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Moving to the other side of the world is never an easy decision to make.

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Ten thousand miles is a long way to go to start a new life,

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especially if you've never lived outside your home town before.

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Today, it's a battle of wills.

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Steven and Fred have to choose whether to stay in the UK or move to Australia.

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Steven doesn't care. And he just throws caution to the wind and just does it.

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A move to Australia could potentially put a massive strain on me and Fred.

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This is a life-changing decision that only one person wants to make.

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It's you who wants to move, not me.

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When it comes to experiencing a taste of life in Australia, the cracks really begin to show.

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It's been a stressful week. It's not been easy.

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Will making this decision bring them together or tear them apart?

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Get used to it. Get over it.

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Will they stay at home or make the tough decision to move where they're Wanted Down Under?

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With its British connections and sunny climate,

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Australia is the perfect place to consider

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for Brits leaving the UK in search of a new life.

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But the grass isn't always greener, and leaving everything you know ten thousand miles away

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can be a lot harder than many expect.

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Port Sunlight is an historic village on the Wirral, Merseyside.

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It's home to 44-year-old Steven McEvoy and Fred Wareham, who's 32.

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Steven's job as a science teacher will help get them a visa for Australia,

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but outside school, his real passion is playing tennis.

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This has fuelled his desire for a move down under.

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I would like to have somewhere which was hot all year round to play tennis.

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I love tennis and being outdoors, so I would like the opportunity to do that.

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But first he has to get Fred on board, who's from a very large family and has a lot to lose.

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It will be difficult for me to make the move

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for the simple reason that I'd miss my friends and my family.

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Cos I've got 13 brothers and sisters. If anything goes wrong, they're just there,

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whereas halfway across the world, they're not going to be.

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And there's one family member he will miss in particular - his brother Jay.

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I consider my brother to be my best friend. We socialize together, we go out shopping together.

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We go and have a gay day.

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Although he's still into going out into town and not getting in till the next day.

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I know there's always the internet and the phone,

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it's not seeing them face-to-face, is it really?

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He's my best mate and I'll miss him to death.

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Steven hopes Australia might offer him and Fred a tolerant atmosphere where they can really be themselves.

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One of the reasons I want to try Australia is to see whether or not they accept people who are gay.

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What the lifestyle is like there for that.

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Are they more accepting to people or is it better than here?

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And time isn't on their side.

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Steven is approaching the age limit for emigrating to Australia on a skilled visa.

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It's a massive move, but if I don't try now, I'll never do it.

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This is really my last chance to do this at my age.

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Steven and Fred have been together for 13 years,

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but this is the toughest decision they've had to make.

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For Steven and Fred, opportunities for work in Australia are good

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and British teachers are definitely sought-after.

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But their new life in Australia could be very different depending on where they settle.

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They could go to Sydney.

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With 4.5 million inhabitants and lots of teaching opportunities,

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both Fred and Steven should be able to find work here.

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But Sydney is also the most expensive Australian city in which to live,

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with average three-bedroom houses priced around £300,000.

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But it could offer the lifestyle they desire.

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Steven and Fred could try Melbourne,

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a city with a diverse population and history of tolerance for immigrants from all backgrounds.

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The city also hosts the Australian Open Tennis Championships,

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which will no doubt appeal to Steven.

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There's another good reason Melbourne might be suitable.

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Steven's elder brother Brian moved here five years ago, so he could help them settle in.

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Or there's the west coast of Australia.

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The city of Fremantle is just 12 miles south of Perth

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and is a quiet alternative to Australia's larger hubs.

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House prices are much more affordable here than the east coast,

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but they may have to commute into Perth for work.

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So three possible lifestyle choices for Steven and Fred to try out there.

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Which one would suit them best?

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We decided that Melbourne had the edge over the other two for their week's trial down under.

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With its cosmopolitan and accepting background, they should feel comfortable

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and Steven's brother would be able to offer valuable support.

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Over the course of a week, both of them will sample all aspects of Aussie life.

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They'll look at properties to buy...

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It's clean, it's modern...

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-And it's a no.

-And it's a no.

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And be put to work.

