Afanasiev Family Wanted Down Under


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Convincing your partner to give up the life they love for a new start

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is no easy matter, especially if it's on the other side of the world.

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But when your dream is based on a distant memory,

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would you be willing to risk your whole future for it?

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If you're desperate to return to the place you love...

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I almost felt my business with Australia wasn't finished.

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..but the dream seems out of your reach...

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It makes me a bit nervous to think

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whether we can afford to live here at all.

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..and leaving your family behind is unbearable...

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Ike and Reuben know I would miss them more than I could ever say.

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Would you be able to give up everything for a new life Down Under?

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With its 30,000 miles of coastline and sunny climate,

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life in Australia has long been a favourite destination

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for Brits dreaming of a new life abroad.

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But when around 10,000 return home each year

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with their dreams in ruins, sometimes a life Down Under

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isn't all it's cracked up to be.

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Over the next seven days,

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the Afanasievs will get to experience

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the reality of living Down Under.

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At the end of it,

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they'll have to face a life-changing decision -

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whether to stay in the UK or to move to Australia.

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They'll be travelling to Sydney. Having been there before,

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they're familiar with the journey, and what a journey it is.

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10,000 miles and 24 hours in the air.

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Landing in the early hours has brought home

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just how far they have come.

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The trip over was quite long.

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Yes, but considering how far it was, it wasn't bad.

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It was a lot better than I thought he was going to be.

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-These guys were really good.

-We were really good.

-You were.

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It's a short journey to their rental property,

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but a long way from home in Newcastle.

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In the UK, the Afanasievs live in this three-bedroom semi.

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There's Louise, Tosh and their two boys, Reuben, who's four,

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and two-year-old Ike.

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Both lived the single life in Australia in their early 20s.

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I lived in Melbourne for a couple of years

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when I was younger, ten years ago.

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I was there in the early '90s when I was 20.

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But life was very different then. I was single, I worked as a baker,

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which meant I worked through the night.

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I had a really great time.

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I went with a friend, who is Australian. She was from Sydney.

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What I saw was the potential for a really fantastic lifestyle.

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When I left, I didn't feel,

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"Oh, I could live here and I can't wait to go back."

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I didn't feel that.

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I almost felt, coming away, my business with Australia wasn't finished yet.

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Several years later, they're now happily married with a young family,

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a lovely home and stable jobs. Before for at least one of them,

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the idea of life Down Under his still very much alive.

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The kids came into our lives,

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and I suddenly wanted to share what I feel about that place

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with them and I wanted to show them a different life.

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But Tosh knows Louise doesn't share his dream

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and needs to be convinced it's the right move.

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Louise has got mixed feelings about the move.

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It's not an outright no. If it was, there wouldn't be a discussion.

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It all comes down to whether she wants to give up

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what we've got here in order to achieve a how much better life?

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For Louise, though, it's not a straightforward decision.

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They'll be risking everything they've worked so hard to achieve.

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If we move there, we're leaving behind family and friends.

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We're taking Reuben out of a fantastic school

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and a lovely house in a lovely neighbourhood.

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Tosh has got a fantastic job here, as well.

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It is leaving that behind, I think, that is the big thing.

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And it is not just the lice are they would be leaving behind.

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They would be making the tough decision to say goodbye to

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Louise's parents.

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We have ten minutes from my parents, who help as a great deal with

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the children, with childcare,

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'even if it's just for an hour or picking up from school and dropping off.

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'It's a big part of this decision. I feel that it's probably

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'the deciding factor, really, when it comes down to it.'

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Yeah. Basically, leaving them behind would be very, very hard.

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If we decide to go.

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With stunning scenery and a buzzing lifestyle,

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Tosh and Louise want to find out if Sydney could be for them.

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They've both visited the city in the past,

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so how will the modern-day version compare with what they remember?

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They'll be staying in the beach town of Avalon,

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north of Central Sydney.

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By the time they reach their base,

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they're eager to see what Australia has to offer.

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Wow!

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Wow!

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-Oh, wow.

-Look at all this!

-This is beautiful.

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This is just right up our street, isn't it? Oh, wow!

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-We've got a big back garden!

-Look at that, you can see the sea!

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This three-bedroom house is right next to the beach, with views to die for.

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-Perfect family entertainment.

-I love the idea of coming out here,

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sitting out here for 20 minutes with a coffee before going to work.

