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What would you do if you passionately believed | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
there was a better life waiting for you on the other side of | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
the world, but the person you love the most didn't share your dream? | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Would you follow your head or your heart? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
Richelle Barker is passionate | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
about moving to the other side of the world. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
I absolutely fell in love with New Zealand | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
through geography in school. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
And she's desperate for her mum to join her. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
We're less like mother and daughter and more like best friends. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
But for mum Lorraine, that means facing an unbearable choice. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
I can't see me being in New Zealand, thinking, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
"My God, I've left my mum." | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
So when their trial week's over, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
will mother and daughter face the future together or apart? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
Whatever's going to happen, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
someone's potentially going to lose their mum. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Roughly the same size as Great Britain or Japan, New Zealand | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
boasts almost 9,500 miles of coastline and sandy beaches. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
With most parts of the country | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
enjoying over 2,000 hours of sunshine each summer, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
it's not difficult to see why, for almost 40 years, it's been | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
one of the top ten destinations for UK residents choosing to emigrate. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Richelle has one week to convince mum Lorraine | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
to uproot her entire life and start afresh down under. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
When it's over, they'll face a decision | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
that could change their lives for ever - | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
whether to stay in the UK or to take the plunge and moved to New Zealand. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
The Barkers' journey begins by flying 12,000 miles with | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
stops in four different time zones. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
So, after a marathon 30 hours of travelling, how are they feeling? | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
It was very long, very sweaty, with weird food, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
but the sun is shining and - whoop, whoop - can't wait. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Despite the long flight, the ladies seem to be in good form. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
It still hasn't hit home. We were on the plane, saying, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
"We're going to New Zealand." It just doesn't feel real. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Yeah, this is my dream to come here | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
and to actually get that, it's just... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
It hasn't sunk in and I don't think it will for quite a while yet. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
But, with just one week to persuade her mum life would | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
be better in New Zealand, Richelle will need to find her bearings fast. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
Back in the UK, classroom assistant Lorraine | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
and 18-year-old daughter Richelle live in this three-bedroom | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
bungalow in Kinmel Bay, North Wales and, as relationships between | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
mothers and daughters go, they don't come much stronger than this one. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
'We are extremely close.' | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
We're less like mother and daughter and more like best friends, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
really, and she is my rock, my best friend, my confidant, you know, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
my everything. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
They spend almost all their spare time together. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
We go to these Country and Western festivals and we dress up | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
with our Stetsons and boots and we do a bit of line dancing. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
We go for walks together. We have our nails done. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
She's even talking lately about me going round the clubs in Rhyl. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
At 50, that is not an option. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
But the relationship is being put to the test, with Richelle trying | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
desperately to convince her mum to follow her dream | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
and move to New Zealand, even though neither have ever been. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
Everything Richelle seems to do, it's all with New Zealand in mind. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
'I absolutely fell in love with New Zealand through | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
'geography in school, where we | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
'saw these amazing mountains with the snow. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
'The backdrops are fantastic.' | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
They've got nice holiday destinations with beaches, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
just like we have here. Only they have the summer for it. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Lorraine emigrated to Australia in her 20s, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
returning to the UK before Richelle was born. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Now, older and wiser, she doesn't know | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
if she's got the strength to do it all over again. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
At 50, I can see pitfalls and I can see problems arising, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
financial difficulties. Will I be getting a job? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
'Will I be able to settle? Will I be able to make friends?' | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
And I'm really quite concerned if I'm doing the right thing or not. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:32 | |
A legacy from Lorraine's time down under is Australian passports | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
for her and Richelle, meaning they won't need visas for New Zealand. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
That should make a move straightforward. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
But if Lorraine was to leave Wales, she'd also have to leave her mum. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
My mum has always been there to help, both me and my daughter. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
She's always lived just down the road away from us. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Always phone each other every day. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
I can't see me being in New Zealand, thinking, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
"My God, I've left my mum." | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
Richelle's original idea was for her nan to go with them but health | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
issues mean it's extremely unlikely she'll be able to make the move. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Richelle's all too aware of the emotional turmoil her mum faces. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
This is part of my dilemma. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
If we go out to New Zealand and my mum is not happy or not settled, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:22 | |
that would break my heart to see my best friend unhappy. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
Richelle's dream of a new life down under means Lorraine will | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
