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ELEGANT, DREAMY JAZZ PLAYS | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
In 1935, Ed Murrow began his career with CBS. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
When World War II broke out, it was his voice | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
that brought the Battle of Britain home to us | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
through his This Is London radio series. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
He started with us all, many of us here tonight, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
when television was in its infancy, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
with the news documentary show See It Now. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
He threw stones at giants. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Segregation, exploitation of migrant workers, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
apartheid, J Edgar Hoover, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
not the least of which, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
his historical fight with Senator McCarthy. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
He is the host of our enormously popular show Person To Person. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
And tonight, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
he is here with his son Casey, wife Janet, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
and all of you who he's worked with, inspired, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
lectured and taught. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
the Radio-Television News Directors | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Association & Foundation welcomes | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Mr Edward R Murrow. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
This might just do nobody any good. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
At the end of this discourse, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
a few people may accuse this reporter | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
of fouling his own comfortable nest, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
and your organisation may be accused | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
of having given hospitality | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
to heretical and even dangerous ideas. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
But the elaborate structure of networks, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
advertising agencies and sponsors | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
will not be shaken or altered. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
It is my desire, if not my duty, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
to try to talk to you journeymen with some candour | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
about what is happening to radio and television. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
And if what I say is responsible, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
I alone am responsible for the saying of it. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Our history will be what we make of it. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
And if there are any historians about 50 or 100 years from now, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
and there should be preserved the kinescopes | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
of one week of all three networks, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
they will there find, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
recorded in black and white and in colour, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
from the realities of the world in which we live. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
We are currently wealthy, fat, comfortable and complacent. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
We have a built-in allergy | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
to unpleasant or disturbing information. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Our mass media reflect this. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
But unless we get up off our fat surpluses | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
and recognise that television in the main | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
is being used to distract, delude, amuse and insulate us, | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
then television and those who finance it, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
those who look at it and those who work at it, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
may see a totally different picture too late. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
MUSIC: "TV Is The Thing This Year" by Dianne Reeves | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
# If you wanna have fun come home with me | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
# You can stay all night and play with my TV | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
# TV is the thing this year | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
# TV is the thing this year | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
# Radio was great but it's out-of-date | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
# TV is the thing this year | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
# Last night I was watchin' ol' Tom Mix | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
# My TV broke I was in a fix | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
# I got on the phone I called my man | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
# Said, "Get here, Daddy as fast as you can | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
# TV is the thing this year | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
# TV is the thing this year | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
# Radio was great but it's out-of-date | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
# TV is the thing this year. # | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Up until a year ago... - Millie. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
..he was typing with one finger. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
Millie, just the person I wanted to see. Come here. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
# Yeah TV is the thing this year... # | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
This needs to go to the top of the Roy Campanella piece. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
Gimme about a half an hour. Half an hour? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
No, I need it quicker than that. Can I get a cup of coffee first? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Please. Come on. Oh, get me a cup of coffee. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Mornin', Johnny. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
Oh, m... I have some new notes | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
that go with the Tito footage for Fred. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:20 | |
- Fred's not in for about an hour. - I already put 'em on his desk. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Can you just make sure that... he doesn't look at the film | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
until he reads the notes? Thank you. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Hey, Joe, Shirley. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
- Hey. - John. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
What's goin' on in here? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
JOE: What do you mean? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
Two attractive people alone in the copy room. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
Don't tell Paley, he'll fire me. Both of us, Shirley. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
We'll see. Rules are made to be broken. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
You can afford to say that. JOHN LAUGHS | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
QUIETLY: Let me see this. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
It's simply a loyalty oath. To CBS? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And to America. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
You promise to be a loyal American? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
All of the reporters have signed this. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Who are you promising this to? CBS, Paley? | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Fred signed it. Murrow signed it. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
Murrow signed it. Murrow signed it? Yeah. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
"Are you now or have you ever been...?" | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
I thought it was a joke, but there's a lot of pressure. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
"...that appear on the Attorney General's list | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
of subversive groups"? I don't know. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Let's think. What is it really saying? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Is it a civil-liberties issue or censorship? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
I'm simply stating to CBS that I'm not a communist. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
Murrow signed this? Yeah. And Fred and Stanton. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Well, maybe you should talk to Murrow. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
Maybe I should sign it. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
If you...if you don't sign this, are you and I a target? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
If I don't sign it, they'll fire me. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Sign it. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
Finally, we can tell everyone the truth. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
KEEFE (ON TV): If I could express it | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
in what's in my heart right now, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
I'd do it in the terms of the poet who once said: | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
"Ah, tis but a dainty flower I bring to you | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
"yes, tis but a violet glistening with dew | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
"but still in its heart there lie beauties concealed | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
"so in our heart | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
"our love for you | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
"lies unrevealed". | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
You know, I used to... | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
..pride myself on the idea that I was a bit... | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
tough. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Especially over the past... | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
18 or 19 months, when we've been kicked around | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
and bullwhipped and damned. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
I didn't think that... | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
..I could be touched very deeply... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
FRIENDLY: OK, that's enough. That's enough, Leo. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
How long is the piece? What's it at now, Millie? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
It's about four minutes now, but we can cut it down. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
PALMER: It can't stand alone, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
but it might be a nice companion piece. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
Let's go through this one more time. Palmer? | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Yep. Got a call from the office of Senator Morse this morning. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
Interested in setting up a debate, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
possibly with Senator Kerr, over some of the comments | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Benson made on last night's show. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
Secretary of Agriculture. I think that's a good idea. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Can they do it by this week? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
No, it would have to be two weeks at the earliest, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
depending on Morse's schedule. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
But, uh, still think it's a great idea. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Let's follow up on that. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
The "Hoover speaks on Benjamin Franklin" piece? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
Well, we re having better luck with Mr Benjamin Franklin | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
than we are with Mr Hoover. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:23 | |
It may progress better as a person-to-person. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
"At home with Ben Franklin." His electricity awards... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
ZOUSMER: We've got the footage. They need to contact him. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
FRIENDLY: See if you can get in touch with him | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
and get the shot, he wants to do the story. Joe? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Remember, Delbert Clark, no longer with us. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
FRIENDLY: New York Times? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
Right, our friend at The Times. WILLIAMS: When? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
This is yesterday morning. They're saying it's, uh... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
How old was he? 53. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Illness. Uh, sudden illness. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Home of a friend. No, it's not an obit piece. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Natalie, send some flowers over there from CBS news. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Couple things: "Case before the supreme court | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
"involving the constitutionality | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
"of a section of the internal security act | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
"provides for the deportation of any alien | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
"if he becomes a communist after entering this country." | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
No takers? WOMAN LAUGHS, MOCK SNORING | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
"McCarthy interrupting his wedding trip | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
"to take charge of the investigation | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
"of communist infiltration." | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
FRIENDLY: Natalie, send some flowers. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
Poor Mrs McCarthy. May I finish? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
It's national security. A real ladies' man. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
SCOTT: Well, they're in love. They're in love. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
FRIENDLY: We have no show for Tuesday, fellas. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
So get out there and make some news. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Rob a bank. Mug an old lady. Do something. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
You guys look at the Secretary Stevens footage? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Watch it all the way to the end. It's worth it. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Thank you, John. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
There's not much there. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
I can tie it to the "Eisenhower in the back of the train" piece. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
You ever spend any time in Detroit, Fred? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Not recently. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
There s a story here in The Detroit News, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
Dexter, Michigan. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
Kid named Milo Radulovich. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Italian? Irish. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Air Force kicked him out | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
because his dad read some Serbian newspaper. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
His dad a communist? I don't know. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Who brought the charges? Air Force. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Charges were in a sealed envelope. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Nobody saw them. Not even at the hearing? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
He was declared guilty without a trial | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
