Hoffman Family Wanted Down Under


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Imagine if you believe moving

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to the other side of the world

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would improve your family's

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quality of life,

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but your partner didn't buy into the idea.

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How far would you be prepared to push them to achieve your dream?

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Lisa Hoffman's determined to convince partner Matthew

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to leave rural Wales for a life on the other side of the world.

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I just want to open Math's eyes.

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Like, there's a world out there, and we need to explore it.

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He's more than settled at home.

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I can't do what Lisa would do, and just jump straight in.

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But when he's awakened to the possibilities...

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The houses here are just absolutely amazing.

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We are better off by £3,360.

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Will he have the confidence to vote for Australia

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on the final turn of the cards?

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Them two is all I've ever wanted,

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and, erm, I have to make sure that

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I keep them happy for ever, because I don't ever want to lose them.

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Australia is the sixth largest country in the world,

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but with a population of only 23 million,

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there's plenty of space for everyone to enjoy its sun-drenched beaches

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and laid-back lifestyle.

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Around 600,000 Brits have made the move in the last 20 years,

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but over a third of them have returned home -

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proof that moving to the other side of the world

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isn't for everyone.

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Lisa has just one week in Brisbane

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to convince partner Math that Australia

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really is the land of opportunity.

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At the end of the week, they'll face

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a potentially life-changing decision -

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whether to stay in the UK

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or to make the move down under for good.

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To get to Australia from the UK, Math, Lisa and baby Ellie

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spend 23 hours in the air

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stopping in three different time zones.

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And when they finally touch down in Brisbane,

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it's with a sense of relief.

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The last bit that had the 13½ hours one long straight...

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That was quite hard. Especially with a little one.

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Math's decided that he's not going home now. He can't do it again.

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I can't do that any more. I've just got to stay.

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That could work in Lisa's favour,

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but how does it feel to get her feet finally on Aussie soil?

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I was really dubious of what to expect,

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and what was going to happen when I arrived,

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but, yeah, it feels really good.

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I'm just looking forward to the week now.

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Will the country live up to Lisa's expectations,

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or will the challenging week ahead result in broken dreams?

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Back in the UK, Matthew Owen, commonly known as Math,

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and Lisa Hoffman live with baby daughter Ellie

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in the rural village of Carmel in North Wales.

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The couple are proof opposites really do attract.

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Imagine it as a road - Math's happy to go along that road,

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carry on going, carry on going,

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where I'll go along and maybe turn left a bit,

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maybe come back and go a bit right...

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And just like their personalities,

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their careers have taken different paths, too.

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I've been a joiner since 16.

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I've been self-employed now for five years.

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How many jobs have you had?

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I've done everything - supermarket, call centre, office...

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pubs....

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Lisa finally found her vocation as a nurse

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and the job opened her eyes

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to the potential of a new life in Australia.

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Somewhere they advertised jobs in the nursing magazines,

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so it's something that you can do.

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You can go out there, get a job.

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But thoughts of moving down under disappeared when Lisa met Math

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and moved to Wales.

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The dream's now back and she's desperate for him to share it.

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I just want to open Math's eyes to exploring.

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Like I keep saying to him -

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there's a world out there, and we need to explore it.

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Math's reaction to the idea has been a bit, well...

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laid-back.

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I was, like, you know, whatever -

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just carried on with my work like I do,

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and just let her do what she does.

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She's never visited the country,

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but Lisa is convinced Australia will offer the family

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a more adventurous life.

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Outdoor living, being by the beach, having the sun.

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The wildlife out there,

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the city-stroke-outback on your doorstep.

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The list is endless.

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Lisa wants a new life, but getting Math to leave

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the Welsh-speaking community he was born in,

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is going to be a struggle.

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I want to be able to talk Welsh with my daughter,

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because from the moment she was born, I have spoken Welsh to her.

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Math's never left home.

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He's never moved away.

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He's always lived pretty much in the same village.

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He's never know anything different. We back onto his family.

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We can shout out the door and they're there.

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Leaving loved ones behind will be tough for the couple,

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but Lisa believes it's a sacrifice worth making

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to give Ellie a better, brighter future.

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At the moment, in this country,

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I'm worried that we won't be able to give her

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the opportunities she wants, and that she needs.

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That's why I'm hoping Australia will be able to give her that.

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Math wants the best for Ellie, too,

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but while Lisa is ready to move halfway around the world for it,

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he's not.

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Lisa would go to Australia tomorrow if she could

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and just try and make it work.

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I don't want to get to the age where I would turn around and say,

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"Oh, me and..." - even to Ellie - "me and Math, or me and your dad,

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could have moved to Australia,

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because they needed our jobs, but we just never did."

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I need to make sure that this gamble will pay off.

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I can't do what Lisa would do and just jump straight in.

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I have to make sure that it's a good gamble.

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Despite the fact she's never been herself,

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Lisa's desperately hoping the week ahead will be enough

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to convince Math to take the plunge,

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and make the move down under.

