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You have a pleasant home in the city, a loving partner

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and a comfortable lifestyle,

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but a nagging sense there's got to be more to life.

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Could you risk everything you had at home to follow a gut feeling

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and move to the other side of the world?

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Emma Turley is chasing her dream lifestyle

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and believes the answer lies in New Zealand.

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I'm expecting lots of gorgeous beaches, lots of wildlife,

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-lots of nature.

-Emma gets a bit tied up in the dream.

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I think, you know, she can run with it a little bit.

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But when a trial week down under fails to match expectations...

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Not stolen your heart yet?

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No, I just think it feels a bit like a cell.

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Money doesn't make you happy

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but it makes you more comfortable whilst you're trying to be happy.

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Will she and partner Ceri be forced to admit her new life

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is little more than a pipedream?

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I think I was more certain of what I wanted

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when I stepped off the plane than I do now.

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I thought I might have a bit more clarity now, but I don't.

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No.

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Boasting spectacular scenery that includes

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over 9,000 miles of beaches,

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New Zealand has a rich history

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reflecting a unique mix of Maori and European culture.

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Recognised as one of the most desirable places

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in the world to live, the country gains one new resident

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every 14 minutes and is currently home to

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over 200,000 British citizens.

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Teenage sweethearts Emma and Ceri have overcome tough times

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to achieve the life they have in the UK.

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But Emma's convinced their life could be better in New Zealand,

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even though she's never been.

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Having persuaded partner Ceri to share her vision of their future,

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the couple now have just one week to discover

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if the country can live up to Emma's high expectations

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or if sticking with life in the UK could be a better bet.

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Emma and Ceri's trial week takes off with 25 hours in the air,

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flying from London to New Zealand and for Ceri,

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finally touching down in Auckland is a huge relief.

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Not a great flyer, so, yeah, glad to have my feet on the ground.

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Some tears on the way but, yeah, glad to be here now.

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Yeah, taking off and landing we get tears and panics, don't we?

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Yeah, so three takeoffs and landings wasn't good.

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With their journey behind them, the anticipation's building

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as the couple have their feet on New Zealand soil for the first time.

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-I feel excited...

-Yeah.

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..apprehensive,

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a bit scared that we've come all this way

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and what if it's not what we hope it's going to be?

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Emma's slightly more relaxed.

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Now I'm here, it feels ace.

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So, that's a really good sign.

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But she's aware the week ahead is no holiday.

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Our whole future kind of hangs on what's going to happen

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and whether or not we decide to make that final move.

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It really all does hang on how this week goes.

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As they head out into Auckland, both girls are anxious to

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discover if New Zealand really will live up to Emma's expectations.

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Back in the UK, Emma Turley and Ceri Wilson live

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in a modern apartment in Manchester city centre.

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We've worked hard and we've got a really nice lifestyle now,

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haven't we? Of course, everything here is on our doorstep, literally.

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The couple are inseparable.

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We've got a relationship where we're not just partners, we're soulmates.

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-Yeah.

-We're really close, we're best friends.

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Emma and Ceri met at high school at the Welsh town where,

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from a young age, Emma was raised by her nan.

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I'm very, very close to my nan.

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I lived with her from the age of about four.

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My mum worked silly shifts, so it was much less disruptive for me

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to have somebody there who could take me to school

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and I wouldn't have to get up too early and that sort of thing.

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Emma's nan was to become a lifeline to Ceri, too,

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when hard times at home forced her to move out when she was just 13.

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Ceri had a...quite a rough childhood.

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Things were quite difficult for her.

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Emma's grandmother took me in, cared for me,

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she became like my mum, she did everything for me.

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She was really nice, took me under her wing.

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Welcoming Ceri into her home, Emma's nan showed her what it

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was like to be part of a loving family,

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and that support literally changed Ceri's life.

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I went to high school and I had dyslexia.

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-My reading was terrible, I couldn't read or anything.

-Very well.

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She basically taught me how to read and, when I moved in,

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I didn't have manners, and things like that.

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She taught me simple things like manners.

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She took me in and did everything, didn't she?

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So, she was very, very good.

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I mean, so encouraging, so supportive.

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The girls went on to study at university

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and made their own home in Manchester.

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But despite having good jobs and enjoying city living,

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over the last three years Emma's developed an all-encompassing

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belief a better life could lie somewhere else.

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I just feel like I'm at a bit of a crossroads in my life.

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I feel like something needs to change,

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I don't want to carry on like this for the next 35 years.

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I've always had a desire to travel,

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a desire to live somewhere else,

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to experience new cultures.

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She's never been, but Emma thinks New Zealand can offer

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the couple that little bit more.

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And, slowly but surely, she's convinced Ceri.

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I think she has sold me the dream.

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The longer we've been together,

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the more we kind of realised that it is something we

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would love to do together.

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But while Ceri's expectations from New Zealand are grounded...

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It's not so much that we don't like Manchester.

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We're looking for Manchester with added bonuses,

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so we can have so much more outdoor life

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as opposed to spending so much time indoors.

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Emma believes what lies down under is utopia.

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I'm expecting a cool, vibrant city,

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a very diverse culture,

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lots of gorgeous beaches,

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lots of wildlife, lots of nature.

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So, I've got quite high expectations.

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The more practical of the pair, Ceri's worried the reality

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of life in New Zealand may not match the perfect picture Emma's built up.

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Emma gets a bit tied up in the dream.

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I think, she can run with it a little but, so I do think

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I have to pull her back in a bit and say, "Can we afford the house?

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"Can we afford to buy the food?

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"Is it a realistic dream?"

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While Emma's biggest concern is the thought of leaving her beloved nan.

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Cos she's done so much for us,

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I just think it would be...

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I think you'd carry a guilt, wouldn't you?

