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Fond memories of time spent abroad can often plant the seed

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of something more permanent,

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but are they enough to convince your family to move halfway around the world?

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And what if you believe that emigrating wasn't just your dream, but your destiny?

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For Lucy Jackson, Australia offers a chance to live the life she dreams of.

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-If we're meant to be there, we just will be.

-But her partner Lee isn't so sure.

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-I don't want to be at the other side of the world feeling trapped.

-And if the numbers don't add up...

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-The cost is quite a bit higher.

-..they won't be going anywhere.

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I really don't know. I really, really don't know. I am genuinely torn.

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For thousands of new arrivals every year, Australia offers the chance to live an ideal family life.

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Watching your children grow up in the sunshine

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amidst the great outdoors can seem like a dream come true.

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But for many, life down under doesn't deliver the paradise they hoped for and they return home.

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The McGrath-Jackson family have one week

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to experience the reality of living in Australia.

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At the end of it, they'll face a life-changing decision -

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whether to stay in the UK or to make the move down under for good.

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After three plane changes, 12,000 miles and 72 hours' travelling,

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the McGrath-Jacksons touch down on Aussie soil.

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After a very long haul, they're tired, but looking forward to the week ahead.

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The journey was long and it was different with children.

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I'm feeling good about the week ahead. I'm ready for the surprises, see what hits us.

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A little bit apprehensive, but feeling good, feeling positive. But I think the jet lag's kicking in.

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Thankfully for Lee, it's just a short drive to their rented accommodation.

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Back in the UK, the McGrath-Jackson family live in the village of Burghead near Inverness

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on the Moray Firth.

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They are Lee, manager of a local charity,

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Lucy, an alternative therapy practitioner,

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and their three children - Rosie, aged 11,

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and twins Poppy and Jack, aged nine.

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For Lucy, the idea of emigrating first took root in the 1990s

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after a fateful meeting changed the course of her life.

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Originally, I was a costume designer-maker in Norwich in England

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and I kind of felt lost, I didn't know where I was going.

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Although I had a great job, I just didn't feel right somehow.

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So I saw a friend who was a clairvoyant

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and he said, "You need to be in Australia. You're in the wrong area. You need to go there."

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And I absolutely, 100% knew he was right.

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I went out to Australia to study Australian bush flowers, which he said that I had to work with.

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I travelled across Australia and I studied lovely courses and it just all flowed.

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And it all came together.

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Lucy brought her alternative therapy experience back with her

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and now runs her own flower remedy sessions at home.

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But returning to the place that inspired her has always been her dream.

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I'd like to go out into the bush and work with the flowers one to one and see them in their natural habitat.

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There's nothing physical that says, "Go now."

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It is definitely based on energy similar to the flowers.

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It's like... Yeah, it's based on a feeling.

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Australia may be Lucy's passion, but for Lee,

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following it to the other side of the world has him torn.

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I wouldn't say I've been seriously considering emigrating, but I've been thinking about it

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because obviously, I'm living with a lass that's really keen on the idea of emigrating.

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We have children together and we love each other to bits. You know, I want to be with her.

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At this present time, I'm prepared to go out to Australia. I'm prepared to look at the options out there

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and decide if this is going to be feasible for us.

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Lee has two jobs. He runs a social enterprise, reconditioning computers for disadvantaged communities,

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as well as tutoring others starting up their own business.

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Australia would mean leaving a work life he loves, but he knows what that would mean to Lucy.

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Lucy's passion for the flowers is up there with her passion for her children and her family,

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so it's something that Lucy lives by day to day

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through her work and also through her own personal life as well.

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Australia could also signal big changes for the children.

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At the moment, they are home-schooled

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and moving down under could mean giving up an important part of the family's lifestyle.

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They learn all a spectrum of learning, rather than just academic.

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Academic is covered too, of course. It has to be.

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But they're learning the everyday things that you need in order to move, fly the nest...

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-To the next stage, yeah.

-Children can do that whilst going to school.

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The major difference is the relaxed atmosphere when you walk in the home. It's so much more relaxed.

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But Lee's not the only one who needs convincing about moving down under.

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Me and my dad are kind of the ones who are not as keen to go.

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It's more the twins and Mum who want to go the most.

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I'd like to go to Australia because it's great to have new experiences.

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I would like to go to Australia to surf.

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The family is split down the middle, but they all know what they stand to lose if they decide to emigrate.

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I know that my mum and dad would be very upset if we left the area

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and I would be very upset to leave them.