have to choose between her mum and her daughter. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
It seems that whatever's going to happen, someone's potentially | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
going to lose their mum, whether it's me with you, or you with your mum. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
It's a dilemma all round. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
For their first-ever trip to New Zealand, Richelle and Lorraine | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
are visiting the Greater Auckland region in the North Island. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
It's the most populated city in the country | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
but, surrounded by hundreds of small suburbs, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
it promises plenty of opportunity for an outdoor lifestyle. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
Home for the week is a two-bedroom cottage in Coatesville, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
a small community about 18 miles north-west of the city. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
With Richelle keen on a rural home down under, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
this spot could be perfect. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
LORRAINE GASPS | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
-Oh, my God. -Wow. -That is fantastic. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
No, Mum, it's the little cottage on the left, I think. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
I don't care if it's that garage. It's fabulous. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
She's not out of the car yet, but I think Lorraine is impressed. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-Died and gone to heaven. -Is it just this part or is it...? Oh, no. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
I think it's just this part. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Their two-bedroom rental cottage is attached to the owner's home | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and forms part of a traditional Kiwi lifestyle plot, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
so it should be right up their street. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
OK, so this is the kitchen. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
So, it's really small. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
I wouldn't mind washing up though. No dishwasher. Just that amazing view. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
I'll keep you up for that. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Nothing's going to dent Richelle's enthusiasm. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
I love these big, quirky rooms and the campfire. Absolutely amazing. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:11 | |
-Have to learn how to work that. -Lovely. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
There's different, funny, funky room shapes, isn't there? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -Not square boxes. -Have you seen the view? -Oh. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
That is what I am talking about. Beautiful. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
These lifestyle blocks are absolutely amazing. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Richelle's mission to sell the New Zealand lifestyle to her mum | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
has well and truly begun. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Sold. Have squatters got rights over here? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
It's amicable now, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
but the coming week will put this relationship through the wringer | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
if Lorraine can't be convinced of a future in New Zealand. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
I'll just have to suck it and see, find out some more first. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
-But first day, first feeling... -Impression. -First impression - | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
it's absolutely beautiful. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Home for the Barkers in the UK is a three-bedroom detached | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
bungalow in Kinmel Bay, North Wales. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
But if Richelle can convince her mum to move, what sort of | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
house would they be looking for in New Zealand? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
My dream house would be a wooden, weatherboard house, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
three bedrooms, big private plot of land, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
half an hour to an hour away from civilisation. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
I do like wooden houses and I don't like square boxes, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
so anything that's quirky or a little bit different. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
-Yeah, so, some of it is quite similar, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
There's one thing we agree on, anyway. Just location. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Got this idea of having chickens and sheep. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
I'd be happy with just a dog. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
The Barkers' property budget for New Zealand is £200,000. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
To show them what their money might buy, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
we've selected three properties. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
One on-budget, one their ideal home, and one in between. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
After seeing each, they'll find out what they cost. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
First stop is the farming region of Kaukapakapa. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
45 minutes from the centre of Auckland, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
it's a popular area for people wanting to combine city working | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
with rural living, so it should appeal to Richelle. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
This four-bedroom property has plenty of room inside. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
And with 2.4 acres outside, it could also give Richelle | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
the space she needs for those sheep and chickens. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-Wow, what do you think of this? -It's a view, isn't it? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
They've got a little tree swing as well. It's quite cool. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
-Nice approach. -Yeah, it's really nice. It's a nice deck. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
I hope they've got one on the other side as well | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-cos that's where the view is. -Oh, it is lovely. -Very nice. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
So far, so good. But what about the inside? | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
It does need a lot of TLC, I think. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
But they've got the space to do it with. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
But would they have the inclination? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
I don't know. Let's... | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
That's nice. Wow. A brand-new cooker. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
-It's not a bad size. -It's really nice. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
-It would have to be... -Modernised. -Mm. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
But depending on the price, I mean, things could be done with it. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
I'm not sure Lorraine is entirely convinced. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Safe to say we won't be buying the furniture. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Richelle needs to find something to please her mum - and quick. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
-This is bedroom number one. Decent size, isn't it? -It is. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
I suppose the bed is big so it's taking up some room. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
They've got cowboy hats, Mum. Ready for us to move in. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Nice try but not sure it's going to be enough. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-There's a lot of money to be spent here. -There is. -It's old electric. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
And it's...everything from carpets to curtains. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Skirting boards, ceilings. Interior doors as well. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
And that noise all day with the lorries passing. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
