Pelan/Gibney Family Wanted Down Under


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Finding love across a cultural divide is a story older

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than Romeo and Juliet.

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But what if you and your partner's different backgrounds meant

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you struggled to feel at home where you lived?

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How far would you go to be yourself,

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and find the adventure-packed lifestyle you dreamt of?

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Marty Pelan and Magz Gibney are desperate to escape old prejudices.

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There's times where I feel like I can't totally just be open

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and honest about my relationship.

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Marty thinks Australia is the answer.

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But when a week down under shows them both how good it could be...

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I could definitely live with this. It's so nice.

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I would move in tomorrow.

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My only concern is that the weather is actually too good.

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..will the distance from family prevent Magz from fully

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buying into the dream?

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That means moving away and leaving people behind.

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Occupying almost eight million square kilometres,

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Australia is the sixth largest country in the world.

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And with a population of just 23 million, it's still

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one of the fastest-growing places on the planet.

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It's no surprise over a quarter of all UK residents currently

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living abroad have made Australia their home.

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Marty and Magz have found love across

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religious divides in Northern Ireland.

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But Marty believes their future happiness will be improved

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by ditching cultural rifts for a life of adventure in Australia.

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Now he has just one week to convince Magz that's worth being

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half a world away from friends and family who mean so much to her.

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The journey down under begins with three flights,

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from Belfast to Melbourne via London and Dubai.

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And, two days after takeoff, the couple are still smiling

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when they finally touch down in Australia.

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Our flight was great.

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It was a lot easier than I thought it was going to be.

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Loads of nice food and sleep.

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The journey was - it's definitely an epic voyage there, isn't it?

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Coming from one side of the world to the other.

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But, already, the massive journey's got Magz thinking about family.

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There is a wee sort of concern in the back of my head about how long

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that flight is, you know, for someone with health problems.

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For Marty, the distance from home hasn't yet sunk in.

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I still think I'm in a wee bit of, just, shock,

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if I'm being honest, that I'm actually here.

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But it's amazing. I feel good.

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But he knows the country will have to sell itself

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if they're to be convinced they can call it home.

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We're not taking this lightly.

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Any idea of a move away from Belfast is a massive thing for us.

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As the couple head out into Melbourne,

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they know their future hangs on the coming week.

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Back in the UK, dedicated youth workers

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Marty Pelan and Magz Gibney live in Belfast in Northern Ireland.

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We've known each other for about ten years

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because we worked together.

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Two years ago, Marty asked me out.

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There was a natural connection between me and Magz.

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-No, there definitely was.

-We share so much in common

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about the way we see life and community life.

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Despite sharing the same values, the couple come from

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opposite sides of the tracks, and that can make life

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difficult in a city where prejudices sometimes make their presence felt.

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It can be an issue for me, in that there's times where

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I feel like I can't totally just be open

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and honest about my relationship and where I'm from,

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and where I'm now living.

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And it is, you know, it is stressful.

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The couple want to spend the rest of their lives together,

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but staying at home could mean following a path far from smooth.

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Where we buy our next house, where we bring our kids up,

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how we bring them up, what school they go to,

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all that sort of stuff comes into play whenever you start to

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think about, maybe just, I suppose, our two different backgrounds.

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Things have changed massively and, you know,

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we're not a war-torn city or anything, any more,

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but I just think I don't want my children growing up thinking that

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the fact that they're either Catholic or Protestant is what defines them.

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Because we're so much more than that.

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Magz would love to escape the labels that colour their community,

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but moving to a more diverse part of Belfast isn't an option.

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We can't afford to live in an area that is neutral, you know,

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and where we'd both be comfortable and happy

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and feel like we have no, sort of, real issues.

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He's never been, but for the past five years Marty's

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dreamt of living a life down under,

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and now he's convinced it could be the perfect move for him and Magz.

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Australia is going to, hopefully, offer us

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the opportunity to leave behind some of that old stereotypical

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lines that are drawn within Belfast,

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and create a life for ourselves that's free of that.

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Magz is open to the idea of living abroad,

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but Australia has never been on her agenda.

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I guess, in my head, I always imagined that that will be

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half an hour's flight away, an hour, two hours.

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I can maybe even do six hours, but the idea of the other

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side of the world is a bit scary for me, at the minute.

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The couple share a passion for sports

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and Marty hopes the outdoor activities Australia offers

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will help persuade Magz to go the full distance.

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Between training opportunities, opportunities for new sports

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and, again, thinking about our future together

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and the potential of maybe a family, and what we can then offer

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to our children, Australia could open up so many new avenues.

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But convincing Magz may be harder than he thinks.

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She previously tried a move to Liverpool

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and the experience left a scar.

