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Convincing your family to move to the other side of the world

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requires a big leap of faith.

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But when you've come within days of moving

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only to back out of your dream,

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the fall-out can be dramatic. And for one family,

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that means facing a huge question.

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Can it ever work second time around?

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The Coes' first attempt to move to New Zealand

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almost ended in disaster.

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It nearly broke our marriage.

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We didn't speak for about six months.

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And could another one re-open old wounds?

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You're not thinking straight.

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-I am.

-No, you're not.

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With so much at stake,

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will they be able to go through with it this time?

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I probably won't see her again.

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It'll be like grieving for a lost daughter.

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I'm sorry.

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New Zealand is almost the same size as the British Isles,

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but has a population that's 15 times smaller - just 4.3 million.

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The resulting open spaces and calmer pace of life

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make New Zealand very attractive

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for Brits seeking a new start.

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But if the dream doesn't work out,

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you can find yourself alone and a long way from home.

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The Coe family have one week to experience

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life in New Zealand before they face a big final choice.

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Whether to stay in the UK or make the move a permanent one.

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It's a decision that affects the whole family.

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After 12,000 miles and a gruelling 24 hours in the air,

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the Coes touch down in Wellington, tired but excited.

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I hope this week we might be able to, you know,

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sort of really be pro-active and really give it a go.

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I'm looking optimistic for a job, and hopefully I'll find something

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and hopefully I'll stay.

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'I feel really ready to go.'

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In the UK, the Coe family hail from Clacton-on-Sea in Essex.

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Sharon and Justin, both aged 46,

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are parents to 21-year-old Samantha,

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18-year-old Ashley

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and Jeremy, who's 14.

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Justin has his own carpentry business

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and Sharon has recently qualified as an accounting technician.

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For years, Justin dreamt of moving his family

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for a better life in New Zealand.

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After some initial reluctance,

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Sharon was soon caught up with the romance of the idea.

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My initial thoughts about moving to New Zealand

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were I was a bit upset about leaving my mum,

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but then it'd become a bit of an adventure

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and I've got into this adventure

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and I just want to be in New Zealand.

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So in 2009, with their bags packed and visas stamped,

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the Coes were all set for a new life in New Zealand

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until Justin dropped a bombshell.

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One morning, I woke up in bed

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and Justin came and sat on the edge of the bed

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and said "I don't want to move to New Zealand."

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That's literally his first words, how he broke it to me

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that he didn't want to go to New Zealand.

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He just sat on the edge of the bed and said, "I don't want to go."

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I was told that there were no employment prospects for me

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because they were only going to employ locals and so on.

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I sort of got cold feet right at the last minute.

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Well, the week before we flew.

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So I cancelled the tickets and decided to stay in the UK.

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It nearly broke our marriage.

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We didn't speak for about six months.

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Since the recession,

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the situation in the UK has been made even worse.

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'Work's been hit and miss.'

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The phone hardly ever rings.

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You know, I can probably count on one hand

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how many times I stay at home as opposed to go to work.

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It's been really, really hard.

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I lost my job last year and we've just literally had no income.

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Coming from a very vibrant family with enough money to cover you,

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We've gone down to having virtually nothing.

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We're living hand to mouth.

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Money comes in and by the end of the month the bank account's empty.

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Now with only a year left on their visa,

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Justin has agreed to give New Zealand one last try.

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This is Sharon's final hope of convincing him

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their future together lies down under.

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I still feel a bit let down.

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I'm still wondering whether or not he's actually going to come out

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and stay with me.

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But it's not only Justin who's in two minds about emigrating.

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Daughter Samantha is at university

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and is not sure if moving is right for her.

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I'm 21, I've got a lot of things here,

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and also education is really important at the moment for me.

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I might not like the universities out there

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It's just quite difficult.

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Sharon and Justin hope New Zealand will give their sons

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a better quality of life,

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especially Ashley, who suffers from autism.

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I'd like the boys to do more sports.

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They don't do many sports here, just sit at home on their computers.

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Whereas in New Zealand, they seem to like the snowboarding.

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I'm hoping to get them into other sports as well,

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which will get them off their backsides and doing something.

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It's a massive decision they face

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that could also decide the future of their marriage.

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In my mind, yes, I'm going and I'm staying.

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My two boys will stay with me.

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For me, it's now or never.

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It's just that choice in life, you know.

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So, it is the last chance.