and told, if he wanted to keep his job, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
he had to denounce his father and his sister. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Thank you, Natalie. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
His sister? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
Yeah, he told them to take a hike. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
Let's send Joe and Charlie down there, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
see if he s any good on camera. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
Is he being brought before the Committee? | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
No. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
Then it's not McCarthy. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
Isn't it? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:28 | |
Milo Radulovich. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
WERSHBA: What happens to your children... | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
that is, your five-year-old and your five-month-old... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
..in terms of you? Yes, if I am being judged | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
on my relatives, if... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Are my children going to be asked to denounce me? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
Are they going to be judged | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
on what their father was labelled? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
Are they going to... | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
have to explain to their friends, et cetera, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
why their father is a security risk? | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
If...if...if the thing is let stand as... | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
as the first recommendation was sent out by the board, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
I see a chain reaction | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
that has no end to anybody for anybody. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
Well, that's new. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
I don't think you can call this a neutral piece. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
The other side's been represented well | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
for the last couple years. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:30 | |
We tried to talk to the Air Force. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
They haven't gone on the record. You just want to forego | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
the standards you've stuck to for 15 years? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
Both sides, no commentary. We all editorialise... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
I'm just identifying what you're both doing. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
We're giving them the information up front, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
and asking them to comment. Hold on, Fred. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
I've searched my conscience. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
I can't for the life of me find any justification for this. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
And I simply cannot accept that there are, on every story, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
two equal and logical sides to an argument. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
Call it editorialising if you'd like. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
It is editorialising, Ed. They'll have equal time. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Do you understand the position you're putting us in? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
We are all in this together. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
If the senate wants to investigate... | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
Do me this favour, Fred. Avoid any big speeches | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
about how we're all in a big boat together, OK? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Please don't insult me. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
I have to go back to Mr Paley, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
and Alcoa, who sponsors your show | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
and also happens to have some military contracts, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
and I have to tell them | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
that they're going to be in a bit of a tough bind | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
because of a beef you had with Joe McCarthy. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
We're not going at McCarthy. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
Well, you're starting the goddamn fire. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
NATALIE: Excuse me, gentlemen. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
Mr Friendly, there's a Colonel Anderson to see you. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Colonel? Yeah, he's in your office. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
How many? There's two of them. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
Maybe they liked the transcript and want to compliment us on it. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Excuse me. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
Go after Joe Kennedy. We'll pay for it. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
I've got a great story about Hoover. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Ah, well... You know how many Person To Persons | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
you're going to have to do to make up for this? | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Judy and her daughter Liza next week. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
No, no, no. You're interviewing Rin Tin Tin. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
I'll talk to Mr Paley. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Alcoa won't pay for the ads. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
And we probably won't either. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
But nobody'll stop you. How much are the ads? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Three thousand. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
I'll split it with Fred. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
He just won't have Christmas presents | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
for his kids this year. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
He s a Jew. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
Well, don't tell him that, he loves Christmas. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
FRIENDLY: To be clear, you did speak with the lawyers? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Yes, we did. And we read the transcript. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
We've not been allowed to see the footage. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
We're still shooting it. Charlie Mack is on a plane | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
from Dexter right now with the rest of the interview. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
We'll be going right down to the wire... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Your show airs tomorrow. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
How can we possibly approve and check the story | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
that you are running in the limited amount of time | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
you have given us? With all due respect, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
you have been invited to participate in this piece, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
not to approve this piece. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
We are going with the story | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
that says that the US Air Force | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
tried Milo Radulovich without one shred of evidence | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
and found him guilty of being a security risk without... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
And you, who also have not seen the evidence, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
are claiming he's not a security risk. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Wouldn't you guess | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
that the people who have seen the contents of that envelope... | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Who? ..might have a better idea | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
of what makes someone a danger to his country? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Who are these people, sir? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
Or should it be just you who decides? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Who are these people? Are they elected? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Are they appointed? Do they have an axe to grind? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
Is it you, sir? Or you, Colonel Jenkins? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Do you know the contents of that sealed envelope? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
Mr Friendly, we have been a friend and ally | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
of both Mr Murrow and CBS News for many years. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
The story you are going to run tomorrow is without merit. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
So before you take any steps that cannot be undone, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
I strongly urge you to reconsider your stand. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
These are very dangerous waters you are attempting to navigate. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
As a matter of fact, we had no hearing at all. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
We have had no day in court. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
In all the 32 years | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
that I have been a practicing attorney in Detroit, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
I have never witnessed | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
such a farce and travesty upon justice | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
as this thing has developed. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Now, this whole... Eddie, just take the first reel. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
Tell John I left five-seconds extra leader. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Five-seconds extra. I got it, I got it. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Palmer, where's Joe? Have you seen Joe? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
He's on his way to the control room. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
We're gonna have to do the voice-over live. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
Natalie, I need a booth with a live mic. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
It's there, already set. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
We didn't have time to sync it up. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
HEWITT: That's not what I asked for. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
It's front-loaded about five seconds. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
It's missing the voice-over on the last piece. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
Don, there's a commercial in the booth. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
What do you want me to do? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
Two minutes to air, fellas. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
There's not supposed to be a commercial. Get him out. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
You can't have a mic set up here. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
You go up and do it in the booth. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
Two and a half minutes on the Ed piece. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Ed, we've got three minutes on the bottom. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
HEWITT: Fellas, keep it down. It's a little loud. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Two minutes to air, fellas. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Charlie, let me borrow your lighter. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Thanks. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
WILLIAMS: I swapped those two pieces of parents on the end... | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
ZOUSMER: Well, as long as he talks fast. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
WILLIAMS: He will talk fast. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
We got the film. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Will it be ready? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
You bet. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
Funny thing, Freddy. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Every time you light a cigarette for me, I know you're lying. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
You know, it occurs to me | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
we might not get away with this one. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Ten seconds. You fellas ready? OK. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
Ready on camera one. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
FRIENDLY: Five, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
four, three, two... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
HEWITT: Pan, camera one. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Good evening. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
A few weeks ago, there occurred a few obscure notices | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
in the newspapers about a Lieutenant Milo Radulovich, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
a lieutenant in the Air Force reserves. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
And also, something about Air Force regulation 35-62. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
That is a regulation which states | 0:18:34 | 0:18:35 | |
that a man may be regarded as a security risk | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
if he has close and continuing association with communists | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
or people believed to have communist sympathies. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
OVER SPEAKERS: Lieutenant Radulovich was asked to resign in August. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
He declined. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
A board was called and heard his case. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
At the end, it was recommended | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
that he be severed from the Air Force, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
although it was also stated | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
that there was no question whatever | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
as to the lieutenant's loyalty. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
We propose to examine, insofar as we can, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
the case of Lieutenant Radulovich. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Our reporter, Joe Wershba, cameraman, Charlie Mack. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
WERSHBA: This is the town of Dexter, Michigan. Population 1,500. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
This statue is at the end... | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
WERSHBA CONTINUES IN THE BACKGROUND | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
What did the General tell you yesterday? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
It was a colonel, and there were two of them. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
That makes a general. They weren't too pleased. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
You're gonna get audited this year. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
Not me, you. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
I told them I didn't want to do the story. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
You always were yellow. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
Better than red. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
In ten seconds... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
This is the sister, Margaret Radulovich Fishman. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
She neither defends nor explains her political activities. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
I feel that my activities, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
well, be they what they may, or my political beliefs, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
are my own private affair. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
MILO: If, uh...? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Are my children going to be asked to, uh, denounce me? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Are they going to be judged | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
