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-And how are you?

-I am fine.

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That's very good.

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This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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Paolo Macchiarini had created headlines

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all over the world

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when he implanted the first plastic trachea into a human being.

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-REPORTERS:

-What seems like the plot from a science-fiction novel...

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We're just a few years away from this happening -

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all new organs being built in a lab.

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Karolinska's star surgeon seemed to be about to solve

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one of the great challenges of the medical world.

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-REPORTER:

-Ground-breaking surgery gave a man back his trachea...

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But something was wrong.

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It is not collapsing.

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The plastic tracheas were not working as they should.

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When patient after patient died,

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doctors began to wonder what was going on.

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By 2015,

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Macchiarini's operations were under investigation by the police.

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The management at the world-famous Karolinska in Stockholm, Sweden

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had already been alerted to evidence that their star employee,

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Macchiarini, had been falsifying scientific reports

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and risking patients' lives.

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I had come to realise that this story is about so much more

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than just Paolo Macchiarini.

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How valued is a human life at the cutting edge of research?

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Does a human life have a price?

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I didn't do anything wrong.

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I just did my job.

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I had been following Paolo for almost a year

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and, still, so many questions remained unanswered.

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It seemed Paolo had been performing deadly experiments on human beings.

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But would he really have intentionally endangered

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his patients' lives?

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During my year of filming, I followed him all over the world.

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On one of his journeys,

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he met an old friend and fellow surgeon.

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I was contemplating the criticism against Paolo...

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..that the risks he'd taken had been too big...

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..that he hadn't been sufficiently prepared...

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See? Just on time.

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..and that he hadn't told the truth afterwards.

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Paolo remained quiet.

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But his colleague, Gebitekin,

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gave his thoughts on what made a good surgeon.

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A good surgeon makes careful preparations in advance...

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..leaving as few unforeseen problems as possible.

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But was this the case with Paolo's plastic trachea patients?

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Most of them were dead.

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It was at the Karolinska Institute

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where Paolo's plastic trachea method had been created.

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Grinnemo and Corbascio had been collaborating

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with Macchiarini's team for years.

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Both had made contributions to Macchiarini's scientific studies.

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But after a while, a conflict arose,

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concerning applications and grants...

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..and the collaboration ended.

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During 2013,

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more and more people at the hospital realised that Paolo's patients

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weren't in a good condition.

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Grinnemo and three of his colleagues became convinced

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that there were serious issues with the plastic trachea.

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But Paolo portrayed his method as successful.

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There was a risk that it would still be attempted in other countries.

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Paolo was reported for alleged

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scientific falsification. His entire credibility was at stake.

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He could end up in prison.

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I was attacked brutally and, er...

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vehemently,

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with unfounded...

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..allegations, that they involved them myself, so...

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..we need to clear the name of everybody.

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And that's why I'm fighting for it.

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The hospital seemed to be taking Paolo's side.

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A police report was filed and one of the doctors was questioned.

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He and his three colleagues who had made the complaint were threatened

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with an official warning from the hospital.

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The Karolinska Institute responded with silence but, eventually,

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they appointed an independent investigator.

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Bengt Gerdin was commissioned to assess Paolo's scientific papers.

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Bengt Gerdin compared Macchiarini's scientific papers

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with Karolinska's patient records.

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By May 2015, Gerdin's work was complete.

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Gerdin concluded that Macchiarini

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was guilty of scientific falsification.

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The news made global headlines.

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If Paolo was found guilty,

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his research papers would probably be retracted.

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It could spell the end of his research work round the world.

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I have been depicted on the one angle,

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which is the angle of the media,

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as you said, as a criminal,

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as one that doesn't care about anything and so forth,

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which is totally untrue -

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not according to me, but according to the facts -

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and people have this perception.

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But it hadn't been settled yet.

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The Karolinska Institute still hadn't taken an official decision

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as to whether or not they would act on Gerdin's recommendations.

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Paolo's only chance was to prove to the Vice Chancellor

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that he hadn't falsified his results.

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I don't have that much time, so we need to hurry up.

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In the last year, I have been attacked so many times.

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My conversations with patients have been recorded,

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my finances have been investigated,

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My animal logbooks have been scrutinised

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and my research data re-evaluated.

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It's difficult. It's difficult to be attacked and be on the front pages.

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At least we would have done something wrong,

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then I would understand it,

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but I believe we didn't, so let's wait tomorrow.

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August, 2015.

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The day for the decision had arrived.

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A lot was at stake.

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Karolinska Hospital had approved his method of surgery...

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..and the Karolinska Institute had vouched scientifically

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for his research.

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If Paolo fell,

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the whole of Karolinska was at risk of falling with him.

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I couldn't quite believe what I heard.

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The Vice Chancellor had cleared Paolo of almost all the accusations.

