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PEOPLE CHATTER

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ELEGANT, DREAMY JAZZ PLAYS

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In 1935, Ed Murrow began his career with CBS.

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When World War II broke out, it was his voice

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that brought the Battle of Britain home to us

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through his This Is London radio series.

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He started with us all, many of us here tonight,

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when television was in its infancy,

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with the news documentary show See It Now.

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He threw stones at giants.

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Segregation, exploitation of migrant workers,

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apartheid, J Edgar Hoover,

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not the least of which,

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his historical fight with Senator McCarthy.

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He is the host of our enormously popular show Person To Person.

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And tonight,

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he is here with his son Casey, wife Janet,

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and all of you who he's worked with, inspired,

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lectured and taught.

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Ladies and gentlemen,

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the Radio-Television News Directors

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Association & Foundation welcomes

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Mr Edward R Murrow.

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APPLAUSE

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This might just do nobody any good.

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At the end of this discourse,

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a few people may accuse this reporter

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of fouling his own comfortable nest,

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and your organisation may be accused

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of having given hospitality

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to heretical and even dangerous ideas.

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But the elaborate structure of networks,

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advertising agencies and sponsors

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will not be shaken or altered.

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It is my desire, if not my duty,

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to try to talk to you journeymen with some candour

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about what is happening to radio and television.

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And if what I say is responsible,

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I alone am responsible for the saying of it.

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Our history will be what we make of it.

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And if there are any historians about 50 or 100 years from now,

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and there should be preserved the kinescopes

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of one week of all three networks,

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they will there find,

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recorded in black and white and in colour,

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evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation

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from the realities of the world in which we live.

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We are currently wealthy, fat, comfortable and complacent.

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We have a built-in allergy

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to unpleasant or disturbing information.

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Our mass media reflect this.

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But unless we get up off our fat surpluses

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and recognise that television in the main

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is being used to distract, delude, amuse and insulate us,

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then television and those who finance it,

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those who look at it and those who work at it,

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may see a totally different picture too late.

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MUSIC: "TV Is The Thing This Year" by Dianne Reeves

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# If you wanna have fun come home with me

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# You can stay all night and play with my TV

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# TV is the thing this year

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# TV is the thing this year

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# Radio was great but it's out-of-date

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# TV is the thing this year

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# Last night I was watchin' ol' Tom Mix

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# My TV broke I was in a fix

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# I got on the phone I called my man

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# Said, "Get here, Daddy as fast as you can

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# TV is the thing this year

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# TV is the thing this year

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# Radio was great but it's out-of-date

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# TV is the thing this year. #

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Up until a year ago... - Millie.

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..he was typing with one finger.

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Millie, just the person I wanted to see. Come here.

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# Yeah TV is the thing this year... #

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This needs to go to the top of the Roy Campanella piece.

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Gimme about a half an hour. Half an hour?

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No, I need it quicker than that. Can I get a cup of coffee first?

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Please. Come on. Oh, get me a cup of coffee.

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Mornin', Johnny.

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Oh, m... I have some new notes

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that go with the Tito footage for Fred.

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- Fred's not in for about an hour. - I already put 'em on his desk.

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Can you just make sure that... he doesn't look at the film

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until he reads the notes? Thank you.

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Hey, Joe, Shirley.

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- Hey. - John.

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What's goin' on in here?

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JOE: What do you mean?

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Two attractive people alone in the copy room.

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Don't tell Paley, he'll fire me. Both of us, Shirley.

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We'll see. Rules are made to be broken.

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You can afford to say that. JOHN LAUGHS

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QUIETLY: Let me see this.

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It's simply a loyalty oath. To CBS?

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And to America.

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You promise to be a loyal American?

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All of the reporters have signed this.

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Who are you promising this to? CBS, Paley?

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Fred signed it. Murrow signed it.

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Murrow signed it. Murrow signed it? Yeah.

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"Are you now or have you ever been...?"

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I thought it was a joke, but there's a lot of pressure.

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"...that appear on the Attorney General's list

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of subversive groups"? I don't know.

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Let's think. What is it really saying?

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Is it a civil-liberties issue or censorship?

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I'm simply stating to CBS that I'm not a communist.

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Murrow signed this? Yeah. And Fred and Stanton.

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Well, maybe you should talk to Murrow.

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Maybe I should sign it.

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If you...if you don't sign this, are you and I a target?

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If I don't sign it, they'll fire me.

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Sign it.

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Finally, we can tell everyone the truth.

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KEEFE (ON TV): If I could express it

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in what's in my heart right now,

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I'd do it in the terms of the poet who once said:

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"Ah, tis but a dainty flower I bring to you

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"yes, tis but a violet glistening with dew

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"but still in its heart there lie beauties concealed

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"so in our heart

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"our love for you

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"lies unrevealed".

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You know, I used to...

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..pride myself on the idea that I was a bit...

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tough.

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Especially over the past...

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18 or 19 months, when we've been kicked around

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and bullwhipped and damned.

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I didn't think that...

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..I could be touched very deeply...

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FRIENDLY: OK, that's enough. That's enough, Leo.

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How long is the piece? What's it at now, Millie?

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It's about four minutes now, but we can cut it down.

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PALMER: It can't stand alone,

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but it might be a nice companion piece.

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Let's go through this one more time. Palmer?

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Yep. Got a call from the office of Senator Morse this morning.

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Interested in setting up a debate,

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possibly with Senator Kerr, over some of the comments

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Benson made on last night's show.

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Secretary of Agriculture. I think that's a good idea.

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Can they do it by this week?

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No, it would have to be two weeks at the earliest,

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depending on Morse's schedule.

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But, uh, still think it's a great idea.

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Let's follow up on that.

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The "Hoover speaks on Benjamin Franklin" piece?

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Well, we re having better luck with Mr Benjamin Franklin

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than we are with Mr Hoover.

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It may progress better as a person-to-person.

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"At home with Ben Franklin." His electricity awards...

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ZOUSMER: We've got the footage. They need to contact him.

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FRIENDLY: See if you can get in touch with him

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and get the shot, he wants to do the story. Joe?

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Remember, Delbert Clark, no longer with us.

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FRIENDLY: New York Times?

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Right, our friend at The Times. WILLIAMS: When?

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This is yesterday morning. They're saying it's, uh...

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How old was he? 53.

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Illness. Uh, sudden illness.

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Home of a friend. No, it's not an obit piece.

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Natalie, send some flowers over there from CBS news.

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Couple things: "Case before the supreme court

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"involving the constitutionality

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"of a section of the internal security act

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"provides for the deportation of any alien

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"if he becomes a communist after entering this country."

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No takers? WOMAN LAUGHS, MOCK SNORING

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"McCarthy interrupting his wedding trip

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"to take charge of the investigation

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"of communist infiltration."

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FRIENDLY: Natalie, send some flowers.

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Poor Mrs McCarthy. May I finish?

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It's national security. A real ladies' man.

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SCOTT: Well, they're in love. They're in love.

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FRIENDLY: We have no show for Tuesday, fellas.

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So get out there and make some news.

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Rob a bank. Mug an old lady. Do something.

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You guys look at the Secretary Stevens footage?

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Watch it all the way to the end. It's worth it.

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Thank you, John.

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There's not much there.

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I can tie it to the "Eisenhower in the back of the train" piece.

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You ever spend any time in Detroit, Fred?

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Not recently.

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There s a story here in The Detroit News,

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Dexter, Michigan.

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Kid named Milo Radulovich.

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Italian? Irish.

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Air Force kicked him out

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because his dad read some Serbian newspaper.

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His dad a communist? I don't know.

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Who brought the charges? Air Force.

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Charges were in a sealed envelope.

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Nobody saw them. Not even at the hearing?

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He was declared guilty without a trial

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and told, if he wanted to keep his job,

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he had to denounce his father and his sister.

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Thank you, Natalie.

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His sister?

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Yeah, he told them to take a hike.

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Let's send Joe and Charlie down there,

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see if he s any good on camera.

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Is he being brought before the Committee?

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No.

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Then it's not McCarthy.

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Isn't it?

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Milo Radulovich.

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WERSHBA: What happens to your children...

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that is, your five-year-old and your five-month-old...

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..in terms of you? Yes, if I am being judged

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on my relatives, if...

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Are my children going to be asked to denounce me?

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Are they going to be judged

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on what their father was labelled?

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Are they going to...

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have to explain to their friends, et cetera,

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why their father is a security risk?

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If...if...if the thing is let stand as...

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as the first recommendation was sent out by the board,

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I see a chain reaction

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that has no end to anybody for anybody.

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Well, that's new.

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I don't think you can call this a neutral piece.

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The other side's been represented well

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for the last couple years.

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We tried to talk to the Air Force.

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They haven't gone on the record. You just want to forego

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the standards you've stuck to for 15 years?

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Both sides, no commentary. We all editorialise...

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I'm just identifying what you're both doing.

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We're giving them the information up front,

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and asking them to comment. Hold on, Fred.

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I've searched my conscience.

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I can't for the life of me find any justification for this.

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And I simply cannot accept that there are, on every story,

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two equal and logical sides to an argument.

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Call it editorialising if you'd like.

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It is editorialising, Ed. They'll have equal time.

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Do you understand the position you're putting us in?

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We are all in this together.

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If the senate wants to investigate...

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Do me this favour, Fred. Avoid any big speeches

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about how we're all in a big boat together, OK?

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Please don't insult me.

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I have to go back to Mr Paley,

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and Alcoa, who sponsors your show

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and also happens to have some military contracts,

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and I have to tell them

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that they're going to be in a bit of a tough bind

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because of a beef you had with Joe McCarthy.

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We're not going at McCarthy.

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Well, you're starting the goddamn fire.

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NATALIE: Excuse me, gentlemen.

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Mr Friendly, there's a Colonel Anderson to see you.

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Colonel? Yeah, he's in your office.

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How many? There's two of them.

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Maybe they liked the transcript and want to compliment us on it.

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Excuse me.

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Go after Joe Kennedy. We'll pay for it.

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I've got a great story about Hoover.

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Ah, well... You know how many Person To Persons

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you're going to have to do to make up for this?

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Judy and her daughter Liza next week.

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No, no, no. You're interviewing Rin Tin Tin.

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I'll talk to Mr Paley.

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Alcoa won't pay for the ads.

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And we probably won't either.

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But nobody'll stop you. How much are the ads?

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Three thousand.

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I'll split it with Fred.

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He just won't have Christmas presents

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for his kids this year.

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He s a Jew.

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Well, don't tell him that, he loves Christmas.

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FRIENDLY: To be clear, you did speak with the lawyers?

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Yes, we did. And we read the transcript.

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We've not been allowed to see the footage.

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We're still shooting it. Charlie Mack is on a plane

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from Dexter right now with the rest of the interview.

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We'll be going right down to the wire...

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Your show airs tomorrow.

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How can we possibly approve and check the story

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that you are running in the limited amount of time

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you have given us? With all due respect,

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you have been invited to participate in this piece,

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not to approve this piece.

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We are going with the story

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that says that the US Air Force

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tried Milo Radulovich without one shred of evidence

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and found him guilty of being a security risk without...

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And you, who also have not seen the evidence,

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are claiming he's not a security risk.

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Wouldn't you guess

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that the people who have seen the contents of that envelope...

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Who? ..might have a better idea

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of what makes someone a danger to his country?

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Who are these people, sir?

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Or should it be just you who decides?