on what their father was labelled? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Are they going to, uh... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
have to explain to their friends, et cetera, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
why their father is a security risk? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
I see, absolutely, uh, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
that this is a chain reaction. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
If the thing is let stand as... | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
the first recommendation was sent out by the board, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
I see a chain reaction | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
that has no end to anybody, for anybody. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
MURROW: Perhaps you will permit me | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
to read a few sentences just at the end | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
because I would like to say rather precisely what I mean. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
We have told the Air Force that we will provide facilities | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
for any comment, criticism or corrections it may wish to make | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
in regard to the case of Milo Radulovich. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
We are unable to judge the charges | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
against the Lieutenant's father or sister | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
because neither we, nor you, nor they, nor the lawyers, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
nor the Lieutenant know precisely | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
what was contained in that manila envelope. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Was it hearsay, rumour, gossip, slander, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
or hard ascertainable facts | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
that could be backed by credible witnesses? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
We do not know. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
We believe the son | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
shall not bear the iniquity of the father. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Even though that iniquity be proved, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
and in this case it was not. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
But we believe, too, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
that this case illustrates the urgent need | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
for the armed forces to communicate more fully | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
than they have so far done, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
the procedures and regulations to be followed | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
in attempting to protect the national security | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
and the rights of the individual at the same time. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Whatever happens in this whole area | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
of the relationship between the individual and the state, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
we will do it ourselves. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
It cannot be blamed on Malenkov or Mao Tse-tung, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
or even our allies. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
And it seems to us, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
that is, Fred Friendly and myself, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
that this is a subject | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
that should be argued about endlessly. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
Good night, and good luck. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
And we're out. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
MUSIC: "I've Got My Eyes On You" by Dianne Reeves | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
# I've got | 0:22:14 | 0:22:20 | |
# My eyes on you | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
# So best beware | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
# Where you roam | 0:22:28 | 0:22:34 | |
# I've set | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
# My spies on you | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
# I'm checkin' on all you do | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
# From a to z | 0:22:55 | 0:23:02 | |
# So, darling | 0:23:03 | 0:23:09 | |
# Don't be wise | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
# Keep your eyes | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
# On | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
# Me. # | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
May I tell you something about yourself, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
as a member of the Person To Person audience? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Based on audience research studies, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
you are well above average in education and intelligence. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
Your interests are wide, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
from world affairs and science to sports and show business. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
And you have one characteristic | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
that's rather encouraging to me, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
and that's the fact | 0:23:52 | 0:23:53 | |
that you are not easily persuaded by advertising. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Now, the makers of Kent | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
considered all these characteristics | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
when they chose Mr Murrow's programme | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
to tell you about Kent. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Of all leading filter cigarettes, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Kent filters best. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Now, if you'll try Kent with that in mind, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
I think you'll agree with many, many other thinking people | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
who have changed to Kent. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
They find that it makes good sense to smoke Kent | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and good smoking too. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Did you get the change on that? OK. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Let's roll that... OK. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
No, no. You there? OK. We got it. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
ANNOUNCER(OVER SPEAKERS): Now back to Ed Murrow. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Not since the silent movies and the idols they produced | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
has Hollywood witnessed the sort of pilgrimage | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
that is now going on. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
Each day, oblivious to time, weather, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and the state of the world, sightseers head in the direction | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
of California's San Fernando Valley. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
For there, at the end of the tourist line, is Sherman Oaks, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
and the home Liberace has built for himself and his mother. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
This is the front, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
and nobody knows how many people have seen that view. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
This is the back of the house, and that's Liberace's bedroom. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Good evening, Lee. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:00 | |
(OVER PHONE) Good evening, Ed. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
What are you doing? | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
Well, I'm just dictating | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
my weekly syndicated newspaper column and... | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
on my trusty tape recorder here. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
I also am dictating a book. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
It's an inspirational book... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
What about you? Have you given much thought | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
to getting married and settling down? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
LIBERACE: Actually, I've given a lot of thought to marriage, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
but I don't believe in getting married | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
just for the sake of getting married. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
I want to someday find the perfect mate | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
and settle down to, what I hope will be, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
a marriage that will be blessed by faith | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
and will be a lasting union. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
In fact, I was reading | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
about lovely young Princess Margaret, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
and she's looking for her dream man too, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
and I hope she finds him someday. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Uh-huh. Well, Lee, thanks very much | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
for letting us come and visit you. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
It's been very pleasant. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
And will you say good night to the rest of your family for us? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
I certainly would. Thanks a lot. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Good night, Ed. Good night, Lee. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
Next week, we'll take you to Beverly Hills, California, | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
to the house of Mickey Rooney and his new bride. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Until then, good night, and good luck. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
MAN: Good show, Mr Murrow. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
NATALIE: Excuse me, Mr Murrow. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
When you have a moment, can you take a look at this | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
and sign it for me? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
Thank you. Oh, Dr Stanton wanted to know | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
if you could have a drink with him. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
When? Now. He's at the Pentagon Bar. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
I can't. What the hell is he doing there? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
I believe he's waiting for you. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Well, just call him, Natalie. That's fine. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Oppenheimer next week. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:52 | |
It's a good show, Ed. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
Hey, Don. Ed. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:55 | |
You're getting good at this. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
They're gonna think you like it. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
Heh. Pays the bills. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:01 | |
How are you, Don? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Ah, it's... | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
day-to-day. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Well, if she saw how good you look right now, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
she'd be back. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:11 | |
You tell her that if you see her, will you? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
I read the O'Brian piece. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Yeah, it's tough. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
I'm a pinko. I slant the news. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
I'm just waiting for him to say my wife left me too. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Nobody worth their salt reads him. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
You read him. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 | |
Well, see, I rest my case. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
Does Paley read him? | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Bill Paley's not gonna do anything, Don. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Well... | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
thanks, Ed. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Oh, I just came by to tell you | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
how great the lieutenant piece was. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
Thanks. How's the fallout? | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
Mostly good, surprisingly. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Is this the start? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
Are you taking sides? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
It's just a little poke with a stick, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
see what happens. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
You let me know if I can help. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
But you're a pinko, Don. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
DON LAUGHS | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
I'll see you, Ed. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
INDISTINCT CHATTER | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
SURINE: Hey, Joe, what's all this Radwich junk you're putting out? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
Don, I can't talk to you right now. I gotta get this film back to New York. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
What would you say if I told you Murrow was on the Soviet payroll in 1935? | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
Uh, Charlie, you want to... | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
Sure. I'll set up outside. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
McCarthy going to the Eisenhower dinner? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
I have no idea. I don t keep the Senator's calendar for him, Joe. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Really? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
Don, ever seen... any spy films? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
You don't just hand me a classified folder. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
You're supposed to slip it in my briefcase when I'm not looking. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
It's perfect. I didn't know who to give this information to, Paley or Murrow. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
As you can imagine, Fred and I aren't very friendly. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
No pun intended. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
Well, no pun elocuted. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
What do you got? In short? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
Murrow's been a communist sympathiser since the 1930s. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
Member of the International Workers, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
sponsored educational trips to Moscow, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
and on the Soviet payroll in 1935. It's all there. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
You wanna know why that's not possible? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:15 | |
Why you'll lose this one, Donald? | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
Because everyone in this country knows | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Ed Murrow is a loyal American. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
He's a patriot. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
DONALD SCOFFS | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
Did you know the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary, Joe? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Can I give this to him? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
Oh, I'd love it. I have copies. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
I think you guys go too far. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
MARY: Yes, Mr Paley. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
Right away. Yes, sir. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
No, he hasn't called. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
Yes, sir, the second he calls. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