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The Vice Chancellor stated that this decision was based on new evidence

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submitted by Paolo and his collaborators.

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But these additions had only been assessed internally,

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by Karolinska's management.

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The independent investigator, Bengt Gerdin,

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had not been asked to examine them.

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As I read through the new documents,

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I found no real explanation to the Vice Chancellor's decision.

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I had now followed Paolo over an extended period

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and I had seen far too much.

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Out of all of Paolo's plastic trachea patients,

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only two were still alive.

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Dmitri Onogda's plastic trachea never functioned...

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..but it was removed and he survived.

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Yasim Cetir had been close to dying many times.

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In order to survive, she now needed constant intensive care.

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The other patients had died.

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Andemariam Beyene.

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Christopher Lyles.

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Alexandra Zozulya.

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Sadiq Kanaan.

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Hannah Warren.

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And Julia Tuulik.

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It was as if nothing had been learnt from their deaths

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and Paolo was allowed to carry on his work.

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I very much enjoy the fact that now...

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..we are, again, back to science and clinic...

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..and not

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lawyer stuff and so forth.

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So, that's a good thing.

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Interesting. How fast do you think you can be moving, for example,

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with the trachea now? What's your time?

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Well, the timeline is that...

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..we would like to wait the six months...

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..follow-up time, which would end probably in March,

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if everything goes well. And then, immediately start with the...

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..non-human primates.

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Probably by the end of next year...

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..it would be reasonable to think to restart the feasibility

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and then the clinical trial.

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Only a few weeks had passed since the acquittal...

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..and Paolo was already planning new operations on humans.

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When I began to film Paolo nearly a year earlier,

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he had made a demand...

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..that I wouldn't ask about the accusations

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until Karolinska had made a decision.

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Interesting. Something you can talk about?

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No, because the deal was that we would not talk about this.

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You remember that?

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The day had finally come.

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I had gone over everything I knew about Paolo and his operations.

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How are you?

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I am...fine.

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That's good.

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I knew that this was likely to be the last interview

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I would ever get with Paolo.

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I needed answers.

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Had Paolo intentionally risked the lives of his patients?

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A few months earlier,

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I had met a doctor who had prepared Paolo's tracheas,

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ahead of the operations.

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Philipp Jungebluth had had Paolo as his mentor during medical school...

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..and he was now Paolo's closest colleague.

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Philipp Jungebluth is... almost a son of mine.

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Probably he is, right now, the most hard-working man that I have,

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so thank you, Philipp.

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Philipp explained how they'd been thinking at the start.

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But it took some time before I really understood

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what he was saying.

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I mean, of course, this system cannot be perfect

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at the early years, in the early moment of this new technology,

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and you can just learn it in the clinic.

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Some parts of it, at least.

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It seemed as though they had decided, early on,

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to develop the method, in part, on the operating table,

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instead of thoroughly testing it,

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as one normally would with new and dangerous methods of treatment.

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The first plastic trachea was a big step into the unknown.

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We did not test it prior to transplantation,

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prior the first transplantation, because there was no time.

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We had this patient, we had this scenario, this acute scenario,

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where we know that, OK, we cannot wait half a year.

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So, the plastic trachea hadn't been implanted in animals

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before testing it on the first human being.

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Therefore, it was a gamble when they put a plastic trachea

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into Andemariam Beyene.

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And they would continue to gamble.

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At least three, probably four, more patients

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would receive plastic tracheas

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before they had been tested on a single rat.

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There were a couple of tests of plastic tracheas on rats,

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here at the KI, that were started sometime...

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August 2012 or something like that.

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Is that the animal work on synthetic tracheas that you've been doing?

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We did animal studies pre-clinically in rats, with bio-deficent scaffold.

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They are not published yet and we started before.

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So, you have unpublished studies before that?

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Yeah.

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And that was at KI or..?

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It was at KI, yeah.

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'But I couldn't find any such animal tests,'

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nor could I find any approvals.

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Because if you just look at what is published

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-and what has been approved of, for experimentation...

-Mm-hm.

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..it's only those two rat...

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-..rat experiments.

-OK, so what?

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-What do you want to say?

-Because, before the rats,

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you put the synthetic scaffold into five patients.

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To me, that seems extraordinary.

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Before the rats, I put...

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That's a wrong statement.

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But if I just look at the chronology,

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I see five surgeries,

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no rats,

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-no pigs, no animal experiments. And, then, animal experiments.

-Uh-huh.

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I mean, should I not ask that?

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Are you sure about this? Are you sure about this?

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Why you don't go to the lab and you look at data in a lab book?

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Here or in Russia?

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How do you know that we didn't do animal studies in Russia?

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When I confronted Paolo, he simply changed his story.

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He had no longer carried out these unknown animal studies in Sweden,

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but somewhere in Russia.

