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This programme contains some strong language and scenes some viewers may find upsetting. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:08 | |
DISTANT CHILDREN'S LAUGHTER | 0:00:35 | 0:00:42 | |
DISTANT SIREN WAILS | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
HORN BEEPS | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Sue, right now, your baby needs to be safe | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
and you need a bit of support, don't you? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
I know you love her. Of course you do. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
But this will give you a chance to sort yourself out. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
I couldn't get on top of it, with everything... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
Don't, Margaret. Don't take her. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Do you want to put her down, Sue? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Just put her in the carrycot. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
You all right, love? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Yeah? | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
Put her down. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
There you go. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
You'll be able to see her tomorrow. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
I'll take you to her and you'll be able to see that she's fine. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Whoa, darling. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Don't! | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
Don't! Please! Margaret, please! | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
I'll do better, I will! | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
SUZIE SOBS | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
The thing I love about this group | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
is that you don't have to explain yourself here. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
We've all been adopted as kids | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
and OK, we've all had different experiences after that, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
but it's a big bottom line, isn't it? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Anyway, I'm glad to be here tonight. I don't mind telling you. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
I've been getting a lot of grief at work. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Things have been getting me down, really. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
Been feeling a bit low, a bit lonely. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
You know, when you always think | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
is it because of what happened when I was a kid? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
You know, maybe I'll never be right. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
But you can't always know that, can you? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
You just... you just always wonder. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Is this where the Triangle Group is? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Yes, that's right, but we've finished for the night. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Charlotte. Charlotte Cooper. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Can I have a quick word? It won't take a minute. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Well, what you're looking for isn't really what this group does. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
This is a local support group, really. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
I might be able to refer you to somebody who'd be able to offer you counselling. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
I don't want counselling. I want to find out who I am. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Well, this isn't really the way to... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
I don't even know if my name and birth date are right. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
I remember leaving England. I was four-years-old. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
I was in a children's home because my parents were dead. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Then they sent me in a boat to Australia. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
All I know for certain is I was born in Nottingham. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
What do you mean they put you on a boat? | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
They put us all on a boat for Oz. Hundreds of us. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Your adoptive parents were emigrating? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
No. No parents, no guardians. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Just a couple of hundred kids, they sent us away. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
-That can't be right. -What do you mean? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
It's simply not legal. There's no way a group of | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
unaccompanied children would be shipped off like that. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
-You calling me a liar? -No, of course not. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
That is the one thing I know... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
I know about who I am. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
Don't you tell me that's not true. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
OK, look. I can see you're upset. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
Why don't you come to my office on another day? | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Take this. That's my name, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
that's all I've got to tell anyone where I've come from. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
It is 10:30 at night... | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
I can't find anything else. I've tried everything. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
I've been everywhere. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
Now, my time's running out. I'm flying back. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
So you have a look and you write and tell me how wrong I am. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
You come 10,000 miles to find home, they call you a liar. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
Wait. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
You're not a bloody saint. You were tired. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Yeah, I know, but I should have seen it coming. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
You can't always see it coming. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-Why's Ben out of bed? -Oh, hello, miss. Ben spilled his juice. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
-It wasn't my fault. -What are you doing out of bed? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
I can't sleep. Can I read? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
No. Go on, go back up to bed and I'll come tuck you up in a minute. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
It's not fair, I'm older than him. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
-Happens all the time. -Come on, up you go. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
I just hope I did the right thing. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
Margaret, we're social workers. There's no right thing. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
There's social-work practice, court decisions... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
My professional judgement. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Which means that sometimes you're doing the right thing, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
and sometimes you're oppressing the poor | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
with the middle-class values of a reactionary government. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Don't make that face at me. Kiss from Mummy. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
Sometimes, you're just tired. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Ooh, you're heavy. Now, then... | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
RAIN PATTERS | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
-BEN: -Mum? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Mum? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
It's OK. I'll go. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
Had bad dream. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
Oh, sweetie. You OK? | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
What happened? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
It was a long, long tunnel thing and I couldn't... | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
You couldn't what? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Couldn't get out and I couldn't find you. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Darling, I'm here. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
I lost you. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Oh, sweetie. I'm here now. I'm not going anywhere, OK? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
All right? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
You going to go back to sleep? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
All right. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
-I think you have to talk about it. -Exactly. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
I only told my husband just this last year. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Good for you. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
What do you think, Nicky? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
Um, well, I know what you mean, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
but sometimes I think it sounds stupid | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
if I told everyone what was bothering me. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
What is it? | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Um... | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
It's my brother, my brother Jack. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Uh... | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
I don't really see him, you see. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Do you want to tell everyone who Jack is, Nicky? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Mmm... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
Uh, yeah. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
PUTS CUP DOWN | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
-That's my brother, Jack. -That's lovely. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
He found me a few years ago. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Um... | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Just got a letter out of the blue. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
"Dear Nicky, I think I may be your brother Jack." | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
And he was. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
Well, soon as I saw him, I knew. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I mean... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
I remembered. That's right. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
Once upon a time, I used to have a brother. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
So where is he? | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
Australia. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Can you believe it? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
It was the Sally Army who found me for him. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
They'd taken us both in and put me in my first foster home | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