-Yes. -You're right on a busy road. -It's a highway. -It's a highway. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
-They're doing 100km. -Yeah. -Well, we'll see. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
They are underwhelmed by the interior of this house, and with | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
the busy road running parallel, outside could be a problem, too. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
I'm just not feeling it here. With that road, I think... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
We're not used to it, aren't we? It's just... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I know it's not very frequent, those cars, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
but it's just there and you can't change that. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
It's not quite the rural retreat the ladies first thought, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
but Richelle isn't giving up just yet. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
So, what would you want to put on here? 2.3 acres. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Just sheep and chickens. Cos this is what we wanted. Well, what I wanted. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
-Yeah, I don't know about "we" there, but... -Yeah, this is... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
-This is ticking boxes from the outside. -Uh-huh. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Just not sure about the house. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
This house has the land Richelle wants | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
but will it be within their reach financially? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
Well, our budget is £200,000. I'm going to say 160. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
Because of the work that needs to be done on the house. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
-Do you want to turn over the card? -Hmm! | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
-OK, here we go. -SHE HUMS A FANFARE | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Wow. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
So, that was quite a lot more than what we expected. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
-It must be the area. -It's the lifestyle block. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
It's the lifestyle block. That's what you're paying for, I suppose - | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
that land. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
-I thought our budget would be quite enough to buy a better house. -Oops. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
The real cost of lifestyle living | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
is threatening to derail Richelle's dream. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Will the next house lift her spirits? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It's a well presented three-bedroom house | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
in the small township of Parakai. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
It's further away from the city centre | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
so should offer more value for money. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Well, it's very suburban. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Squashed in with thousands of others. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
It's not ticking any of my checklist. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
OK, it isn't quite the lifestyle block Richelle is looking for, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
but could the inside win her over? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
-Let's have a look inside. -House number two. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Oh, wow. That's...amazing. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
-It's a bit more... -Compared to the other house. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
-It's open plan, isn't it? -Yeah, I love open plan. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
-Oh, wow. It's a nice kitchen. -Yeah. Nice workable kitchen, isn't it? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
So much more positive than the last place. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
-There's not much to do at all here. -I know. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-I love the way it flows outside. -Yeah, that is nice. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
-Nice and clean as well, isn't it? -Yeah. -There's nothing to do, really. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
But is there outdoor space for Richelle's livestock plans? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
It's a really nice garden. It's a really low-maintenance garden. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
-A nice bit of decking. -But there's no way for chickens, or for sheep. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
You can't have everything. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
And a lack of space for animals isn't the only problem. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I can see about 50... 50 houses in one glance. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
I know it's quiet now but you've got kids on the weekend. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
So, outside isn't perfect. Perhaps it's time to go back indoors. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
-Oh, so this comes into the lounge? -Very nice. -It's big enough. I mean... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
Yeah, there's only two of us. It's fine. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
-Oh, this is a nice size. -Oh, wow. Yeah, this is lovely. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
Nothing to do here - new electrics, new carpets. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Right. So, it's a main bathroom. And it's got... | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
a washing machine in. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
OK. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
I don't think I could fit in that bath. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
-That's not a bath, that's a shower. -For your feet. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
-It's... It's usable. -Usable. If you're the Hobbit, it's usable. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
The bath's too small, the neighbours too close, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
but can they actually afford it on their £200,000 budget? | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
How much do you think it is worth? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
House-wise, it's a good...good place. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
But squashed and with all that, overlooking, no privacy - | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
I think £200,000. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
-Am I being realistic? -I don't know. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
I said 160 on the last place when it was 283. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
Shall we see how much it's worth? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
-A-ha! -OK, so it's under budget by £5,000. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
So, it's £195,000, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
-NZ355,000... -Good guess. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
..so it's less than our budget | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
but we'll still have to get a mortgage for it. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
There is nothing to do, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
so you wouldn't be spending any more money | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
if it's only your own mark on it, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
but you're still coming down an alleyway, you're still overlooked. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
Well... | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
I don't think I can afford my dream. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
That's quite a frightening aspect of it. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
Today certainly isn't going to plan. And, with Richelle now questioning | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
whether they can afford the dream home in New Zealand, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
any chance of persuading Lorraine to make the move could be irrelevant. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Can property number three offer them both the right price and location? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
This four-bedroom house is in Helensville, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
within easy commuting distance to central Auckland | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
and, with plenty of social clubs and activities nearby, it could | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
give the Barkers the community feel they're yearning for. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