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And the opportunity we have at the moment...

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We can go and visit Lucy's folks and Lucy's family down south three or four times a year.

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It won't be that possible if we're on the other side of the world.

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Lee's roots run deep in Scotland, but if he can't face letting go of them,

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Lucy knows her dream will be over.

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I would never drag him across there, leaving all his family and things.

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He has to feel it or it won't happen.

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I will go as far as...

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I'd move to the other side of the world, I'd move to the moon to make Lucy happy,

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as long as as a family unit, we're all happy.

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I think if you just really let go and jump,

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sometimes amazing things come.

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I don't have many worries about it because I know if we're meant to be there, we just will be.

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The McGrath-Jacksons face a test of faith.

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Lucy believes that a move down under will be the start of a bright new adventure for her family,

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but Lee knows that making such a huge choice could cost them dearly,

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so will they choose their future with their hearts or with their heads?

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The McGrath-Jacksons are visiting Ipswich, a growing city 25 miles inland from Brisbane.

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With Australia's third biggest city nearby, there should be good work opportunities for Lee

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and plenty of chances to enjoy the benefits of the Aussie outdoor lifestyle.

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They'll stay at this traditional, four-bedroom Queenslander house.

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Hopefully, it will get things off to a good start.

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-Wow!

-Oh, wow!

-Very colonial.

-That's lovely, isn't it?

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-Yeah.

-Yeah, impressive.

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Really nice.

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-For me, if we look at this as our move-in house, it's too dated for me.

-Yeah.

-I like mixing old and new.

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I just want to find out how much it costs.

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Although Lucy has been here before, Australia is a new experience for the rest of the family

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and as the unpacking begins, thoughts soon turn to the week ahead.

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There's certainly an excited feel about it, but I've got to work out the difference

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between holiday excitement and "new things" excitement and the practicals of it,

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but it's certainly feeling quite exciting at the moment.

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It's not really a fact-finding thing for me. It never was.

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It was really based on a good feeling. I always follow whatever feels like the right thing to do.

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It is a new thing for all of us. That was the joy of coming.

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It's for everyone. We can all look at this area and say, "Is this a possibility for our family to live?"

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Back home, the McGrath-Jacksons rent a three-bedroom modern house.

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Lucy also owns a plot of land near her family home which could help to raise funds for emigrating.

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They have a budget of £125,000 in mind

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if they can find the right property.

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I'd love the kids to have a bedroom each. The twins have never experienced that.

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That would be fantastic. And some space to work where we could in the future build on

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and make something for me to work from home and also somewhere for people to stay.

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-That's really important for people to stay, but the absolute dream is all made of wood, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-I kind of go with that, but...

-A beautiful swinging seat on the veranda.

-Yeah.

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Today, we'll give the McGrath-Jacksons a taste of Brisbane's housing market.

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We'll show them three options based on what they want from their ideal home and what they can afford.

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After seeing for themselves what's on offer, they'll find out how much each house costs.

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Ipswich is known for its old-style Queenslander houses.

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For years, they were a cheap option for families emigrating on a tight budget,

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but as UK exchange rates have fallen, property prices in Australia have rocketed

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and the days of bargain basements are a thing of the past.

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So will Lee and Lucy's budget be able to keep up with their hopes?

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The first house is a classic Queenslander design.

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According to the estate agents, it's an inviting family home, but will the McGrath-Jacksons agree?

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-It's massive.

-Look at this, Dad.

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-Whoa!

-It's like a cabin.

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-That wasn't expected, was it?

-Wow!

-Let's have a look out here. It's nice to come out on to a balcony.

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Oh, my God, this was like a kind of dream of ours, having a balcony!

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This was our wraparound balcony, wasn't it, guys?

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No, that's a really... I'm not so sure about the road.

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But it's a doer-upper, isn't it? It's a real doer-upper.

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That's not a bad start, although at more than 60 years old, this house could definitely use some TLC.

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For the children, it's their first taste of an Aussie backyard.

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-We definitely don't get these plants in Scotland.

-Definitely not.

-They don't grow a lot.

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The house also has plenty of Aussie character, but with only three bedrooms, it may be short on space,

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at least upstairs.

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-OK...

-Oh, my gosh!

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Wow!

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This is a shock. I didn't realise this was underneath.

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I mean, this makes up for not having the fourth bedroom upstairs.

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Yeah. The other thing you could potentially have here as well is your healing.