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I'd feel very guilty, yeah,

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that I wasn't there for her if she needed something.

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I'd find that really hard.

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-And don't you let anything stop you going.

-Oh...

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-If you like it, you go.

-Yes!

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-Yes.

-Yeah.

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If New Zealand lives up to Emma's expectations,

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it'll mean breaking the close bond with her nan

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that's existed since childhood.

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Even thinking about having that feeling of...

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that gut wrenchingly difficult choice,

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even just thinking about that's horrible,

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so I don't even know how it would actually feel.

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Whether or not the grass will be greener on the other side

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of the world for the pair is unknown,

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but they've both decided now is the time to find out.

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I don't want to get to, like, 40 or 50 and be saying,

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-"I wish we'd gone, I wish we'd have tried".

-Yeah, definitely.

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I'd rather be at 50 and say, "Well, we tried it. It didn't work out..."

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-Or, "We tried it and it did work out and it's amazing!"

-Yeah.

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To see if New Zealand really can offer the couple

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the lifestyle they believe, Emma and Ceri are

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visiting Auckland, home to over half of all UK emigrants in the country.

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Their base for the week is a two-bedroom apartment

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slap bang in the city centre.

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Very, erm...centrally located, isn't it?

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Emma and Ceri are both keen to remain city-dwellers

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so this should be the perfect base.

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Oh, it's not what you expect, is it?

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-Wow.

-Big window.

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-It's like a New York loft, isn't it?

-Wow.

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Then we've got...kitchen.

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-That's nice, isn't it?

-Nice red theme.

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Emma's excited by the cityscape outside.

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Oh, you can see the harbour. Gorgeous, isn't it?

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But inside goes down well, too.

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-It's quite a nice size.

-It's big enough for us though, isn't it?

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I think so, yeah.

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But as the couple settle in, the differences over what

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they'll need to have addressed in the coming week become clear.

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I think my main worries are that we've come all this way

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and it might not be

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what we expect it to be.

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I mean, what I've seen so far, it looks amazing,

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but we've not been out there and spent a day living it yet.

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For Ceri, it's all about facts and figures

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and making 100% certain that things can work out for us.

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Whereas, for me,

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it's definitely more the emotional ties that I've got

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to the UK and the thought of leaving everybody

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there is quite difficult.

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Ceri senses Emma's already wavering at the thought

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of being separated from her nan.

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It's taken a lot out of us, the long journey,

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so it's whether it, you know, she's...it's sunk in that

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probably her grandmother couldn't make the long journey.

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So, I think that's...

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that's weighing on her mind at the moment.

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The week ahead will prove or destroy the couple's hopes

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that New Zealand's where the future lies.

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It is do or die, you know.

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Do we come out and move to Auckland?

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It's all nice sitting at home in rainy Manchester thinking,

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"Oh, wouldn't it be nice to go and live somewhere else?"

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But, actually, it has to work for us both.

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Home for Emma and Ceri in the UK is a modern two-bedroom apartment

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by the canal in Manchester city centre.

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We really like our house, we like what it looks like,

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we like where it is. So, actually, it's the perfect house for us.

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So, happy with their current home,

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what's on their wish list for a property down under?

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In New Zealand we'd be looking for a flat of a similar sort of size...

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-Yeah, city centre location...

-City centre.

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We'd want something of an equal standard, I think.

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That's really important, I wouldn't want to move somewhere

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that wasn't as nice as what we've already got.

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Emma and Ceri's property search is concentrated in central Auckland.

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They've a maximum budget of £165,000 to spend,

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and with the city recently ranked seventh in a global survey

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of the most expensive places to live,

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they could need every penny.

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To find out what their money could buy,

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we'll show them three properties - two on budget and a third

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that could be their dream home.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out what it's worth.

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The first property of the day

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is close to the couple's accommodation in the city centre.

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With museums, shopping and nightlife all on the doorstep,

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it should give them the city living they love.

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But will this two-bedroom apartment come up to scratch?

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-It's open to the elements, that's a bit strange.

-Oh, this bit's outside?

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Yeah, it's outside. It's quite nice though, isn't it?

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-I like the fact it's high, it's a high floor.

-It is a high floor.

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Six floors up might not suit everyone,

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but Emma and Ceri seem happy.

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A bit like a prison?

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No.

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OK, then.

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-Nice long corridor.

-Yeah.

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So, this is the main room.

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-Well, it's nice and bright, isn't it?

-It may be bright, but...

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-It's a bit small.

-It is a bit smaller than what we've got.

-Do you think?

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The actual living space.

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At best, it's bijou, though this apartment does come with a view.

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Wow, it is amazing.

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It's nice to have some outside space, isn't it?

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-It is, it's nice looking out over the water, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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And out over the hills.

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But Emma's more concerned with how things sound.

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I guess it's quite noisy, as well, out here.

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Yeah, there is a bit of road noise. You are overlooking the road.

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-A bit?! There's quite a lot of road noise.

-There is a bit, yeah.

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Noisy and tiny.

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This apartment's not a patch on the girls' house back home.

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-Kitchen...

-It is a bit small.

-It's very small.

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You'd struggle to cook on that, you would.

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I mean, there'd be a way round,

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but you'd have to think about it, wouldn't we, and plan?

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But no matter what furniture you put in,

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-you can't make the room bigger.

-No, no.

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I think that's the problem I've got with it, it's too small.

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A look round the master bedroom proves size isn't the only issue.

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-That's quite strange with the glass...

-It is.

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..through to the living room.

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You'd need some sort of a blind or something on there, wouldn't you?

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-If you had friends staying.

-Yeah.

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Or like the light in the morning would wake you up as well,

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-wouldn't it?

-I just think it feels a bit like a cell.

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You're overlooked and...