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Who are these people? Are they elected?

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Are they appointed? Do they have an axe to grind?

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Is it you, sir? Or you, Colonel Jenkins?

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Do you know the contents of that sealed envelope?

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Mr Friendly, we have been a friend and ally

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of both Mr Murrow and CBS News for many years.

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The story you are going to run tomorrow is without merit.

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So before you take any steps that cannot be undone,

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I strongly urge you to reconsider your stand.

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These are very dangerous waters you are attempting to navigate.

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As a matter of fact, we had no hearing at all.

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We have had no day in court.

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In all the 32 years

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that I have been a practicing attorney in Detroit,

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I have never witnessed

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such a farce and travesty upon justice

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as this thing has developed.

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Now, this whole... Eddie, just take the first reel.

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Tell John I left five-seconds extra leader.

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Five-seconds extra. I got it, I got it.

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Palmer, where's Joe? Have you seen Joe?

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He's on his way to the control room.

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We're gonna have to do the voice-over live.

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Natalie, I need a booth with a live mic.

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It's there, already set.

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We didn't have time to sync it up.

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HEWITT: That's not what I asked for.

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It's front-loaded about five seconds.

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It's missing the voice-over on the last piece.

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Don, there's a commercial in the booth.

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What do you want me to do?

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Two minutes to air, fellas.

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There's not supposed to be a commercial. Get him out.

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You can't have a mic set up here.

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You go up and do it in the booth.

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Two and a half minutes on the Ed piece.

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Ed, we've got three minutes on the bottom.

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HEWITT: Fellas, keep it down. It's a little loud.

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Two minutes to air, fellas.

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Charlie, let me borrow your lighter.

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Thanks.

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WILLIAMS: I swapped those two pieces of parents on the end...

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ZOUSMER: Well, as long as he talks fast.

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WILLIAMS: He will talk fast.

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We got the film.

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Will it be ready?

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You bet.

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Funny thing, Freddy.

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Every time you light a cigarette for me, I know you're lying.

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You know, it occurs to me

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we might not get away with this one.

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Ten seconds. You fellas ready? OK.

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Ready on camera one.

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FRIENDLY: Five,

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four, three, two...

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HEWITT: Pan, camera one.

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Good evening.

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A few weeks ago, there occurred a few obscure notices

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in the newspapers about a Lieutenant Milo Radulovich,

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a lieutenant in the Air Force reserves.

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And also, something about Air Force regulation 35-62.

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That is a regulation which states

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that a man may be regarded as a security risk

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if he has close and continuing association with communists

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or people believed to have communist sympathies.

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OVER SPEAKERS: Lieutenant Radulovich was asked to resign in August.

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He declined.

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A board was called and heard his case.

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At the end, it was recommended

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that he be severed from the Air Force,

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although it was also stated

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that there was no question whatever

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as to the lieutenant's loyalty.

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We propose to examine, insofar as we can,

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the case of Lieutenant Radulovich.

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Our reporter, Joe Wershba, cameraman, Charlie Mack.

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WERSHBA: This is the town of Dexter, Michigan. Population 1,500.

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This statue is at the end...

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WERSHBA CONTINUES IN THE BACKGROUND

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What did the General tell you yesterday?

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It was a colonel, and there were two of them.

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That makes a general. They weren't too pleased.

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You're gonna get audited this year.

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Not me, you.

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I told them I didn't want to do the story.

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You always were yellow.

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Better than red.

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In ten seconds...

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This is the sister, Margaret Radulovich Fishman.

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She neither defends nor explains her political activities.

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I feel that my activities,

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well, be they what they may, or my political beliefs,

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are my own private affair.

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MILO: If, uh...?

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Are my children going to be asked to, uh, denounce me?

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Are they going to be judged

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on what their father was labelled?

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Are they going to, uh...

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have to explain to their friends, et cetera,

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why their father is a security risk?

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I see, absolutely, uh,

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that this is a chain reaction.

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If the thing is let stand as...

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the first recommendation was sent out by the board,

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I see a chain reaction

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that has no end to anybody, for anybody.

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MURROW: Perhaps you will permit me

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to read a few sentences just at the end

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because I would like to say rather precisely what I mean.

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We have told the Air Force that we will provide facilities

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for any comment, criticism or corrections it may wish to make

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in regard to the case of Milo Radulovich.

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We are unable to judge the charges

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against the Lieutenant's father or sister

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because neither we, nor you, nor they, nor the lawyers,

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nor the Lieutenant know precisely

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what was contained in that manila envelope.

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Was it hearsay, rumour, gossip, slander,

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or hard ascertainable facts

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that could be backed by credible witnesses?

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We do not know.

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We believe the son

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shall not bear the iniquity of the father.

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Even though that iniquity be proved,

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and in this case it was not.

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But we believe, too,

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that this case illustrates the urgent need

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for the armed forces to communicate more fully

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than they have so far done,

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the procedures and regulations to be followed

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in attempting to protect the national security

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and the rights of the individual at the same time.

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Whatever happens in this whole area

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of the relationship between the individual and the state,

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we will do it ourselves.

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It cannot be blamed on Malenkov or Mao Tse-tung,

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or even our allies.

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And it seems to us,

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that is, Fred Friendly and myself,

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that this is a subject

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that should be argued about endlessly.

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Good night, and good luck.

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And we're out.

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MUSIC: "I've Got My Eyes On You" by Dianne Reeves

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# I've got

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# My eyes on you

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# So best beware

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# Where you roam

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# I've set

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# My spies on you

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# I'm checkin' on all you do

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# From a to z

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# So, darling

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# Don't be wise

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# Keep your eyes

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# On

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# Me. #

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May I tell you something about yourself,

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as a member of the Person To Person audience?

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Based on audience research studies,

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you are well above average in education and intelligence.

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Your interests are wide,

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from world affairs and science to sports and show business.

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And you have one characteristic

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that's rather encouraging to me,

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and that's the fact

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that you are not easily persuaded by advertising.

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Now, the makers of Kent

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considered all these characteristics

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when they chose Mr Murrow's programme

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to tell you about Kent.

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Of all leading filter cigarettes,

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Kent filters best.

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Now, if you'll try Kent with that in mind,

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I think you'll agree with many, many other thinking people

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who have changed to Kent.

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They find that it makes good sense to smoke Kent

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and good smoking too.

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Did you get the change on that? OK.

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Let's roll that... OK.

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No, no. You there? OK. We got it.

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ANNOUNCER(OVER SPEAKERS): Now back to Ed Murrow.

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Not since the silent movies and the idols they produced

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has Hollywood witnessed the sort of pilgrimage

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that is now going on.

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Each day, oblivious to time, weather,

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and the state of the world, sightseers head in the direction

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of California's San Fernando Valley.

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For there, at the end of the tourist line, is Sherman Oaks,

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and the home Liberace has built for himself and his mother.

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This is the front,

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and nobody knows how many people have seen that view.

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This is the back of the house, and that's Liberace's bedroom.

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Good evening, Lee.

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(OVER PHONE) Good evening, Ed.

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What are you doing?

0:25:020:25:03

Well, I'm just dictating

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my weekly syndicated newspaper column and...

0:25:050:25:08

on my trusty tape recorder here.

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I also am dictating a book.

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It's an inspirational book...

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What about you? Have you given much thought

0:25:150:25:16

to getting married and settling down?

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LIBERACE: Actually, I've given a lot of thought to marriage,

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but I don't believe in getting married

0:25:210:25:23

just for the sake of getting married.

0:25:230:25:24

I want to someday find the perfect mate

0:25:240:25:28

and settle down to, what I hope will be,

0:25:280:25:30

a marriage that will be blessed by faith

0:25:300:25:33

and will be a lasting union.

0:25:330:25:35

In fact, I was reading

0:25:350:25:37

about lovely young Princess Margaret,

0:25:370:25:40

and she's looking for her dream man too,

0:25:400:25:43

and I hope she finds him someday.

0:25:430:25:45

Uh-huh. Well, Lee, thanks very much

0:25:460:25:49

for letting us come and visit you.

0:25:490:25:50

It's been very pleasant.

0:25:500:25:51

And will you say good night to the rest of your family for us?

0:25:510:25:53

I certainly would. Thanks a lot.

0:25:530:25:55

Good night, Ed. Good night, Lee.

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Next week, we'll take you to Beverly Hills, California,

0:25:560:26:01

to the house of Mickey Rooney and his new bride.

0:26:010:26:03

Until then, good night, and good luck.

0:26:030:26:06

MAN: Good show, Mr Murrow.

0:26:120:26:13

NATALIE: Excuse me, Mr Murrow.

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When you have a moment, can you take a look at this

0:26:370:26:39

and sign it for me?

0:26:390:26:40

Thank you. Oh, Dr Stanton wanted to know

0:26:400:26:42

if you could have a drink with him.

0:26:420:26:43

When? Now. He's at the Pentagon Bar.

0:26:430:26:45

I can't. What the hell is he doing there?

0:26:450:26:47

I believe he's waiting for you.

0:26:470:26:49

Well, just call him, Natalie. That's fine.

0:26:490:26:51

Oppenheimer next week.

0:26:510:26:52

It's a good show, Ed.

0:26:520:26:53

Hey, Don. Ed.

0:26:540:26:55

You're getting good at this.

0:26:570:26:58

They're gonna think you like it.

0:26:580:27:00

Heh. Pays the bills.

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How are you, Don?

0:27:010:27:04

Ah, it's...

0:27:040:27:06

day-to-day.

0:27:060:27:08

Well, if she saw how good you look right now,

0:27:080:27:10

she'd be back.

0:27:100:27:11

You tell her that if you see her, will you?

0:27:110:27:15

I read the O'Brian piece.

0:27:150:27:18

Yeah, it's tough.

0:27:180:27:19

I'm a pinko. I slant the news.

0:27:190:27:23

I'm just waiting for him to say my wife left me too.

0:27:230:27:26

Nobody worth their salt reads him.

0:27:260:27:29

You read him.

0:27:290:27:30

Well, see, I rest my case.

0:27:300:27:32

Does Paley read him?

0:27:330:27:36

Bill Paley's not gonna do anything, Don.

0:27:360:27:38

Well...

0:27:380:27:40

thanks, Ed.

0:27:400:27:42

Oh, I just came by to tell you

0:27:430:27:44

how great the lieutenant piece was.

0:27:440:27:46

Thanks. How's the fallout?

0:27:460:27:47

Mostly good, surprisingly.

0:27:470:27:49

Is this the start?

0:27:490:27:51

Are you taking sides?

0:27:510:27:53

It's just a little poke with a stick,

0:27:530:27:56

see what happens.

0:27:560:27:57

You let me know if I can help.

0:27:570:27:59

But you're a pinko, Don.

0:27:590:28:01

DON LAUGHS

0:28:010:28:03

I'll see you, Ed.

0:28:030:28:05

INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:28:130:28:15

SURINE: Hey, Joe, what's all this Radwich junk you're putting out?

0:28:200:28:22

Don, I can't talk to you right now. I gotta get this film back to New York.

0:28:220:28:25

What would you say if I told you Murrow was on the Soviet payroll in 1935?

0:28:250:28:29

Uh, Charlie, you want to...

0:28:310:28:32

Sure. I'll set up outside.

0:28:320:28:34

McCarthy going to the Eisenhower dinner?

0:28:360:28:38

I have no idea. I don t keep the Senator's calendar for him, Joe.

0:28:380:28:40

Really?

