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If starting a new life halfway around the world could

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give your family the time together they so desperately needed,

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might you be sorely tempted?

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But could you go ahead and make the move

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if it meant having to leave one member of your family behind?

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Pulling pints and being a travelling teacher means

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James and Lisa Cornish hardly ever see their two little boys.

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I would absolutely love for us to feel like a family again

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and for me to feel like I'm a mum and a wife again.

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So they're considering moving lock, stock and barrel

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to the other side of the world.

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I'll get more time to spend with the boys in the evenings.

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I'll be less tired because I won't be working 100 hours a week.

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While Australia could give them the lifestyle they want...

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I can honestly say I've never really seen them

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-that happy as they have been this week.

-..it would mean James

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saying goodbye to his daughter for months at a time.

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This week, really, is going to be really important, because

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it's going to change our lives, really, whichever way we choose.

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With more than a quarter of its population born abroad, Australia's

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long been a dream destination for people in search of a better life.

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James and Lisa Cornish are desperate for more time together with sons

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Sammy and Louie and believe Australia could be the answer.

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Moving, however, would come at a price.

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James' daughter would be left behind in the UK.

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The Cornishes' journey begins with a 10,000-mile flight from London

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to Melbourne, via Dubai.

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It's the family's first time in Australia

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and the reality of just how far they've come has hit home.

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I'm really looking forward to seeing what houses are like,

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-what the areas are like to live in.

-Yeah.

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We can actually now see everything in the flesh,

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so we're looking forward to it.

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When their time in Melbourne's up,

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the family will face a life-changing decision.

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In the UK, the Cornish family live above a pub near Sheffield.

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They're James, Lisa, five-year-old Sammy, two-year-old Louie

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and James' daughter Lauren, who's 13.

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The family started running the pub in 2013,

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after James took voluntary redundancy as an accountant.

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While everyone hoped it would mean more time together,

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the reality's been the exact opposite.

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James works seven days a week and Lisa's job as an accountancy

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lecturer at colleges across the country

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means she's also missing out on quality time with the children.

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The commuting, in general, is a real strain on family life.

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And there's no let-up when it comes to the weekend.

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As Lisa's drafted in to help James behind the bar,

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Sammy and Louie have to stay with their grandparents.

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It's a horrible feeling to feel like somebody else is enjoying

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spending time with your kids all the time.

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It's a situation that can't go on any longer.

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It does upset me that I can't spend the time with the boys.

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And my relationship with them is suffering because of it.

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With the pub meaning the family have even less quality time,

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the couple are now considering a more drastic lifestyle change.

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One which could take them to the other side of the world.

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But while Australia could reunite James and Lisa with their boys,

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it would mean James leaving a daughter behind.

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Lauren's my daughter from my first marriage

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and she spends half the time with us and half the time with her mum.

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If we do decide to move out to Australia,

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she will stay here until she's 18.

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I think my dad feels like he's abandoning me

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if he does move over there,

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but I want them to have a better life than over here.

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James and Lisa will face an agonising decision.

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Lauren could spend holidays down under,

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but if she doesn't like Australia, Lisa and James' dream could be over.

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I don't think that I could, um...

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..spend my life without her.

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The family will be spending a week in Melbourne.

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Their temporary new home is a three-bedroom house in Williamstown.

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-Ooo!

-It's lovely. Open stairs.

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Yeah. It's really modern, actually. I like that.

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-I like how it's open-plan.

-Yeah.

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First impressions are good, but then...

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I'm not so sure there would be enough space...

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-No. We're used to more space than this.

-..long-term.

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And the space inside isn't the only problem.

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Not much of a view, though.

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There's no real wildlife

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or anything to look at.

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They may have just arrived, but already, James and Lauren's thoughts

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are turning towards possibly being separated.

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It's something that we've,kind of, put on the back burner, to say,

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"How do we all really feel about...

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"spending four, five months apart at a time?"

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This week in Australia's going to be really important,because

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it's going to change our lives, really, whichever way we choose.

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It's a case of Upstairs Downstairs back in the UK for the Cornishes,

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who live above the pub James manages.

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We've ended up with this big, long wish list of walk-in wardrobes,

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ensuites, theatre rooms.

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SHE LAUGHS

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-Pool. On the list.

-We do need an extra bedroom,

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-because we've got a long list of people that want to come.

-Yeah.

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James and Lisa have a budget

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of £250-£300,000 for a home in Australia,

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but could possibly stretch further, depending on sand market.

