled in OK. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
Oh, no. What's happened? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Dylan was taking a shower and slipped and hit his head on the soap dish and he's had to have four stitches. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:58 | |
We had to ring an ambulance because we didn't know what to do. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
My poor baby. He frightened us to death, didn't you? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Typical of the Pagninis. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
With Dylan all bandaged, they're finally ready to visit the three properties we've lined up for them. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:14 | |
The whole move rests on whether they can find a home they love within their price range. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
So will property number one be up to | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
their high standards? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Priced at around £200,000, it's just within budget. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
After Clare's disappointment with their temporary accommodation, it's vital she likes this one. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
Fingers crossed. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Is this the master bedroom then? I like it. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
There's a snooker table. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
This house is massive. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
It's gorgeous. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Clare's loving it and the swimming pool has topped it off. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
But Mike's keeping very quiet. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
-How brilliant is that? -I feel like jumping in. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
I really like this house. Yeah, I do. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
There's the barbecue area and then there's the swimming area. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
I think it's perfect, what do you think, Mike? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
-No. -You don't like it? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
It's a bit too compact. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
It's too small. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
-The garden? -Yeah, it's too small. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
I want a big open plan. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
That's safe if it's locked so the kids can't get to the pool without us knowing. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
I know, but I'd like a big, open-plan so I could sit there and just watch the children play. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
This way they can be running around the corner. I want to be able to see them all. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
-OK. -I just want it structured. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Pool and swings and things like that. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
-No, I don't like it. -'Oh, poor Clare.' | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
Just think, we could go to sleep on here. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Right, Dylan, come on, we all need to be out of this area now, Mike. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
Just when she'd opened her eyes to what Australia could offer the family, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
Mike has demolished her hopes. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
If they can't see eye-to-eye, this move will never work. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
Perhaps they'll have better luck with the next one. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
Property two is a three bedroom show home | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
situated in a newer development on the outskirts of Werribee. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
It's an example of a design-your-own property | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
which should give the family an idea of what they could achieve | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
for around their £200,000 budget. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
-Do you want to have a look around? -Oh, my Lord. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Jacka-knacker-nory. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Chicken cacciatore! | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
-That's really nice. -Yeah. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Well, we'll take this one. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
Oh, my... | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
That is gorgeous. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Let's see. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
-It's good. -And this is all standard. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Nice, that. Just think of all the microwave meals we could make in here. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
Plenty of space for takeaways to just lay it all out. We're sorted. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
And you're supposed to be the chef. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
Well, you know. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
There's a cookbook, we can use that. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
I hope Mike will be using that cookbook, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
but at least they're singing from the same hymn sheet at last. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
I'd love a house just like this and to think as well that you'll buy | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
the piece of land and then you'll basically design the whole house. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
So you've built your own house. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
There are different types of houses. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
-Yeah. -There are about eight styles of houses. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
-So you pick your style and plot of land, pick the type of house. -I think it's in here. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
Clare can't wait to check out where they'd be sleeping. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
-This is the master bedroom. -It's nice in here. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
-Lovely. -This is the Zohan room, but less with the Zohan. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Hey, look at the size of the wardrobe. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Outside, Clare is quick to notice what's missing. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
I bet you could fit a pool across there anyway, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
but you could always buy a bigger plot as well, couldn't you? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
Er, wait a second, this size plot is at the top of their budget - building a pool doesn't come cheap. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
Maybe fit a small pool there. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-You've got to be kidding! -You wouldn't have much space. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
Get the ones you blow up. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
They do seem to be getting a little ahead of themselves. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
What you could do, if you had this plot of land, you could change your bedroom around so that the doors | 0:17:03 | 0:17:09 | |
open out to here and have that as your seating area and then you've got all of this space for a pool. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
-All us English are bothered about is having a pool, I think. -I know. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Finally, the Pagninis are in agreement, but they're just not thinking about the cost. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