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For their trial week, the family will be staying

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at this three bedroom house in Bribie Island

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just over 40 miles north of Brisbane.

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It's a world away from Wales,

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and the couple's first taste of Aussie living.

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It's lovely!

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Quite big, as well, isn't it?

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I like the colour of it.

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Math's liking what he sees, too,

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but will he be happy indoors?

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-Come in.

-Oooh!

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Oh, wow!

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-I love it.

-It's quite nice, isn't it?

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It's very nice.

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-A bit small.

-Weird, though, having a bedroom at the front of your house.

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A bedroom beside the front door may not be what they're used to,

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but it's a very common feature of Australian houses.

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Look at this, a living room, within the kitchen...

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A lot of Australian homes are like this, but that's why I like it.

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This is probably bigger than our house, just this room.

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Please don't tell me that's a bar!

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-Oh, see, there we go.

-Oh, it's sold!

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-SHE LAUGHS

-Look at me!

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Oh, my God.

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What do you want?

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Math's settled right in,

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and Lisa's impressed with the view.

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It's lovely. That water down there..! That does it for me.

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Look at the space in it!

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You can even have a boat!

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I'll get a dinghy.

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I can afford a dinghy.

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A dinghy.

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It's beautiful. Look at it.

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Like a millionaire's row.

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-It does feel it.

-Yeah, proper!

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It's a promising start to their week,

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but with so much riding on the next couple of days,

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has it put Math in a positive frame of mind.

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It's shown me how my life could change for the better.

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And just by standing here now, I know...

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There's going to be...surprises coming my way.

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If we don't decide on this week,

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I don't really see what other point there is.

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Or what other hope there is of choosing to come here,

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because it's either we're coming or we're not after this week,

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because we can't get a better insight than we'll have.

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All the things has to be thumbs up first to stay here.

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In the UK, home for Math, Lisa and Ellie

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is this three-bedroom house in Carmel, North Wales.

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They bought it four years ago

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and have worked hard to make it a home.

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I completely gutted the whole house.

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I'm proud of what I've done.

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It's a nice house.

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It's not the perfect house,

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it's not the perfect location,

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but I think it's a happy home.

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I love the house that we live in.

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The only downside to the house that we've got now,

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is that we don't have a garden.

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We've got a little yard for Ellie to play in,

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so eventually we'd have to move from here, anyway.

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If they decide that move will be to Australia,

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they intend to keep their house and rent down under.

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For me the dream house in Australia

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would include amazing outdoor space.

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House-wise, as long as it's modern...

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The couple have a rental budget of up to £1,500 a month,

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and for both of them,

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where they settle will be important.

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I'm not bothered about the house,

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just give me a nice house -

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I want it to be...

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centred around family.

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Other families.

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I want to be in the middle of the community which comes together.

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Math did say that he wouldn't mind living somewhere

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a lot cheaper and a bit run down,

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so we could save, save, save to get somewhere brilliant.

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But I think that would make the move a lot harder,

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if you don't like where you're living.

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To show Lisa and Math what's available in the Brisbane area,

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we've selected three properties -

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one on a budget,

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one their ideal home and one in between.

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After seeing each, they'll find out what they cost.

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First up is a fully-furnished two-bedroom apartment in a gated

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complex in the suburb of Caboolture, 27 miles north of Brisbane.

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Just a few blocks from the local hospital,

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it could be handy for Lisa but with only communal grounds,

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will it be the family-friendly home Math's after?

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Bog or bathroom?

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I like it, it's modern-y.

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-Well, it's clean and it's a bit small, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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Oh, utility. I don't think it matters that it's this small.

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What else do you want to do in here?

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Yeah, but I don't know, it's just like a hotel, like.

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Lisa's happy but it's not a good start for Math.

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Yeah, it's nice, I like it.

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It looks like your brother's flat, the layout.

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It does remind me of somewhere I lived when I was single.

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-You know what I mean?

-It's not really baby-friendly.

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Yeah, well, it's not... It's not a house.

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At this rate, the bedrooms better be pretty special because Math's

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definitely underwhelmed by this compact apartment.

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-Is this the master bedroom or...?

-I think it is.

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It's not that big. It's similar to what we've got at home...

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But where would you put your clothes?

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Yeah, well, we've got a bigger one of these at home and you felt...

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We need a bigger one, obviously.

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I'm not keen on it because it's a flat at the end of the day.

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When we go on breaks and stuff, to Manchester or whatever,

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this is what you stay in.

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This is a nice place to stay over the weekend.

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I can definitely tell you that it's not where I want to stay

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-and live, I would not live to Australia and live here.

-Yeah.

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-That's definitely a no for me, yeah?

-OK.

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Math's far from impressed

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but Lisa's spotted something that might perk him up.

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Well, that's really good to have a pool.

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Yeah, but still, it's like a sharing pool.

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I've always said that I'm not bothered about a pool.

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I don't want a house with a pool but if there's one where the

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-price fell away we can afford, then that's great...