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I'll ask Steve to take over. Maybe he can test you to see how much you know already.

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Finally, they'll come to a decision on whether to stay in the UK or move to Australia.

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They have a long week ahead of them, but will they come out it unscathed?

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-No way. Never in a million years.

-STEVEN SIGHS: Drama queen.

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Steven and Fred's journey to Australia covers almost 10,000 miles,

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and they spend over 21 hours in the air.

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Plenty of time to think about the huge change they could be making to their lives.

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They finally touch down in Melbourne at 8.45 AM local time.

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They've barely set foot on Australian soil, and already Fred's missing family back home

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and is worried whether or not he'll fit in.

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It was sad leaving family and friends and things,

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but my biggest concerns are whether I can relate to new people here, whether I can make a connection.

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Steven's already thinking practically.

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I don't know whether we could afford to live in Australia, to be honest with you.

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And that's a major concern for me. I'm just hoping that we can afford to live here.

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He needs to reassure himself about the money, not to mention

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convincing Fred about the lifestyle they could have. It's going to take a lot of persuading.

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Steven and Fred will be staying in a two-bedroom apartment in Elsternwick,

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just 15 minutes' drive from the city centre.

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With a history dating back to a gold rush in the mid-19th century,

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Melbourne has its share of Victorian architecture.

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This rental property with its high ceilings and unique details is a classic example.

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So let's hope they like it.

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Look at the huge staircase. I love it.

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It's lovely. I think it's really grand. What do you think, Fred?

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Hm... A deathly silence from Fred isn't too promising.

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Let's hope the inside changes his mind.

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Oh my God... It's big and dramatic, Fred, isn't it?

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-So spacious!

-Already, Steven is on the offensive.

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But Fred just isn't convinced.

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Well, I don't think I'll be fitting all my clothes in there.

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They've driven through the local suburb of Elsternwick, but it just hasn't impressed Fred.

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I don't think it was what I expected it to be.

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-It seemed very...

-Dated.

-Scruffy. A lot of graffiti around.

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It's a different culture, you know.

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I mean, graffiti is a form of art over here,

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so it's not like a gang of scallies or ruffians run round causing trouble.

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This could just be a cultural thing on our first day, that we don't understand

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and we haven't seen before, that's all.

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Steven desperately wants to make this move, but persuading Fred could be an uphill struggle.

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There is going to be a time where we're going to have to adjust.

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You know... Get used to it. Get over it.

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Fred's high expectations could be difficult to fulfil.

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This week could prove harder than either Fred or Steven ever imagined.

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Back in the UK, Steven and Fred live in a two-bedroom house

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in the quiet and peaceful village of Port Sunlight.

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They've put a lot of love into their home already,

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but they'll be looking for something bigger and more luxurious in Australia.

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All houses in Britain seem to be compacted together. It's sort of small

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and there's not a lot of space, whereas in Australia, it's a house with a garden you can walk around

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and a lot of space.

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They've almost paid this mortgage off so estimate their budget will be around £300,000.

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And if possible, Steven wants to live mortgage-free in Australia.

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My dream is somewhere by the beach, possibly in Melbourne or Sydney,

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with a view of the ocean and possibly a tennis club just around the corner within walking distance.

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-I'll have a pool.

-So I can get up in the morning, go and play tennis,

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do a bit of teaching in a local school

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and round they day off with a lovely meal in an outdoor fresh fish restaurant.

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It sounds like they've got it all worked out, but will the reality live up to their dream?

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Steven and Fred have a property budget of around £300,000,

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depending on what they can get for their UK home.

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But not even this amount of money can make the heart-wrenching move any easier.

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Melbourne city centre is alive with shops, cafés and bars,

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but property prices are high.

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This single-bedroom apartment is valued at around £500,000.

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If they want to live centrally,

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they could try an up-and-coming suburb like Yarraville,

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a 15-minute drive to the city centre,

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where this small two-bedroom house is selling for £310,000.

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If you're prepared to move out of town,

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you could pick up more of a bargain.

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The area of Werribee is a 30-minute drive to town,

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and four-bedroom houses like this are on the market for £230,000.