However, if Clare was to get a full-time job, they could push up their budget. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
With this in mind, they move on to property number three, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
priced at £230,000, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:32 | |
it's a little more ambitious, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
but it does have the four bedrooms the Pagninis are really after. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
There's another area here. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
That's great, isn't it? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
-Brilliant, because this is a lovely space. -Look at that plasma. -Another one! | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
There maybe more space than the family are used to, but with Clare working full-time, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
they'll need to factor in the cost of childcare and try to keep their feet firmly on the ground. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
Oh, look at this. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
-Shabba. -Oh, it is really... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
This is definitely perfect. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
Look at the size of the wardrobe, Mike. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
We could put me Mum and Dad in there as a spare bedroom when they come to visit, it's that big. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-If you say so, Clare! -It's gorgeous, isn't it? Beautiful size. -It is really nice. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
Absolutely lovely. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
As this home is out of their budget, surely they're thinking more practically now. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
So we'd have the pool sectioned off. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
-Oh, dear. -It looks pretty spacious for a pool. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
Yeah, we could get a slightly bigger plot of land than this so | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-we could have the pool as well as some extra space... -Anything else? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
And then a grass area, wouldn't we? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
We'd just have a nice grass area for the kids to play. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
I don't think you'd get any grass areas. You just get your pool. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
Surely there are more pressing concerns, finances perhaps? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Yeah, we'd get grass. We'd have grass all there. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
And we could have grass there. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
-You can't water grass over here so you'd have to have astro-turf. -Oh, no. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-You're not allowed to water your grass. -We'll have brown grass. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
-At least they don't think the grass is always greener. -It's nice, that house, isn't it? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
-No, I like the other house the bestest. -Do you? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
Joking aside, they desperately need to see whether the figures add up. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
Although they liked the homes overall, can they really raise the money to afford their dream place? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
I really like the third house, but in order to be able to afford that, I'd have to work, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
maybe full-time, we'd have to really look at the pros and the cons. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
So, my main concern now is that the income that we'd be entitled to will be | 0:19:25 | 0:19:32 | |
a lot less than I'm expecting. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
We need to really look at what we'd earn compared to what we'd have to pay out. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
Clare's sobering up to the massive financial risk that comes with a move | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
-and as it's obvious where Mike would rather be... -Down under! | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
..she's starting to realise the outcome rests heavily upon her shoulders. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
I think Mike is more than happy to move over here, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
so the pressure is going to be solely on me to decide yes or no | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
because I think Mike will just come. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
He's just happy to come, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
so it's going to be down to me and the family are constantly on my mind. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
At the moment, I just feel like it's cross that bridge when I come to it, I think. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
Yeah, it's hard. Very hard. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
It will take much more than a walk-in wardrobe and swimming pool | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
for Clare to leave her family behind. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
For now though, they only have to decide if they prefer houses in the UK or Australia. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:27 | |
This is our first taste of properties in Australia | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
and compared to the properties in the UK, we're going to vote for... | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
Australia. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
The Pagninis may prefer Aussie houses, but will they be able to afford the home of their dreams? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:51 | |
That's a lot. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
And will Mike really convince Clare to leave her family and friends in the UK? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
I've got a very good relationship with Clare. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
She's my eldest. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
And we go everywhere together. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
The Pagninis have a dream of a great home and lifestyle down under, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
but none of this could be possible | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
unless Mike is sure he can get well-paid work. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Back in the UK, Mike takes home up to £30,000 a year as a self-employed painter and decorator. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:33 | |
At the moment, I work part-time and I'd really rather be at home with the kids. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:39 | |
If we were to get over there and find that there wasn't any work | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
or the pay was really poor, that would be disaster. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
-Basically, we can't survive. -Yeah. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Down under, Mike is off to see if he can bring home the bacon. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
With Clare desperate not to work in Australia, he's under added pressure to make ends meet. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
I'm a little bit apprehensive about going to work today, it's a labour of love, I guess. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:03 | |
When it comes to salary and wages, I just want a competitive rate. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
Mike's here to meet local painter and decorator Bruce James who could be a useful contact. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
-All right, Mike, if you want to start this wall here. -Yep. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Around up to the doorway and we'll see how good a job you do, mate. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