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You wouldn't feel like you were going to work.

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It's amazing. Do they have squatters' rights here?

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But Louise is already having doubts about

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whether they can afford this move.

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I've got very mixed emotions about the week ahead, because you hear

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so many conflicting things about how it's so expensive here now

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and, you know, it's not what it was five years ago.

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It's not so black and white.

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Louise and Tosh have set their hearts on a typical Aussie home -

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open-plan and close to the sea.

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But with Sydney's property prices

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being amongst the highest in the world,

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will they be able to afford the home they want?

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Back in the UK, they Afanasievs live in a three-bedroom semi

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which they bought in 2010. They're not short of a few ideas

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when it comes to their dream house in Australia.

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My ideal house would be very open-plan.

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-We'd have to have a minimum of three bedrooms.

-Indoor-outdoor area.

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-The usual cliches.

-A nice pool.

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Not much, really.

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What we don't want to do is take a step back from where we are now.

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It'd got to be as good as or better than what we have already.

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They could have a budget of around £300,000.

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However, house prices in Sydney average nearly £400,000,

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double what they were ten years ago when Tosh and Louise were last here.

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Will they be able to afford their dream house?

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Today we're going to give them a taste of Sydney's housing market.

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We'll show them three different properties

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based around their budget and what they want from a home.

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Only after they've seen each one will we reveal to Louise and Tosh

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just how much they cost.

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The first property is close to Avalon, but on the High Street.

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Set right amongst the shops and cafes

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and with popular beaches nearby, it should give Tosh and Louise

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the cosmopolitan lifestyle they're after.

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This two-bedroom flat should be a clue

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to just how expensive Sydney is.

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-The location's good.

-Yes, nice and central. Close to cafes.

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It's got a balcony. Obviously, there won't be a garden.

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-Flat says something about the affordability.

-Yes, it does.

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And a flat generally means one thing - stairs.

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Got to go up another flight, Reuben.

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-Nice outside.

-Yeah.

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I wonder what number we'll be at?

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And in this case, lots of them.

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-Hopefully it will be worth the effort.

-Come on, in we go.

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Oh, look, there's a bathroom, Nice, big shower.

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Nice and bright, isn't it? Shall we have a look? It's quite small.

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It is.

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It's nice. Good-sized balcony.

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-I like the fact that it's got the open top.

-Yeah.

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-I really like fair.

-That's nice. Downstairs would be quite enclosed.

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-You get loads of light.

-Yeah.

-I love the view. I really do.

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When we can't afford to eat out, we can watch other people doing it.

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I'm not sure that's something to look forward to, Tosh!

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-Perhaps it's time to go in and look at the bedrooms.

-This is nice.

-Yeah.

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-It s got a balcony as well.

-I think it's lovely.

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It is, but, you know, there is the thing that it's only got two bedrooms, which is fine for us,

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but we are expecting my parents to come and visit.

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It wouldn't be a permanent place, really.

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But it would be a kind of landing pad just to get settled.

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It's one of those things. We need to see how much this goes for.

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It might be, this is kind of it for us,

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-and if that is the case, that is part of the decision.

-Yes.

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Louise and Tosh may only see this flat as a stepping stone to

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something bigger, but they don't know the actual price yet.

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This property only has two bedrooms and no garden for the children.

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Time to find out the price.

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It's not what I envisage us living in in Australia.

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I understand what you're saying about it being a landing pad and stuff,

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but I also don't want be moving around all the time.

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-Wow, £400,000.

-I'm a tiger! Grr!

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Yes, that's... That's quite...

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That's a lot.

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This flat is well over their £300,000 budget

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and it's not even somewhere they'd want to live.

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Louise is already having grave doubts.

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I'm a little bit nervous now to look at the other properties,

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because from the size of this and everything,

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I know it's a central location, but it makes me

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a little bit nervous to think that that's what we're starting off on.

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And whether we can afford to live here at all.

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It's not a good start.

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Tosh's dream of Australia is already looking precarious.

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He really needs the next place to make a better impression on Louise.

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The second property is in the neighbourhood Bilgola.

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It's a quiet, leafy area, and with beaches and parks nearby,

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it does mean it's more suitable for a young family.

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The Afanasievs should get more house for their party...

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..as Tosh is quick to spot.

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It looks like it's got amazing potential.

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It looks quite big, actually. I love the established trees and stuff.

