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For most of us, dreaming of emigrating to another country

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is about as close as it gets.

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But if you'd decided that life was too short to think "what if?",

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how would you convince your partner

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to put aside their doubts and follow you to the other side of the world?

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'After ten years of wondering, Teo Armes knows it's now or never

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'for a move down under.'

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If we weren't to move to New Zealand at this time,

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I don't think we'll ever do it.

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'But wife Amanda can't bear to leave home.'

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The distance makes me feel...sick with worry.

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'And if the numbers won't add up...'

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That's not going to be enough money.

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It's just not... The figures don't work out.

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'..is the move worth the pain it may cause?'

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I can't believe you get that upset, even just thinking about it.

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'For many Brits looking for a new start,

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'New Zealand feels just right.

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'Its bright lights, open countryside and mild climate

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'are a powerful draw.

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'With a fraction of the population at home, there's plenty of room for new arrivals.'

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For the Armes family, the next seven days could change their future.

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After experiencing the everyday reality of living in New Zealand,

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they'll face one of the toughest decisions of their lives -

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whether to stay in the UK, or to make the move down under for good.

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'After 25 hours and 12,000 miles in the air,

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'the Armes touched down on Kiwi soil, but it's the British variety

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'that led to an unplanned stopover at immigration.'

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Amanda filled in the forms on the plane to declare if we were carrying any food

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or any footwear that may have soil on,

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and Amanda forgot to say that we had all our walking boots.

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And we've just been officially warned.

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Luckily, we weren't fined the 400 as they were feeling kind,

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but they nearly did and they gave us a proper telling off.

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-And an official warning.

-In my name.

-In Amanda's name.

-Brilliant(!)

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-I didn't even pack the boots.

-She was crying five minutes ago.

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-But, um...not a good start, was it?

-No!

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'Now the authorities know them, let's meet the family, too.

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'Back in Norfolk, the Armes live in the historic county town of Norwich.

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'They are Teo, a consultant social worker,

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'Amanda, a part-time sales assistant,

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'and their children, football-mad Alfie, who's nine,

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'and seven-year-old Isabella.

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'Since a student trip to Australia, Teo has wanted to emigrate.

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'But after falling for and marrying Amanda, the move went on hold.'

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It's always been talked about, but always in the background.

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It's never been, "We're actually going to do it."

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We've never moved forward on that.

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'But a recent tragedy made him look again at his dream.'

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A couple of months ago, my brother,

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um...suddenly and unexpectedly died.

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It's had a huge effect on the whole family.

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But it's really made me...

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evaluate what I've got and what I want from life.

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'However, Amanda worries about moving so far.'

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The distance makes me feel...sick with worry and nerves.

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If anything was to happen to my mum or my dad,

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cos they have not been that well.

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Yeah, it kind of, um...

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Yeah.

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'It's something Amanda hoped she'd never have to contemplate.'

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'I don't like to think about it, otherwise I'd cry.'

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Leaving my mum.

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Really?

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CRYING: They haven't got anyone else. They've only got me.

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-Yeah.

-It's the grandchildren.

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-Yeah.

-And taking them away, cos they love them so much.

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And, er... Yeah.

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-I'd feel really...

-It would be...

-I'd feel really guilty.

-It would have a massive impact.

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'Alfie and Isabella aren't sure, either.'

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Me, Mum and Bella don't know how it feels to be on the other side of the world.

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But Dad does.

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'Teo thinks they're ready for a move.'

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'Now that they're seven and nine, I think it's a perfect age, really.'

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-Before high school.

-Good age, before they get really close friends.

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I think it's almost like a window that we've got now.

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'With the children growing up fast,

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'Teo believes it's now or never, IF they're to emigrate.'

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If we weren't to move to New Zealand at this time,

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I don't think we'll ever do it.

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If I weren't to at least try and show Amanda and the children

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what we could have somewhere else,

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what life is like in another country, I think I'd always have a regret.

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AMANDA: There's nothing worse than having regrets.

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He needs to do what he needs to do and I have to support him on that.

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But the reality of it... is something just...

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I can't comprehend.

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The Armes' future rests in the balance.

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Teo is ready to face the biggest challenge of their lives,

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but convincing Amanda the pain of leaving could be worthwhile is a tough task.

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He has just one week to pull it off.

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'For their week in New Zealand,

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'the family are visiting Auckland on the north island.

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'It's the country's biggest city, full of life

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'but surrounded by open spaces.

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'Their rental home's located in the suburb of Takapuna,

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'but will their first taste of Kiwi living impress?'

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-Ooh!

-Ooh!

-Modern!

-Yeah.

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-Oh, it's all open plan.

-I like it.

-I like open plan.

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-Yeah, it's good.

-Excellent. A good start.

-Yeah.

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I can't wait to sit down, chill out and have a beer!

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'But already, Amanda's thinking of the week ahead.'

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The area that we're staying in seems really nice and the house is gorgeous.

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It's very similar to our home.

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It doesn't feel like something completely alien to me.

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But I know I'm a long way from home.