0:28:400:28:41

Don, ever seen... any spy films?

0:28:450:28:47

You don't just hand me a classified folder.

0:28:470:28:49

You're supposed to slip it in my briefcase when I'm not looking.

0:28:490:28:51

It's perfect. I didn't know who to give this information to, Paley or Murrow.

0:28:510:28:54

As you can imagine, Fred and I aren't very friendly.

0:28:540:28:57

No pun intended.

0:28:570:28:58

Well, no pun elocuted.

0:28:580:29:00

What do you got? In short?

0:29:030:29:04

Murrow's been a communist sympathiser since the 1930s.

0:29:040:29:07

Member of the International Workers,

0:29:070:29:09

sponsored educational trips to Moscow,

0:29:090:29:11

and on the Soviet payroll in 1935. It's all there.

0:29:110:29:14

You wanna know why that's not possible?

0:29:140:29:15

Why you'll lose this one, Donald?

0:29:150:29:17

Because everyone in this country knows

0:29:170:29:20

Ed Murrow is a loyal American.

0:29:200:29:21

He's a patriot.

0:29:210:29:23

DONALD SCOFFS

0:29:230:29:24

Did you know the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary, Joe?

0:29:240:29:27

Can I give this to him?

0:29:270:29:28

Oh, I'd love it. I have copies.

0:29:280:29:30

I think you guys go too far.

0:29:330:29:35

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.

0:29:350:29:38

MARY: Yes, Mr Paley.

0:29:430:29:45

Right away. Yes, sir.

0:29:450:29:47

No, he hasn't called.

0:29:490:29:51

Yes, sir, the second he calls.

0:29:510:29:53

If you're in a meeting, shall I...?

0:29:530:29:55

Yes, sir. Of course, sir.

0:29:560:29:59

Mr Murrow...

0:30:000:30:02

Mr Paley will see you now.

0:30:020:30:05

Mr Paley, Mr Murrow is here.

0:30:070:30:10

Thank you, Miss Mary.

0:30:100:30:12

Hello, Ed. Bill.

0:30:120:30:14

Sit over here, will you?

0:30:140:30:16

How's Janet? Your son?

0:30:160:30:18

All well, thanks. How's Babe?

0:30:180:30:20

Oh, she's fine. She's fine.

0:30:200:30:21

Her fundraiser got rained on, so...

0:30:210:30:23

Oh. That's why I never plan on anything.

0:30:230:30:25

Really?

0:30:250:30:27

You'd never know.

0:30:270:30:29

Reading fiction?

0:30:320:30:34

I hope so. You tell me.

0:30:340:30:36

Well, now we know how they're gonna come at us.

0:30:360:30:39

That's just their first shot.

0:30:390:30:40

Somebody's going to go down.

0:30:400:30:42

Have you checked your facts?

0:30:420:30:43

Are you sure you're on safe ground?

0:30:430:30:46

Bill, it's time. Show our cards.

0:30:460:30:49

My cards. You lose, what happens?

0:30:490:30:52

Five guys find themselves out of work.

0:30:520:30:55

I'm responsible for a hell of a lot more

0:30:550:30:57

than five goddamn reporters.

0:30:570:30:58

Let it go.

0:30:580:30:59

McCarthy will self-destruct, Cohn, all of them.

0:30:590:31:03

Bill, you said corporate would not interfere with editorial,

0:31:030:31:05

and that the news was to be left our own...

0:31:050:31:06

We don't make the news, we report the news.

0:31:060:31:08

99% of the time, he's wrong about the people he's marked as communists.

0:31:080:31:11

And if he goes too far, the senate will investigate him,

0:31:110:31:13

and we will report on that. But he's wrong 100% of the time

0:31:130:31:16

when he oversteps people's civil liberties.

0:31:160:31:17

You're trying him in the press.

0:31:170:31:18

Does he get to face his accuser?

0:31:180:31:20

You've just decided on this,

0:31:200:31:22

and now you're presenting it as fact.

0:31:220:31:23

What I am doing, Bill... I write your cheque.

0:31:230:31:25

I put you in your country house,

0:31:250:31:27

and I put your son through school.

0:31:270:31:29

You should have told me about this

0:31:290:31:31

before it went so far down the road.

0:31:310:31:32

Every one of your boys needs to be clean.

0:31:430:31:46

Do you understand? No ties.

0:31:460:31:47

If Aaron's mother

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so much as went to a group fundraiser in 1932,

0:31:490:31:51

he's out. Hewitt too.

0:31:510:31:53

Anyone in that room. You make no mistake,

0:31:530:31:56

I will cut them loose.

0:31:560:31:58

Corporate won't interfere with editorial.

0:31:580:31:59

But editorial will not... INTERCOM BUZZES

0:31:590:32:01

..jeopardise the hundreds of employees

0:32:010:32:04

of the Columbia Broadcasting System.

0:32:040:32:05

Do I make myself clear?

0:32:050:32:07

..Yes?

0:32:070:32:08

FRIENDLY: Fellas,

0:32:130:32:15

our next show is gonna be about Senator McCarthy.

0:32:150:32:18

And we re gonna go right at him.

0:32:180:32:20

I don't need to tell you how careful we have to be.

0:32:200:32:23

If we are to do this,

0:32:230:32:24

then Ed and I need you to be straight with us.

0:32:240:32:26

We need to know, for the good of the piece,

0:32:260:32:28

if any of you have any connection at all,

0:32:280:32:30

if you subscribed to a newsletter,

0:32:300:32:32

if you attended a party, anything.

0:32:320:32:34

Anything that could compromise this,

0:32:340:32:37

anything at all, because now would be the time to tell us.

0:32:370:32:41

Ed, I think I should excuse myself.

0:32:450:32:47

ZOUSMER: Palmer, you kidding?

0:32:470:32:50

PALMER: My ex was a...

0:32:500:32:51

well, I wouldn't say she was a communist,

0:32:510:32:53

but she certainly attended meetings.

0:32:530:32:55

It was before we were married.

0:32:550:32:56

I didn't even really know about it until after the divorce.

0:32:560:32:59

But it was different then. We were all on the same side.

0:32:590:33:03

I'm not telling you guys anything you don't know.

0:33:030:33:05

The thing of it is, somebody'll find out.

0:33:050:33:09

They'll hurt us with it.

0:33:090:33:11

I should have told you sooner, Ed. I'm sorry.

0:33:120:33:15

Fred.

0:33:160:33:17

Oh, if none of us had ever read a dangerous book

0:33:200:33:22

or had a friend who was different,

0:33:220:33:25

never joined an organisation that advocated change,

0:33:250:33:27

we'd all be just the kind of people Joe McCarthy wants.

0:33:270:33:31

We're gonna go with the story,

0:33:320:33:34

cos the terror is right here in this room.

0:33:340:33:37

FRIENDLY: John, Jesse,

0:33:390:33:40

go through the HUAC hearings.

0:33:400:33:42

Eddie, Palmer, look into the interviews

0:33:420:33:43

and any speeches.

0:33:430:33:45

OK, fellas, here we go.

0:33:460:33:48

His own words,

0:33:480:33:49

that's what we need.

0:33:490:33:51

MCCARTHY: He wouldn't remove a general from the army

0:33:510:33:53

who cleared a communist major.

0:33:530:33:55

I said, "Then, General,

0:33:550:33:56

"you should be removed from any command.

0:33:560:33:58

"Any man who says,

0:33:580:34:00

"I will protect another general

0:34:000:34:02

"who protects communists,

0:34:020:34:04

"is not fit to wear that uniform, General."

0:34:040:34:06

WILLIAMS: All right, so hold on.

0:34:060:34:08

Ethically, we're fine.

0:34:080:34:09

But legally, if we air this,

0:34:090:34:10

are we leaking closed-hearing testimony?

0:34:100:34:13

SCOTT: Well, we're not misquoting him.

0:34:130:34:15

There are other reporters. I think legally we're safe.

0:34:150:34:17

If it's a legal issue, it's his.

0:34:170:34:18

SCOTT: I'll check with legal.

0:34:180:34:19

And wait till you hear the bleeding hearts

0:34:190:34:22

scream and cry about our methods

0:34:220:34:25

of trying to drag the truth

0:34:250:34:29

from those who know or should know,

0:34:290:34:32

who covered up

0:34:320:34:34

a Fifth Amendment communist major.

0:34:340:34:36

But they say, "Oh,

0:34:360:34:38

"it's all right to uncover them,

0:34:380:34:40

"but don't get rough doing it, McCarthy."

0:34:400:34:42

CROWD CHUCKLES

0:34:420:34:43

Did the Civil... Civil Liberties Union

0:34:430:34:46

provide you with an attorney at that time?

0:34:460:34:48

HARRIS: I had many offers of attorneys,

0:34:480:34:51

and one of those was from the American Civil Liberties Union, yes.

0:34:510:34:54

MCCARTHY: The questions is,

0:34:540:34:55

did they supply you with an attorney?

0:34:550:34:57

- They did supply an attorney.

0:34:570:34:59

- The answer is yes? - The answer is yes.

0:34:590:35:01

- You know the Civil Liberties Union

0:35:010:35:03

has been listed as a front for and doing the work

0:35:030:35:05

of the communist party?

0:35:050:35:07

- Mr Chairman, this was 1932.

0:35:070:35:10

- Yeah, I know that was 1932.

0:35:100:35:11

Do you know that they since have been listed

0:35:110:35:13

as a front for and doing the work of the communist party?

0:35:130:35:16

- I do not know that they have been listed.

0:35:160:35:18

- You don't know they have been listed?

0:35:180:35:20

- I have heard that mentioned...

0:35:200:35:21

All right, Leo. Turn it off.

0:35:210:35:22

ZOUSMER: I need those three cans.

0:35:220:35:24

FRIENDLY: Has anybody read this book yet? It would be nice

0:35:240:35:26

if this guy isn't actually a commie.

0:35:260:35:28

WILLIAMS: I wanna read the book.

0:35:280:35:30

WERSHBA: I hear you, boss.

0:35:300:35:32

I'll put it on a kinescope. Push through to the end.

0:35:320:35:34

FRIENDLY: Palmer, cut it at 2:30.

0:35:340:35:35

ZOUSMER: I prefer it one on each end, let it run through.

0:35:350:35:38

I think it'd be more powerful. Cut Kennedy, shorten the piece.

0:35:380:35:40

FRIENDLY: Joe, file it for me. I'll see the Mundt piece later.

0:35:400:35:43

MURROW: Are we gonna make it, Fred?

0:35:430:35:45

FRIENDLY: We lost the telecine, but we'll make it.

0:35:450:35:47

Did you finish your closing piece?

0:35:500:35:53

MURROW: It's Shakespeare.

0:35:530:35:56

FRIENDLY: Write your closing.

0:35:560:35:58

WERSHBA: My argument was,

0:36:230:36:25

if you just show the images of McCarthy,

0:36:250:36:27

it doesn't make any difference.

0:36:270:36:29

If you agree with him, you're gonna hate it.

0:36:290:36:30

If you don't, you'll love it.

0:36:300:36:32

Maybe they should wait till they get more footage.

0:36:320:36:34

I don't think we can take that chance.

0:36:340:36:35

See, we've gotta hit McCarthy before he comes after Ed.

0:36:350:36:38

The blue one.

0:36:390:36:41

Well, they haven't gone after the Alsops or Herb Block.

0:36:410:36:43

Well, honey...