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But Steven may have to commute

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into the city as there aren't many schools out here.

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With its miles of beaches sweeping southeast on Port Phillip Bay,

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there are many places in Melbourne within a short drive of the sea.

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But you do pay a bit more for the privilege.

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This four-bedroom house is 40 minutes from Melbourne city centre

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and is priced at £320,000.

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But Steven wouldn't have to commute too far,

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as schools are dotted all along the coast.

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If Steven's going to persuade Fred to leave his close-knit family, having a good home will be the key.

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Property one is in the suburb of Mornington,

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about 45 minutes' drive from the city and only 20 minutes from the beach.

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It's a two-bedroom house with a back yard and garage

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and is on the market for 440,000,

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about £250,000, so well within budget.

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But will it be impressive enough for the boys?

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-I'd want that one as well.

-There's another one next door.

-We can get that for your parents.

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Finding the right property is crucial to Steven and Fred.

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They are house-proud and wouldn't be happy with a step down the property ladder.

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-Quite modern, but not my decor.

-It's very modern. I like the decor, myself.

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The downstairs is checked within a glance, so it's upstairs to explore the rest of the house.

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The main bedroom has a good-size window, but there isn't much privacy.

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-You could watch everything from here, couldn't you?

-Even our house isn't as overlooked as that.

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It's looking like this house isn't going to be enough to persuade Fred that Australia is for him.

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-It's tidy, but...

-I want a separate shower.

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I want a his and his sink.

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I'm more concerned with a separate shower like we've got a home.

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The bathroom doesn't meet their high standards, and the owners' taste is putting Fred right off.

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-Oh my God... No, no, no...

-How much space do you need?

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-Don't forget this is the second bedroom.

-You can live here on your own.

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This two-bedroom house has a simple design and is well finished,

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but is that enough to interest Steven and Fred?

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I like it, but to me, it's too close to the other houses.

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And Fred really isn't convinced.

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I think it's a lovely house, but it's just not for us.

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You know, you're living literally on top of each other.

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Steven will have to work harder if he's going to persuade Fred that this is the right move.

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I think you can be too idealistic.

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-Myself, I just want somewhere simple, somewhere where you can relax.

-You can move here on your own.

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No, I like it. I think this is an ideal bachelor pad.

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-OK, bye.

-FRED LAUGHS

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Fred leaves property one a disappointed man. For him to even think about making the move,

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we'll have to find something really special, or he could be heading home on the next available flight.

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Property two is up the coast in the popular suburb of Elwood,

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just 15 minutes' drive to the city centre and across the road from a popular beach.

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But you have to pay for this location. This two-bedroom apartment

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is finished to a high spec and on the market for 600,000,

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around £340,000.

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But will Fred appreciate the bohemian area?

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Already, there's a problem. Fred's done a runner.

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He took one look at the exterior and decided it wasn't even worth looking inside.

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And Steven is not happy.

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I haven't got a clue where he's gone. He's just gone walkabout.

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Gone AWOL.

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Is that him there?

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Ten minutes later, Fred finally returns.

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He's giving up a life surrounded by friends and family

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to follow Steven and his dream to Australia.

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-Nice of you to show up!

-Sorry.

-I can't believe that.

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It's a big ask, and unless he feels comfortable in his surroundings, he won't make the move down under.

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He doesn't like the look of this property and is not even willing to go inside.

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You're having a laugh, aren't you? Look at the state of if. No way. Never in a million years.

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After a stern telling-off from Steven, he's persuaded to take a look.

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The main living area is open-plan with a small yard out the back.

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Nice and big, isn't it?

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-Outside space... What do you think, Fred?

-Very small.

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This is a bad start. Maybe things will improve in the bedrooms.

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-It smells.

-"It smells?"

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Fred just isn't letting up. Steven is trying his best to convince him.

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It's clean, it's modern...

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-And it's a no.

-And it's a no.

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But it's another rejection from Fred.

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Well, at least it's easy to clean. It's only small.

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Nice... Lovely location.

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Steven's positive attitude is still not getting through to Fred, and there's another problem.

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The noise.

