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Raising your first child can be hard at the best of times | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
but it is even tougher when one parent is hardly ever at home. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
So how far would you go to get the time together you were dreaming of? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
For one young family, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
it could mean a move to the other side of the world. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Long hours toiling on a farm | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
means dad Josh hardly has any time with son Cai. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
And mum Sian has had enough. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
He will go and stand at the front door | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
and he will shout for his daddy. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
That really upsets me. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Desperate to bring her family together, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
she thinks New Zealand could be the answer. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
We need to be working less and living more. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
But when a trial week reveals some home truths | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
about starting again on the other side of the world... | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
A bit of a shoe box, isn't it? | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
Our garden is nothing special at all | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
but we have got five times the size of this. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:48 | |
We can't move to the other side of the world and buy a mansion. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Will Sian ever be able to persuade Josh to give her | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
the life she dreams of? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
One half saying, we just stay in Wales | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
and the other half saying, flee the nest. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
I want to move, but I don't think you're going to let me. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Just over 1,200 miles southeast of Australia, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
New Zealand is made up of two main islands. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Boasting mountains, glaciers, volcanoes and beaches, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
it's been a magnet for British immigrants ever since the 1800s. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Back then, the journey took over 100 days, but now it is a lot faster | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
for the 9,000 families who make the move each year | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
looking for a more relaxed pace of life. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Sian James is desperate for more time together with partner Josh | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
and the couple's young son, Cai. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
And even though she has never been before | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
she believes New Zealand could be the answer. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
But will the country live up to Sian's expectations? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
And will she be able to persuade Josh | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
to leave behind everything they have in the UK? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Ahead is a week that will see them decide where their future lies | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
once and for all. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
After making their way from Wales to London | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
the family fly 12,000 miles to Auckland. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
It is the first time they have been to New Zealand | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
and after 26 and a half hours in the air | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
the journey has taken them by surprise. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
I don't think it is as easy as I thought to actually get here. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
So, it's... Yeah, it has hit home that it is really far. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Travelling with a one-year-old child | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
didn't make the flight go any quicker. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
It has been quite testing. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Er, but...you know, I expect that from a youngster, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
travelling all that distance. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
-He did fall asleep every takeoff and every landing. -Yeah. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Yeah, he did make a few friends on the trip, didn't he? | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
So, after the long trip to get here | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
how does Sian feel to finally be in New Zealand? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
It doesn't feel real at the moment. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
I think I need to, you know, see it and live as if we were living here. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
It will be her one shot at persuading Josh to move. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Now we will be able to answer the questions that we have been asking. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
So hopefully now, they will be the right answers. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
As they set out to explore Auckland | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
there is no doubt the next week will make or break Sian's Kiwi dream. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
Back in the UK, Josh Powell and Sian James live | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
with their one-year-old son, Cai, in the Welsh village of Pen-y-Groes. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
It is a scenic setting | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
but Josh's job on his dad's farm is putting the family under pressure. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
Waking up with the cockerels every morning and working | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
until the cows go home at night means | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
he has precious little time with his partner and son. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
When I wake up, Josh is gone. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
I get Cai ready, I drop him off and I go to work. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
And then I pick him up and it's just putting him to bed | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
and just waiting for you to come home. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
And then Josh is tired because he has been working 13, 14 hours | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
so we have food together and then you fall asleep. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Yeah! | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
With farming a seven-days-a-week occupation, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
there is no respite come the weekend, either, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
meaning Josh spends Saturdays | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
and Sundays in the field rather than at home. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
It is tough, but, you know, the only thing that keeps me going is knowing | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
that I am keeping a roof over his head and putting food on the table. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
Also working full-time | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
Sian knows Josh isn't just making hay while the sun shines, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
but worries about Cai seeing so little of his dad. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
He'll go and stand at the front door and he'll shout for his daddy. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
That really upsets me | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
because I can see that Cai is wanting that relationship with his dad | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
but the hours of his work doesn't allow for that. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
All the hours spent apart | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
means Josh is missing out on little moments as Cai grows up. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
He learns a lot of animal noises and then he will do one to me | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
out of the blue and I realise that he has been doing it for a while | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
but just because I haven't been around, I haven't seen. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