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Today, we'll show them three houses.

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Two based on their budget and a third based on everything they want.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out its value.

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The search begins is Werribee, a suburb 20-miles west of the city.

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It's a family-friendly area, which could be perfect for the Cornishes.

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The outside might not impress much...

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It hasn't got a huge amount of curb appeal for my tastes.

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I like things that are much more modern.

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..but appearances can be deceptive.

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Wow!

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This isn't what I was expecting.

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Wow!

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-Are we sure we're in the same house?

-THEY LAUGH

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-I want to see the rest of it now.

-Yeah, I do, too.

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The property's got the open-plan interiors Lisa's after,

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but will it have the space the family crave?

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I'm trying to imagine it without any of the furniture in

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and what we would do with it.

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I think once we get the kids' toys in here and everything,

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I think we'd struggle for space and we'd feel cramped again.

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And the kitchen's not perfect, either.

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-Certain parts of it...

-Yeah.

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..feel modern and updated and other parts don't.

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To be honest, it'd need whipping out and starting again.

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That's always possible, though,

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and the house does have five bedrooms,

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meaning not only could Sammy and Louie have their own room,

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but Lauren, too, if she visits.

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-I could see the boys in here.

-It's a good size for them. Ooo!

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Oh, that's a nice little den.

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Just put some cushions in and reading books on the walls

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and everything and they'd love that.

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That's the boys potentially sorted,

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-and another feature manages to catch Lisa's eye.

-Wow!

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This is a walk-in wardrobe and a half.

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Everything at home's so cramped.

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This wardrobe is the size of their bedroom.

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So, does this house have all the space needed?

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Oh, gosh! Wow!

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Not in every sense. LISA LAUGHS

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I don't know who's going to fit in that bath.

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-Louie.

-Louie.

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THEY LAUGH

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I can't imagine what you would do with a bath this small.

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No worries about you falling asleep and drowning.

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Well, that's something, I guess. And so, it turns out, is the garden.

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-This is far more what we were looking for.

-Outdoors-wise.

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-Outdoors-wise.

-Yeah.

-For the boys.

-It's nice.

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-You like this one, don't you?

-Yeah.

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And from the windows upstairs,

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you'll have a view of the garden and the trees and things.

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This house could be somewhere Lauren could call a second home,

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but could the family afford it on their £250-£300,000 budget?

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-Oof!

-Oof!

-Oh, dear!

-Wow!

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262. That's a lot more than I was expecting

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-and a lot more than...

-Anybody was expecting.

-Anybody was expecting.

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It's within budget, but it looks like James and Lisa

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want a house that delivers much more for their money.

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Will property number two fit the bill?

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It's situated in Tarneit,

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just 15 miles from Melbourne's central business district.

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-That's way bigger! Huh!

-This looks nice.

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-It's lovely.

-Straight away, this property's looking more promising.

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Oh, gosh, James, it goes back quite a way, as well.

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There's a lot of colour.

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-Yeah.

-There's loads of space.

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It's got three living rooms.

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It's much bigger than the last house,

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but is there now too much room to roam?

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It's finding the balance between what space we need

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and would like to have and then having this massive house

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that A - doesn't get used very often

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and B - needs a massive amount of cleaning.

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-Mm.

-Can we afford a cleaner?

-THEY LAUGH

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-There's one space James seems more than happy with.

-Oh, wow!

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-This is my room.

-Yeah, you can live here.

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THEY LAUGH

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Yes, I can see sort of, like, a little bar area in the corner.

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But the garden one.

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It's possibly the one area that I don't like about the house.

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Yeah, there's loads of space, it's just not two-year-old friendly.

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The house inside, overall, is fantastic.

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I'm a little bit disappointed with the outside.

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Downstairs has provoked mixed reactions,

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but upstairs has its own appeal.

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EXCITED CHATTER

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-You've got your walk-in wardrobe.

-I know, I know!

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THEY LAUGH

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It was definitely on my wish list.

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The master bedroom also has a balcony with views to the front.

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It's not like it's got an amazing view,

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-but it's green and it's pleasant.

-It's a lovely en-suite.

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-It's a really nice size, isn't it?

-His and hers sinks.

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-His and hers sinks. I miss having an en-suite.

-Yeah.

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Having one bathroom and one toilet to share between five of us is...

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-Yeah.

-..hell.