-All right, Math.

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I'm not bothered with a pool.

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I think Ellie would benefit from a pool.

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We could just go to the sea, yeah?

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That's where you like, you like the beach and the sea.

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Well, I like the pool, it's a bit of a sell for me.

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-Yeah, well, it doesn't do it for me.

-It's all about you.

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It's Math who needs to be wowed over

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if the couple are going to make the move.

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While this apartment may not quite be working for him, would it be

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something they could afford on their rental budget of £1,500 a month?

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This is it.

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You pick it up, you find out the price.

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OK.

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Wow, so it's...

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Well, £1,000, we could definitely afford £1,000.

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Yeah, that's reasonable for it, I think.

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Yeah, yeah, but, obviously, we need more so...

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We need a bigger place...

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-More space.

-..so it's bound to be higher.

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At least we know it's going to be the top end of our budget.

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Well, I'm glad that's not 1,500 because it would mean that...

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-It would be too big.

-Yeah, it would've been a shock.

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Even though the apartment had little appeal for Math,

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discovering it was within budget has given him

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some hope they'll be able to afford their dream home.

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Leaving Ellie with a childminder, next stop is a four-bedroom

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house at Banksia Beach, a suburb of Bribie Island.

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Connected to the mainland by a bridge,

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the island's 45 minutes away from Brisbane.

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That can mean more value for money

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but properties tend to be snapped up quickly.

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Will this house be more in line with what Math's looking for?

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-This is exactly what we want.

-It's peaceful, a cul-de-sac.

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There's not much houses but it's nice, you've got lovely grass.

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-Double garage.

-I love it, I'm excited to see it. And the water.

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The beach is there, there's a park there.

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This is like nothing compared to the other one. This is what we want.

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They've got butterflies as well.

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He's happier already.

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-Jeez.

-SHE GASPS

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-I love it. Wow!

-This place is amazing.

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-Yeah, it's really big.

-And it's got a bar here as well.

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-I don't know about the bar.

-I do know about the bar.

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We don't need a bar in our living room.

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Well, I never thought a bar would be in a living room,

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having never wanted one.

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I do now.

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But after such a promising start, Math soon finds fault.

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The kitchen's a bit old.

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-As we're renting, it does what it needs to do.

-Yeah, yeah.

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If you owned it, then you just...

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The rest of it's really good, I'd just do the kitchen.

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This property has plenty of room for visiting family and friends

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but the bathroom's a bit of a let-down.

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I don't know about the bathroom.

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Oh.

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THEY LAUGH

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-OK, the bathroom's a bit...old. Small.

-Retro.

-Retro, yeah.

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That's what they call it, retro.

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Hmmm, it's not the modern look Lisa's after but will the

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generous outside space be enough to recapture their initial excitement?

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Wow, more space.

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More space, there's like more and more and more space here.

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-Yeah, outdoor space is important.

-Oh, this is brilliant.

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-I like the idea of this overhead...

-Oh, see, I'm not 100% keen on it.

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No, well, I like it because, don't forget, it gets hotter...

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-Yeah, yeah.

-..so it's lovely and warm here now

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and then for their summer, it's going to be even hotter,

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it's going to be nice and shaded, Ellie's going to be shaded.

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Unlike their home in the UK, this property would offer Ellie

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plenty of freedom both in and out of the sun.

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I love it.

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Outdoor space as well so you're not just...

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If it was just a shaded area, it would be difficult for me

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to like it but...

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Yeah, see, that's brilliant now cos we can come here,

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-out in the sun, two places to shade on. The place is massive, eh?

-Yeah.

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We can have big parties here.

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The outside space has won Lisa and Math over

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but will their rental budget of £1,500 a month be enough?

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-I like this place a lot.

-It's lovely.

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The other property was £1,000 and that was like one room here

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so I'm expecting it to be sky-high so...

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Let's see.

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Let's have a look, eh?

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That's just...

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£1,178 a month.

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That's only like £150 more than the other one

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-and the other one would fit in one of these rooms.

-True.

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And it's much nicer, it's out of the city, that's what I want.

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-There's a lovely garden.

-It's beautiful.

-The beach is there.

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-Yeah, quiet.

-That's definitely affordable.

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It's been a great viewing with this house offering a lot of what

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Lisa and Math want and at a price that's right.

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And there's still one more property to see.

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Also situated in Banksia Beach,

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this modern four-bedroom bungalow is within walking distance

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of the waterfront and park and this time, Ellie's back on the scene.

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I love it. Do you love it?

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-This one looks...

-Expensive.

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This one I don't think we can afford, Li.

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I don't care, I'm having it.

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-This one's like a palace, isn't it?

-Yes.

-A proper one.

-It's lovely.

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But will they be as taken with the inside?

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Wow.

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Oh, my God, look at it, Math, look at the middle!

0:18:140:18:17

-It's like a tropical garden.

-Oh, my God.

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It's stunning, yeah? It's amazing.