and shipped Jack off to Australia. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
So, uh... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
I mean, I know I have family, I suppose, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
but he's so far away, and sometimes it's hard to feel... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
-SIGHS -Anyway. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
So was he adopted by an Australian family? | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
Uh, no. No. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
It was just kids, Jack said. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
A big ship full of kids from 5 to 13, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
all being sent off to Australia. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
You never told me that bit, Nicky. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Didn't I? Well, that's what happened. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
Could still all be just coincidence. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Do you think so? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Well, if children did emigrate to Australia in any numbers, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
there must be some record of them. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
I was just wondering if you had any records | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
of any unaccompanied children | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
sent to Australia in the 1940s and '50s. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
I don't think we ever had those records in Australia House. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
So there were children sent out there? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Um, do you know how many? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
When? Why were they sent? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
I've already told you. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
We don't have any more information. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
So who would know? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Why don't you ask your own government? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
They're the ones who sent the kids out there. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
I know, I couldn't believe it. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
I mean, I was still half thinking that the story couldn't be true | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
and he just came out with it. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:17 | |
No, no. I think I'm going to... | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
I think I'm going to still get the later train | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
and I'm going to try St Catherine's House now. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
See if I can find Charlotte's birth certificate. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
If I can get her mother's name off that, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
then I can probably find out when she died | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
and then when Charlotte was placed in an orphanage. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
We can start to trace her journey. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Maybe get some clues about why Nicky's brother was sent away as well. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Charlotte's mother wasn't dead. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Lovely to see you, Merv. How was your day? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Charlotte said she was in an orphanage in 1950 | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
because both her parents were dead. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Well, I found a record of a woman with her mother's name | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
who got married in Nottingham in 1956, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
not dead, very much alive and eating wedding cake. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Might not be the same woman. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
I've ordered up the certificate | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
but why would Charlotte have been sent if she wasn't an orphan? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
So if her mother was alive in '56, she might still be alive. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
-I know. -So you going to follow that up? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Well, I'll find the address on the certificate and follow the trail from there. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Do you think it's her? | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
About the right age. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Hello, Vera. Yeah, not bad. And you? | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Is that the time already? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Thanks. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
Hang on, I'll finish that up. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
-Excuse me, are you Vera Wilson? -That's me. How can I help you, love? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
I was wondering if I could have a word with you in private. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
It's something personal. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I'll take you through. What's it about? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
It's about your family. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
I knew you'd come one day. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
-It's you, isn't it? You're my baby. -No, Vera, I'm a social worker. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
Do you know where our baby is? | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Let's go somewhere where we can talk in private. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Where is she? | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Does she have a family? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
Is she happy? | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
Charlotte's in Australia. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
She grew up in a children's home in Australia. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
In Australia? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
What was she doing over there? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
What was she doing in a children's home? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
I went back to get her and they told me she'd been adopted. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I went back to get her. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
They told me she was better off. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
She was in a real family. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
What's she doing in a children's home on the other side of the world? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
SOBS | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
-ANNOUNCEMENT: -This flight is now closed and will depart. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Final call for British Airways... | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
All right, let me take that. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
-How was your flight? -All right. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
We'll go out this way to the car. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
You ready for tonight? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
That's, uh, my mother. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Your grandmother. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
She was very strict, you know. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Well, you've got to understand how things were 40 years ago. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
No-one wanted... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
the shame. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
It was such a scandal. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Mother wouldn't have me in the house. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
They took my baby away from me at the hostel | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
and...I tried to visit. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
And then one day they said she'd gone. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
You had gone. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
I kept this for you. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
In case. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Well, I always kept it. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
I'm up to my eyes at work. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
I know. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
And we can't afford it. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
I know. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
And the kids? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
We'll be fine here. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Hey. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Oh! CHUCKLES | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
-Nice to see you. -You too. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Oh, Margaret. This is my brother, Jack. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
It's very nice to meet you. I've heard a lot about you. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Good to meet you too. How was the flight? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Uh, yeah, good. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Get these into the car. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
-You all right? -Yeah. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
Still OK to come to the reunion tomorrow? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Yeah. Yeah, of course. You must be tired. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Yeah, a little bit. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
So we are delighted | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
to see our usual wonderful turnout of former Fairbridge residents. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
This is a nostalgic and happy day for all of us. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
Now, just before I go, this is Mrs Humphreys, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
who has come all the way from England | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
to join one of our old Fairbridgians at the reunion today. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
She'd love to hear any stories you have about your time here, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
so do take the time to talk to her, if you can. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Hello, my name's Margaret Humphreys. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
I was recently contacted by a woman | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
who was sent here to Australia as a child | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
and has lost all contact with her family in England. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
And I'm here today to see if any of you are in the same position. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
If you want to talk to me, just come and find me later. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
All right. Thank you. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
So is this all there is, the bunkhouses, the farm buildings? | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
What about the school? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Well, you only got to go to school if you finished your farm work first. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Jack told me some stories about this place, didn't you, Jack? | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Food was terrible, wasn't it? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