I can see the disappointment on Josh's face then. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
You know, it's just... it's just not nice. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
And it's not just Cai that is being affected. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
We are only young | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
but we don't have time together, really, just you and me, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-going out somewhere, together. -No. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
Desperate for a normal family life and despite never having been, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Sian believes the answer could lie in New Zealand. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Although I love Wales, I don't feel that it's where I want to settle. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:33 | |
And that work/life balance is vitally important | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and they seem to have it sussed, out there. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
And I just want that. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
But Josh isn't convinced. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
Though he'd love more time at home too | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
he believes Sian's head's firmly in the clouds. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
She needs to realise it's not going to be just fun and games. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
You have to work as well, out in New Zealand, to earn a living. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
You can have all the time in the world, but if you can't sustain your | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
house and your family, then, you know, you're on a downward spiral. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
For him, moving would mean leaving the village | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
he's always called home. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
I've always been in Pen-y-Groes. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
I've got a lot of friends in the area and family. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
We are all a close-knit community around here. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
And having to break the bond | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
Cai's already building with his grandparents. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
My mother looks after him two days a week. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-I think she's... -She loves him. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
-She loves the time, just her and Cai. -They love each other. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
So I think it'll be a lot... It will be a big hole to need to fill in. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:27 | |
While Sian's prepared to sacrifice the relationship | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
she has for the sake of her young family's future, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
she fears leaving loved ones could prove too much for Josh. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
I do feel guilty. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
And I know for sure, Josh's mother is going to be heartbroken | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
to be away from Cai, because... | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
they've got a fantastic bond. They love each other. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
So, that is going to be one of the hardest things. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
But fed up feeling like a single parent | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
she knows action is needed if her family are to be together. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
I don't think while staying where we are, or even in Wales... | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
I don't think it's going to change because Josh is always going to want | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
to help his father because, you know, that's completely natural. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
The week ahead will see the couple decide once and for all | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
where their future lies. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
I don't think he sees that moving to the other side of the world is... | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
..you know, is something he needs to do to get that, whereas, I do. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
-Is grass always greener over the other side? -Yeah. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
That's the big question. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
To see if New Zealand can offer the family the time together | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
she wants, Sian, Josh and Cai are visiting Auckland, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
the country's largest city. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
Their temporary base is an apartment in Swanson, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
a village just over 30 minutes' drive from the city's centre. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Close to amenities but removed from hustle and bustle, the area should | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
be a home from home and from the outside, Sian likes what she sees. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
I really like it. It is really pretty. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Inside, her enthusiasm continues. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-It's nice and spacious, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Oh, wow. That is gorgeous. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
But what does Josh have to say? | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Bit small, I'd say. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
But, er, no, it is a practical space. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Mmm, a man of few words. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Could you see us here? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
-Here? -With that view. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
-Er, no, not in this house. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
OK, I'll work on you, then. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
With a bed for Cai sorted, he gets some sleep, while mum | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
and dad check out the garden and Josh finally speaks his mind. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
What do you think? | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
It's all right, isn't it? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
It's more of an old people's home. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Low maintenance type thing, isn't it? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
I quite like low maintenance. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
-Low maintenance it is. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Ouch, that's low, Josh! | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
As the couple settle in | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
Sian's already feeling anxious about what lies ahead. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
This week is the make-or-break week, you know? | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
We either fall in love with it and do it or it will never be a reality. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
Convincing Josh to up sticks and start again won't be easy. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Mainly because of the work and the money. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
I don't see the point of moving all the way across the world | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
if you're not going to be better off than what you are back in the UK. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Sian knows she may have to fight for her dream | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
but hopes the coming week will give Josh the answers he wants. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
I genuinely believe that if there was a job with less hours | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
and decent pay that Josh would be sold | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
because I think he would love living here if we could afford to do so. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
She may be right, but for now, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
Josh remains cautious about where his family's future lies. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Unless...pretty much every box is ticked with me | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
I will be choosing the UK. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Back in Wales, the family's first home is a two-bedroom house | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
they believe is worth around £80,000. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
It is an ex-council house. Small, little garden, nothing special. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
Really, erm, decorated it from what it was. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
-We've stripped all the wallpaper, haven't we? -Yeah. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