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And it's only going to get worse, the older they get.

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That's a fair point.

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This house would also give Lauren her own bedroom.

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And that could seal the deal when it comes to persuading her to visit.

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But with a budget of £250-£300,000, is it affordable?

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Let's have a look.

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-Whoo!

-HE CHUCKLES

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Spot-on. 295.

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You get a lot for your money.

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I think if we had the dream, it would be a new build with...

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this space and a bigger garden.

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I'm really excited to see the dream house now.

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Next up, the dream home.

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We've found a property which could offer everything the Cornishes want.

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But luxury living can come at a cost.

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This four-bedroom bungalow is in Sanctuary Lakes.

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One of 20 modern estates which make up the semirural,

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but family-friendly suburb of Point Cook.

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And first impressions are good.

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It's beautiful, isn't it?

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-Hm.

-Oh, wow!

-THEY LAUGH

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-This place is stunning!

-Oh, James!

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I'm so excited about this place!

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THEY LAUGH

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Wow!

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-Oh, my God!

-Crikey!

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-And this is just the en-suite.

-Yeah.

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Further down the corridor, something everyone can enjoy.

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-LISA LAUGHS

-Oh, wow!

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Oh, it's a proper cinema room!

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Just imagine when that's got projected, what that's like.

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Looks like everyone could settle in nicely here.

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I'd definitely come out and visit.

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Well, I'd come out and visit, anyway, wherever you were living,

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but more frequently if you were living here.

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Lauren may be sold,

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but James is already thinking about how he could afford it.

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I think I'd get two jobs to get this house.

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The kitchen is fantastic.

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It's absolutely stunning.

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Everything that we've looked at is to such a high specification.

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-It is a dream house.

-It's perfect.

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And outside, something else to keep them happy.

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A pool wasn't top of the list or anything, that's just a kind of...

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It's the icing on the cake.

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At last, a chance for the boys to dip their toes

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-into what life in Australia could be like.

-Too cold!

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-How would you like to live here and have this in your garden?

-Yeah!

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All the time?

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You can just imagine yourself living here.

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-I think we need to find out how much it is.

-I think we do, too.

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See if we can afford it.

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The house has won everyone over, but there's just one problem.

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It may be out of financial reach.

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-404.

-Oh, that's unbelievable.

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That's £100,000 over budget. But...

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-Oh, I could so have that.

-That almost makes me cry.

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I'm completely and utterly speechless that we could get

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this house in this location for that amount of money.

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And it could be within reach, if the couple can get the right salaries.

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I'm even more speechless now than I was when I walked through the door.

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It's just...completely within reach.

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It's been a day of real ups and downs for the Cornishes.

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Property one was bang on budget, but short on space.

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Property two had plenty of room,

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but it just wasn't the house James and Lisa had based their dreams on.

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And property three had everything the family wanted

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and was somewhere Lauren could call a second home.

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So, based on the houses that we've seen in Australia,

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we're voting for...

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-Australia.

-BOYS: Australia!

-Undecided.

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It's no surprise that we've voted for the same,

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-given how pleased we were with the last house.

-None at all.

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We could never afford that at home.

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Seeing their dream house got Lisa

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and James excited about a potential future in Australia.

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Even if they still have to persuade Lauren it could be her second home.

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But to afford that property,

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the couple would have to pull in a good income.

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At home, Lisa spent 11 years as an accountant before becoming

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an accountancy lecturer.

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It's a job she enjoys and is hoping to continue down under.

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If they do move, James plans to call time on being a landlord

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and return to accounting.

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Melbourne's a leading financial centre in Australia,

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which should be good news for James and Lisa.

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I'm feeling quite excited about finding out what

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Australia can offer for me work-wise.

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And see whether our expectations that we've got

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meet up to the reality.

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And Lisa knows just how much is at stake.

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Unless we can find a job at the right salary level,

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there's no way on earth we could be able to financially make the move.

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We've arranged for visa-applicant Lisa to visit Box Hill Institute,

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a college east of Melbourne.

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She meets the head of the business department

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and a senior lecturer and it's straight down to business.

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To get a teaching job here, the minimum qualification

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is a certificate four in training and assessment.

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That will take you about a month.

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You have got certainly more than the minimum

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to get employed as a teacher.

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However, in the current environment,

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I would highly recommend more qualifications,

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higher-level qualifications in breadth and depth,

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and that will maximise your chance of employment

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and also maximise your salary.