0:36:430:36:44

the Alsops and Herb Block didn't work

0:36:440:36:47

for the Institute of International Education in 1934.

0:36:470:36:51

Then I guess it's time.

0:36:510:36:52

You worried?

0:36:590:37:00

I didn't think I was. Hm.

0:37:030:37:05

I don't know why. I was in the office on Friday.

0:37:050:37:07

And I answered the phone, and it was Howard calling from London.

0:37:070:37:10

And he asked what was going on with McCarthy.

0:37:100:37:13

And before I answered him

0:37:130:37:15

I turned and looked over my shoulder

0:37:150:37:18

to see who was listening.

0:37:180:37:19

And who was listening?

0:37:190:37:23

Chairman Mao.

0:37:230:37:24

See you at the office.

0:37:300:37:32

Hey, your ring.

0:37:320:37:33

Name me another wife

0:37:370:37:38

who reminds her husband to take off

0:37:380:37:41

his wedding ring before he goes to the office.

0:37:410:37:43

Ava Gardner.

0:37:430:37:46

NATALIE: Excuse me, Mr Friendly. Mr Murrow?

0:37:520:37:53

Uh, Mr Paley's on the line for you.

0:37:530:37:56

Maybe he wants to reimburse us for those ads.

0:37:570:38:00

Ah, you'd like that. I would like that.

0:38:000:38:02

This is Ed.

0:38:020:38:03

PALEY: There s a Knickerbocker game tonight.

0:38:030:38:05

I've got front row seats. Are you interested?

0:38:050:38:09

I'm a little busy bringing down the network tonight, Bill.

0:38:090:38:12

Is that tonight?

0:38:120:38:14

We're covered, Bill.

0:38:140:38:17

All right.

0:38:170:38:18

I'm with you today, Ed,

0:38:200:38:22

and I'm with you tomorrow.

0:38:220:38:24

Thanks, Bill.

0:38:240:38:25

LINE CLICKS

0:38:250:38:27

PHONE RINGS

0:38:380:38:39

Do you know the timing on this first piece?

0:38:390:38:41

SIMON: You have the wrong extension.

0:38:410:38:43

Can we hold all the calls, please, Simon?

0:38:430:38:45

All the calls till after the show, thank you.

0:38:450:38:47

MACK: You fellas awake down there?

0:38:470:38:49

AARON: OK.

0:38:490:38:50

What are we, 20?

0:38:500:38:51

FRIENDLY: 30 seconds.

0:38:510:38:53

INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER TV

0:38:580:39:01

FRIENDLY: Ten seconds.

0:39:070:39:09

FRIENDLY: Five, four,

0:39:130:39:15

three, two...

0:39:150:39:19

ZOUSMER: And pan, camera one.

0:39:190:39:21

Because a report

0:39:230:39:25

on Senator McCarthy is, by definition, controversial,

0:39:250:39:28

we want to say exactly what we mean to say

0:39:280:39:30

and request your permission to read from a script

0:39:300:39:32

whatever remarks Murrow and Friendly may make.

0:39:320:39:35

If the Senator feels that we have done violence

0:39:350:39:38

to his words or pictures,

0:39:380:39:39

and desires, so to speak, to answer himself,

0:39:390:39:42

an opportunity will be afforded him on this programme.

0:39:420:39:45

Our working thesis tonight is this quotation:

0:39:450:39:49

"If this fight against communism has made a fight

0:39:490:39:51

"between America's two great political parties,

0:39:510:39:53

"the American people know that one of these parties will be destroyed.

0:39:530:39:56

"And the Republic cannot endure very long

0:39:560:39:58

"as a one-party system."

0:39:580:39:59

We applaud that statement,

0:39:590:40:01

and we think Senator McCarthy ought to.

0:40:010:40:03

He said it 17 months ago in Milwaukee.

0:40:030:40:06

MCCARTHY (OVER SPEAKERS): The American people realise that this cannot be made

0:40:060:40:10

a fight between America's two great political parties.

0:40:100:40:12

If this fight against communism is made a fight

0:40:120:40:15

against America's two great political parties,

0:40:150:40:17

the American people know

0:40:170:40:19

that one of those parties will be destroyed,

0:40:190:40:21

and the Republic can't endure very long

0:40:210:40:23

as a one-party system.

0:40:230:40:26

MURROW: On one thing,

0:40:260:40:27

the Senator has been consistent.

0:40:270:40:28

Often operating as a one-man committee,

0:40:280:40:31

he has travelled far, interviewed many,

0:40:310:40:33

terrorised some.

0:40:330:40:34

Accused civilian and military leaders

0:40:340:40:36

of the past administration of a great conspiracy

0:40:360:40:39

to turn over the country to communism.

0:40:390:40:41

MCCARTHY: Well, may I say that I was extremely shocked

0:40:410:40:43

when I heard that Secretary Stevens

0:40:430:40:45

told two army officers that they...

0:40:450:40:48

had to take part in the cover-up

0:40:480:40:50

of those who promoted and coddled communists.

0:40:500:40:53

As I read his statement, I, uh...

0:40:530:40:56

thought of that quotation,

0:40:560:40:58

"On what meat doth this our Caesar feed?"

0:40:580:41:03

MCCARTHY: The question is, did the Civil Liberties Union

0:41:030:41:05

supply you with an attorney?

0:41:050:41:06

HARRIS: They did supply an attorney.

0:41:060:41:08

-The answer is yes?

0:41:080:41:09

- The answer is yes.

0:41:090:41:11

- Do you think this book did considerable harm,

0:41:110:41:13

its publication,

0:41:130:41:15

by an expression of the views contained in it?

0:41:150:41:18

- The sale of that book was so abysmally small,

0:41:180:41:22

it was so unsuccessful,

0:41:220:41:24

that a question of its influence, uh...

0:41:240:41:26

Really, you can go back to the publisher.

0:41:260:41:28

You'll see it was one of the most unsuccessful books

0:41:280:41:30

he ever put out.

0:41:300:41:32

He's still sorry about it, just as I am.

0:41:320:41:34

- I think that's a compliment to American intelligence...

0:41:340:41:38

CROWD CHUCKLES

0:41:380:41:39

..I'll say that.

0:41:390:41:40

The Reed Harris hearing demonstrates

0:41:400:41:42

one of the Senator's techniques.

0:41:420:41:43

Twice he said,

0:41:430:41:45

"The American Civil Liberties Union was listed

0:41:450:41:47

"as a subversive front."

0:41:470:41:49

The Attorney General's list does not and never has

0:41:490:41:51

listed the ACLU as subversive, nor does the FBI

0:41:510:41:55

or any other federal government agency.

0:41:550:41:57

And the American Civil Liberties Union holds in its files

0:41:570:42:00

letters of commendation from President Truman,

0:42:000:42:03

President Eisenhower, and General Macarthur.

0:42:030:42:06

Earlier, the Senator asked,

0:42:060:42:08

"Upon what meat does this our Caesar feed?"

0:42:080:42:11

Had he looked three lines earlier in Shakespeare's Caesar,

0:42:110:42:14

he would have found this line,

0:42:140:42:15

which is not all together inappropriate.

0:42:150:42:17

"The fault, dear Brutus,

0:42:170:42:18

"is not in our stars, but in ourselves."

0:42:180:42:21

No one familiar with the history of this country can deny

0:42:210:42:24

that congressional committees are useful.

0:42:240:42:27

It is necessary to investigate before legislating,

0:42:270:42:29

but the line between investigating and persecuting

0:42:290:42:32

is a very fine one.

0:42:320:42:33

And the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

0:42:330:42:35

has stepped over it repeatedly.

0:42:350:42:36

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.

0:42:360:42:40

We must remember always that accusation is not proof,

0:42:400:42:43

and that conviction depends upon evidence

0:42:430:42:45

and due process of law.

0:42:450:42:47

We will not walk in fear, one of another.

0:42:470:42:50

We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason.

0:42:500:42:53

If we dig deep in our history and our doctrine,

0:42:530:42:56

and remember that we are not descended from fearful men,

0:42:560:42:59

not from men who feared to write, to associate, to speak,

0:42:590:43:02

and to defend the causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.

0:43:020:43:06

This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy's methods

0:43:060:43:09

to keep silent, or for those who approve.

0:43:090:43:13

We can deny our heritage and our history,

0:43:130:43:15

but we cannot escape responsibility for the results.

0:43:150:43:19

We proclaim ourselves, indeed as we are,

0:43:190:43:21

the defenders of freedom

0:43:210:43:23

wherever it continues to exist in the world.

0:43:230:43:25

But we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

0:43:250:43:28

The actions of the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

0:43:280:43:31

have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad

0:43:310:43:34

and given considerable comfort to our enemies.

0:43:340:43:37

And whose fault is that?

0:43:370:43:39

Not really his.

0:43:390:43:41

He didn't create this situation of fear,

0:43:410:43:43

he merely exploited it, and rather successfully.

0:43:430:43:46

Cassius was right.

0:43:470:43:49

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,

0:43:490:43:52

"but in ourselves."

0:43:520:43:54

Good night, and good luck.

0:43:540:43:56

FRIENDLY: And we're out.

0:44:030:44:06

Nothing?

0:44:170:44:19

Well, maybe nobody watched.

0:44:210:44:24

WILLIAMS: We got nothing.

0:44:280:44:29

I don't know. Nothing.

0:44:290:44:30

SIMON: Should I turn the phones back on, Mr Williams?

0:44:300:44:33

Yes, I think now would be a good time for that.

0:44:350:44:38

Turn the phones on! PHONES RING

0:44:380:44:40

Turn the phones right on.

0:44:400:44:41

It's the Junior Senator calling collect.

0:44:410:44:44

Don't kid yourself. It's Reed Harris

0:44:440:44:46

thanking us for putting him on the best-seller list.

0:44:460:44:48

I don t know whether all of you have seen what I just saw,

0:44:480:44:50

but I want to associate myself and this programme

0:44:500:44:53

with what Ed Murrow has just said,

0:44:530:44:55

and say I have never been prouder of CBS.

0:44:550:44:59

Great show.

0:44:590:45:01

HOLLENBECK: ...McCarthy said today that he would demand equal free...

0:45:010:45:04

PHONES STILL RING

0:45:040:45:07

PHONES RING

0:45:090:45:10

HOLLENBECK: ...charged that the senator made demagoguery and deceit

0:45:100:45:14

the national policy of the Republican Party.

0:45:140:45:17

You got Hollenbeck?

0:45:170:45:18

Congratulations. Great show. Good work.

0:45:180:45:20

Feel like a scotch?

0:45:200:45:22

I think everybody could use a scotch.

0:45:220:45:26

MUSIC PLAYS: "You're Driving Me Crazy" by Dianne Reeves

0:45:300:45:34

# You You're drivin' me crazy

0:45:340:45:37

# What did I do?

0:45:370:45:39

# What did I do?

0:45:390:45:40

# My tears for you

0:45:400:45:42

# Make everything hazy

0:45:420:45:44

# Cloudin' the sky of blue

0:45:440:45:47

# How true

0:45:480:45:50

# Were the friends who were near me to cheer me?

0:45:500:45:51

# Believe me, they knew But you

0:45:510:45:53

# Were the one who would hurt me, desert me

0:45:530:45:55

# When I needed you

0:45:550:45:56

# Oh, you You're drivin' me crazy

0:45:560:45:59

# What did I do to you...? #

0:45:590:46:04

It's 3:30. Early editions are out.

