Cook Family Wanted Down Under


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It's a huge risk to move your family

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to the other side of the world in search of a better life

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for your children, especially when none of them actually want to go.

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The Cook family are divided about the benefits

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of a new life in Australia.

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Jai is desperate to move, but her family just don't share her dream.

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I think if we don't do it over the next couple of years,

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our time will have passed and I will regret it every day.

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Jai's husband, Murray, is unsure.

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Going into the unknown is quite scary. It's a big financial worry.

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But the children are sure. They don't want to leave their friends

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and life in the UK, so will Australia win them round...

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How many would like to come and live in Australia?

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-Not me!

-..or will the emotional pull of home prove too strong?

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Leaving Dad and stuff and people like that.

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It would break my heart if they went to Australia, it really would.

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Australia's sunny climate and miles of beautiful coastline

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has long been a draw for people looking for a new life abroad.

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On average, almost 100 Brits emigrate to Australia every day,

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but it doesn't always live up to their expectations

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and roughly a third return home, but it doesn't stop people trying.

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The Cooks may think Australia will give them the family life

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they so desperately crave, but have they thought it through?

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We're giving them a week to try out life Down Under

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before they have to make the biggest decision of their lives.

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Meet the Cook family. 36-year-old Murray,

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his wife Jai, who's 38, their son Alfie who's 7,

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and Jai's older daughters, 12-year-old Libby,

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and Ellie who's 11.

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They live in the village of Ashton Keynes in Wiltshire,

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an area where Murray has lived all his life.

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Murray is a plasterer with a successful business in the area

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and whilst it's his job that will help them get their visa,

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it's Jai's dream to move Down Under,

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and she knows she's got her work cut out to persuade the family.

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I'm definitely the driving force behind this idea.

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It's something that I've always wanted to do and DO want to do,

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and I think now is the right time in our life to do it.

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It's just basically getting everybody else on board with the idea.

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It's the desire for a better family life for the children

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that's driving the plans for the move.

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We're actually doing all of this for the children's benefit,

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so that we can give them the things that we want to give them

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but can't at the moment,

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and they can't actually see the advantage of that.

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-Maybe they don't want to spend more time with us.

-Possibly!

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That might actually be... We hadn't considered that!

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For Libby and Ellie,

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it will mean saying goodbye to their father Richard.

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I would find it hard to leave my dad but I wouldn't just miss him,

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I'd miss the rest of my family.

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It's a huge emotional decision.

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Leaving Dad and stuff and people like that.

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For football-mad Alfie, the decision is simpler.

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If I could take my team then I would want to go

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because I could play football more often.

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And Libby's got one equally impossible condition.

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To get the biggest suitcase and just fit all my friends and family in

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and bring them along with me.

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Jai not only has to convince her children,

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Murray has serious reservations as well.

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Everybody I know is around this area, basically friends and family.

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It would be very hard on both my parents but more so my mum.

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It'll be different that they're not just down the road

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and I can't just pop and see them.

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Murray understands just how risky the move could be.

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I know what I have here and I know the stability of the work here.

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Going into the unknown is quite scary. It's a big financial worry.

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I think he finds the risks very daunting.

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He fears he won't be able to support the family

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whereas if it was just he and I, I don't think it would be a concern.

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It's an emotionally charged decision for the whole family,

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which seems destined to leave someone broken hearted.

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If we don't do it over the next couple of years

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I'll be devastated and I will regret it every day.

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So everything is at stake for the Cooks

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as they face this life-changing decision.

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But where in Australia should they go?

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We could send them to Adelaide in South Australia.

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This coastal city could be the perfect place for the Cooks

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to find their dream home as it offers more affordable property

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than other Australian cities.

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But wages are much lower, meaning Murray might struggle

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to match his UK income.

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On the upside, with 10% of the population UK-born,

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the Cooks would feel at home.

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Perhaps a smaller city like Ipswich in Queensland

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is more appropriate for a family used to village life.

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With a population of 160,000,

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Ipswich has good schools for the children

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and Brisbane is only 25 miles away, giving plenty of work options for Murray.

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And with new estates popping up all over, the Cooks should be able

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to find a house they like.

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Maybe a bigger city like Darwin

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in the Northern Territory would be better.

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It's one of Australia's fastest-growing cities

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so Murray shouldn't have a problem getting work.

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With plenty of beaches, parks and gardens,

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it could be a perfect place for the children.

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But on the downside, with the average house price of £357,000,

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the Cooks may struggle to find their ideal home.

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So where are we going to send them?

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We decided to send them to Ipswich, a city just west of Brisbane.

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The whole move will hinge on the kind of lifestyle

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they can afford, so will they find their dream home?

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I do like this property a great deal.

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I'm not sold on it at the moment,

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There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight properties

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Eight properties just in your own garden. That's a heck of a lot.

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And for Murray, his job is crucial.

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Today is going to be a make or break day, I say.

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How easy is it to pick up work around here?