OK. Being a professional painter, I'll show you how fast I can do it. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
That looks pretty good, mate. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
We'll leave that at that and you can come and roll some doors in the bedroom if you'd like. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
OK, great. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
In the UK, Mike is self-employed. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Moving to Australia would mean he'd have to start from the bottom again working for someone else. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
Basically, it's up to myself to meet people, get myself known, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
the wages might be a little bit less than I'm on at the moment, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
so, yeah, that's a little bit daunting. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Meanwhile, the rest of the family are checking out Werribee town centre. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
It's vital Clare likes it as it's the type of area they could afford to live in. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
It's a real village feel to it. I feel like we're probably a bit out in the country around here, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:11 | |
so it's like the village shops. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
I think I'd really prefer somewhere maybe a little bit modern. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
I'd like to have a big mall nearby and I don't think there's anything like that around here. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
I think this is the town centre and that's it. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
To afford somewhere more upmarket, Clare would definitely have to work. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
I suppose it was a pipe dream to think that Mike would earn enough | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
for me to be able to stay at home and we have this great lifestyle. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
In all honestly, that's probably not possible at all. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
But there's help on hand. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
In the UK, Clare is a part-time office manager so she's got a meeting with Linda Weldon, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
a local recruitment adviser to find out more about opportunities down under. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
Is there plenty of work out there for that type of role? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
There is work out there and it's growing. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
We're finding an increase in needs coming from employers. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
Looking at salaries again depending on the range of the responsibilities, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
you're looking at anywhere from 35,000 | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
up to 60 plus if you wanted to, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
it just depends on size of office, responsibilities within that office. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
If that is possible, then I'm quite pleased about that. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
The fact that there is a job out there for me | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
-makes it a lot better for me. -OK, excellent. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
That's good news for Clare, but it's Mike's job that really counts. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
Working for someone else would mean being paid per square metre painted | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
so he'd have to put in a lot more hours than he's used to. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
What's the average wage for a painter decorator? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-They'd probably be averaging maybe 700 bucks a week. -All right. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
You've got to go really hard if you want to make some good money. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
It's a devastating blow. Mike would be on nearly half his UK wage. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
So can you borrow us a tenner please? | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
You'll need a lot more than that. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Basically if I had work and my wife had work, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
I'm pretty sure we could afford our mortgage and get on. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
But Clare wants a four bedroom house with a pool. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
They'll never be able to pay for that. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Mike's so desperate to make the move, he's just not facing up to reality. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
It's time to vote for work. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
It's been an eventful day. I've enjoyed it. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
I think when it comes to working over here, Australia gets my vote and now I'm off for a cold one. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:24 | |
See you later. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Mike just won't accept the consequences of a lower salary. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
But perhaps the reality will hit home when he sees how much it actually costs to live in Australia. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:41 | |
We've prepared a breakdown of their UK and Australian expenses | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
so the Pagninis can weigh up whether they can actually afford to live here. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
Phone and internet, 65. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Council tax, 100. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
There's the shopping list, that's what I'm interested to see. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Potatoes, £1.98 in the UK and it's £3.79 here. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
Shh, don't say anything. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
That's a lot. Look at the six pint milk, £2.25 and that's what in Australia? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:14 | |
£8.53 for six pints of milk. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
-That is a lot. -And we use a lot of milk. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
We do. That is a lot, I'm quite shocked at that. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
If the groceries are giving them a headache, what are they going to do about Mike's salary? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
You'd earn £26,000. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
And you're earning, but that's self-employed and this is employed. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Just put £30,000. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
No, that's what it says there. £26,000, but I would earn way more so that makes up for it anyway, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
but you see I work part-time there and that would be full-time work. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
That means Mike is no longer the main breadwinner. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
He doesn't like it. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
I'm really pleased about that. Everything seems to be going well. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Yay! | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
With both of them working full-time, not only would they have to pay for childcare, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
but their dream of a better work-life balance is over. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