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-That's really good. This is more what had in mind.

-Yeah.

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The house looks amazing. Obviously, it is a bit of a project.

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There's some work to do.

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This three-bedroom house does need some work, but will it put them off?

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Wow, look at this entrance. This could be amazing.

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-This could be cool if you fixed it up.

-I love this big glass thing.

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Wow.

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It seems Louise and Tosh can see the potential.

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-Look at the view out there. That is amazing.

-It's priceless.

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-The balcony's huge.

-You can see the boats from up here.

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However, Louise has one big problem.

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Considering there's so much glass and window, I find it quite dark.

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I know what you're saying, but I think on a really hot day,

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to have all this glass, and if you couldn't sit anywhere

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without the sun streaming in, it might be oppressive,

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-so you'd probably be quite grateful of that.

-Could point, Tosh.

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Unfortunately, the bedrooms are not helping win his case.

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-I think it's too dark. I couldn't live anywhere this dark.

-It's very dark.

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And this is another bedroom. I would say it's quite damp as well.

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-What's that going on there?

-It's like all on the walls as well.

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-Yeah.

-And that balcony seems to have rotted away.

-Eroded.

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It would cost a fortune to put it right, To make it safe for the boys

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to be living in. It would cost a fortune.

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All the stairs, all the railings would have to change.

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-And there's no garden, is there?

-I don't think so.

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This house may be spacious, but it does need plenty of work.

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Will that mean it comes at an affordable price?

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Or is a flat all they can get in their budget?

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-It's time to find out the price.

-I'm intrigued.

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I get a feeling it's one of those ones where it's a bargain

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because of where it is and things and because it's a doer-upper,

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but I get the feeling it's not going to be cheap enough for us.

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-Shall we have a look?

-Go on, then.

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-Hmm. £450,000. I'm quite surprised at that.

-Lower or higher?

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-I thought it would be higher.

-Yeah.

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But then you've got to add on the hundred thousand for renovation, so say 550.

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-But then, obviously, they might take offers.

-They might do.

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Because of the state of it, they might be keen to shift it.

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So you could end up paying £450,000 for it

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-and then it would be...

-Then it's looking different.

-Yeah.

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-Especially when you compare it to 400 for the flat.

-Exactly.

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-Then it's a different story.

-You get a lot of house.

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-I think it's quite a good price.

-I'm quite surprised. It's good.

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I'm not convinced by their maths.

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Even if they could get £100,000 knocked off the price of this property,

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it would still be over their budget of 300,000.

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Are Tosh and Louise being realistic about what they can afford?

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Maybe the third property will make things clearer.

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Like the first, it's in Avalon,

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but this time in a quieter residential part.

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It's architect-designed with three bedrooms, gardens and a pool.

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Could this be the dream house Louise is after?

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Wow! This looks nice, doesn't it?

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Ooh!

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-Garden, nice garden.

-Very nice.

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-I like it. Oh, wow, this is nice, isn't it?

-This is really nice.

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-This is lovely.

-This is really beautiful.

-Yeah, it's lovely.

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This is kind of what you think about, isn't it,

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this kind of open-plan thing.

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Loads of light, it's lovely and open.

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You couldn't get a better location, really. You can see water.

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-First impression, yeah, very nice.

-Very nice.

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Well, so far, so good with this house.

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-They're quite small, but then...

-They're not massive,

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but I suppose the emphasis is not on sitting in your room.

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-This is good, isn't it?

-Oh, yeah, look at that.

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-That's really good. That's really handy, actually.

-Yeah.

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-So you can have two or one.

-Very good.

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Louise seems prepared to overlook the smallish bedrooms.

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-All that's left is the back garden.

-Look at that!

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This is more us, it's more family.

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You've got your outside area both front and back, hasn't it?

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You know, especially with two young boys, that's what you need,

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you don't want to be setting up slides and stuff on balconies,

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so yeah, this I think, practically, for what we need now,

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this ticks all the boxes.

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It's lovely, I love it!

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I'm scared to know how much it's going to be. Probably going to be way out of our reach.

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It's too perfect, isn't it?

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This house has got both Louise and Tosh excited

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but they still don't know the price.

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It has everything they want from Australian living but will it be out of their reach?

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This is going to be a jump from the last one cos the last one

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had a lot of work to be done.

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Um, and this is going to be a big jump from that. Let's find out.

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-Mmm!