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Elwood is a desirable area,

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but the apartment is just too small and not the detached property Fred had in mind.

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Well, I wandered off because it just wasn't appealing to the eye

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and then the noise and... It's just not what I was looking for in an Australian property.

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Well, that's two steps backwards so far. At least we know what they don't like.

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So let's hope property number three is a step forward.

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This house is a detached four-bedroom property down the coast in the suburb of Aspendale,

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about 45 minutes' drive to the city and 10 minutes to the sea.

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It's on the market for 650,000, around £370,000.

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To be able to afford this,

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they would need to get a good price for their UK home and good jobs.

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But will Steven and Fred like it?

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-STEVEN LAUGHS: You're joking me, aren't you?

-Is that good or bad?

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It is incredible. There's a pool!

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I love it straight away. I'm getting an emotional feeling.

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Finally! That sounds a lot more positive.

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-Oh wow...

-It's very showroom, isn't it?

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I don't know what to say, I'm speechless. I love it. I'm moving in.

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Fred is clearly reserving his judgment, but Steven is hooked.

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This is it. I'm taken aback a little bit.

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Fred's supposed to be the emotional one, and I'm the level-headed one, but no.

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To me, now, I feel a bit emotional.

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Steven just can't get enough of this house.

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Is that yours as well?

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Outdoors has a dedicated barbecue area and a pool.

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-Is the pool cold?

-I don't know, do you want to...

-No, it's warm.

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Have a little swim.

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-This property has everything Steven wanted.

-Oh wow...

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Fred has been unusually quiet. He finally has something to say.

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-There's that pylon there. I don't like that.

-You just grow a few trees up that.

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He even tries to convince Steven that this is not the property for them.

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I think you're going with your heart and not with your head,

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cos if you think about it, you know,

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-you can hear the traffic coming up and down this road.

-I love it.

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This is my dream home for Australia.

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And if we could afford this, I would definitely seriously consider it.

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This is something that I expected, but there's certain aspects I like and certain aspects I don't.

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So I wouldn't rush in with my cheque book. Not at all.

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Steven and Fred have seen three very different properties.

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Property one was too small to impress either of them.

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Fred couldn't stand property two even from the outside.

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It was disappointing in terms of size and price.

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Property tree was more on target.

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With a pool and four bedrooms, it was Steven's dream home.

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But it was right at the top of their budget, and Fred still wasn't convinced.

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It's time to make a decision. Will they choose to vote for properties in the UK or in Australia?

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On properties, I'm going to vote...

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..um...

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-Australia.

-And I'm going to vote...

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-..undecided.

-Ah...

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Little Jack or big Jack? I thought you were going to go for little Jack.

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-Well, based on property two and one, I'm still undecided.

-Just get property three

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and stop arguing. Drama queen.

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Steven knows Fred will never move to Australia without that dream home.

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But it doesn't come cheap. To make it happen, both of them will need to secure good jobs.

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Back in the UK, Steven teaches biology at secondary schools around Liverpool.

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Currently, he works on supply and earns around £37,000.

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He'll want to find a similar job in Australia with an equivalent salary.

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'Working 39 weeks of the year in the UK is quite difficult with planning and things like this.

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'Both of us need a good and a better work-life balance.'

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If it's harder and the work-life balance is worse,

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'then I would actually want to work part-time.

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'Whether that's a possibility or not is a major issue for us in the decision'

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whether we stay in the UK or Australia.

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Steven's work is crucial to their visa application,

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so we've set him up with a trial day at Glen Eira College in Melbourne,

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a secondary school with students from many nationalities.

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But when it comes to the Australian syllabus, has he done his homework?

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Um... Little bit apprehensive going into a new school with a completely new syllabus,

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but I'm open to new things and learning new ways.

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It's vital Steven can fit in and interact with Australian pupils.

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Today, he's working with teacher Elizabeth Tasiopolous

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to see if he can transfer his skills to the Aussie classroom.

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We've got a visitor in our room today. He's over from England.

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His name is mr McEvoy. We'll be team-teaching a little bit today,

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so I'm hoping that you will ask him lots of questions and he'll be able to help you out.