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Just enclosed, it feels,

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-and like, perhaps the colour doesn't help, actually.

-No.

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And discovering a bathroom barely big enough for a bar of soap

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-is the final straw.

-Right.

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-Small.

-Yeah.

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-Where would you put anything?

-That's it.

-You just wouldn't, would you?

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-There's just no room.

-It feels a bit like student accommodation,

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-doesn't it?

-Yeah.

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It's far from the apartment of Emma and Ceri's dreams,

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but even so, is it within reach of the couple's £165,000 budget?

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How much do you think?

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I don't know. I think it might be the top end of our budget.

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I hope not, I don't think it's that much.

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I'd say closer to

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maybe £140,000?

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Only one way to find out.

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-Well, shall we have a look?

-Yeah, go on, then.

-OK.

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BOTH: £149,000.

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-So, kind of middle...

-So, you were closer.

-..middle of our budget.

-Hmm.

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-I would not pay that amount of money for this.

-No.

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The price does worry me a little bit,

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if that's the price for something of this size...

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Yeah, it's the size issue, isn't it?

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It's under budget but this apartment's cost has shocked

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both Emma and Ceri.

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Will the next apartment offer a bigger bang for their buck?

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With plenty of supermarkets, restaurants

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and entertainment options,

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Auckland's city centre is a popular base for young professionals.

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Emma and Ceri could fit right in,

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but only if they can foot the bill.

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-It's this one, then.

-Looks nice, doesn't it?

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-Yeah, quite interesting shape.

-It is.

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Appearances from street level are good,

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but will this apartment have more space than the last?

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This is nice.

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Yeah, this is more like what we'd want, isn't it?

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It's bigger, but not by much.

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But I just think that the living space is still small...

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-It is small...

-..compared to what we've got.

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..but it's a bit more doable.

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And there's a distinct shortage of storage.

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I still think the kitchen space is quite small, there's no worktop,

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-really, is there?

-No, that's the problem.

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It's just literally a sink and your cooker, there's no...

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You've got a dishwasher, which is good.

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Yeah, there is space for a dishwasher which is good. But...

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But it's things like kitchen cupboards, isn't it?

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Yeah, it's really lacking cupboards.

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-Where would you keep your food?

-Yeah.

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On the plus side, the balcony is a decent size.

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-This is better, isn't it? This balcony.

-Yeah, it's much nicer.

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I mean, it's quite private.

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Yeah, it's a much more usable space, isn't it?

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Yeah, you're not overlooked.

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No, I don't mind this one, I think it's quite nice.

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-It's much, much quieter.

-It is a lot quieter.

-It's nice, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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For a while, the enthusiasm continues indoors.

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-OK.

-Now we've got a bedroom.

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-OK.

-Well, this isn't too bad.

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It's nicer with the window in the corner, and fitted wardrobes,

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that's more like what we've got at home, isn't it?

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Oh, yeah, fitted wardrobes. That's much better, isn't it?

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-But...

-It's not stolen your heart yet?

-No, it hasn't.

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I think it's more liveable, we could live here.

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You know, it's more likely we could live here, isn't it?

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Hmm, I don't know if I could.

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A bathroom with standing room only is far from a perfect

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-fit for the pair.

-Right.

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-It's a shower, no bath, very small...

-Right.

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-..sort of cubicle, isn't it?

-So, again, where would we put

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everything? I mean, think of all the hair products you've got,

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-where would they all go? Simple things like that.

-Hmm.

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-It's a bit worrying.

-Hmm.

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And subjecting the decor to scrutiny means more disappointment.

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The finish isn't as good here, is it?

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It's not as high spec as what we've got.

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-Considering our budget...

-It's quite worrying, isn't it?

-Mm.

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This apartment's been another letdown.

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Are Emma and Ceri expecting too much for their money?

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Their budget is £165,000.

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So, what do you think the price will be? It's going to be more expensive.

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I think it's probably about

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£155,000?

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-I think about 160, 165.

-Really?

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-So, top end?

-Top end, that price.

-Hmm.

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-166...

-Thousand pounds. I think that seems very expensive.

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-It's really disappointing.

-It is a bit disappointing.

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Really disappointing.

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I really thought we'd get more.

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With properties proving unappealing,

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the girls are beginning to realise the picture perfect

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homes Emma's dreamt of may be out of their reach.

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But they're not defeated yet.

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We found what could be the girls' dream home in the inner-city

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suburb of Ponsonby.

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Previously rundown, it's now up and coming with fashionable

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restaurants, funky shops and apartments with plenty of character.

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Property here could bring better value for money.

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-It's nice, isn't it?

-It's very nice, yeah.

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-The postboxes are good, it's nice and stylish.

-Yeah.

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Hopefully the two-bedroom apartment will be desirable, too.

0:17:100:17:14

-That's very fancy.

-Very cool, yeah. It's lovely.

0:17:140:17:16

-Oh, it's nice in here, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-It's nice.

-This is more like it.

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It's bigger than the last two

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and the modern furnishings are more to their taste.

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-Good finish.

-It is.

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-It's much nicer, isn't it?

-It is, really nice actually.

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I think it's... Yeah, and there's workspace,

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-you know, to cook and make things.

-Yeah.

0:17:340:17:36

-Nice dining table.

-Yeah, there's plenty of room, isn't there?

-Yeah.

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I mean, we probably wouldn't even want a table that big.

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There's also a small balcony but, overlooking a motorway,

0:17:420:17:45

-it's probably not a major selling point.

-Oh, it is...

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-It is quite noisy, isn't it?

-Yeah, very loud, yeah.

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And not a particularly usable space, is it?

0:17:520:17:54

-You couldn't really do anything on here.

-No, no.

-But it is loud.

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If you wanted the doors open, if you were sat in here, like we have at

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home, our doors open when it's warm,

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-it would be very loud, wouldn't it?