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The two main things I'm looking forward to are work, obviously -

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but for me, I can get on with a job.

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And houses, which is important for Amanda,

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to try and get Amanda on board.

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If the houses go well, that holds the whole week in good stead,

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cos Amanda's the key decision maker, really.

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LAUGHING NERVOUSLY: It's a massive decision, and it seems even more massive now I'm here!

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'Back in the UK, Teo and Amanda have a three-bedroom home in Norwich.

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'They hope to have a budget of £250,000.

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'But for Amanda, a Kiwi house has got plenty to live up to.'

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I would like a modern house,

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something homely, comfortable, very light, very airy.

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It's more important for Amanda, the property.

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For me, as long as she likes it and she's happy with the house, then I'm happy with the house.

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The kitchen's very important. I prefer a kitchen-diner.

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Ideally, I'd like a spare bedroom, so guests could come and stay.

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I'd like an entertaining space, so we can all be together.

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I definitely would like somewhere to grow some veg and stuff.

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The worst thing would be putting us in the middle of nowhere,

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on a lifestyle property, surrounded by acres of fields.

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I would absolutely hate it.

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That's quite a list, but finding it could be key to winning Amanda over.

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Today, we're giving the Armes a taste of Auckland's housing market.

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We'll show them three typical properties based on what they want,

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what they can afford and the real cost of property down under.

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After seeing what's on offer, they'll find out how much each house costs.

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'Their first stop is the desirable beach-side district of Devonport.

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'It has plenty of local schools and is only a ten-minute ferry ride

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'to the city centre,

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'making it harbour-side living in the suburbs.

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'From the street, you wouldn't know the first house was there.

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'But will it impress the Armes?'

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-I like the little balcony?

-Do you? I don't like the outside of it.

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It looks quite, um...bleak.

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And depressing.

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'That's not the best start.'

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Let's go and have a little look.

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-Are you gonna lead us in, Alfie?

-Yeah. I am.

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OK. What do YOU think?

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It is quite small.

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-This is cosy.

-It's...

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-I like the veranda and the door.

-Yeah?

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I quite like the snugness of a separate lounge,

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and a separate dining room and things.

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The kitchen's on the small side, but it's OK.

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-It's nice that it joins the dining room.

-Yeah.

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-So you can sit there and chat.

-Yeah. That's enough work tops.

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-I like the clock.

-The clock won't stay. That's not a deal-breaker.

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-Can we go outside now?

-Yeah. You two can.

-Go on, then.

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'While the children explore the garden, Mum and Dad check out the bedrooms.'

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This would have to be a children's room. This couldn't be our room.

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-It's way too small.

-Yeah.

-I feel quite claustrophobic.

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'There is an en-suite bathroom, which might offer parental privacy.'

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You can have a bath in peace without the children coming in,

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like they always do.

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'The next bedroom is much larger.'

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OK, so this is the master bedroom. This is a bit better.

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-It's not huge, but...

-No, it's not massive.

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But it's good enough.

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-Built-in wardrobe.

-Go on. Have a nose. You know you want to.

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Yeah. Plenty of space.

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I always feel bad looking through people's wardrobes, so I'll leave that to you.

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Our bed would take up quite a lot of that space.

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I think it's similar to the house when we bought ours

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-and changed everything.

-Yeah.

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-This is quite a big room as well.

-Yeah. This is nice.

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At least the kids would have equal sized rooms for a change.

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-They wouldn't argue.

-You've got the two windows.

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Yeah. This is nice. I like it.

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'With only three bedrooms, there wouldn't be much space for guests,

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'but an answer to that problem may lie downstairs.'

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-Oh, blimey! It's a huge space!

-That's huge!

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'The basement area is as big as the house.'

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-Where do you start?

-I don't know.

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It would take some serious cash to change it, but...

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-Wow!

-Bit of a project!

-BIT of a project(!)

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-Which I don't really fancy.

-I wouldn't mind, as long as the money was in the budget to do it.

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'A guest bedroom is important to Teo and Amanda,

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'who won't settle for somewhere her parents can't visit.'

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Alfie, Bell, where are you?

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Hello!

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Yeah, it's nice isn't it? Do you like this bit, the decking?

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And that bit there.

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-There's a vegetable patch over there.

-A little veg patch!

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-They've got rhubarb.

-I like the garden.

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The garden IS good.

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I'd worry about the neighbours. They'd constantly be having a football in each garden!

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Yeah, you'd be climbing over that fence, like you do at home.

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'This house has lots of potential and the garden Teo wants -

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'if he can stop Alfie turning it into a football pitch.

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'But will their £250,000 budget be enough to afford it?'

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Bearing in mind that we are in Devonport,

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which is expensive.

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The area is nice, good beaches.

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I just don't feel this is the type of area I would want to live in.

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-OK.

-Personally.

-Right. Fair enough.

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-BOTH LAUGH

-Fair enough.

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Go on, then. Turn it over. Let's have a look.

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AMANDA SQUEAKS OK. It's a little bit over-budget.

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-Yeah.

-By about 50 grand.

-Yeah.