0:46:140:46:16

MURROW: I'm not worried.

0:46:160:46:17

No, of course not.

0:46:170:46:18

Shirley, honey, would you go across the street

0:46:180:46:20

and get the early editions? All of them?

0:46:200:46:22

Just get O'Brian.

0:46:220:46:24

LAUGHTER

0:46:240:46:26

Hey, watch my drink.

0:46:260:46:28

Yeah.

0:46:280:46:30

# ..What did I do to you? #

0:46:310:46:36

ZOUSMER: Well?

0:46:580:46:59

SHIRLEY: OK, here we go.

0:46:590:47:02

At last.

0:47:020:47:03

The Times.

0:47:030:47:04

Right on time.

0:47:040:47:05

SCOTT: Good. Who wrote it?

0:47:050:47:07

Jack Gould.

0:47:070:47:08

Gould? Ah...

0:47:080:47:10

"Edward R Murrow's television programme

0:47:100:47:12

"on Senator Joseph R McCarthy

0:47:120:47:13

"was an exciting and provocative examination

0:47:130:47:15

"of the man and his methods.

0:47:150:47:17

"It was crusading journalism

0:47:170:47:19

"of high responsibility and courage.

0:47:190:47:21

"For TV so often plagued by timidity and hesitation,

0:47:210:47:23

"the programme was a milestone

0:47:230:47:25

"that reflected enlightened citizenship..."

0:47:250:47:27

"The programme..." Hold on.

0:47:270:47:29

"The programme was no less an indictment of those who wish

0:47:290:47:32

"the problems posed by the Senator's tactics

0:47:320:47:34

"and theatrics would just go away and leave them alone."

0:47:340:47:36

"That was Mr Murrow's and television's triumph

0:47:360:47:39

"and a very great one."

0:47:390:47:41

Hear, hear.

0:47:440:47:45

FRIENDLY: He hated it.

0:47:450:47:46

MURROW: Yeah, what's his beef, huh?

0:47:460:47:48

Send the New York Times a bottle of scotch.

0:47:480:47:50

I did. How do you think we got that review?

0:47:500:47:51

ZOUSMER: How's The Post?

0:47:510:47:53

WERSHBA: Pretty good.

0:47:530:47:54

What about O'Brian?

0:47:540:47:55

SHIRLEY: Uh, the same.

0:47:550:47:57

LAUGHTER

0:47:570:47:58

Go on, go on. Read O'Brian.

0:47:580:48:00

Uh, I don't have it. Got it.

0:48:000:48:01

Oh, here. Here we go.

0:48:010:48:04

Shirley, that...

0:48:040:48:06

"We can't say we were surprised

0:48:090:48:11

"at Edward R Murrow's Hate McCarthy telecast last evening,

0:48:110:48:14

"when his explosively one-sided propaganda,

0:48:140:48:16

"edited with deviously clever selectivity from McCarthy's

0:48:160:48:19

"march against communism, was finished last evening.

0:48:190:48:22

"By equally machiavellian coincidence

0:48:220:48:24

"the following telecast featured Murrow's PM protege, Hollenbeck.

0:48:240:48:28

"In an obviously gloating mood,

0:48:280:48:30

"Hollenbeck hoped viewers had witnessed

0:48:300:48:33

"his patron's triumph from and for the Left."

0:48:330:48:35

Hm.

0:48:360:48:37

So on.

0:48:370:48:38

HOLLENBECK: Shirley, it's OK. Finish it.

0:48:380:48:40

No, that's it. Shirley, please.

0:48:400:48:42

Finish it.

0:48:420:48:44

"The Columbia Broadcasting System has been in a lengthy

0:48:460:48:49

"clean house of Lefties mood.

0:48:490:48:51

"The worst offenders on lesser levels

0:48:510:48:53

"have been quietly pushed out of the company.

0:48:530:48:55

"Don Hollenbeck, a graduate of the demised

0:48:550:48:57

"pinko publication PM, attacked conservative papers

0:48:570:49:01

"with sly and slanted propaganda.

0:49:010:49:03

"He then proceeded through an equally..."

0:49:030:49:05

SHIRLEY SIGHS

0:49:050:49:07

"..tilted review of the day's events with McCarthy

0:49:070:49:09

"dominating his words, actions, attitudes."

0:49:090:49:12

So on, so on.

0:49:120:49:13

It's O'Brian.

0:49:160:49:17

Yeah. He didn't get the scotch, that's all.

0:49:170:49:19

SCOTT: Grammatically correct?

0:49:190:49:21

I'll have that cigarette, Ed.

0:49:210:49:23

PALMER: Thanks, Shirley. SHIRLEY: Ah.

0:49:230:49:26

ZOUSMER: Thank you. Joe, Shirley.

0:49:260:49:31

For the leg work.

0:49:310:49:32

FRIENDLY: It doesn't add up.

0:49:340:49:36

SHIRLEY: Yeah.

0:49:370:49:39

SHE CHUCKLES To Jack Gould.

0:49:390:49:42

FRIENDLY: To Jack, to Jack, to Jack Gould.

0:49:420:49:44

SHIRLEY: I love Jack Gould!

0:49:440:49:46

AARON: A scholar and a gentleman.

0:49:460:49:48

SCOTT: May he rest in peace.

0:49:480:49:49

Hello, Jimmy.

0:49:510:49:52

Fred, congratulations.

0:49:520:49:53

Thank you.

0:49:530:49:55

I got a hangover you wouldn't believe.

0:49:550:49:56

All the ad guys on the third floor watched the show.

0:49:560:49:58

Got a good review in The New York Times.

0:49:580:50:00

Switchboard lit up all night. Jack Gould.

0:50:000:50:02

Putting out a press release that said calls came in 15-1

0:50:020:50:04

in favour of the show. Really?

0:50:040:50:05

We got calls from everywhere.

0:50:050:50:08

East coast or the west coast?

0:50:080:50:09

Yeah. Kansas City, Cincinnati.

0:50:090:50:12

Mr Paley.

0:50:120:50:14

Morning, Fred.

0:50:140:50:15

Good morning, Mr Paley.

0:50:150:50:17

How's your wife?

0:50:210:50:23

She's fine. Getting ready to move.

0:50:230:50:25

Really? Where to?

0:50:250:50:26

Riverdale. We found a nice house there.

0:50:260:50:27

Yeah. It's nice there.

0:50:270:50:29

Yes, sir.

0:50:290:50:31

Excuse me.

0:50:370:50:38

Fred,

0:50:380:50:39

McCarthy wants William Buckley to do his rebuttal.

0:50:390:50:43

I said no.

0:50:430:50:46

Yes, sir.

0:50:460:50:48

Hey, Johnny.

0:50:530:50:54

Radulovich has been reinstated.

0:50:540:50:56

AARON: What?

0:50:560:50:58

Guys, guys, Radulovich has been reinstated.

0:50:580:51:00

AARON: Jesse, Jesse!

0:51:000:51:01

Where did you hear this?

0:51:010:51:03

Got some good news. Got some very good news.

0:51:030:51:06

Special announcement from the Secretary of the Air Force.

0:51:060:51:09

Fellas. Fellas, listen up!

0:51:090:51:10

Everyone.

0:51:100:51:11

"I have decided that it is consistent

0:51:110:51:13

"with the interests of the national security

0:51:130:51:15

"to retain Lieutenant Radulovich in the United States Air Force.

0:51:150:51:18

"Stop.

0:51:180:51:20

"He is not, in my opinion, a security risk.

0:51:200:51:22

"Full stop."

0:51:220:51:23

CHEERS AND LAUGHTER

0:51:230:51:25

There you go.

0:51:250:51:26

Harold E Talbott, Secretary from the Air Force.

0:51:260:51:28

FRIENDLY: Congratulations. Great job.

0:51:280:51:31

Make a copy of that for me. I will do, Fred.

0:51:310:51:33

Good job, Don.

0:51:330:51:35

All right! SCOTT: this means something.

0:51:350:51:36

This absolutely means something, you know it does.

0:51:360:51:38

ZOUSMER: Absolutely. This is the start of...

0:51:380:51:41

TYPEWRITER CLACKS

0:51:410:51:42

Palmer?

0:51:480:51:50

The CBS lawyers wanna talk to you.

0:51:520:51:55

When? Tomorrow.

0:51:570:52:00

FRIENDLY: I don't want you to get paranoid.

0:52:000:52:02

They're talking to everybody.

0:52:020:52:04

PALMER: Any ideas?

0:52:040:52:06

Just tell them what you know.

0:52:060:52:08

COHN (ON TV): Now, is that testimony true?

0:52:080:52:09

MOSS: No, sir, it is not.

0:52:090:52:11

Not at any time have I been a member

0:52:110:52:13

of a communist party,

0:52:130:52:14

and I have never seen a communist card.

0:52:140:52:16

You've never seen a communist card?

0:52:160:52:17

That's right.

0:52:170:52:19

Have you ever attended any meetings?

0:52:190:52:20

No, sir, I ve never attended any communist meetings.

0:52:200:52:22

Have you ever subscribed to The Daily Worker?

0:52:220:52:25

No, sir, I didn t subscribe for The Daily Worker,

0:52:250:52:27

and I wouldn't pay for it.

0:52:270:52:28

McCARTHY: Uh, now, Mrs Markward,

0:52:280:52:32

who was working for the FBI,

0:52:320:52:34

who joined the Communist Party under orders from the FBI,

0:52:340:52:37

has testified that while she never met you

0:52:370:52:39

personally at a communist meeting,

0:52:390:52:42

that your name was on the list

0:52:420:52:44

of communists who were paying dues.

0:52:440:52:47

Uh, can you shed any light upon that?

0:52:470:52:51

No, sir. I don t even know

0:52:510:52:52

what the dues are or where they were paid.

0:52:520:52:55

McCARTHY: So I understand you have never paid any money

0:52:550:52:57

to the Communist Party, is that correct?

0:52:570:53:00

That's right.

0:53:000:53:02

You've never paid any dues...

0:53:020:53:04

Right, thank you, Leo. Thank you very much.

0:53:040:53:06

Good work, Joe, Charlie.

0:53:060:53:09

Now, what is the show?

0:53:090:53:10

Is it defending Annie Lee Moss as not being a communist?

0:53:100:53:13

Or is it her constitutional rights?

0:53:130:53:15

I think we're much better sticking up for constitutional issues.

0:53:150:53:18

Agreed? The woman is not a spy.

0:53:180:53:19

FRIENDLY: McCarthy said that they have a spy in the Pentagon,

0:53:190:53:22

that spy has gotten into the code room,

0:53:220:53:24

and that that spy is Annie Lee Moss.

0:53:240:53:26

I've got New York Times reports,

0:53:260:53:27

"McCarthy asserts he has a new red link to army."

0:53:270:53:29

Quote, "Senator mccarthy charged today that the army

0:53:290:53:31

"now employs a woman in its code room

0:53:310:53:33

"who was, and still may be,

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an active communist," unquote.

0:53:350:53:36

Front page of The New York Times. Three days ago.

0:53:360:53:38

WERSHBA: No sooner is he done chastising the other committee members

0:53:380:53:41

for wanting to push it to the afternoon,

0:53:410:53:43

then seven questions in, he ducks out.

0:53:430:53:45

FRIENDLY: He leaves.

0:53:450:53:46

It's all over the headlines all over the country.