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Both Sharon and Justin want the best future for their family,

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but the decision of where to spend it has them in turmoil.

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And with their age ruling out the likelihood of another visa,

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this week could well be their last chance to make a choice

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one way or the other.

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The Coes have chosen to visit Wellington.

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As the capital city,

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it's one of the top destinations for Brits moving to New Zealand.

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But that popularity comes at a price.

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Wellington is one of the country's most expensive cities.

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Could the Coes be in for a shock?

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First stop is their home for the week.

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The Coes will be staying in a modern apartment

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in the heart of Wellington.

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Can you get your mother out the boot?

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This looks a bit different.

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Different to what we've got back at home, isn't it?

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Hopefully Justin means different in a good way.

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Oh, this is nice. I like that.

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Well, that's a relief!

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There's an upstairs as well.

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It's a good start.

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Hopefully the bedrooms will help maintain Justin's upbeat approach.

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If this is the best room, it's mine.

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Yeah?

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SHE LAUGHS

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And if not, we're having the upstairs!

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Justin's keeping everyone positive,

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but he does have one slight problem.

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-It's very cold. I don't know where the heating is.

-It's downstairs.

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-Really?

-Yeah.

-It's very cold.

-It's not on.

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LAUGHTER

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That could become a bigger problem if Justin is expecting hot weather.

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They've arrived in the middle of New Zealand's winter.

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Still, he seems to have settled in quickly.

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Sharon, make some tea. I'll be watching TV.

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-No, you make the tea!

-Can we work out how to put the heating on?

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Thought I'd come to a semi-tropical island.

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It's really cold here, isn't it?

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And it's not just the apartment that's left Justin cold.

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I would say, from what I've seen,

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it's not quite what it is on the postcards or the internet.

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It does look a little bit run-down to me.

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For a capital city, I'm very surprised at that.

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And Justin's worries has got Sharon concerned.

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It's playing on my mind quite a lot that he might not want to stay here.

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I really want to stay here.

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In the UK, the Coe family have a four-bedroom detached house

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in the seaside town of Clacton-on-Sea.

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It's on the market for £185,000.

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They've got strong ideas of what they want from their ideal home.

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I guess my dream house would be a property that looks over a lake

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or over the sea, because I've always lived near the water

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and I think a changing view is fantastic.

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The ideal house I'd like is I wouldn't want one

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that's right in the town centre.

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I'd like something slightly out in the suburbs.

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It's got to have enough bedrooms,

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because my boys like their own rooms.

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Just one with a bit more space.

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We've arranged to give The Coes

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a taste of Wellington's housing market.

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We'll show them three typical options

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based upon what they want from their ideal home,

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what they can afford

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and the real cost of property down under

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After seeing what's on offer,

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we'll reveal to them just how much each house costs.

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First stop is the Paraparaumu area.

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A 45 minute drive from central Wellington,

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it's close to the beach and popular with families

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who want to be away from the bustle of the city.

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With four bedrooms, this house should offer them plenty of space.

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If they can get inside it.

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This must be the way in. Can't be, can it?

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Yep, that's the way in.

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Well if it is, it's a climb round, isn't it?

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Justin is quick to spot

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why the house has such an odd layout.

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They've cut this off. They've created a new driveway to the back.

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-That's why there's not much of an entrance.

-Yeah.

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Not the best start.

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Let's have a look through here.

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Sharon, come and look in here.

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Sharon hasn't exactly fallen for the decor.

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It needs a different paint up there. I don't like the pink.

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I think it needs a pull-down actually, then a paint.

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Justin is struggling to see the potential in this house.

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At first I thought this was a do-up,

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but with people actually living in it.

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It's quite surprising, because I wouldn't live like this. Would you?

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No.

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As a family of five, the Coes really need a home with plenty of room,

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one thing this house can offer.

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The nice thing about here

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-is the space you've got.

-I like the view.

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There rooms, you can actually stride in.

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You are such a funny man!

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Is Justin starting to like this house?

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-Have a look upstairs, shall we?

-Yep.

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One floor up, there's a big plus for Sharon.

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-Fantastic views.

-Yeah.

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It reminds me so much of Clacton.

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-No, it doesn't.

-No, that's true. It doesn't.

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And there's a dream feature for Justin too. Well, sort of.

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I've always wanted to put that into a house.

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-A laundry chute?

-Yeah.

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-That saves a lot of time.

-Doesn't it?

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-That's brilliant.