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OK. So, what sort of demand would there be in Australia

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for someone with my experience?

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When we advertise for any lecturer role, you get

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maybe 80% of applications that come through are people from overseas.

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It sound like Lisa might be back at school herself

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if she's to stand out from candidates chasing lecturing jobs.

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And that would mean more pressure on James to find the perfect job.

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To get to the bottom of accounting opportunities, he's meeting

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Susan Drew from one of the city's prominent recruitment companies.

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So, James, having a look at your resume,

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you're a certified practising accountant.

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Looking at your experience, your skills in government,

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I believe would be very transferrable into

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the state government here, or a public sector environment.

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We've got a number of specialist consultants who work

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specifically with the government and we recruit these roles

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on a daily basis within the business.

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James could be in demand.

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Back at Box Hill, Lisa's keen to hear

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her potential salary, if she found a job.

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Some of the jobs I've been looking at were in the region

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of £80-£100,000.

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That sort of money as a lecturer, not as a manager,

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is maybe at the top end of the university scale.

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I estimate that you'd come in about the middle of the lecturer range,

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which would be a salary of about 60-70,000 dollars a year.

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That's a massive £50,000 less than Lisa was hoping for.

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And that could mean the end of her and James' dream.

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We'd want the standard of living that would offer the boys

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and ourselves a much better lifestyle.

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If we can't get the salary to enable us to do that,

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then I'm not so sure that we'd move to Australia.

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So, what sort of salary do you think I'd be able to command in Australia?

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Look, I think, realistically,

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you'd be looking at anything at about that sort of 80-100k mark.

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Now, I appreciate that's quite a wide range.

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It's very much depending on the nature of the role.

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We were looking at 90-100,000 dollars,

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-which converts to around about £50-£60,000.

-Yeah.

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-Which, to be honest with you, is more than I was on in the UK.

-Yep.

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But from what we've seen, we would need that extra

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to be able to afford the lifestyle that we're hoping to achieve.

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-Yeah.

-So that's perfect.

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-Yeah.

-The day's definitely been more positive for James.

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From speaking to Susan, I could see myself working in Melbourne.

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Although it's a big city, it seems very relaxed

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and very laidback and it's just what we're looking for.

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Lisa and James have had completely different experiences today,

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so, how will that affect their vote?

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Will they choose work in Australia or the UK?

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Based on our work experience today, we are voting for...

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-Australia.

-Australia.

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A return to practising accounting for Lisa

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means the couple's dream isn't over yet,

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but James still needs to establish

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if the benefits Australia can offer his family

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will outweigh the time he'll spend apart from daughter, Lauren.

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And convince her to split her time between the two countries.

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A day sampling Australia's lifestyle could make all the difference.

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The Cornishes are spending the day at Latrobe Golf Park in Bundoora.

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Before coming consumed with running the pub, James was a keen golfer.

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And he's hoping that if he and Lisa could get more time

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with Sammy and Louie, it's a sport they could practise together.

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The afternoon also gives James and Lauren

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some important father-daughter time

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and the chance to discuss what moving would mean for

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-their relationship.

-So, how would you feel, then, if we came out here?

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Well, I'd be upset, but...I'd be happy for you, as well.

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You'd be happy to see us for two or three months a year,

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rather than every week?

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Ooo! I'd get used to it.

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Just like I got used to not seeing you and Mum together.

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I want you to move out here. I've told you that.

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-And you're not abandoning me.

-I know. But I don't want you to feel

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like you've got to say that, because that's what...

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-I don't feel like I've got to say that.

-..you think I want to hear.

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-Are you sure?

-I'm saying that because that's how I feel.

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It's been a fun and thought-provoking day

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for the family.

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So when it comes to choosing between lifestyle in Australia or the UK,

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what will they opt for?

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ALL: Australia!

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An unanimous vote for Australia's all well and good,

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but with Lisa's projected salary much lower than expected,

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the family now need to find out

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whether they can actually afford to make the move.

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We've provided a breakdown of their living expenses,

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starting with their fortnightly grocery shop.

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Quite a lot of the vegetables and things double.

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Beef's a lot cheaper.

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Chicken's a lot cheaper.

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The yoghurts are loads more expensive.

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Crikey!

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Looks like Sammy and Louie may have to forgo their fromage frais.

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Most things are more expensive, though, aren't they? Let's face it.

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As we go down the list, most of the things on there...

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Shopping's £67.18...