And new floors throughout, so we have worked hard to get it to where it is. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
Despite their best efforts, it's not quite perfect. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
I quite like the downstairs, but I wish we had another living room. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
While Sian's hoping for more from a house in New Zealand... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
I'd like to have three-bedroom-or-more property | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
and I'd like it to be modern. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
I'm not so bothered about the lounge | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
but the kitchen-diner is the most important part for me. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Josh's needs are simpler. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Large garden, that is my main priority, is the garden. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Obviously then a nice kitchen for Sian. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Josh and Sian have between £125,000 and £130,000 | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
to buy a house in New Zealand. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
And with Auckland ranked amongst the world's most expensive cities, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
every penny will count. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
To see what they can afford, we'll show them three properties. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
Two based on budget, and a third based on their ideal home. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Only after they have seen each one will they find out its cost. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
With Cai cared for by a childminder, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
the search starts in Henderson, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
a large suburb just eight miles from the city centre. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
With shops, schools and excellent transport links, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
the area has everything the young family could need. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
But will the house come up to scratch? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
-It is a bit cramped, isn't it? -Yes, built up a bit. -A bit squished in. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
The exterior may not meet Sian's expectations | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
but things look more promising inside. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Quite spacious, going in, isn't it? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
-House is a nice design. -Yeah, lovely inside. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Initially, anyway. Closer inspection of the kitchen raises doubts. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
-Nice, basic kitchen, but it's a bit on the small side. -Yeah. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-It's nice units and everything. -Yeah. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Just a shame that it's a bit small. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
And a glimpse out of the window leaves the couple both uninspired. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
No, it's... not the best view in the world. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
I will be here, spending most of my time cleaning up after you and Cai! | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
-Yeah. -And that's what I'll be looking at. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Unfortunately, things don't look better in the garden. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
-Ah, it is a bit small, isn't it? -Yeah, really small. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
It is nice not having all houses built behind us. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
But I don't like it. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Sian's disappointed | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
and it's clearly not the space Josh would want either. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Our garden's nothing special at all, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
but five times the size of this, isn't it? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Back home, I can open the patio doors from the kitchen | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
and Cai can go out, and he is playing, but he's safe. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
I wouldn't leave him out here because he could leg it, couldn't he? | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
The garden might be a letdown, but with three bedrooms, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
this house does have more space than the couple's property at home. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-Tidy sized double, isn't it? -Yeah. Nice and big. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
But again, the view's a problem. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Overlooking other houses wasn't part of Sian's plan. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
-Oh, wow, I've moved to New Zealand(!) -Yeah, it is... | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Look at the view. SHE LAUGHS | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
-Bit cramped, isn't it? -Yeah, I feel a bit claustrophobic. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And even a bedroom for guests isn't enough to change her mind. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
We kind of need that little bit of a wow factor | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-so people can understand why we've... -Yeah. -..why we've moved. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
This house has been a letdown, but would it be somewhere Sian | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
and Josh could call home with their £125,000 to £130,000 budget? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:37 | |
-I'd say £125,000. -I just... I think it would be less. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
I would say the £115,000 mark. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
-Shall we have a look? -Yeah. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
I'm a bit nervous now. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
HE INTAKES BREATH AND CHUCKLES | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
Oh! | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
-That's much more than I thought it would be. -Yeah. -£133,000 is... | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
-A bit of a shock, really. -Yeah. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
I feel a bit gutted. The other two properties need to be less expensive. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
-A bit more special. -A bit more special. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
So, it's a bit worrying because... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I don't want to be more disappointed than I am right now. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
The reality of this property's price has floored Sian. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Her attempt to convince Josh to move isn't off to a good start. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
To win him round | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
any house will have to offer more than they have at home. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Onwards and upwards, the couple move to the suburb of Meadowbank. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
With nearby beaches and schools, and just a short commute to Auckland, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
it's popular with families looking for more affordable housing. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
-It's cute-looking, isn't it? -It's nice it's a bit off the road. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
But will it be as endearing inside? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
This is nice, eh? Nice and airy. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
-I quite like it. -Yeah. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
It's a better start. | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
I know it's built up around, but there's trees | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
-and stuff breaking it up, so it's not so in-your-face. -Yeah. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
So far, so good. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
But discovering the garden actually belongs to the neighbours | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
leads to more disappointment. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
-It's a real shame that we won't have any outside space. -No. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
You know, you can't really let Cai play on the drive, can you? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
Lacking a big garden again could be another dealbreaker for Josh. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
I think I'd pull my hair out | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
if I couldn't be able to go outside in the garden. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
It would do my head in. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