-Straight into the washing machine.

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The house is sold. Just with that, it's fantastic.

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Despite all the space, the views and the extras,

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this house is missing one important thing for the Coes.

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There's no garden. It's just, you know...

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-Just that little bit at the very back.

-Yeah, nothing at all.

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If you look, a lot of work to the exterior of the property.

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Mm.

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That's why you have carpenters.

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Oh, thanks - more work(!)

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The children have also had a look round.

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-Could you see yourself living here?

-No.

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Well, that's that sorted.

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The house hasn't won them over,

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but what about its cost? With New Zealand property prices

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having risen so much in recent years,

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can they even afford it?

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£194,000

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or 380,000

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-is sort of almost at the top of the budget.

-Yeah.

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I would definitely want a garden

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if I was paying that kind of money.

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It makes me think that although this is a much larger house,

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my little house is nicer

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because it's all done up and how we want it.

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-And you can get through the front door.

-Yeah.

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It's a set back for Sharon.

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Convincing Justin to leave Essex

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will be even tougher if this is all they can afford.

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Perhaps this second house will fair better. It's in the Paremata area,

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15 miles from central Wellington,

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which means easy access to work for Sharon and Justin.

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And with four bedrooms, there should be plenty of space

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and hopefully a better build quality for Justin...

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Looks like it's made of plywood.

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..or not.

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Inside though, it's a very different story.

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-This is much cosier.

-Wow, lovely.

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This is beautiful. Not in our price range though, is it?

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Better go and find some more money then.

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Yeah. Got to work harder, haven't I?

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It's got a more cosy feeling to it.

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That's the log fire, mate.

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This really is a dream home.

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This house is an instant hit

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and it's certainly bigger than they're used to.

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-Wow.

-Look at the size of this room. Unbelievable, isn't it?

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-That's as big as Jeremy's bedroom!

-Exactly.

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Even the views are bigger.

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-Oh, look at this.

-Wow.

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You'd have to take up yodelling for a living.

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Look at that. It's snowing like in the Swiss Alps.

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I don't' want it to stay though, I want warm weather.

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Despite the chill, this house has left Justin and Sharon

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with a warm glow.

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And the children seem to have had a change of heart too.

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I think it's quite nice. I just love how it looks

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and the feeling you get from it.

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-We love it.

-It's amazing!

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The house looks like a genuine dream for the Coes.

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But is it within their budget, or will it remain just that?

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-How much is it?

-A million quid.

-No, it's not!

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No. £330,000.

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That's still out of your price range.

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I just think it is within our grasp if we both work hard.

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We do work hard and I think we can still achieve this.

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You're not thinking straight, you know.

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-I am.

-No, you're not.

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I'm sorry, you're just looking at it with, you know...

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Because this is what you want.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but it's not going to happen.

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Ouch! It's not just the weather that's turned frosty.

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We'd better move on to the next property pretty sharpish.

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The third house is in the coastal village of Raumati South.

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It's an ideal area to enjoy New Zealand's sea and countryside,

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but will the Coes be won over by the house, if not the weather?

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It's good to come inside.

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-It's freezing.

-What weather!

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The big, open plan living area would give them plenty of space.

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It's got views that Sharon loves, but it does need some TLC.

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This has got a nice view, from this room.

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It's not a bad sized room. This property is a little bit closer to the city,

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-which is a good thing.

-Yeah.

-Again, it needs work.

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That's the thing.

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The layout could be another problem.

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-It's not a very practical house, is it?

-No.

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Think how far you've got to carry everything.

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Then, if you had this as a living room, you'd walk for miles to get your dinner.

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It's not a bad property. I think the gardens are nice.

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It's got a lot of ground. Whereas, the others haven't had quite as much ground.

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Again, the glass is half full for Sharon

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but will the price of this house come as a sobering surprise?

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£235,000...

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-You would have to spend a good £50,000...

-To bring it up, yeah.

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To bring it up to standard.

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That means, all in, this house could end up £100,000 over their budget.

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It's been a tough day.

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The first house fell well short of their expectations.

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They all loved the second, but the cost left them divided.

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And the third property needed far too much work for the money.

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So, how will they vote?

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Based on the properties that we've looked at today, our vote goes to...

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-England.

-New Zealand!

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-What you do that for?

-There was one nice house

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but you've got to look at all the others that we looked at.

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I think the New Zealand properties are better.