If you're in a meeting, shall I...? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Yes, sir. Of course, sir. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Mr Murrow... | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
Mr Paley will see you now. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Mr Paley, Mr Murrow is here. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Thank you, Miss Mary. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
Hello, Ed. Bill. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Sit over here, will you? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
How's Janet? Your son? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
All well, thanks. How's Babe? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Oh, she's fine. She's fine. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:21 | |
Her fundraiser got rained on, so... | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Oh. That's why I never plan on anything. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
Really? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
You'd never know. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Reading fiction? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
I hope so. You tell me. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Well, now we know how they're gonna come at us. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
That's just their first shot. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:40 | |
Somebody's going to go down. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Have you checked your facts? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
Are you sure you're on safe ground? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
Bill, it's time. Show our cards. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
My cards. You lose, what happens? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
Five guys find themselves out of work. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
I'm responsible for a hell of a lot more | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
than five goddamn reporters. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:58 | |
Let it go. | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
McCarthy will self-destruct, Cohn, all of them. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
Bill, you said corporate would not interfere with editorial, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
and that the news was to be left our own... | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
We don't make the news, we report the news. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
99% of the time, he's wrong about the people he's marked as communists. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
And if he goes too far, the senate will investigate him, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
and we will report on that. But he's wrong 100% of the time | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
when he oversteps people's civil liberties. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
You're trying him in the press. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
Does he get to face his accuser? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
You've just decided on this, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
and now you're presenting it as fact. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:23 | |
What I am doing, Bill... I write your cheque. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
I put you in your country house, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
and I put your son through school. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
You should have told me about this | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
before it went so far down the road. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:32 | |
Every one of your boys needs to be clean. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Do you understand? No ties. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:47 | |
If Aaron's mother | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
so much as went to a group fundraiser in 1932, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
he's out. Hewitt too. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Anyone in that room. You make no mistake, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
I will cut them loose. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Corporate won't interfere with editorial. | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
But editorial will not... INTERCOM BUZZES | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
..jeopardise the hundreds of employees | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
of the Columbia Broadcasting System. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:05 | |
Do I make myself clear? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
..Yes? | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
FRIENDLY: Fellas, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
our next show is gonna be about Senator McCarthy. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
And we re gonna go right at him. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
I don't need to tell you how careful we have to be. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
If we are to do this, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:24 | |
then Ed and I need you to be straight with us. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
We need to know, for the good of the piece, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
if any of you have any connection at all, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
if you subscribed to a newsletter, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
if you attended a party, anything. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Anything that could compromise this, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
anything at all, because now would be the time to tell us. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
Ed, I think I should excuse myself. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
ZOUSMER: Palmer, you kidding? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
PALMER: My ex was a... | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
well, I wouldn't say she was a communist, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
but she certainly attended meetings. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
It was before we were married. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
I didn't even really know about it until after the divorce. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
But it was different then. We were all on the same side. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
I'm not telling you guys anything you don't know. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
The thing of it is, somebody'll find out. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
They'll hurt us with it. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
I should have told you sooner, Ed. I'm sorry. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Fred. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:17 | |
Oh, if none of us had ever read a dangerous book | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
or had a friend who was different, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
never joined an organisation that advocated change, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
we'd all be just the kind of people Joe McCarthy wants. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
We're gonna go with the story, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
cos the terror is right here in this room. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
FRIENDLY: John, Jesse, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
go through the HUAC hearings. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
Eddie, Palmer, look into the interviews | 0:33:42 | 0:33:43 | |
and any speeches. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
OK, fellas, here we go. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
His own words, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:49 | |
that's what we need. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
MCCARTHY: He wouldn't remove a general from the army | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
who cleared a communist major. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
I said, "Then, General, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
"you should be removed from any command. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
"Any man who says, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
"I will protect another general | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
"who protects communists, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
"is not fit to wear that uniform, General." | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
WILLIAMS: All right, so hold on. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Ethically, we're fine. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:09 | |
But legally, if we air this, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
are we leaking closed-hearing testimony? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
SCOTT: Well, we're not misquoting him. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
There are other reporters. I think legally we're safe. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
If it's a legal issue, it's his. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:18 | |
SCOTT: I'll check with legal. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
And wait till you hear the bleeding hearts | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
scream and cry about our methods | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
of trying to drag the truth | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
from those who know or should know, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
who covered up | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
a Fifth Amendment communist major. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
But they say, "Oh, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
"it's all right to uncover them, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
"but don't get rough doing it, McCarthy." | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
CROWD CHUCKLES | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
Did the Civil... Civil Liberties Union | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
provide you with an attorney at that time? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
HARRIS: I had many offers of attorneys, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
and one of those was from the American Civil Liberties Union, yes. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
MCCARTHY: The questions is, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
did they supply you with an attorney? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
- They did supply an attorney. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
- The answer is yes? - The answer is yes. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
- You know the Civil Liberties Union | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
has been listed as a front for and doing the work | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
of the communist party? | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
- Mr Chairman, this was 1932. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
- Yeah, I know that was 1932. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:11 | |
Do you know that they since have been listed | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
as a front for and doing the work of the communist party? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
- I do not know that they have been listed. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
- You don't know they have been listed? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
- I have heard that mentioned... | 0:35:20 | 0:35:21 | |
All right, Leo. Turn it off. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
ZOUSMER: I need those three cans. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
FRIENDLY: Has anybody read this book yet? It would be nice | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
if this guy isn't actually a commie. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
WILLIAMS: I wanna read the book. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
WERSHBA: I hear you, boss. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
I'll put it on a kinescope. Push through to the end. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
FRIENDLY: Palmer, cut it at 2:30. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:35 | |
ZOUSMER: I prefer it one on each end, let it run through. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
I think it'd be more powerful. Cut Kennedy, shorten the piece. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
FRIENDLY: Joe, file it for me. I'll see the Mundt piece later. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
MURROW: Are we gonna make it, Fred? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
FRIENDLY: We lost the telecine, but we'll make it. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Did you finish your closing piece? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
MURROW: It's Shakespeare. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
FRIENDLY: Write your closing. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
WERSHBA: My argument was, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
if you just show the images of McCarthy, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
it doesn't make any difference. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
If you agree with him, you're gonna hate it. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
If you don't, you'll love it. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
Maybe they should wait till they get more footage. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
I don't think we can take that chance. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
See, we've gotta hit McCarthy before he comes after Ed. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
The blue one. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
Well, they haven't gone after the Alsops or Herb Block. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Well, honey... | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
the Alsops and Herb Block didn't work | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
for the Institute of International Education in 1934. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
Then I guess it's time. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:52 | |
You worried? | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
I didn't think I was. Hm. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
I don't know why. I was in the office on Friday. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
And I answered the phone, and it was Howard calling from London. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
And he asked what was going on with McCarthy. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
And before I answered him | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
I turned and looked over my shoulder | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
to see who was listening. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:19 | |
And who was listening? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Chairman Mao. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
See you at the office. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Hey, your ring. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
Name me another wife | 0:37:37 | 0:37:38 | |
who reminds her husband to take off | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
his wedding ring before he goes to the office. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
Ava Gardner. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
NATALIE: Excuse me, Mr Friendly. Mr Murrow? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
Uh, Mr Paley's on the line for you. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
Maybe he wants to reimburse us for those ads. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Ah, you'd like that. I would like that. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
This is Ed. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
PALEY: There s a Knickerbocker game tonight. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
I've got front row seats. Are you interested? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
I'm a little busy bringing down the network tonight, Bill. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Is that tonight? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
We're covered, Bill. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
All right. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:18 | |
I'm with you today, Ed, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
and I'm with you tomorrow. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
Thanks, Bill. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
LINE CLICKS | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
Do you know the timing on this first piece? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
SIMON: You have the wrong extension. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Can we hold all the calls, please, Simon? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
All the calls till after the show, thank you. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