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It has been a bit of a quiet period lately.

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But nothing compares to the emotional upheaval

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of leaving loved ones behind.

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Going for good is quite difficult.

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It would break my heart if they went to Australia, it really would.

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They have a soul-searching week ahead.

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Based on what we have seen, we're going to vote for...

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That was a bit of a shock... and it was!

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After 22 hours, three flights, and nearly 11,000 miles,

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the Cooks finally land at Brisbane airport.

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The gruelling flight hasn't dented Jai's enthusiasm.

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I'm quite excited, I'm looking forward to getting my teeth into

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looking at the local area and having a look round to see what's on offer.

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But Murray is less sure.

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I'm a bit nervous. Certainly seeing about the work coming up

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and the difference of what it's going to be for me.

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Yeah, a bit nervous.

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-I want to go to the beach.

-There you go!

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Jai is sold on Australia straight away and tries to persuade

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the children before they've left the airport.

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It's sunny and warm and you just think

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this is the reason people emigrate, because of the weather.

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Wouldn't you like this kind of weather all the time?

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No, I like the sun

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but I'd get bored with it just being like this all the time.

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Home for the Cooks during their week is in the Ipswich suburb of Silkstone.

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The journey from the airport seems to have exhausted young Alfie.

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A nice garden, kids. You can probably play out in front.

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They'll be staying in a traditional four-bed Queenslander-style house.

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I like the fact that there's two living areas,

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there's one there for the TV and, like our book room,

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you've got a separate reading area.

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Yes, we've got two little living spaces to accommodate everybody, doesn't it?

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After a quick tour of the rest of the house, Murray finds his favourite spot.

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This is lovely, isn't it?

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You can get up in the morning and walk out onto this every morning.

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Cup of tea.

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Listen to them birds. Beautiful.

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We could even time it properly so we wake up before the kids

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and have an hour's peace.

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I don't think we'll be that lucky!

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But as thoughts turn to the week ahead,

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Jai knows exactly what she needs to do to secure her Australian dream.

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I think definitely the children are the point of contention

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at the minute. I would move here tomorrow given the opportunity

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but I think the children still need to be convinced

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that this is a good move for us.

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Trying to persuade them would be

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a harder task than I think the wife is letting on.

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They've got their own minds and they're very strong in what they believe in as well.

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So...yeah, it's going to be a difficult challenge.

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Back in the UK, the Cooks live in this four-bedroom house

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in Wiltshire, which they've renovated and extended.

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They think their comfortable family home is worth £280,000

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and they'll need every penny of that in Australia.

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There's no doubt the Cooks will want to find the right home

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to make this highly emotional move seem worthwhile.

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But finding that dream house will depend on where they choose to live

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and ultimately, how much they have to spend.

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Life in the city could offer more work options for Murray

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and plenty of activities for the whole family.

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But with contemporary four-bedroom homes like this on the market

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for around £360,000, the Cooks may have to move further out of town

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to afford the space they want.

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If it's life by the sea they want, they could try the Gold Coast,

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but it would mean a 45-minute commute to work for Murray.

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With average house prices around £290,000,

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the Cooks may be stretched to find a house to match their UK home.

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For a family used to village life,

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a country suburb like Blackstone could be the perfect choice.

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Traditional wooden houses built in the colonial style like this one

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come with plenty of rustic charm,

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and its nine acres of land offer them all the space they want.

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Priced at £350,000, it's more than the Cooks' budget,

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but there are plenty of other affordable options.

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They're keen to look at more rural properties

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so we are sending them to the country suburbs,

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and they start their search in the nearby town of Ladley

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with this four-bedroom Queenslander home.

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Set back from the road, it has a large front and back garden.

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On the market for £187,000, it's well within the Cooks' budget.

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But is it what they're looking for?

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Estate agent Gay Flynn is here to show them round.

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Just have a look around, if you've got any questions just ask me.

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-OK.

-Thank you.

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I like those glass windows.

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-I like that.

-Stained-glass windows, that's nice.

-I do like that.

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Oh look, you can just come out in the morning and have a look.

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Yes, this is nice. Coming out in the morning to this. Oh, wow.

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What do you think? Could you see yourselves in these bedrooms?

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-I'd want that one in there.

-That'll be mine!

-That'll be mine!

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It's been sold!

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Jai is keen to convince the children

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but finding the right home is only part of the story.

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But has Jai spotted a problem?

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Gay? Is this the only bathroom?

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Yes, it is. The toilet is separate, it's just off the family room there.

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You possibly have an option that you could use that little room

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off the bedroom to make an en suite. You've got the room to do that.

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I love the staircase.

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Oh, wow, this is a nice space. Shut all your kids away!

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No, this could be our lounge area.

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We could have the kitchen diner, and maybe...

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-This could be the living space, yes.

-..a slob area.

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And then down here, we could have as the lounge

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because it's so much bigger to put the TV in.

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In her rush to mentally move in, Jai's not counted the bedrooms.