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So, you all went... Well, Jeremy might be on my side.

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He's sick and tired of living in a cupboard!

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If Justin really can't see himself in a New Zealand house,

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could it spell the end of Sharon's dream?

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Seeing property in Wellington has left Justin and Sharon poles apart

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about moving their family to New Zealand.

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One thing is certain, if neither of them can find good work prospects,

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affording a house they like will be a big struggle.

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Back home Justin runs his own carpentry business

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but in New Zealand he'd have to be employed for two years

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before he can set up on his own.

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He wants to be certain of a job if he's to move down under.

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Originally when we looked to emigrating to New Zealand

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there were good business opportunities for me, out there

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and a good lifestyle for the family.

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Since the recession, that's hit the construction industry very hard

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so it means those opportunities no longer exist for me, or I don't believe that they do.

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Sharon lost her job as an accounting technician during the recession,

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leaving the Coes struggling to make ends meet.

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She's hoping New Zealand will offer better.

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By the looks of it, prospects are a lot better for me out there, than they are here.

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On this trip I am looking for a job.

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If I find one, then I'll stay.

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We've arranged for Justin to spend the day with a local building company.

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Paul Winstanley emigrated from the UK and now runs a thriving renovation business.

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He's quick to address Justin's big worry.

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Would you say there's a plentiful supply of skilled tradesmen to call on here?

1:04:181:04:22

No, I think there's a huge shortage of skills in New Zealand

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and we've got a massive housing shortage looming.

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Going forward, there's going to be massive demand for qualified people.

1:04:281:04:34

That's ideal news, but only if Justin can handle being an employee rather than the boss.

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To find out, Paul puts him to work with head carpenter, Dave.

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-We'll get you into some routering.

-OK, then, so that's your router there?

-Yes, it's here.

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Dave's keeping a close eye on him,

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but Justin seems to be coping very well.

1:04:551:04:57

Across town, Sharon is heading to check on her job prospects.

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Having put family ahead of a career, for her getting work down under

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means more than earning a decent salary.

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I've brought up the kids and done all that sort of thing for now.

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Now I want a career of my own. It isn't just about the money, no,

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it's more to do with I want something that I can find,

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that I enjoy and can get my teeth into and progress to a higher level.

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She's meeting recruitment agent, Sharlene Yule,

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but will she have good news?

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Actually, the market's very buoyant.

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There's a lot of work on.

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I see you've got your accounting technician qualification.

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That's recognised here in New Zealand. What you've got, in terms of your skills and experience,

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you can hit the ground running, in terms of work.

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That's promising, but what about the pay?

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The range here in Wellington can be anything between 55,000 and 65,000.

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Which is about 27 to £32,000, which is a lot more than I expected.

1:05:511:05:57

Well, you've got good skills and good experience,

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-you want to be recognised for those.

-Thank you.

1:05:591:06:02

Good accounts people are really difficult to find.

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This is all music to Sharon's ears.

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There's plenty of work and she could earn more than her and Justin's combined UK salary.

1:06:091:06:14

That was brilliant because I think I could get myself a job in New Zealand.

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I think I'm staying.

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I'm not sure Sharon will take "no" for an answer now.

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After a day getting back to basics, the pressure is on Justin to enjoy working in New Zealand.

1:06:231:06:30

-He has some important questions.

-What sort of money would a tradesman get out here?

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Depending on age and experience, we would offer between 18 and 25.

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-That's an hour.

-That's between ten and £12.50 an hour.

1:06:391:06:44

Yes, it's about that.

1:06:441:06:46

-Are you advertising for anyone at the moment?

-Yes, we are.

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We've got a huge volume of work to do. We're booked up till March at the moment.

1:06:511:06:57

-Work books right into next year?

-Yeah, it is.

1:06:571:07:00

There's no shortage of work coming in at the moment.

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That's more good news, but will the promise of work and a bigger salary

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compensate Justin for leaving behind everything he's built up at home?

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Do I carry on in my own business or do I come out here and start working for somebody?

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That's something I'd find difficult to adjust to.

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So which way will he vote?

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UK.

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And I think I can guess which way Sharon is going to vote.

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New Zealand!

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No surprises there, then.

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It looks like they've got a lot to talk about back at the apartment.

1:07:391:07:43

-Well, how did you get on?

-Really good.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

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We're staying here.

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-Oh, that's not so good, then, is it?

-Yes, it's brilliant!