-Very loud.

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Unlike their previous viewings,

0:18:070:18:08

this apartment's a duplex which definitely means more space.

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Like a little mezzanine level.

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That's quite nice.

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So, this you could use like a little living room, couldn't you?

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You could and just have downstairs as a dining room.

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This apartment is more what I was expecting, really.

0:18:200:18:24

-About time.

-The finish is a lot better here,

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it's much more high spec,

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it's generally just a lot nicer.

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And sweeping views of the city don't go unnoticed either.

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I mean, you have got, like, panoramic city views, haven't you?

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-It's like a photograph.

-Yeah.

-It's really pretty.

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Finally, Emma and Ceri have found a place they can call home.

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But with a maximum budget of £165,000 to spend,

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will this spacious apartment be out of reach?

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I think it's going to be somewhere around, probably, £200,000.

0:18:510:18:56

-I think it's going to be over 200,000, 210 maybe, even.

-OK.

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Time to look and see.

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-Hmm.

-Shall we have a look?

-No, I don't want to!

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-I don't want to find out.

-It's quite scary.

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Oh... You were closer, £217,000.

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Really disappointed because it's so much money,

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it's a massive amount of money.

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I thought 210,000 was pushing it,

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so £217,000 is a lot over our budget.

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Either the wages have to be a lot more to compensate,

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or we would have to take a big step down in what we'd expect...

0:19:300:19:34

-I'm not... I don't think I'm prepared to do that.

-No.

0:19:340:19:37

Ceri and Emma's day has seen the reality of property prices

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in Auckland hit home.

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Property one was way too small for Emma and the girls were shocked to

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discover that, despite being tiny, it carried a sizeable price tag.

0:19:460:19:49

Property two held more appeal for Ceri,

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but still wasn't spacious enough for Emma.

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And again, the price was more of a shock than a pleasant surprise.

0:19:540:19:58

And although property three held much more appeal,

0:19:580:20:00

discovering it was more than £50,000 over budget brought

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the couple back to earth with a bump.

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After a disappointing day, has the dream already been dented?

0:20:060:20:10

Will the girls choose property at home or away?

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Based on the properties we've seen, our vote goes to...

0:20:130:20:17

BOTH: UK.

0:20:270:20:29

-Yeah, I thought so.

-I'm not surprised.

0:20:290:20:31

-Nothing we've seen compares to what we've got at home.

-No.

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So, a bit heartbreaking. Yeah, it's been an eye-opening day, hasn't it?

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But for all the wrong reasons.

0:20:390:20:41

Emma holds a firm belief she and Ceri could get more

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out of life in New Zealand, but uncovering the astronomical

0:20:530:20:57

cost of Auckland city-centre living has left the couple reeling.

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The ideal apartment would come with a sizeable

0:21:010:21:03

increase in mortgage payments, but if the couple can find

0:21:030:21:06

the right jobs and salaries, the dream may not be over just yet.

0:21:060:21:10

Back in the UK, Emma's a senior psychology lecturer

0:21:170:21:20

at a university in Manchester.

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I really like engaging with the students.

0:21:220:21:25

I really like teaching them, passing that knowledge on.

0:21:250:21:27

You know, trying to instil some sort of passion, I guess,

0:21:270:21:30

that I have for my subject.

0:21:300:21:32

Another bonus with her current job is being

0:21:320:21:33

contracted for a four-day week.

0:21:330:21:35

I get a Tuesday off, which is really nice,

0:21:350:21:38

because I get to do other things outside of work.

0:21:380:21:40

So I think I'm very, very fortunate to be in that situation.

0:21:400:21:44

Ceri works full-time as a university administrator,

0:21:440:21:47

looking after students' welfare.

0:21:470:21:49

I'd quite like to find a similar role to what I'm doing now,

0:21:490:21:51

with a university setting,

0:21:510:21:53

but within a department that has opportunities to progress,

0:21:530:21:56

because I really do love working in the university environment.

0:21:560:21:59

Moving would mean leaving jobs they love.

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I'm not the most motivated person.

0:22:020:22:03

I find myself settling in the job and I'm quite happy to stay there.

0:22:030:22:07

So it is quite a scary idea, to move and start a new job.

0:22:070:22:11

But that's a gamble Emma's willing to take.

0:22:110:22:13

There is a lot at stake. However, I think the risk's worth it.

0:22:130:22:17

I really do.

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After discovering how expensive properties are, Ceri's hoping

0:22:240:22:28

what happens over the next few hours will bring about a better outcome.

0:22:280:22:31

I'm trying to stay positive today.

0:22:310:22:33

I do feel like we've had a big knock yesterday

0:22:330:22:36

and I think we're feeling very downhearted.

0:22:360:22:39

Starting to feel that maybe we've come this way just to go back home.

0:22:390:22:44

And Emma knows exactly what's at stake.

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I think today is make or break. I think even more so after yesterday.

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Because we really need to be able to earn enough to have

0:22:510:22:55

a comfortable lifestyle here.

0:22:550:22:57

Emma believes her PhD will improve her chances of employment.

0:22:570:23:01

To see if she's right, she's visiting the School of Psychology

0:23:010:23:04

at the University of Auckland, where she meets Professor Jenny Dixon.

0:23:040:23:09

In terms of teaching and research,

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how does the work over here compare to the work that I do in the UK?

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We expect staff to be spending about 40% of their time on research,

0:23:150:23:19

40% of time on teaching.

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And the 20% is on administration, service and leadership.

0:23:210:23:25

That sounds really great, because I certainly don't

0:23:250:23:28

spend 40% of my work time, currently, on research.

0:23:280:23:32

So that's really promising.

0:23:320:23:33

A role here could be perfect for Emma,

0:23:330:23:35

but actually securing one could be a different matter.