-It's a real cottagey look to it, isn't it? -It's got the veranda. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
And it's got a chicken. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
That's got to be a good sign! | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
Oh, look, Mum, it's got a campfire. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
It's an old pot belly thing. That's a nice feature, mind, isn't it? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
-It can be lovely and warm in the winter. -It's a really nice room. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
It's a nice open plan. It flows into the dining room, which is quite nice. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
Oh, that's a nice sized kitchen. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
It needs a bit of TLC, but I think it's... | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Yeah, it's the size we're looking for and that's | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
really ample for the two of us. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
It's looking promising so far. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
-First house with stairs. -It's really strange. There are nice. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
Lovely spindles. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
-We haven't lived in a house with stairs for years. -I know. -Oh, wow. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
-It's quite a big sized room. -Wow, it's huge, yeah. -Oh, it's nice. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
-Nice and...breezy and cool. -It's lovely. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
It's got a really nice view as well. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
Inside seems to have won Richelle and Lorraine over | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
but will the garden offer more privacy than the last property? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Nice. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
Considering, houses, you can see houses at the back | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
and at the sides, you're not looking in somebody else's window. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
You feel like you're private. Secluded, really. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
This house seems to work for them, inside and out. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Your own little oasis. It's lovely. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
But will it be priced to please? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
It's got to be over £200,000. But how much by? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
I'm going to put my neck out, not knowing the area or prices - | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
235. £235,000. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
-Right, OK. -But I could be well off the mark. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
I'm going to say it's bang on our budget at £200,000. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
Right, do you want to go for it? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
-Oh. -Halfway between the two of us. -It was, yeah. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
-£217,000. -Which is NZ395,000. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
That's nearly £20,000 over the Barkers' budget. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
But if Richelle and Lorraine can secure well-paid jobs, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
it might not be out of reach. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
-So, it's round about what I was thinking... -Yeah. -..but...yeah. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
-So, it's quite a nice house, isn't it? Nice area. -Yeah. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
It is. It is nice. You can't really say much different. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
The house prices are so much more expensive than I imagined. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
It's been a bad start to Richelle's week as the real cost of | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
the kind of property she wants has been revealed. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Property one offered the lifestyle block she's been dreaming of | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
but at a price they weren't prepared to pay. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
The second house was more affordable but was too overlooked. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
And the final house was almost perfect | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
but just beyond their budget. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
So, based on what they've seen today, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
will the Barkers vote for a property in the UK or New Zealand? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
We've had a real eye-opener today looking at the three different houses | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
around New Zealand and, based on what we've seen today, we vote for... | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
-..UK. -I'm very undecided. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
And I'm surprised that you have picked the UK. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
It's been a really surprising day. It's just been super disappointing. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
I just thought we could get | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
so much more for our money than what we've been shown today. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
Richelle's dreamt of a new life in New Zealand for almost ten years | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
but the true cost of property could put the move on ice | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
if she can't find the right job with the right salary. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Back in the UK, Richelle earns around £10,000 a year | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
as a full-time accounts assistant, while studying for her final exams. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
I'm not on much at the moment, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
as I'm just on an accounts assistant wage, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
but if we do go, we will need a mortgage, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
we will need finance on the cars, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
so the right salary to cover those bases would be fantastic, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
would be needed. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
As a classroom assistant for young people with learning difficulties, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
Lorraine earns a similar wage. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
She loves her job, but is willing to be flexible in New Zealand. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
I know beggars can't be choosers, and at 50 I'm not sure | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
I'm going to have a lot of options, but I would like to think | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
that I would gain a similar position. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
As part of their fact-finding week down under, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
we've arranged for Richelle and Lorraine | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
to explore the local job market. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Lorraine has come to the Wilson School | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
for children with special needs in Takapuna | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
and hopes Principal Jan Kennington can put some of her worries to rest. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
I am 50, and I'm just a little bit concerned. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Is that too old to be applying for posts for a teacher's aide? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
Age isn't a barrier, in my view. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
I think that would be the case in most special schools in New Zealand. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
What we are looking for are people who are passionate | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
about our students and are fit and able and ready and willing | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
A large number of our students | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
have got a significant physical disability, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
so we need people who are able to help with hoisting them, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
moving them, positioning them | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
and taking care of all of their physical needs. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
So it's really more a question of what you're prepared to do, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