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You're going to, at least, spend another 50, if not more, renovating.

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'It may be a good price for Devonport, but Amanda can't see herself living here.

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'So, what's Plan B?'

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If we want to spend a bit less than that,

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we're gonna have to look a little further out from the business district.

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I'm happy to look a bit further out.

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'This property definitely hasn't persuaded Amanda to give up the home she loves.

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'So it's on to the second house, 25 miles to the northwest.

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'Will this appeal to Amanda?'

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Oh, my God! There's a caravan! LAUGHS

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-Yay!

-You're joking!

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Oh, this is horrible.

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-Stop making your mind up until you've had a look.

-OK.

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'Property two is a country cottage full of character.'

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Oh, this is just not my cup of tea at all!

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'This house sits in its own land and there are no neighbours in sight.'

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I don't see the point in having ten acres in the middle of nowhere.

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'Inside, the cottage has an old-fashioned look.'

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Crikey. It's certainly a doer-upper, isn't it?

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-Doer-upper.

-I'd have to knock it down.

-This is a country kitchen.

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Not MY country kitchen.

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Yeah. I'm not feeling any vibe... AT all.

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-Hot tub.

-I just want to walk out the door.

-Do you?

-Yeah.

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'This house is open plan with a large living space and good size kitchen,

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'but it's not sounding promising from Amanda.

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'What about the bedrooms?'

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-A-ha! Yeah.

-Whoa!

-This is the third little bedroom.

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This is tiny. There'd be a massive fight between the children.

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Bella has said she doesn't want a small room again.

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-That's more of an office size.

-Yeah.

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-No, it ain't really us, is it?

-No.

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Let's go and have a look. Oh, it's outside.

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-A little veranda.

-Yeah, yeah.

-Woods are beautiful.

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But that's it, really.

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-What do you reckon?

-Never.

-If we could afford it...

-Never.

-..and have the money to do it up...

-Never.

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You sound like you're warming to the idea()

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'For Amanda to live here, this may need to be the deal of the century.'

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-Let's see what it's worth.

-Shall we reveal?

-Are you ready?

-Go.

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I'm quite excited.

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Oh, my God! Seriously? 224,000 for this?

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Wow! I thought it would be a lot less.

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-Even if it was £100,000, you wouldn't want to buy it.

-LAUGHING: No! No.

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I really don't ever see myself here.

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Even if I was old and grey, I wouldn't live here.

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'It's safe to say that the second property falls into the definite "no" category.

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'The final house is in North Shore, 20 minutes from central Auckland.

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'Surrounded by cafes and shops, it's also close to the beach.

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'So, hopefully, there's something for everyone.'

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-This looks nice.

-It does. It looks more our sort of taste.

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-Yeah.

-Spacious.

-Yes.

-It's nice, isn't it?

-Very nice.

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-It's a really nice size.

-Yeah.

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'That's a much happier sounding Amanda.'

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It's a good space. I could see us making this more our kind of...

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LAUGHS: Wa-hay!

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..more our kind of house.

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'There are two fair-size bedrooms for the children,

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'and the master bedroom gets the thumbs-up from Amanda.

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'Is she coming round to Kiwi living?'

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-Lovely.

-Yeah.

-I'd probably put some French doors there.

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-The fact that you're even thinking these things...

-I can see the potential in this house.

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You can see us living somewhere like this.

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'Outside, the children have been exploring the garden.'

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-Do you like it?

-Yeah.

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'Amanda has found something especially designed for Teo.'

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There's a little shed there to put bikes in.

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Have a look inside. You'd be in heaven, darling.

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Look! You've got a wheelbarrow!

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-A wheelbarrow!

-You'd be well chuffed.

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'Finally, it looks like we found a real contender.'

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-The house is the right size.

-Yeah.

-With a little bit of work.

-Yeah.

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-A little bit of cosmetic work.

-Yeah.

-Few changes here and there.

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-It's livable.

-It's definitely livable.

-Yeah.

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-I think, over time, it would probably be a good option.

-Good.

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-I'm glad I like it, too.

-Wow! We've agreed on something!

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'But will their £250,000 be enough? A lot is riding on this turn.'

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Go on, then. Are you gonna do it?

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BOTH: Mmmmmm!

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-OK.

-Blimey. Bang-on 500,000.

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-It's not cheap, is it?

-No.

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We can afford it. Top end of the budget, but...

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-Is it better than you thought?

-Yeah, I think it is.

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-I thought it was going to be 275.

-Yeah. That's a good price.

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-It's exciting.

-Yeah!

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'The day of house-hunting didn't start well.

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'Property one was a disappointment for Amanda.

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'And the second house might as well have been on the moon!'

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Never.

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'But the final affordable house got everyone excited.

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'Has Amanda seen enough to start the week with a vote for New Zealand?'

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Based on the three properties we've seen today, we'll vote for...

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-Middle!

-UK!

-UK!

-Our home.

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-Why were you undecided?

-I like our house at home.

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-The gardens in New Zealand seem to be bigger than the ones back home.

-Bigger than our garden?