0:23:350:23:38

I guess the job market here is pretty...

0:23:380:23:42

It's pretty intensive and competitive.

0:23:420:23:44

When I was talking to the staff in the school, they said to me

0:23:440:23:47

there'd only been a handful of vacancies over the last few years.

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So I don't think the prospects are particularly strong.

0:23:510:23:55

Well, that's less encouraging.

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The good news is that, if you are interested in coming to Auckland,

0:23:570:24:00

is that there are other universities in Auckland which also have

0:24:000:24:04

-psychology programmes.

-Right.

0:24:040:24:05

Emma's chances of finding work look far from certain.

0:24:050:24:08

Will Ceri's prospects hold more promise?

0:24:120:24:14

She's visiting Auckland's University Of Technology

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to meet expat and

0:24:180:24:19

Deputy Vice Chancellor, Rob Allen.

0:24:190:24:21

I think the first thing to say is New Zealand isn't in

0:24:210:24:24

recession and the job market, generally, is better than the UK's.

0:24:240:24:28

But certainly at AUT there are always opportunities for people,

0:24:280:24:31

as I found out myself when I got here.

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Thankfully, things do look more encouraging.

0:24:330:24:36

What opportunities are there for career progression

0:24:360:24:38

-within the university?

-Well, we actually encourage people

0:24:380:24:41

to progress. So any administrative staff gets five days'

0:24:410:24:43

professional development leave.

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They get 900 for that professional development as an entitlement

0:24:450:24:49

and, in fact, we actually see that almost as part of your job.

0:24:490:24:53

So, fantastic opportunities.

0:24:530:24:55

Back at the University of Auckland, Emma's keen to hear how

0:24:550:24:58

flexible her hours would be if she were successful in finding work.

0:24:580:25:01

My current contract in the UK is 0.8 full-time equivalent,

0:25:010:25:06

which means I work four days each week.

0:25:060:25:09

Are those types of opportunities available here?

0:25:090:25:12

They are. Most people here work full-time.

0:25:120:25:14

But people can reduce the time they work in negotiation

0:25:140:25:18

with their line manager.

0:25:180:25:19

Forgoing her four-day week could improve Emma's employment prospects.

0:25:190:25:23

But would the salary come up to scratch?

0:25:230:25:25

Well, at this university, senior lecturers start on 97,000

0:25:250:25:30

and the range goes up to 122,000.

0:25:300:25:34

That's a few thousand pounds more than she'd earn full-time in the UK,

0:25:340:25:37

but it wouldn't stretch to affording the apartment of the couple's

0:25:370:25:41

dreams. Could an increase in Ceri's earnings make up the shortfall?

0:25:410:25:44

Well, looking at the experience you've had over the last six years,

0:25:440:25:47

I think you would be sitting in a band somewhere

0:25:470:25:50

between around 45,000-57,000.

0:25:500:25:52

At around £2,000 more than she earns back home,

0:25:520:25:55

that's only a modest increase.

0:25:550:25:58

When the girls are reunited, their disappointment is clear.

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So, how did it go?

0:26:000:26:02

Not as well as I hoped, really.

0:26:030:26:06

Vacancies are very few and far between.

0:26:060:26:08

-OK, that's a bit disappointing.

-Though it's not really what

0:26:080:26:11

I was expecting to hear. And how did you get on?

0:26:110:26:14

-More opportunities for progression...

-Oh, that's good.

0:26:140:26:18

..salaries were very similar to home, which was disappointing.

0:26:180:26:21

-Well, it wouldn't stack up financially, would it?

-No.

0:26:210:26:24

Just two days in,

0:26:240:26:25

and already Emma and Ceri's dream could be on the verge of collapse.

0:26:250:26:29

Will there be any hint of optimism

0:26:290:26:31

when choosing between work in the UK or New Zealand?

0:26:310:26:34

We'll be voting for...

0:26:340:26:35

BOTH: UK.

0:26:450:26:46

-Obviously, yeah.

-I know.

-It's not going well.

-It's not what I wanted

0:26:480:26:52

-to be voting, really.

-No, I really wanted it

0:26:520:26:54

-to be really positive today.

-Especially after yesterday.

0:26:540:26:57

Yeah. I feel like the bubble's been popped.

0:26:570:27:01

With a double whammy of votes for the UK, Emma and Ceri's

0:27:100:27:14

first trip down under isn't going according to plan.

0:27:140:27:18

And the financial reality means their hopes for a new life could

0:27:180:27:21

slowly be retreating.

0:27:210:27:24

Emma's always believed New Zealand could offer a perfect

0:27:240:27:27

balance of city life and outdoor activities,

0:27:270:27:30

so will a day exploring the Kiwi lifestyle see both her and Ceri's

0:27:300:27:35

spark for the country reignited?

0:27:350:27:37

Yet again, they've been cruelly let down, and this time,

0:27:400:27:44

by the weather, as the tail end of a cyclone hits the city.

0:27:440:27:47

With the resulting showers more Mancunian than Kiwi,

0:27:470:27:50

the day starts indoors as Emma and Ceri set off to

0:27:500:27:53

explore Auckland's main art gallery.

0:27:530:27:56

-I like the wood.

-Yeah. All the glass as well.

0:27:570:28:00

-Looks very modern, doesn't it?

-Really nice, really pretty.

0:28:000:28:04

The gallery's the largest art institution in New Zealand,

0:28:040:28:07

with over 15,000 pieces.

0:28:070:28:09

-It's amazing, isn't it?

-It's very cool. Yeah.

0:28:090:28:12

The couple are culture buffs back in Manchester, so historic

0:28:120:28:16

works by Maori and Pacific Island artists catch their eye.

0:28:160:28:19

This one's very interesting.