-rather than what you are qualified to do. -I see. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
That's exactly what Lorraine needs to hear, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
and if she's happy, it could take some of the pressure off Richelle. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
Yesterday was very disappointing, so today... | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Everything is riding on today, really. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Richelle will be graduating as an account technician soon | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
and hopes her qualifications will be transferable to New Zealand. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
To find out, she's meeting Martin Richardson, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
Director at a local accountancy firm. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Once our graduates have finished university, there's still | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
another three or four year training programme | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
-to get into the New Zealand Institute. -Right. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
So there's a Foundations programme that takes the first year, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
then there's another two or three years, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
so you get work experience and you get on-the-job training. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
So if I were to emigrate, I would have to do the extra three, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
-four years? -Yes. -To be recognised? -Yes, I would think so. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
That would mean more studying for Richelle, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
but it isn't putting her off. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
So are there many job opportunities for someone like me | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
-emigrating out to New Zealand? -I think so. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
It obviously depends on your CV and how good you are, but currently | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
we're employing for next year's grad intake, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
so all the accounting firms in Auckland will do | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
a grad recruitment around this period. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
The bigger firms will take up to 50 or 60, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
so there could be 300 or 400 grad jobs going. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
Sounds like Richelle could have more job opportunities | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
here than in the UK. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
What kind of salary would I expect with my age? I am only 18. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
Well, currently we're offering 44,000 for the graduates | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
that we're taking on next year, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
and after the three years in getting experience you'd move through | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
to a senior, and the starting rate | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
for seniors is about 65,000 currently. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
About two years later you can get to manager, which is about 80,000, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
and then basically, the sky is the limit after that, really. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
-Wow, that is brilliant. -That's great news. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
If Richelle was earning around £24,500, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
it would be more than double what she makes at home. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
This could put her dream back on track, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
if Lorraine's happy with the possibilities in her line of work. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Are there jobs available? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
And where would I go to find out where they are? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
There certainly are jobs available in special schools, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
but also supporting students in mainstream schools. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Most of the advertising happens through the local newspapers. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
Good news again, but will Lorraine fare as well on the financial front? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
Middle of the range teacher aides | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
would be earning about 16.50 an hour. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Because you're only working 25 hours a week over 44 weeks, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
that would work out somewhere between NZ18,500-NZ19,000. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:27 | |
That equates to just over £10,000, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
slightly more than Lorraine gets at home. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Has the day addressed some of her concerns? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
I am just so happy that this segment of my big question... | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
Being 50 is something I can't change, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
so it has to be either they accept me as I am or it's a no-goer, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
and today, it was so positive, I don't see a barrier any more. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
After a disappointing start to their week, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
work opportunities have proved much more positive. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
But are Lorraine and Richelle a step closer | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
to making a new life together in New Zealand? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
We've had a really interesting day today in Auckland | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
looking at all the job possibilities and, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
based on what we found out today, we're going to vote for... | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
-Really? -Oh, yeah. -Wow! -It's been awesome. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
It's been really interesting and I've been blown away by what | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
-I've found out. -Fantastic. Auckland's winning you over, then? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
New Zealand, no surprise. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
It's just amazing, I was blown away by how much support is given, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
the salary, and the chance to progress within the career and grow. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:45 | |
That's exactly the path I'd love to take. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
Exploring work options proved to be a really positive experience | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
for both Richelle and Lorraine, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
but Richelle knows there's a long way to go yet | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
if she's to persuade her mum to move halfway around the world. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
Could a day experiencing the New Zealand lifestyle help? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
The country's landscape makes it perfect | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
for a wealth of outdoor activities. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
In the UK, Richelle loves off-road driving, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
so the day gets underway with a four-wheel-drive experience, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
offering her the chance to combine her hobby | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
with her love of the great outdoors. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
I feel so excited to actually | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
be on a four-wheel-drive tour in New Zealand. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
It's going to be so good. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
-LORRAINE: -Oooh! | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Not sure Lorraine is quite as excited! | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
LORRAINE SQUEALS | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
It certainly beats rush hour in Kinmel Bay. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Can you see where we're going? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Go on, Richelle, put your foot down! | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
If they move to New Zealand, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