-Yeah.

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Bella, why did you choose our home?

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Cos I like our house.

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We've got an allotment and me and my friends go there a lot.

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Yeah, that's true. OK, fair enough.

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We've made our home really nice and I think the houses we saw today

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weren't anything I would want to live in.

0:19:370:19:40

The cost of the houses here, in comparison for what you get,

0:19:400:19:44

just on the three we've seen...

0:19:440:19:46

-Yeah, prefer ours.

-They weren't the right home.

-No.

0:19:460:19:48

-Hopefully, tomorrow, with work and school it'll be a better day.

-I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

0:19:480:19:53

House-hunting in Auckland was far from the perfect start Teo was hoping for,

0:19:570:20:01

and he has a much bigger job on his hands persuading Amanda to give up the home she loves.

0:20:010:20:07

But with everyone staying positive,

0:20:070:20:09

could work opportunities in Auckland give his hopes a much-needed boost?

0:20:090:20:14

'At home, Teo is a consultant social worker.

0:20:150:20:17

'He's built a successful career, but he's realistic about his prospects down under.'

0:20:170:20:23

I would probably be having to almost take a step down if I was going to go to New Zealand.

0:20:230:20:28

I've got more of a managerial position here.

0:20:280:20:31

Almost certainly, I'd earn less money.

0:20:310:20:33

But I accept that. That's not really gonna bother me.

0:20:330:20:37

If it was hugely different, then it would be an issue.

0:20:370:20:41

But if it's just a small difference, a little bit less, that's OK.

0:20:410:20:45

'Teo hopes to find work from day one in New Zealand,

0:20:450:20:49

'while Amanda's in charge of tracking down a school that feels right for the children.'

0:20:490:20:55

Alfie is very academic. Bella's very artistic.

0:20:550:20:59

So I'd need to find a school that combines both those things.

0:20:590:21:05

I want them both to do as well as they can.

0:21:050:21:08

'It's going to be a busy day for both of them.

0:21:080:21:11

'Teo's come to find out what the job market is like

0:21:110:21:15

'for social workers from overseas.'

0:21:150:21:17

-Come on. Let's grab a coffee.

-Yeah. Thanks.

0:21:170:21:20

'Pru and Kristen work for an agency that recruits healthcare professionals.'

0:21:200:21:25

Thanks so much for coming to meet with us today.

0:21:250:21:28

'The first question is, could he find work quickly?'

0:21:280:21:31

-The New Zealand health system is very comparable to the UK.

-Right.

0:21:310:21:36

That's why we find that UK health professionals are quite sought after in New Zealand.

0:21:360:21:42

They tend to hit the ground running because our systems are comparable.

0:21:420:21:46

Right, brilliant.

0:21:460:21:48

The one thing is that the New Zealand social workers board

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only allows you to register as a social worker

0:21:520:21:55

once you're in the country and you have a work permit.

0:21:550:21:58

So that's one of the first things to look at once you're here.

0:21:580:22:03

'If they emigrate, Amanda wants a school in place before they arrive,

0:22:030:22:07

'so she's spending the day visiting one that's been recommended.'

0:22:070:22:11

It's good you could come today to have a look at the way we do things in New Zealand.

0:22:110:22:16

You'll have lots of questions.

0:22:160:22:18

Mum and both of you can ask as many questions as you like.

0:22:180:22:22

Brilliant. Thank you.

0:22:220:22:25

'Head mistress Lee Hopkirk is happy to show them around.'

0:22:250:22:29

Look, Alfie. They're on their boat. That looks amazing!

0:22:290:22:33

-It was from our outdoor education week.

-Wow! You can go sailing!

0:22:330:22:37

The Year Five classes went to lots of different outdoor activities.

0:22:370:22:42

There's a lot better school trips than WE have.

0:22:420:22:45

'And the outdoor facilities are just as impressive.'

0:22:450:22:49

Here, the children use the lake and the pool

0:22:490:22:52

and learn to swim and kayak and sail as part of the curriculum.

0:22:520:22:57

I'd quite like to do kayaking.

0:22:570:23:00

'This is a state school, but away trips aren't free.

0:23:000:23:03

'So can Teo's salary provide enough for their needs?'

0:23:030:23:06

I'd hope that with my qualifications and experience

0:23:060:23:10

I could start, maybe, at a higher level than somebody who had less.

0:23:100:23:14

How it works is that it goes on your post-graduate experience.

0:23:140:23:17

You could expect to be, you know, minimum step five,

0:23:170:23:22

which is roughly 61,362.

0:23:220:23:27

However, you know, there are many steps on here. It goes up to 15.

0:23:270:23:32

-In here, it details how you move up...

-Excellent, yeah.

0:23:320:23:35

..as you progressed through your years.

0:23:350:23:39

That's really good.

0:23:390:23:41

'That's similar to what he already earns, and for a lower grade,

0:23:410:23:46

'but is there work available for him?'

0:23:460:23:48

I think you would be a great candidate for people.

0:23:480:23:53

That's really good.