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-I reckon I'll get a job, easy.

-That's quite promising, isn't it?

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-Knowing I can get work, we've got to move here.

-We'll have to discuss that...

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It's going to be hard for me to wrench myself away from the UK.

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But it's not all about me, is it? It's about the family as well.

1:08:131:08:17

-No, that's it.

-Yeah.

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We'll see how we go, then.

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But if the weather's like this, I'm not moving out here!

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Even though there's work for both of them in New Zealand,

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Sharon and Justin don't seem any closer to a decision on their future.

1:08:281:08:33

Sharon seems more certain than ever about making the move.

1:08:331:08:38

The job situation looks pretty good, whereas the UK, it's very bad at the moment.

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I think we could have a nice life here.

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I think, probably, everything she's done has been for the children.

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A lot of the boxes she's ticking, you know, seem to be right.

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Maybe I am wrong.

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Sometimes you're being forced into a corner, that you don't want to be in

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and, erm...

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In some ways it's a little bit my fault because it was my original idea.

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If Sharon decided to move out here and, obviously, she'll take all the family and so on.

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Well, could I leave all my family and be the only one in the UK?

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I'd have to make a sacrifice.

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The pressure is really mounting on Justin,

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but he's not the only member of the Coe family

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who is uncertain about their future.

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For Samantha, moving to New Zealand would mean leaving behind her boyfriend and her university course.

1:09:381:09:45

Samantha's visiting Victoria University to see what it has to offer.

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She's studying photography, so students Matt and Sally give her a tour of the college.

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-So, do you have a gallery like this on your campus?

-No.

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We have a very small one.

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The surroundings may be impressive but with such a sacrifice to make

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she needs to be certain that life in New Zealand will be right for her.

1:10:101:10:15

What's it like being a student in Wellington?

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The city, itself, Wellington.

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It's a great city, there's a lot going on, especially in terms of culture and the arts.

1:10:201:10:24

I really enjoy the university, there are great resources.

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The lecturers in our history department are fantastic.

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What do you think about moving from a large country like the UK to a small one like New Zealand,

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is that an advantage or a disadvantage?

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I like smaller places, I always get lost in London.

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I must admit, the idea that we're the same size, geographically, as the UK

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-but you have, what, 11 million?

-I think it's 60 million.

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That idea to me is mad. We have, what, four?

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Because it's a small city, there's a real community feel.

1:10:531:10:56

There's a lot of cross-over people... You're interested in photography

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and so your skills could be utilised and you could meet other photographers very easily.

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University life in Wellington sounds promising,

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but with Samantha's boyfriend and close family back in the UK,

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it's going to be a tough choice to leave.

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It's made my decision a lot more difficult.

1:11:161:11:19

If it was... If I didn't like it, it would be easy to go, "I'd rather stay in the UK."

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Now I'm a bit torn.

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Keeping everyone happy with a move is looking increasingly difficult.

1:11:311:11:36

So could the New Zealand lifestyle be the key to finding something the Coes can all agree on?

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In the UK Sharon and Justin worry that their boys spend too much time indoors.

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They're hoping the New Zealand lifestyle will inspire them to get out and get active.

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However, they've arrived in Wellington in the worst winter in over 30 years,

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not ideal for topping up up their tans.

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So they've decided to take the outdoors indoors at a local climbing centre.

1:12:021:12:06

The boys don't seem too keen, but Justin wants them to break out of their old habits.

1:12:061:12:12

The children's normal routine, apart from Samantha, is to play on computer games indoors.

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This gets them out and about.

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It's Jeremy who's up first.

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Yep, left foot up.

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That's your right foot!

1:12:331:12:34

Get those feet up.

1:12:371:12:38

He's scaled the heights, now he's just got to get back down.

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Let go and lean back.

1:12:451:12:46

No!

1:12:461:12:48

Let go and lean back.

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-You're kidding me?

-No.

1:12:501:12:51

I don't want to do that.

1:12:531:12:55

I haven't seen Ashley do anything like this since High School.

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Jeremy, I haven't seen him do anything like this, ever.

1:12:581:13:01

He's not really an outside, active person.

1:13:011:13:04

It's great.

1:13:041:13:06

-Go on, Ashley, she's closing in.

-Go on, Ash.

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Go up, Ashley. Come on, next step.

1:13:091:13:11

Ashley! Get up there!

1:13:131:13:15

I think the kids have been having a lot of fun.