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It's quite a bit of work, but if you had enough money left over, you could do it.

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It all comes down to the price.

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It may be missing a fourth bedroom,

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but the feel and the downstairs space are what the McGrath-Jacksons were looking for in an Aussie home.

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The big question is, can they afford it on their £125,000 budget?

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-Shall we have a look at the price, guys?

-You can have a look.

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You turn it, Poppy.

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£196,000.

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196,000. OK, yeah, I reckon...

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-We couldn't afford that.

-For everything we wanted to do in the house, it would be 30 to 50 K.

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It's a tough start to the day.

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This house may be what the family wanted, but it's at least £70,000 over budget.

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It is more than I would pay for it.

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-Definitely.

-We might have to find a slightly poorer area to shop around for a house.

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Lee is staying positive, but finding a house the McGrath-Jacksons can love and afford

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looks like it could be a real challenge.

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The second property is ten minutes from Ipswich city centre, close to local shops and schools.

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It's another doer-upper which should help its price,

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but can it lift everyone's spirits after the first home?

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Well, it's, um...a nice colour!

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Maybe not on the outside, but what about indoors?

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-It's quite dark, isn't it?

-Very dark.

-It is very dark.

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-It's like pitch-dark in here.

-You need disco lights!

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I'm not picking up good vibes in here at all.

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-It doesn't give a nice, warm feeling in your belly.

-It's freaking me out, standing in this room.

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I don't know what's gone on in here, but I don't like the feel of it.

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Let's have a look about, guys, and we'll get a feel for it.

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-It's not as positive as the last one.

-No, no.

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OK, let's have a look about.

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That's not a great sign. The house does have front and rear gardens.

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But turning it into a family home will take some work.

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That's if Lee and Lucy are willing.

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-Oh, my God!

-I'm not getting that lovely, warm feeling.

-No.

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-I can't even stand in that room. I'll have to go out the room.

-OK.

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-It's the nicest feeling room yet.

-It's a big room.

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-It's because the light's coming in. That side of the house is quite dark, physically dark.

-Yeah.

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It's still scary though.

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-Yeah.

-It's freaking me out. It's really freaking me out, this house.

-Yeah.

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For Lucy, Australia is all about finding a house that feels right and despite her hopes,

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it's clear that this one simply doesn't.

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-Let's head out, shall we?

-We'll head out and have a look in the garden and see.

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There's something out there. I don't know what it is.

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-It's not a bad-sized garden.

-It's quite a good size, yeah.

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I'm not sure about the bar area.

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And Jack may have hit the nail on the head.

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It looks like a bachelor pad, even worse than a bachelor pad.

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They're into alcohol, a lot into alcohol, actually.

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More than I've ever known somebody to be into alcohol. Two bars!

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It's been an uncomfortable experience for Lucy.

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It just freaks me out.

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It's just a freak-out feeling and I wouldn't want to even try clearing that.

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It just feels freaky.

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Converting this house into a family home would require a lot of work.

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But could all its shortcomings be made up for in its price?

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With finances looking tight, how will it fit into Lee and Lucy's budget?

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-Jack, are you ready to turn it over?

-Let's look at this price.

-"Find the price" time.

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I think it's going to take a while to sell at that price.

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It's set up as a bachelor pad.

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If you're aiming to sell a house, you have to neutralise it and give it a bit more of a feel

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-because it just doesn't feel right at all.

-No.

-It's not somewhere we'd want to live.

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Despite its failings, this house is still £20,000 over budget

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and it's looking like this move might not be about feel, but exchange rates instead.

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After another disappointment, the family head out of the city to a far more familiar setting.

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Glamorgan Vale is a rural community in the outback.

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With fewer than 500 residents, it's a quiet backwater with a similar feel to home.

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Like today's other houses, this three-bedroom property needs renovation,

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but its wrapped-around veranda looks out over ten acres of land,

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offering a peaceful alternative to life in the city.

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OK...

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-So we've come in here to the kitchen, I think.

-Mm-hm.

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-It's a reasonable size.

-Yeah.

-Yeah, it's a reasonable size.

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-Wow, yeah!

-Yeah...

-Wow!

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The features are really nice like these things and those doors.

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-It needs just lots of love and care.

-Yeah, this is all right.

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Although it needs a lot of work and renovation, I really... I feel better here.

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-Definitely.

-It's got potential and I like the location.

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It's a bit further to travel, but you'd be willing to travel that distance

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to have somewhere to live like this sort of area.