-For what you get...

-We can buy it!

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For what you get, I mean, that, really...

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I thought it was going to be a lot more. That's...

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That's very reasonable.

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With the pool and...

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It might be a reasonable price for this house

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but it's nearly £200,000 over they're budget.

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Are Tosh and Louise letting their excitement

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overtake the reality of what they can afford?

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So, the first property was only something Tosh or Louise

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would consider as a stepping stone.

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The second property was too dark and needed too much work.

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The last house was everything they'd hoped for

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but was well above their budget.

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So what's the verdict?

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Can they really see themselves giving up their home in Newcastle?

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OK, we've seen our three properties today,

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it's been really interesting and I think it's time to vote.

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ALL: Australia!

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Australia!

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It's great news for Tosh, he's one step closer to his Australian dream.

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When we came out of the first apartment this morning, I didn't

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think I was going to be voting Australia at this point in time.

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I thought that it was going to be out of our reach.

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In the UK if we looked at houses in that price range

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we wouldn't be able to afford it,

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-so, also this does hinge on what our earning power is here.

-Yeah.

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Everything now rides on the next few days.

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Can Tosh earn enough to make Australia a reality

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or will the move remain a pipe dream?

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Finding out the cost of property in modern day Sydney,

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was an eye-opening experience for the whole family.

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Even so, a vote for Oz has left Tosh feeling optimistic about the move.

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Now the pressure's firmly on his shoulders to find a job

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that pays a lot more than his current salary

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if they're to afford the home they want.

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Back in the UK Tosh works as a computer software developer

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earning around £40,000 a year.

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We've arranged for him to spend a day with a software design

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company in the centre of Sydney.

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Tosh is aware the entire move is riding on what he finds out today.

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Finding the right job is key for this move.

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Back home we've got a good life - a lovely house, I've got a good job,

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so we'd have to see quite a big improvement by moving here.

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Louise works part-time in a shop but will be at home in Australia

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until the children are settled.

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She wants to know that schools here are as good as those back home.

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While Ike is with a childminder,

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she and Reuben are off to check out a local pre-school.

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Go on, in you go. In you go!

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-Hi.

-Hello!

-This is Reuben, I'm Louise, nice to meet you.

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Reuben is it? Hello, you can come in and have a little look around with

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the kids if you like?

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-I'll show mum round as well, eh?

-So how many children do you have?

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-We have 29 a day.

-Yes. Are they here all day?

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Yep, from 9 until 3.

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While Louise carries on with her fact finding,

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Tosh has arrived in the city and is meeting with company director Michael Lam.

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-Hi, Tosh, nice to meet you. Welcome. Welcome to Sydney.

-Thank you.

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Come through we'll go to the back room, meet some team members

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and show you what we do around here.

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Brilliant.

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The company develop a wide range of software

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so it should be a great chance for Tosh to find out

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about the possibility of work in Sydney.

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-Hi guys.

-Morning!

-Mags, this is Tosh.

-Hi Mags.

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Mags is the project manager on Hubblr.

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This is one of our project teams, we have others,

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but it's a project that we're looking to launch fairly soon

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so we've got these guys working on it soon, pushing away.

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Sure.

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If you want to sit down we can, um, have a glass of water

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and you can ask me some questions you might have.

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At the school, Louise is also getting to the important questions.

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Being able to get Reuben and Ike

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into a decent school is crucial to any move.

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-So, what are the fees?

-42 a day.

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-Right.

-If you're coming for the three days it's per day.

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-Is there a waiting list?

-There sure is, it's quite a high demand at the moment -

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quite a long waiting list here.

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And we have a lot of siblings that are here so they often get

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sort of first priority cos the family's already in here.

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Cos that would be my issue, if we suddenly arrived...

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then we'd kind of have to put his name down

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prior to us coming, wouldn't we?

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It would maybe help, if you knew friends in the area or something

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and they could talk to us and we've even had a few people organise it from overseas,

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just calling and getting their name down, saying, we're going

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to be there June can they come in and see you, will there be a spot?

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The problems of getting into a good school are just like those in the UK.

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However, the fees for schooling until the boys are six will mean even more money pressures.

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Back in the city, it's all down to Tosh's work potential.

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Could you see someone like me fitting in the company

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and being a part of it?

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Yeah, I think so.

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I mean, your experience in the Australian marketplace would fit -

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whether it's our company or somewhere else.