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The first time in a long time, I've seen them get out and do something.

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I think they're really enjoying it.

1:13:221:13:26

It's not all about the kids, Justin!

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Oh, no!

1:13:281:13:30

Come on, fatty!

1:13:301:13:32

You stop insulting me.

1:13:321:13:34

No, go right.

1:13:341:13:36

LAUGHTER

1:13:361:13:38

Oh, oh, oh...

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Stop fooling around, stop fooling around.

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I'm not, you're not doing it properly.

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Oh! I'm upside down!

1:13:451:13:48

I'm not entirely sure if Sharon holding the ropes for Justin is the best idea

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but is it the kind of activity they're looking for?

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If we moved to New Zealand, we'd still have to drag them, from their computers

1:13:551:13:59

but I think they'd more readily go out and do a bit more.

1:13:591:14:03

It's amazing to see the two boys really getting into things.

1:14:031:14:07

They were a bit, "We don't want to come," and now they don't want to go away.

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The bad weather stopped the Coes from sampling New Zealand's great outdoors,

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but did it put a dampener on their spirits? How will they vote on the lifestyle down under?

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Based on the lifestyle between New Zealand and the UK,

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our vote goes to...

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ALL: UK.

1:14:331:14:35

It's an almost unanimous vote against New Zealand.

1:14:351:14:38

At least the Coes can agree on something!

1:14:381:14:42

Well, that's a surprise, isn't it? Why the UK for the lifestyle?

1:14:421:14:45

Because it's freezing here and we haven't managed to do much on the lifestyle.

1:14:451:14:49

I'm with you. OK.

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We haven't been able to get out and we've done exactly what we'd do in the UK,

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stayed indoors because it's been pouring down with rain and snow.

1:14:551:14:58

For once I'm not the odd one out.

1:14:581:15:00

I've nearly won. We're nearly there.

1:15:001:15:04

The New Zealand lifestyle had the Coes singing from the same hymn sheet.

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After arriving during the worst winter in decades,

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it was a very cold and soggy one.

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So with the lifestyle dampening their hopes,

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could seeing the real cost of moving drown them for good?

1:15:221:15:26

Back in the UK, the Coes have their house on the market for £185,000.

1:15:271:15:33

We've sent round a couple of estate agents to get their opinion.

1:15:331:15:37

If they can't get the right price, renting could be an option, until values rise.

1:15:371:15:41

A good sized study area, right by the front entrance hall.

1:15:461:15:49

I wish we'd tidied it up a bit!

1:15:491:15:51

LAUGHTER

1:15:511:15:52

That's a nice sized lounge.

1:15:571:15:58

A very good sized master bedroom.

1:16:041:16:07

Another reasonably sized single bedroom. Very good.

1:16:081:16:12

I left your sun bed out, sorry about that.

1:16:131:16:16

For the current market conditions,

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I would estimate the property will be worth around £175,000.

1:16:191:16:23

For a quick sale, I would estimate the owners would have to take between 165 to 170,000.

1:16:231:16:29

For the current rental market, I'd estimate the property would achieve, £750 to £775 per calendar month.

1:16:311:16:37

For a quick sale, it'd need to be in the low 170s.

1:16:371:16:40

There's a number of similar properties in the local area

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ranging from 150, 160,000 upwards.

1:16:431:16:46

That could be £15,000 lower than the Coes have got it on for.

1:16:481:16:53

I don't think selling it in the present market is an option for us.

1:16:531:16:57

No, we'll just rent it out until the market recovers.

1:16:571:17:03

I think that'll probably be the best option.

1:17:031:17:07

Then, of course, we've still got a home to go back to.

1:17:071:17:11

That sounds like a distinct lack of commitment!

1:17:111:17:15

Maybe the cost of living will make Justin think otherwise.

1:17:151:17:19

We've prepared some figures to show them how far their money would go in New Zealand compared to the UK.

1:17:201:17:25

Main income before tax, would be my income

1:17:251:17:30

and you're talking between 55 and 60,000,

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which is £27,933.

1:17:361:17:39

In New Zealand, it looks like we'd be earning £17,000 more than we earn in the UK,

1:17:401:17:48

-which is quite a difference, isn't it?

-It is.

-Yeah.

1:17:481:17:51

So we've got £3,275 of income. Yeah?

1:17:511:17:55

But your outgoings are 3,679.

1:17:581:18:02

According to these figures... OK?