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As Steven gets stuck in, Fred's out and about as well.

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It's vital he also finds work to help afford the lifestyle that they long for in Australia.

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Back home, Fred started his own business arranging artificial flowers.

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He's come to meet Brian McKelvey who may be able to give him some work.

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-Hello. I'm Fred.

-How are you?

-Nice to meet you.

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-I heard you're interested in flowers.

-Yes.

-OK.

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And you've worked with artificials or...?

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In the garden centre, that's what I did. I did artificial designs.

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-Considering that, I've got some work that I can ask you to do if you'd like to have a go.

-Right, OK.

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-OK? We'll see what you can get up to.

-OK.

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I will judge you at the end. BRIAN SNIGGERS

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As Fred tries to impress his new boss with his creation, Steven's being tested himself.

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This lesson is brand-new to him, so how will he cope?

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I'll ask Steve to take over. Maybe he can test you to see how much you know already.

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-What's important about plants?

-They're an energy transformer. They transform energies.

-Excellent.

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-Why is it important for us to have plants?

-We wouldn't be able to breath.

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We wouldn't be able to breath because... Excellent.

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-Thank you very much, Year 8. I really enjoyed that. Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

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Steven survived his first Australian class,

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but he needs to ensure that he can earn enough money

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to afford the lifestyle that he and Fred currently have back in the UK.

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So he's been summoned to see the principal Lesley Lamb.

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Will he be quids in or out of pocket?

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After six years' experience, that would put you in "accomplished" in our categorization,

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and you'd be looking at 60,000 per annum. But after ten years,

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the scale increases quite rapidly and you'd be up to about 80,000.

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Good. So it's equivalent to UK money, really. Yeah, good.

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With over six years' experience, Steven could earn at least £35,000 a year.

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So his prospects are looking good. But as ever, he's concerned about Fred.

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Fred needs to work. He's a workaholic. He meets friends through work.

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He won't have any problem meeting friends.

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Once he's got a job, he will be secure.

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And I think that it's a massive thing for Fred to get working.

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So far, Fred has been feeling unsettled. So will this opportunity help change his mind?

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I'm surprisingly enjoying it, more than I thought.

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It's nice to get your fingers back into it again.

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This morning, I was walking around feeling a little bit low.

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But I'm feeling a little bit better today.

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You know, doing something, getting my hands... Getting stuck into something, basically.

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Has he been able to impress Brian with his skills?

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Let's have a look. It's something different to what I would do.

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No, but I think it's good. I like it.

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Probably deserves a beer. FRED LAUGHS

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It's been a good day for both Fred and Steven, but will this be enough to sway Fred's vote?

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Between work in the UK and work in Australia, I'm going to vote...

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-..Australia.

-And I'm going to vote, because of opportunities...

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..Australia.

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It will be a difficult decision to make, leaving a lot of friends and family behind,

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but I feel a lot more positive today.

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It's Fred's first vote for Australia. Could Steven finally be winning him over?

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Steven McEvoy and Fred Wareham are considering

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whether to make the move from Liverpool in the UK to Melbourne, Australia.

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I would like somewhere which was hot all year round to play tennis.

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Steven has had an uphill struggle trying to persuade Fred.

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-Get used to it. Get over it.

-I think you're going with your heart and not with your head.

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When it comes to seeing messages from friends and family back home, emotions run sky-high.

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And they still have to make one of the biggest decisions of their lives.

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I'm yet to be convinced by Australia.

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He knows I want to be here so much.

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It looks like Fred is finding his feet at last.

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But whether they can actually afford their dream house and the lifestyle down under

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depends on the value of their UK home.

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Steven bought their two-bedroom house in 1985 for just £47,000.

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In 2008, they had it valued for £175,000.

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But will it still fetch that price in the harsh economic climate?

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We sent two estate agents in to give it a current valuation.

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Steven and Fred have worked hard to make this house their ideal home.

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But what will the experts say?

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Ooh... Nice fireplace. Decor is quite dark.

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STEVEN GASPS

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Oh, lovely. Very nice.

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At least he wiped his feet.