0:28:190:28:21

This is the arrival of the Maoris in New Zealand.

0:28:210:28:25

-Quite a distressing image.

-It is, it's very dark.

0:28:250:28:30

Just like the sky outside, unfortunately.

0:28:300:28:32

Stunning New Zealand scenery.

0:28:370:28:39

The colour of the water's really nice as well, isn't it?

0:28:390:28:42

It's literally the colour of the water

0:28:420:28:44

that we saw down by the harbour.

0:28:440:28:45

The morning may have been spent indoors, but the gallery was a hit

0:28:450:28:49

and, venturing back outside,

0:28:490:28:50

the girls are thrilled to see an improvement in the weather.

0:28:500:28:53

Hurray, the sun's come out, which is always a bonus.

0:28:550:28:58

Another reason why this isn't like Manchester,

0:28:580:29:01

because the sun rarely comes out there.

0:29:010:29:03

Finally, could it be a sign not to give up on their dream?

0:29:100:29:14

Making the most of the sunshine, the couple meet some very tame

0:29:140:29:17

local wildlife in one of the city's parks.

0:29:170:29:19

It would be nice coming after work, wouldn't it?

0:29:190:29:22

If you had a hard day or something, or you just need to clear your mind.

0:29:220:29:26

I already feel a bit calmer.

0:29:260:29:27

If we fed them, they'd be really fat, wouldn't they?

0:29:270:29:30

We'd be here all the time.

0:29:300:29:31

Moving to the harbour, the afternoon's much more in line

0:29:310:29:34

with the glossy images Emma had conjured up.

0:29:340:29:37

It has reignited my dream, coming here.

0:29:370:29:39

The past couple of days have been quite disappointing

0:29:390:29:42

and quite difficult, and I was really hoping that today

0:29:420:29:45

would be fantastic, and it really has been.

0:29:450:29:48

But the trauma of the previous two days means Ceri's still cautious.

0:29:480:29:52

It's really scary to think that we've made this big commitment,

0:29:520:29:55

coming this week. We've come to the city and really loved the city.

0:29:550:29:59

And maybe now can't afford to live here, which is quite heartbreaking.

0:29:590:30:04

And it's not just financial concerns.

0:30:040:30:06

Ceri believes the reality of being

0:30:060:30:08

so far from home could be a real issue for Emma.

0:30:080:30:11

She's not spoke to her nan all week

0:30:110:30:13

and she normally wouldn't go this long without speaking to her.

0:30:130:30:16

She's already starting to find that a bit strange

0:30:160:30:18

and I think she's starting to feel she's quite far away.

0:30:180:30:21

So I think Emma's...

0:30:210:30:22

I don't know if she's struggling, but I think the realisation of

0:30:220:30:25

how far away from home we are is sinking in.

0:30:250:30:27

An enjoyable day out may have reassured Emma

0:30:270:30:30

a move will be right, but she's also beginning to wrestle

0:30:300:30:33

with the decisions she'll face at the end of the week.

0:30:330:30:35

I feel very, very conflicted about leaving everybody back home.

0:30:350:30:40

I do feel... I'm not sure how I'd do it, if I could do it.

0:30:400:30:44

I'm still not sure.

0:30:440:30:46

The day has shown the girls although they may struggle to

0:30:460:30:49

afford it, life in New Zealand could have its upsides.

0:30:490:30:52

But is that enough for them to choose the lifestyle over the one

0:30:520:30:55

they have at home?

0:30:550:30:56

We've had a lovely day today and based on lifestyle,

0:30:560:30:59

we're going to vote...

0:30:590:31:01

BOTH: New Zealand.

0:31:130:31:15

Yay! I didn't think you would.

0:31:150:31:18

I think it's kind of the reason we wanted to move, isn't it?

0:31:180:31:21

For the outdoor lifestyle. So I think that hasn't changed.

0:31:210:31:24

Yeah, it was just really nice to hang out up there,

0:31:240:31:27

once it had brightened up in the sunshine, feel the sun on my skin.

0:31:270:31:31

-It was nice and warm.

-Yeah.

0:31:310:31:32

After weathering a stormy property search

0:31:420:31:44

and unsettled local job market,

0:31:440:31:46

a touch of sunshine has finally landed a vote for New Zealand.

0:31:460:31:50

A move could still be on the cards for Emma and Ceri,

0:31:500:31:53

as long as the finances add up.

0:31:530:31:55

The first step is getting a good price for their home in the UK.

0:31:550:31:59

They believe it would fetch around £45,000,

0:31:590:32:02

so we've sent round two estate agents

0:32:020:32:04

to see if their valuation's correct.

0:32:040:32:07

-Oh, it's wet. Wet.

-It's weird seeing home.

0:32:070:32:11

Yeah, it's a nice, open-plan living room. Good size.

0:32:110:32:15

-Nice, light and airy.

-That's certainly a bright,

0:32:150:32:18

welcoming entrance.

0:32:180:32:20

Good appointed kitchen. Nice views of the city centre.

0:32:200:32:23

Good-sized bedroom.

0:32:230:32:24

Built-in wardrobes, which is good for storage.

0:32:240:32:27

Another good-sized bedroom.

0:32:270:32:28

Currently set up as an office, nice and bright.

0:32:280:32:31

Nice size paved balcony, with lovely city-centre views.

0:32:310:32:35

It's a lovely bathroom, very stylish.

0:32:350:32:38

Beautifully tiled, beautifully finished, can't fault it in any way.

0:32:380:32:42

-That's nice to hear.

-"Can't fault it."

0:32:420:32:44

I would advise marketing at £168,000.

0:32:440:32:48

If they were looking for a quick sale,

0:32:480:32:49

I would advise

0:32:490:32:52

marketing at 165,000 to get 160,000.