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I grew up with my granny and granda.

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They looked after me when I was younger,

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and my granny passed away when I was in Liverpool,

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and that was really tough to, you know...

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I was able to get home, which was great, but even being away

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and maybe not spending the last couple of...

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..months with her was tough, like.

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While settling across the Irish Sea proved difficult,

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moving 24 hours away from family would mean a much bigger leap.

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Both my parents and my aunt have had health issues over the last

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couple of years, and the idea of being on the other side of the world,

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if something were to happen, is quite scary.

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And anybody that knows me knows that I'm so close to my sister,

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so leaving her would be massive.

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It's a potentially heartbreaking situation, but Marty is desperate to

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give their hopes for a new life,

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away from old prejudices, a proper chance.

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There is no failure in life, there is just learning,

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so that's my viewpoint.

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For Magz, though, agreeing to make Marty's dream come true

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will be far from simple.

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At the minute, I just feel torn.

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I want to live away from Belfast, and I kind of know that deep down,

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but I'm not sure if it's Australia.

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For their trial week down under,

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Marty and Magz are visiting Melbourne.

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Home to around 140 different cultures,

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it's one of the world's most diverse cities.

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The couple are staying in Black Rock, a coastal suburb,

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11 miles from the city centre. For Marty, there's something familiar

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about their home for the week.

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Even the front door reminds me of my granny's front door

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whenever I was a kid. This is definitely old school.

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Hopefully, you'll feel at home then, Marty.

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-Massive hallway.

-Wow.

-Jeepers-oh.

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-I actually really like it.

-And Marty?

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It's probably more your style than mine, Magz, but, yeah, there's

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-nice finishes to it, isn't it?

-Look at the floors.

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-The floors are lovely.

-Hmm, he's not sounding overwhelmed.

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This does remind me of stuff that I would have seen

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-in my granny's house. That's a long time ago!

-Ssh!

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It might not be as modern as Marty would like,

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but it's a big enough base for the two of them.

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When we were driving up the street, this

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looked like one of the smaller houses, and it's massive.

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As the couple begin to unpack and settle in,

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Marty is already feeling at home.

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I'm really excited now, and there is a really lovely feeling

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here in Melbourne, and we're only here two or three hours, already.

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Magz seems to have bought into the Aussie way of life...

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I can't believe the difference.

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It just feels so much more relaxed and chilled out.

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It is really lovely here.

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..but it doesn't take long for her mind to wander back home.

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I can already feel that tug of...

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um...

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It's amazing, you know,

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but that tug of, sort of, thinking about back home and leaving.

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Marty knows being on the other side of the world from their loved ones

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is a massive issue for Magz.

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I don't think that that concern is going to leave for Magz

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very easily. I think it's a big thing for her,

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leaving, potentially leaving, family and friends behind.

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The next few days will show

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if Australia can offer the future Marty and Magz want,

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and whether, for Magz, it's worth cutting those ties at home.

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I feel really excited to be here,

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but the thought of being here without

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people that I care about is, sort of, quite...

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feels quite, um, lonely as well.

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Home for Marty and Magz in the UK is a two up, two down

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in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

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It's a nice wee place. We have invested a lot of energy in it,

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and it's definitely a place where we enjoy being.

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It's just we are finding more and more

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that we don't have enough space.

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Yeah. It's lovely but it's tiny.

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The couple would rent out their home if they moved to Australia,

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but what kind of house would they be looking for?

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Our ideal property would be somewhere that gives us

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access to the things that we enjoy - the outdoors.

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It would be lovely to have outside space where you could, like,

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grow your own veg, and somewhere that's modern.

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We have high hopes, I think.

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And, again, considering where we are,

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and the small space that we have, anything's got to be better!

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Marty and Mags have around £1,200 to spend on rent

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every month in Australia.

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To find out what's available for that sort of money,

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we'll show them three properties.

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Two on budget and a third which could be their dream home.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out what it costs.

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For their first property of the day,

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the couple head to Dingley Village, 13 miles from central Melbourne.

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Close to the beach, and with plenty of outdoor activities on the

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doorstep, the area could be just right for the adventurous couple.

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But will the house have the space they're after?

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It's a nice feel to it.

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It looks like it's a nice finish, from out here.

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The interior impresses Magz.

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Oh, my...that's a nice space.

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That is lovely.

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-I love the fireplace.

-In red brick.

-All open-plan.

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Marty can see some appeal.

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Probably wouldn't have the carpets,

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and wouldn't have this type of furniture in it,

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but it definitely is really good. It's a nice space, isn't it?

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With four bedrooms, this property is definitely bigger than back home.

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Good size. Good wardrobes. Ensuite with a wee shower.

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But something has floored Marty.