0:23:530:23:55

Thank you so much for coming all the way to see us. We'll keep in touch.

0:23:550:23:59

If you've got questions, pop them through by e-mail and we'll come back to you.

0:23:590:24:03

Thank you. That's excellent.

0:24:030:24:05

'It looks like Teo could find a good position,

0:24:050:24:08

'but Alfie and Isabella have a few questions of their own to ask.'

0:24:080:24:13

We do maths, reading and writing. All the same, probably.

0:24:130:24:16

-How often do you do art?

-At least once a week.

0:24:160:24:21

Sometimes, we have an art intensive and do it lots of times in one week,

0:24:210:24:25

and then not again for a few weeks.

0:24:250:24:28

'This school seems an ideal fit for the children,

0:24:280:24:31

'offering art, high standards and sport.

0:24:310:24:34

'But would it be easy to place them here?'

0:24:340:24:37

We are a very popular school and our numbers are really high.

0:24:370:24:40

-So much so that we're not letting our numbers get any higher.

-OK.

0:24:400:24:45

You have to be living in the school zone to come to Milford School.

0:24:450:24:49

If you're not, the only way would be through a ballot.

0:24:490:24:52

'It looks like good schools are hard to get into wherever they are,

0:24:520:24:56

'but has Amanda been impressed?'

0:24:560:24:59

I think the school is absolutely brilliant. I can't fault it at all.

0:24:590:25:03

The kids really love it and the teachers seem really friendly.

0:25:030:25:06

So yeah, it's put my mind at ease and made me feel a lot happier.

0:25:060:25:11

Yeah. About the move.

0:25:110:25:13

'And what about Teo's verdict after his day of job-hunting?'

0:25:130:25:17

Based on my work interview today, I'm going to vote for...

0:25:170:25:21

..New Zealand!

0:25:240:25:26

I'm reassured by the salary. It's very comparable to the UK.

0:25:260:25:31

I always thought I would earn slightly less,

0:25:310:25:33

because I would be starting as a front-line social worker,

0:25:330:25:38

rather than the position I have back home.

0:25:380:25:41

I'm really pleased that there's good career progression

0:25:410:25:46

and professional development.

0:25:460:25:49

It's... Yeah, it's good.

0:25:490:25:52

'Before Teo can tell his views to everyone, Alfie chips in first.'

0:25:520:25:56

-Was it good?

-Yeah.

0:25:560:25:58

Where the school is is near the lake.

0:25:580:26:01

-It's really cool.

-Is it?

-Yeah.

-It's lovely.

0:26:010:26:04

-And you get to go kayaking on it.

-And sailing.

-And sailing.

-Very good!

0:26:040:26:09

-And they do football.

-Soccer.

-Do they call it soccer?

-Yeah.

0:26:090:26:13

-Do they say they do art and netball, Bella?

-Every week, they do art.

0:26:130:26:17

AMANDA: Lots of art around the school, wasn't there?

0:26:170:26:20

It's cool. A really big adventure.

0:26:200:26:24

-Can we go and play now?

-Yeah. Course you can.

-Go on, then.

0:26:240:26:28

'Then it's time for Mum and Dad to catch up.'

0:26:280:26:31

-I was wondering how YOU got on today.

-Yeah, excellent.

0:26:310:26:35

They were pretty positive.

0:26:350:26:37

We talked about the process, the help that they can give,

0:26:370:26:41

the visa applications.

0:26:410:26:44

The pay was OK.

0:26:440:26:46

-They said I'd probably start on around 61,000, I think.

-Mm.

0:26:460:26:51

-Is that for a basic social worker?

-Yeah.

0:26:510:26:54

-There was quite a lot of progression after that.

-Really? That's OK, then.

0:26:540:26:58

Yeah. They were very positive about the prospect. How does that make you feel about moving here now?

0:26:580:27:04

It's made me feel a little bit better.

0:27:040:27:06

It's not made me suddenly want to come out just because of A school.

0:27:060:27:10

There's so many different factors, but that part has been really positive and made the kids happy.

0:27:100:27:16

As long as they're at ease and know that it's not going to be scary for them, it puts my mind at rest.

0:27:160:27:21

Getting two young children excited about the idea of going to school is no mean feat.

0:27:250:27:31

Life in Auckland is looking a lot more attractive for Teo and Amanda after their fact-finding day.

0:27:310:27:37

However, to afford it will mean getting a good price for their UK home.

0:27:370:27:41

'The Armes are hoping they can raise over £200,000 from selling their house.

0:27:410:27:47

'We've asked two estate agents to give us their professional opinion.'

0:27:470:27:51

'Lovely room. Nice and light and bright.

0:27:540:27:58

'Makes the room feel a lot bigger than you would expect it to be.

0:27:580:28:02

'So, looks good.'

0:28:020:28:04

Pink seems to go through the entire house!

0:28:060:28:09

'Wood burner's a nice feature. I take it that's useable.

0:28:090:28:13

'Sitting on a nice hearth. Kitchen-breakfast room.'

0:28:130:28:17

AMANDA: That's really nice!