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Yes, I had forgotten there's only two bedrooms.

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You'd have to have these two as bedrooms,

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so you've got four bedrooms.

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This would be the lounge and then upstairs,

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you'd have the study/book room and the kitchen diner.

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Murray knows how much the move means to Jai.

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He's looking for the positives.

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More room than what we're used to and it's ideal, really.

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But it'll take more than a house to convince him

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it's the right move for the family.

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There's no bad points to this house. I would move in tomorrow.

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Even though it's pink, I would move in tomorrow. It's amazing.

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-I don't like the pink.

-It's cosmetic.

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Yes, but I'd have to change the cosmetics.

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Pink or not, it's a winner for Jai

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but will property two prove as popular?

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It's a four-bedroom, two-bathroom home in the suburb of Yamanto.

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It would give the Cooks all the space they want.

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Priced at around £225,000, it could be within the Cooks' reach

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if they sell their UK home at the right price.

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So as the children check out the garden,

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Murray and Jai take a look at the house.

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Oh, wow.

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-Oh, wow. Oh, wow! I like this area.

-Oh, yes, very nice.

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-I like this kitchen diner.

-Do you?

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Yeah, I do. I quite like that. It's quite nice

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because then you've got a family area within the kitchen...

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-which is nice.

-I like the separate dining area.

-Oh, wow.

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The study's here already set up, isn't it?

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-Study/living room kind of area...

-which is nice

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and you're not losing the space from your lounge

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by having your study there

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-because it's big enough to accommodate both, isn't it?

-Hmm.

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Yes. Don't think I'd have the study in the lounge, though.

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Jai can only see the positives but Murray has concerns.

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See, even for a child's room, it's still a good size, isn't it?

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-It certainly is, yes.

-It's got built-in wardrobes.

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-You could still easily fit a double bed in here.

-Oh, yes.

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I'm not sure about the light on the wall. That's strange, isn't it?

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With the fan in the middle of the ceiling,

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you can't put the light there, can you?

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I would worry about Alfie touching them fans

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cos they are low enough, aren't they?

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-He'd only do it once, wouldn't he?!

-Well... Once too many. After you.

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Well, the house seems to be getting the thumbs up from Jai at least

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but what about the garden?

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It seems the children have found something they like.

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-Got something to show you.

-What?

-What?

-Over here.

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It's adult brave!

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That's quite a nice size as well, isn't it?

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It's not too big but it's not too small.

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It's a nice size, isn't it, yes? Just to relax and refresh, isn't it?

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But Jai's not sure about the added costs.

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You'd have to pay to have it cleaned.

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That's a self-cleaning thing there, isn't it?

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That thing inside the water's doing it for you,

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It sticks to the side and goes round.

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-It doesn't get the leaves out.

-Well, no, it's just a net, isn't it?

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Murray's found the perfect solution.

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-It could be Alfie's Sunday morning chore.

-Yeah!

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So what's the verdict on this house?

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The downstairs is probably more spacious on this property,

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but I like the charm and character of the Queenslander.

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I do like the downstairs.

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The feel of the house is a bit more English home downstairs.

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Yes, the overlooking closeness of all the other houses here

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is a bit too much, I think.

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Jai knows it's the children who hold the key to her dream life Down Under, so what do they think?

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I'm not sure about everything at the moment, really.

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That doesn't sound very hopeful but Jai still has time to win them over.

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Maybe property three will do the trick.

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Situated in a suburb of Woodend,

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it's a five-bedroom open-plan home with a good-sized garden.

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At around £325,000, it's well out of the Cooks' reach

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on just Murray's salary, but if Jai got a job

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they might just be able to stretch to it.

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-I like the furniture.

-It's a nice hallway.

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Yes.

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-I like this.

-Oh, wow. It's different.

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That's really made good use of the space. You don't like that?

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I'm not sure I like the kitchen and dining in the sitting room.

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Jai knows she must remain upbeat about Aussie property

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if she's to convince the family to move, but Murray certainly has his doubts.

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Yes, it is a bit strange.

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-Well, this is a good-sized room.

-Oh, yeah.

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Oh, and you can walk straight out on the veranda in the morning.

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Yes, very nice. Or we can sit here and watch cricket.

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-That's what I was thinking. The view out of the front...

-Fantastic!

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A cricket pitch. You could sit watch it all day.

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But after a quick tour of the rest of the upstairs,

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-they're still not sure.

-I do like this property a great deal.

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I am concerned, though, about how we would fit all of our furniture

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for a lounge, dining room and kitchen into this one area.

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They both know familiar home comforts are important

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to help the family settle in after such a huge move.

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-OK...we can bring our furniture.

-Yes.

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-That's...

-That's an awful lot of extra space, isn't it?

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So now not only is Jai moving her furniture in,

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she's also got bigger plans.

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You know what you could do with this area?

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You could turn this into like a granny flat

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for when the parents come to stay.

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-Yeah.

-So they'd have their own space.

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-OK.