Sian seems happy with the dining area, though. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
I wouldn't mind sitting here, eating my breakfast, looking out on that. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
And I like the calendar! | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Don't think that comes with the house! | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
And unfortunately, the tiny kitchen isn't as attractive. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Bit of a shoe box, isn't it? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:46 | |
Look at that sink, it's like, you know, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
you can only wash one plate at a time. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
This doesn't give off, like, a family vibe, to be honest with you. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
-No, it's like a flat for... -Yeah, one or two people, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
Like the previous property, this house just isn't what | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Sian envisaged moving across the world for. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Just a bit gutted that there's no garden and the kitchen is tiny. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
So I can't see us living here. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
A look at the master bedroom restores some hope. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Nice room, isn't it? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
Lovely big room. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:16 | |
-Built-in wardrobes again. -Yep. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
And it doesn't seem so built up because of the trees and things. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
And though there's only two bedrooms, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
the second leaves Josh speechless. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
He's funny, isn't he? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
A closer look gives Sian serious food for thought. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
-This would be Cai's room, wouldn't it? -Yeah. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
But then, I don't know if I like that he's looking out on the road | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
and he's the closest one to the front door. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
And the bathroom isn't a great selling point either. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
This is a bit cramped, isn't it? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
-It's not child friendly at all, is it, really? -No. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
I'm a bit disappointed. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Everything seems to be scaled down here but more expensive. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Despite a good start, this place has also been a disappointment. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Could the price make it more appealing? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
The couple's budget is £125,000 to £130,000. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
I think it's going to be around the £128,000 mark. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
But I'm hoping it's less | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
so we can still have hope that we could afford something better. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
I think it's worth about £120,000. It is... | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
OK, the location is quite near to Auckland, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
but, you know, at the end of the day, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
it is only a two-bedroom house. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-Shall we have a look? -Yeah. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-A-ha! Bang on! -Yeah. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Good guess, Sian. £128,000. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Seeing the prices of properties so far, it has put a doubt in my mind. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
But, d'you know, I suppose if it was someone from New Zealand | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
coming to Wales, if you are looking around Cardiff, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
they are going to be expensive, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
and if you go to where we are from, with that sort of budget, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
you'll be...you know, you'll get a really tidy house, won't you? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
So far, their day exploring Auckland's properties | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
has fallen way short of even Sian's expectations. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Can their last viewing deliver the right balance of bang for buck? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Situated in the township of Parakai, 27 miles northwest of Auckland, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
we found what should be the couple's ideal property. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
This more rural location promises more value for money, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
but will the house have the wow factor Sian wants? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
-First impressions, much, much better, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
At last, something to smile about. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
And Sian's quick to point out the outside space. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
It's not massive, but there's a garden | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and there's plenty of room for Cai to play in. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
To have that decking there, it's nice. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
-We could just come out and eat our supper and things. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
From outside, at least, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:07 | |
this property is much more in line with Sian's dream. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
I'm really liking this one. I hope the inside is nice. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Only one way to find out. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
-Nice little kitchen. -Yeah. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
The only thing that I would add to this, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
is I'd want to have the big kitchen table in the kitchen. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
That could be arranged, but may not be enough. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
It kind of feels like a big, static caravan, doesn't it? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
It also needs some TLC. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
But Sian's determined to stay positive | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
as the couple check out the master bedroom. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
This room is, you know, it's an all right room. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
-Is this a walk-in wardrobe? -I don't think it's walk-in. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
-It's a wardrobe. -Wardrobe. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
Unless there's a hidden Narnia at the back, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
you won't go far in that wardrobe! | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Overall, Josh is confused. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
The other houses... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
I kind of knew before I went in there, this is not for me. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-So the rest didn't really matter. -Yeah. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
But driving up here, I thought, this is going to be amazing. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
I think we're just being a bit too fussy. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
I mean, it's got everything we've asked for, really, isn't it? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
It's also got somewhere for guests, even if it is on the petite side. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
It's really, really small, isn't it? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
But it is a third bedroom, which is a plus, isn't it? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
You've just got to think of it as a couple-of-years place. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
I mean, we can't move to the other side of the world and buy a mansion. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
You know, we are not any richer in this country than we are in Wales. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Sian is doing everything she can to hold on to the dream. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
Even if the house isn't perfect, it could potentially be a home | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
but only if within reach of the couple's £125,000 to £130,000 budget. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:41 | |
Well, it's definitely over budget. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
I would think that it was around the £150,000 mark. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