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Could this be the house that puts Math on the path to

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fulfilling Lisa's dream?

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-That's a nice... See, this is better.

-Ooh, I love this.

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-It's a bit bigger, it's nice and dry.

-Yeah, it's really bright.

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Oh, nice shower, look at that!

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ELLIE MOANS

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-She likes it.

-Yeah, Ellie does like it.

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The modern interiors are definitely going down well

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and they haven't seen the half of it yet.

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-Oh, my God.

-You are joking me!

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THEY GIGGLE

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This is the most amazing house I think I've ever been in.

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I can tell you this, I don't think we can afford this.

0:19:020:19:05

-I don't think I've been in a nicer house.

-No, this is... No.

0:19:050:19:09

It's insanely big.

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It's even bigger than the other one which I thought was insanely

0:19:100:19:13

big, this is...

0:19:130:19:15

This is just ridiculously massive.

0:19:150:19:17

This house has also had an unexpected effect on Math.

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I'm not being silly, I'm quite emotional that we were

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actually looking at something like this.

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-And he's not the only one loving it.

-It's beautiful, eh?

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I'd be very happy if Ellie could grow up here, wouldn't you?

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Oh, it's lovely.

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The house has plenty of space for visitors which will be

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important if the couple do make the move.

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See, the size of this.

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I know, have you seen the shower? A sink for me and a sink for you!

0:19:490:19:53

Oh, my God, there's two showers in it.

0:19:530:19:55

That's a really good idea, you can clean your own.

0:19:570:20:00

It's amazing, yeah?

0:20:040:20:05

-Yeah, this is what dreams are made of, to be honest.

-Definitely.

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And if they thought two showers were impressive,

0:20:090:20:12

the pool and landscape garden have the couple completely smitten.

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Imagine like...

0:20:170:20:19

Yeah, the barbecue and...

0:20:190:20:21

-No, I'm not imagining because it's too upsetting.

-You're not imagining?

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No.

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This house has knocked the couple for six but with £1,500 to

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spend on rent every month, will it be within their reach?

0:20:330:20:36

I can't wait to see what this is now.

0:20:380:20:40

I'm dreading this because I know we're going to be disappointed.

0:20:400:20:43

I know, I'm a bit like that.

0:20:430:20:46

-Shall I turn it over?

-Yes.

-Right then.

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-In a dream world, it would be good.

-Yeah, OK.

-Fingers crossed.

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And it is...

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THEY GASP

0:20:550:20:57

-Really?!

-That's nothing.

0:20:570:20:59

-That's completely shocked me.

-Some millionaire house!

0:20:590:21:02

I think we deserve it, especially for her. She deserves it.

0:21:020:21:07

She needs a park.

0:21:070:21:10

Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting a bit emotional.

0:21:100:21:13

You idiot.

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Lisa and Math's house-hunting started slowly with an apartment

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well within budget but which Math couldn't imagine calling home.

0:21:210:21:24

Property 2 ticked a lot of boxes,

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but was let down slightly by the dated decor.

0:21:260:21:29

And the final house offered everything

0:21:290:21:31

they were looking for and more.

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And discovering it was within budget was almost enough to bring

0:21:340:21:37

Matthew to tears.

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So, after a triumphant end to the day,

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will properties have been enough to win Math over?

0:21:410:21:44

-Australia.

-Definitely Australia.

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The houses here are just absolutely amazing. The last one is just...

0:21:500:21:54

It's something else, yeah?

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And we've got a chance to be living in something like that

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so Australia definitely wins.

0:22:020:22:04

And no doubt for me, Australia.

0:22:040:22:08

I sort of knew that it would be anyway

0:22:080:22:10

but I'm just glad we saw houses that backed that up.

0:22:100:22:13

Seeing Australian property they both love

0:22:180:22:21

and can afford has really captured Math's heart

0:22:210:22:24

and Lisa's hoping a day sampling the Aussie lifestyle will bring him

0:22:240:22:28

even closer to sharing her dream.

0:22:280:22:31

Today, they're visiting Brisbane's South Bank.

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With parkland, promenades and plazas packed with cafes

0:22:370:22:40

and restaurants, it's a popular venue for family days out.

0:22:400:22:44

-It's a lovely shaded area.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:22:440:22:47

Are there fish in there, do you think?

0:22:470:22:49

This should give the family an idea of what their lifestyle

0:22:500:22:53

here could be like.

0:22:530:22:55

South Bank is also home to a unique man-made beach.

0:23:010:23:06

Oh, it's nice.

0:23:060:23:07

Where we live, we don't have much access to stuff like this cos

0:23:120:23:15

the nearest city is about an hour and a half, two hours away from us

0:23:150:23:19

and it's got nothing that this city's got to offer.

0:23:190:23:22

It's a world away from Wales

0:23:220:23:24

but will it be enough to entice Math to the other side of the globe?