So will this affect their vote? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
For the cost of living comparisons between Australia and the UK, we vote for... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
-Australia. -England. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Why are you voting for England? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Because I think I'd earn a lot more money in England | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
and the prices of food over here's a lot more. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
But I earn more here so that's why I voted for Australia. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
-Well, I thought I'd earn more money in England, that's why I voted for England. -OK. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:41 | |
The prospect of Clare having to work full-time has finally made | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
Mike think practically about how much this move would actually cost. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
But he's a man of many talents and won't give up without a fight. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
Back in the UK, Mike used to be in a band, | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
but for now, he's restricted to jamming in the living room. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
I used to play guitar every single day and I never put the guitar down. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
Basically, two more children came along which was goodbye, career. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
Obviously In Australia, we might get a little bit more time to do things we want to do. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:17 | |
Mike is convinced he can start performing again to boost the family income. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
He's been offered a trial with a local band, but as Melbourne | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
is the music capital of Australia, they won't be taking on any amateurs. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
I'm actually very excited to meet Mike and see what kind of musician he's like. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:36 | |
The crowds have gathered and eagerly await their surprise guest. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Mike's preparing to sing. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
He's a slightly little bit nervous at the moment. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
A little bit apprehensive playing in front of 300 Aussies. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
It's been a while since I've played and sang. It'll go down like a lead balloon. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:54 | |
Having not performed for over 20 years this could be a disaster. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
Hello, Australia. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
As I say, I'm contemplating on moving with my wife and family | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
over here to this great country and whilst I've been on my journey, I've penned a small song. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:11 | |
So hopefully you might like it. Thank you. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
HE PLAYS AND STOPS | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Sorry, me guitar strap's broke! | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
I will have a stool, though. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
-Sorry about that. -I'll get you a stool. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
# I fell in love | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
# A place called Australia | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
# I fell in love | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
# Well, then my wife did, too | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
# It never rains | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
# Your sun is always shining | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
# Here's a song | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
# It's for the kangaroo | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
# I left my heart | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
# It was in the north of England... # | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
It looks like he's a hit. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
Nice one, mate. Cheers. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
Thank you for listening. It's a great experience. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
A great experience indeed. They were a really nice band. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
They mentioned if I was ever in the area, to go and give them a call, look them up. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
Mike has made some good local contacts, but music and money aside, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Clare's got other things on her mind. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
It's so far away from home and leaving all of our family behind, that is the worst thing | 0:30:37 | 0:30:45 | |
-so I don't even want to think about that. -Yeah. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Having moved abroad before, the Pagninis are all too aware | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
of the emotional heartache of being separated from loved ones. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
For Clare, this move rests on whether she can bring herself | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
to leave them behind for the second time. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
We've gone. We've come back. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
They have all been relieved that we're back and now we're going to do it to them all over again. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:14 | |
So it makes this decision much more difficult | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
and it makes this move more important because we are now | 0:31:18 | 0:31:24 | |
sort of responsible for everyone else as well. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
We have to make sure that... | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
if we do this to them again, it's going to be for good. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
We've prepared some messages from friends and family back in the UK. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
Hello, Clare and Michael. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
Dylan, Ashley and Beth. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Hope you're having a lovely time. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
We're really missing you and we can't wait for you to get back home. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
Clare is... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Mike's lifeline. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
There was nobody in the world who could have stuck with Michael | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
with his personality and him being so wild. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
He had to have somebody, like Clare, who was very grounded. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
Fantastic person. Always been there for all of us. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
She rings me at least 12 times a day. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
The phone goes all the time. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
We don't have to look, we know it's Clare that's ringing. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
I've got a very good relationship with Clare. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
She's my eldest. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
And we go everywhere together. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
Michael is a good son. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
Very caring. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
I've been on my own a long, long time | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