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Your experience would probably be relevant to some of the big companies like the banks.

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The banks, I know, are looking for a lot of staff

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in the development database and they've got fairly large IT projects

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so employability shouldn't be an issue if you came to Australia.

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Brilliant. It's good to hear.

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That's promising news, and over at the school,

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Louise is getting into the idea of Aussie education.

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It's really lovely, I'm really impressed. It's a lovely place

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and the children just seem really happy which is the main...

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You know, that says everything.

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We really just try to create a happy and warm environment

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where the kids feel safe and can learn and have fun.

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-They don't want much, they just want to have fun...

-Exactly.

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-..and be with people their own age.

-Yeah.

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We're here to guide them through all of that and have fun with them.

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Tosh, meanwhile, has reached the most important question.

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So with my skills and experience, is there a sort of band you could

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give me for working in Sydney, how much I could expect to earn.

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I think, looking at your CV, I'd say probably 80-90 grand annual salary.

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Brilliant.

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And depending on the type of project,

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it could be slightly more with bonuses etc.

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Fantastic.

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That's nearly £60,000 - 20,000 more than he earns in the UK.

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It's ideal news.

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-Thanks very much for coming in.

-Thanks for your time, Michael.

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-Best of luck with things.

-Brilliant. Thanks very much.

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So how will Tosh vote on work in Australia versus his job in the UK?

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I've met an employer today, I've had a little insight in to how

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they work here in Australia and my industry and now it's time to vote.

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Australia.

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Seems to me that I could earn quite well here.

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In terms of seeing how far it will take us with the cost of living, we've yet to look at that.

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Whether it supports us in a way that we would like to live

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and whether that will mean the improvement on our lifestyle,

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we've still got to work out.

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-Hiya!

-How you doing?

-How did it go?

-Yeah, really good.

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When Tosh and Louise meet up later,

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they're keen to find out the others' news.

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-How was kindy?

-The kindy was great. It's lovely. Rueben loved it.

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He was just interacting with everybody. Yeah, it was really nice.

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-Really nice.

-Ah, brilliant, I'm glad.

-So, how did work go?

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Work was good. He was impressed with the CV. He said I had the right balance of skills.

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-Excellent.

-I also asked him what kind of salary I could expect

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and he said that with my skills and experience,

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I'd be looking at between 80 and 90,000 a year to start.

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-Brilliant.

-It's what we found when looking around.

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-So that was really encouraging.

-Excllent. Yeah, that is good.

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-So we might be able to afford that house after all.

-Maybe!

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Tosh's earning potential is very welcome news,

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and could open the door to affording their dream house.

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But are the family thinking with their hearts

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rather than their heads?

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Perhaps it's time for them to take a reality check.

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Firstly, they need to know how much their UK home is worth.

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So we sent round two estate agents to give us their opinion.

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They bought it in 2010 for £159,000

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and have spent a lot of time modernising it.

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-Shall we find out what's going to happen?

-Yes.

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(Look at our house!)

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It looks like it's been refurbished recently.

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There's a new oven and hob, modern heating system,

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stainless steel sink, dishwasher.

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-It's a good size space.

-Look there's your artwork, Reuben!

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Third bedroom. Ike's room. Perfectly chaotic. Ideal for a little boy.

1:11:011:11:05

Nice, large open-plan dining room and lounge. Really nice.

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-Really nice!

-Really nice! Too right.

-Thank you.

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Oh, no, not the toilet! Don't show people the toilet!

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Great size second bedroom and a very lucky boy with all these toys.

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Nice and bright. Doesn't meet the same standard as the rest of the house but it has potential.

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-All right!

-Easy.

-We haven't got round to that room yet!

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A really pleasant three-bedroomed semi.

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I'd be looking to put the property on the market at 189,950.

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If they're looking for a quicker sale, probably closer to 175.

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Wow, that's...

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It's a fantastic little family home.

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If I was to market that house, I'd market it at £185,000

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and for a quick sale, 179,950.

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-Wow.

-Wow!

-It's not bad, is it?!

-Yeah!

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(SOBS) I want to live in England!

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-Aww, sweetheart!

-I want to live in England!

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-We do!

-We do!

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-You miss your house?

-(CRIES) Yeah.

-Aww, Reuben!

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It's all right, we're going back there next week, aren't we!?

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We're going back there.