0:23:240:23:27

Just looking at Lisa, you know, today,

0:23:270:23:32

I mean, she loves the city anyway, it's me that's been trying to

0:23:320:23:35

distance us away from the city but, I mean,

0:23:350:23:37

this city's absolutely beautiful and to have this just off the city

0:23:370:23:42

is amazing so I'm happy, she's definitely happy.

0:23:420:23:46

And Ellie's really looking happy.

0:23:470:23:50

Securing a positive future for her is what the move is

0:23:500:23:52

all about for Lisa.

0:23:520:23:54

At the moment, Math's working seven days a week just to try

0:23:540:23:57

and pay our bills and stuff so we don't really see him

0:23:570:24:00

very often so I know he misses spending time with Ellie.

0:24:000:24:04

But this precious time with his daughter has also reminded

0:24:040:24:08

Math of the importance of his roots.

0:24:080:24:10

If we were to live here then there's a lot of pressure on me

0:24:100:24:13

to try and push the Welsh language on her because it's something

0:24:130:24:18

that I need to do, it's a personal thing that I need to carry on.

0:24:180:24:24

With his Welsh background so important to him,

0:24:240:24:26

Lisa knows getting Math to agree to a move is still a massive challenge.

0:24:260:24:31

To make the move here means a lot to me

0:24:310:24:33

because we need this for a better quality of life

0:24:330:24:38

and I think if we come away from here and go home

0:24:380:24:41

and just get back into the daily goings of work, that's not a life.

0:24:410:24:48

Time to find out if Lisa's in with the chance of getting what

0:24:480:24:51

she dreams of as the couple choose between lifestyle in the UK

0:24:510:24:55

and Australia.

0:24:550:24:57

Ellie's had an amazing day, we've had an amazing day too

0:24:570:25:01

so now it's time to vote.

0:25:010:25:04

BOTH: Australia.

0:25:040:25:06

This is definitely what you've always wanted.

0:25:060:25:09

To be honest, I'm happy doing this

0:25:090:25:11

because it's such a beautiful place to be, so win-win.

0:25:110:25:16

This isn't just a one-off, it's like this all the time

0:25:160:25:18

so we could have this.

0:25:180:25:20

Math could be warming to the antipodean way of life

0:25:250:25:28

but ultimately, Lisa knows if they're ever to afford the lifestyle

0:25:280:25:31

Australia can offer, getting jobs to pay for it all will be essential.

0:25:310:25:36

Back in the UK, she's a children's nurse looking after

0:25:370:25:40

the needs of young people in care.

0:25:400:25:42

Finding something similar in Australia is a must.

0:25:420:25:45

It's really important that I get the right job and the right salary.

0:25:450:25:49

Again, one, because Math needs to know that all these

0:25:490:25:53

things are set up to secure the move and the future.

0:25:530:25:57

Math's been a carpenter for 15 years.

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It's a job he takes pride in and finding a similar-paid

0:26:000:26:03

role in Brisbane is crucial to the move.

0:26:030:26:06

It's all about that I have to get that right,

0:26:060:26:08

especially to start with, and I have to make sure that, on paper,

0:26:080:26:12

everything works out right

0:26:120:26:15

before even taking that risk.

0:26:150:26:17

While Ellie's looked after by a childminder,

0:26:180:26:21

Mum and Dad set out to discover what sort of employment

0:26:210:26:24

opportunities might await them in Brisbane.

0:26:240:26:27

Math is meeting builder David Smith who runs one of Queensland's

0:26:290:26:33

biggest home construction firms

0:26:330:26:34

and it's not long before they're talking technique.

0:26:340:26:38

The only thing you'd really do is just the frame and then

0:26:380:26:41

you'll come and do the second fix, make sure the job's nice and tidy.

0:26:410:26:45

Other than that, you've got your job set for you and that's it.

0:26:450:26:50

That's great, similar to what we do.

0:26:500:26:52

Ideally, Math would like the security of working

0:26:520:26:54

for an employer but he's also keen to know, if he had to,

0:26:540:26:58

could he continue being his own boss in Australia?

0:26:580:27:01

To become self-employed,

0:27:010:27:02

do you have to do some sort of training or is there like a course?

0:27:020:27:06

I've heard that you...

0:27:060:27:08

Yeah, there's a contractor's course that's

0:27:080:27:10

held by the Building Services Authority

0:27:100:27:14

and they'll assess you on how competent you are

0:27:140:27:17

and then it goes to the BSA and then they'll give you a licence

0:27:170:27:21

and then you can go out and work as a carpenter

0:27:210:27:24

so it's not a hard ask, it really is pretty easy.

0:27:240:27:27

Math's hearing all the right things

0:27:270:27:29

and hopefully Lisa's getting on well too.

0:27:290:27:32

She's meeting fellow nurse Sonia at the child health

0:27:320:27:34

clinic in Wyndham to find out about her potential role.

0:27:340:27:39

You do one day of home visiting, you'd usually do clinics on a couple

0:27:390:27:45

of days and you might do a couple of groups so most of it's clinic-based.