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Carpets wouldn't be the thing, but it's just, I think, me.

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The home's spacious kitchen is a plus.

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Oh, look at this. This is lovely.

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It's a massive, big kitchen, loads of space to cook,

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and a really nice space to eat.

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But not every room is as well-proportioned.

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I'm a bit shocked at how small the bathroom is.

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There's a wee, small, tiny bath for leprechauns.

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Fortunately, the master bedroom isn't made for little people.

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It's a lovely big bedroom,

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and you're not stuck for storage or anything like that.

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But the decor is just not doing it for Marty.

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They definitely have a unique style of furniture over here, don't they?

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The retro horror chair.

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Hopefully the garden won't give them nightmares.

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Definitely liking the outside of this house.

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There's ample space for growing veg but Marty spots a potential problem.

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The planes flying overhead.

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I don't know if it would be annoying or if we could live with it.

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My instinct is it wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

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Aircraft aside, the garden and house are definitely bigger.

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It's just hilarious if we're talking about space and size in this house

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and the last house, coming from where we are and what we have.

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Like, this is the size of our street back home.

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This is about six or seven houses.

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Marty and Magz are staying grounded.

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If only the same could be said for the aeroplanes.

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It kind of ruins this, doesn't it? It ruins this space?

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Despite old-fashioned furniture and a nearby flight path,

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this property does have room to roam.

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Will it be in reach of the couple's £1,200 per month rental budget?

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I don't know.

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I'm saying 1,000 and hopefully that gives us a bit more room.

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This could be a big shock if this is about 1,300 or 1,400.

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Way over our budget. Then we're snookered.

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-1,130. No way.

-That's £70 a month under budget.

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You look really disappointed.

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I think, look at the size of this house. It's absolutely massive.

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-I know.

-If you were to try and rent this back home...

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-I know.

-Are you serious?

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It's very, very close to our upper limit,

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which concerns me. Is this realistic for us?

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If the price of your rent and your food is high then, you know,

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how much are you going to have left to actually have a life?

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This property had the space the couple had been dreaming of

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but the price tag proved a shock for Magz.

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Can the next house give them what they want at a better price?

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It's in the coastal town of Mordialloc.

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Situated around a half-hour drive from Melbourne centre,

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the area is popular with families

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seeking affordable housing by the coast.

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With running tracks and cycling paths,

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it could be a great fit for the sporty couple.

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This three-bedroom property promises the contemporary look Marty prefers.

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Oh, my goodness. This is a lot more modern.

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You just wouldn't picture this sort of space from the outside.

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-It looked tiny.

-It's crazy.

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With two main living areas, this house is anything but small

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and this time, the decor is meeting with Marty's approval.

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It doesn't look like you need to do anything to this place at all.

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-You just sort of move in and relax.

-Although...

-Apart from the carpet.

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I'm just anti-carpet, full stop. I could live with it.

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It's OK to have a bit of carpet.

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As far as carpets, this is actually a nice carpet.

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Well, that's something. And the garage raises a smile too.

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-Now you're talking.

-That's good.

-Outdoor equipment. Canoes.

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-Get the bikes in there.

-Forget about putting a car in it.

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Marty's making plans for this place already and he's not the only one.

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-Wow! This is lovely!

-This is a great space.

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I would love being in this kitchen, cooking and baking.

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Love those splashbacks as well. It's perfect.

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Even the cupboards are generously sized.

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-Holy Moley!

-That's cool. Could just fit you in there.

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But a wander outside leaves Magz less impressed.

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-It doesn't have the same outdoor space.

-But it's not bad. It's great.

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I could see us sitting out here, having a barbecue, Magz.

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Relaxing, playing the guitar, having friends over.

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You know, on a nice sunny evening, coming in from work,

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in this space, I could relax here.

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Marty has fallen for this house

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but the garden's just not cutting it with Magz.

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I just hate that it's not proper grass. It's quite closed in.

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The neighbours are overlooking your garden.

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It's not perfect but I could definitely live with this.

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It's so nice inside.

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A quick peek upstairs puts Magz in a better mood.

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Jeepers. This is the hallway!

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-And a work space.

-Brilliant, isn't it?

-It's lovely.

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-The master bedroom is also a hit.

-This place is huge. Massive wardrobe.

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It's great. Light, airy.

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-Again, really good finish, like the rest of the house.

-Marty is sold.

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Now all he has to do is convince Magz.

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-So we're taking it then, is what you're saying?

-I'm getting there.

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And the bedroom balcony might help.

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This would be good on a really warm summer's day when you need shade.

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Put your feet up, relax and read a book.

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-Look through a neighbour's windows.

-That's what I was going to say!