What was it you used to have, Jack? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
You could always tell the Fairbridge kids | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
because they were the ones nicking the other kids' lunch boxes. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
Do you know if all the other children | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
were sent out from Britain, the same as you? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
I don't know, I don't know. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
Do you know who sent you? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-It's a bit hot. I'll be out by the bus. -Yeah. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Sorry, Margaret. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
This woman you were talking about. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
-Did you find any family for her? -Yes. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
She was told that her mother was dead but we found her. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:49 | |
-You found her mother? -Yes. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Do you think I've got a mother? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Everybody's got a mother. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
What year? What year are we talking about? | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
ALL ASK QUESTIONS AT ONCE | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Sorry to keep you waiting. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Any records of who the child migrants were | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
would be back in the UK or with local state authorities. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
More. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
Oh, there's so many of them. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
These migrations - were they organised schemes? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
I can't tell you, really. It's not my area, I'm afraid. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
So, why have I never heard about it? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
Why has no-one ever heard about it? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
I don't suppose anyone was really that interested. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Stay there while I get a view of you two. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
What's up, Jack? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I can't stand Mother's Day. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
Get the same feeling every year, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
like someone's twisting a knife inside me. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
So, normally I stay inside on that day and I draw the blinds | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
and I let the phone ring. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
I was married, you know. I've got three kids. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
I never knew what was wrong with me. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
You know, I'd think about my mother all the time, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
but I could never talk about it. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
How can you talk about someone | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
when you've been told they don't even exist? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
I went to see this doctor. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
He put me on antidepressants. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
That didn't really help, so I saved them up, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
I saved them all up and then... | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
I mean, it wasn't my wife's fault, you know. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
There's a... | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
..there's an emptiness in me. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
There always has been and I think... I thought... | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
I think that the only thing that could fill it is her, you know? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
-Is my mother. -Jack! Jack! | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
There's a very strong memory. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
I was in the children's home in the UK, I was only ten. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
This man in a suit, he came to see me and he says, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
"How'd you like to go to Australia? The sun shines every day. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
"You'd live in a white house, ride a horse to school | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
"and you'd pick oranges off the trees for your breakfast." | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
When I didn't say anything, he says, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
"Well, your mother's dead, you know, so you might as well." | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
So... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Now you're telling me that she might not have been dead, after all. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
No, I can't say that, Jack. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
We just don't know. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
What we can do is we can search for her records | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
and see what we can find. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
I don't know. Of course, of course. I don't know. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
You found your sister. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
She was so happy to see you, you know. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Nicky trusts you. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
And I reckon I... I think I should too. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
There she is. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
Hello, sweetie. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Hello, darling. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Good to see you. How was the plane? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
It was all right, actually. Come on, guys. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
-Did you get any sleep? -Little bit, yeah. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
You all right? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
Oh, yeah. I'm tired. I'm exhausted. But I'm very happy to be home. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
That's what I found first. By then I was desperate. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
I've been searching court records, children's panel, minutes, you name it. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
No trace of the children anywhere. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
I was just looking through newspapers round about our date | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
and that leapt out at me. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
Now you have the name of the organisation. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
-Fairbridge. -It wasn't just Fairbridge. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
All sorts of different charities ran these schemes. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Churches, Barnardos. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
Children from deprived backgrounds, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
shipped off for a better life in the colonies. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
This is it. This is all fitting together. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
The scheme was run from the 19th century | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
till - you won't believe this - 1970. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
But there was a wave of migrations to Australia | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
between the mid-'50s and the mid-'60s. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
How big? How many kids? | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
I don't know exactly but it must've been organised. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
I mean, organised at the level of government. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
These children were in care. Local authorities were their guardians. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
For so many of them to be systematically deported, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
it must have been government policy. The Home Secretary would have had | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
to give consent for them to leave the country. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
The Australian Government must've wanted to receive them. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
White Australia, I suppose. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
You're talking about the organised deportation of children in care. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
I don't have any concrete proof yet | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
but the evidence doesn't leave much room for doubt. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
So, who's taking responsibility for what happened to these children | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
once they reached Australia? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Oh, Merv. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
I've got the names of hundreds of people in my suitcase, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
who all want to know who they are. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
I know. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
Who do I ask? Where do I start? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Are you going to look at all that stuff now? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Jet lag. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
I thought you said you were working in the morning. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
I've got to. I've been summoned. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Merv? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
I'm going to have to get back to Australia. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Well, catch your breath first, eh? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
We can see you now. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
-WOMAN: -..and sent it to the other department. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
-Shut the door, please. -For the other department? | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
OK. Take a seat. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Two weeks? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
OK. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
Well, as you know, Rita's filled me in with what you've been up to. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
I've read your report. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
Look, I just want to say that I have kept on top of my case load | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
and I went to Australia in my own time, that was my annual leave. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
-Well, I think that's appalling. -What? What is? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
That you had to use your own holiday to pursue this. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
Oh. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:26 | |
I'm taking this to the social services committee. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
Tell me. What is it you want to do? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