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That's a far happier Lee and Lucy and the children are already getting to know the locals.

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Don't touch it on its head. It doesn't like it.

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You're a good horse. Yes, you are.

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Pets, large and small, wouldn't be a problem here.

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In fact, there's plenty of room for everyone.

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-There's a lot of potential here.

-Mm-hm.

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But faced with a tight budget, is this a house not for now, but perhaps the future?

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-Ready? Shall we turn this over and see how much it's worth?

-Are we going to get a shock?

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Oh, wow!

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-OK.

-Yeah.

-So it's a little bit less...

-215,500.

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Yeah.

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Although it's a renovation project,

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it didn't really put me off.

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It wasn't like a bad feeling.

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It was just... It was a good... It felt fine, didn't it?

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It felt nice going round and having a look round at the possibilities

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and getting a bit of inspiration about what we could do.

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It does put a lot more pressure on me for the work, which is a little bit worrying.

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I'll be working a lot of hours and I'll be away a lot,

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having to earn the money in order for us to have this.

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But in saying that, you sometimes have to do that in order to get what you want.

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Despite being way over budget, this house impressed everyone.

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And after seeing how tough a move may be, Lee has ended the day on a high note.

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The first property had the right feel and plenty of potential,

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but its price tag came as a nasty surprise.

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Although cheaper, the second was definitely not wanted down under!

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And even though it may be out of reach for now,

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the final house showed everyone

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a glimpse of what outback living is all about.

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So we've looked today at three properties

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and now it's time to vote, guys.

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-OK.

-OK.

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-UK.

-I don't know!

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Australia!

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-The houses ultimately didn't appeal to me. The land at the last house did.

-Yeah.

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But when I'm looking at the costs,

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that's where I kind of sat, based on what we've seen.

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Seeing those three properties, it's not finalised whether I could vote one way or the other,

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so that's why I chose "I don't know".

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OK. Yeah.

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-So a bit split.

-We couldn't be more split if we tried, guys, could we, really?

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We've got a mixed bag.

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A mixed bag. A mixed bag of fruit.

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A mixed fruit bag.

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Those high property prices got the week off to a difficult start for the McGrath-Jacksons

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and affording a new life down under already looks like it's going to be a tall order,

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so could their work prospects in Australia make up for a very disappointing day?

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At home, Lee is the manager of a charitable company

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that reconditions computers for the disadvantaged.

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It's a job he loves that offers more rewards than just salary.

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It's the other half of my life. If I'm not with the kids and Lucy, I'm in work.

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It's very important that I'm in a job that I enjoy,

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I get that sparkle, I get that lift in the morning going to work.

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It's his skills that hold the key to getting a visa and living Lucy's dream.

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And finding a job that could pay the bills and fulfil his passion

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would be a big step in the right direction.

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-Hi. Lee?

-Yes.

-It's Mark. Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you, mate.

-Come with me for a chat.

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OK, thank you.

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Mark Simms manages a company similar to Lee's, but can he offer some much needed good news?

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Mark, you've seen my CV. Do you think there's an opportunity for someone like me with my skills

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-in this area for that type of work?

-I think so.

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Looking at what you've achieved, it's great. We're looking to set up a second branch in Logan,

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-the next city to Brisbane.

-OK.

-Doing a very similar thing, trying to reach out to that community.

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-OK.

-So it's quite good that you came at this time because your skills could be utilised in running that.

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That's an ideal start. And across town Lucy's hoping for more of the same.

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While the children are being looked after by a child minder,

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she's meeting Kelly, a fellow practitioner to talk about their love of Australian flower therapy.

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We've got enough people who understand us now

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that there's a really solid footing, but we're still on the ground level, with lots of room for movement.

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And lots of people are starting to become interested and engaged,

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not only in this medicine, but the actual bush flowers themselves.

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A lot of people I work with are doctors and physiotherapists. That's really taking off,

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that understanding of working together.

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It sounds like both could find work, but making Lucy's dream happen depends on how much they'd earn,

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particularly Lee, who's the main breadwinner.

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So what sort of salary would you be looking at for a role such as that?

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-Typically, we'd pay 40,000-50,000 per year.

-Yeah?

-There's a lot of potential in developing the business

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that could certainly help you bring that figure up a bit.

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No, that sounds very reasonable. Superb.

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That's comparable to what Lee earns at home,

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but would working Down Under give him time to spend with the family?

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In the UK, it's quite heavy-going on workloads. Is it similar here?