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-Do you just get a bit homesick, seeing your house on TV?

-Yeah.

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Don't worry, Reuben.

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Aww, Poor Reuben.

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He might be upset by seeing his house and toys

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but mum and dad are quite happy with what they've heard,

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though they're not getting carried away.

1:12:451:12:48

The two things that concern me are that it's all very well

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getting the house valued, but you've still got to sell it

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and what you sell it for may not be what the estate agent says.

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But still, it's nice to hear.

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The other thing is that the exchange rate, not being what it was.

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That lump doesn't necessarily go as far over here as it might do there.

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-Yeah.

-So there's that to think about too.

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With Tosh's money worries,

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they need to see how far their finances will go.

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So we've prepared a breakdown of their living costs in Australia

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to see if emigrating really is really possible.

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OK, so now we need to see how much the property's going to cost us.

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Right, so that was the flat which we pretty much weren't that...

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Monthly repayments...

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-We couldn't make that payment.

-We'd be paying 3,730.

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-That is what I earn at the moment, a month, in the UK, after tax.

-Yeah.

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-So we couldn't do that.

-Yeah.

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And that's the cheapest of the three even though it's not the one

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we'd really go for.

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-So...

-Yeah.

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And that one, the one that we really loved...

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is far more than we pull in, in a month. We couldn't buy any of those.

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-Yeah.

-We just couldn't.

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-That's a bit rubbish, isn't it?

-Yeah.

1:14:081:14:10

-If we were to buy, it wouldn't be any of those three.

-No.

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On their current income, this move is a non-starter.

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How do things add up based on Tosh's Australian salary?

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So, bringing in all our other lifestyle costs and what we think

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we may be able to earn here, we can see whether or not we can do it.

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-Let's have a look. Let's see if it gets any brighter.

-Right, so...

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Times 12.

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40.

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So that means we are £3,712 worse off a year, here.

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So the question is...

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But that's with the massive £3,735 mortgage.

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-That's with the dream house, with the pool and view.

-Exactly.

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-That's not what we'd be jumping into.

-So, it is very doable.

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I think it's doable.

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It's not a case of "sell your house and move into a mansion"

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but it is a case of "sell your house where we live and move into a house here."

1:15:161:15:22

It's more positive than I thought it was going to be.

1:15:221:15:24

I'm really quite encouraged actually.

1:15:241:15:26

I was expecting a much more grim picture,

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-especially when I saw this figure here, this repayment.

-Yeah.

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The Afanasievs think they could make this move but only if they buy

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a house much smaller than the one they've fallen for.

1:15:361:15:39

Does it mean the move is off or would they consider giving up

1:15:391:15:43

the dream home.

1:15:431:15:44

We've done the reality check.

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We've found some interesting facts and figures. Now it's time to vote.

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BOTH: Australia.

1:15:541:15:56

Brilliant.

1:15:581:15:59

We'll be a little bit worse off but not as worse off as I thought

1:15:591:16:02

and I think what you get in surroundings and environment

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makes up for that loss of money.

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The things you have to buy are more expensive

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and the things you get for free, just much better, I think.

1:16:101:16:14

Even though their ideal house seems out of reach and finances look like

1:16:141:16:19

they'd be stretched, Tosh and Louise have still voted for Australia.

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Despite having to go to plan B on property,

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Louise's enthusiasm for Oz is music to Tosh's ears.

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But what's underpinning all their hopes

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is a better quality of life for the family

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and if money is going to be tight, it's crucial they find out

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if the Aussie lifestyle's for them.

1:16:451:16:47

Louise and Tosh both spent time in Australia before they met.

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But they were living very different lifestyles.

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When I first went to Sydney, 20 years ago, my impression was very different.

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I had a great time but was happy to leave and go back to England, to London.

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I'm now 20 years older than I was and married

1:17:051:17:07

and I've got two young children so what I'm looking for in a place

1:17:071:17:11

is different to what I was looking for 20 years ago.

1:17:111:17:14

20 years ago, I was looking for clubs and bars and parties

1:17:141:17:18

and now I'm looking for nice schools, nice beaches, nice surroundings,

1:17:181:17:25

a nice family-orientated place.

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So, as parents, they need to see what Oz can offer

1:17:271:17:30

for family days out.

1:17:301:17:31

'Today, they're heading to the world famous Taronga Zoo.