0:28:170:28:19

-It's my favourite part of the house.

-BELLA: My room's my favourite.

0:28:190:28:23

AMANDA: Alfie's room! ESTATE AGENT: Good size room.

0:28:230:28:27

'Typical of this kind of house, but really good size room.

0:28:270:28:31

'Master bedroom. It's a big bed, but the room still feels a good size.'

0:28:310:28:35

-It's a huge bed!

-'So, very good size room. Very nice.

0:28:350:28:39

'Okey dokey, we have the third bedroom.

0:28:390:28:43

-'The decor is nice and neutral.'

-Get down!

0:28:430:28:45

'A very pleasant room.'

0:28:450:28:49

AMANDA: Your bedroom looks lovely! KIDS AND TEO: Ah!

0:28:490:28:53

'This is a lovely family house.

0:28:530:28:56

'Great location. I would suggest an asking price

0:28:560:29:00

'of just under 200...

0:29:000:29:02

'I would put the property on the market at...'

0:29:060:29:09

Ooh!

0:29:110:29:12

'I'd look to achieve 210 to 215.'

0:29:120:29:14

That is a big price difference. I'm quite surprised.

0:29:140:29:17

If we could get 210, I'd be thrilled.

0:29:170:29:19

'That all sounds like good news, but can the Armes afford to live in New Zealand?

0:29:190:29:25

'We prepared a comparison of their expenses at home and down under,

0:29:250:29:29

'to see if they can afford Kiwi life.'

0:29:290:29:31

-Whoa! Look at aubergines!

-Crikey!

0:29:310:29:34

-The kids don't like them, anyway.

-We'll grow them.

-You can grow them.

0:29:340:29:38

Right, OK. Loo roll. Slightly cheaper.

0:29:380:29:41

Yeah, but is it tracing paper or is it toilet roll?

0:29:410:29:45

'Despite some items being more expensive,

0:29:450:29:49

'their weekly shop would only go up by £15 in New Zealand.'

0:29:490:29:54

That difference per week is not a huge amount, now we know we can...

0:29:540:29:58

-It's an average.

-Yeah. That's all right.

0:30:000:30:03

'They're basing their calculations on Teo's Kiwi salary,

0:30:030:30:06

'which they hope would be about the same as he earns in the UK,

0:30:060:30:10

'but there is a big problem.'

0:30:100:30:12

We'd still be worse off because our mortgage would jump hugely

0:30:120:30:17

from £500 a month at home...

0:30:170:30:20

-Yeah.

-..to around about 956 here.

0:30:200:30:23

-We've been lucky with the mortgage at home.

-Mm. Mm.

0:30:230:30:27

It's do-able, but we won't have much left each month.

0:30:270:30:31

'With only one salary, the figures don't look great.

0:30:310:30:34

'So do they think the move is worth it?'

0:30:340:30:37

So, based on the cost of living between here and the UK,

0:30:370:30:41

our vote goes to...

0:30:410:30:43

-..UK.

-Yes, UK. Has to be.

0:30:490:30:53

-Yeah.

-My heart is saying to me we can still do it, and I know we can.

0:30:530:30:57

But my brain is saying, um... it's still quite a lot of money.

0:30:570:31:02

The worry is, how much money would we have left over each month?

0:31:020:31:05

-I don't want to be skint.

-We've got enough to be here, so it's the quality of life you'd have here.

0:31:050:31:12

But with that amount of money left, there wouldn't BE much quality of life.

0:31:120:31:16

You couldn't go out for the extra meal, for the extra thing.

0:31:160:31:20

And the holidays and flights home.

0:31:200:31:22

That's just not going to be enough money.

0:31:220:31:25

It's just not... The figures don't work out.

0:31:250:31:29

Even Teo found it hard to argue with the cost of living figures.

0:31:330:31:37

Tight finances aren't a big selling point for Amanda, either.

0:31:370:31:41

But for a young and active family like the Armes,

0:31:410:31:44

it's the opportunity to enjoy New Zealand's great outdoors that could prove priceless.

0:31:440:31:49

'At home, Alfie is a budding player at Norwich City Soccer School.

0:31:500:31:54

'Today, they're joining a similar club in Auckland,

0:31:540:31:58

'to see how they compare.'

0:31:580:32:00

Alfie, do you want to join in, have a kick about with us?

0:32:000:32:03

-Shall I get changed?

-Yeah, we've got some kit for you.

0:32:030:32:07

You look cool Alf, don't worry!

0:32:120:32:14

'While Alfie and Teo warm up,

0:32:190:32:22

'Amanda meets a fellow soccer mum.'

0:32:220:32:25

So you come here how many times a week?

0:32:250:32:27

-Sometimes three.

-Really?

-And then on a Saturday.

0:32:270:32:31

I'm a bit of a fair-weather football mum so I only come out when it's sunny and dry.

0:32:310:32:36

-You don't even watch at training?

-No.

0:32:360:32:39

I do like to encourage him, but I'm not very sports orientated.

0:32:390:32:45

-That's a good way, coming over here, to meet people, though.