1:18:041:18:06

-You're not earning enough in the UK for everything.

-No. you're right.

1:18:061:18:11

We can't afford to live in the UK,

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and if you got a better salary, let's say your top rate,

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-then you'd actually have spare money to spend.

-Yeah.

1:18:181:18:21

Now it's all down on paper, we can see where our money's going.

1:18:211:18:25

I've been cutting the shopping and that's why there isn't much food.

1:18:251:18:28

-There isn't the money to buy it.

-That why we've been eating beans.

1:18:281:18:32

Clearly, the Coes could be better off in New Zealand.

1:18:321:18:36

Will that finally convince Justin?

1:18:361:18:38

Based on the cost of living in New Zealand to the UK, our vote goes to...

1:18:381:18:43

BOTH: New Zealand.

1:18:461:18:47

I'm pleased you did that one.

1:18:501:18:53

Well, it's a lot cheaper to live out here than in the UK.

1:18:531:18:56

-It is.

-So you'd have a much better lifestyle and you'd have money to spend on leisure activities.

1:18:561:19:01

At the moment our joint income in the UK can't sustain our living costs.

1:19:011:19:07

We don't have an extravagant lifestyle, it's a basic lifestyle.

1:19:071:19:11

In New Zealand, we could afford to live.

1:19:131:19:15

Well, that's great news for Sharon, and with things looking tougher at home,

1:19:211:19:25

perhaps New Zealand isn't as much of a risk as Justin thought.

1:19:251:19:30

Will seeing messages from home swing their votes yet another way?

1:19:301:19:35

Come on, Ash.

1:19:351:19:38

-Shall we watch this, then?

-Yes.

1:19:381:19:41

Sharon is kind, caring...

1:19:411:19:43

Very generous.

1:19:451:19:46

To be honest, she's always there for you.

1:19:461:19:48

Justin, I'd say...

1:19:481:19:51

He's quite a joker, isn't he?

1:19:511:19:54

They're a good laugh.

1:19:541:19:57

Our Aunty Sharon would drop everything to come and help us.

1:19:571:20:03

She's quite an unselfish, caring sort of girl,

1:20:031:20:07

spoils everybody around her and always treats everybody.

1:20:091:20:13

It's a possibility that Sam would want to live in New Zealand,

1:20:131:20:16

but obviously I'm going to miss her.

1:20:161:20:20

I said she should go and do what's right for her.

1:20:201:20:23

-Sharon's always been very close to her mother.

-Yeah.

1:20:231:20:25

I'm very surprised that she has decided to do this.

1:20:251:20:37

I think she will miss her mother perhaps more than she realises.

1:20:321:20:37

If I had my way, she wouldn't go.

1:20:371:20:40

Like I say, it's her dream.

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And...

1:20:431:20:45

Don't get upset.

1:20:491:20:51

It's her dream, but I will miss her something chronic.

1:20:521:20:56

I probably won't see her again, once she goes.

1:20:561:20:59

It'll be like grieving for a lost daughter.

1:21:061:21:09

Well, the boys, as well. Justin...

1:21:111:21:15

No, to me it'll be a big loss.

1:21:171:21:20

You know that we're missing you already and, although it's only been a short while,

1:21:221:21:26

it feels like you could be out there forever,

1:21:261:21:31

and, you know, we'll miss you.

1:21:311:21:34

Don't get too bowled over by the good life and look at all the aspects.

1:21:361:21:41

If you decide to stay out there, I shall miss you really terribly.

1:21:431:21:48

Whatever you do, look after my boys...

1:21:481:21:51

I can't...

1:21:531:21:55

I think the problem is, it's almost like we're going to die. It's like a bereavement for them.

1:21:591:22:04

If you don't give it a go, the regrets will be there for the rest of your life.

1:22:041:22:08

All those messages are, Sharon wants, Sharon wants. It's everything that you want in life.

1:22:081:22:14

-And, maybe not what all of us want in life.

-Yeah.

1:22:141:22:17

I've lived your life, you've had your career.

1:22:201:22:23

You've done everything you've wanted to do.

1:22:231:22:26

And now you've got to give a little way and let me have some.

1:22:261:22:30

We've come so far down the line, that we've got to give it a go

1:22:301:22:35

and see if this is what we want.

1:22:351:22:38

Saying goodbye to loved ones is never easy,

1:22:381:22:41

but after their week in New Zealand, the Coes' crucial vote hangs in the balance.