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Artificial grass aside,

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this house could be the perfect home for Marty and Magz.

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But will their £1,200 monthly budget cover its costs?

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I think it's going to be about 1,400 or 1,500.

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I believe it's going to be about 1,350.

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-Holy Moley!

-It's 1,250.

-I'm totally shocked.

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I thought this was going to be way out of our price range.

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I feel a lot more positive about sacrificing the outdoor space.

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-We've become very fussy from coming to Australia.

-I know we have.

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After a disappointing start to their day,

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this house could have helped Magz see the appeal of Aussie living.

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And there's still one more home to view.

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We've found what could be the couple's perfect property.

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It's situated in Brighton,

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one of Melbourne's most desirable beach-side suburbs.

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The area is geared towards people who love to live an active,

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outdoor lifestyle.

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So it should be the perfect match for Marty and Magz.

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-But will the house be their dream home?

-That is huge. It's lovely.

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-A neat old secluded garden.

-I know. I like it.

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Hopefully inside will go down well too.

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-Front door is amazing.

-Look at the floors. Oh, my goodness.

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-That is a really good house, isn't it?

-Stunning.

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It's a good start. Before long, the couple's differences on decor are raised yet again.

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It's definitely more your style than mine.

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-You'd love a bit of coving.

-I actually don't like this coving.

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-But, yes.

-For Marty, this house just doesn't feel like a home.

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It's beautiful, it's lovely,

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it's just not where I would envisage myself living.

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With three good-sized bedrooms,

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the house has all the space the couple could need.

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Another big bedroom, isn't it? Very nice. En suite.

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-It's totally down your street.

-I know.

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I'm totally open to the idea of me living in the other place

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and you living here. Just take one each!

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-That could prove pricey, Marty.

-It's got character.

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This house has bags of character.

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-The kitchen is one space the couple both like.

-Oh, my goodness.

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This is massive. I would move in tomorrow.

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But the garden feels a bit formal.

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I feel like I should get dressed up and have tea in a saucer.

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This house has the couple divided

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but would moving in even be an option?

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Would their rental budget of £1,200 stretch to affording this home?

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-I want to say 1,000...maybe 400.

-Yeah. I would go about 1,500.

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Way above budget.

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-670.

-We just could not afford to live here.

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Like, there's no... Although we haven't seen jobs and stuff.

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That's way above what we can afford.

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The last properties were the upper end of our budget

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-and that's at the other end.

-Yeah.

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Marty and Magz's property search has given them a real taste

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of how far their money would go in Australia.

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Property one was never going to take off when they realised it was

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directly beneath a flight path and near the top of their budget.

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The interiors of property two were perfectly suited to Marty's

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tastes but the fake grass in the garden left Magz cold.

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Property three was in a desirable area

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and its period features impressed Magz.

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Discovering it was £470 over budget left the couple reeling.

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So, after a day's house-hunting,

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would Marty and Magz choose property in Australia or at home?

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Based on the houses we've seen today, we are going to vote for...

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BOTH: Australia.

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We would have a lot more space, a lot more for our money here.

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Judging by what we have seen today, there is a chance

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that we'll find something that is affordable and absolutely amazing

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and a lot more than what we would get if we were living at home.

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Despite mixed reactions to properties,

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the couple have decided Australia offers more bang for their buck.

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A vote for Australia from Magz means Marty's campaign

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to convince her their future lies down under is off to a solid start.

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But if it's to become a reality,

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the couple will both need to secure the right jobs.

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Back in the UK, the couple have over 20 years'

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combined experience as community workers.

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Marty's currently a resilience coach,

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combining youth work with adventure learning.

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The end result is hopefully always the same,

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that they have someone they can confide in, trust,

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and that I suppose help them make their life a bit more positive.

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Magz is a project coordinator with an organisation helping to get

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young people into education and employment.

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I absolutely love it. I just love working with people.

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I love having the opportunity to support people to just

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move forward with their lives.

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The couple would be keen to stick to their rewarding careers in Australia.

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I mean, the ideal job would be something similar to what I'm doing here.

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Something that's a mix of youth development work and also adventure learning.

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The job is important to me.

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I do want to be working in something that I care about and that I enjoy.

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With a population of over four million,

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Marty and Magz are hopeful there will be plenty of opportunities

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for youth and community workers in Melbourne.

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Everything hinges on that.

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We won't be able to afford a place to live, we won't be able to afford

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the lifestyle I suppose we are hoping to get as a result

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of moving here, if we don't have jobs that can support that.

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Marty's visiting an organisation that combines

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youth counselling with adventure sports.

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He meets director Iudita Trifa-Schmidt

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to find out if he'd make the grade for a job.