Well, uh, the people that I've met, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
they want to find a record of who they are. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
They just want to know where they came from. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
-What do you need? -Time. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
Time to find their families. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
How long? | 0:29:51 | 0:29:52 | |
Well...a year? | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
How about two? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
Yes, that would be... | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
I'll make a recommendation to the committee. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
So, are you talking about me working on this full-time? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:11 | |
That is what you want, isn't it? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
Yes. Yes, it is. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
Now, how are we going to fund you properly? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
We're going to have raise your profile to try and get | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
some public funding and we need donations. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Have you thought about going to the press? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Merv? | 0:30:35 | 0:30:36 | |
It's being printed in the papers in Sydney and Melbourne too. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
-They're all the same. -I know. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
"Dear Mrs Humphreys, I read the article in the paper. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
"Please could you help me find my mother? | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
"I was sent to Australia in 1957. I have no birth certificate." | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
I'm in trouble, aren't I? | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Have I helped you understand all that, Bob? It's a lot to take in. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
They gave me the wrong name. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
They'd given you the wrong name. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
That's why it's taking so long to find your birth certificate. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
So, which name do I use? | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Who am I? | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
You're the same person. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
But I've got the wrong name. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
You're using a different name from the name on your birth certificate. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
-Do you want to stop for a minute? -No. No, I'm good. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
So, what next? | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Well, what would you like me to do next? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
Thank you all very much for your patience, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
and I'll be with you as soon as I can. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
-I'm very sorry to keep you waiting. -Not a problem. I'm Dan. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Dan, please come in. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
Oh, I'm Len Connelly. I'm with Dan. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Oh, nice to meet you. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
Well, I usually see people on their own, but uh... | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
I'm moral support. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
Right, well, Dan, you'll be fine on your own | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
but if that's what you want... | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
-It's all right. -It's what he wants, yeah. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Well, nice to meet you, Mr Connelly. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
-Uh... right. Shall we? -Yeah. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
So, I reckon if I do have any family, they might be around Doncaster. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
OK, right. Doncaster. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Well, from what you've told me, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
I will be able to start to trace your mother's birth certificate. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Oh, I've tried all of that. I've had the best in the business working on it. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
-Len. -Nothing. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
Can't be done. Cost me a few bob too. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Not that I'm short of a few bob... | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Excuse me. I am trying to listen to Dan. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Well, I reckon you need to see me, as well. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
-Were you a child migrant too? -I've just told you that. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Well, I'm sure that tracing your family is very important to you. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
But right now, this is Dan's time. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
OK, so there are three possibilities. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
We might be able to find your mother's birth certificate, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
and obviously that is what we want and what we're hoping for. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
We might find her and then discover that she's already passed away. | 0:33:53 | 0:34:00 | |
We might... we might not have any luck. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:06 | |
I'm really sorry. Excuse me? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
What are you doing? | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Could you put that down, please? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
I was checking what you're up to. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
I'm sorry, but if you interrupt again, I'm going to have to ask you to leave. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
When are you going to see me? I've got documents the detectives found me. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
They never found my mother. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
Well, if the world's best private detectives weren't able to trace her, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
I'm not really sure what you expect me to do. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Well, I thought you could give it a go. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
I'm afraid I have a backlog of people to see on this trip | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
and I won't be able to fit you in. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
But if you want to send me your documents, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
then I'll see what I can do. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
Right, now, Dan. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:48 | |
What I'm going to need from you is any recollections that you have | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
obviously from your early childhood in Doncaster - names, faces... | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
Well, you've certainly caused quite a stir, Mrs Humphreys. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
There's been a lot of comments | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
since you broke this story in the newspapers. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Well, I didn't exactly break the story. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
People are saying what happened to some of these children | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
-is an outrage. -Would you care to comment on that? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
-Well, I'd say it was, yes. -That's rather a strong word, though. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
I met a woman recently who was sent to Australia at five years of age | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
and she wanted me to tell you | 0:35:23 | 0:35:24 | |
that she lived with 15 other girls in an unheated, unventilated hut | 0:35:24 | 0:35:31 | |
for ten years, and during that time, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
her only possessions were one dress and one pair of shoes. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
And then at age 15, she was told | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
that she had to repay her debt of board and lodging | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
and she was sent to work as unpaid slave labour | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
on a farm that was 50 miles from the nearest road. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
-So what this... -And in all that time, she never knew | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
that she had a mother still living in England | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
who had no idea where she was or what had happened to her. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
I'd like to know what word you would use | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
to describe what that mother and daughter suffered. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
-Mrs Humphreys! -Come on, mate, leave it. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
I've got to talk to you. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
I'd like to take you to dinner. My treat. My treat. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
-I can buy my own dinner, thanks. -Come on, what are you? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-One of those lesbian socialists? -Shut up, Len. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
He's all right. Doesn't know what he's saying. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
-She's turned crimson. -He's all right. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Hey, Mrs Humphreys! Mrs Humphreys, I want an appointment. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
So, how long have you been doing this work? | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
You know what? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
I've been cleaning floors for 40 years. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
First thing they did at Fairbridge when I came off the boat, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
put a mop in my hands. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
"Stop your crying and clean that floor." | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
How old were you? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
I was eight. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
I was crying too. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
Didn't need to put a bucket of water on the floor. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
I was dropping enough water on it. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
That was it. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:21 | |
Scrubbing for 40 years. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
Sometimes... | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
..when I was shining up those floors, I'd think, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
"I wonder what my old mum would think if she could see me now." | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
So you remember your mum? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
Of course. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
Course I do. Can't ever forget your mum, can you? | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
Just don't know where she is. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