this is something Richelle could enjoy on a regular basis. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
Oh, my God, that was so cool! That was really, really steep! | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
I just love four-wheel driving. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
But if her dream is to avoid biting the dust, she needs to remember | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
today's about selling the lifestyle to her mum, too. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Oh, my God, what an experience! | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
I don't think it would be quite for me because I would be so frightened, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
I can't even see a track for a vehicle. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
To go for it on a track that doesn't look like a track... | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
Phew! It just blows your mind. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
Blows your mind. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
The jury's still out. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
Perhaps a chance to do as the locals do, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
and explore the scenery from the seat of a saddle, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
will be more to Lorraine's taste. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I think it was last year when we went out on bikes last. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
So cold. It takes the joy out of it then, doesn't it? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
If you've got a place like this, with this view and these houses... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
-Oh, yeah, beautiful. -Absolutely fabulous. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
Sounds like this could be more Lorraine's pace, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
and Richelle's happy, too. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
I want to be more active, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
and when you've got the weather and the scenery, you can't beat it. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
New Zealand could definitely offer Richelle more action, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
but she knows her mum still faces a difficult decision. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
If she wants to stay at home with Nan, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
obviously that's her decision, but I've got to go where my heart is, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
and my heart's definitely in New Zealand. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
That's a real turning point for Richelle, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
who until now couldn't see a future in New Zealand without her mum. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
But if Lorraine decides to stay put in the UK, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
it might be her only option. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
I can see a fabulous lifestyle here. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
But... | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
would I be happy knowing my mum is alone and lonely in the UK? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:44 | |
And me as her only surviving daughter, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
11,000 miles away, having a good time? Whoop-whoop! | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
I don't think that would sit well with me, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
I don't think that's right at all. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
No matter what Lorraine decides, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
she's going to have to say goodbye to someone she loves. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
If Richelle decided to move to New Zealand without me, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
I would feel lost, but it is only natural progress. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
I know I would feel lost, cos, since the age of three, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
it's only been her and I. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
If it has to be, it has to be. She's her own person. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
Tough decisions lie ahead but, based on what they've done today, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
has Lorraine seen enough to want more | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
of the lifestyle New Zealand could offer? | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
We've explored so much of what New Zealand's got to offer | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
lifestyle-wise and, based on our experiences today, we vote for... | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
-New Zealand! -New Zealand. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
-Really?! -Yeah. -It really is winning you over! | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
It is, I've got to say. It's been an awesome day | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
and it's just unbelievable what opportunities there are. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
And today has just... It just opens your eyes to possibilities, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
and I'm really impressed. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
-Really good, I'm really glad. -Whoop-whoop! | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Lorraine seems to be coming round, but could mother and daughter | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
actually afford the lifestyle Richelle wants? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
They believe their house back in the UK is worth £150,000, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
so we sent round two estate agents to find out for sure. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
God, it doesn't seem like our place, does it? | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Yes, very nice lounge-dining room, nicely decorated. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
I can smell... It smells like they might have had a dog | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and I'm afraid that odours are really a no-no, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
so I would suggest that they got some air fresheners in. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Cheeky devil! -I know, right? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
The kitchen's a nice size with fitted units | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
and plenty of room for appliances. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
And there's also a nice, modern gas central heating system. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Here we are now in the master bedroom. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
It's a double bedroom with fitted wardrobes, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
which are nicely presentable. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
A good-sized space for a double bed, so a good room as a master bedroom. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
This bedroom's particularly appealing, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
nice position overlooking the lovely garden. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
Still has some nice modern features, wall features, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
nice and bright and neutral colours, easier for somebody moving in. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
You could put any colour in there, couldn't you, really? | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Modern bathroom, very pleased to see. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
It's a white suite, which is very typical today. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
Yes, very nice room. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
Horrible tiles. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
A three-bed, three-bedroom, detached property in this location | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
in today's market, we would hope to achieve in the region of 140-145. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
For a quick sale, I would suggest putting it on the market at 139,950. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
-No chance. -No! | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
For this particular bungalow, in this particular location, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
I would advise an achieve sale price of £140,000, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
and for a quick sale I would recommend no more than 135. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:59 | |
That's £10,000 less than they were hoping for. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
It used to be quite an expensive area, didn't it? But... | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
It's a sign of the times, I think. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