-Yes.

0:32:450:32:49

-I might have to change my outlook on the football.

-You might.

0:32:490:32:52

'On the pitch, Alfie is having no trouble fitting in.'

0:32:520:32:55

Alfie, lay it off! Lovely! Finish it!

0:32:550:32:59

It's good to see the boys playing.

0:33:010:33:03

-It's a pretty good standard.

-They ARE a good standard.

0:33:030:33:07

Players that are good enough for the academy, they're noticed.

0:33:070:33:11

They'll get invited to come along and see if they fit in.

0:33:110:33:15

Yeah! Goal! Great finish!

0:33:150:33:18

So, if you wanted to sign Alfie, we could have a chat over a beer.

0:33:180:33:23

-I was thinking 500 grand?

-For nine, he's got some great skills.

0:33:230:33:28

He seems enthusiastic as well, but 500,000? Over how long?

0:33:280:33:33

'It looks like Teo's made a friend already,

0:33:330:33:36

'but Amanda still has worries.'

0:33:360:33:39

Coming over here as a new person, it must be difficult to meet people, that's my biggest fear.

0:33:390:33:45

I found it hard, too. I just joined the school PTA.

0:33:450:33:48

That was my way of meeting people with kids my own age.

0:33:480:33:52

We do fund-raising, but we also go out for dinner.

0:33:520:33:55

Friendships have developed. One of my best friends is someone I met six months ago.

0:33:550:33:59

I think I'm going to have to get my head round the lifestyle change,

0:33:590:34:03

not only a big move.

0:34:030:34:05

-Yes. I'm more than happy to help you when you arrive.

-Excellent!

0:34:050:34:09

-You're coming back for sure!

-Yeah!

0:34:090:34:12

'So, with Amanda also fitting in,

0:34:120:34:14

'it's time to indulge Isabella with a Kiwi treat.'

0:34:140:34:18

It's like being in Italy again, can you remember?

0:34:200:34:24

It's going everywhere.

0:34:280:34:30

'With the game finished, the boys are getting ready to join them.'

0:34:300:34:34

-How was that? Did you enjoy it?

-Yes.

0:34:340:34:36

-It was good?

-Yeah, very good.

-You done really well.

0:34:360:34:39

-Everyone was very friendly.

-They ARE friendly. I was thinking that.

0:34:390:34:43

'After a busy morning, hitting the beach is an ideal way to unwind.

0:34:450:34:49

'The Kiwi lifestyle seems to have made an impact on Amanda.'

0:34:490:34:53

I'd be stupid to even say, "No, I wouldn't want to live here."

0:34:530:34:57

-Because it's lovely.

-Yeah.

-There's so many other things to consider.

0:34:570:35:01

-But this is pretty good, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:35:010:35:04

The kids are well catered for. There's so much they can do.

0:35:040:35:07

-It looks like it's all about family.

-Yeah.

0:35:070:35:10

The activities that the kids can get involved in,

0:35:100:35:13

like after-school clubs and different...sailing.

0:35:130:35:16

-On that front, I'm...

-You're won over.

-I'm won over by that. Totally.

0:35:160:35:22

'It's been a great day out for everyone,

0:35:220:35:25

'but has the Auckland lifestyle worked enough magic on Amanda

0:35:250:35:29

'to overcome all her fears and worries?'

0:35:290:35:31

Based on the lifestyle in New Zealand, our vote goes to...

0:35:310:35:35

ALL: ..New Zealand!

0:35:460:35:48

Woo, Bella! You chose it!

0:35:510:35:54

Yay!

0:35:540:35:55

How come you chose it? I didn't think you were going to.

0:35:550:35:59

BELLA: I like it when the weather's nice.

0:35:590:36:03

- At home, it's all cold and rainy. - Yeah. Well done, Bell.

0:36:030:36:06

-Brilliant.

-I like that they do football and it's good coaching.

0:36:060:36:10

Yeah. Brilliant.

0:36:100:36:12

It's sunny here and it's got loads of beaches.

0:36:120:36:16

The place is surrounded by water.

0:36:160:36:18

AMANDA: So, not much to choose from, Alfie(!)

0:36:180:36:20

Alfie's speaking for me as well.

0:36:200:36:23

This is the easiest vote, cos the lifestyle is fantastic.

0:36:230:36:27

-I think we all agree on that.

-Yeah. Love it.

0:36:270:36:30

A unanimous vote for New Zealand is a big turnaround for Teo's hopes.

0:36:340:36:39

The Kiwi lifestyle looks to have shown Amanda that she could have a life here, after all.

0:36:390:36:44

But leaving the ones she loves at home has always been her greatest fear.

0:36:440:36:49

-Are you happy to watch it?

-Yeah.

0:36:490:36:52

-You're not going to get too upset?

-No.

-OK, let's watch.

0:36:520:36:56

'Hello, Teo and Amanda and Bella and Alfie.

0:36:580:37:02

-'Hope you're enjoying yourselves.

-Bella's a little madam!'

0:37:020:37:05

ALL LAUGH

0:37:050:37:08

'She's a little squawker! Takes after her mum.