1:17:311:17:36

'There should be plenty of chances to get close to the wildlife,

1:17:361:17:39

'one of Reuben's favourite things to do.'

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We're going to go meet some lovely Australian animals.

1:17:421:17:45

Have you got any favourites you'd like to see?

1:17:451:17:48

-Erm, koalas and snakes.

-Koalas and snakes, well, you know what?

1:17:481:17:51

I'm pretty sure I can do something about that for you.

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-Come through here. Come on, kids.

-Let's go and see the animals.

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What's that, eh?

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That is a kangaroo, her name is Koba and she's a Western Grey Kangaroo.

1:18:001:18:05

Oh, look, she's giving him a cuddle.

1:18:051:18:08

'Koba seems to be doing a great job of selling Australia to the children

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'and there's plenty of other animals to keep the boys happy.'

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This is a diamond python.

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Now, before you come close, this snake will kill its prey,

1:18:201:18:24

the food, through what we call constriction.

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-Like a boa constrictor.

-Like a boa.

-Squeezes.

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That's right, that's exactly right.

1:18:301:18:32

-Hey, you're pretty smart, aren't you?

-Yeah.

1:18:321:18:36

-I've got here a very special animal. What is it?

-Koala bear.

-A koala.

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You ready? Here we go.

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Look at it.

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-Isn't she lovely.

-Claws are really impressive, aren't they?

1:18:521:18:56

I told you you're going to see a koala, didn't I?

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-You're pretty lucky.

-Definitely, not many people get to do this.

1:19:011:19:05

'The boys seem happy, even when the weather turns,

1:19:051:19:08

'Ike's enthusiasm isn't dampened.'

1:19:081:19:11

I've given up with Ike. He's soaking.

1:19:111:19:13

D'you want to keep him?

1:19:151:19:17

HE LAUGHS

1:19:171:19:18

Yeah, I think we've got a spare holding cage back there we can pop him into for the day.

1:19:181:19:23

We'll feed him well.

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'Between the animals and the puddles,

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'the day has given the Afanasievs just what they were looking for.'

1:19:281:19:32

'As their trip to the zoo comes to an end,

1:19:331:19:36

'there's a break in the clouds,

1:19:361:19:37

'giving them the chance to spend a bit of time on an Aussie beach.

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'So, after a packed family day out,

1:19:411:19:44

'how will they vote on the lifestyle?'

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We've been to the zoo today so now it's time to vote.

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ALL: Australia.

1:19:561:19:58

-Australia again?

-Just trying to keep you happy.

1:20:001:20:03

No, we had a great morning, the zoo was amazing.

1:20:031:20:06

-There's definitely more for families, I think.

-Yeah.

1:20:061:20:09

'That's another step towards Tosh's dream of Australia.

1:20:091:20:14

'However, there is one big issue that Louise has been putting

1:20:141:20:17

'to the back of her mind.'

1:20:171:20:18

I haven't forgotten all of that in the UK, you know,

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I haven't forgotten about not having my parents here.

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Which, you know, is and still is the issue for me.

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Now it's THE only issue.

1:20:311:20:33

Whereas before it was the big issue plus there was other things

1:20:331:20:37

but now that's the only thing.

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We've obviously got to deal with that issue

1:20:391:20:41

and think about leaving them behind and for the boys and for me.

1:20:411:20:47

Sampling the lifestyle has shown the family what

1:20:511:20:54

they can gain in Australia.

1:20:541:20:56

They also know what they stand to lose.

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Everything now rests on their reaction of seeing messages

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from friends and family back home.

1:21:031:21:05

'For Louise, leaving loved ones has always been the toughest obstacle to moving.'

1:21:081:21:13

It hasn't really been something I thought about this week

1:21:131:21:17

because it is just a week out here

1:21:171:21:19

but when I do stop to think about it, I do get quite upset.

1:21:191:21:24

Especially now knowing a little bit more

1:21:261:21:29

about how I feel about Australia.

1:21:291:21:31

It's even more upsetting.

1:21:311:21:34

I haven't even put the DVD on and I'm welling up.

1:21:341:21:37

'It could be an emotional experience but Tosh and Louise want to watch it together with the children.'

1:21:371:21:43

Hello, Louise, Tosh and the boys, Ike and Reuben.

1:21:451:21:50

Lou's my soulmate, actually.

1:21:501:21:53

We go back to school days, I'll miss her terribly.