0:23:360:23:41

Yeah, I guess it probably is. I'm pretty passionate about what I do,

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so I tend to put quite a few hours into it and we do a fair bit of work overseas, so there's timezone issues

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as Australia doesn't match up to a lot of other countries.

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So Lee could end up working long hours for a similar wage.

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It's not really what he wanted from a new life in Australia,

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but could Lucy's earnings offer a silver lining?

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If you're going to do consultations, most people charge 50-60 an hour.

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Then usually 10-15 per essence on top of that.

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So if you're doing four consultations a day, you could do that. Or if you do one a day,

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you're still pulling in quite good money.

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Finding clients may take time, but the figures sound good.

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However, for Lucy, the day's been about far more than money.

0:24:310:24:36

It really is special to hear it from someone who lives here who is Australian born and bred

0:24:360:24:42

and really has a connection with plant life here.

0:24:420:24:45

Just to know that the amount of money you'd earn is the same as I'm earning in Scotland,

0:24:450:24:51

that's great. It's really good.

0:24:510:24:54

While the children round off the day with a picnic,

0:24:540:24:57

Lucy catches up with Lee to hear his news.

0:24:570:25:01

Yeah, really, really positive. Hopefully with the possibility of work there as well.

0:25:010:25:07

-And what about the finance? Did that pan out?

-Again, the finance was quite good,

0:25:070:25:13

comparable to the UK, probably a little bit more.

0:25:130:25:17

It's flipped my head around. I'm a little bit pickled in my brain because I didn't expect it.

0:25:170:25:24

-But it's certainly something that's looking pretty positive, yeah.

-That's great.

0:25:240:25:30

-That's really great.

-Yeah, it is. Yeah.

0:25:300:25:34

For Lucy, it's probably the easiest decision of the week,

0:25:340:25:38

but once again Lee is cautiously positive about living in Australia.

0:25:380:25:43

So has he seen enough to convince him that working down under could be worth leaving the job he loves?

0:25:430:25:49

-Australia!

-I don't know!

0:25:490:25:52

-Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense. That's where the flowers are.

-It wasn't a surprise.

-It wasn't.

0:25:550:26:02

The flowers grow here. It's like a dream to me, so being with them would be brilliant.

0:26:020:26:07

-Agreed, yeah.

-So it's a definite, 100%...

-Australia.

-What about you?

0:26:070:26:12

-I still can't...

-Can't decide.

-I can't decide at all.

0:26:120:26:16

The offers that I had were superb.

0:26:160:26:18

-I still worry if it's going to be enough, financially. It's the unknown a little bit.

-Yeah.

0:26:190:26:25

There's a little bit of fear there, but brilliant

0:26:250:26:29

and I'm moving round! The UK flag is slowly disappearing. Yeah, cool.

0:26:290:26:34

Lucy's passion for her therapies was never in doubt, but Lee's prospects have him in two minds.

0:26:380:26:44

As much as this move was about fulfilling a dream,

0:26:440:26:48

it looks like hard facts will decide whether it can come true or not.

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To help Lucy and Lee figure out the cost of living Down Under,

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we've prepared a comparison of their household expenditure in Australia and back home.

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One thing that has really shocked me here is 4 litres of milk.

0:27:030:27:08

-Organic milk.

-Yeah. £7.40!

0:27:080:27:12

That would be a problem for me. I wouldn't drink...

0:27:120:27:16

normal milk, nor would the kids. So that's a bit of a problem.

0:27:160:27:21

-That's hugely different. We eat organic a lot, don't we?

-Yeah.

-And we did wonder about that.

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-We didn't know how accessible things were.

-We know it's expensive.

-It would be, yeah.

0:27:270:27:32

Organic food is an important lifestyle choice for the whole family, but will it add up here?

0:27:320:27:39

-That week was £92.36.

-Yeah.

0:27:390:27:42

-But it would be £148.

-We're getting close to 50% higher.

-That's... It is, yeah.

0:27:420:27:48

-Rent or mortgage...

-This is the UK, isn't it?

-OK.

0:27:480:27:53

Lee and Lucy pay a low rent on their family home, so to make the figures comparable,

0:27:530:27:59

they've based their mortgage payments on the cheapest property they viewed.

0:27:590:28:04

Let's add this up and see what it costs to live in Australia.

0:28:040:28:09

-OK, so we're down in Australia.

-Minus.

-Yeah.

0:28:110:28:16

-£198.49

-OK.