0:27:450:27:52

No major surprises

0:27:520:27:54

but would Lisa actually be able to get a job in Brisbane?

0:27:540:27:57

How are the job opportunities for this type of field at the moment?

0:27:570:28:01

Um, there's not the abundance of them like hospital positions

0:28:010:28:04

because they are what we call clinical nurses.

0:28:040:28:08

I don't know if you've got different terminology

0:28:080:28:10

so a registered nurse is a grade 5, a clinical nurse is a grade 6 so

0:28:100:28:15

they're clinical nurse positions and they don't come up that regularly.

0:28:150:28:21

That's bad news for Lisa.

0:28:210:28:23

But with Bribie Island experiencing a building boom,

0:28:230:28:26

will things be any easier for Math?

0:28:260:28:28

Well, there is plenty of work around.

0:28:280:28:30

In time, you'll be so sick of work, you'll probably want to go home.

0:28:300:28:33

What are your normal hours for you yourself? Is it 6:30 till 6:30?

0:28:330:28:37

-Every day.

-Yeah?

0:28:370:28:39

You're not allowed to work on a Sunday any more

0:28:390:28:41

so that's been ruled out.

0:28:410:28:42

You're allowed to work on the Saturdays but that's it.

0:28:420:28:45

The hours sound good but what about the all-important money?

0:28:450:28:49

Well, most of the guys, on average,

0:28:490:28:52

earn anywhere from 1,200 a week to 2,500 a week.

0:28:520:28:56

They can even go up to 4,000 a week.

0:28:560:28:59

The amount of money they make is phenomenal.

0:29:000:29:03

Well, that's significantly a lot more than back home. I mean, eh...

0:29:030:29:09

-It's a phenomenal amount.

-It is, yeah.

0:29:110:29:14

The prospect of earning almost five times what he does in the UK

0:29:140:29:17

has left Math almost speechless for a second time

0:29:170:29:21

but if Lisa could secure work, would her salary be just as impressive?

0:29:210:29:26

What would the salary be for this type of work here?

0:29:260:29:28

Em, as a clinical nurse,

0:29:280:29:29

usually around 76,000's your starting point up to about 82.

0:29:290:29:34

Wow, that's really good, OK.

0:29:340:29:37

Compared to the UK, it's a lot more than the UK.

0:29:370:29:40

If Lisa could land a full-time job here, her starting

0:29:400:29:44

salary would be around £35,000, almost £15,000 more than in the UK.

0:29:440:29:50

So, after weighing up both their work prospects, would Matthew

0:29:500:29:53

and Lisa vote for employment in Australia or the UK?

0:29:530:29:57

After finding about all the work opportunities that we can get

0:29:570:30:01

here in Australia, I think it's time to vote, Lisa.

0:30:010:30:04

BOTH: Australia.

0:30:080:30:10

It feels really good that Math's voted Australia.

0:30:100:30:12

Obviously, this is the main area that was going to get him on board, really.

0:30:120:30:18

It was all down to the work and the salaries

0:30:180:30:20

-and I think he's been pleasantly surprised.

-I have.

0:30:200:30:24

I've not sold him any lies, everything that I told him

0:30:240:30:27

was true and we can be better off, hopefully, in Australia.

0:30:270:30:30

Yeah, I was sort of dragged to come here cos I wasn't too sure to start

0:30:300:30:34

with but I mean everything that I've seen here

0:30:340:30:37

so far is just on a better scale in every way.

0:30:370:30:41

Lisa's hopes of a new life are looking more likely

0:30:470:30:50

but despite the prospect of more money in their pockets, she still

0:30:500:30:53

faces the hurdle of persuading Math to leave his Welsh roots behind.

0:30:530:30:57

To give the family an idea of the sort of community spirit

0:30:570:31:01

Australia can offer,

0:31:010:31:02

Math and Lisa take Ellie to an ANZAC Day parade on Bribie Island.

0:31:020:31:06

This is a special day and it's not everyone sitting at home enjoying

0:31:060:31:11

it, everyone's come out and not by the hundreds but by thousands.

0:31:110:31:15

This national celebration of remembrance gives Math

0:31:150:31:18

and Lisa a chance to meet some locals.

0:31:180:31:20

The thing that we were worried about that would send us

0:31:220:31:25

back home is just being lonely, you know, like missing family

0:31:250:31:27

-and friends back home and stuff. Is it like social?

-Oh, very much so.

0:31:270:31:31

I think you'll find it a home from home with the fact that

0:31:310:31:34

people are incredibly friendly so if you're

0:31:340:31:36

walking along the waterfront, this is an example,

0:31:360:31:38

people will say hello to you and you've never met them

0:31:380:31:41

before but it's just the natural thing to do.

0:31:410:31:43

This morning, I was just talking to my neighbour and that was

0:31:430:31:46

quite nice, just a little normal chat and it was lovely.