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Our programme coordinators,

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they require a minimum of two qualifications in outdoor adventure.

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Obviously, looking at your CV, you do have those two.

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And also a good understanding of the community sector.

0:22:370:22:41

It's a positive start but she explains

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that because of a very low turnover of staff, openings are rare.

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Funding cuts also mean similar groups have fewer opportunities

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for new recruits. But it's not all bad news.

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Your youth work, you may be able to apply it broadly.

0:22:530:22:58

Anything from not-for-profit to local government and government.

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Magz has always been keen to combine dance with her counselling work.

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With no opportunities to study dance therapy at home,

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she is visiting Melbourne's Phoenix Institute to find out

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about the courses available.

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If we make the move to Australia,

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the dance therapy is something that I really want to pursue.

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So this will give me an idea of what the training is actually like

0:23:220:23:27

and it's something I definitely want to do with my future.

0:23:270:23:29

It's not long before Magz is feeling at one

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-with the rest of the class.

-We work in pairs.

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One person is client, the other person is therapist or responder.

0:23:350:23:39

With Magz in full flow, Marty's discovering

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although youth work may be hard to find, he could have other options.

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You may have worked with youth but the skills

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and experience you've got can be transferable to adults.

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And don't be afraid to try something new. Something different.

0:23:530:23:57

Securing employment may not be straightforward

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but what about the possible financial rewards?

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If I was to come here and I found a job similar to the workers

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that you have here, what sort of money will I be receiving?

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The salary per year comes to about 53,000, 54,000 per year.

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On top of that, they get allowances such as on call allowance

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and overnight stay allowance.

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Providing he finds work, that's around £5,000 more

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than what Marty owns in the UK and he's impressed by what he's heard.

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It's shown me that there is potential

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to do some real quality work here and I suppose that's really key.

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If we can get the money to survive then that's important also

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but it's also important to be in the right organisation.

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And the fact they recognise the skills that I have is great.

0:24:380:24:42

At the college, Magz is meeting head of faculty Kim Dunphy

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to discover if combining studying dance therapy

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with work is a real option.

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When we offer this course for international students,

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the government requirements are a little bit different.

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Students are required to attend 20 hours a week of classes

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so at Phoenix that would mean that we would have

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three days a week of classes.

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It's a pretty intense amount of work.

0:25:050:25:08

Discovering the class is full-time is a disappointment

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but could the benefits of completing the course make it worth Magz's

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while becoming a student again?

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I'm just wondering what my career prospects would be after doing the course?

0:25:160:25:20

You have training as a counsellor and that's a good starting point.

0:25:200:25:24

There is a lot of work around for counsellors in Australia.

0:25:240:25:27

What I would see happening here is you would apply for jobs

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and then you would be able to say, "And I do this."

0:25:310:25:34

Kim is also able to enlighten Magz about potential earnings.

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In Australia, salaries for counsellors would generally

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start at around 60,000 and go up to about 80,000.

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If she worked as a counsellor in Australia,

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Magz would earn almost £6,000 more than in the UK.

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Her day has ended on positive news

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but thoughts of home are never far away.

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I should be really excited.

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But I know already, I just feel like I want to live here

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and I want to be here and that means moving away and...

0:26:080:26:12

Sorry.

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And leaving people behind.

0:26:160:26:18

Magz will face a tough decision at the end of this week but for now,

0:26:180:26:23

she's reunited with Marty to choose between work in Australia or the UK.

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Based on what we've seen, heard and experienced today,

0:26:280:26:31

we are going to vote for...

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Undecided.

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There's positive stuff that came out of today for both of us.

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Especially around training opportunities for you and recognising my qualifications.

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But we've still got to investigate this more, I think,

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before we know we can come over here and live and be happy.

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Uncertainty over job aspects has seen Magz

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and Marty play safe with an undecided vote.

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Marty believes one benefit of moving down under

0:27:030:27:06

would be more opportunities to satisfy the couple's appetite

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for adventure sports.

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So will a day doing just that bring the Australian dream back on track?

0:27:110:27:16

Weather permitting, back in the UK,

0:27:160:27:18

the couple are passionate about rock climbing.

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So to see how it compares down under,

0:27:210:27:23

-they are visiting the You Yangs regional park.

-G'day, guys.

0:27:230:27:26

-How're you doing?

-Not bad.

-Good. Ready for a great day's climbing?

0:27:260:27:29

Yeah. It's a beautiful day.

0:27:290:27:31

The couple are climbing with instructor Richard Lodge from the Rock Adventure Centre,

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and waste no time getting stuck in.

0:27:350:27:37

The scene from the summit is well worth the effort.

0:27:440:27:47

-Lovely views.

-Climbing in the sun.