-You hadn't thought about that, had you?!

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We can get a caravan for that!

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But as they check out the garden, Murray spots a problem.

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If you turn around, how many properties can you see?

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There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

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Eight properties just in your own garden, that's a heck of a lot.

0:18:540:18:58

I'm not sold on it at the moment but it certainly working on me, yes.

0:18:580:19:03

I think it's quite a shock to come here

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and see that the majority of the properties are open plan.

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That could be difficult for him to get used to.

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I don't think he's a big fan of it, really.

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They seem to have different ideas about Australian homes.

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While Jai fell in love with property one,

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Murray was worried about the upkeep.

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He liked the English feel of property number two,

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but Jai preferred the charm and character of the Queenslander.

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And while Jai can see the potential of property three,

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its lack of privacy and location were a concern for Murray.

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So how will they vote on the properties they've seen?

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They've all been, in my opinion, very spacious,

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very good value for money, and based on what we have seen today,

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we are going to vote for...

0:19:500:19:53

-Australia!

-England.

-Don't know.

0:19:540:19:58

Oh...that's a bit of a surprise,

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I thought you would have gone one way or the other.

0:20:020:20:05

Come on, vote for England. Vote for England!

0:20:050:20:07

Mum, like you always say,

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-you've got to let people choose in their own time.

-I know!

0:20:090:20:12

-I'll work on you afterwards!

-Oh, God.

0:20:120:20:16

With only two votes for Australia,

0:20:190:20:22

it looks like Jai has her work cut out to persuade the family.

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But all her efforts could be in vain if Murray can't find a job he likes.

0:20:270:20:32

Back in the UK, Murray has built up

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his own successful plastering business with a trusted reputation.

0:20:350:20:39

As the boss, he sets his own hours,

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but finds the pressure of work can also eat into family time.

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But in Australia,

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at least to start with, he'd be working for someone else.

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He needs to feel comfortable and secure in his work

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if he's ever to consider the move Down Under

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and this is weighing heavily on his mind.

0:20:550:20:59

At the moment, driving to work, I'm a bit nervous...

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Don't know what to expect, really.

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Hoping that it's pretty similar to home.

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I'd like to spend more time with the children.

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That's primarily why we're looking at Australia

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so we can have a better time with the kids.

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Not working so long hours and night time and weekends, you know.

0:21:180:21:22

It's going to be really interesting.

0:21:220:21:25

Today is going to be a make or break day, I would say.

0:21:250:21:29

But before he can get his hands dirty, there's a setback.

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The rain has halted work on the building site so Murray's off

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to meet plastering boss Donnie Starley at a smaller job.

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Keen to see what he can do, Donnie sets Murray to work straightaway.

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And Murray needs to be sure that there will be opportunities

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for him in Australia.

0:21:530:21:56

How easy is it to pick up work?

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It has been a bit of a quiet period lately,

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but we're picking up heaps of work again now,

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and people are telling me that it's going to start picking up again.

0:22:020:22:07

I mean, before, it was hard to find renderers.

0:22:070:22:11

As I said, I had a couple come from England.

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Got a couple of guys from New Zealand.

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So yes, at the moment, it's a little harder but it is picking up again.

0:22:160:22:19

-The work is still there?

-Yes, the work's still...

0:22:190:22:22

-I've just put on two new guys this last week.

-Oh, right.

0:22:220:22:24

Well, that's positive. At least Murray could find work

0:22:240:22:28

but Jai knows their move to Australia rests on the children.

0:22:280:22:33

So in a bid to entice them Down Under, Jai takes the girls

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to the local trampolining club.

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If she's to keep her dream alive, she knows she must convince them.

0:22:380:22:43

It's really all about the children.

0:22:430:22:46

I think if it was down to Murray and I, I'd probably win Murray over

0:22:460:22:50

in a heartbeat and we could come but I think the children

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are the sticking point. Unless we get them on board,

0:22:530:22:56

I think it's probably going to be a bit of a no-go unfortunately.

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And she's not leaving anything to chance in her attempts

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to persuade football-mad Alfie.

0:23:030:23:06

I think, actually, Alfie, now that he knows that it's feasible

0:23:110:23:15

to play football in Australia and it's not something

0:23:150:23:18

he has to leave behind,

0:23:180:23:21

I think that could be a real winning point for him, yes.

0:23:210:23:23

Well, the children seem to have had a good day. But what about Murray?

0:23:230:23:27

Before he can decide, he's keen to get some answers from Donnie.

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What kind of hours would I be expected to work

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if I came over and maybe come to work for yourself?

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Working for me, I pretty much try and keep to the 40-hour week,

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try not to work weekends. Some of my boys have family and stuff

0:23:400:23:44

-so they like to spend it with them.

-Yes.

0:23:440:23:46

But some of the bigger gangs, especially on the high-rises

0:23:460:23:49

-and that, I've heard of 60-70 hours a week.

-Blimey.