0:31:460:31:49

And he came up to me

0:31:490:31:51

and I think that's what we're looking for, like to get

0:31:510:31:54

invited into a conversation and then hopefully make some friends.

0:31:540:31:58

Fitting in shouldn't be a problem

0:31:580:32:00

but has today been enough to put their concerns to rest?

0:32:000:32:03

The community spirit here is just really good, you can feel it,

0:32:030:32:06

-it's good.

-They're so laid back and they're easy to talk to.

0:32:060:32:12

I think making friends here will be a lot easier than we thought,

0:32:120:32:15

-especially...

-Well, we're quite sociable anyway,

0:32:150:32:18

I don't think that we just sit in our house and not make an effort

0:32:180:32:20

but it is nice that everyone's so approachable and friendly.

0:32:200:32:24

Math has come a long way towards accepting Lisa's vision of a new

0:32:280:32:31

family life down under but they will be able to afford to make the move?

0:32:310:32:36

The couple plan to let out their UK home if they emigrate

0:32:370:32:41

but getting enough rent will be essential.

0:32:410:32:43

We sent two estate agents round to give a rental valuation.

0:32:430:32:47

Wow, this has got a real wow factor to it. Very contemporary.

0:32:500:32:55

Nice the way the tiles flow through from the hall.

0:32:550:32:58

Lovely kitchen, obviously spent quite a bit here.

0:32:580:33:00

Oh, nice big main bedroom.

0:33:000:33:02

Good double wardrobes there with mirrored doors to make

0:33:020:33:04

the room feel even bigger.

0:33:040:33:05

A very useful storage space with access to the loft too. Excellent.

0:33:050:33:09

And this is the combi boiler which runs the central heating.

0:33:090:33:13

Obviously very modern...

0:33:130:33:15

-Box it in.

-..but it could do with boxing it in, I think.

0:33:150:33:17

-Yeah, I haven't had time.

-It's on the list, it's on the list.

0:33:170:33:22

Lovely bathroom, always makes a difference

0:33:240:33:26

when it's tile all the way up.

0:33:260:33:27

Nice, white suite that won't date, tiled floor too. Very nice.

0:33:270:33:32

In the current market, I would value it for rental 450-500.

0:33:320:33:36

If they consider renting it,

0:33:360:33:38

the figure would be 575 per calendar month on a six-month tenancy.

0:33:380:33:43

Yeah, fair enough.

0:33:430:33:45

I'm definitely happy with the rental because it means that if

0:33:450:33:48

we were to come here, then at least the mortgage would be paid for.

0:33:480:33:50

It's an encouraging start for Math but the couple still need to

0:33:500:33:54

work out if they could afford to live in Australia.

0:33:540:33:57

To help with the figures,

0:33:570:33:58

we've prepared a cost-of-living comparison.

0:33:580:34:00

-We could be just shot down right here, right now.

-Yeah.

0:34:000:34:04

First up, the weekly shopping.

0:34:060:34:08

See, cheese, and Ellie loves cheese, £1.73 worse off in Australia.

0:34:080:34:14

-She'll have to stop eating cheese.

-What?!

0:34:140:34:17

I love cheese and I'm willing to sacrifice cheese.

0:34:170:34:20

Bacon.

0:34:200:34:22

I thought this one was going to be... Oh, bacon's cheaper.

0:34:220:34:26

Yeah, but sausages are more expensive. No sausages for you.

0:34:260:34:30

It's not that much more expensive, it's not back-breaking, you know?

0:34:300:34:34

Overall, the couple's shopping bill will increase by £14 a week.

0:34:340:34:38

It's a good start but food shopping's only a small

0:34:380:34:41

part of the family's spend.

0:34:410:34:43

The couple base their bigger calculations on renting

0:34:430:34:45

the last house they saw.

0:34:450:34:46

-This is a big difference.

-Electricity, yeah.

0:34:460:34:49

So, here, we'll have to pay £188...

0:34:490:34:54

Minus 45.

0:34:540:34:56

-..minus 45, we're paying 143.

-So, we're worse off by £143.

0:34:560:35:04

-That's a big jump.

-Yeah.

-That's ridiculous.

0:35:040:35:07

What do all these extras mean for the final outgoings?

0:35:070:35:11

So we're minus £984.84.

0:35:110:35:18

84p.

0:35:180:35:20

So, we're that less off from moving to Australia with all the outgoings.

0:35:200:35:26

-It doesn't look good so far to be honest.

-No, no.

0:35:260:35:30

The couple's expenditure is going to be substantially

0:35:310:35:34

higher in Australia.

0:35:340:35:36

If they both secure jobs though,

0:35:360:35:38

could their increased earnings make up the difference?

0:35:380:35:41

-This is after we pay everything, yeah?

-Yeah.

0:35:410:35:44

-We pay the rent and pay the food?

-The rent on a nice, posh house.

0:35:440:35:49

So, before we had like £97 to spend.

0:35:490:35:54

-Yeah, £98.

-And now?

0:35:540:35:56

We are better off by £3,360.16.