0:28:160:28:20

So there's a difference in there of £600.

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In theory, I think that impacts in a way which makes you start questioning your whole lifestyle,

0:28:250:28:32

which would be questioning would the kids have to go back to school,

0:28:320:28:36

-would I have to work full-time.

-To be honest, yeah.

-I would.

0:28:360:28:41

-We'd have the choice to home educate the kids.

-You can't just put them back because of money.

0:28:410:28:48

-No.

-We've just got to earn more money. Just earn more money.

0:28:480:28:53

The numbers don't lie and living in Australia could mean making big changes to the lifestyle

0:28:550:29:00

the McGrath-Jacksons love. But is that a price they are willing to pay to live here?

0:29:000:29:07

We've done some figures for cost of living and now it's time to vote.

0:29:070:29:11

-Don't know.

-Don't know.

0:29:180:29:20

OK.

0:29:200:29:22

It's stacked up against us, but then it didn't feel like it did,

0:29:220:29:26

-even though it did on paper.

-On paper it didn't look that hot, but there are things you can work on

0:29:260:29:32

-to balance it out.

-So not giving up just yet. Not based on money, never.

0:29:320:29:39

Lee and Lucy are staying positive, but a jump in living costs could mean facing some hard choices.

0:29:470:29:53

With question marks hanging over this move, Lucy must show her family what inspired her dream.

0:29:530:30:00

A taste of the Aussie lifestyle could be just the ticket.

0:30:000:30:04

Back in the UK, Jack, Rosie and Poppy are home educated.

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It's an important part of their way of life and one Lee and Lucy would be keen to continue in Australia.

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They're used to having a network of home educators and family to support them,

0:30:180:30:23

so today they're visiting a local community centre to meet like-minded mums and dads.

0:30:230:30:29

So you were happy home schooling in Scotland and obviously that's been a good experience for you.

0:30:290:30:36

-Were you worried about coming out here and continuing to do that?

-I don't think we're worried.

0:30:360:30:43

If it's meant to be, it will be and it will all sort of fall in.

0:30:430:30:47

It's good to find places like this to share and not to feel alone.

0:30:470:30:52

-We're coming out here, there'll be no family.

-Yeah.

0:30:520:30:56

-Which is a concern.

-It's like anything. You can be as involved as you choose to be.

0:30:560:31:01

If you want to do a lot in the community, you can do that.

0:31:010:31:06

You can make it cater to you.

0:31:060:31:09

Making friends would be vital in continuing the lifestyle Lee and Lucy believe in.

0:31:090:31:15

It's no problem for the children.

0:31:150:31:17

Is it true that some people say that there's a magic leprechaun that lives in Scotland?

0:31:170:31:23

They came from Ireland. In Scotland,

0:31:230:31:27

the thing you might not know about is the Loch Ness Monster.

0:31:270:31:31

While the zoology lesson continues, Lucy reflects on how her thoughts about Australia have changed

0:31:310:31:38

since she last visited.

0:31:380:31:40

It's been really different coming out with a family.

0:31:400:31:43

I'd been looking to come here so much and when I got here, we still have to wash up, cook,

0:31:430:31:50

all these things we do in the UK. It's shown me that - this sounds cheesy -

0:31:500:31:56

but happiness comes from within, not from the outside world.

0:31:560:32:00

If your family are happy, you could live anywhere and it wouldn't matter.

0:32:000:32:05

That's been good for me to see.

0:32:050:32:07

But have Lee's eyes been opened, too?

0:32:070:32:12

Everything's as I'd pictured it.

0:32:120:32:14

Has it changed my mind about living in Scotland? I'm not sure.

0:32:140:32:18

It's great to know there are networks like this to support you,

0:32:180:32:23

but they're not my family.

0:32:230:32:26

Meeting like-minded families would be crucial in building a life so far from home,

0:32:260:32:32

even if they could never replace those left behind, but has the Aussie lifestyle won their vote?

0:32:320:32:39

Based on Australian lifestyle, we are now going to vote.

0:32:390:32:44

Australia!

0:32:480:32:50

Middle.

0:32:500:32:52

-Why did you choose 50/50, Rosie?

-I chose 50/50 because I still like playing in Scotland.

0:32:520:32:59

-You do like playing in Scotland.

-That's a first for me.

0:32:590:33:03

First Australian win for Lee!

0:33:030:33:07

-The lifestyle feels... more relaxed and more in my favour here.

-Yeah.