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Beautiful kitchen. Granite work surfaces, tiled flooring...

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"Beautiful kitchen."

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-Oh...

-It looks clean.

-Of course it does.

-What can I say?

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Absolutely gorgeous.

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-That's what we want to hear.

-Beautiful. Lovely.

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Decor is a little bit OTT for me personally.

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But hey-ho, someone might just like it.

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-Look at your two-piece suit, love.

-STEVEN GASPS

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Stunning bathroom. Unusual bath.

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-Of course.

-Marble, actually.

-Very nice.

-Solid marble tiles.

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Excellent main bedroom, fully fitted wardrobes.

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So mixed reactions to their home,

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but will it make anything near the £175,000 it's previously been valued at?

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Two-bedroom mid-terrace, Port Sunlight. Absolutely lovely. Won't appeal to everybody in decor.

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I actually liked it.

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Probably value it in the region of £169,950.

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Just because it is different.

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This is a very attractive Port Sunlight property.

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Grade II-listed, full of character but with a contemporary twist, some very nice appointments.

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We would recommend marketing around £165,000

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although, if a quicker sale was to be achieved, probably £160,000.

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-Too cheap.

-Well, we don't want a quick sale, so we're not bothered.

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-I wouldn't sell at £160,000. Would you?

-No.

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The annoying part is, we can't sell our house now and go and get somewhere.

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So it forces us into waiting and playing the long game.

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What they get for their house is only the start of their financial considerations.

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So we prepared a breakdown of their cost of living in Australia and the UK

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to see if the sums will add up.

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Well, the UK mortgage... What's our mortgage? £170 in the UK per month.

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-Property three.

-We should base it off that one, because that house...

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That's something we'd like, but somewhere else.

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We're talking a difference of £630. For salary for me, £36,000 in the UK.

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In Australia, it's just over £30,000, say £32,000.

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What do you expect to earn in Australia?

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I'd have to go into retail management. I wouldn't do with less than £20,000.

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32 and 22 is 54.

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So we're £4,000 worse off in Australia.

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£17 tennis club in the UK and it's £30 a month tennis in Australia.

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-You'll have to pack that in.

-OK, so the Australian total is

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£2,327. The UK is...

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..£1,282.

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So that's how much better off we are in the UK compared to Australia.

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-£1,045.

-It's more expensive, but we can do it.

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By choosing their dream home their mortgage increases dramatically, which is making Steven think twice.

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Yeah, it's doable but from a practical point of view, it's a lot of outgoings to sustain.

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It's you who wants to move here, not me.

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Steven is starting to realize this move might be less realistic than he thought.

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But is it a price worth paying? It's time to vote.

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On the costs of living in Australia or the UK...

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..I'm going to choose Australia.

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UK.

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-Why are you voting UK?

-I'm just focusing on one factor.

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Cost of living is cheaper in the UK. Why did you vote Australia?

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Because we can afford it.

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OK.

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Against all odds, the roles have been reversed. Could this change everything?

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In trying to live up to Fred's high expectations,

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Steven is beginning to realize his dream of living mortgage-free could be impossible.

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But this move has always been more than just about money.

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It's been about living the outdoor life in a tolerant atmosphere.

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Steven's Australian dream has always been motivated by his passion for tennis.

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Our relationship starts when Steven isn't playing tennis.

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Though Steven plays four times a week all year round, Fred has never seen him play.

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The simple reason is the stigma around...you know, being gay.

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He plays with a lot of teachers. I wouldn't want it flying around and affecting his career.

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We've always kept our lives separate where that concerns.

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It's quite sad that I've never seen him play.

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Steven and Fred are hoping that in Australia,

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they may find more relaxed attitudes towards their sexuality and a place to meet new people.

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We found them a special surprise in Melbourne to help them out.

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They've come to a tennis club with a twist that should suit them down to the ground.

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I'm Peter Wells, president of the Vic Tennis gay and lesbian tennis group.

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We hire out this venue every Sunday and Monday night.

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We provide a safe environment, an environment where we can speak our mind.

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It's sport, but it's also very social.

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This club caters exclusively for gay and lesbian players, so Steven and Fred should be able to relax.