and I do see him quite a lot really and this is the thing. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
If they go to Australia and they really like it, it's me that's going to be... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:55 | |
left, you know what I mean? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
I'd be brokenhearted if they went to Australia. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
It's hard. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
That's it. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
When she said they were thinking about going to Australia, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
I was gutted as I say, you know, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
when they went to California, we missed them terribly and when they said | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
they were coming back, we were over the moon and now she's thinking about maybe going away again | 0:33:16 | 0:33:23 | |
and it's just bringing it all back how to keep in contact with her | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
and missing the kids growing up and her missing my kids growing up. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
I told them that time and this time, "you're not going", but they took no notice of me. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:37 | |
And then the children come up, "We're going to Australia, Nana". I said no, you're not. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
They said, "Yeah, we're going to Australia, Nana." I said, "Are you? | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
-"Well, what about me?" -They would leave a big gap if they decided to go to Australia, yeah. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
A big gap, as Clare's my only sister. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
My life would be horrible. I love seeing the children. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
I love to see them grow up and I'd miss Michael and Clare because they do look after me in lots of ways. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
If, when they got there, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
in Australia, and they really liked it, I'd like for them to stay. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
I wouldn't be happy, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
but I'd like them to stay if that's what they wanted. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
I know it's selfish, but I do love you with all my heart, especially the children | 0:34:23 | 0:34:28 | |
so make up your mind very quick, Michael and Clare, and come back to me. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
I love you. Bye. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
I hope you've enjoyed doing everything that you wanted to do... | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
..and... | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
I don't know what your decision will be, but whatever you choose to do, it's fine by me. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:51 | |
It's not. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Have a lovely time and... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
hope to see you soon. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
We'll be coming to see you. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
OK, my darlings? | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Bye. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:05 | |
I'd never live in Australia without my family. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
-I think you'd enjoy it, son. -No. -You would. -No. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
I feel guilty that | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
they're all sat there upset and... | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
that whole feeling | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
and the whole emotion that they're going through at the moment is all down to us. It's all our fault. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:32 | |
So, yeah, I feel guilty about that. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
If I move over here, I ain't going back to England unless it's a necessary thing. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:41 | |
-Not to visit. -No. -Why? -No point. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
What do you mean there's no point? | 0:35:45 | 0:35:46 | |
Because we've lived there all my life. It's too expensive. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
The journey, you know what the journey's like. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Yeah, but we've got family there, Mike. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
If you feel like you want to keep going back to England every... | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
two years, you know, it's just going to cost us fortunes, isn't it? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
Yes, but when we lived in America, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
we needed to come back to get rid of that homesickness feeling to be able to carry on. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
It would have to be a joint decision anyway, but mine personally, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
I don't want to be going back to England after two years. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
-It's going to be hard, it'll be very expensive with five children. -OK, all right, all right. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
-I'm not putting a dampener on it for you, am I? -Yeah, you are. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Whether we came back to visit after the first year or two or not, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
the fact that I think I'd be able to makes me feel better. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
For him to just take it away like that | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
makes me feel worse. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:36 | |
-Did that upset you, me saying that? -Yeah. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
I'm just showing you reality. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
I don't know now. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
It might seem cruel, but flights visiting home for a family of five aren't cheap. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
-You don't want to move to Australia then? -No. -No? | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
If Mike and Clare can't see eye to eye on this, they won't be able to make the move. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:59 | |
What upset Clare was, well, obviously seeing her mother. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Her mother was crying and Clare was crying | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
and she'd miss her mother and her father and her sister and brother and you know, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:13 | |
and I should've been a bit more sympathetic, I think, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
and saying when I was trying to be a bit more pragmatic, I think I should've... | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
just gone along and said yeah, you can fly home any time you want, but I think after... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:29 | |
a year, she'd just get used to it but I just let her think what she wants to think. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
Seeing messages from loved ones has made the Pagninis confront the harsh reality | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
that they may never be able to afford to return home. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
Mike has one last shot at convincing Clare the sacrifice is worth it. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:53 | |
-Whoo! -Australia's Torquay Beach is a hotspot for surfing, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
but it's also safe and protected for young families. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