0:33:070:33:13

It's almost a full house, but now Rosie's in two minds.

0:33:130:33:18

I don't know. I just would miss... Because it's so far away, I'd miss my family and my friends mostly.

0:33:180:33:24

Yeah, hmm.

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A day sampling its lifestyle showed the family all the benefits of living in Australia

0:33:300:33:36

and, much to Lucy's delight, nearly everyone was won over.

0:33:360:33:41

But Rosie's words could be a warning as they watch messages from home.

0:33:410:33:46

Lucy and Lee have decided to watch the DVD together with the children,

0:33:460:33:51

-so everyone can share what's being said.

-OK, everybody ready? I'll press the button.

0:33:510:33:57

-Hi, guys!

-Hi, guys! How you doing?

0:34:000:34:04

Hi, Lee, Lucy, Rosie, Poppy and Jack! Gammy and Gampy here.

0:34:040:34:08

Hi, Lu, Lee, Rosie, Poppy and Jack! We're sure you've had a fantastic time out in Australia.

0:34:080:34:15

I think one of two things will happen with Lee.

0:34:150:34:18

He'll either go there and think, "I should have done this 15 years ago,"

0:34:180:34:24

or I think it's going to reinforce the fact that he's always lived in Scotland,

0:34:240:34:30

he does like Scotland, he's a home bird, Lee. A home bird.

0:34:300:34:35

I think if they decide to stay in Australia,

0:34:350:34:38

it'll be great for the children to experience an outdoor life.

0:34:380:34:44

It would be totally different here without them. Yeah, it would be a big hole, really, to fill,

0:34:450:34:51

which you probably couldn't.

0:34:510:34:54

-You know if you did go out there...

-Don't worry at all because we'll be over to see you.

0:34:540:35:00

-We're missing you...

-And we will miss you.

0:35:000:35:05

Staying out there, if you decide to stay out there, it's your choice. Nobody else's.

0:35:060:35:14

I just hope that you make it for the right reasons and take everything into consideration

0:35:140:35:21

because it will be very difficult for us. We will miss you.

0:35:210:35:25

-And, er...

-And we don't want you to go.

0:35:250:35:29

But if you do, then...that's for you to do.

0:35:290:35:34

OK, hug for Daddy.

0:35:380:35:40

It was always going to be hard with your parents, wasn't it?

0:35:420:35:46

-No, no...

-You've got a thingy on the end of your nose. It was always going to be difficult.

0:35:460:35:52

We knew that, you know, we knew that,

0:35:520:35:56

but...they knew we weren't always going to be in Scotland forever.

0:35:560:36:01

Yeah, I know. It's just it's the other side of the world.

0:36:010:36:06

-I know. It's a bit far.

-It would be easier...

-In the UK.

-Somewhere in the UK.

0:36:060:36:12

Lee's tears came as a real shock to the family and showed just how much loved ones mean to them.

0:36:160:36:22

But if they can't face the pain of leaving them, it could be the end of Lucy's dream.

0:36:220:36:28

With their future in the balance, it's time to make their final vote.

0:36:280:36:33

The experience we've had out here so far,

0:36:390:36:42

it's obviously a beautiful place to live.

0:36:420:36:46

But then there's home. And home is home to me. I really, really don't know.

0:36:460:36:52

I am genuinely torn.

0:36:520:36:55

There's no point coming across the world for Lee to be miserable and missing home.

0:36:550:37:01

At the same time, if Lee doesn't try something new, he might spend the rest of his years in Scotland

0:37:010:37:06

and think, "I wish I'd done that when I was younger."

0:37:060:37:11

At first I didn't want to go to Australia, but now I've been here I like it much more, yes.

0:37:110:37:17

I really do like it. You've got to try something first.

0:37:170:37:21

It's more sunny, so you can go out more and have an adventure.

0:37:210:37:25

I don't feel like I'm going to live in Australia

0:37:250:37:30

and then I don't feel like I'm going to live in Scotland. So it's going to be a bit awkward.

0:37:300:37:38

Lee started this adventure daunted by the prospect of leaving home and loved ones.

0:37:380:37:44

But now Lucy's dream rests in his hands.

0:37:440:37:47

So after seeing all the McGrath-Jacksons could gain and lose by emigrating,

0:37:470:37:52

-where will their final vote take them?

-All right, guys. We've had a lovely week Down Under.

0:37:520:37:59

And now we've got the final vote.

0:37:590:38:02

-Are you ready?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:38:020:38:05

OK, go.