0:32:520:32:55

The current value would fall in the region of £145,000-£150,000.

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If the clients were looking to achieve a quick sale, I would

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probably put the value in the region of £135,000-£145,000.

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That's very different valuations.

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Yeah, that's kind of closer to what I thought.

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Similar to what we paid, really. Hopefully it would be

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somewhere in the middle.

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-And that's not bad, is it, really?

-No.

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The valuations are encouraging.

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To work out exactly how much their dream lifestyle could cost,

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we've compiled a cost of living comparison.

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Let's have a look at the sums.

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The couple start with the weekly grocery shop.

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At first glance, everything's looking more expensive, isn't it?

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The girls are both vegetarian, and that's not playing in their favour.

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£4.18 more expensive just for some frozen broccoli.

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We chuck that into loads of stuff, don't we? What's this?

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Double Gloucester cheese. Crikey! We pay 1.77.

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And it's £9.16.

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The figures aren't looking good.

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-So that gives us a difference of £74.88...

-A week, worse off.

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Just under £300 a month more on food alone would mean a huge

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hole in the couple's finances.

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It's so expensive, the calculator's even given up.

0:34:080:34:10

-Shall we get the tablet and have a look on that?

-Yeah, OK.

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It's not a good omen.

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Basing their calculations on the dream property,

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the girls move on to the bigger outgoings.

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Mortgage in the UK is 450,

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minus the New Zealand cost of a mortgage would be 1,150.49.

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So that's £700.49 worse off.

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Comparing their total spend in New Zealand with the UK,

0:34:340:34:37

-the result is disastrous.

-Which gives us a difference of...

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We'd be £994.73 worse off.

0:34:400:34:45

-That's a lot, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:34:450:34:47

I suppose we need to compare it now with incomings, don't we?

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That's an additional £12,000 of spending every year.

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Could the increased earnings make up the shortfall?

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-So, we'd be £19.82 better off.

-In New Zealand.

-In New Zealand.

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They'd be in the black every month, but only just.

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And that's with Emma working an extra day every week.

0:35:060:35:09

You'd be doing 20% more work and that's not a 20%

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increase in salary, is it?

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But at least it's more positive than I expected.

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Emma's refusing to lose heart in the dream she started,

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but Ceri's simply not buying it.

0:35:200:35:22

You know, moving to the other side of the world just to

0:35:220:35:24

-be £237 better off a year...

-But that's in monetary terms,

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isn't it? What about in experiential terms, in lifestyle terms,

0:35:290:35:33

in happiness terms?

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Money doesn't make you happy,

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but it makes you more comfortable whilst you're trying to be happy.

0:35:360:35:39

Finances were always practical Ceri's biggest concern.

0:35:390:35:42

Based on the day's figures, will they choose life

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in the UK or New Zealand?

0:35:450:35:46

-UK.

-Undecided.

0:35:540:35:56

-Yeah, I thought you'd say that.

-I mean...

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At least it's doable, it's possible still.

0:36:000:36:03

It's not something that is impossible.

0:36:030:36:06

We still can do it, but...

0:36:060:36:07

It means a lot of discussion and a lot of thought about...

0:36:080:36:11

-What's more important.

-Yeah. Exactly.

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Moving to New Zealand may not make them rich, but Emma's

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convinced the couple won't be out of pocket by enough to dent her dream.

0:36:200:36:24

However, she's about to be faced with a dilemma she's been dreading.

0:36:240:36:28

The couple sit down to watch messages from friends

0:36:280:36:30

and relatives at home in the UK.

0:36:300:36:33

I'm feeling quite apprehensive, actually, about seeing friends

0:36:330:36:37

and family and listening to the things that they might say.

0:36:370:36:40

And I'm not quite sure how I'll feel afterwards.

0:36:420:36:45

I think it's going to be quite strange.

0:36:450:36:47

I think it could remind us of what we've got at home,

0:36:470:36:50

what we'd be leaving behind.

0:36:500:36:52

I think it would be really close, with Emma's family.

0:36:520:36:56

And we have really good friends, haven't we?

0:36:560:36:58

So I think it would be really hard to leave them behind, wouldn't it?

0:36:580:37:01

-Hiya. Hiya, Ceri, hi, Emma.

-Hi, Ceri, hi, Emma.

0:37:030:37:07

Hi, Emma and Ceri.

0:37:070:37:09

Hi, Emma and Ceri.

0:37:090:37:11

Hope you're having a good time there in New Zealand.

0:37:110:37:13

They are like... They are soulmates.

0:37:130:37:17

I suppose that's what everybody looks for, you know, in a relationship.

0:37:170:37:21

-Emma's the bossy boots.

-Yes.

0:37:210:37:23

-Am I?

-Ceri's the cook.

0:37:230:37:27

I think Ceri's the homemaker. Definitely.

0:37:270:37:29

-Well, that would be the way to work.

-Emma's just great.

0:37:290:37:33

She's really unique and she's great. She's a great sister.

0:37:330:37:36

Ceri is like a sister.

0:37:360:37:39

I've always known her and, in a way, I have three sisters.

0:37:390:37:42

She's part of the family.

0:37:430:37:45

If she wasn't there, we'd be saying, "Where's Ceri?"

0:37:450:37:48

I, personally, think they should stay.

0:37:480:37:52

Because the lifestyle they've got

0:37:520:37:54

and the friends in Manchester...

0:37:540:37:56

Their life seems to be...

0:37:560:37:59

..good for them at the moment.

0:37:590:38:02

I would hate them to think, "I don't want to go in case it upsets Nan."

0:38:020:38:09

No. Don't think that way, I don't want you to think that way.

0:38:090:38:12

That opportunity is there. Take it.

0:38:130:38:16

Well, they will be greatly missed. But, you know, they're not that far.