I think if we were to move over to Australia, we'd want to live | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
within 30 minutes' drive of a place like this, definitely. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Dylan gets straight in there and makes new friends. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
So here's what you've got to do, when you're out on the waves, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
when the wave's coming in | 0:38:14 | 0:38:15 | |
and before it starts to curl up, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
turn around and then you just push off and sail. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
If you get caught in a rip, make sure you swim parallel to the beach and keep up with it. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
-I'm a little bit nervous. -I'll look after you. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
You know Dylan would be... | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Oh, he'd be in his element living here, he really would. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
I don't think he realises how much he would love it. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Dylan's like a professional already, for his first time. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
-He caught the best waves. -It's the best thing I've ever done. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
I just feel like going back into the sea and doing it over and over and over and over again. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
For Mike, his experiences in Australia have opened new horizons. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
It's just something out this world. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
It's quite surreal, actually. It's a beautiful place. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
I think it's hit home, this could be a reality of life for us and, yeah, it's emotional. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
But will the rest of the family agree? It's time to vote. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
We've had a fantastic day at the beach today | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
and for the Oz lifestyle and the British lifestyle we're going to vote for... | 0:39:14 | 0:39:21 | |
-Australia. -Australia! | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Clare may have voted for the Australian lifestyle, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
but is a beach really going to be enough to persuade her to leave her family behind | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
and possibly never see them again? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
It's nearly time for the final vote. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
The Pagnini family have emigrated before to California, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
but when it got too expensive, they returned to the UK, only to get itchy feet again. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
-This is probably the last shot now. -This is. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
-Yeah. -We know we want that kind of lifestyle. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
We're going to Australia to find it. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
Yet when they touched down in Australia, things were far from rosy for Clare. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
After being here for about an hour, I felt like we'd made a mistake. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
It was too far away. Why were we even doing this to ourselves? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
The journey is so horrific and it takes such a toll on you | 0:40:11 | 0:40:17 | |
that it just made me feel like I was just wasting my time. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
And when they discovered Mike's salary would be nearly halved down under, not only was their dream home | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
out of reach, but they had to face up to the prospect of never having the funds to return to the UK. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:32 | |
Personally, I don't want to be going back to England after two years, it's too expensive. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
For him to just take it away like that | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
makes me feel worse. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Clare's family back home means everything to her. Can she really say goodbye to them forever? | 0:40:42 | 0:40:48 | |
Watching the DVDs is very upsetting. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
It's not nice to see your family members upset and to know | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
that it's your fault, that they're upset, makes it even worse. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
If anything, you just want your whole family to come with you and enjoy and see all this. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:06 | |
This is a massive decision for me and Mike, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
but I think Mike's mind may already be made up so I think the pressure's on me to... | 0:41:10 | 0:41:16 | |
make the same decision as him! | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
After watching the videos today, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
there could be a possible chance that she could vote back for England, yeah. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
I'm feeling quite nervous at the moment. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
I don't know whether we're all going to vote the same. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
I've loved my time in Australia, but I think I really need to think about whether I can leave my family again | 0:41:33 | 0:41:39 | |
and put them through all of that heartache again so it's going to be a difficult decision for me, I think. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:45 | |
The whole family's future now rests heavily on Clare's shoulders. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
It's time for the final vote. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
What will she decide? | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
Well, it's the end of a beautiful week in Australia. We've had a really good time. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
We've all enjoyed ourselves, but it's time to vote now and we're going to vote for... | 0:42:00 | 0:42:07 | |
-Australia! -Australia! | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
Clare has decided to go for it. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
The kids have loved it. Me and Mike have loved it. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
This decision is ours. It's about OUR lives. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
It's going to be what's best for me, Mike and the kids. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
But Dylan's going to take a little more persuading. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
I want to stay in England because, well, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
I'll miss my family for a long time and I'll miss all my friends, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
but I'm pretty sure I'll have a lot fun in Australia and I can't wait to go in the sea again. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:37 | |
Whoo! | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
I know what once we got him here, he'd be glad that we made that decision. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
I mean, look at him. He absolutely loves it. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
The Pagninis' journey has shown the financial, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
as well as emotional cost of moving to the other side of the world. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
Clare has made a brave decision for her family's future. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
Let's hope it works out for them. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
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