0:38:050:38:07

-Australia!

-Don't know!

-UK!

0:38:170:38:20

-So why did you vote, well...?

-I think it's been probably kind of obvious the whole time.

0:38:290:38:35

There's no problem with it here. There's just a problem with...

0:38:350:38:40

-do I want to be at the other side of the world, away from my friends, family?

-You know,

0:38:400:38:45

you don't have to see it as the rest of your life. It could just be an adventure, something new.

0:38:450:38:51

-It's a difficult one. We need to get back, sit down as a family...

-And process it a bit.

-Process it.

0:38:510:38:58

You never know. Come back and speak to me in a couple of weeks and it might be that way. I don't know.

0:38:580:39:05

After experiencing the highs and lows of living Down Under,

0:39:100:39:14

the McGrath-Jackson family still have plenty of thinking to do.

0:39:140:39:18

So has Lucy managed to win them all over or has being home been too big a reminder

0:39:180:39:25

of what they'd leave behind? I've come to find out.

0:39:250:39:29

'Since we last saw them, the family stayed on in Australia and did some more research.

0:39:290:39:34

'They returned just a few days ago.'

0:39:340:39:37

When we last saw you, Lee, you said you wanted just a little bit more time

0:39:370:39:43

to mull it all over, take it all in.

0:39:430:39:46

It was quite a short period of time to absorb everything, especially when I wasn't pro-Australia.

0:39:460:39:53

And my heart was still held in Scotland.

0:39:530:39:57

That's the big tie I have back in the UK. Friends and family.

0:39:570:40:02

So we used Skype over there back to friends and family, which was great.

0:40:020:40:08

-And that did again break me slowly into the Australian lifestyle.

-That makes a big difference,

0:40:080:40:14

-being able to see grandparents, they see grandchildren.

-Absolutely.

0:40:140:40:19

It does open it up, but if you can't afford that lifestyle, it's not going to work.

0:40:190:40:25

Absolutely. I think it would depend greatly on what I'm doing with my work also.

0:40:250:40:32

But in terms of Lee's job, he would hope to earn a bit more than what was on offer.

0:40:320:40:38

-There are lots of opportunities that will allow us to be out there.

-So there are avenues

0:40:380:40:45

-that you're exploring, shall we say?

-Very seriously.

0:40:450:40:49

That extra few weeks has given me the time to absorb everything,

0:40:490:40:54

take it on board and do my practical thing.

0:40:540:40:57

-Shall we get the children back in and do it one last time?

-Definitely!

0:40:570:41:02

-Kids, are you there? Fancy a final vote? Come on in.

-OK.

0:41:020:41:06

Would you like to vote for the final time?

0:41:080:41:11

-ALL: Yes.

-OK. Let's get the flags.

0:41:110:41:14

There we are. We'll get Mummy and Daddy to join you.

0:41:140:41:19

This is it. For one final time, is it going to be the UK or Australia?

0:41:190:41:25

-UK!

-Australia!

-Australia!

0:41:300:41:33

-UK!

-Oh! So it's still a split vote, isn't it?

-Split still.

0:41:330:41:38

Yeah.

0:41:380:41:39

-So who's changed their mind?

-You stayed the same. I've changed.

0:41:390:41:44

Daddy's changed. So, Lee, this is a huge change.

0:41:440:41:48

It is, yeah. Some of the things we were looking at doing

0:41:480:41:52

was getting out there for short periods of time and living there 3-6 months,

0:41:520:41:58

maybe some sort of consultancy work.

0:41:580:42:01

-So mine is on the proviso that...

-We can do that.

-That way.

-And come and go a bit.

0:42:010:42:07

If I can do it in those bite-size pieces and get more of a feel, living and breathing it,

0:42:070:42:13

working there, then it may become more permanent. I don't know.

0:42:130:42:19

It shows the way forward. Anything's possible.

0:42:190:42:23

And what about you guys? Are you surprised Daddy voted Australia?

0:42:230:42:27

-Yeah!

-If it all goes to plan, you'll pop back to the UK as well.

0:42:270:42:32

Best of both worlds! We wish you all the very best. Let us know how you get on.

0:42:320:42:37

-We will.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:42:370:42:40

-Bye!

-Bye!

0:42:400:42:43

That's great news.

0:42:430:42:45

After doing some more research, it seems they can afford the life they want in Australia.

0:42:450:42:52

And Lucy's dream is one step closer, this time for everyone.

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