MACK: You fellas awake down there? | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
AARON: OK. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
What are we, 20? | 0:38:50 | 0:38:51 | |
FRIENDLY: 30 seconds. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER TV | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
FRIENDLY: Ten seconds. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
FRIENDLY: Five, four, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
three, two... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
ZOUSMER: And pan, camera one. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
Because a report | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
on Senator McCarthy is, by definition, controversial, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
we want to say exactly what we mean to say | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
and request your permission to read from a script | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
whatever remarks Murrow and Friendly may make. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
If the Senator feels that we have done violence | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
to his words or pictures, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
and desires, so to speak, to answer himself, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
an opportunity will be afforded him on this programme. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
Our working thesis tonight is this quotation: | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
"If this fight against communism has made a fight | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
"between America's two great political parties, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
"the American people know that one of these parties will be destroyed. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
"And the Republic cannot endure very long | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
"as a one-party system." | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
We applaud that statement, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
and we think Senator McCarthy ought to. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
He said it 17 months ago in Milwaukee. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
MCCARTHY (OVER SPEAKERS): The American people realise that this cannot be made | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
a fight between America's two great political parties. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
If this fight against communism is made a fight | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
against America's two great political parties, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
the American people know | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
that one of those parties will be destroyed, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
and the Republic can't endure very long | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
as a one-party system. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
MURROW: On one thing, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
the Senator has been consistent. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
Often operating as a one-man committee, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
he has travelled far, interviewed many, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
terrorised some. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
Accused civilian and military leaders | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
of the past administration of a great conspiracy | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
to turn over the country to communism. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
MCCARTHY: Well, may I say that I was extremely shocked | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
when I heard that Secretary Stevens | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
told two army officers that they... | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
had to take part in the cover-up | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
of those who promoted and coddled communists. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
As I read his statement, I, uh... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
thought of that quotation, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
"On what meat doth this our Caesar feed?" | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
MCCARTHY: The question is, did the Civil Liberties Union | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
supply you with an attorney? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:06 | |
HARRIS: They did supply an attorney. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
-The answer is yes? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
- The answer is yes. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
- Do you think this book did considerable harm, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
its publication, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
by an expression of the views contained in it? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
- The sale of that book was so abysmally small, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
it was so unsuccessful, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
that a question of its influence, uh... | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
Really, you can go back to the publisher. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
You'll see it was one of the most unsuccessful books | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
he ever put out. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
He's still sorry about it, just as I am. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
- I think that's a compliment to American intelligence... | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
CROWD CHUCKLES | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
..I'll say that. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
The Reed Harris hearing demonstrates | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
one of the Senator's techniques. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:43 | |
Twice he said, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
"The American Civil Liberties Union was listed | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
"as a subversive front." | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
The Attorney General's list does not and never has | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
listed the ACLU as subversive, nor does the FBI | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
or any other federal government agency. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
And the American Civil Liberties Union holds in its files | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
letters of commendation from President Truman, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
President Eisenhower, and General Macarthur. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Earlier, the Senator asked, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
"Upon what meat does this our Caesar feed?" | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
Had he looked three lines earlier in Shakespeare's Caesar, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
he would have found this line, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
which is not all together inappropriate. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
"The fault, dear Brutus, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:18 | |
"is not in our stars, but in ourselves." | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
No one familiar with the history of this country can deny | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
that congressional committees are useful. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
It is necessary to investigate before legislating, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
but the line between investigating and persecuting | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
is a very fine one. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:33 | |
And the Junior Senator from Wisconsin | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
has stepped over it repeatedly. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
We must remember always that accusation is not proof, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
and that conviction depends upon evidence | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
and due process of law. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
We will not walk in fear, one of another. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
If we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
not from men who feared to write, to associate, to speak, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
and to defend the causes that were, for the moment, unpopular. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy's methods | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
to keep silent, or for those who approve. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
We can deny our heritage and our history, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
but we cannot escape responsibility for the results. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
We proclaim ourselves, indeed as we are, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
the defenders of freedom | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
wherever it continues to exist in the world. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
But we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
The actions of the Junior Senator from Wisconsin | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
and given considerable comfort to our enemies. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
And whose fault is that? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
Not really his. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
He didn't create this situation of fear, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
he merely exploited it, and rather successfully. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
Cassius was right. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
"but in ourselves." | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
Good night, and good luck. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
FRIENDLY: And we're out. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
Nothing? | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
Well, maybe nobody watched. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
WILLIAMS: We got nothing. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:29 | |
I don't know. Nothing. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:30 | |
SIMON: Should I turn the phones back on, Mr Williams? | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
Yes, I think now would be a good time for that. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Turn the phones on! PHONES RING | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
Turn the phones right on. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
It's the Junior Senator calling collect. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
Don't kid yourself. It's Reed Harris | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
thanking us for putting him on the best-seller list. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
I don t know whether all of you have seen what I just saw, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
but I want to associate myself and this programme | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
with what Ed Murrow has just said, | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
and say I have never been prouder of CBS. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
Great show. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
HOLLENBECK: ...McCarthy said today that he would demand equal free... | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
PHONES STILL RING | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
PHONES RING | 0:45:09 | 0:45:10 | |
HOLLENBECK: ...charged that the senator made demagoguery and deceit | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
the national policy of the Republican Party. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
You got Hollenbeck? | 0:45:17 | 0:45:18 | |
Congratulations. Great show. Good work. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
Feel like a scotch? | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
I think everybody could use a scotch. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
MUSIC PLAYS: "You're Driving Me Crazy" by Dianne Reeves | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
# You You're drivin' me crazy | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
# What did I do? | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
# What did I do? | 0:45:39 | 0:45:40 | |
# My tears for you | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
# Make everything hazy | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
# Cloudin' the sky of blue | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
# How true | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
# Were the friends who were near me to cheer me? | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
# Believe me, they knew But you | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
# Were the one who would hurt me, desert me | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
# When I needed you | 0:45:55 | 0:45:56 | |
# Oh, you You're drivin' me crazy | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
# What did I do to you...? # | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
It's 3:30. Early editions are out. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
MURROW: I'm not worried. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:17 | |
No, of course not. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:18 | |
Shirley, honey, would you go across the street | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
and get the early editions? All of them? | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
Just get O'Brian. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
Hey, watch my drink. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
Yeah. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
# ..What did I do to you? # | 0:46:31 | 0:46:36 | |
ZOUSMER: Well? | 0:46:58 | 0:46:59 | |
SHIRLEY: OK, here we go. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
At last. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
The Times. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:04 | |
Right on time. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:05 | |
SCOTT: Good. Who wrote it? | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
Jack Gould. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:08 | |
Gould? Ah... | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
"Edward R Murrow's television programme | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
"on Senator Joseph R McCarthy | 0:47:12 | 0:47:13 | |
"was an exciting and provocative examination | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
"of the man and his methods. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
"It was crusading journalism | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
"of high responsibility and courage. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
"For TV so often plagued by timidity and hesitation, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
"the programme was a milestone | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
"that reflected enlightened citizenship..." | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
"The programme..." Hold on. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
"The programme was no less an indictment of those who wish | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
"the problems posed by the Senator's tactics | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
"and theatrics would just go away and leave them alone." | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
"That was Mr Murrow's and television's triumph | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
"and a very great one." | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
Hear, hear. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:45 | |
FRIENDLY: He hated it. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
MURROW: Yeah, what's his beef, huh? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
Send the New York Times a bottle of scotch. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
I did. How do you think we got that review? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:51 | |
ZOUSMER: How's The Post? | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
WERSHBA: Pretty good. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:54 | |
What about O'Brian? | 0:47:54 | 0:47:55 | |
SHIRLEY: Uh, the same. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:47:57 | 0:47:58 | |
Go on, go on. Read O'Brian. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
Uh, I don't have it. Got it. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:01 | |
Oh, here. Here we go. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
Shirley, that... | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
"We can't say we were surprised | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
"at Edward R Murrow's Hate McCarthy telecast last evening, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