I'd say it's about £140,000. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
-Shall we have a look? -Yeah. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
-OK. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
-OK. I don't think that's ever achievable for us. -No. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
That's a shock. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
If we had that kind of money, we could have an amazing house at home. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
-I can't believe that. -Yeah. -That's ridiculous. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
You know, if this house, which is | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
one that we'd settle for, for a few years, is way out of our reach, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
then, you know, I don't see that it's doable at all. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
Well, I think it's pretty impossible, to be honest with you. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-It's proper burst the bubble, hasn't it? -Yeah. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
Discovering the true cost of property in Auckland | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
has left Sian stunned | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
and could be a real blow to her chances of convincing Josh to move. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
Property 1 was much too small in every way, apart from the price tag. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
Property 2 was a non-runner | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
when the couple found out it had no garden, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
yet was still near the top of their budget. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Although far from their ideal home, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
the final property did give Sian hope the dream was achievable, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
until they discovered it was substantially over budget. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
So, when all's said and done, has house-hunting left them | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
favouring property at home or away? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-UK. -UK. -I think it is a no-brainer, isn't it? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Yeah, it's not really something we need to discuss, is it? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
It's just plain sailing UK. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
-I think our budget means nothing out here. -No. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
You know, we'd need to be a heck of a lot better off | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
to actually do the move. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
With property prospects disappointing, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Sian's dream has taken a dive, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
and Josh could be further away than ever from agreeing to make the move. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
Emigrating is all about getting a better work/life balance, though. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
So, if the right job opportunities exist, it may not be game over yet. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
In the UK, Josh works between 60 and 70 hours a week on his dad's farm. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
The hours are pretty tough going, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
you don't get to see much of the family. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
The work itself, I enjoy. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
You know, it is long hours, but that's the trade of farming. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
Sian works as a payroll administrator | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
and volunteers with the Welsh Special Constabulary. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I'm hoping that it will lead me | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
into the role of regular officer in the future. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
She'd love to turn her volunteering into a career, but whatever path | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
she follows, getting the right hours would be key. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Our working hours are vitally important. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
We need to be working less and living more. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Ideally, Josh would like to be a tree surgeon | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
but if the money isn't right, he'll be sticking with the farm. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
I'm not expecting to earn millions | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
but if the salary's not good enough, it'll be end of story then. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
While Cai's looked after by a childminder, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
the couple are anxiously awaiting what their day exploring | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Auckland's job market might bring. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
This is probably one of the most important factors | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
in moving to New Zealand. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
I just want good news. And nothing else! | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
For Sian, the day begins with a meeting with immigration consultant | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Holger Weischede, to find out about joining New Zealand's police force. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
And unfortunately, it's bad news. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
The police is only recruiting residents. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
You don't have to be a citizen | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
but you need to be a resident visa holder already. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
So, what would be the best way for us to get residency? | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
I see a potential for the skilled migrant category application, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
most likely it's going to be Josh as the principal applicant | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
and you as a secondary and the child as a dependant child, obviously. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
Once you've got the residents visa approved, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
that's when you can apply and be considered for the police positions. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
Sian's dreams of a life on the beat may have to wait. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Meanwhile, Josh is meeting James Alexander, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
a project manager with one of Auckland's tree surgery companies. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
Australasia-wide, we employ, probably, 400-450 people currently. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
So we've got branches up north, in Hamilton, Wellington, Christchurch | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
and offshore in Brisbane. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Hopefully, that could mean plenty of opportunities. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
So you've seen my CV, what's the chance of me having a job out here? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Currently, with your CV and being a non-qualified arborist, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
we couldn't employ you in that role. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
It's not the best start for Josh either, but already experienced | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
in chainsawing, James reveals branching out shouldn't be too hard. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
You've already got the chainsaw NPTC. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:43 | |
You need rope and harness and competency for chainsaw in a tree. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
If you were to get those two, then you become of much more interest. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
We could actually take you on as an arborist as such. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Confident he can add to his qualifications at home, Josh would | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
be happy to do so, provided his efforts pay off in the long run. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
-What's the demand? -It's currently on the job shortage list. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
I would have thought your chances of getting a job would be pretty good. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
It's encouraging, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:09 | |
but would working as a tree surgeon allow him to cut down his hours? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
-So, roughly, what's the working hours? -47 and a half hours a week. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
So, compared to your farm work, it's quite a bit less. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