0:23:490:23:52

So again it depends on who you're working for. A minimum of 40,

0:23:520:23:58

that's the normal kind of working week.

0:23:580:24:00

-Oh, right, OK.

-And then any kind of overtime after that.

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What would, roughly, the annual salary be?

0:24:030:24:05

We pay hourly rate. 30 is your average

0:24:050:24:07

kind of spread across the industry, across the housing industry anyway.

0:24:070:24:12

That's all very positive.

0:24:120:24:14

Working full time, Murray could match his UK salary,

0:24:140:24:18

and Jai knows just how crucial financial security is to their move.

0:24:180:24:22

I know he wants to do well today

0:24:220:24:25

and I think, depending on the outcome of today,

0:24:250:24:27

it will have an impact on his decision

0:24:270:24:30

to do this as a full-time move.

0:24:300:24:32

So I'm really hoping it goes well. Obviously!

0:24:320:24:35

It's time to find out. How will Murray vote?

0:24:350:24:38

Unfortunately, I didn't get to see as much as I would have liked.

0:24:380:24:41

Because of the weather, we had to change jobs.

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So I'm going to vote for...

0:24:460:24:49

England.

0:24:490:24:51

Despite earning the same money in Australia, Murray would have

0:24:510:24:54

to give up the business and reputation he's worked so hard

0:24:540:24:57

to establish in the UK. It's a tough decision to make.

0:24:570:25:02

That's another blow to Jai's dream.

0:25:050:25:09

If they can't afford a better life Down Under,

0:25:090:25:12

there's no way Murray will make the move,

0:25:120:25:16

so it's crucial they get the right price for the sale of their UK home.

0:25:160:25:21

Jai and Murray bought their house for £113,000 nine years ago,

0:25:210:25:26

but with a large extension they've added,

0:25:260:25:29

Jai now thinks it's worth around £280,000.

0:25:290:25:33

It's crucial they get a good price. Their future plans rely on it.

0:25:330:25:38

We sent three local estate agents round to value the house

0:25:380:25:41

in the prevailing market.

0:25:410:25:42

Good-size room, nice having the down lighters.

0:25:420:25:46

Quite low-maintenance flooring makes it quite handy for a family

0:25:460:25:50

and also door through to the kitchen, so quite practical.

0:25:500:25:53

Some lovely big rooms, got some choice decor.

0:25:570:25:59

There's a few bits that need touching up, but overall, it's a good size here.

0:25:590:26:04

Nicely fitted kitchen, built-in appliances and good workspace.

0:26:090:26:15

A white suite, always popular, quite modern and contemporary,

0:26:180:26:23

lovely size bath, great for the family

0:26:230:26:25

and having a separate shower's very useful. Very handy.

0:26:250:26:28

A good-sized master bedroom.

0:26:300:26:33

A few things to tidy up round the edges again.

0:26:330:26:36

Well, this is obviously the son's bedroom, very keen on football.

0:26:360:26:40

I think to sell a house, it always is better to see a bit more paint

0:26:400:26:43

on the walls than posters but yes, a Chelsea supporter.

0:26:430:26:48

THEY LAUGH

0:26:480:26:51

Interesting four-bedroom house,

0:26:510:26:54

obviously had a big extension in the past.

0:26:540:26:56

Would suit a family and certainly, it's got good-sized accommodation.

0:26:560:27:00

Location wise, it's a popular village and there is lack of availability in Ashton Keynes.

0:27:000:27:04

Ideally, inside could do with a little bit of decor

0:27:040:27:07

just to bring it up to top-notch standard.

0:27:070:27:09

Putting a house on the market,

0:27:090:27:11

I would suggest setting a guide price in the region of £265,000.

0:27:110:27:16

Figure wise, I'd probably put it on the market for about 240

0:27:160:27:19

and expect to get a figure of 230-235.

0:27:190:27:22

We would market the property at £215,000

0:27:220:27:25

although for a quick sale, we'd be looking for a figure of £205,000.

0:27:250:27:29

The 240, I thought was probably about right

0:27:300:27:34

and the higher end of 265 was quite surprising, really,

0:27:340:27:38

and obviously, there are bits to do around the house.

0:27:380:27:41

We could even go up a little bit around the higher mark.

0:27:410:27:46

But it's still slightly disconcerting

0:27:460:27:49

that you're looking at a £50,000 difference.

0:27:490:27:52

Well, between estate agents, yes.

0:27:520:27:55

I would have expected them to be a lot closer.

0:27:550:27:58

I think the other guys were probably about right.

0:27:580:28:01

The mid-range. They were a bit older, a bit more experienced.

0:28:010:28:06

The younger guy... Well, 250?

0:28:060:28:08

That's not a bad price for it, compared to what we paid for it.

0:28:080:28:13

I know it's a vast improvement on what we paid,

0:28:130:28:15

but it's still down on our expectations,

0:28:150:28:18

which then affects the property that we could afford in Australia.