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But they can't quite believe it.

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-Is it a gay tennis club, then?

-No... It's not. Don't be silly.

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-I don't think it is.

-It's not. There's no such thing. Is there?

-I don't know.

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Yes, there is. In Melbourne, there's something for everyone.

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But one thing Steven isn't used to is the heat.

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It's over 30 degrees on the court.

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It's a bit different from playing in the UK, I'll tell you.

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It's the first time Fred's seen Steven play.

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I'm quite shocked, really, at the level he's at. He's very good.

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It's just nice to watch him, really.

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And though Fred might rather be shopping, he's taking the opportunity to meet new people.

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I moved here from Sydney a year and a half ago. Joining a social club like tennis helped me find friends

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-and, in the end, helped me find my current flatmates.

-Yeah.

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For both of them, this has been a unique and very welcoming experience.

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Well, I didn't think you could play that well.

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So it was a surprise. And it was nice to come to a group where everyone is so friendly.

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It's so friendly, isn't it? I think you surprised yourself coming.

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But Fred can't help thinking of his friends and family back home.

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I'm missing my friends. But that's what this is about.

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I think we've got to embrace that.

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Because it could be the difference between us not staying here and settling in

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or settling in. I think it could be as drastic as that.

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They've had a good time, but it looks like Steven has more convincing to do.

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It's time to bring in the reinforcements.

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Steven's taking Fred to see someone who may be able to 'suade Fred of everything Australia has to offer.

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Steven's brother Brian moved to Melbourne five years ago and is on hand to give some advice.

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Brian brought his family here for a better lifestyle, and he's never looked back.

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So what does he think they should do?

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Look at the positives. Otherwise, you'll start to hate it and start to...

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You can start to find problems, you know...

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My view is... Just do it, it's great.

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If Brian can't convince Fred, his daughter Anna has a go.

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She was 12 when the family emigrated.

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Here, you find that you miss your family and stuff.

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But then when you go back after like a year or something,

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everything seems so small, and it's just like, "Oh my God, I can't believe I lived here."

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Australia is so different, in a better way.

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Yeah. And I know Fred's sort of sitting on the fence, in a way.

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He doesn't know which way he's going to go. But you've got to make that decision and go for it 100%.

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I think it's important that you... If one says yes and one says no,

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you're really at a bad start.

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So if it's half and half yes and no, I think you should just both say no and go home.

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A sobering thought from Steven's brother, but Fred is remaining as noncommittal as ever.

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Australia is a nice place, but it's sort of not around your home comforts.

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-Like your family?

-Yeah.

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The McEvoys have been piling on the pressure, but it leaves Fred missing his family even more.

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Brian is your brother and they're their children, so...

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I mean, don't get me wrong, they've been very hospitable and...

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-But they're not your family.

-No, they're not my immediate family, are they?

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ALL: Bye!

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Meeting family has given them both food for thought.

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It's time to vote on the social scene in Australia.

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So for the social side, friends here in Australia or friends at home,

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we're going to vote for...

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-..Australia.

-UK.

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-Why?

-Because it takes me a long time to make new friends, so...

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I'm not going to make them within a day.

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Australia is a long way from home.

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And if you have a large, close family like Fred, it's very difficult to say goodbye.

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But if he's serious about making the move,

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he has to face up to the pain of leaving loved ones behind.

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We've prepared some messages from their friends and family back in the UK.

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Hi, Fred and Steven. Hope you're having a good time.

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-Hello, Steven and Fred.

-Steven and Fred...

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They get on very well. Really well.

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-Fred can be a lunatic.

-SHE LAUGHS

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My and Fred's relationship is quite...

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I don't know, we're quite close, with him being gay as well.

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I think we've got a lot more in common.

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We are really proud of him. We're proud of what he's achieved,

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we're proud of how he's grown up to be a young man,

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and...to us, that means everything.

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Steven is a lot calmer than Fred. Steven is more sensible-headed

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and level-headed than Fred.

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Steven is a very caring person.

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He thinks of everybody else sometimes and not himself.

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He thinks about what he says to you. He's always polite in that respect, isn't he?