He's been in and out of the hospital for years now, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
but we've never seen him the way he was the other night. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
When your program went out on radio, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
he just... he just broke down, he just howled. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
And then all he wanted to do was get a hold of you. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
-I'm glad I could be here. -He's just over here. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
I was only three. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
Someone told me my parents were dead. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Then I was on a boat coming here. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
I grew up in the orphanage. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
You don't want to hear this, Margaret. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
Yes, I do. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
That's why I'm here. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:38 | |
'It was Christmas. I was really excited. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
-'I...was about seven... -SHE SOBS | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
..by then. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
I had this wonderful singing voice, you see. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
Used to give concerts at the orphanage | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
and this...dentist and his wife | 0:39:33 | 0:39:39 | |
asked if I'd come to their home for Christmas Eve | 0:39:39 | 0:39:45 | |
and you know, sing for them. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
TELEPHONE RINGS | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
-Hello? -'Hello.' | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Oh, Merv. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
'Thought I'd take a chance. Couldn't sleep.' | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
-What time is it there? -'Three in the morning. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
-'Just wondered if you were OK.' -Oh, you know. Getting by. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
-'What's wrong?' -Oh. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
It's just...some of the things that I'm hearing... | 0:40:16 | 0:40:22 | |
'Get an earlier flight.' | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
I'll come home just before Christmas, like I promised. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
It's only a week away. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:30 | |
'They were going to keep me over Christmas. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
'I was going to get presents, proper Christmas dinner.' | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
Come here. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:43 | |
'They had a big party. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
'I sang Ave Maria. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
'The woman said I was a little angel.' | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
And the dentist... | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
..dentist and two other men, they took me into the bathroom | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
and uh, they... | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
..they... | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
# Ave Maria... # | 0:41:22 | 0:41:28 | |
-What's wrong? -We can't have that. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
We can't have any of it! | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
-Margaret? Margaret! -Can't have this. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
-We can't have any of this. -Margaret. Hey, stop, stop! | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
So, what do I tell Ben and Rachel? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
"Sorry, Christmas is cancelled." | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Oh, Merv, I missed you. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
I missed you. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
Really sorry. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Christmas back on, then? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
As long as I don't have to do any bloody carol singing. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
FAINT CAROL SINGING | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
Jack? | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
Well, I thought you'd never hurry up and find my mum | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
unless I came and helped you out. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Come in, come in. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
-So you just got here? -Yep, yep. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
Wow! | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
OK. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
Going to this address. Map-reading? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
I think I can do that, yeah. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
Yeah, it's 71 Lord Nelson Street. Thank you. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
Yeah, no. Well, I'd be grateful if she could give me a call. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
Yeah. It's Margaret Humphreys. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
Yes, yes, thank you. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
MUSIC OBSCURES SPEECH | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
She lived over there? | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
-So, where are we off to? -Right. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
We're picking up Nicky from work and we're driving to Tyneside. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
Righto. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
You're Jack? | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
You're little Jack? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
Oh, my God. You used to sit on my lap. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
-You know me? -Yes. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
-You knew me when I was a little boy? -Yeah, yeah, I can see you now. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:18 | |
And you're Nicky. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
-So you knew our mother? -Yeah. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
Oh, she was lovely. Where is she now? | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
Well, we don't know. We lost her. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
We don't remember because we were in children's homes. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
-Oh, wait a minute, that can't be right. -What? | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
Well, the woman I knew would never have put her children in a home. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
She lived for that little boy and girl. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
We think that maybe her relationship went down | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
and she was on her own and she couldn't cope. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
No, she wouldn't have ever lost touch with her babies, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
not while there was breath in her body. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
Well, they sent us away, so she wouldn't have been able to find us. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
I see. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
Oh, that would have broken her into bits. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
What was she like? | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
What did she look like? | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Let me think. She looked a bit like you, actually. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:36 | |
-TV: -'And that was Margaret Humphreys from Nottingham in England. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
'She's claiming thousands of kids had been deported | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
'without their parents' consent. Now we will be taking your calls.' | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
-REPORTER: -'..today denied allegations | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
'surrounding their children's home in Bindoon. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
'The brothers are refuting the claims... | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
'..the British nor the government here in Australia | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
'have taken any responsibility for this - | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
'how would you describe it - deportation?' | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
Yes, it's clearly the organised deportation of children | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
from one country to another. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
And neither the charities nor the church organisations | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
that ran those schemes have been prepared to admit | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
-that any mistakes were made? -No. No, they haven't. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
TAPS ON GLASS | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
-MAN: -How about a speech, Margaret? | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
No, no, really. All right, thank you. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
Well, I want to say thank you to all of you. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
This is the proper launch of the Child Migrants Trust | 0:47:49 | 0:47:55 | |
and it has a home now - this house. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
And without all of the donations and without all of you, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
none of this would have been possible. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
So, thank you for giving me an office in it. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
And I'm really glad I don't have to spend another day | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
working in that hotel room. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
ALL CLAP | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Do you want to grab some food? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:20 | |
-Cup of tea? -Yes, thanks. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
I'm heading off. You know, long drive home. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
-Oh, are you sure, James? -Yeah. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
I don't really know any of these people. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:35 | |
I'm sorry. I don't want to spoil your party. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
You don't know any of them? | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
Well, yeah, yeah. I know the Bindoon boys, of course. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
-Right. -See you, Margaret. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
TELEPHONE RINGS | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
Margaret Humphreys. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
'Listen, you bitch. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
'You tell those whinging bastards to stop talking about Bindoon. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
'If they tell one more lie about the Brothers, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
'just one more, we're coming over there | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
'and I'll fucking finish you myself.' | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
PHONE CLICKS DOWN | 0:49:17 | 0:49:18 | |
Do you enjoy running this slanderous publicity machine of yours? | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