That should be music to Sian's ears. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
All that's left now is to talk money. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
25 an hour or more | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
and that would roughly equate to NZ52,000 a year. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
If he gained the necessary qualifications, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Josh could earn around £7,000 more than he does back home. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
It's a positive end to the meeting. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Meanwhile, Sian's turned her attention | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
from the forces to finance. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
So, I work full-time in finance but I volunteer with the police, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
so I'd be quite happy with either. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
To find out more, she meets Rachel Smith, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
a payroll and admin recruitment specialist. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Based on my experience, do you think I need more qualifications | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-or do you think I am employable? -You'd definitely be employable. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
You've got good administration skills, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
so we could put you in a variety of different admin roles. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
That's better news for Sian, but would the hours suit? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
What are the working hours here? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Most of the roles we are looking at for you would be full-time, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
so between 37 to 40 hours a week. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
That's around what Sian's used to. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
So through temp work with your organisation, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
what would my salary be? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
For a temp or contract assignment, you'd be looking around | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
20 to 25 an hour, plus your holiday pay and benefits, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
which would equate to an annual salary of NZ40,000 to NZ45,000. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
An increase of between £5,000 and £7,000 means | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
despite a disappointing start, Sian's day has turned out well. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
I'm feeling much happier because the job opportunities are there. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
As far as payroll goes, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
the police is maybe a possibility for the future. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
Sian's enthusiasm for the dream has been reignited, but has the day | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
been enough to convince Josh to turn his back on the family farm? | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
So, we've learned loads today | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
and based on everything we have found out, we're going to vote. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
I thought you were going to say UK. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Yes, I chose New Zealand because, you know, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
I've really wanted to do tree surgery for a while, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
and obviously, it's less hours and more pay than what I'm on now, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
so it seems like a win-win situation. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Yeah, more pay and more family time. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
-Which is what we wanted, isn't it? -Yeah. -So, New Zealand. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
With a vote for New Zealand from Josh, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
it looks like the couple's day checking out work prospects | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
could have brought Sian's dream back on track. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
A move for her has always been about spending more time together | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
so will a rare family day out spent sampling the Kiwi lifestyle | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
win Josh around once more? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
Shall we try and find some? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
Back in the UK, the family enjoy roaming the countryside, so today, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
they take Cai to Kiwi Valley Farm, outside Auckland. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Cai's no stranger to farmyards, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
but the chance to hang out with Mum and Dad is a real treat. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
Do you like him? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
And fulfilling her desire for Cai to see more of his dad, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
the day's a hit with Sian, too. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Today has definitely reinforced the dream. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
It's just great for Cai to have both of us and to be able to | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
go from one to the other, rather than just me showing him things, you know? | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
Spending time together with his own family, though, has reminded Josh | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
more days like this would mean seeing less of loved ones back home. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
Being here does make me realise how much family and friends mean to me. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
The most important thing is, you know, Cai, I think. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
It will be a shame, really, for Cai to grow up without his grandparents. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
Sian is aware her dream presents Josh with a dilemma. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
But seeing how happy Cai is with both his parents, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
she is still determined moving would be for the best. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
Yeah, I guess I do feel guilty, because I think he feels torn | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
and he knows I'd like to move | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
but he knows he'd like to stay with his friends and family. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
I think Sian wants to move to New Zealand more than me. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
I think I've got a lot more stuff holding me back. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Sian and Josh could yet be at loggerheads | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
come the end of the week, but has their family day out been enough to | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
bring Josh one step closer to a move down under? | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
So, we've really enjoyed spending family time together today. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
And based on lifestyle, we're going to vote. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
New Zealand. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
New Zealand. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
I'm glad you said that. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:10 | |
I've realised now I've been spending a lot more quality time with Cai | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
and, d'you know, obviously, if I move, I will be working, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
but we figured out the hours will be less than what I'm working back at | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
-Wales, so, yeah, I'll hopefully have more time to spend with Cai. -Yeah. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
When it came to lifestyle, Josh put his own family first. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
But Sian knows there's a long way to go yet | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
if he's to be persuaded the family's future lies down under. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
If she succeeds, the couple would rely on proceeds from the sale | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
of their home to fund the move. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
They believe it's worth around £80,000. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
To see if they're right, we sent round two estate agents. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
Oh, nice plain decor. Good for marketing. Nice room. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
Very, very large kitchen. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
Dining area, with a very big table. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Modern units. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