0:53:460:53:48

MURROW: Eddie, get me copies

0:53:480:53:49

from any newspaper that printed anything

0:53:490:53:51

about that assertion. Absolutely.|

0:53:510:53:53

FRIENDLY: Get The Cincinnati Enquirer, all of them.

0:53:530:53:55

Have a stack for the show.

0:53:550:53:56

Couple other pieces I think we should include.

0:53:560:53:58

The fact that there's three Annie Lee Mosses in the phone book.

0:53:580:54:01

There are two Robert Halls.

0:54:010:54:03

One's coloured, one's white.

0:54:030:54:04

WILLIAMS: Charlie said we have some footage of the empty chair.

0:54:040:54:07

That says it all. That picture of McCarthy not...

0:54:070:54:10

McCarthy leaving the hearing after seven questions,

0:54:100:54:12

and then we'll cut to the shot of the chair.

0:54:120:54:15

All right, so to that end...

0:54:150:54:16

Excuse me, fellas. Mr Murrow.

0:54:160:54:19

McCarthy wants April 6th.

0:54:190:54:22

Thank you, Natalie.

0:54:240:54:25

Fine. If Charlie shoots it, we get to see it first.

0:54:290:54:32

We should ask. We should offer.

0:54:320:54:33

What the hell could McCarthy possibly do?

0:54:330:54:36

Is he gonna debate himself? We just used his words.

0:54:360:54:38

Can't he use Buckley?

0:54:380:54:39

We used the original transcripts.

0:54:390:54:41

Johnny, Johnny, we know what it's going to be.

0:54:410:54:43

He's going to come after me. There's nothing more he can do.

0:54:430:54:46

He's gonna bet that a senator trumps a newsman.

0:54:460:54:49

FRIENDLY: He'll lose.

0:54:490:54:51

Well, not if we're playing bridge.

0:54:510:54:53

KNOCK ON DOOR

0:54:530:54:54

Oh, I m sorry, guys.

0:54:540:54:55

Didn't mean to interrupt. FRIENDLY: Hey, don.

0:54:550:54:58

Uh, Ed, you have a minute?

0:54:580:54:59

Yes, Don, I ll be right there.

0:54:590:55:01

FRIENDLY: All right, boys.

0:55:010:55:02

WERSHBA: All right, playtime's over.

0:55:020:55:03

We have four days to do a 28-minute show.

0:55:030:55:06

MURROW: Sorry. Oh, that s all right, Ed.

0:55:060:55:09

Hi, Mary. Hello, Mr Hollenbeck.

0:55:090:55:10

Give us a moment, please, dear?

0:55:100:55:11

MARY: Certainly.

0:55:110:55:13

HOLLENBECK: Thank you, dear. Thank you.

0:55:140:55:17

I have to ask you something, Ed.

0:55:170:55:19

It's about O'Brian.

0:55:190:55:20

He doesn't matter. He's killing me.

0:55:200:55:22

Doesn't matter in the newsroom.

0:55:220:55:23

It's not just him. We ought to let that guy have it.

0:55:230:55:25

We have to expose O'Brian.

0:55:250:55:26

I will not take on McCarthy and Hearst.

0:55:260:55:28

I can't defeat them both.

0:55:280:55:30

Just don't read the papers.

0:55:300:55:32

Or don't read O'Brian, anyway.

0:55:320:55:35

OK.

0:55:380:55:40

I guess not.

0:55:400:55:42

I'm sorry, Don.

0:55:420:55:43

Although Miss Moss offered to testify...

0:55:560:55:58

Senator Mundt, South Dakota.

0:55:580:56:00

...Senator McCarthy suggested that she was too sick...

0:56:000:56:02

Mr Cohn wanted to know about Mrs Moss's connection...

0:56:020:56:04

McCARTHY: Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth,

0:56:040:56:07

the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,

0:56:070:56:08

so help you God?

0:56:080:56:10

COHN: May we get your full name for the record, please?

0:56:130:56:16

Annie Lee Moss.

0:56:160:56:18

M-o-s-s?

0:56:180:56:20

That's right.

0:56:200:56:21

McCARTHY: Mrs Moss, let me say for the record,

0:56:210:56:23

for your information,

0:56:230:56:24

for the information of your counsel,

0:56:240:56:26

that you are not here because...

0:56:260:56:29

you are considered important in the communist apparatus.

0:56:290:56:34

We have the testimony that you are a...

0:56:340:56:37

have been a communist.

0:56:370:56:39

We are rather curious, however, to know that

0:56:390:56:41

how you suddenly, uh, were shifted from,

0:56:410:56:45

uh, a worker in a cafeteria to the code room.

0:56:450:56:50

In other words,

0:56:500:56:51

I am today much more interested

0:56:510:56:54

in the handling of your case by your superiors

0:56:540:56:59

than in your own personal activities.

0:56:590:57:01

However, counsel will question you

0:57:010:57:04

about your own activities also.

0:57:040:57:05

MAN: Uh, Mr Chairman...

0:57:050:57:07

We will not hear from counsel.

0:57:070:57:09

You have been told what the rule is.

0:57:090:57:11

If you have anything to say, say it through your client.

0:57:110:57:14

OK, then.

0:57:170:57:19

COHN: Did you begin work at the general accounting office in,

0:57:190:57:22

uh, 1945?

0:57:220:57:23

Yes, sir.

0:57:230:57:25

And, uh, prior to that time,

0:57:250:57:27

had you been a cafeteria worker?

0:57:270:57:29

Yes, I had.

0:57:290:57:30

I see.

0:57:300:57:31

Uh, while in the Pentagon, since 1950,

0:57:310:57:35

have you had any connections with coded messages?

0:57:350:57:38

Have you ever handled coded messages?

0:57:380:57:41

No more than to transmit 'em.

0:57:410:57:43

Pardon me?

0:57:430:57:44

No more than to transmit the message.

0:57:440:57:46

Than to transmit them? Mm-hmm.

0:57:460:57:47

Did you transmit codes?

0:57:470:57:48

Receive or to transmit messages was all I had to do.

0:57:480:57:51

And then the courtroom,

0:57:510:57:52

I've never been into a courtroom in my life.

0:57:520:57:54

McCARTHY: Do you know the, uh... type of classification...?

0:57:540:57:58

Do you know if they were secret, top-secret, confidential?

0:57:580:58:01

No, sir.

0:58:010:58:03

Other words, you wouldn't know

0:58:030:58:04

the degree of classification?

0:58:040:58:06

No, sir. I see.

0:58:060:58:07

HE CLEARS THROAT

0:58:070:58:08

I'm afraid I'm going to have to excuse myself,

0:58:080:58:11

I've got, uh,

0:58:110:58:12

a rather important appointment tonight,

0:58:120:58:15

which I've got to work on right now,

0:58:150:58:17

and I wonder if, Senator Mundt,

0:58:170:58:19

you would take over as chairman.

0:58:190:58:23

Chairman, uh... MUNDT: Cohn?

0:58:250:58:27

..I have no further questions of this witness at this time.

0:58:270:58:30

I can say this, we have the testimony

0:58:300:58:32

of Mrs Markward, the undercover agent for the FBI,

0:58:320:58:35

stating that Annie Lee Moss was a member,

0:58:350:58:37

a due-paying member of the Communist Party,

0:58:370:58:40

uh, the Northeast Club of the Communist Party.

0:58:400:58:42

We have corroboration of that testimony

0:58:420:58:45

by another witness,

0:58:450:58:47

who was called before the committee

0:58:470:58:48

and gave a sworn statement to the effect

0:58:480:58:50

that she also knew Mrs Moss

0:58:500:58:52

as a member of the Northeast Club of the Communist Party.

0:58:520:58:56

She's already lost her job.

0:58:560:58:57

She's been suspended because of this action.

0:58:570:59:00

I'm not defending her.

0:59:000:59:01

If she's a communist, I want her exposed.

0:59:010:59:04

But to make these statements

0:59:040:59:05

as we've got corroborating evidence

0:59:050:59:07

that she is a communist,

0:59:070:59:09

under these circumstances, I think she's entitled

0:59:090:59:12

to have it produced here in her presence

0:59:120:59:14

and let the public know about it

0:59:140:59:16

and let her know about it.

0:59:160:59:18

APPLAUSE

0:59:180:59:21

McCLELLAN: I don't like to try people by hearsay evidence.

0:59:210:59:25

I'd like to get the witnesses here and try them...

0:59:250:59:28

APPLAUSE

0:59:280:59:29

...by testimony under oath.

0:59:290:59:31

MUNDT: The chair will rule that the comment of Mr Cohn

0:59:310:59:35

be stricken from the record.

0:59:350:59:37

Well, I didn't ask that. Mr Chairman.

0:59:370:59:39

MUNDT: ...Whether we should try to produce a witness in public

0:59:390:59:42

because the FBI may have her undercover,

0:59:420:59:44

and we don t want to...

0:59:440:59:46

You can't strike these statements made by counsel here

0:59:460:59:48

as to evidence that we're having and withholding.

0:59:480:59:51

You cannot strike that from the press,

0:59:510:59:54

nor from the public mind once it's planted there.

0:59:540:59:56

That's the... that is the, uh...

0:59:561:00:00

evil of it.

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I don't think it's fair to a witness,

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to a citizen of this country, to bring 'em up here

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and cross-examine 'em, then when they get through, say,

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"The FBI has got something on you that condemns you."

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MUNDT: The chair agrees...

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It is not sworn testimony,

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it's convicting people by rumour and hearsay and innuendo.

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APPLAUSE

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You will notice

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that neither Senator McClellan or Senator Symington,

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nor this reporter,

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know or claim that Mrs Moss was or is a communist.

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Their claim was simply that she had the right

1:00:291:00:31

to meet her accusers face to face.

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TYPEWRITER CLACKS

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MURROW: 'One month ago tonight,

1:00:471:00:49

'we presented a report on Senator Joseph R McCarthy.

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'We labeled it as controversial.

1:00:521:00:54

'Most of that report

1:00:541:00:55

'consisted of words and pictures of the senator.

1:00:551:00:58

'At that time we said,

1:00:581:01:00

'if the senator believes

1:01:001:01:01

'we have done violence to his words or pictures,

1:01:011:01:04

'if he desires to speak, to answer himself,

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'an opportunity would be afforded him on this programme.

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'The senator sought the opportunity, asked for a delay of three weeks'

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because he said he was very busy,

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and he wished adequate time to prepare his reply. We agreed.

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We placed no restrictions on the manner or method

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of the presentation of his reply,

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and we suggested that we would not take time

1:01:231:01:26

to comment on this particular programme.

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Here now is Senator Joseph R McCarthy,

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Junior Senator from Wisconsin.

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McCARTHY (OVER SPEAKERS): Uh, good evening.

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Mr Edward R Murrow, educational director

1:01:351:01:38

of the Columbia Broadcasting System,

1:01:381:01:41

devoted his programme to an attack on the work

1:01:411:01:44

of the United States Senate investigating committee,

1:01:441:01:46

and on me personally as its chairman.

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Now, over the past four years,

1:01:491:01:51

he has made repeated attacks upon me

1:01:511:01:53

and those fighting communists.

1:01:531:01:56

Now, of course, neither Joe McCarthy,

1:01:561:01:58

nor Edward R Murrow,

1:01:581:02:00

is of any great importance as individuals.

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We are only important in our relation

1:02:031:02:06

to the great struggle

1:02:061:02:07

to preserve our American liberties.

1:02:071:02:10

Now, ordinarily...