"when his explosively one-sided propaganda, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
"edited with deviously clever selectivity from McCarthy's | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
"march against communism, was finished last evening. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
"By equally machiavellian coincidence | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
"the following telecast featured Murrow's PM protege, Hollenbeck. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
"In an obviously gloating mood, | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
"Hollenbeck hoped viewers had witnessed | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
"his patron's triumph from and for the Left." | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
Hm. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:37 | |
So on. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:38 | |
HOLLENBECK: Shirley, it's OK. Finish it. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
No, that's it. Shirley, please. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
Finish it. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
"The Columbia Broadcasting System has been in a lengthy | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
"clean house of Lefties mood. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
"The worst offenders on lesser levels | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
"have been quietly pushed out of the company. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
"Don Hollenbeck, a graduate of the demised | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
"pinko publication PM, attacked conservative papers | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
"with sly and slanted propaganda. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
"He then proceeded through an equally..." | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
SHIRLEY SIGHS | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
"..tilted review of the day's events with McCarthy | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
"dominating his words, actions, attitudes." | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
So on, so on. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:13 | |
It's O'Brian. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:17 | |
Yeah. He didn't get the scotch, that's all. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
SCOTT: Grammatically correct? | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
I'll have that cigarette, Ed. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
PALMER: Thanks, Shirley. SHIRLEY: Ah. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
ZOUSMER: Thank you. Joe, Shirley. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:31 | |
For the leg work. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:32 | |
FRIENDLY: It doesn't add up. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
SHIRLEY: Yeah. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
SHE CHUCKLES To Jack Gould. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
FRIENDLY: To Jack, to Jack, to Jack Gould. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
SHIRLEY: I love Jack Gould! | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
AARON: A scholar and a gentleman. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
SCOTT: May he rest in peace. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:49 | |
Hello, Jimmy. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:52 | |
Fred, congratulations. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:53 | |
Thank you. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
I got a hangover you wouldn't believe. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:56 | |
All the ad guys on the third floor watched the show. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
Got a good review in The New York Times. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
Switchboard lit up all night. Jack Gould. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
Putting out a press release that said calls came in 15-1 | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
in favour of the show. Really? | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
We got calls from everywhere. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
East coast or the west coast? | 0:50:08 | 0:50:09 | |
Yeah. Kansas City, Cincinnati. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
Mr Paley. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
Morning, Fred. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:15 | |
Good morning, Mr Paley. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
How's your wife? | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
She's fine. Getting ready to move. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
Really? Where to? | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
Riverdale. We found a nice house there. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
Yeah. It's nice there. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
Excuse me. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:38 | |
Fred, | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
McCarthy wants William Buckley to do his rebuttal. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
I said no. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
Hey, Johnny. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:54 | |
Radulovich has been reinstated. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
AARON: What? | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
Guys, guys, Radulovich has been reinstated. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
AARON: Jesse, Jesse! | 0:51:00 | 0:51:01 | |
Where did you hear this? | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
Got some good news. Got some very good news. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
Special announcement from the Secretary of the Air Force. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
Fellas. Fellas, listen up! | 0:51:09 | 0:51:10 | |
Everyone. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:11 | |
"I have decided that it is consistent | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
"with the interests of the national security | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
"to retain Lieutenant Radulovich in the United States Air Force. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
"Stop. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
"He is not, in my opinion, a security risk. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
"Full stop." | 0:51:22 | 0:51:23 | |
CHEERS AND LAUGHTER | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
There you go. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:26 | |
Harold E Talbott, Secretary from the Air Force. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
FRIENDLY: Congratulations. Great job. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
Make a copy of that for me. I will do, Fred. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
Good job, Don. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
All right! SCOTT: this means something. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:36 | |
This absolutely means something, you know it does. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
ZOUSMER: Absolutely. This is the start of... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
TYPEWRITER CLACKS | 0:51:41 | 0:51:42 | |
Palmer? | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
The CBS lawyers wanna talk to you. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
When? Tomorrow. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
FRIENDLY: I don't want you to get paranoid. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
They're talking to everybody. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
PALMER: Any ideas? | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
Just tell them what you know. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
COHN (ON TV): Now, is that testimony true? | 0:52:08 | 0:52:09 | |
MOSS: No, sir, it is not. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
Not at any time have I been a member | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
of a communist party, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
and I have never seen a communist card. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
You've never seen a communist card? | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
That's right. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
Have you ever attended any meetings? | 0:52:19 | 0:52:20 | |
No, sir, I ve never attended any communist meetings. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
Have you ever subscribed to The Daily Worker? | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
No, sir, I didn t subscribe for The Daily Worker, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
and I wouldn't pay for it. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
McCARTHY: Uh, now, Mrs Markward, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
who was working for the FBI, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
who joined the Communist Party under orders from the FBI, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
has testified that while she never met you | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
personally at a communist meeting, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
that your name was on the list | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
of communists who were paying dues. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
Uh, can you shed any light upon that? | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
No, sir. I don t even know | 0:52:51 | 0:52:52 | |
what the dues are or where they were paid. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
McCARTHY: So I understand you have never paid any money | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
to the Communist Party, is that correct? | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
That's right. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
You've never paid any dues... | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
Right, thank you, Leo. Thank you very much. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Good work, Joe, Charlie. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
Now, what is the show? | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
Is it defending Annie Lee Moss as not being a communist? | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
Or is it her constitutional rights? | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
I think we're much better sticking up for constitutional issues. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
Agreed? The woman is not a spy. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:19 | |
FRIENDLY: McCarthy said that they have a spy in the Pentagon, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
that spy has gotten into the code room, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
and that that spy is Annie Lee Moss. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
I've got New York Times reports, | 0:53:26 | 0:53:27 | |
"McCarthy asserts he has a new red link to army." | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
Quote, "Senator mccarthy charged today that the army | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
"now employs a woman in its code room | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
"who was, and still may be, | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
an active communist," unquote. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:36 | |
Front page of The New York Times. Three days ago. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
WERSHBA: No sooner is he done chastising the other committee members | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
for wanting to push it to the afternoon, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
then seven questions in, he ducks out. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
FRIENDLY: He leaves. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:46 | |
It's all over the headlines all over the country. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
MURROW: Eddie, get me copies | 0:53:48 | 0:53:49 | |
from any newspaper that printed anything | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
about that assertion. Absolutely.| | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
FRIENDLY: Get The Cincinnati Enquirer, all of them. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
Have a stack for the show. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:56 | |
Couple other pieces I think we should include. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
The fact that there's three Annie Lee Mosses in the phone book. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
There are two Robert Halls. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
One's coloured, one's white. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:04 | |
WILLIAMS: Charlie said we have some footage of the empty chair. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
That says it all. That picture of McCarthy not... | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
McCarthy leaving the hearing after seven questions, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
and then we'll cut to the shot of the chair. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
All right, so to that end... | 0:54:15 | 0:54:16 | |
Excuse me, fellas. Mr Murrow. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
McCarthy wants April 6th. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
Thank you, Natalie. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:25 | |
Fine. If Charlie shoots it, we get to see it first. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
We should ask. We should offer. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
What the hell could McCarthy possibly do? | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
Is he gonna debate himself? We just used his words. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
Can't he use Buckley? | 0:54:38 | 0:54:39 | |
We used the original transcripts. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
Johnny, Johnny, we know what it's going to be. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
He's going to come after me. There's nothing more he can do. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
He's gonna bet that a senator trumps a newsman. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
FRIENDLY: He'll lose. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
Well, not if we're playing bridge. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:54:53 | 0:54:54 | |
Oh, I m sorry, guys. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
Didn't mean to interrupt. FRIENDLY: Hey, don. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
Uh, Ed, you have a minute? | 0:54:58 | 0:54:59 | |
Yes, Don, I ll be right there. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
FRIENDLY: All right, boys. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:02 | |
WERSHBA: All right, playtime's over. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:03 | |
We have four days to do a 28-minute show. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
MURROW: Sorry. Oh, that s all right, Ed. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
Hi, Mary. Hello, Mr Hollenbeck. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
Give us a moment, please, dear? | 0:55:10 | 0:55:11 | |
MARY: Certainly. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
HOLLENBECK: Thank you, dear. Thank you. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
I have to ask you something, Ed. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
It's about O'Brian. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:20 | |
He doesn't matter. He's killing me. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
Doesn't matter in the newsroom. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:23 | |
It's not just him. We ought to let that guy have it. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
We have to expose O'Brian. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:26 | |
I will not take on McCarthy and Hearst. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
I can't defeat them both. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
Just don't read the papers. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
Or don't read O'Brian, anyway. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
OK. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
I guess not. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
I'm sorry, Don. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:43 | |
Although Miss Moss offered to testify... | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
Senator Mundt, South Dakota. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
...Senator McCarthy suggested that she was too sick... | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
Mr Cohn wanted to know about Mrs Moss's connection... | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
McCARTHY: Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:08 | |
so help you God? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
COHN: May we get your full name for the record, please? | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
Annie Lee Moss. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
M-o-s-s? | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
That's right. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
McCARTHY: Mrs Moss, let me say for the record, | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
for your information, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:24 | |