1:21:531:21:58

She's just a lovely daughter.

1:21:581:22:01

We do have our moments but we get on better now

1:22:011:22:05

than when she was in her teens.

1:22:051:22:06

Well, you know, one part of your heart drops,

1:22:061:22:10

the other one thinks, "Well, they know what they're doing."

1:22:101:22:13

Even Newcastle feels like the other end of the world

1:22:131:22:18

and that's just a four-hour drive from where we live.

1:22:181:22:22

It is going to be quite upsetting thinking that

1:22:221:22:24

to go and see Tosh and Lou is going to be quite a big haul to get

1:22:241:22:28

the five of us out there.

1:22:281:22:30

I know you're in Australia now and you're trying to decide whether to stay or not,

1:22:301:22:34

but the last thing I want is for you to worry about

1:22:341:22:37

what's going to happen to us.

1:22:371:22:39

I would prefer you to think about your life.

1:22:391:22:43

We have had our life, and if you're happy

1:22:431:22:46

and you think it's going to be a better life for the boys,

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you've got our blessing and we hope that you'll really enjoy it.

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We won't, we won't stand in your way,

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you know that, we would miss you but if you want to go, you go.

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It's your life and we want you to do well.

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I'm behind you, absolutely behind you

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but I have to say that I'll miss you guys so much.

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Don't worry about me.

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Just do whatever you want to do.

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Follow your instincts as you always have

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and you've pretty well always been right. So, carry on.

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Ike and Reuben know I would miss them more than I would ever say

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but they know I'm always here.

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I don't want them not to decide to go because of me.

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I would like you to make your mind up what you want to do

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and know that Grandma's here for you always.

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TOSH SIGHS

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Taking them away from their grandparents is probably,

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is THE biggest thing.

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That's kind of, I've sort of thought about a lot recently.

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It's their world, the boys are their world and they see them all the time.

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I think, "Am I being selfish?"

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Taking them away when, you know,

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maybe I am, I don't know.

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Maybe, you know.

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I think, erm, yeah.

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What I wouldn't want to do is push Louise into a decision that

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was too painful to make and I can perfectly understand why someone

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might see that living somewhere else would be better for them

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but still decide not to

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because of not wanting to leave people who are close to them,

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I can understand that happening.

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Seeing the pain of leaving loved ones behind is always difficult,

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especially for children

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but if the Afanasievs are going to make the move,

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they have to be certain that a new life will be worth the heartache.

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'It's an emotional end to the week and it's given Tosh and Louise

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'a lot to think about.'

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Louise has always had more doubts than me about coming here.

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Her reaction to seeing friends and family back home, it wasn't a surprise at all.

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Made me feel real emotional and it was my reality check,

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because that's always been the big thing that, you know,

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that's made me very against the decision.

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Whether watching those messages will actually pull her back the other way, I don't know.

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If that's the case, then that's the case, I wouldn't want to force that.

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If that is the case, I wouldn't want to force her anyway cos we wouldn't be happy here then.

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When it comes to the final vote with Louise, I don't know, who knows?

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'The Afanasievs have had a life-changing week that's given them

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'a full taste of life in Australia.

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'From house and job hunting to family days out and kids' schools

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'but now it's time to make the final vote.

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'Will they go for a future in Australia

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'or has the upset of seeing loved ones

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'made leaving the UK unthinkable?'

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So, we've come to the end of our fantastic week here in Australia.

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We've seen some fantastic houses, great sights and great beaches.

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We've had a great time and now it's time for the final vote.

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ALL: Australia!

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-I did it as well.

-Fantastic. Why did you put Australia?

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-Cos it's hotter than England.

-Cos it's hotter. OK.

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Overall, I think it's just the feel,

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it feels like a better place for us to live.

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I think it's more geared for the way we want to live

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and I think we could have a better life here.

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Yeah, I agree. It's been a real surprise.

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On the plane here, I didn't think that I'd be voting, now,

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that I'd be voting Australia.

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I thought I would be voting UK.

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I thought you might do a bit of a middle of the road thing.

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-No, I'm so far the other way.

-Brilliant. Brilliant.

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-I don't do anything by halves.

-No, no, that's true. That's true.

-Ever.

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After confronting the emotional and financial costs,

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Louise has been won over by Tosh's dream of a new life Down Under.

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They know leaving home will mean making sacrifices

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but with a future in mind, they're ready to face them together.

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