I'm afraid I don't recognise that description of my work. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
I don't represent any newspaper or any television station. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
But you'll happily declare your wild allegations to any of them. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
I haven't made any direct allegations to the press. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
Some of the boys who were sent to your children's home at Bindoon | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
chose to speak to the press when they were approached. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
But none of those contacts were initiated by me. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
Well, since you've stirred things up, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:55 | |
the Christian Brothers have been forced to conduct an internal inquiry | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
into the Boys Towns at Bindoon and elsewhere. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
Now, how have you any idea | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
how much distress you have caused to elderly men | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
who only sought the best? | 0:50:07 | 0:50:08 | |
I'm hearing an awful lot about the distress caused to the Brothers. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
No-one's talking about the distress caused to the children | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
who were supposed to be in their care. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
You're doing all right then, aren't you? | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
They paying you OK, are they? | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
This probably isn't the best way to start this conversation, is it? | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
I don't think you like me very much, Mrs Humphreys. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
All right, I'll be honest with you, then. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
I don't know about the man sitting opposite me. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
But I'm sure that there's a hurt little boy somewhere inside | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
that I'd like very much. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
We're just going to have to take the time to find him. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
And how do I know that you're qualified to do that, Mrs Humphreys? | 0:50:59 | 0:51:04 | |
You'll have to make your own judgement on that, Mr Connolly. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
You'll just have to trust me. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
It's, uh... That's Len Connolly's first step on Australia over there. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:21 | |
Then we were processed in here. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
All these little kids quakin' and shakin' | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
and wondering what on earth they'd been dropped into. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
Brothers were sent one way, sisters another. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
They were all crying into their sleeves, thinking, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
"It can't be this hot all the time, can it?" | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Then we were put on the buses out here. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
It was when I was shoved onto one of them, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
I realised Theresa wasn't coming with us. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
She was, um, one of the girls who looked after us on the way over. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
She'd taken a shine to me. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
Yeah, I was just a little scrap, you know? | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
She made a bit of a pet of me on the voyage over. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
I think I charmed her. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
So when I realised Theresa wasn't coming, I went crazy. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
I was bloody fighting to get to the back. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
I was climbing over everything, trying to get to her. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
Anyway, by the end of that day, I was at the Christian Brothers. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
They'd taken all my clothes. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
They gave me an old shirt and a pair of shorts to wear and, uh... | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
I was cleaning out the rubbish pit at Bindoon. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
Yeah. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
Yeah, come on. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
We don't need to talk about that. I just want to find my mother. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
That's it. Help me with that if you can. I don't need anything else. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
I'm not offering anything else. That's not my place. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
All I'm asking is have you imagined what it might be like if we do find her? | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
Well, let's just find her first, all right? | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
OK, we'll try, but what do you want? | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
To find her, to know who she is. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
You know? To know who I am. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
You've got absolutely no hopes or expectations beyond that? | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
Look, Mrs Humphreys... Thanks, mate. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
I'm sure that you see old boys and girls day in, day out, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
bawling their eyes out, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
telling you how much they miss their dear old mum. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
Well, the truth is, our mums shot through, didn't they? | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
We didn't just fall out of our prams and fly off with Peter Pan, did we? | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
No, our mums didn't want us. That's why we're here. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
Isn't that the truth? | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
No. The truth is actually much more complicated in most cases. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
No, she didn't want me. She put me in a children's home. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
Well, that's all right. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:34 | |
Let's just put a face to the old dear. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
I can sit here all day if you like | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
and bleat on about what a hard life I had at Bindoon. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
All right, let's talk about Bindoon. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
Look, Mrs Humphreys, I've paid my debts. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
I've sourced the Brothers' farm tools through my company. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
I've made donations to the Christian Brothers. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
I've paid my debts. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:56 | |
-Your debts? What do you owe them? -Oh, I don't. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
Look, they raised me, fed me, clothed me, whatever, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
and I've paid it all back. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
I don't see how an eight-year-old boy, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
who's working to grow his own food, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
who has one pair of shorts, one shirt and no shoes, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
can be said to be running up much of a debt. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
Well, no-one can say I owe them anything. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
No, I don't think you do. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:17 | |
But maybe that's the monster living in your head. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
I don't like the idea of you walking around | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
with a monster like that in your head. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
-CHILD: -Mummy! | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
I'm afraid this won't do. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
I'm here to give somebody some really important news. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
They'll remember this day for the rest of their lives. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
Can you show me something else? | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
Jack. Come in. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
Take a seat. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:57 | |
That's... that's beautiful. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
Yes. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:14 | |
So...Merv telephoned me last night. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
And we've had the results of our latest search. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
Have you found my mother? | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
Yes. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
We were too late. She's dead, isn't she? | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
-Yes, she is. -Yeah. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
Uh... | 0:57:02 | 0:57:03 | |
When did she die? | 0:57:08 | 0:57:09 | |
Last year. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
Oh. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
So we were just too late, then? | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
-MAN: -Mrs Humphreys, no-one is suggesting for a minute | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
that the people you represent have not suffered. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
But this has to be placed in its historical context. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
What was done, was done with the very best intentions. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:17 | |
These children were placed in children's homes. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
Without casting any blame, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
their family situations were far from ideal. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
A more modern sensibility might suggest | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
greater effort should have been made to keep families together. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
But at the time, it was genuinely believed | 0:58:31 | 0:58:33 | |
to be in the children's interests to give them a fresh start. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:36 | |
Ultimately, these children were in the care of the British Government. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:40 | |
And it was the Government of Australia and Britain | 0:58:40 | 0:58:43 | |
who were responsible for authorising the migration schemes | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
and if we're talking about historical context, | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
I'll remind you the last migrants were only shipped out 17 years ago. | 0:58:48 | 0:58:51 | |
But we're not here for recriminations. | 0:58:51 | 0:58:53 | |
There's no need for that. | 0:58:53 | 0:58:54 | |
Now the Child Migrants Trust has been created, | 0:58:54 | 0:58:57 | |