for the information of your counsel, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
that you are not here because... | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
you are considered important in the communist apparatus. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
We have the testimony that you are a... | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
have been a communist. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
We are rather curious, however, to know that | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
how you suddenly, uh, were shifted from, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
uh, a worker in a cafeteria to the code room. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
In other words, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
I am today much more interested | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
in the handling of your case by your superiors | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
than in your own personal activities. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
However, counsel will question you | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
about your own activities also. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:05 | |
MAN: Uh, Mr Chairman... | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
We will not hear from counsel. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
You have been told what the rule is. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
If you have anything to say, say it through your client. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
OK, then. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
COHN: Did you begin work at the general accounting office in, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
uh, 1945? | 0:57:22 | 0:57:23 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
And, uh, prior to that time, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
had you been a cafeteria worker? | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
Yes, I had. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:30 | |
I see. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:31 | |
Uh, while in the Pentagon, since 1950, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
have you had any connections with coded messages? | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
Have you ever handled coded messages? | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
No more than to transmit 'em. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
Pardon me? | 0:57:43 | 0:57:44 | |
No more than to transmit the message. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
Than to transmit them? Mm-hmm. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
Did you transmit codes? | 0:57:47 | 0:57:48 | |
Receive or to transmit messages was all I had to do. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
And then the courtroom, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:52 | |
I've never been into a courtroom in my life. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
McCARTHY: Do you know the, uh... type of classification...? | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
Do you know if they were secret, top-secret, confidential? | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
No, sir. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
Other words, you wouldn't know | 0:58:03 | 0:58:04 | |
the degree of classification? | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
No, sir. I see. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:07 | |
HE CLEARS THROAT | 0:58:07 | 0:58:08 | |
I'm afraid I'm going to have to excuse myself, | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
I've got, uh, | 0:58:11 | 0:58:12 | |
a rather important appointment tonight, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
which I've got to work on right now, | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
and I wonder if, Senator Mundt, | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
you would take over as chairman. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
Chairman, uh... MUNDT: Cohn? | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
..I have no further questions of this witness at this time. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
I can say this, we have the testimony | 0:58:30 | 0:58:32 | |
of Mrs Markward, the undercover agent for the FBI, | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
stating that Annie Lee Moss was a member, | 0:58:35 | 0:58:37 | |
a due-paying member of the Communist Party, | 0:58:37 | 0:58:40 | |
uh, the Northeast Club of the Communist Party. | 0:58:40 | 0:58:42 | |
We have corroboration of that testimony | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 | |
by another witness, | 0:58:45 | 0:58:47 | |
who was called before the committee | 0:58:47 | 0:58:48 | |
and gave a sworn statement to the effect | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
that she also knew Mrs Moss | 0:58:50 | 0:58:52 | |
as a member of the Northeast Club of the Communist Party. | 0:58:52 | 0:58:56 | |
She's already lost her job. | 0:58:56 | 0:58:57 | |
She's been suspended because of this action. | 0:58:57 | 0:59:00 | |
I'm not defending her. | 0:59:00 | 0:59:01 | |
If she's a communist, I want her exposed. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:04 | |
But to make these statements | 0:59:04 | 0:59:05 | |
as we've got corroborating evidence | 0:59:05 | 0:59:07 | |
that she is a communist, | 0:59:07 | 0:59:09 | |
under these circumstances, I think she's entitled | 0:59:09 | 0:59:12 | |
to have it produced here in her presence | 0:59:12 | 0:59:14 | |
and let the public know about it | 0:59:14 | 0:59:16 | |
and let her know about it. | 0:59:16 | 0:59:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:59:18 | 0:59:21 | |
McCLELLAN: I don't like to try people by hearsay evidence. | 0:59:21 | 0:59:25 | |
I'd like to get the witnesses here and try them... | 0:59:25 | 0:59:28 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:59:28 | 0:59:29 | |
...by testimony under oath. | 0:59:29 | 0:59:31 | |
MUNDT: The chair will rule that the comment of Mr Cohn | 0:59:31 | 0:59:35 | |
be stricken from the record. | 0:59:35 | 0:59:37 | |
Well, I didn't ask that. Mr Chairman. | 0:59:37 | 0:59:39 | |
MUNDT: ...Whether we should try to produce a witness in public | 0:59:39 | 0:59:42 | |
because the FBI may have her undercover, | 0:59:42 | 0:59:44 | |
and we don t want to... | 0:59:44 | 0:59:46 | |
You can't strike these statements made by counsel here | 0:59:46 | 0:59:48 | |
as to evidence that we're having and withholding. | 0:59:48 | 0:59:51 | |
You cannot strike that from the press, | 0:59:51 | 0:59:54 | |
nor from the public mind once it's planted there. | 0:59:54 | 0:59:56 | |
That's the... that is the, uh... | 0:59:56 | 1:00:00 | |
evil of it. | 1:00:00 | 1:00:02 | |
I don't think it's fair to a witness, | 1:00:02 | 1:00:05 | |
to a citizen of this country, to bring 'em up here | 1:00:05 | 1:00:07 | |
and cross-examine 'em, then when they get through, say, | 1:00:07 | 1:00:10 | |
"The FBI has got something on you that condemns you." | 1:00:10 | 1:00:12 | |
MUNDT: The chair agrees... | 1:00:12 | 1:00:14 | |
It is not sworn testimony, | 1:00:14 | 1:00:16 | |
it's convicting people by rumour and hearsay and innuendo. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:19 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:00:19 | 1:00:20 | |
You will notice | 1:00:20 | 1:00:22 | |
that neither Senator McClellan or Senator Symington, | 1:00:22 | 1:00:24 | |
nor this reporter, | 1:00:24 | 1:00:25 | |
know or claim that Mrs Moss was or is a communist. | 1:00:25 | 1:00:29 | |
Their claim was simply that she had the right | 1:00:29 | 1:00:31 | |
to meet her accusers face to face. | 1:00:31 | 1:00:34 | |
TYPEWRITER CLACKS | 1:00:34 | 1:00:37 | |
MURROW: 'One month ago tonight, | 1:00:47 | 1:00:49 | |
'we presented a report on Senator Joseph R McCarthy. | 1:00:49 | 1:00:52 | |
'We labeled it as controversial. | 1:00:52 | 1:00:54 | |
'Most of that report | 1:00:54 | 1:00:55 | |
'consisted of words and pictures of the senator. | 1:00:55 | 1:00:58 | |
'At that time we said, | 1:00:58 | 1:01:00 | |
'if the senator believes | 1:01:00 | 1:01:01 | |
'we have done violence to his words or pictures, | 1:01:01 | 1:01:04 | |
'if he desires to speak, to answer himself, | 1:01:04 | 1:01:06 | |
'an opportunity would be afforded him on this programme. | 1:01:06 | 1:01:09 | |
'The senator sought the opportunity, asked for a delay of three weeks' | 1:01:09 | 1:01:14 | |
because he said he was very busy, | 1:01:14 | 1:01:15 | |
and he wished adequate time to prepare his reply. We agreed. | 1:01:15 | 1:01:19 | |
We placed no restrictions on the manner or method | 1:01:19 | 1:01:22 | |
of the presentation of his reply, | 1:01:22 | 1:01:23 | |
and we suggested that we would not take time | 1:01:23 | 1:01:26 | |
to comment on this particular programme. | 1:01:26 | 1:01:28 | |
Here now is Senator Joseph R McCarthy, | 1:01:28 | 1:01:31 | |
Junior Senator from Wisconsin. | 1:01:31 | 1:01:33 | |
McCARTHY (OVER SPEAKERS): Uh, good evening. | 1:01:33 | 1:01:35 | |
Mr Edward R Murrow, educational director | 1:01:35 | 1:01:38 | |
of the Columbia Broadcasting System, | 1:01:38 | 1:01:41 | |
devoted his programme to an attack on the work | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
of the United States Senate investigating committee, | 1:01:44 | 1:01:46 | |
and on me personally as its chairman. | 1:01:46 | 1:01:49 | |
Now, over the past four years, | 1:01:49 | 1:01:51 | |
he has made repeated attacks upon me | 1:01:51 | 1:01:53 | |
and those fighting communists. | 1:01:53 | 1:01:56 | |
Now, of course, neither Joe McCarthy, | 1:01:56 | 1:01:58 | |
nor Edward R Murrow, | 1:01:58 | 1:02:00 | |
is of any great importance as individuals. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:03 | |
We are only important in our relation | 1:02:03 | 1:02:06 | |
to the great struggle | 1:02:06 | 1:02:07 | |
to preserve our American liberties. | 1:02:07 | 1:02:10 | |
Now, ordinarily... | 1:02:10 | 1:02:11 | |
ordinarily, I would not take time out | 1:02:11 | 1:02:13 | |
from the important work at hand to answer Murrow. | 1:02:13 | 1:02:17 | |
However, in this case, I feel justified in doing so | 1:02:17 | 1:02:20 | |
because Murrow is the symbol, the leader, | 1:02:20 | 1:02:24 | |
and the cleverest of the jackal pack, | 1:02:24 | 1:02:27 | |
which is always found | 1:02:27 | 1:02:28 | |
at the throat of anyone who dares to expose | 1:02:28 | 1:02:31 | |
individual communists and traitors. | 1:02:31 | 1:02:34 | |
And I am compelled by the facts | 1:02:34 | 1:02:37 | |
to say to you that Mr Edward R Murrow, | 1:02:37 | 1:02:39 | |
as far back as 20 years ago, | 1:02:39 | 1:02:43 | |
was engaged in propaganda for communist causes. | 1:02:43 | 1:02:47 | |
For example, the Institute of International Education, | 1:02:47 | 1:02:50 | |
of which he was the acting director, | 1:02:50 | 1:02:53 | |
was chosen to act as a representative | 1:02:53 | 1:02:56 | |
by a Soviet agency to do a job | 1:02:56 | 1:03:00 | |
which would normally be done by the Russian secret police. | 1:03:00 | 1:03:05 | |
Now, Mr Murrow, by his own admission, was a member of the IWW. | 1:03:05 | 1:03:08 | |
That's the Industrial Workers of the World, | 1:03:08 | 1:03:11 | |
a terrorist organisation cited as subversive | 1:03:11 | 1:03:14 | |
by an Attorney General of the United States. | 1:03:14 | 1:03:17 | |
Now, Mr Murrow said on this programme... | 1:03:17 | 1:03:19 | |
and I quote, | 1:03:19 | 1:03:20 | |
he said, "The actions of the Junior Senator from Wisconsin | 1:03:20 | 1:03:25 | |
"have given considerable comfort to the enemy." | 1:03:25 | 1:03:30 | |
That is the language of our statute of treason, | 1:03:30 | 1:03:33 | |
rather strong language. | 1:03:33 | 1:03:35 | |
If I am giving comfort to our enemies, | 1:03:35 | 1:03:38 | |
I ought not to be in the Senate. | 1:03:38 | 1:03:40 | |
If on the other hand, | 1:03:40 | 1:03:41 | |
Mr Murrow is giving comfort to our enemies, | 1:03:41 | 1:03:44 | |
he ought not to be brought into the homes | 1:03:44 | 1:03:47 | |
of millions of Americans | 1:03:47 | 1:03:49 | |
by the Columbia Broadcasting System. | 1:03:49 | 1:03:52 | |
And I want to assure you that I will not be deterred | 1:03:52 | 1:03:56 | |
by the attacks of the Murrows, the Lattimores, the Fosters, | 1:03:56 | 1:04:03 | |
The Daily Worker, or the Communist Party itself. | 1:04:03 | 1:04:08 | |
And I make no claim to leadership. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:13 | |
In complete humility, | 1:04:14 | 1:04:17 | |
I do ask you and every American who loves this country | 1:04:17 | 1:04:22 | |
to join with me. | 1:04:22 | 1:04:24 | |
MAN: Everyone talks about the weather. | 1:04:51 | 1:04:54 | |
Wherever you look on America's modern farms, | 1:04:54 | 1:04:57 | |
aluminum is on the job, | 1:04:57 | 1:04:59 | |
helping the farmer do something about the weather. | 1:04:59 | 1:05:02 | |
Aluminum for the farm is one more example of how ALCOA, | 1:05:02 | 1:05:05 | |
since 1888, has continued to pioneer | 1:05:05 | 1:05:09 | |
new uses for this vital metal. | 1:05:09 | 1:05:11 | |
New uses of aluminum that mean better farms | 1:05:11 | 1:05:14 | |
and better farming. | 1:05:14 | 1:05:15 | |
The aluminum from the nation's first and leading producer, | 1:05:15 | 1:05:20 | |
ALCOA, | 1:05:20 | 1:05:21 | |
Aluminum Company Of America. | 1:05:21 | 1:05:24 | |
Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared on this programme | 1:05:24 | 1:05:26 | |
to correct any errors | 1:05:26 | 1:05:27 | |
he might have thought we made in our report of March 9th. | 1:05:27 | 1:05:30 | |
Since he made no reference | 1:05:30 | 1:05:31 | |
to any statements of fact that we made, | 1:05:31 | 1:05:33 | |
we must conclude that he found no errors of fact. | 1:05:33 | 1:05:37 | |
He proved again that anyone who exposes him, | 1:05:37 | 1:05:39 | |
anyone who does not share his hysterical disregard | 1:05:39 | 1:05:42 | |
for decency and human dignity | 1:05:42 | 1:05:44 | |
and the rights guaranteed by the constitution, | 1:05:44 | 1:05:46 | |
must be either a communist or a fellow traveller. | 1:05:46 | 1:05:50 | |
I fully expected this treatment. | 1:05:50 | 1:05:52 | |
The senator added this reporter's name | 1:05:52 | 1:05:54 | |
to a long list of individuals and institutions | 1:05:54 | 1:05:56 | |
he has accused of serving the communist cause. | 1:05:56 | 1:05:59 | |
His proposition is very simple: | 1:05:59 | 1:06:01 | |
anyone who criticises or opposes Senator McCarthy's methods | 1:06:01 | 1:06:05 | |
must be a communist. | 1:06:05 | 1:06:07 | |
And if that be true, | 1:06:07 | 1:06:08 | |
there are an awful lot of communists in this country. | 1:06:08 | 1:06:11 | |
For the record, let's consider briefly | 1:06:11 | 1:06:13 | |
some of the senator's charges. | 1:06:13 | 1:06:15 | |
He claimed, but offered no proof, | 1:06:15 | 1:06:17 | |
that I had been a member of the Industrial Workers of the World. | 1:06:17 | 1:06:20 | |
That is false. | 1:06:20 | 1:06:22 | |
I was never a member of the IWW, never applied for membership. | 1:06:22 | 1:06:26 | |
The senator charged that Professor Harold Laski, | 1:06:26 | 1:06:29 | |
a British scholar and politician, dedicated a book to me. | 1:06:29 | 1:06:32 | |
That's true. | 1:06:32 | 1:06:33 | |
He is dead. | 1:06:33 | 1:06:34 | |
He was a socialist. I am not. | 1:06:34 | 1:06:37 | |
He was one of those civilised individuals who did not insist | 1:06:37 | 1:06:40 | |
upon agreement with his political principles | 1:06:40 | 1:06:42 | |
as a pre-condition for conversation or friendship. | 1:06:42 | 1:06:45 | |
I do not agree with his political ideas. | 1:06:45 | 1:06:49 | |
Laski, as he makes clear in the introduction, | 1:06:49 | 1:06:51 | |
dedicated the book to me | 1:06:51 | 1:06:52 | |
not because of political agreement, | 1:06:52 | 1:06:54 | |
but because he held | 1:06:54 | 1:06:56 | |
my wartime broadcasts from London in high regard, | 1:06:56 | 1:06:59 | |
and the dedication so reads. | 1:06:59 | 1:07:01 | |
I believed 20 years ago and I believe today | 1:07:01 | 1:07:05 | |
that mature Americans can engage in conversation and controversy, | 1:07:05 | 1:07:08 | |
the clash of ideas, | 1:07:08 | 1:07:09 | |
with communists anywhere in the world | 1:07:09 | 1:07:11 | |
without becoming contaminated or converted. | 1:07:11 | 1:07:14 | |
I believe that our faith, | 1:07:14 | 1:07:16 | |
our conviction, our determination, | 1:07:16 | 1:07:18 | |
are stronger than theirs, | 1:07:18 | 1:07:20 | |
and that we can compete, and successfully, | 1:07:20 | 1:07:22 | |
not only in the area of bombs, but in the area of ideas. | 1:07:22 | 1:07:28 | |
I have worked for CBS for more than 19 years. | 1:07:28 | 1:07:32 | |
The company has subscribed fully | 1:07:32 | 1:07:34 | |
to my integrity and responsibility | 1:07:34 | 1:07:36 | |
as a broadcaster and as a loyal American. | 1:07:36 | 1:07:38 | |
I require no lectures | 1:07:38 | 1:07:40 | |
from the Junior Senator from Wisconsin | 1:07:40 | 1:07:42 | |
as to the dangers or terrors of communism. | 1:07:42 | 1:07:45 | |
Having searched my conscience and my files, | 1:07:45 | 1:07:48 | |
I cannot contend that I have always been right or wise, | 1:07:48 | 1:07:51 | |
but I have attempted to pursue the truth with some diligence | 1:07:51 | 1:07:53 | |
and to report it. | 1:07:53 | 1:07:55 | |
Even though, as in this case, | 1:07:55 | 1:07:56 | |
I had been warned in advance that I would be subjected | 1:07:56 | 1:07:59 | |
to the attentions of Senator McCarthy. | 1:07:59 | 1:08:02 | |
We shall hope to deal with matters | 1:08:02 | 1:08:04 | |
of more vital interest to the country next week. | 1:08:04 | 1:08:07 | |
Good night, and good luck. | 1:08:07 | 1:08:09 | |
ZOUSMER: "In the last analysis, the senator was perched | 1:08:15 | 1:08:18 | |