0:28:180:28:21

Do you think we will have to get a house like... not one that we've seen,

0:28:210:28:24

more like a smaller one if we did come to Australia?

0:28:240:28:28

I think we'd still be able to afford the pink house,

0:28:280:28:31

which was one we liked best anyway, but what we're saying

0:28:310:28:35

is the other two which were more expensive were very nice

0:28:350:28:38

and had we preferred those houses,

0:28:380:28:40

we wouldn't have been able to afford it.

0:28:400:28:42

Well, we'll just have to wait and see what the cost of living is here

0:28:420:28:46

and compare it to what it is at home and see how we come out on that.

0:28:460:28:50

The property valuation has come as a blow to Jai

0:28:500:28:53

and her dreams of living Down Under hang in the balance.

0:28:530:28:57

We've provided a breakdown of the costs of living in Australia. Can they afford it?

0:28:570:29:01

-Mortgage is considerably lower.

-Yes.

0:29:010:29:06

The payment is considerably lower.

0:29:060:29:09

-Yes, fantastic.

-We could manage with that a month.

0:29:090:29:12

It would probably be slightly higher,

0:29:120:29:17

noting that our property valuation is lower than that.

0:29:170:29:20

Even if it was double that, we could still afford that quite easily just on your salary.

0:29:200:29:25

-Crikey, look at that. What is that?

-Look at the difference in cheese.

0:29:250:29:28

I love cheese, and milk as well.

0:29:280:29:30

That's surprising. I thought milk would be down.

0:29:300:29:33

It's what we were saying.

0:29:330:29:34

-That groceries are more expensive over here than in the UK.

-Yeah.

0:29:340:29:39

Our UK income and expenditure is based on us both working.

0:29:390:29:45

-The Aussie one is based on just you working.

-Just me.

0:29:450:29:47

So even if you did work, we would still be a lot better off, really.

0:29:470:29:51

So even if I didn't work, if I couldn't get a job,

0:29:510:29:53

we could still support ourselves.

0:29:530:29:56

Yes, just on my salary, couldn't we?

0:29:560:29:59

I could quite enjoy being a lady of leisure.

0:29:590:30:03

On the whole, it doesn't seem too bad.

0:30:030:30:05

It seems quite promising, really.

0:30:050:30:07

I would say that's actually been a pleasant surprise

0:30:070:30:09

because, based on what we'd seen,

0:30:090:30:12

I did think it would be more expensive to live

0:30:120:30:15

but the property would be cheaper.

0:30:150:30:17

So they could be financially better off in Australia.

0:30:170:30:20

Surely this is just the news to put Jai's dream back on track.

0:30:200:30:25

Based on the information we've seen,

0:30:250:30:27

it was pleasing to note that I wouldn't need to work for us

0:30:270:30:30

to survive quite comfortably in Australia.

0:30:300:30:32

And based on that, we are going to vote for...

0:30:320:30:37

BOTH: Australia.

0:30:370:30:39

-Oh, wow. I think that's the first match we've had.

-I know.

0:30:390:30:42

I don't like the bit about you "don't need to work".

0:30:420:30:45

I just thought that was really nice, you being the primary,

0:30:450:30:48

you support us all and I'd be a '50s housewife!

0:30:480:30:50

It's not caveman times, you know!

0:30:500:30:53

Finally, they agree on something.

0:30:570:31:00

Jai and Murray can see an affordable future in Australia

0:31:000:31:04

but that's all just still a pipe dream

0:31:040:31:07

if they can't convince the children of the benefits of life Down Under.

0:31:070:31:12

So they're off to the animal sanctuary near Brisbane

0:31:120:31:15

where Jai hopes to build on her earlier success

0:31:150:31:18

with the trampolining and football.

0:31:180:31:21

Will getting the children up close and personal with Aussie wildlife help seal the deal on her dream?

0:31:210:31:26

With Jai convinced on Australian homes and finances,

0:31:260:31:30

she desperately wants the children to fall in love with the lifestyle.

0:31:300:31:33

Park ranger Jackie is on hand with tips on how to handle the animals.

0:31:330:31:37

OK, this is the food to feed the kangaroos

0:31:370:31:40

and what you do is you sprinkle a little bit on your hand,

0:31:400:31:44

and then hold your hand nice and flat

0:31:440:31:48

and they'll just nibble it out of your hand.

0:31:480:31:51

-Will they nibble your hand?

-No, no. You'll actually feel their whiskery mouths on your hands

0:31:510:31:55

so it's a bit ticklish sometimes.

0:31:550:31:57

You want some? Would you like some?

0:31:570:32:02

Oh, look at that one, he's wonderful.

0:32:020:32:06

The kangaroos are a big hit and have even got Alfie curious.

0:32:080:32:12

Why have they got black tails?

0:32:120:32:14

Good question, Alfie. I'm not sure why it's black.

0:32:140:32:17

I think it might have something to do with helping them camouflage

0:32:170:32:20

in amongst the grass, but the colour doesn't actually

0:32:200:32:23

have anything to do with how they function or how they move.