-Modern units! -I painted them! | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
Very nice conservatory. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
With access out onto the garden. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
What a great sized double room. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
Perfect also to get a cot in. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
Ideal having the mirrored wardrobes. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
Really nice sized second bedroom. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Obviously, a little child's room. A little boy. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
In the current market, I'd value it at between £85,000 and £90,000. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:37 | |
-For a quick sale, about £80,000. -Yeah. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
The valuation on this property for the open market would be £84,950. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:46 | |
Or a quick sale figure of £79,950. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
-OK. -Happy with that? -Yeah. Yeah. I'm chuffed with that. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:57 | |
I thought they were 80, tops. I was... | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
I thought if we have 80, it is a good sale. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
While Cai sleeps, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
the couple move on to see how their finances would stack up in Auckland. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
If this is positive, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
then Josh will have a hard time trying to fight his little battle. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
So, you know, I cross my fingers that it is positive. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
We've provided them with a comparison of costs, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
starting with the weekly food shop. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
-Everything is a bit dearer. -Blueberries at a pound. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
-Cherry tomatoes are a pound. Green beans are £1.15. It adds up. -Yeah. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
And it's not just fruit and veg that cost more. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
Chicken and salmon are over £3 dearer. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
There's no two ways about it, I'm not losing chicken. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -That's number one. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
The couple do the sums to find out | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
what it means for their overall bill. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
£47.91. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Worse off. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
-Every week. -Every week, yeah. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
It's nearly £200 more each month. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
And that's before they've looked at the bigger bills. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
Sian and Josh base their figures on the first property they viewed. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
So, oil in the UK, we pay £50. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
And in New Zealand, we'd pay nothing, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
because we wouldn't have central heating, would we? | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
But childcare is a bit dearer. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
It's £48.41 dearer. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
But that is because in the UK, we only have three days | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
because he's with your mother. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
-Transport costs... -We would be worse off by £183.34. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
-This isn't looking very good, is it? -No. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
A tot up of the figures reveals | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
the couple would spend £561 more a month in New Zealand. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
It could spell disaster for Sian's chances of keeping Josh onside, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
unless their salaries could make up the difference. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
So, in the UK, our total income is £2,426.26. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:52 | |
New Zealand would be... | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
£2,959. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
They'd earn more, but not enough to cover their increase in spending. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
-We are worse off by... BOTH: -..£28.58. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
A month. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
-It's not a major difference. -No, but I am shocked. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I honestly thought we'd be better off, money-wise, in New Zealand. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
Sian's determined to fight for her dream, though, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
believing £30 a month is a price worth paying. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Do you think £6.60 a week is worth | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
having more quality time with Cai and me? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
Yeah, obviously. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:28 | |
So... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that needs to fall into place. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
But if things fall into place, it's £6.60 a week you are paying to | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
have sun for ten months a year, for a bigger house, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:44 | |
for, you know, better job prospects, and for quality time with Cai. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:50 | |
Which is what we want. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
I want to do it. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
I want to move. But I don't think you're going to let me. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
It'll take more than being a few pounds in the red to put Sian off. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
But will the lifestyle they could have in New Zealand be enough | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
to reconcile Josh with the figures? | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
-UK. -New Zealand. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
I think Sian is more of a risk taker than I am. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
The reality check is slightly negative | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
but it's nothing, really, compared to, you know, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
all the things that outweigh that. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
With unfavourable finances making Josh vote for the UK, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
it looks like Sian's dream could be knocked for six. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
And there is one more obstacle to overcome. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
With Josh already concerned about taking Cai | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
away from family in Wales, could watching messages from loved ones | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
back home be the final nail in the coffin? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
-Are you looking forward to seeing Tadcu? -Yeah! | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
-And Mamgu, on the telly? -Yeah. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
I think watching the messages will make us | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
see what we are leaving behind. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
-Shall we take a look to see what they say? -Yeah. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Hi, Sian. Hi, Josh. Hi, Cai. Hope you're having a fantastic week. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
-BOTH: -Hello, Sian, Josh and Cai! | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
-Hiya, Josh... -Hiya, Cai, Josh and Sian. -..Sian, Cai. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
As a family, they're great together. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:20 | |
They pull together like a team. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
They just bounce off each other, really, don't they? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
They balance each other well. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Josh has his ideas | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
and Sian calms him down. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
-Sian's very different to the both of us, isn't she? -Yeah. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
Yeah, she's the confident one who likes to do, like, everything. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
Cai is just... He's one of the gang. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
There is a gang of little boys and he fits right in. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