It's not a great start. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
But can number-cruncher Richelle makes the figures work | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
when comparing potential living costs in New Zealand to the UK? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
First up is a comparison of their weekly food bill. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Milk, four pints. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
NZ, the difference is £1.75. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
-For milk. -Wow. -For four pints. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
-So it's cheaper in the UK. -Mm-hmm. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
Richelle will need to think quick | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
if she's going to keep Lorraine onside. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Chicken is cheaper, and rice is cheaper in New Zealand, as well. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
But are they cheap enough to make a difference to the food bill? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
That's 47.99 in the UK... | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
and 73.84 in New Zealand, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
so that is £25.85 difference. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
And this is a weekly shop, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:55 | |
so you're looking at £100 a month difference. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
-Yeah. -Roughly. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
-£100. It's quite a big... -It is quite a lot. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Even basing their calculations on the cheapest property they saw, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
it's suddenly looking like an expensive move. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
But will Richelle's pay increase be enough to pull them out of a hole? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
But we haven't taken into account the combined income, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
which is £637 per month, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
so that leaves us... | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
We're £415.55 better off in New Zealand. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
-A month? -A month. -For real? -For real. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
-Oh, my God, that sounds really good. -It is pretty good. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
-Let me write that down, how much are we better off? -£415.55. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
Well recovered, Richelle. That's a great result. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
So, now they're in the money, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
how are Richelle and Lorraine going to vote? | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
Today we did a comparison check on the cost of living in New Zealand | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
and, based on what we found today, we're going to vote for... | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
-Really? -Yes. -Wow! | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
This is looking really good. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
I was quite surprised. With a mortgage, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
as well as the other factors involved in cost of living, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
I thought it was quite favourable. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
-Yeah. -I was really surprised. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
Over £400 better off to live in New Zealand a month. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
Yeah, I was quite surprised. So for that reason I voted for New Zealand. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
It's another good result for Richelle, but Lorraine's always | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
been concerned that starting again in a new country may not be as easy | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
for her as it will be for her 18-year-old daughter. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
They're both keen country music fans at home, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
so we've arranged a trip to the local line dancing club | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
to give them a taste of the social scene New Zealand could offer. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
Is it a good way of making friends, joining this kind of club? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Absolutely. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
I mean, that wasn't my prime reason for doing it, it was exercise | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
and I liked the music, but, yes, I've made great friends. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
And then we're socialising outside line dancing, as well. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
There are quite a few groups around, so some of these ladies go to | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
several different classes during the week, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
they might go three or four times, so you get different groups | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
of friends and then you get to know other ones and different groups. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
-That's brilliant. -It's awesome. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
It's small steps, but Richelle's dream of having her mum by her side | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
in New Zealand could be getting closer. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
It looks like they're getting into the groove. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
COUNTRY MUSIC PLAYS | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
She's certainly enjoying the music, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
but has this evening given Lorraine the answer she's looking for? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
It's a really good way of making friends, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
and it could be just that little thing extra that entices me | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
to think, "Wow, I could go for it," you know? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
Just on something like this. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
BOTH: Yee-hah! | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
It's been a positive week for Richelle, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
as, one by one, here mum's concerns | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
about a life in New Zealand have vanished. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
But with Lorraine still worried about leaving her own mum, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
the biggest hurdle is still to come, as the pair sits down | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
to messages from their loved ones back in the UK. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
Hello, Lorraine, hello, Ric. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
I hope you're finding what you're looking for, my love, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
and the weather's kind to you. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Hiya, Lorraine, hiya, Richelle. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
I hope you've had a fab time, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
I hope it's been what you expect it to be | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
and I hope you haven't enjoyed it too much. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
Hi, Ricky, I hope everything's going all right. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
I know you'll be enjoying it already, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
and I just hope you're having fun, mainly. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Hello, Lorraine, hello, Richelle, I hope your week has gone | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
really well, I hope the weather's been really good. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
They're the loveliest two people I've ever met in my life. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
You have to go a long way to meet anybody like that. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
I know I'm their mother, and you shouldn't talk like that, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
but I'm telling the truth. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
Smashing two people, inside and out. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Lovely. I love them to bits. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
-Don't tell them! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Ricky is a fun, bubbly, crazy, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
generally nice, happy person, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
and I'm glad I met her. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