0:37:080:37:11

'Alfie is lovely. Really well-behaved and gorgeous, isn't he?

0:37:110:37:16

RUBY: 'Blondie!' AMANDA: Blondie!

0:37:160:37:20

'You've got a bit of a crush on him, haven't you, Rubes?'

0:37:200:37:23

LAUGHTER All coming out now!

0:37:230:37:26

-'They are absolutely brilliant parents, aren't they?

-Yeah.

0:37:260:37:30

'They've both got jobs, a nice house, a nice environment.

0:37:300:37:34

'Um, friends and family.

0:37:340:37:38

'I've traced my family tree back to 1715 in Norwich alone.

0:37:380:37:43

'So to walk away from that all, you know, your roots, if you like,

0:37:430:37:47

'I can't really understand that.

0:37:470:37:51

'With the tragedy in the family, I see he wants to live his dream.

0:37:510:37:55

'He wants to get out there and do what he wants to do.

0:37:550:37:59

'After losing one brother,

0:37:590:38:01

'to me, it does feel a bit like I'll be losing him.

0:38:010:38:04

'I don't know how often we'd be able to get out there and see them.

0:38:040:38:08

'I don't want you to go. You know that. All of you.

0:38:080:38:12

'I'd like to see my two grandchildren grow up.

0:38:120:38:15

'I'd like to see Alfie play for Norwich.

0:38:150:38:18

'Deep down, I hope she doesn't go, but...

0:38:180:38:22

'There is a part of me that would like them to be around,

0:38:220:38:26

'but that's just me being selfish, really.

0:38:260:38:29

'I think, for them, it would be wonderful.

0:38:290:38:32

'I know there'll be a few boxes you need to tick off

0:38:320:38:35

'before you make your decision, and I know you'll make the right one.

0:38:350:38:39

'I'll miss you very, very, very much.

0:38:390:38:41

'It would be another emptiness for me, in my life,

0:38:430:38:48

'but I'm prepared to take that sacrifice.

0:38:480:38:51

'Live your dream and I'll just come and see you as soon as I can!'

0:38:510:38:56

-Ah, blimey!

-That threw you, didn't it?

-Yeah.

0:38:570:39:00

-Pretty supportive, really, wasn't it?

-Yeah. Positive.

0:39:000:39:04

But Dad made me laugh with his, "Don't know why we'd want to leave after 300 years of history!"

0:39:040:39:09

That's so typical of him. He loves his roots and his history.

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-To break that is huge.

-I knew my mum would be supportive.

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I can see it breaking her heart, but...

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-I think they can understand. They can understand.

-Yeah.

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Watching messages showed the Armes just how much they'd be missed IF they chose to emigrate.

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For Teo's dream to come true, it's the price they will have to pay.

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After experiencing the highs and lows of life in New Zealand,

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which way will they vote?

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I am a bit nervous about which way Amanda will go.

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I guess she must be stressing about it.

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But I guess she knows that it's her decision that's going to affect everything.

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I really like it. I can't fault the place.

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There's nothing... It's lovely.

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There's nothing I can say against it, so my dilemma is,

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do I give it a chance and do it for Teo?

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And maybe not just for myself?

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Cos I don't... I don't know. It's just not...

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I'm... I just don't think I could do it.

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I love it and if I knew other people were gonna be here, I'd jump.

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I think this is a good opportunity for the children.

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They'd have a good childhood here.

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There's always going to be minuses

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cos they'll be without family and cousins

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and friends who they've left behind.

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But I think the bonus of being outside and having an active kind of lifestyle outweighs that.

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I can see how happy he is. He loves it. He's just alive.

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He's come to life. So has Alfie. Bella's loving every minute as well.

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If Amanda does vote for the UK,

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we'll probably have many conversations, I would imagine, just for the next few weeks,

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next month or two, and then I don't think I'll bring it up.

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You know... There's no point flogging a...

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a dead horse, is that the saying?

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I need to stop being selfish, really.

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Do things for others, rather than holding them all back.

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'It's time to vote one last time.

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'Has Amanda been able to put her doubts behind her

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'to join Teo in his dream?'

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Based on our week here in New Zealand,

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our vote is going to go to...

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-..New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

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Wooo!

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Oh, UK!

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-Amanda, you've gone New Zealand!

-Only with a discussion.

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It's not a definite "we're coming next week or next month".

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It's... Yeah.

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We shall see. We need to talk.

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But...the lifestyle's brilliant. The schools are brilliant.

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But the family ties are still strong, so, yeah.

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Oh, bubsie! I know why.

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Is it Nanny?

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BELLA CRIES

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Ah! Bella!

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BELLA CRYING: I don't want to go.

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AMANDA: We've got a lot of talking to do. It's not a definite decision.

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We wouldn't do anything that you didn't want to do as well, OK?

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After plenty of soul-searching Amanda's been won over by New Zealand, but with strings attached!

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Even though Isabella's tears are a reminder of how difficult emigrating can be,

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the Armes are looking forward to building a new future together.

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