we can offer you an opportunity to redress some of the damage | 0:58:57 | 0:59:02 | |
for which your organisations WERE responsible. | 0:59:02 | 0:59:05 | |
These people were deported as children, young children. | 0:59:07 | 0:59:10 | |
They've been deprived of their family, their identity. | 0:59:10 | 0:59:15 | |
They need to find the families they lost. | 0:59:15 | 0:59:19 | |
I know that you'll want to help them do that. | 0:59:19 | 0:59:22 | |
I think my organisation would be prepared to make a contribution | 0:59:26 | 0:59:31 | |
if some trustee arrangement... | 0:59:31 | 0:59:33 | |
BOTH: You can't be a trustee. | 0:59:33 | 0:59:35 | |
We have to be able to say to these children - well, adults now - | 0:59:36 | 0:59:41 | |
that they're safe. | 0:59:41 | 0:59:43 | |
It has to be a neutral service. | 0:59:43 | 0:59:46 | |
What we are offering you, the Government, | 0:59:48 | 0:59:52 | |
is an opportunity to take responsibility | 0:59:52 | 0:59:55 | |
for what happened to these children. | 0:59:55 | 0:59:57 | |
If you could at least tell us whether you have any records | 0:59:57 | 1:00:00 | |
of the child migrants to which you could give us access. | 1:00:00 | 1:00:02 | |
..over 100 years and I can assure you that we're doing everything... | 1:00:02 | 1:00:06 | |
Look, they just want to know who they are! | 1:00:06 | 1:00:10 | |
Well, we said it, didn't we? | 1:00:24 | 1:00:26 | |
Oh, yes. | 1:00:26 | 1:00:28 | |
Excuse me, Mrs Humphreys. | 1:00:28 | 1:00:30 | |
Can I just have a minute of your time? | 1:00:30 | 1:00:33 | |
You say you're speaking as a mother. | 1:00:33 | 1:00:36 | |
But please, take consolation in your own family | 1:00:36 | 1:00:38 | |
rather than meddling with all this. | 1:00:38 | 1:00:40 | |
I mean, how could you possibly understand | 1:00:40 | 1:00:42 | |
the real circumstances of these unfortunate children? | 1:00:42 | 1:00:45 | |
They were living in slums. | 1:00:45 | 1:00:46 | |
They were children of drunks and degenerates. | 1:00:46 | 1:00:48 | |
Come away, Margaret. | 1:00:48 | 1:00:49 | |
-RADIO: -'So you don't accept the British Government has a case to answer?' | 1:00:52 | 1:00:55 | |
'We have every sympathy with the feelings of child migrants.' | 1:00:55 | 1:00:58 | |
'But you take no responsibility?' | 1:00:58 | 1:01:00 | |
'We have no actual responsibility. | 1:01:00 | 1:01:02 | |
'Whatever Margaret Humphreys alleges, the fact is...' | 1:01:02 | 1:01:04 | |
'They were the responsibility of the British Government.' | 1:01:04 | 1:01:07 | |
'The fact is this may have been a distressing episode in history. | 1:01:07 | 1:01:10 | |
'But there's no profit in playing the blame game.' | 1:01:10 | 1:01:12 | |
'Right, well, thank you very much...' | 1:01:12 | 1:01:14 | |
We've got them rattled now. | 1:01:14 | 1:01:16 | |
Legally, they're responsible. They know it, we know it. | 1:01:16 | 1:01:19 | |
We find the paperwork that nails them. They know we will. | 1:01:19 | 1:01:22 | |
-They know the paperwork's out there. -Yeah. | 1:01:22 | 1:01:24 | |
I'm going to find it, Margaret. You know I am. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:27 | |
Yeah. | 1:01:27 | 1:01:28 | |
You all right? | 1:01:33 | 1:01:34 | |
Just tired. I've got an early start. | 1:01:34 | 1:01:38 | |
Len's flight gets in at six. | 1:01:38 | 1:01:40 | |
Here, let me do that. | 1:01:40 | 1:01:41 | |
No, never let it be said I didn't take care of my own family | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
before I started meddling with others. | 1:01:44 | 1:01:46 | |
Hey, hey. Hey. | 1:01:46 | 1:01:49 | |
So it's just us now. | 1:01:58 | 1:02:00 | |
No help coming. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:01 | |
We keep putting them on the spot. | 1:02:01 | 1:02:04 | |
But right now, it is just us. | 1:02:04 | 1:02:06 | |
8,000 miles and I finally get a return trip. | 1:02:11 | 1:02:15 | |
Well, as long as she accepts me, that's all, isn't it? | 1:02:18 | 1:02:21 | |
As long as she doesn't turn me away. | 1:02:21 | 1:02:23 | |
Got a good memory, though. | 1:02:25 | 1:02:28 | |
I remember walking up a green hill with grass under my bare feet. | 1:02:28 | 1:02:33 | |
There was someone pulling me by the hand | 1:02:33 | 1:02:35 | |
because I couldn't walk very well yet. | 1:02:35 | 1:02:37 | |
I was angry | 1:02:37 | 1:02:39 | |
cos I'd been promised a penny or a sweetie or something | 1:02:39 | 1:02:43 | |
and I didn't get it. | 1:02:43 | 1:02:44 | |
It would have been her, wouldn't it, holding my hand? | 1:02:47 | 1:02:50 | |
What's that? | 1:03:04 | 1:03:06 | |
It's a cheque. You can fill in what you like. | 1:03:06 | 1:03:09 | |
You can decide. | 1:03:09 | 1:03:11 | |
You can have that or you can have my loyalty. I don't mind which. | 1:03:11 | 1:03:15 | |
As long as we're square. | 1:03:15 | 1:03:17 | |
All right, then. | 1:03:31 | 1:03:32 | |
Oh, you see that? See that? She's in there. | 1:03:51 | 1:03:54 | |
-Len? -Yeah? | 1:03:54 | 1:03:57 | |
You want me to go in with you? | 1:03:57 | 1:03:58 | |
No, no, no. You'll be right. | 1:03:58 | 1:04:00 | |
No, get yourself a cab back. | 1:04:00 | 1:04:02 | |
-Or there's a cafe up there that... -Len, I'm going to be fine. | 1:04:02 | 1:04:07 | |
Thank you, Margaret. | 1:04:12 | 1:04:14 | |
Thank you. | 1:04:15 | 1:04:17 | |
You're very welcome, Len. | 1:04:17 | 1:04:18 | |
Right. | 1:04:20 | 1:04:22 | |
Here we go, then. | 1:04:22 | 1:04:24 | |
-RADIO: -'The boys' home at Bindoon was closed some time ago.' | 1:05:35 | 1:05:38 | |
'I understand that.' | 1:05:38 | 1:05:40 | |
'The Christian Brothers are being victimised...' | 1:05:40 | 1:05:42 | |
-'Come back to the question.' -'We're considering legal action | 1:05:42 | 1:05:45 | |
'to prevent journalists trespassing on church property.' | 1:05:45 | 1:05:48 | |
I heard you. | 1:05:48 | 1:05:50 | |
Don't think you can come to Perth and tell any lies. | 1:05:50 | 1:05:52 | |
-Excuse me? -Good brothers and sisters | 1:05:52 | 1:05:54 | |
ran decent loving homes for those poor children. | 1:05:54 | 1:05:56 | |
I do not tell lies. | 1:05:56 | 1:05:58 | |
Do you know how much you'll hurt the holy fathers with your lies? | 1:05:58 | 1:06:00 | |
I do not tell lies ever. | 1:06:00 | 1:06:02 | |
It's Margaret Humphreys from the Child Migrants Trust in Australia. | 1:06:17 | 1:06:21 | |
Yes, he'll know what it's regarding. | 1:06:21 | 1:06:24 | |
We've had extensive correspondence on the subject. | 1:06:24 | 1:06:27 | |
Yes. | 1:06:28 | 1:06:29 | |
Well, I would like him to return my call. | 1:06:30 | 1:06:33 | |
Um... Yeah. | 1:06:33 | 1:06:35 | |
And if he doesn't, I will call you back tomorrow. Thank you. | 1:06:35 | 1:06:37 | |
You bitch! You fuckin' evil whore! | 1:06:42 | 1:06:45 | |
Fuckin' open this window! Come on! | 1:06:45 | 1:06:47 | |
Come on! | 1:06:47 | 1:06:48 | |
I'm gonna rip you apart! Fuck, you'll get it! | 1:06:49 | 1:06:52 | |
I can get in any time I like! | 1:06:52 | 1:06:54 | |
BANGING | 1:06:55 | 1:06:57 | |
HE GRUNTS Ahh! | 1:06:57 | 1:06:58 | |
Get out! Get out! | 1:07:00 | 1:07:02 | |
Get out! | 1:07:02 | 1:07:04 | |
Arggh! Bitch! | 1:07:04 | 1:07:06 | |
I can get you any time I like, you bitch! | 1:07:06 | 1:07:08 | |
You tell lies about the Brothers and you see what you get. | 1:07:08 | 1:07:10 | |
You fucking whore! | 1:07:10 | 1:07:12 | |
I'll get you! | 1:07:12 | 1:07:14 | |
CAR ENGINE STARTS | 1:07:24 | 1:07:27 | |
ENGINE NOISE RECEDES | 1:07:30 | 1:07:33 | |
Get home. | 1:07:33 | 1:07:35 | |
'No, I can't.' | 1:07:35 | 1:07:37 | |
Call the police. Get out of that house. | 1:07:39 | 1:07:42 | |
People are depending on me, Merv. CAR HORN TOOTS | 1:07:42 | 1:07:45 | |
I've got a load of appointments. I've got to go. | 1:07:48 | 1:07:50 | |
I'll call you back later. | 1:07:50 | 1:07:53 | |
I heard Bob went out to Bindoon with a camera crew. | 1:08:13 | 1:08:16 | |
Yeah. | 1:08:16 | 1:08:18 | |
That'll stir things up a bit. | 1:08:18 | 1:08:20 | |
Theo said you didn't want to go along. | 1:08:24 | 1:08:26 | |
No, I didn't. | 1:08:29 | 1:08:30 | |
Yeah. Here, stop! | 1:08:38 | 1:08:40 | |
I'll wait for you here. | 1:08:56 | 1:08:58 | |
No, you don't need to wait for me. I'll get a taxi. | 1:08:58 | 1:09:00 | |
I really should get a car. | 1:09:00 | 1:09:02 | |
You don't need a taxi, you don't need a car. I'll wait for you. | 1:09:02 | 1:09:05 | |
Thank you. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:10 | |
Where are we? Where are we? Where are we? | 1:09:15 | 1:09:18 | |
Ah, here we go. | 1:09:21 | 1:09:22 | |
CLEARS THROAT | 1:09:23 | 1:09:25 | |
-GRINDS GEARS -Oops! | 1:09:29 | 1:09:30 | |
Um, it's right. | 1:09:33 | 1:09:35 | |
Right! The other right. | 1:09:35 | 1:09:36 | |
CAR HORN HONKS | 1:09:38 | 1:09:39 | |
-Wanker! -Yeah, sorry, mate. | 1:09:41 | 1:09:43 | |
-Want a bit of classical on? -No. | 1:09:45 | 1:09:47 | |
MUSIC: "Wild World" by Cat Stevens | 1:09:47 | 1:09:49 | |
You can turn that up though. | 1:09:49 | 1:09:51 | |
# Say you want to start something new | 1:09:51 | 1:09:55 | |
# And it's breakin' my heart you're leavin' | 1:09:55 | 1:09:59 | |
# Baby, I'm grievin' | 1:09:59 | 1:10:01 | |
# And if you wanna leave | 1:10:01 | 1:10:03 | |
# Take good care LEN HUMS ALONG | 1:10:03 | 1:10:04 | |
# Hope you have a lot of nice things to wear | 1:10:04 | 1:10:08 | |
# Then a lot of nice things turn bad out there | 1:10:08 | 1:10:12 | |
BOTH SING ALONG # Ooh, baby, baby, it's a wild world | 1:10:15 | 1:10:19 | |
# It's hard to get by just upon a smile | 1:10:21 | 1:10:25 | |
# Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world | 1:10:27 | 1:10:31 | |
# I'll always remember you like a child, girl | 1:10:33 | 1:10:37 | |
# You know I've seen a lot of what the world can do... # | 1:10:39 | 1:10:43 | |
Right? Have a good night. | 1:10:57 | 1:11:00 | |
Jack, what are you doing here? | 1:11:03 | 1:11:05 | |
Well, Merv rang and asked me to come over. | 1:11:05 | 1:11:08 | |
-He thought you might need a bit of company. -What did he say? | 1:11:08 | 1:11:12 | |
He said you needed me here. | 1:11:12 | 1:11:14 | |
GASPS | 1:11:30 | 1:11:31 | |
Sorry, Margaret. Just bringing your tea. | 1:11:31 | 1:11:33 | |
Sorry. | 1:11:33 | 1:11:35 | |
-You got everything you need? -Yeah. | 1:11:38 | 1:11:41 | |
I thought I might sleep out on the veranda. | 1:11:41 | 1:11:43 | |
Don't much like sleeping under a roof. | 1:11:43 | 1:11:46 | |
All right. Whatever you want. | 1:11:46 | 1:11:48 | |
CAR APPROACHES | 1:12:11 | 1:12:14 | |
ENGINE REVS | 1:12:20 | 1:12:22 | |
-MAN: -Fuck you, bitch! | 1:12:30 | 1:12:32 | |
Stay away from Bindoon! | 1:12:32 | 1:12:34 | |
ENGINE REVS | 1:12:34 | 1:12:36 | |
TYRES SCREECH CAR RECEDES | 1:12:39 | 1:12:41 | |
You all right in there, Margaret? | 1:12:44 | 1:12:46 | |
Yeah. | 1:12:46 | 1:12:48 | |
PANTING | 1:13:01 | 1:13:03 | |
I... | 1:13:03 | 1:13:05 | |
I... I can't breathe. | 1:13:05 | 1:13:07 | |
I can't breathe. I can't breathe. | 1:13:07 | 1:13:10 | |
-Oh, really? -Yeah. | 1:13:10 | 1:13:12 | |
PANTING It's my heart. It's my heart. | 1:13:12 | 1:13:16 | |
-Calm down, darling. -MARGARET PANTING | 1:13:16 | 1:13:18 | |
-DISTANT: -Sit down and eat your cereal. | 1:13:20 | 1:13:23 | |
Rachel, come and get your breakfast. | 1:13:23 | 1:13:26 | |
Rachel! | 1:13:29 | 1:13:30 | |
Mum? | 1:13:38 | 1:13:40 | |
Tell them you have to stay here. | 1:13:44 | 1:13:46 | |
Tell them you belong to us. | 1:13:46 | 1:13:49 | |
Rachel. | 1:13:49 | 1:13:51 | |
Rachel. | 1:13:58 | 1:14:00 | |
No, my darling, it's just... | 1:14:00 | 1:14:02 | |
I'm taking you to the doctor. | 1:14:07 | 1:14:09 | |
-I don't need to go. -I'm taking you. | 1:14:09 | 1:14:11 | |
Oh, for God's sake, I can get myself to the doctor. | 1:14:11 | 1:14:15 | |
Look, I only came because my husband insisted. | 1:14:23 | 1:14:25 | |
I just wanted to set his mind at rest. | 1:14:25 | 1:14:27 | |
I know there's nothing wrong with me. | 1:14:27 | 1:14:29 | |
I think you have post-traumatic stress disorder. | 1:14:29 | 1:14:32 | |
I'm sorry but that is rubbish. | 1:14:32 | 1:14:34 | |
Nothing happened to me, it all happened to them. | 1:14:34 | 1:14:37 | |
Absorbing other people's pain is a stress of its own. | 1:14:38 | 1:14:43 | |
I can't stop. | 1:14:45 | 1:14:46 | |
There's no-one else. | 1:14:46 | 1:14:48 | |
If I... | 1:14:48 | 1:14:50 | |
MUFFLED LAUGHTER AND VOICES | 1:16:32 | 1:16:34 | |
-WOMAN: -And she hasn't stopped. | 1:16:38 | 1:16:40 | |
Oh, Margaret. Lovely to see you. | 1:16:40 | 1:16:42 | |