It'd be a fantastic opportunity for her. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
Part of me doesn't want her to go, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
even though I don't see her very often, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
and then I think, well, it would be a nice holiday to New Zealand, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
as well, if she does, maybe once every few years, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
to catch up with her. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
If they move.... See, I'm starting already, sorry. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Oh, I'll miss her terrible. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
I know she's there when I need her, do you know what I mean? | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
And I think sometimes a friend | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
hasn't got to be living on the doorstep. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
They can be just somebody you know is there for you, you know? | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
Oh, I'll miss them with all my heart, but... | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
it's life, I accept that. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
I'm not a one to sit and cry. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
As long as they're together and look after each other, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
and they're happy, that's the main. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
That's what I do think. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
No, I don't want Richelle to go, I'd rather she stayed... | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
..with all her friends. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
Ric, Lorraine, you've been out there for a week, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
you should know what it's like, you should go with your instincts | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
and go and have a ball. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
As long as you find happiness, your old mum is happy. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
One of these days I'll knock on your door - | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
Ric, get that cup of Oxo on. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
I'll be out there to see you. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
All the very best, love, I'll miss you both, bye. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
That was a bit more emotional than I thought it was going to be. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
And, listening to my mum, she didn't seem | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
very positive there about... | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
She seemed like waving us off, that's how I felt, that she was... | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
It's the final sort of, "I won't hold you back, but adios." | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
So it didn't seem any input from her that she would | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
contemplate coming with us. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Watching messages from loved ones is incredibly emotional, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
and for Lorraine it's brought home | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
the heartbreaking dilemma she now faces - | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
having to choose between her mum and her daughter. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
Richelle's been dreaming of a life in New Zealand for almost 10 years, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
even though she'd never been. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
It was my dream to come out and it hasn't hindered my dream in any way | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
coming out, in fact it's escalated it, which is brilliant. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
It's just an amazing country. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
-It's very similar to Wales, mind. -Yeah, it's beautiful. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
But Richelle's biggest challenge was always going to be convincing | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
mum Lorraine to start a new life on the other side of the world. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
It's been quite a turbulent journey for me, emotionally, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
and from the beginning, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
when Richelle started to say about New Zealand, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
I was a bit torn inwardly, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
because, obviously, I'd never been to New Zealand, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and I'd never been 50 before, so that was a new adventure, as well. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
The week's assured Lorraine she's young enough to start again, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
but Richelle knows she's still torn over leaving her mum back in the UK. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
My nan is quite a frail lady, she's 82 now, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
and I think my mum would stay with her. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Could this be the end of the road | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
for Richelle and Lorraine's life together? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
This is my dream and there's no going back for me. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
I've had an incredible journey with Richelle, seeing her grow up | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
and tutoring and mentoring her, and I really want to carry on that. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
Even if it's from a distance when she's got her own family, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
I really want to carry on doing that. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
With her hopes still pinned on New Zealand, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
Richelle's future with her mum is uncertain. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
It all comes down to this moment. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
Will Lorraine's final decision delight or devastate her daughter? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
We have both had a really adventurous week out in New Zealand | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
and, based on all our findings, we vote for... | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
New Zealand. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:47 | |
UK. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
Nah, only joking! New Zealand! | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
-Really?! -Yes, really! | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
I've got a feeling I don't even want to go on that plane to go home. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
I know! How weird is that? I just feel that this is it. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
-My heart sank so much then! -I had you. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
-I really don't want to get on that plane to go home. -Wow. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
-I am so glad. Really? -Yeah. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
I'd say give us 18 months and we'll be there. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
-I really feel that strong about it. -That's amazing. -I want to die here. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
Not particularly this week... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:42:24 | 0:42:25 | |
Not this week, not for a long time, but I just feel like this is it. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
I want to restart here, I want to retire, and that's it. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
Wow! Oh, my gosh! | 0:42:34 | 0:42:35 | |
That's amazing! So, 18 months? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
18 months, let's do it, let's get out here. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
-That sounds awesome. Get the house up for sale. -Whoop-whoop! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
-Argh! -Whoop-whoop! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
When it came to the final decision, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Lorraine just wasn't ready to let her daughter fly the nest, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
and Richelle got the result she'd been desperately hoping for. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
Thanks to her nan's blessing, Richelle could be packing | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
for a life in New Zealand sooner than she thought with her mum. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
We wish them the happiest of times. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 |