0:27:470:27:50

I could definitely see us here at weekends.

0:27:500:27:53

-Rope.

-It's exactly the kind of lifestyle Marty and Magz would love.

0:27:530:27:58

Everything is quite accessible.

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Even an hour, an hour and a half's drive and you've got the sea

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and you can be out in the kayaks or out learning a new sport.

0:28:040:28:08

And unlike at home, their plans shouldn't be rained off.

0:28:080:28:11

One of my only concerns is that the weather is actually too good.

0:28:110:28:14

That it's too sunny in the summer to actually do

0:28:140:28:16

some of the stuff we really want to do, like climbing.

0:28:160:28:19

But I'm sure if the rock's too hot then maybe

0:28:190:28:21

we need to take up another sport like surfing.

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It's a hard life!

0:28:230:28:25

The Australian dream may have started with Marty

0:28:250:28:28

but today is selling the country to both him and Magz.

0:28:280:28:31

Things are so chilled out. There's no stress, no worry.

0:28:310:28:35

We've just been enjoying ourselves and I guess that is different to back

0:28:350:28:40

home because the fact that we are coming from different communities.

0:28:400:28:43

You sort of have to be aware of that back home and it doesn't matter here.

0:28:430:28:48

But with a previous move away ending badly,

0:28:480:28:51

Magz is wary of the price of being free from prejudice.

0:28:510:28:54

The possibility of friends or family falling ill when she's not there.

0:28:540:28:58

I know what it's like to be away from home

0:28:580:29:00

and to have to deal with that on your own.

0:29:000:29:02

And being away from family members who you know are struggling with it.

0:29:040:29:08

So...

0:29:100:29:12

And I know there's potential for that to happen. It will.

0:29:120:29:15

It's inevitable, do you know what I mean? You're going to lose people.

0:29:150:29:18

Marty's also got his own more practical concerns.

0:29:180:29:21

The cost of living might be something

0:29:210:29:24

that I'm worried about, and also whether there would be jobs.

0:29:240:29:29

It's going to be a mathematical equation, isn't it?

0:29:290:29:31

Magz knows the next few days could challenge the couple's relationship.

0:29:310:29:35

This has been Marty's dream and I guess if we're not on the same page

0:29:350:29:39

at the end of the week, it's going to be tough for us.

0:29:390:29:43

It's something we're going to have to discuss

0:29:430:29:46

and I really don't want to be in that place with each other.

0:29:460:29:50

Come the end of the week, both Marty and Magz will face

0:29:500:29:53

a difficult decision but for now, will the couple choose

0:29:530:29:56

the lifestyle in Australia over the one they have back home in the UK?

0:29:560:30:01

We are going to vote for...

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-Australia.

-Australia.

0:30:080:30:11

Why would you not want to be here, enjoying the sun

0:30:110:30:13

and getting really good climbing in?

0:30:130:30:16

There's a lot of opportunities here for us. It's great.

0:30:160:30:18

It's been a great day, hasn't it?

0:30:180:30:20

If they made the move to Australia,

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Marty and Magz would be keen to get involved with the local community.

0:30:310:30:34

To get a feel for how they could settle in, we've arranged

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for them to visit neighbourhood allotments in St Kilda.

0:30:370:30:40

Stuff is going to grow all year round here, isn't it?

0:30:400:30:42

This is winter but you're still going to get vegetables growing.

0:30:420:30:45

With over 140 plots, Veg Out is the perfect place for them

0:30:450:30:49

to get their hands dirty.

0:30:490:30:51

To find out more, they meet members Tim and Hugh.

0:30:510:30:54

It's an old bowling club.

0:30:540:30:55

When they left here in 1998 and joined another bowling club,

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this was left vacant.

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So a few of the people who lived in the area

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decided to turn it into a community garden.

0:31:030:31:05

Keen urban gardeners, this could be ideal for the couple.

0:31:050:31:08

It's a community space and anybody can come in between dawn

0:31:080:31:12

and dusk and generally the last plotter out locks up the gate.

0:31:120:31:16

It's the perfect place to sow the seeds of friendship.

0:31:160:31:18

The social aspect is one of the biggest ones.

0:31:180:31:21

There's a lot of apartment living.

0:31:210:31:23

Get out, meet your neighbours and have a spot where you can go,

0:31:230:31:25

rather than a restaurant or a cafe.

0:31:250:31:27

It looks like the couple could fit right in here,

0:31:270:31:30

which should allay any concerns about putting down new roots.

0:31:300:31:33

It's a community, you know,

0:31:330:31:36

and that's one thing I don't want to give up or leave behind.

0:31:360:31:40

There's a real sense that people are here to be with each other

0:31:400:31:44

-and to enjoy each other's company.