1:22:411:22:47

What's clear is making their final decision means facing their past

1:22:471:22:51

as well as their future.

1:22:511:22:54

It's been a long week for the Coes.

1:22:541:22:57

New Zealand houses and weather left Justin cold,

1:22:571:22:59

Sharon's work outlook was definitely far warmer

1:22:591:23:03

and they had some much needed family time together.

1:23:031:23:07

Now, as they face the final vote, the outcome is far from certain.

1:23:071:23:12

It was my idea in the beginning and I wish I didn't have these ideas sometimes.

1:23:161:23:21

I said, at the beginning of the week, it's going to be a make or break situation.

1:23:211:23:25

Maybe I'm the one who's breaking it and that's not fair on Sharon.

1:23:251:23:30

I have been here before.

1:23:321:23:33

Justin does keep chopping and changing his mind,

1:23:331:23:36

but I think this time I can win.

1:23:361:23:38

If Sharon and myself are still split after the vote, where do we go?

1:23:391:23:43

I think...I'd like to sit down with her

1:23:431:23:48

and have a good conversation

1:23:481:23:51

and weigh up the pros and cons and see how we go forwards,

1:23:511:23:55

not only with this decision, but our relationship.

1:23:551:23:58

I really don't know what's going to happen in the end.

1:23:581:24:03

Mum's very stubborn, but I think Dad normally relents,

1:24:031:24:06

but I don't think he'll relent on this. I really don't know.

1:24:061:24:09

With so much on the line, it really is a life changing decision.

1:24:101:24:15

How will they vote?

1:24:151:24:17

Our final votes goes to...

1:24:191:24:21

-New Zealand.

-Undecided.

-UK.

1:24:281:24:30

You're still in the minority.

1:24:321:24:34

-You've got an undecided, two undecides.

-And two for New Zealand.

1:24:341:24:39

-You two are coming over here.

-It looks like two of us are.

1:24:391:24:41

It's been difficult. I nearly went for New Zealand just to keep the peace,

1:24:431:24:47

but I had to vote honestly and say where I'd like to live

1:24:471:24:51

and spend the rest of my days.

1:24:511:24:53

I think it'll be the good old UK.

1:24:531:24:55

As it stands, it looks like me and my eldest son are coming to New Zealand.

1:24:571:25:02

It was a tough week for the Coes.

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Their experiences of New Zealand left them divided and uncertain where their future lies.

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A month later and they're back in Clacton

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and I've come to find out if Justin and Sharon are any closer

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to agreeing what's best for their family.

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Last time we saw her, Sharon was dead set on moving to New Zealand, with or without Justin.

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You haven't changed your mind at all?

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No, I haven't. I still want to live in New Zealand.

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What about the rest of the family? You've got to be honest now.

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My eldest son will come with me, because he loves it as well.

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My youngest one is swaying more to stay in New Zealand,

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because he's seen the lifestyle he can have there.

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What about Samantha?

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She's still half and half. It's the university more than anything else.

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There's a very important member of the family you haven't mentioned.

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Justin... You obviously love him to bits.

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In an ideal world, you don't want to be making that journey without him by your side.

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If I went out to New Zealand and got a good job,

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I think that would convince him.

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Does it scare you to think you're going to be moving that distance?

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I am absolutely terrified to move that distance away,

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but I've really got to try it. If I don't, it'll always be, "What if?"

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It does sound like you're slowly getting there

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although I know you're so keen to return to New Zealand as quick as possible.

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-I'm going to have a word with Justin and hear his thoughts on this possible move.

-Yeah.

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Since voting for the UK, Justin has had a lot to think about.

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It sounds like you're the head in this relationship, she's the heart.

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You're the practical one that thinks about the nuts and bolts.

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For Sharon, she seems to have fallen in love with the whole idea

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of moving to the other side of the world.

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That's fair comment.

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I think she will make it work, whatever happens.

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She wants a different life and to explore the world.

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What's your final decision, or is there one?

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I think it's still up in the air and watch this space and see where we are in a few months' time.

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I think, ultimately, if Sharon moves out there and took the family with her,

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do you really think I'd stay here?

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No, I don't. I really, really don't.

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I think you would follow her out and, I think, that's what she wants in her heart as well.

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Making the decision to move down under is always going to be tough.

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It looks like Justin and Sharon need a little bit more time

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before they make the choice that's right for them.

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We wish them all the very best.

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