0:35:560:36:04

That's for us to buy a boat with.

0:36:060:36:10

Hold on, we're not buying a boat first. Savings!

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That's a lot.

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Wow, that's a phenomenal increase each month which must mean

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a positive outcome

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when the couple choose between finances in the UK or Australia.

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BOTH: Australia.

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Done it?

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SHE MUTTERS

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Really stupid. It's just, yeah.

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-And we're happy.

-Good.

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But there are some things money just can't buy -

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the love of family and friends.

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While Ellie takes a nap, the couple sit down to face what, for Math,

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will be his biggest challenge yet - messages from loved ones back home.

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Right then, this is probably going to be a bit hard,

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seeing the family, but let's see what they have to say, yeah?

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Hi, Math. Hi, Lis. Hi, Ellie.

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Hello, Matthew, Lisa, and my lovely granddaughter, Ellie.

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Hello! Hope you're having a lovely, lovely time.

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Lisa, as a sister, is someone that's really close to me.

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We get on really well, we have done for years

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-and we're more like friends.

-She's just lovely.

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She's bubbly, she's bright,

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she just lights up a room and that's how she is.

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-Everyone loves Math.

-You can't...

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He's genuinely the nicest guy you can ever think of.

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Ellie, she's seriously the best thing that's ever happened.

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Oh, she's just gorgeous.

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She's my granddaughter and I just love her to bits.

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It'll be very sad to see them going.

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Dad misses you.

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I will miss them so much. I don't even think about it.

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A phone call doesn't make up for a hug and sometimes, you just want

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to come and see them, don't you, and that's what I won't be able to do.

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I don't want the day to come when we have to say goodbye to you

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and it's going to be a sad, sad day

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but if that's what you want to do, brilliant, I'm 100% behind you.

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At the end of the day, you're your own family now

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but it's going to leave a huge hole here, a huge hole.

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You're a fantastic auntie to Lucy and you're my best friend and...

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I can't do this.

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-Liz!

-Liz.

-Remember, you'll always be in my heart.

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It doesn't matter what you do or wherever you are or wherever

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I am, every day I'll be looking at Ellie's photo.

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I'll be praying for you every day.

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And we just want you to follow your dreams and you once told me

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that you make your own happy endings.

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Let's hope you make yours.

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Yeah, that was quite hard.

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I know how my mum is and my mum's always emotional...

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-Well, my mum's the same.

-I've never seen my dad like that.

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No, that's what started me.

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It's hard seeing them suffer.

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For me, to sacrifice, you know, my relationship with my family

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so Ellie gets a better life and so on and so on then,

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I don't know, it's a small price to pay.

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After a week of unbelievable highs, watching messages from family

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and friends has brought the couple crashing back down to Earth.

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As their final decision approaches,

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will the reality of everything they stand to lose put

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an end to the couple's plans for a future down under?

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When Lisa arrived here a week ago, it was the first time she'd ever

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been to Australia and the country's more than met her expectations.

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I can definitely see us coming out here and making our life together.

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She's enjoyed it probably more than she would have thought.

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To find out all the information that we've had, I think

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it's gone even better for her.

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But has the week been enough to persuade Math it's the right move?

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To reveal that we could live here comfortably

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and being able to save and put money away, I don't know...

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It's a lovely feeling.

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I think in life,

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when is the time that you're allowed to be a little bit selfish?

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I think surely, it's when you want to get the best for your own family

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and your daughter.

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I've always wanted a family and I'm so lucky to have them.

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A lovely partner, a lovely daughter.

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Them two, that's all I've ever wanted and I have to make

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sure that I keep them happy for ever cos I don't ever want to lose them.

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So, will the final turn of the cards see Lisa's wishes come

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true as the couple make the ultimate decision?

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A life in the UK or Australia?

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OK, this is the big vote now.

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After an amazing week in Australia, we've done some amazing things,

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seen some amazing things and had the weather on our side all week.

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-It's time to vote.

-Let's vote.

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BOTH: Australia.

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Yeah, everything's just a lot better here.

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I'm so surprised with the wages so that's what I wanted really,

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the wages, to back up everything.

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It's been better than we both could've...

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Well, better than I was imagining, I knew it was going to be good

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but it's been even better and I think Math's been really surprised.

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It means everything.

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For me to actually say that, we can actually do the move now

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because all the financial questions have been answered to me

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which backs that we can come here, live comfortably

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and to know that the two most important people

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in my life will be happy here and I'll be a part of that.

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As well, maybe we could actually get married here cos

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I just want to get married.

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That's the next thing as well that we need to do.

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We can't afford to get married in the UK, it's too expensive.

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We've just got engaged.

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And it's a good excuse to get our families perhaps to come here

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then cos they'll really want to come for our wedding.

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Yeah, we'll help to pay, don't worry.

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For Math, Lisa and Ellie,

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it looks like Australia really could be the promised land and with

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a wedding also on the cards,

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the family's future down under looks set to be a huge success.

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