-They seem our type of people.

0:31:440:31:49

Their week so far has shown Marty and Magz

0:31:530:31:55

that Melbourne could be the perfect place for them

0:31:550:31:58

to settle but if the figures don't stack up financially,

0:31:580:32:01

any move could be off the cards.

0:32:010:32:03

The couple hope to rent out their home in Belfast

0:32:030:32:05

for around £500 per month if they did emigrate.

0:32:050:32:09

We sent round two estate agents to see if they agreed.

0:32:090:32:13

There's our street!

0:32:140:32:17

It's a nice terrace property.

0:32:170:32:19

-Actually, there is a small courtyard at the front.

-The house looks good!

0:32:190:32:22

Open-plan. Compact living room. Nice gas fire.

0:32:220:32:27

Nice fitted kitchen. Modern beech units. Very complimentary. Gas hob.

0:32:290:32:35

-A nice, compact bathroom. Nice tiling.

-It is compact.

0:32:350:32:39

There's a lot of small references, isn't it? But positive.

0:32:390:32:42

It's unfortunate not to have this upstairs but very well done.

0:32:420:32:47

Nice and contemporary.

0:32:470:32:48

Nice size master bedroom. Plenty of storage.

0:32:480:32:52

Good man. Stretch that leg over.

0:32:530:32:55

It would be better if they went to their local builder or local

0:32:550:32:58

council and got a door there, it would make access a lot better.

0:32:580:33:02

But otherwise, it is a good area.

0:33:020:33:04

This is a very attractive mid-terrace property.

0:33:060:33:10

My rental value estimate would be £525 per calendar month.

0:33:100:33:14

-It's what we expected.

-What we were expecting.

0:33:140:33:16

My rental valuation would be between £525 and £550 per calendar month.

0:33:160:33:22

That's good. That's the upper end of what we thought.

0:33:220:33:27

The valuations are definitely a step in the right direction but now the

0:33:270:33:30

couple need to compare living costs in Australia with those in the UK.

0:33:300:33:34

We've compiled the figures to help them out,

0:33:340:33:37

-starting with the grocery shop.

-Spinach! 1.20 more!

0:33:370:33:42

Oranges, three quid more.

0:33:420:33:45

-We knew this was going to be more expensive.

-Yeah.

0:33:470:33:50

Luckily, not everything is more expensive.

0:33:500:33:52

Peanut butter is actually cheaper here. That's a surprise.

0:33:520:33:55

-What's that?

-Stock cubes. A lot cheaper.

-One pound cheaper.

0:33:550:33:59

We can have peanut butter, stock cubes and grapes and hummus.

0:33:590:34:03

-Mm!

-Delicious!

0:34:030:34:05

But will they still be smiling when they see what the inflated prices

0:34:050:34:09

-mean for their fortnightly food shop?

-It's £149.57.

0:34:090:34:14

That would be a difference of £80 a month.

0:34:140:34:18

Next, the couple look at their bigger bills,

0:34:180:34:20

basing calculations on the first property they viewed.

0:34:200:34:24

So, the rent for the first property was 1,130.

0:34:240:34:28

-It's a lot, isn't it?

-Yes. It is.

0:34:300:34:33

In the UK, their monthly outgoings are around £2,270.

0:34:330:34:38

And Australia...

0:34:380:34:40

For Australia, the total outgoings would be 2,687.28.

0:34:400:34:45

-It costs £417 more to live here, in terms of our costs.

-It's quite a lot.

0:34:480:34:54

It is quite a lot.

0:34:540:34:56

But can their potential salaries in Australia cover that spend?

0:34:560:34:59

Their figures are based on Magz shelving her plan to study

0:34:590:35:02

dance therapy and work full-time.

0:35:020:35:05

So, total income for the UK is 3,150.

0:35:050:35:10

And total income for Australia is £4,481.

0:35:130:35:17

The couple stand to earn £1,300 more every month than they do in the UK.

0:35:200:35:25

I'm shocked. I actually did not think that was going to be the reality.

0:35:250:35:29

Even taking into account their higher spending,

0:35:300:35:33

-the figures are favourable.

-£913.24.

0:35:330:35:37

That's what we're increasing a month.

0:35:390:35:42

I mean, that's a massive amount of money.

0:35:420:35:44

In fact, it's almost £11,000 a year.

0:35:440:35:47

We're comparing our life back home in a two-bedroom,

0:35:470:35:51

teeny inner-city house to a big house with four bedrooms,

0:35:510:35:55

a massive garden and close to the beach.

0:35:550:35:58

It's like day and night.

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I don't know what I'm going to spend all that on.

0:36:010:36:04

You'll find a way to spend it.