1:02:101:02:11

ordinarily, I would not take time out

1:02:111:02:13

from the important work at hand to answer Murrow.

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However, in this case, I feel justified in doing so

1:02:171:02:20

because Murrow is the symbol, the leader,

1:02:201:02:24

and the cleverest of the jackal pack,

1:02:241:02:27

which is always found

1:02:271:02:28

at the throat of anyone who dares to expose

1:02:281:02:31

individual communists and traitors.

1:02:311:02:34

And I am compelled by the facts

1:02:341:02:37

to say to you that Mr Edward R Murrow,

1:02:371:02:39

as far back as 20 years ago,

1:02:391:02:43

was engaged in propaganda for communist causes.

1:02:431:02:47

For example, the Institute of International Education,

1:02:471:02:50

of which he was the acting director,

1:02:501:02:53

was chosen to act as a representative

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by a Soviet agency to do a job

1:02:561:03:00

which would normally be done by the Russian secret police.

1:03:001:03:05

Now, Mr Murrow, by his own admission, was a member of the IWW.

1:03:051:03:08

That's the Industrial Workers of the World,

1:03:081:03:11

a terrorist organisation cited as subversive

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by an Attorney General of the United States.

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Now, Mr Murrow said on this programme...

1:03:171:03:19

and I quote,

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he said, "The actions of the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

1:03:201:03:25

"have given considerable comfort to the enemy."

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That is the language of our statute of treason,

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rather strong language.

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If I am giving comfort to our enemies,

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I ought not to be in the Senate.

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If on the other hand,

1:03:401:03:41

Mr Murrow is giving comfort to our enemies,

1:03:411:03:44

he ought not to be brought into the homes

1:03:441:03:47

of millions of Americans

1:03:471:03:49

by the Columbia Broadcasting System.

1:03:491:03:52

And I want to assure you that I will not be deterred

1:03:521:03:56

by the attacks of the Murrows, the Lattimores, the Fosters,

1:03:561:04:03

The Daily Worker, or the Communist Party itself.

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And I make no claim to leadership.

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In complete humility,

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I do ask you and every American who loves this country

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to join with me.

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MAN: Everyone talks about the weather.

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Wherever you look on America's modern farms,

1:04:541:04:57

aluminum is on the job,

1:04:571:04:59

helping the farmer do something about the weather.

1:04:591:05:02

Aluminum for the farm is one more example of how ALCOA,

1:05:021:05:05

since 1888, has continued to pioneer

1:05:051:05:09

new uses for this vital metal.

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New uses of aluminum that mean better farms

1:05:111:05:14

and better farming.

1:05:141:05:15

The aluminum from the nation's first and leading producer,

1:05:151:05:20

ALCOA,

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Aluminum Company Of America.

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Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared on this programme

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to correct any errors

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he might have thought we made in our report of March 9th.

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Since he made no reference

1:05:301:05:31

to any statements of fact that we made,

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we must conclude that he found no errors of fact.

1:05:331:05:37

He proved again that anyone who exposes him,

1:05:371:05:39

anyone who does not share his hysterical disregard

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for decency and human dignity

1:05:421:05:44

and the rights guaranteed by the constitution,

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must be either a communist or a fellow traveller.

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I fully expected this treatment.

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The senator added this reporter's name

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to a long list of individuals and institutions

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he has accused of serving the communist cause.

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His proposition is very simple:

1:05:591:06:01

anyone who criticises or opposes Senator McCarthy's methods

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must be a communist.

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And if that be true,

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there are an awful lot of communists in this country.

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For the record, let's consider briefly

1:06:111:06:13

some of the senator's charges.

1:06:131:06:15

He claimed, but offered no proof,

1:06:151:06:17

that I had been a member of the Industrial Workers of the World.

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That is false.

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I was never a member of the IWW, never applied for membership.

1:06:221:06:26

The senator charged that Professor Harold Laski,

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a British scholar and politician, dedicated a book to me.

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That's true.

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He is dead.

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He was a socialist. I am not.

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He was one of those civilised individuals who did not insist

1:06:371:06:40

upon agreement with his political principles

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as a pre-condition for conversation or friendship.

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I do not agree with his political ideas.

1:06:451:06:49

Laski, as he makes clear in the introduction,

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dedicated the book to me

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not because of political agreement,

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but because he held

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my wartime broadcasts from London in high regard,

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and the dedication so reads.

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I believed 20 years ago and I believe today

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that mature Americans can engage in conversation and controversy,

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the clash of ideas,

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with communists anywhere in the world

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without becoming contaminated or converted.

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I believe that our faith,

1:07:141:07:16

our conviction, our determination,

1:07:161:07:18

are stronger than theirs,

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and that we can compete, and successfully,

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not only in the area of bombs, but in the area of ideas.

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I have worked for CBS for more than 19 years.

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The company has subscribed fully

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to my integrity and responsibility

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as a broadcaster and as a loyal American.

1:07:361:07:38

I require no lectures

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from the Junior Senator from Wisconsin

1:07:401:07:42

as to the dangers or terrors of communism.

1:07:421:07:45

Having searched my conscience and my files,

1:07:451:07:48

I cannot contend that I have always been right or wise,

1:07:481:07:51

but I have attempted to pursue the truth with some diligence

1:07:511:07:53

and to report it.

1:07:531:07:55

Even though, as in this case,

1:07:551:07:56

I had been warned in advance that I would be subjected

1:07:561:07:59

to the attentions of Senator McCarthy.

1:07:591:08:02

We shall hope to deal with matters

1:08:021:08:04

of more vital interest to the country next week.

1:08:041:08:07

Good night, and good luck.

1:08:071:08:09

ZOUSMER: "In the last analysis, the senator was perched

1:08:151:08:18

"on the television high dive

1:08:181:08:19

"and all prepared to make a resounding splash.

1:08:191:08:21

"He jumped beautifully, but he neglected

1:08:211:08:23

"to check first where he was going going to land.

1:08:231:08:25

"It must have been something of a shock

1:08:251:08:27

"to discover that Mr Murrow

1:08:271:08:29

"had drained the water out of the pool."

1:08:291:08:31

Is that The Times - Gould?

1:08:311:08:33

Yeah, Jack Gould at The Times.

1:08:331:08:34

Wow, he's a hell of a writer.

1:08:341:08:36

Hire him. If we could afford him!

1:08:361:08:38

Stan's got a public opinion...

1:08:381:08:39

The Senate's investigating McCarthy.

1:08:391:08:41

..What?

1:08:411:08:43

The Army's charging that McCarthy and Cohn

1:08:431:08:45

exercised undue pressure to get

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preferential treatment for Schine. Who's the source? >

1:08:471:08:49

It's unimpeachable.

1:08:491:08:50

You have a second source?

1:08:501:08:52

There's not a second source but this is coming out on the wire in 2 hours.

1:08:521:08:54

Who's heading the investigation?

1:08:541:08:56

Well, it's not gonna be McCarthy!

1:08:561:08:59

What happened?

1:08:591:08:59

Call The Washington Post. Get a second source.

1:08:591:09:01

Hey, it's Palmer Williams for Jack Thompson.

1:09:011:09:03

The senate's investigating McCarthy.

1:09:031:09:05

There is an added bit of comedy to this story.

1:09:051:09:08

The committee cannot convene for several days because McCarthy

1:09:081:09:12

has a slight case of laryngitis... REPORTERS: Aw!

1:09:121:09:14

..and he must recover in the desert air of Arizona.

1:09:141:09:17

Aw! Aw!

1:09:171:09:19

But stevens is going after him,

1:09:191:09:20

and it looks like Joe Welch. Yeah?

1:09:201:09:23

They're gonna allow each side to call witnesses

1:09:231:09:25

and be privy to other testimony.

1:09:251:09:27

SCOTT: Hey, Fred, can we start the meeting when I get back?

1:09:271:09:30

We're gonna go talk to Thompson.

1:09:301:09:31

(QUIETLY) No. Thanks, Jack. Bye.

1:09:331:09:35

Well, Freddy, we're a hit.

1:09:351:09:38

Right up there with howdy-doody, huh?

1:09:381:09:40

AARON: Can I have an outside line, please?

1:09:401:09:45

< Uh, Murray Hill... 3-1-2-7-6.

1:09:461:09:50

# Somewhere there's music

1:09:541:10:02

# How faint the tune... #

1:10:031:10:10

"The fact of newscaster Don Hollenbeck s suicide yesterday

1:10:101:10:13

"does not remove from the record

1:10:131:10:15

"the peculiar history of the leftist slanting of the news

1:10:151:10:18

"indulged consistently by the Columbia Broadcasting System.

1:10:181:10:23

"Hollenbeck was what most astute students

1:10:231:10:25

"of CBS's strange and questionable new methods

1:10:251:10:28

"considered typical of its newscasters.

1:10:281:10:32

"By Jack O'Brian."

1:10:321:10:34

# ..When love is far away too

1:10:341:10:40

# Till it comes true

1:10:401:10:47

# That you love me

1:10:481:10:52

# As I love you

1:10:521:10:56

# Somewhere there's music

1:10:581:11:04

# It's where you are

1:11:051:11:11

# Somewhere there's heaven

1:11:141:11:18

# How near

1:11:201:11:23

# How far

1:11:231:11:26

# The darkest night

1:11:281:11:31

# Would shine if you

1:11:311:11:36

# Would come to me soon

1:11:361:11:43

# Until you will

1:11:431:11:46

# How still my heart

1:11:461:11:50

# How high

1:11:501:11:54

# The moon. #

1:11:541:12:02

SINGER: Oh, yeah. I like it like that.

1:12:051:12:08

MURROW: 'One of the best programmes I ever heard

1:12:081:12:10

'was called CBS Views The Press.'

1:12:101:12:13

A great many people liked it. Some didn't.

1:12:131:12:15

But no-one ever called it anything but honest.

1:12:151:12:18

It was the work of an honest reporter,

1:12:181:12:21

Don Hollenbeck.

1:12:211:12:23

He also worked occasionally on See It Now.

1:12:231:12:26

He did the 11 P.M. news over some of these stations.

1:12:261:12:29

He had been sick lately, and he died this morning.

1:12:291:12:32

The police said it was suicide.

1:12:321:12:35

Gas.

1:12:351:12:36

Not much of an obit,

1:12:361:12:38

but at least we got our facts straight,

1:12:381:12:41

and it was brief.

1:12:411:12:43

And that's all Don Hollenbeck would have asked.

1:12:431:12:45

Good night, and good luck.

1:12:451:12:49

WERSHBA: I gotta be in Philadelphia this morning.

1:12:531:12:56

What time is your train?

1:12:561:12:58

Ooh... eight.

1:12:581:13:00

Charlie going with you?

1:13:001:13:03

Uh-huh.

1:13:031:13:05

Here's a thought...

1:13:121:13:14

what if we're wrong?

1:13:141:13:17

We're not wrong.

1:13:191:13:21

I'm not gonna look back...

1:13:211:13:25

and say we protected the wrong side?

1:13:251:13:27

Protected them from what?

1:13:291:13:31

In the name of what? What would we be preserving?

1:13:311:13:36

Argument could be made, for the greater good.

1:13:371:13:41

Not once you give it all away.

1:13:411:13:42

It's no good then.

1:13:421:13:44

Hm. It's just a thought.

1:13:441:13:47

WELCH: Senator, may we not drop this?

1:13:541:13:56

We know he belonged to the Lawyers Guild.