"on the television high dive | 1:08:18 | 1:08:19 | |
"and all prepared to make a resounding splash. | 1:08:19 | 1:08:21 | |
"He jumped beautifully, but he neglected | 1:08:21 | 1:08:23 | |
"to check first where he was going going to land. | 1:08:23 | 1:08:25 | |
"It must have been something of a shock | 1:08:25 | 1:08:27 | |
"to discover that Mr Murrow | 1:08:27 | 1:08:29 | |
"had drained the water out of the pool." | 1:08:29 | 1:08:31 | |
Is that The Times - Gould? | 1:08:31 | 1:08:33 | |
Yeah, Jack Gould at The Times. | 1:08:33 | 1:08:34 | |
Wow, he's a hell of a writer. | 1:08:34 | 1:08:36 | |
Hire him. If we could afford him! | 1:08:36 | 1:08:38 | |
Stan's got a public opinion... | 1:08:38 | 1:08:39 | |
The Senate's investigating McCarthy. | 1:08:39 | 1:08:41 | |
..What? | 1:08:41 | 1:08:43 | |
The Army's charging that McCarthy and Cohn | 1:08:43 | 1:08:45 | |
exercised undue pressure to get | 1:08:45 | 1:08:47 | |
preferential treatment for Schine. Who's the source? > | 1:08:47 | 1:08:49 | |
It's unimpeachable. | 1:08:49 | 1:08:50 | |
You have a second source? | 1:08:50 | 1:08:52 | |
There's not a second source but this is coming out on the wire in 2 hours. | 1:08:52 | 1:08:54 | |
Who's heading the investigation? | 1:08:54 | 1:08:56 | |
Well, it's not gonna be McCarthy! | 1:08:56 | 1:08:59 | |
What happened? | 1:08:59 | 1:08:59 | |
Call The Washington Post. Get a second source. | 1:08:59 | 1:09:01 | |
Hey, it's Palmer Williams for Jack Thompson. | 1:09:01 | 1:09:03 | |
The senate's investigating McCarthy. | 1:09:03 | 1:09:05 | |
There is an added bit of comedy to this story. | 1:09:05 | 1:09:08 | |
The committee cannot convene for several days because McCarthy | 1:09:08 | 1:09:12 | |
has a slight case of laryngitis... REPORTERS: Aw! | 1:09:12 | 1:09:14 | |
..and he must recover in the desert air of Arizona. | 1:09:14 | 1:09:17 | |
Aw! Aw! | 1:09:17 | 1:09:19 | |
But stevens is going after him, | 1:09:19 | 1:09:20 | |
and it looks like Joe Welch. Yeah? | 1:09:20 | 1:09:23 | |
They're gonna allow each side to call witnesses | 1:09:23 | 1:09:25 | |
and be privy to other testimony. | 1:09:25 | 1:09:27 | |
SCOTT: Hey, Fred, can we start the meeting when I get back? | 1:09:27 | 1:09:30 | |
We're gonna go talk to Thompson. | 1:09:30 | 1:09:31 | |
(QUIETLY) No. Thanks, Jack. Bye. | 1:09:33 | 1:09:35 | |
Well, Freddy, we're a hit. | 1:09:35 | 1:09:38 | |
Right up there with howdy-doody, huh? | 1:09:38 | 1:09:40 | |
AARON: Can I have an outside line, please? | 1:09:40 | 1:09:45 | |
< Uh, Murray Hill... 3-1-2-7-6. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:50 | |
# Somewhere there's music | 1:09:54 | 1:10:02 | |
# How faint the tune... # | 1:10:03 | 1:10:10 | |
"The fact of newscaster Don Hollenbeck s suicide yesterday | 1:10:10 | 1:10:13 | |
"does not remove from the record | 1:10:13 | 1:10:15 | |
"the peculiar history of the leftist slanting of the news | 1:10:15 | 1:10:18 | |
"indulged consistently by the Columbia Broadcasting System. | 1:10:18 | 1:10:23 | |
"Hollenbeck was what most astute students | 1:10:23 | 1:10:25 | |
"of CBS's strange and questionable new methods | 1:10:25 | 1:10:28 | |
"considered typical of its newscasters. | 1:10:28 | 1:10:32 | |
"By Jack O'Brian." | 1:10:32 | 1:10:34 | |
# ..When love is far away too | 1:10:34 | 1:10:40 | |
# Till it comes true | 1:10:40 | 1:10:47 | |
# That you love me | 1:10:48 | 1:10:52 | |
# As I love you | 1:10:52 | 1:10:56 | |
# Somewhere there's music | 1:10:58 | 1:11:04 | |
# It's where you are | 1:11:05 | 1:11:11 | |
# Somewhere there's heaven | 1:11:14 | 1:11:18 | |
# How near | 1:11:20 | 1:11:23 | |
# How far | 1:11:23 | 1:11:26 | |
# The darkest night | 1:11:28 | 1:11:31 | |
# Would shine if you | 1:11:31 | 1:11:36 | |
# Would come to me soon | 1:11:36 | 1:11:43 | |
# Until you will | 1:11:43 | 1:11:46 | |
# How still my heart | 1:11:46 | 1:11:50 | |
# How high | 1:11:50 | 1:11:54 | |
# The moon. # | 1:11:54 | 1:12:02 | |
SINGER: Oh, yeah. I like it like that. | 1:12:05 | 1:12:08 | |
MURROW: 'One of the best programmes I ever heard | 1:12:08 | 1:12:10 | |
'was called CBS Views The Press.' | 1:12:10 | 1:12:13 | |
A great many people liked it. Some didn't. | 1:12:13 | 1:12:15 | |
But no-one ever called it anything but honest. | 1:12:15 | 1:12:18 | |
It was the work of an honest reporter, | 1:12:18 | 1:12:21 | |
Don Hollenbeck. | 1:12:21 | 1:12:23 | |
He also worked occasionally on See It Now. | 1:12:23 | 1:12:26 | |
He did the 11 P.M. news over some of these stations. | 1:12:26 | 1:12:29 | |
He had been sick lately, and he died this morning. | 1:12:29 | 1:12:32 | |
The police said it was suicide. | 1:12:32 | 1:12:35 | |
Gas. | 1:12:35 | 1:12:36 | |
Not much of an obit, | 1:12:36 | 1:12:38 | |
but at least we got our facts straight, | 1:12:38 | 1:12:41 | |
and it was brief. | 1:12:41 | 1:12:43 | |
And that's all Don Hollenbeck would have asked. | 1:12:43 | 1:12:45 | |
Good night, and good luck. | 1:12:45 | 1:12:49 | |
WERSHBA: I gotta be in Philadelphia this morning. | 1:12:53 | 1:12:56 | |
What time is your train? | 1:12:56 | 1:12:58 | |
Ooh... eight. | 1:12:58 | 1:13:00 | |
Charlie going with you? | 1:13:00 | 1:13:03 | |
Uh-huh. | 1:13:03 | 1:13:05 | |
Here's a thought... | 1:13:12 | 1:13:14 | |
what if we're wrong? | 1:13:14 | 1:13:17 | |
We're not wrong. | 1:13:19 | 1:13:21 | |
I'm not gonna look back... | 1:13:21 | 1:13:25 | |
and say we protected the wrong side? | 1:13:25 | 1:13:27 | |
Protected them from what? | 1:13:29 | 1:13:31 | |
In the name of what? What would we be preserving? | 1:13:31 | 1:13:36 | |
Argument could be made, for the greater good. | 1:13:37 | 1:13:41 | |
Not once you give it all away. | 1:13:41 | 1:13:42 | |
It's no good then. | 1:13:42 | 1:13:44 | |
Hm. It's just a thought. | 1:13:44 | 1:13:47 | |
WELCH: Senator, may we not drop this? | 1:13:54 | 1:13:56 | |
We know he belonged to the Lawyers Guild. | 1:13:56 | 1:13:57 | |
Mr Cohn nods his head at me. | 1:13:57 | 1:14:00 | |
I did you, I think, no personal injury, Mr Cohn. | 1:14:00 | 1:14:05 | |
No, sir. | 1:14:05 | 1:14:06 | |
I meant to do you no personal injury. | 1:14:06 | 1:14:08 | |
No. | 1:14:08 | 1:14:09 | |
And if I did, I beg your pardon. | 1:14:09 | 1:14:11 | |
Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. | 1:14:11 | 1:14:14 | |
McCARTHY: Well, let's... | 1:14:14 | 1:14:16 | |
You've done enough. | 1:14:16 | 1:14:17 | |
Have you no sense of decency, sir? | 1:14:17 | 1:14:20 | |
At long last, have you left no sense of decency? | 1:14:20 | 1:14:24 | |
I know this hurts you, Mr Welch. | 1:14:24 | 1:14:27 | |
WELCH: Senator, I think it hurts you too, sir. | 1:14:27 | 1:14:30 | |
McCARTHY: I'd like to finish this. | 1:14:30 | 1:14:31 | |
WELCH: Have you some private reservation when you take the oath | 1:14:31 | 1:14:34 | |
that you will tell the whole truth | 1:14:34 | 1:14:37 | |
that lets you be the judge of what you will testify to? | 1:14:37 | 1:14:40 | |
The answer is there's no reservation about telling the whole truth. | 1:14:40 | 1:14:42 | |
Thank you, sir. | 1:14:42 | 1:14:44 | |
Then tell us who delivered the documents to you. | 1:14:44 | 1:14:47 | |
WOMAN (ON TV): 'I don't want to mean | 1:14:47 | 1:14:49 | |
'that this new fashion is not... is not chic. | 1:14:49 | 1:14:51 | |
'I think is just no good for me.' | 1:14:51 | 1:14:54 | |
Uh, not for you. | 1:14:54 | 1:14:56 | |
Uh, Milko, anything you care to say on that subject? | 1:14:56 | 1:14:59 | |
MAN: I think no comment. | 1:14:59 | 1:15:01 | |
MILLIE: It's gotta be here. | 1:15:03 | 1:15:05 | |
SHIRLEY: If you can't find it, I can't write about it. Check again. | 1:15:05 | 1:15:08 | |
Charlie said he dropped it off. | 1:15:08 | 1:15:09 | |
Shirley, can I see you a minute? | 1:15:09 | 1:15:11 | |
I gotta call you back. | 1:15:11 | 1:15:13 | |
Joe, you too. | 1:15:13 | 1:15:15 | |
Close the door. | 1:15:23 | 1:15:25 | |
Have a seat. | 1:15:29 | 1:15:31 | |
How are you? | 1:15:33 | 1:15:35 | |
Fine, thank you. Swell. Yeah. | 1:15:35 | 1:15:37 | |
Uh, you both are aware that there's a policy here at CBS | 1:15:37 | 1:15:40 | |
that no two employees can be married. | 1:15:40 | 1:15:43 | |
I want to ask you both a question, but I don't want you to answer it. | 1:15:44 | 1:15:48 | |
I want you to just consider it. | 1:15:48 | 1:15:51 | |
I know you two are married. | 1:15:51 | 1:15:54 | |
Everyone knows. | 1:15:54 | 1:15:56 | |
That's not my question. | 1:15:56 | 1:15:58 | |
Um, in the next few weeks I have to lay off a couple of people. | 1:15:58 | 1:16:01 | |
We're making some significant cuts across the board. | 1:16:01 | 1:16:04 | |
I wanted you to know that | 1:16:04 | 1:16:07 | |
because you could save someone else being fired. | 1:16:07 | 1:16:10 | |
I'm asking you to, uh, consider | 1:16:11 | 1:16:14 | |
making this decision a little easier. | 1:16:14 | 1:16:16 | |
I don't need an answer now. | 1:16:17 | 1:16:20 | |
Just... think about it. | 1:16:20 | 1:16:23 | |
OK. | 1:16:24 | 1:16:26 | |
Well, Joe... Well? | 1:16:36 | 1:16:38 | |
I'm sure gonna miss you around here. | 1:16:38 | 1:16:40 | |
Yeah, I'll pack my things. | 1:16:40 | 1:16:42 | |
I think it's for the best. | 1:16:44 | 1:16:46 | |
Well, we'll find out. | 1:16:46 | 1:16:48 | |
Miss Wershba. | 1:16:49 | 1:16:51 | |
Everybody knew! | 1:16:52 | 1:16:55 | |
Hm. | 1:16:57 | 1:16:58 | |
MURROW: Natalie, did he say what it was about? | 1:17:03 | 1:17:06 | |
NATALIE: No, Mr Murrow, just that he wanted to talk to you in his office. | 1:17:06 | 1:17:10 | |
Uh-oh. | 1:17:23 | 1:17:25 | |
The problem isn't simply that you've lost your sponsor. | 1:17:28 | 1:17:31 | |
With ALCOA, See It Now still loses money... | 1:17:31 | 1:17:33 | |
FRIENDLY: Mr Paley, the fee is 50,000. | 1:17:33 | 1:17:35 | |
Last week's episode we did for less than 50,000... | 1:17:35 | 1:17:37 | |
Fred, you're speaking beyond your competence. | 1:17:37 | 1:17:39 | |
We'll find another sponsor. | 1:17:39 | 1:17:40 | |
We can certainly find someone who wants to... | 1:17:40 | 1:17:42 | |
64,000 Question brings in over 80,000 in sponsors, | 1:17:42 | 1:17:45 | |
and it costs one third of what you do. | 1:17:45 | 1:17:47 | |
Ed, I ve got Tuesday night programming that's number one. | 1:17:47 | 1:17:50 | |
People want to enjoy themselves. They don't want a civics lesson. | 1:17:50 | 1:17:54 | |
MURROW: What do YOU want, Bill? | 1:17:54 | 1:17:55 | |
I don't wanna get a constant stomach ache | 1:17:55 | 1:17:57 | |
every time you take on a controversial subject. | 1:17:57 | 1:17:59 | |
I'm afraid that's the price you have to be willing to pay. | 1:18:01 | 1:18:04 | |
Let's walk very carefully through these next few moments. | 1:18:04 | 1:18:09 | |
The content of what we're doing is more important | 1:18:09 | 1:18:10 | |
than what some guy in Cincinnati... | 1:18:10 | 1:18:13 | |
What you re doing, Ed. Not me. Not Frank Stanton, you. | 1:18:13 | 1:18:15 | |
CBS News, See It Now, all belong to you, Bill. | 1:18:15 | 1:18:19 | |
You wouldn't know it. | 1:18:19 | 1:18:21 | |
What is it you want? Credit? | 1:18:22 | 1:18:24 | |
I never censored a single programme. | 1:18:24 | 1:18:27 | |
I hold on to affiliates who wanted entertainment from us. | 1:18:27 | 1:18:32 | |
I fight to keep the licence | 1:18:32 | 1:18:34 | |
with the very same politicians that you were bringing down, | 1:18:34 | 1:18:38 | |
and I never, never said no to you. | 1:18:38 | 1:18:41 | |
Never. | 1:18:41 | 1:18:43 | |
I would argue that we have done very well by one another. | 1:18:43 | 1:18:46 | |
I would argue that this network... | 1:18:47 | 1:18:50 | |
is defined by what the news department has accomplished. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:54 | |
And I would also argue that never saying no | 1:18:54 | 1:18:56 | |
is not the same as not censoring. | 1:18:56 | 1:18:58 | |
Really? You should teach journalism. | 1:18:58 | 1:19:00 | |
You and Mr Friendly. | 1:19:00 | 1:19:01 | |
Let me ask you this... | 1:19:06 | 1:19:09 | |
why didn't you correct McCarthy | 1:19:09 | 1:19:11 | |
when he said that Alger Hiss was convicted of treason? | 1:19:11 | 1:19:14 | |
He was only convicted of perjury. | 1:19:14 | 1:19:16 | |
You corrected everything else. | 1:19:16 | 1:19:18 | |
Did you not want the appearance of defending a known communist? | 1:19:18 | 1:19:21 | |
I would argue that everyone censors, including you. | 1:19:21 | 1:19:26 | |
What do you want to do, Bill? | 1:19:28 | 1:19:31 | |
I'm taking your programme from a half an hour to an hour. | 1:19:33 | 1:19:37 | |
And it won't be a weekly programme and it won't be Tuesday nights. | 1:19:37 | 1:19:40 | |
When would it be? | 1:19:40 | 1:19:43 | |
Sunday afternoons. | 1:19:43 | 1:19:45 | |
How many episodes? | 1:19:46 | 1:19:48 | |
Five. | 1:19:48 | 1:19:50 | |
Why don't you just fire me, Bill? | 1:19:51 | 1:19:54 | |
I don't think it's what either of us wants. | 1:19:54 | 1:19:57 | |
You owe me five shows. | 1:19:59 | 1:20:02 | |
MURROW: You won't like the subject matter. | 1:20:10 | 1:20:12 | |
Probably not. | 1:20:12 | 1:20:14 | |
Fred, I ll need you for a moment. | 1:20:14 | 1:20:16 | |
FRIENDLY: Thank you, Mary. | 1:20:29 | 1:20:30 | |
MARY: Good night, Mr Friendly. | 1:20:30 | 1:20:32 | |
He wants me to lay a few people off. | 1:20:37 | 1:20:39 | |
I'm sure he does. | 1:20:39 | 1:20:42 | |
Let's do our first show about the downfall of television. | 1:20:42 | 1:20:45 | |
Senate's going to vote to censor McCarthy tomorrow. | 1:20:47 | 1:20:49 | |
Probably. | 1:20:49 | 1:20:51 | |
And then what happens? | 1:20:51 | 1:20:52 | |
He sits in the back row. | 1:20:52 | 1:20:53 | |
Right. They keep him in the senate. | 1:20:53 | 1:20:56 | |
They don't kick him out. | 1:20:56 | 1:20:57 | |
No, he stays. | 1:20:57 | 1:20:59 | |
Well, we might as well go down swinging. | 1:21:07 | 1:21:10 | |
Did you know the most trusted man in America is Milton Berle? | 1:21:14 | 1:21:17 | |
See? You should have worn a dress. | 1:21:17 | 1:21:19 | |
-EISENHOWER: -...They're more sophisticated... | 1:21:19 | 1:21:21 | |
How does a scotch sound? | 1:21:21 | 1:21:23 | |
-..We love America... -Scotch sounds good. | 1:21:23 | 1:21:25 | |
-..Why are we proud...? -Did you know Joe and Shirley were married? | 1:21:25 | 1:21:27 | |
-Sure. -..We are proud, first of all | 1:21:27 | 1:21:29 | |
because from the beginning of this nation, | 1:21:29 | 1:21:31 | |
a man can walk upright. | 1:21:31 | 1:21:34 | |
No matter who he is or who she is, | 1:21:35 | 1:21:38 | |
he can walk upright and meet his friend or his enemy. | 1:21:38 | 1:21:43 | |
And he does not fear | 1:21:43 | 1:21:44 | |
that because that enemy may be a position in great power, | 1:21:44 | 1:21:49 | |
that he can be suddenly thrown in jail | 1:21:49 | 1:21:55 | |
to rot there without charges | 1:21:55 | 1:21:57 | |
and with no recourse to justice. | 1:21:57 | 1:22:01 | |
We have the habeas corpus act, and we respect it... | 1:22:01 | 1:22:04 | |
I began by saying | 1:22:04 | 1:22:06 | |
that our history will be what we make it. | 1:22:06 | 1:22:09 | |
If we go on as we are, then history will take its revenge, | 1:22:09 | 1:22:13 | |
and retribution will not limp in catching up with us. | 1:22:13 | 1:22:17 | |
Just once in a while, | 1:22:17 | 1:22:19 | |
let us exalt the importance of ideas and information. | 1:22:19 | 1:22:22 | |
Let us dream to the extent of saying | 1:22:22 | 1:22:25 | |
that on a given Sunday night, | 1:22:25 | 1:22:27 | |
a time normally occupied by Ed Sullivan | 1:22:27 | 1:22:27 | |
is given over to a clinical survey | 1:22:27 | 1:22:30 | |
on the state of American education. | 1:22:30 | 1:22:32 | |
And a week or two later, a time normally used by Steve Allen | 1:22:32 | 1:22:36 | |
is devoted to a thorough-going study | 1:22:36 | 1:22:38 | |
of American policy in the Middle East. | 1:22:38 | 1:22:41 | |
Would the corporate image of their respective sponsors be damaged? | 1:22:41 | 1:22:44 | |
Would the shareholders rise up in their wrath and complain? | 1:22:44 | 1:22:48 | |
Would anything happen other than a few million people | 1:22:48 | 1:22:51 | |
would have received a little illumination on subjects | 1:22:51 | 1:22:54 | |
that may well determine the future of this country | 1:22:54 | 1:22:56 | |
and therefore the future of the corporations? | 1:22:56 | 1:22:59 | |
To those who say, "People wouldn't look. They wouldn't be interested. | 1:22:59 | 1:23:02 | |
"They re too complacent, indifferent and insulated," | 1:23:02 | 1:23:05 | |
I can only reply: there is, in one reporter s opinion, | 1:23:05 | 1:23:09 | |
considerable evidence against that contention. | 1:23:09 | 1:23:13 | |
But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? | 1:23:13 | 1:23:16 | |
Because if they are right, | 1:23:16 | 1:23:18 | |
and this instrument is good for nothing | 1:23:18 | 1:23:20 | |
but to entertain, amuse and insulate, | 1:23:20 | 1:23:23 | |
then the tube is flickering now, | 1:23:23 | 1:23:25 | |
and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. | 1:23:25 | 1:23:29 | |
This instrument can teach. | 1:23:29 | 1:23:31 | |
It can illuminate, and, yes, it can even inspire. | 1:23:31 | 1:23:34 | |
But it can do so only to the extent | 1:23:34 | 1:23:36 | |
that humans are determined to use it towards those ends. | 1:23:36 | 1:23:39 | |
Otherwise, it is merely wires and lights in a box. | 1:23:40 | 1:23:45 | |
Good night, and good luck. | 1:23:48 | 1:23:51 | |
FOOTSTEPS DEPARTING | 1:23:54 | 1:23:56 | |
# It's quarter to three | 1:24:12 | 1:24:16 | |
# There's no one in the place | 1:24:16 | 1:24:19 | |
# Except you and me | 1:24:19 | 1:24:23 | |
# So set 'em up, Joe | 1:24:25 | 1:24:29 | |
# I've got a little story | 1:24:29 | 1:24:33 | |
# You oughta know | 1:24:33 | 1:24:37 | |
# We're drinkin', my friend | 1:24:38 | 1:24:42 | |
# Till the end | 1:24:43 | 1:24:45 | |
# Of a brief episode | 1:24:45 | 1:24:49 | |
# Make it one for my baby | 1:24:51 | 1:24:56 | |
# And one more for the road | 1:24:56 | 1:25:01 | |
# That long, long | 1:25:04 | 1:25:11 | |
# Road. # | 1:25:11 | 1:25:17 |