0:36:040:36:06

Marty's dream could be well and truly on track to become a reality.

0:36:060:36:11

We've just done the figures and based on that, we've decided to vote for...

0:36:110:36:15

BOTH: Australia.

0:36:210:36:23

It's a no-brainer, isn't it?

0:36:230:36:26

We found out today it's just going to be so much...

0:36:260:36:29

much more better off.

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Realising how much better off they could be in Australia's

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a real boost for Marty's chances of persuading Magz to follow his dream.

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But there is still one final fence to clear.

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The time has now come for Magz to face the emotional cost of the move

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as the couple sit down to watch messages from loved ones at home.

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-Hi, Marty and Magz.

-ALL: Hi, Magz and Marty.

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G'day! How's it going?

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Marty and Magz as a couple are pretty awesome.

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They just seem to match perfectly.

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Marty's a really kind person.

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He is really genuine.

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He's the sort of person that would give a total

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stranger his last £10 note.

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He has been such a role model and such a support for me,

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raising these three children.

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Margaret is such a selfless person. She is lovely.

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I don't think she realises sometimes how valued

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and loved she is by people.

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Sorry. But she really is. She's just amazing.

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She's like my best friend.

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I could just talk to Margaret all day, you know.

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She'd be there, no matter what.

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I would be behind them 100%.

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Whatever makes them happy.

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I will really miss them. I will.

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I know you'll make the best decision for yourselves

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and for your future and that's all we want is for yous to be happy.

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I will really miss you but I want what's best for you.

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If this is both your dreams, go for it and just live the life

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because it's time for yous to get something back for yourselves

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cos yous have gave enough to a lot of people here.

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You've worked so hard so give it a shot if it's what you want

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and I hope it works out.

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Are you OK?

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It's hard.

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I just feel...

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..like I'm going in circles.

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I feel like there's so much here for us

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and then I've seen those videos and it's like...

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It's brought...

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-It has brought the reality back.

-It's massive, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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Sorry.

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Words of support from home were hard to hear for both Magz and Marty.

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As a final decision draws ever closer, will they prove

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the deciding factor when it comes to where the couple's future lies?

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When Marty touched down in Australia for the first time,

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he was hoping the country could offer a fresh start

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in a community free of prejudice and the trial week has proved him right.

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It is quite clear to me that it would be

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a positive experience, you know, to live here

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and experience the lifestyle, the culture, the opportunities.

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The week has surpassed partner Magz's expectations too.

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There's been times where I've literally been thinking

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I would move here tomorrow. It's an amazing place.

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I genuinely understand why so many people come to Australia and they don't want to leave.

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Although securing jobs may not be straightforward,

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Marty feels the country does offer benefits over their life at home.

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Seeing that not only could we potentially afford to live here

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and live well here, but we would be also making a lot more money,

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which could open up opportunities for us.

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But for Magz, their potential good fortune is bittersweet.

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Even in the middle of the best experiences

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that I've had this week, I've been really emotional

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because I'm constantly reminded that making the move to Australia

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means moving away from my family and my friends.

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It is a big sacrifice.

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The couple face a life-changing decision

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and they both know what's at stake.

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We are a team. That's it. Plain and simple.

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So if it's too much then we'll just carry on

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being happy in the life that we have back home.

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It's most definitely not going to be the worst case scenario.

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I really worry about the fact that he may be sacrificing things

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because of where I'm at with things.

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I guess what this week's been about is our future

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and it's not just what makes me happy,

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it's about what makes Marty happy as well.

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You know, I want the both of us to be sitting, when we are old,

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saying we're really happy with the choices we've made

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and what we've done to make our life as good as it can be.

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After much soul-searching, it's time for Magz and Marty

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to decide once and for all where they'll spend their future.

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We've had an amazing week here in Melbourne, Australia.

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We have looked at the type of jobs we could have, where we

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could possibly live and the type of lifestyle that we'd have.

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And as the result of that, we are now going to vote for...

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BOTH: Australia!

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-Serious?

-Yeah.

-Great.

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I just think we'd be really happy here and yes,

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it's going to be tough leaving people behind

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but I would hate to think that we didn't take this opportunity.

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You know, that's what we're about.

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It's about getting as much out of life and experience as we can

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and I think Australia has so many opportunities for us.

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This is going to be a big change for us.

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And a big challenge.

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But it's definitely worth the risk of giving it a go

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and if it doesn't work out, well, at least we've tried.

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It has been a rollercoaster for me.

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But I am really excited.

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With so much potential for a happy future,

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far from the old divisions that restrained life at home,

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it seems Magz is more than willing to make Marty's dream come true.

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We wish them health, wealth and happiness as they set out

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on what could be their biggest adventure yet.

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