0:32:230:32:29

Some of Jai's enthusiasm seems to be rubbing off on the children,

0:32:290:32:33

but is her attempt to win them over really working?

0:32:330:32:36

I think he likes you, Ellie!

0:32:360:32:38

Now, that you've had the opportunity to stroke a koala,

0:32:400:32:43

how many would like to come and live in Australia?

0:32:430:32:45

-Not me.

-Me.

-Maybe.

0:32:450:32:49

It's a delicate balance for Jai. Push too hard

0:32:490:32:53

and the children won't vote for Australia.

0:32:530:32:55

With their hearts set on the UK, Jai is trying everything

0:32:550:32:58

to change their minds.

0:32:580:33:00

I love snakes, they're really nice.

0:33:000:33:02

Everyone thinks they're slimy but they're smooth.

0:33:020:33:05

So knowing that there are hundreds of snakes in Australia,

0:33:050:33:08

might that make you want to live here?

0:33:080:33:10

-170 or so, roughly.

-A bit more, yes.

0:33:100:33:15

Finally, Jai seems to be winning the children round.

0:33:160:33:20

OK, so is anyone up for a hold? Do you want to have it on your neck?

0:33:200:33:23

-Could you hold the head? I'm happy with the tail.

-Sure.

0:33:230:33:28

Libby seems keen but Murray's definitely not a fan.

0:33:280:33:32

I know you don't like snakes, baby, but if it's the only way

0:33:320:33:35

we can get Libby to live in Australia, we might have to buy one.

0:33:350:33:38

Oh, no. She can go live in the shed...or I will!

0:33:380:33:42

So, does Jai think the children are finally falling in love

0:33:420:33:46

with Australia, or is there still some convincing to do?

0:33:460:33:49

I think by the time we leave,

0:33:490:33:52

they will have made their mind up one way or the other.

0:33:520:33:54

I think Ellie probably is quite happy with the prospect

0:33:540:33:58

and even Libby and Alfie do seem a lot more optimistic about it.

0:33:580:34:03

When we left England, they were very much, "No, not interested, don't want to know."

0:34:030:34:07

Now that we're here, they both seem quite settled and quite happy,

0:34:070:34:11

enjoying the climate, enjoying the wildlife.

0:34:110:34:15

So I think there's still hope there that they might change their minds.

0:34:150:34:19

Is she right? How will they vote?

0:34:190:34:22

We've had a lovely day today seeing all the animals that are indigenous to Australia.

0:34:220:34:26

So based on that, we are going to vote...

0:34:260:34:29

-Australia!

-Don't know.

0:34:290:34:32

-Well, that's different, isn't it?

-Well, we're getting closer.

-I've got a different decision.

0:34:320:34:36

We've got three "Australias" and two undecided.

0:34:360:34:39

That is a difference.

0:34:390:34:40

So on this score at least, England was out of the equation...

0:34:400:34:43

-which is good. We're getting there.

-We'll see!

0:34:430:34:49

Well, that's one out of three.

0:34:530:34:56

At least it seems Ellie is onside, but if the Cooks are going to make

0:34:560:35:01

the move to the other side of the world, they'll have to cope

0:35:010:35:04

with the emotional upheaval of leaving loved ones behind.

0:35:040:35:09

So we prepared some messages from those back home.

0:35:090:35:13

Hi, Jai. Hi, Murray.

0:35:130:35:15

Hi, Murray, Jai.

0:35:150:35:16

Hi, Lib, Hi, Ell.

0:35:160:35:18

I hope you're having a great time out there in Australia.

0:35:180:35:21

Murray's a very thoughtful person. He phones...

0:35:210:35:26

I don't know what to say about him!

0:35:260:35:28

-He's very caring.

-Very, very caring person, yes.

0:35:280:35:30

There's not a day goes by without he doesn't phone me up and say "Hello, Mum, are you all right?"

0:35:300:35:35

OK, I'd better start with Libby as the eldest.

0:35:350:35:39

An absolute bundle of fun. Has been from that small to now,

0:35:390:35:45

obviously, much bigger. Smashing personality.

0:35:450:35:49

Ellie is just full of beans

0:35:490:35:52

and up for anything all the time.

0:35:520:35:55

I can't keep up with either of them, to be honest!

0:35:550:35:58

Libby's very exciting and she's like full of surprises,

0:35:580:36:03

and she can be very different but she's very funny as well.

0:36:030:36:07

Alfie's really into his football. Big Liverpool supporter.

0:36:070:36:11

He's got his football, he's happy.

0:36:110:36:14

Ellie is very funny. She makes me laugh. Um...

0:36:140:36:18

She cheers me up, and I like being with her.

0:36:180:36:22

Jai's bubbly, she's...um...

0:36:220:36:25

very busy,

0:36:250:36:28

full-time job, husband, three children, three dogs.

0:36:280:36:32

Jai's one of those people, she's always there for you.