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He's... He's a lovely man, he really is.

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His dad would have been made up to think he was a...you know, he'd made it as a teacher.

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So I think he's not only like a partner for Fred,

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he's like sort of a role model to look up to.

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He's achieved so much in his life,

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and he's actually where he wants to be in his life. Not many people can actually say that.

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It might be for them, it mightn't be for them.

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But you don't know till you try, do you really?

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I won't last much longer, so they may as well enjoy life while they're young.

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It's not like he's gone forever. There's always going to be holidays and stuff,

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and I can go over to see him and he can come over and see me

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and we'll be talking on the phone and...

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He is like my best mate. I really don't want to lose him.

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I will never be able to go to see him, because I can't fly.

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So I would have to wait till he came home.

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We wish you all the best. Hope you make a good go of it.

0:38:590:39:03

-And if you're happy, we're happy.

-And best of it all, take care of each other.

0:39:030:39:07

We'll miss you loads. I don't know how you're going to get back, if you decide to stay,

0:39:070:39:11

to do my mother's cleaning. It looks like I've got to take over.

0:39:110:39:15

Whatever decision you make, Steven, whatever decision you make, Fred.

0:39:150:39:19

I think that'd be the hardest thing, not actually seeing them.

0:39:190:39:22

You shouldn't have said that. Are we finished?

0:39:250:39:30

Seeing his loved ones has brought Fred to breaking point.

0:39:350:39:38

Where does this leave Steven's dream?

0:39:380:39:41

He's bound to be upset seeing the family like that, and I think...

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He's been like that for the last few days anyway, but...

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I must admit I was... I was starting to well up myself.

0:39:520:39:58

-I don't get emotional normally.

-No, I'm the whingeing one.

0:39:580:40:03

-You're the cryer, aren't you?

-Yeah.

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It's made me think twice. With having so many brothers and sisters, it's just like...

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Whenever you need someone, someone's always there.

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Cos blood's thicker than water. So they're like your best friends, all of them.

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There's things that we're going to miss in the UK.

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-I think we accepted that when we got on the plane, didn't we?

-Mm.

0:40:270:40:30

We're going to leave things behind. But we can't take them with us.

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It's always difficult leaving loved ones behind.

0:40:410:40:45

And Steven and Fred seem even more divided than ever.

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They've had an intense week, and it's nearly time to make their final decision.

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Steven's always been the one pushing to move.

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His partner Fred has never been sure.

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It's been a stressful week. It's not been easy.

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The properties were expensive and not up to Fred's exacting standards, especially property two.

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You're having a laugh, aren't you? Look at the state of if. No way. Never in a million years.

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Although the job prospects were good, when it came to realizing

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how expensive the dream could be, it was Steven's turn to be doubtful.

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It just goes to show, I mean, I was convinced everything to me would have been Australia.

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So it's not as black and white as I originally thought.

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When it came to seeing loved ones back home, Fred hit rock bottom.

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I felt, you know, at times like as if I was going to crack.

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But no... I think I've held it together quite well.

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And their time has brought out the differences between them.

0:41:460:41:50

Steven's got one of these attitudes where he doesn't care.

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And he just throws caution to the wind and just does it, you know,

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whereas I'm a little bit more reserved.

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I still think that I've got to persuade Fred.

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I still think that he's got reservations deep down,

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that every now and then, he doesn't let out.

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I think part of him is trying to keep me happy.

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I'm yet to be convinced by Australia.

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It'll take me a while to be able to decide on whether I want to come or go.

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He knows I want to be here so much.

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It's finally time to decide and find out, once and for all, whether they're united or divided.

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It's been a long week. We've come to the final decision, and I'm going to vote for...

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-Australia.

-And I'm going to vote for...

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Australia.

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It's a vote for Australia after all. So what changed Fred's mind?

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Coming here is about a new challenge and a new beginning.

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So I've got to give it a go. I can't not.

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It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that you can't get rid of.

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I'm excited about it. I'm nervous about it, but I'm excited about it.

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And I can't wait to start that journey.

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To Australia.

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Let's hope it works out for both of them.

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