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More in the UK. 73% more expensive.

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There's no hiding these two are accountants.

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£135 a month more on food isn't a deal-breaker,

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but how will the bigger figure stack up?

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James and Lisa based their calculations

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on the second property they viewed.

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Gas is half the price.

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The childcare would be more expensive,

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because we wouldn't have grandparents looking after the kids.

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£470.15.

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Added to the extra grocery bill,

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Lisa and James would spend £600 more per month in Australia.

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The dream could live or die on their potential salaries.

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My salary would be £543 more.

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Your salary would be £2 less.

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Huh! £2 less.

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-And this is based on...?

-Teaching. So, overall...

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-Yeah?

-..we would £70.85 better off a month in Australia.

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If Lisa lectured down under,

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the family would be around £70 better off each month.

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Not bad, but not enough to pay for regular flights for Lauren.

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If I went back into accounting,

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we'd be £10,606.20 a year better off.

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And even if we had the dream house,

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if I was in accounting and you were, too,

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then we'd still be £5,326 better off a year.

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-It's a huge difference.

-I can't believe that.

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-It's a huge difference.

-It's a massive difference.

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A return to accounting for Lisa changes everything.

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LISA LAUGHS

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I can't put into words how that makes me feel.

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Lisa and James could afford the life they're desperate for

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with their sons and flights for Lauren.

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So, how will they vote?

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BOTH: Australia!

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The financial cost of Lisa and James' dream seems achievable,

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but what about the emotional cost?

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While Sammy and Louie are looked after by a childminder,

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the rest of the family sit down

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to watch messages from their loved ones in the UK.

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-Hiya.

-Hi, Lisa, James.

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We don't want you to come back with a tan,

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because we don't want to look pasty next to you.

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As a family, Lisa and James are a really hard-working,

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dedicated family to their kids.

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Lisa doesn't just do something, she overdoes it,

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if you know what I mean? She really looks into things.

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If they do move to Australia, I think it's going to absolutely

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crush them all, in the sense of leaving Lauren behind.

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I can honestly say that,

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since I knew...

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..I've been the saddest that I've ever been in my life.

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I'd miss the physical contact

0:24:490:24:52

and, although we'll be able to see them on Skype

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and talk to her and everything like that, um...

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..I would look forward to the cuddles when I do see them.

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It's a fantastic opportunity and if you think you can make it work,

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-then do it.

-Yeah, definitely.

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Because it might be one of the best decisions you've ever made.

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We've told you we'll miss you,

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but we've also said that we wouldn't stand in your way, if you went,

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if you made the decision to go.

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Just make sure, James and Lisa,

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that you look at everything

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before you make any decisions whatsoever.

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And come back safe.

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They do seem to...

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-Be accepting.

-..be accepting and have our best interests at heart.

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I can see now how much it is going to affect me

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and everyone else, but I could see that before.

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It's just... how well we'll cope with it.

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Lauren may have given her blessing

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for the family's move to Australia,

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but it's now time for James to decide if the lifestyle

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he and Lisa are yearning for with their sons

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is worth the time he'll lose with his daughter.

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Has Australia lived up to the dream?

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The thing for me, with the decision, is Lauren.

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Um...she's my daughter,

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she's my first-born and she means everything to me.

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And...it would be a huge change in the dynamic of our family

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to not have her around every week.

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Obviously, I'd be sad if they did choose Australia,

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but I'd know what it would be doing for their lives.

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I think James has probably been more positive

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than what I've been across the week.

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I think his main concern always has been,

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and always will be, how it affects Lauren.

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It's now time for the whole family to decide where their future lies.

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So, after spending the week in Australia,

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we've had some ups and some downs,

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but our final vote is for...

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ALL: Australia!

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-Did everyone vote Australia?

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

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-JAMES CHUCKLES

-Cool!

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Wow! Well done!

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It's been a fantastic week and I think it's, er...

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The writing's on the wall for us to come out here.

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It'd be silly for us to not try.

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I voted Australia for you and for coming out here twice a year.

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Maybe when I turn 18, I could come out and have a year out.

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-Did you vote UK, or did you vote Australia?

-Australia.

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Australia? Shout it out!

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Australia!

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With Lauren happy to spend months at a time in Australia,

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James has decided a move down under will give the rest of his family

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the time together they've been missing in the UK.

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We wish everyone well.

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And, who knows? On turning 18, Lauren might join them full-time.

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