0:36:320:36:35

You could phone her at midnight and she'd answer the phone

0:36:350:36:39

and whatever you wanted to talk about, she'd talk to you

0:36:390:36:41

for two hours if you needed her. She's brilliant.

0:36:410:36:44

Murray will find it difficult leaving Cirencester. I think,

0:36:440:36:49

because he's got a close family

0:36:490:36:51

and he's got a lot of friends in the area. He's lived here all his life.

0:36:510:36:55

I've resigned myself to the fact

0:36:550:36:58

that if they want to go, it's up to them.

0:36:580:37:00

We'll back them all the way. I'll still be devastated if he goes.

0:37:000:37:05

I think it's a great opportunity to raise the children

0:37:050:37:08

in a great environment.

0:37:080:37:10

I think they just want to do what's best for the kids.

0:37:100:37:13

I'd miss Alfie just ringing up when he feels like it,

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miss talking to all of them on the phone.

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There's nobody like Murray in my eyes.

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I know I've got my daughter and she knows how I feel,

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but to me, Murray is the be all and end all of my life.

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I could cope with going, thinking about them going

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for a few years, enjoying the lifestyle and then coming back,

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but going for good is quite difficult.

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Those two girls keep the smile on my face every day,

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I speak to them every day, I text them every day, and to imagine

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that I could lose that,

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it would break my heart if they went to Australia.

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Murray, I hope you make the right decision.

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Whatever decision you make, we will back you all the way.

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I know you will make the right decision for your family

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and I'll miss you loads.

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I just want you to know that we've missed you lots and lots.

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It's only a short time away but we've really missed you.

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It would be really, really hard to think about you being out there all the time.

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I just want what's best for you and what makes you all happy.

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See you soon then. Love you lots, bye.

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Are you OK?

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Are you all right? OK.

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It's hard, isn't it?

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To see what we are leaving behind and how people feel about us.

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What about you, Ellie?

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What do you think about most when you watch that?

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Dad mainly, and our friends, thinking about that.

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If I said to you, "We've decided we're not going back to England,

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"we're just going to stay here", what would your first reaction be?

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I'm going back on the plane. I've got school in a couple of days!

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What about you, Alfie? What did you think about that video?

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-I want to go back to England.

-You want to go back to England?

-Why?

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Who did you miss most?

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-Everyone.

-Everyone?

-Everyone?

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What about you?

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I was quite surprised, actually,

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because I thought I already knew everybody's views,

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so I didn't think watching the video would upset me.

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Seeing your family get upset is very difficult.

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At the moment, I'm probably avoiding thinking about the parents.

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My mum's had periods over the last year of not being so well

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so it does bother me that I would be a long, long way away from them.

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I don't know how to deal with that or think about that at the moment.

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If I decided to go, I've really got to give it a lot more thought

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on how it would affect me, and my mum and dad, really.

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Well, the Cooks have had their ups and downs this week

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and with Murray firmly on the fence, Jai's hopes rest with the children.

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But if they can't bear leaving their friends and family behind,

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her aspirations of a new life Down Under will be over.

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The move was always Jai's dream.

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I'm definitely the driving force behind this idea.

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And Australia was everything she wanted.

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There was no bad points to this house. Even though it's pink, I would move in tomorrow.

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But she knew getting the children on board would be very difficult.

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-I want to go back to England.

-You want to go back to England?

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Work was always an issue for Murray,

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but in Australia, the reality of leaving loved ones finally hit home.

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It does bother me that I would be a long, long way away from them.

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For Jai, everything rests on her family's final decision.

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I think if we don't do it, I will regret it every day.

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So how will they vote?

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Has she done enough to persuade them

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or is her dream about to be shattered? It's time to find out.

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We've had some wonderful experiences, met some lovely people,

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and based on that, we are going to vote for...

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-Australia.

-Don't know.

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Well, that's a mixed bag, isn't it?

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You're the only one who sticks to Australia again.

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I think it's long enough for me to realise what we we've got here.

0:41:420:41:46

A little bit more time then I could probably give you a better answer, actually.

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A little bit more time and...you never know.

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After that final blow destroyed Jai's hopes of a life Down Under,

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what does the future hold for her?

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It was very disappointing. I was really hoping that this opportunity

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to come over and visit Australia would actually show them

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the benefits of living here and could actually show them

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how wonderful things could be and what sort of life we could have.

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As far as I'm concerned, there's actually no negative

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about coming here, so for the rest of the family to see

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nothing but negatives, or so it seemed to me...

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Yes, it was a little bit disheartening, to be honest.

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I would say that, no, the dream isn't over for me

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and I will probably keep bringing it up for discussion, keep trying

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to convince the family that it's the right thing for us,

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and hope that, at some point, they give in gracefully

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and we can come to Australia.

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My goodness, it's been quite a week for the Cooks.

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It seems Jai's Australian dream is over.

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But who knows, she may still be able to persuade them.

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Join us next time when we follow another British family

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who are Wanted Down Under.

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