0:38:160:38:19

I think it will be good for them,

0:38:190:38:21

but I know that I might be quite sad, I might miss them,

0:38:210:38:24

because we live so close, I get to see her a lot.

0:38:240:38:26

We'd miss them a tremendous amount, really.

0:38:260:38:30

We certainly won't hold them back in any way,

0:38:300:38:33

and so we support them wholeheartedly.

0:38:330:38:36

All right, you two. You know that you're going to be missed,

0:38:360:38:39

and I'm sure that you're going to miss people here.

0:38:390:38:43

But life isn't a rehearsal. Go for it.

0:38:430:38:46

Whilst I'd be incredibly, incredibly sad if you decided to move to

0:38:460:38:50

New Zealand, I know that you'll make the best decision for you

0:38:500:38:54

and that, you know, even if you do move, I can come and visit you.

0:38:540:38:57

-And I look forward to doing that.

-Don't worry about me.

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Or anybody else here.

0:39:000:39:02

We'll be fine and we will come and see you

0:39:020:39:05

if you decide to go to New Zealand.

0:39:050:39:07

OK? Enjoy it.

0:39:070:39:09

-That sounds like a threat, "We WILL come and see you."

-Yeah.

0:39:110:39:15

Oh, that was really nice, wasn't it? You're worse than me.

0:39:150:39:18

I'm always more emotional than you, though, aren't I?

0:39:200:39:23

I knew everyone would be keen for us to go, except my dad.

0:39:230:39:27

Reinforces the fact that I am one of them

0:39:290:39:32

and I think I would be really, really sad to leave them.

0:39:320:39:34

It really would...

0:39:340:39:36

It would be heartbreaking to leave them, wouldn't it?

0:39:360:39:39

I'm feeling very conflicted still.

0:39:390:39:41

-I thought I might have a bit more clarity now, but I don't.

-No.

0:39:410:39:45

Hearing those words from home was a heartfelt

0:39:510:39:54

reminder of the emotional ties the girls have to the UK.

0:39:540:39:58

Combined with the bad news they've been dealt with this week, will it

0:39:580:40:01

mean Emma's dream for a new life down under

0:40:010:40:04

has finally gone up in smoke?

0:40:040:40:06

When Emma arrived in Auckland, it was with high hopes

0:40:120:40:15

the country would offer her and Ceri more than they had at home.

0:40:150:40:19

But just one week later, her confidence has taken a severe knock.

0:40:190:40:23

Obviously there's been a few ups and downs this week

0:40:230:40:25

and things haven't, perhaps, gone as I'd hoped or as I'd expected, really.

0:40:250:40:30

Particularly the cost of property, was absolutely astronomical

0:40:300:40:35

and really, really surprising.

0:40:350:40:37

Ceri's concerns were always about the practicalities of moving

0:40:370:40:40

and she's seen most of her fears confirmed.

0:40:400:40:43

I think I was more certain of what I wanted

0:40:430:40:45

when I stepped off the plane than I do now, so I don't know.

0:40:450:40:48

It's been a bit up and down, emotionally, this week.

0:40:480:40:51

But Emma has retained a glimmer of hope when it comes to what

0:40:510:40:53

New Zealand could offer her and Ceri as a couple.

0:40:530:40:56

The lifestyle here has definitely won me over.

0:40:560:40:59

It's nice to have the option to spend more time outdoors.

0:40:590:41:02

Not necessarily taking part in extreme sports or anything

0:41:020:41:06

like that, but just spending time in the sun.

0:41:060:41:08

Everything now rests on whether the lifestyle Emma and Ceri

0:41:080:41:12

have been seeking is worth gambling what they'd be leaving behind.

0:41:120:41:15

New Zealand is the lifestyle we are looking for and, you know, this

0:41:150:41:18

week has just made us realise it is somewhere we really want to live.

0:41:180:41:22

but...the dilemma also lies in the fact that...

0:41:220:41:25

..is it financially doable?

0:41:250:41:27

I'm finding it very difficult to weigh up the pros and cons

0:41:270:41:30

and be objective.

0:41:300:41:32

I also think that I know which way Ceri's going to vote,

0:41:320:41:36

which obviously makes it more difficult for me.

0:41:360:41:39

This is a massive decision for us, because it's our future,

0:41:390:41:43

it's where we are going to be, you know, maybe six months,

0:41:430:41:46

12 months' time.

0:41:460:41:48

Yeah, it is a really big decision

0:41:480:41:50

and it will be interesting to see what decision Emma makes.

0:41:500:41:53

So, will the girls risk everything or play safe

0:41:530:41:56

when it comes to deciding where to call home?

0:41:560:41:59

Based on everything we've seen and done during the trial week,

0:41:590:42:03

our final vote goes to...

0:42:030:42:05

-UK.

-Undecided.

-What?! What?!

0:42:200:42:25

-You're undecided?

-Yeah.

0:42:250:42:27

Because the lifestyle is still what we want,

0:42:270:42:30

but the money doesn't add up, so...

0:42:300:42:33

-Yeah.

-It was a hard decision. It was.

0:42:330:42:36

But in the end, for me, it was about...

0:42:360:42:39

We've already got a really, really great life at home.

0:42:390:42:41

We've got really good friends, we've got a lovely family.

0:42:410:42:44

We're really lucky to have what we've got at home

0:42:440:42:47

and I don't think we could have that here, or anything close, really.

0:42:470:42:51

Emma and Ceri's week in New Zealand has

0:42:590:43:01

well and truly removed any rose-tinted glasses

0:43:010:43:05

and has shown them that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere.

0:43:050:43:09

It looks like they won't be giving up on their life in the UK

0:43:090:43:12

any time soon, but we wish them a long and happy future together,

0:43:120:43:17

wherever they call home.

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