1:13:561:13:57

Mr Cohn nods his head at me.

1:13:571:14:00

I did you, I think, no personal injury, Mr Cohn.

1:14:001:14:05

No, sir.

1:14:051:14:06

I meant to do you no personal injury.

1:14:061:14:08

No.

1:14:081:14:09

And if I did, I beg your pardon.

1:14:091:14:11

Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator.

1:14:111:14:14

McCARTHY: Well, let's...

1:14:141:14:16

You've done enough.

1:14:161:14:17

Have you no sense of decency, sir?

1:14:171:14:20

At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

1:14:201:14:24

I know this hurts you, Mr Welch.

1:14:241:14:27

WELCH: Senator, I think it hurts you too, sir.

1:14:271:14:30

McCARTHY: I'd like to finish this.

1:14:301:14:31

WELCH: Have you some private reservation when you take the oath

1:14:311:14:34

that you will tell the whole truth

1:14:341:14:37

that lets you be the judge of what you will testify to?

1:14:371:14:40

The answer is there's no reservation about telling the whole truth.

1:14:401:14:42

Thank you, sir.

1:14:421:14:44

Then tell us who delivered the documents to you.

1:14:441:14:47

WOMAN (ON TV): 'I don't want to mean

1:14:471:14:49

'that this new fashion is not... is not chic.

1:14:491:14:51

'I think is just no good for me.'

1:14:511:14:54

Uh, not for you.

1:14:541:14:56

Uh, Milko, anything you care to say on that subject?

1:14:561:14:59

MAN: I think no comment.

1:14:591:15:01

MILLIE: It's gotta be here.

1:15:031:15:05

SHIRLEY: If you can't find it, I can't write about it. Check again.

1:15:051:15:08

Charlie said he dropped it off.

1:15:081:15:09

Shirley, can I see you a minute?

1:15:091:15:11

I gotta call you back.

1:15:111:15:13

Joe, you too.

1:15:131:15:15

Close the door.

1:15:231:15:25

Have a seat.

1:15:291:15:31

How are you?

1:15:331:15:35

Fine, thank you. Swell. Yeah.

1:15:351:15:37

Uh, you both are aware that there's a policy here at CBS

1:15:371:15:40

that no two employees can be married.

1:15:401:15:43

I want to ask you both a question, but I don't want you to answer it.

1:15:441:15:48

I want you to just consider it.

1:15:481:15:51

I know you two are married.

1:15:511:15:54

Everyone knows.

1:15:541:15:56

That's not my question.

1:15:561:15:58

Um, in the next few weeks I have to lay off a couple of people.

1:15:581:16:01

We're making some significant cuts across the board.

1:16:011:16:04

I wanted you to know that

1:16:041:16:07

because you could save someone else being fired.

1:16:071:16:10

I'm asking you to, uh, consider

1:16:111:16:14

making this decision a little easier.

1:16:141:16:16

I don't need an answer now.

1:16:171:16:20

Just... think about it.

1:16:201:16:23

OK.

1:16:241:16:26

Well, Joe... Well?

1:16:361:16:38

I'm sure gonna miss you around here.

1:16:381:16:40

Yeah, I'll pack my things.

1:16:401:16:42

I think it's for the best.

1:16:441:16:46

Well, we'll find out.

1:16:461:16:48

Miss Wershba.

1:16:491:16:51

Everybody knew!

1:16:521:16:55

Hm.

1:16:571:16:58

MURROW: Natalie, did he say what it was about?

1:17:031:17:06

NATALIE: No, Mr Murrow, just that he wanted to talk to you in his office.

1:17:061:17:10

Uh-oh.

1:17:231:17:25

The problem isn't simply that you've lost your sponsor.

1:17:281:17:31

With ALCOA, See It Now still loses money...

1:17:311:17:33

FRIENDLY: Mr Paley, the fee is 50,000.

1:17:331:17:35

Last week's episode we did for less than 50,000...

1:17:351:17:37

Fred, you're speaking beyond your competence.

1:17:371:17:39

We'll find another sponsor.

1:17:391:17:40

We can certainly find someone who wants to...

1:17:401:17:42

64,000 Question brings in over 80,000 in sponsors,

1:17:421:17:45

and it costs one third of what you do.

1:17:451:17:47

Ed, I ve got Tuesday night programming that's number one.

1:17:471:17:50

People want to enjoy themselves. They don't want a civics lesson.

1:17:501:17:54

MURROW: What do YOU want, Bill?

1:17:541:17:55

I don't wanna get a constant stomach ache

1:17:551:17:57

every time you take on a controversial subject.

1:17:571:17:59

I'm afraid that's the price you have to be willing to pay.

1:18:011:18:04

Let's walk very carefully through these next few moments.

1:18:041:18:09

The content of what we're doing is more important

1:18:091:18:10

than what some guy in Cincinnati...

1:18:101:18:13

What you re doing, Ed. Not me. Not Frank Stanton, you.

1:18:131:18:15

CBS News, See It Now, all belong to you, Bill.

1:18:151:18:19

You wouldn't know it.

1:18:191:18:21

What is it you want? Credit?

1:18:221:18:24

I never censored a single programme.

1:18:241:18:27

I hold on to affiliates who wanted entertainment from us.

1:18:271:18:32

I fight to keep the licence

1:18:321:18:34

with the very same politicians that you were bringing down,

1:18:341:18:38

and I never, never said no to you.

1:18:381:18:41

Never.

1:18:411:18:43

I would argue that we have done very well by one another.

1:18:431:18:46

I would argue that this network...

1:18:471:18:50

is defined by what the news department has accomplished.

1:18:501:18:54

And I would also argue that never saying no

1:18:541:18:56

is not the same as not censoring.

1:18:561:18:58

Really? You should teach journalism.

1:18:581:19:00

You and Mr Friendly.

1:19:001:19:01

Let me ask you this...

1:19:061:19:09

why didn't you correct McCarthy

1:19:091:19:11

when he said that Alger Hiss was convicted of treason?

1:19:111:19:14

He was only convicted of perjury.

1:19:141:19:16

You corrected everything else.

1:19:161:19:18

Did you not want the appearance of defending a known communist?

1:19:181:19:21

I would argue that everyone censors, including you.

1:19:211:19:26

What do you want to do, Bill?

1:19:281:19:31

I'm taking your programme from a half an hour to an hour.

1:19:331:19:37

And it won't be a weekly programme and it won't be Tuesday nights.

1:19:371:19:40

When would it be?

1:19:401:19:43

Sunday afternoons.

1:19:431:19:45

How many episodes?

1:19:461:19:48

Five.

1:19:481:19:50

Why don't you just fire me, Bill?

1:19:511:19:54

I don't think it's what either of us wants.

1:19:541:19:57

You owe me five shows.

1:19:591:20:02

MURROW: You won't like the subject matter.

1:20:101:20:12

Probably not.

1:20:121:20:14

Fred, I ll need you for a moment.

1:20:141:20:16

FRIENDLY: Thank you, Mary.

1:20:291:20:30

MARY: Good night, Mr Friendly.

1:20:301:20:32

He wants me to lay a few people off.

1:20:371:20:39

I'm sure he does.

1:20:391:20:42

Let's do our first show about the downfall of television.

1:20:421:20:45

Senate's going to vote to censor McCarthy tomorrow.

1:20:471:20:49

Probably.

1:20:491:20:51

And then what happens?

1:20:511:20:52

He sits in the back row.

1:20:521:20:53

Right. They keep him in the senate.

1:20:531:20:56

They don't kick him out.

1:20:561:20:57

No, he stays.

1:20:571:20:59

Well, we might as well go down swinging.

1:21:071:21:10

Did you know the most trusted man in America is Milton Berle?

1:21:141:21:17

See? You should have worn a dress.

1:21:171:21:19

-EISENHOWER:

-...They're more sophisticated...

1:21:191:21:21

How does a scotch sound?

1:21:211:21:23

-..We love America...

-Scotch sounds good.

1:21:231:21:25

-..Why are we proud...?

-Did you know Joe and Shirley were married?

1:21:251:21:27

-Sure.

-..We are proud, first of all

1:21:271:21:29

because from the beginning of this nation,

1:21:291:21:31

a man can walk upright.

1:21:311:21:34

No matter who he is or who she is,

1:21:351:21:38

he can walk upright and meet his friend or his enemy.

1:21:381:21:43

And he does not fear

1:21:431:21:44

that because that enemy may be a position in great power,

1:21:441:21:49

that he can be suddenly thrown in jail

1:21:491:21:55

to rot there without charges

1:21:551:21:57

and with no recourse to justice.

1:21:571:22:01

We have the habeas corpus act, and we respect it...

1:22:011:22:04

I began by saying

1:22:041:22:06

that our history will be what we make it.

1:22:061:22:09

If we go on as we are, then history will take its revenge,

1:22:091:22:13

and retribution will not limp in catching up with us.

1:22:131:22:17

Just once in a while,

1:22:171:22:19

let us exalt the importance of ideas and information.

1:22:191:22:22

Let us dream to the extent of saying

1:22:221:22:25

that on a given Sunday night,

1:22:251:22:27

a time normally occupied by Ed Sullivan

1:22:271:22:27

is given over to a clinical survey

1:22:271:22:30

on the state of American education.

1:22:301:22:32

And a week or two later, a time normally used by Steve Allen

1:22:321:22:36

is devoted to a thorough-going study

1:22:361:22:38

of American policy in the Middle East.

1:22:381:22:41

Would the corporate image of their respective sponsors be damaged?

1:22:411:22:44

Would the shareholders rise up in their wrath and complain?

1:22:441:22:48

Would anything happen other than a few million people

1:22:481:22:51

would have received a little illumination on subjects

1:22:511:22:54

that may well determine the future of this country

1:22:541:22:56

and therefore the future of the corporations?

1:22:561:22:59

To those who say, "People wouldn't look. They wouldn't be interested.

1:22:591:23:02

"They re too complacent, indifferent and insulated,"

1:23:021:23:05

I can only reply: there is, in one reporter s opinion,

1:23:051:23:09

considerable evidence against that contention.

1:23:091:23:13

But even if they are right, what have they got to lose?

1:23:131:23:16

Because if they are right,

1:23:161:23:18

and this instrument is good for nothing

1:23:181:23:20

but to entertain, amuse and insulate,

1:23:201:23:23

then the tube is flickering now,

1:23:231:23:25

and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost.

1:23:251:23:29

This instrument can teach.

1:23:291:23:31

It can illuminate, and, yes, it can even inspire.

1:23:311:23:34

But it can do so only to the extent

1:23:341:23:36

that humans are determined to use it towards those ends.

1:23:361:23:39

Otherwise, it is merely wires and lights in a box.

1:23:401:23:45

Good night, and good luck.

1:23:481:23:51

FOOTSTEPS DEPARTING

1:23:541:23:56

# It's quarter to three

1:24:121:24:16

# There's no one in the place

1:24:161:24:19

# Except you and me

1:24:191:24:23

# So set 'em up, Joe

1:24:251:24:29

# I've got a little story

1:24:291:24:33

# You oughta know

1:24:331:24:37

# We're drinkin', my friend

1:24:381:24:42

# Till the end

1:24:431:24:45

# Of a brief episode

1:24:451:24:49

# Make it one for my baby

1:24:511:24:56

# And one more for the road

1:24:561:25:01

# That long, long

1:25:041:25:11

# Road. #

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