I know he's my grandson, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
but he's one of the nicest little kids I've ever come across. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
It'll start me off, now! | 0:37:50 | 0:37:51 | |
Josh, I think, he's Sian's rock, isn't he? | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
You can see it in his eyes, what he thinks of Cai. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
-It glows out of him. It has made him. -Yeah. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
If they are to go, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
this is the opportunity and this is the best time. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
And, obviously, we're going to miss her, because we always... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
-the three of us do things together... -Yeah. -..all the time. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
So we will really miss her, but we want the best for her at the same time. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
It would be really odd. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
-Like a jigsaw with a missing piece, in a way. -Yeah. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
I think Aaron will miss Cai as a friend, days out, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
and I'll just miss the help and support from my friend Sian. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
Well, you know, because we are so close, it's going to | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
make the gap even worse. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
And he'll be just as bad, I can tell. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
We'll just have to go out and see them. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Yeah, but you can't go out every... | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
We will really miss you if you do go, but I know that you all know | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
what you want to do and I would totally respect that | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
and I hope that you just make the right decision, really. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
I think if you decide to go to New Zealand, we'd really miss you, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
obviously. We'd miss you like crazy. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
But if you think it's the right decision for you, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
then we fully support you. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
We will miss you, as you know. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
But we can come out and see you at some point. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
Well, yeah, we just wish you all the best. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
Say, "Don't go, Cai". | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Don't go, Cai. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
Yeah. It was like a mix of emotions, wasn't it? | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
It's made me realise that I do need to think more | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
about leaving them behind. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:36 | |
You know, Cai's going to be... no family at all over here. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
Although we might be giving him a better future | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
but we're taking away his past, if that makes sense. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
I don't think it's as easy as you were going to think it is, to leave them. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Well, that's the hardest part. You know, that's the only thing. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Their week in New Zealand has shown Sian | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
and Josh the opportunities the country offers could mean | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
more quality time together with their son. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
But any move would come at a cost, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
losing the family support they enjoy at home. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
As their final decision approaches, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
will the couple decide that's a price worth paying, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
to achieve the family life Sian so desperately wants? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
Things got off to a bumpy start when the couple | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
realised their property budget wouldn't go far in Auckland. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
But everything that followed has left the couple's opinions divided. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
Now that we've been here, and we've seen what we've seen, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
I definitely have more of a hunger for New Zealand. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
I think I am feeling mixed emotions in that, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
d'you know, I thought we would have been better off, on the whole, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
in New Zealand, on the salary and stuff, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
but it turns out we would be better in the UK. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
Not prepared to sacrifice her dream for the sake of a few pounds, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Sian's determined to keep focused on what | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
she originally wanted from the country. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
The main thing for me is that Josh and Cai gets to bond | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
and get to, you know, better their relationship. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
But for Josh, the advantage of more time with his son has left him torn. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
It has created conflict, in myself, type thing. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
One half saying we just stay in Wales, and the other half saying, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
you know, flee the nest, you know. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
The world's... You know, the world's a small place. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
With time running out, Sian knows Josh's biggest stumbling block | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
will be taking Cai away from grandparents in Wales. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I don't know what he's going to decide because, you know, New Zealand | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
is absolutely fantastic, and we've been able to see that this week. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
But obviously, our friends and family are amazing | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
and it's a hell of a thing to leave behind. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
You want to see into the future what it will be like on both sides | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
but obviously you can't do that. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
But, yeah, it is, it is going to be a tough decision. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
The week's been an enlightening experience for the couple. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Now it is time to find out | 0:41:59 | 0:42:00 | |
if it's been enough to convince Josh to buy into Sian's dream | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
of more family time together on the other side of the world. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
We've had a really amazing family-oriented week. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
And based on everything we've found out this week, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
we are going to do our final vote. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
-New Zealand. -New Zealand. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
No way! | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
It is an awesome place and we could do getting more time as a family. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
So clearly, a future... | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
We will take the plunge. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
I genuinely thought that you liked New Zealand | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
but I didn't think you could leave your roots and your family. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
So, I am overwhelmed that you chose New Zealand | 0:42:48 | 0:42:54 | |
and extremely excited. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
With their week in New Zealand showing Josh just what his family | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
could gain from a move, it looks like the couple could be well on | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
their way to making a new life for themselves | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
on the other side of the world. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
We wish them all the best of luck for the future. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 |