Hello. | 1:16:42 | 1:16:44 | |
Margaret, hi. | 1:16:44 | 1:16:46 | |
Hope you don't mind us dropping in on you. | 1:16:46 | 1:16:48 | |
I was just telling them, Margaret, we had such a good day. | 1:16:50 | 1:16:53 | |
I really wanted to invite you but we know you're so busy. | 1:16:53 | 1:16:56 | |
30 years I was working at that pub. | 1:16:56 | 1:16:59 | |
And they never knew I had a daughter. | 1:16:59 | 1:17:00 | |
She was really keen for me to come over for the retirement party | 1:17:00 | 1:17:03 | |
but we didn't know what we were going to tell people. | 1:17:03 | 1:17:06 | |
-Then Bill says... -Bill's one of the regulars. | 1:17:06 | 1:17:08 | |
"Who's this lovely young lady, Vera?" | 1:17:08 | 1:17:10 | |
He's ancient, see, so... | 1:17:10 | 1:17:13 | |
And I said, "This is my daughter, Bill. | 1:17:13 | 1:17:16 | |
"My daughter Charlotte." | 1:17:16 | 1:17:18 | |
-And he says... -Never even blinked. | 1:17:18 | 1:17:20 | |
"She looks just like you." | 1:17:20 | 1:17:22 | |
-He could tell. -Anyone could tell. | 1:17:22 | 1:17:25 | |
And there we were in front of them all, together. | 1:17:25 | 1:17:28 | |
Mother and daughter. | 1:17:28 | 1:17:30 | |
-I tell you, Margaret... -It was the happiest moment... | 1:17:30 | 1:17:33 | |
-BOTH: Of my life. -Both of us. | 1:17:33 | 1:17:35 | |
We just... We just felt... whole. | 1:17:35 | 1:17:41 | |
At last. | 1:17:41 | 1:17:43 | |
Nothing missing. | 1:17:43 | 1:17:46 | |
I said, "We have to come and tell Margaret." | 1:17:46 | 1:17:48 | |
But we didn't even know if you'd be here, you're so busy. | 1:17:48 | 1:17:51 | |
So when are you back off to Australia? | 1:17:51 | 1:17:54 | |
Well, as soon as this lot can spare me. | 1:17:57 | 1:17:59 | |
There's a chilled Chardonnay on the table there for you. | 1:18:21 | 1:18:24 | |
Margaret River. Bit young but hitting its stride, I reckon. | 1:18:24 | 1:18:28 | |
I didn't come here to drink, Len. | 1:18:28 | 1:18:30 | |
I thought you wanted to talk. | 1:18:30 | 1:18:32 | |
I do. I've got some soup too. It's home-cooked. | 1:18:32 | 1:18:34 | |
-I can cook, you know. -I'm sure you can. | 1:18:36 | 1:18:38 | |
-You look hungry enough. -I've already eaten. | 1:18:38 | 1:18:41 | |
What was it you wanted to say? | 1:18:41 | 1:18:44 | |
You're a difficult woman to entertain, Mrs Humphreys. | 1:18:44 | 1:18:47 | |
All right. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:52 | |
Look, um, all this TV coverage, it's stirred everything up, Margaret. | 1:19:10 | 1:19:15 | |
It's got the boys talking. | 1:19:15 | 1:19:17 | |
And, um, I've been watching how the boys are around you, | 1:19:17 | 1:19:22 | |
and, uh, not speaking out of turn, you know what I'm talking about. | 1:19:22 | 1:19:25 | |
You're like a sister to them. | 1:19:27 | 1:19:29 | |
You're family after everything you've done. | 1:19:29 | 1:19:32 | |
You know? Only family most of us will ever have anyway. | 1:19:32 | 1:19:36 | |
I'm not sure that family is really the right word. | 1:19:36 | 1:19:38 | |
Well, that's how we feel. | 1:19:38 | 1:19:40 | |
No, but you're right, it's... it's not real. | 1:19:40 | 1:19:45 | |
Cos you haven't been there, have you? | 1:19:47 | 1:19:50 | |
You've heard about our childhood but you haven't touched our childhood. | 1:19:50 | 1:19:54 | |
Cos you haven't been there. | 1:19:54 | 1:19:55 | |
Where? | 1:19:55 | 1:19:57 | |
To Bindoon. | 1:19:57 | 1:19:58 | |
I'm, uh... I'm asking you to come to Bindoon with me. | 1:20:00 | 1:20:04 | |
No. | 1:20:06 | 1:20:08 | |
Well, have a think about it, Margaret. | 1:20:10 | 1:20:12 | |
Look, Len, what you all suffered at Bindoon, that's your history. | 1:20:12 | 1:20:18 | |
But it's not mine. | 1:20:18 | 1:20:20 | |
I have to be careful. I... | 1:20:22 | 1:20:26 | |
I'm not, um... | 1:20:26 | 1:20:28 | |
It wouldn't be appropriate for me to get too close to all of that. | 1:20:28 | 1:20:32 | |
It's... Well, it wouldn't be right. | 1:20:32 | 1:20:35 | |
No, no, you'll be right. I'll look after you. | 1:20:35 | 1:20:38 | |
No, Len, I don't want to. | 1:20:38 | 1:20:40 | |
I don't have to go there and I don't want to. | 1:20:41 | 1:20:45 | |
OK, OK, but look at it from the old boys' point of view. | 1:20:46 | 1:20:50 | |
That's like saying that you can't look at who they are. | 1:20:50 | 1:20:53 | |
Is that what they're saying? | 1:20:53 | 1:20:56 | |
Well, you have a think about it, Margaret. | 1:20:56 | 1:20:58 | |
Maybe that's the monster living in your head. | 1:20:58 | 1:21:01 | |
I don't like to think of you walking around | 1:21:01 | 1:21:05 | |
with a monster like that in your head. | 1:21:05 | 1:21:07 | |
Well, we should be there in a couple of hours. | 1:21:31 | 1:21:33 | |
It used to take six before they graded the road. | 1:21:33 | 1:21:36 | |
God. You should have seen it - | 1:21:36 | 1:21:39 | |
40 or 50 little nippers bouncing around in the back of an open truck, | 1:21:39 | 1:21:42 | |
eating dust and flies, crying for their mums. | 1:21:42 | 1:21:45 | |
We thought we'd been dropped off of the end of the earth. | 1:21:45 | 1:21:48 | |
You all right? | 1:22:31 | 1:22:33 | |
See it from here first. | 1:22:53 | 1:22:55 | |
Is it what you expected? | 1:23:21 | 1:23:23 | |
I didn't know it would be so big. | 1:23:23 | 1:23:25 | |
And I didn't know it would be so beautiful. | 1:23:27 | 1:23:30 | |
The boys put every stone of that building together. | 1:23:30 | 1:23:33 | |
I know. | 1:23:33 | 1:23:35 | |
The cement would burn your feet. | 1:23:38 | 1:23:42 | |
We'd no shoes. | 1:23:42 | 1:23:44 | |
The cement would burn the cuts on our feet | 1:23:44 | 1:23:46 | |
and the sores on our hands and knees. | 1:23:46 | 1:23:49 | |
All day, in blazing heat, no rest, no water. | 1:23:49 | 1:23:55 | |
I was nine-years-old | 1:23:55 | 1:23:57 | |
and I was lifting rocks the size of my upper body. | 1:23:57 | 1:24:02 | |
And he's yelling at us, | 1:24:03 | 1:24:06 | |
"You weak, weak, pitiful sons of whores." | 1:24:06 | 1:24:10 | |
We built stations of the cross. | 1:24:10 | 1:24:13 | |
But who was crucified, huh? | 1:24:13 | 1:24:16 | |
Tell me that. | 1:24:16 | 1:24:18 | |
You all right to go down? | 1:24:20 | 1:24:21 | |
Suppose they don't let us in. | 1:24:23 | 1:24:25 | |
There's a swimming pool at the back of the building. | 1:24:25 | 1:24:28 | |
I paid for it. They'll let us in. | 1:24:28 | 1:24:30 | |
He had this... he had this big knobby stick. | 1:25:03 | 1:25:06 | |
And he would crack you over the skull with it. | 1:25:06 | 1:25:11 | |
Leather belts. Fan belt from the tractor. | 1:25:11 | 1:25:15 | |
Anything that would give you a good wallop, you know? | 1:25:15 | 1:25:18 | |
They'll still be having their breakfast. Feel like a cup of tea? | 1:25:21 | 1:25:24 | |
Come on. | 1:25:25 | 1:25:27 | |
Morning, brothers. | 1:26:07 | 1:26:08 | |
I've brought Mrs Humphreys | 1:26:13 | 1:26:15 | |
to have a look around the old place if that's all right. | 1:26:15 | 1:26:18 | |
Come through. | 1:26:21 | 1:26:22 | |
There you go. | 1:26:39 | 1:26:40 | |
Is there any chance of a cuppa? | 1:26:44 | 1:26:46 | |
We can do better than a chipped cup, can't we, brother? | 1:27:25 | 1:27:28 | |
'We'd hear one of the brothers coming.' | 1:27:34 | 1:27:38 | |
Just his footsteps on the wooden floor. | 1:27:38 | 1:27:41 | |
You'd be lying there in the wet sheets and you're thinking, | 1:27:41 | 1:27:45 | |
"Oh, please, God... Please, God, don't let it be me." | 1:27:45 | 1:27:49 | |
He would make you strip naked | 1:27:49 | 1:27:52 | |
and get on the tables with everybody watching you. | 1:27:52 | 1:27:57 | |
Don't know where I thought I could run to, | 1:27:57 | 1:28:00 | |
there's nothing there for miles. | 1:28:00 | 1:28:01 | |
He came after me on horseback. | 1:28:01 | 1:28:05 | |
When he caught me... | 1:28:05 | 1:28:07 | |
..he tied me to a tree. | 1:28:09 | 1:28:11 | |
And he, uh... | 1:28:11 | 1:28:13 | |
He... | 1:28:15 | 1:28:17 | |
'You probably can't believe me.' | 1:28:22 | 1:28:24 | |
'Of course I believe you.' | 1:28:31 | 1:28:33 | |
'The fucker raped me, Margaret.' | 1:28:40 | 1:28:43 | |
Hey, I think you might have forgotten something, brother. | 1:28:46 | 1:28:49 | |
TAPS LID ON TEAPOT | 1:28:49 | 1:28:52 | |
I'll fix it up, shall I? | 1:28:52 | 1:28:54 | |
Didn't matter if he split your skull open, he'd keep whacking away. | 1:29:08 | 1:29:12 | |
You just thought... | 1:29:12 | 1:29:15 | |
"I'm nothing now. | 1:29:17 | 1:29:19 | |
"Nothing at all." | 1:29:19 | 1:29:20 | |
Who's gonna... Who's gonna look after me? | 1:29:23 | 1:29:25 | |
Who's gonna look after me? I'm nobody. | 1:29:27 | 1:29:31 | |
Have I disturbed you, brothers? | 1:29:53 | 1:29:56 | |
Have I frightened you? | 1:29:57 | 1:29:59 | |
What have you got to be frightened of? | 1:30:01 | 1:30:04 | |
Grown men like you. | 1:30:04 | 1:30:06 | |
Look at that, Margaret. | 1:30:42 | 1:30:45 | |
Can't see another house. Nothing but bush. | 1:30:45 | 1:30:49 | |
No-one would find you here. | 1:30:51 | 1:30:53 | |
He'd wait for me after dark, Brother Norman. | 1:30:56 | 1:30:59 | |
He took a shine to me. I was a favourite or something, I suppose. | 1:30:59 | 1:31:04 | |
I don't know. | 1:31:04 | 1:31:06 | |
You just think, "I'll live through this. It'll stop one day." | 1:31:06 | 1:31:10 | |
Bloody years. | 1:31:13 | 1:31:15 | |
BIRD SCREECHES | 1:31:19 | 1:31:20 | |
Margaret, have a look at that. Black cockatoo. | 1:31:20 | 1:31:24 | |
Oh, there'd be flocks of them over here sometimes. | 1:31:24 | 1:31:27 | |
They'd sound like trains going over your head. | 1:31:27 | 1:31:29 | |
-You all right? -Yeah. | 1:31:29 | 1:31:32 | |
You've gone a funny colour. | 1:31:32 | 1:31:34 | |
I'll just get you a drink. | 1:31:34 | 1:31:35 | |
There you go. | 1:31:49 | 1:31:50 | |
-You all right? -I'm fine. It's just the heat. | 1:31:53 | 1:31:55 | |
OK. | 1:31:55 | 1:31:56 | |
Know what your problem is, Mrs H? | 1:31:56 | 1:31:57 | |
You don't look after yourself properly. | 1:31:57 | 1:31:59 | |
You won't let anyone else do it either. | 1:31:59 | 1:32:01 | |
Len, it's not for anybody else to look after me. | 1:32:01 | 1:32:03 | |
I've been loved and looked after my entire life. | 1:32:03 | 1:32:06 | |
It's your turn now. But you never get it. | 1:32:06 | 1:32:09 | |
Everybody thinks there's going to be this big cathartic moment | 1:32:09 | 1:32:13 | |
when the wrongs are righted and the wounds healed, | 1:32:13 | 1:32:15 | |
but it's not going to happen. | 1:32:15 | 1:32:17 | |
I can't give you back what you've lost. | 1:32:17 | 1:32:20 | |
Well, there's plenty of other people in that boat. | 1:32:23 | 1:32:25 | |
Well, it's not enough, is it, Len? It's never enough. | 1:32:25 | 1:32:29 | |
Jeez, old Bindoon, it shook you up all right, didn't it? | 1:32:32 | 1:32:35 | |
No, I'm fine. | 1:32:35 | 1:32:37 | |
It should shake me up. I'm the one who should be shaking. | 1:32:39 | 1:32:41 | |
But even if I was lying here in the dirt bawling like a kid, | 1:32:43 | 1:32:48 | |
I couldn't feel it all, could I? | 1:32:48 | 1:32:50 | |
Isn't that what you'd tell me? | 1:32:50 | 1:32:52 | |
I had to stop crying when I was eight. | 1:32:53 | 1:32:55 | |
I don't know how to start now. | 1:32:55 | 1:32:57 | |
But YOU feel it. | 1:32:59 | 1:33:01 | |
You feel it for all of us because we can't, you do. | 1:33:01 | 1:33:05 | |
No, you're fighting for us, Margaret. You're in there for us. | 1:33:05 | 1:33:08 | |
You're on our side. | 1:33:08 | 1:33:09 | |
So let the rest go. | 1:33:09 | 1:33:11 | |
Just let the rest go. | 1:33:11 | 1:33:15 | |
What you're doing is enough. | 1:33:17 | 1:33:19 | |
It's more than anyone else has ever given me. | 1:33:22 | 1:33:24 | |
Happy Christmas. | 1:33:56 | 1:33:58 | |
-And happy Christmas. -Oh! | 1:34:00 | 1:34:03 | |
Ooh! | 1:34:06 | 1:34:08 | |
Happy Christmas, darling. | 1:34:12 | 1:34:15 | |
Here you go, love. | 1:34:22 | 1:34:24 | |
Happy Christmas. | 1:34:24 | 1:34:25 | |
So, what are you going to give all of us for Christmas, Ben? | 1:34:25 | 1:34:28 | |
I gave you my mum. | 1:34:28 | 1:34:31 | |
So you did. | 1:34:38 | 1:34:39 | |
So you did, darling, and we love you for it. | 1:34:39 | 1:34:43 | |
Hear, hear. | 1:34:43 | 1:34:44 | |
Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. | 1:35:06 | 1:35:10 | |
Don't start snivelling. | 1:35:10 | 1:35:12 | |
Bloody hell, woman, what are you trying to do to me? | 1:35:13 | 1:35:16 | |
-See you in a couple of weeks. -See you in a couple of weeks. | 1:35:22 | 1:35:26 |