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But, despite not having tested the trachea on animals

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before implanting it in the first humans,

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the management at the Karolinska Institute still claimed this

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to be the case.

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In a document from autumn 2013,

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they wrote that all surgeries were preceded by all the necessary lab

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and animal tests.

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'Johan Bratt doesn't want to explain how they had

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'skipped over the animal tests.'

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'And to Paolo, the question only seemed to provoke annoyance.'

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I've been scouring the published field for synthetic rat tracheas...

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We didn't do any animal study that involves large animal,

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of course not. We didn't have the time.

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But the material was proven, the material was studied.

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We used fibres that were approved by the FDA.

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And now, all the studies are coming.

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If you have a clinical situation where you are...

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..forced to take a risk, then you take it,

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if you see any chance to help the patient.

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Paolo's point seemed to be that he had been forced to take shortcuts,

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as his patients had been so seriously ill.

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His employers agreed with him.

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The hospital and the Institute claimed the same thing...

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..that Macchiarini's plastic tracheas

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saved the lives of those who were acutely ill and dying.

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But how short should life expectancy be for any hospital to resort

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to unknown and untried methods?

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What was really the case with the first plastic trachea patient,

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Andemariam?

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How ill was he when he underwent surgery?

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Andemariam had previously had a slow-growing cancer in his trachea.

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He'd been operated on and received radiotherapy and, at first,

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it had seemed successful.

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But at a routine examination,

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his doctor had discovered a growth in Andemariam's throat.

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The doctors felt they were not able to handle his case in Iceland

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and began to look for specialist help.

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Karolinska Hospital suggested Paolo Macchiarini.

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From this point, the stories begin to differ.

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One patient was referred from Iceland

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that was given a life expectancy of six months.

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We decided that there was a risk of suffocation.

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He was very short of breath when he arrived in Stockholm.

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He could not really speak one sentence without stopping...

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He had this... HE MAKES RATTLING BREATHING SOUND

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We were in need of something now and not tomorrow.

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Jungebluth, Macchiarini, Hamsten and Bratt

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describe his condition as acute.

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But this wasn't Andemariam's view of it.

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When he wasn't busy with examinations,

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he often left the hospital.

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He met friends and went for long walks.

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They went to cafes and restaurants.

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And Andemariam was well enough to travel to some friends,

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up in Sundsvall.

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When he spoke to Icelandic television, he didn't seem

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to believe that his condition had needed urgent treatment.

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When I was going from Iceland to Sweden, I didn't know that it would

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be such a big operation.

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But then, when I met the doctor, the Italian -

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Dr Paolo - then, he said...

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.."It will be removed at the throat

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"and we will put another one, but this will be synthetic."

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At the press conference, one year after the operation,

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Paolo remembered their meeting.

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The first reaction was just to look at me, to say, you are crazy.

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And he said, "Well..." and I said, "Yes, I am."

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I was very scared, very terrified.

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And the other thing which made me a bit scared was that...

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..this was happening for the first time.

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"How much is the success rate?"

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And I said, "I don't know."

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"Why?" "I never did it before."

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I said, no. I just said, no.

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"But this is your only chance you have right now."

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Andemariam had not seen his condition as acute

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and he'd been terrified of the operation -

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the first one of its kind in the world.

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And yet, he agreed to it.

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He told me straight, you know, "We did not try this to a human being.

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"We tried this into pigs and animals",

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so maybe it was working for the animals, so...

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Andemariam had believed the tracheas had already been tried on animals,

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even though this wasn't the case.

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And this is also what his widow, Merhawit, believed for a long time.

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Paolo had given Andemariam a certificate to sign.

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It said that the surgery was his only chance of survival.

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He was very confident.

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Enough to make me persuaded,

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to make me believe in this.

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Andemariam lived for two and a half years with the plastic trachea.

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We know for sure that Andemariam's cancer was a very relatively

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slow-growing type.

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No-one knows how long he would have lived

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if he had declined the plastic trachea.

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I don't see that there was a clear-cut...

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-..acute...

-You are insinuating that we took a decision,

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we doctors, or whoever, that was not necessary,

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above the line.

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That's a huge accusation.

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And what would your reply be?

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I don't reply to this accusation.

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Why you don't ask all these

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health care providers that are here at KI?

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Because you didn't.

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Obviously, I will, I will. But you are...

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I think that's courtesy to ask you.

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I am, I am, I am, I am. I mean, I'm not God, I'm not above the line.

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I am a man, a human being, that does...

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..mistakes all the time.

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But do you see why I ask you?

0:29:100:29:12

-I mean...

-No, I don't see it. It's...

0:29:120:29:15

That's a visit from you that I didn't expect.

0:29:170:29:19

Andemariam's operation became Paolo's most important.

0:29:210:29:25

It was through this surgery that his technique became known to the world.

0:29:250:29:29

-REPORTER:

-In Sweden, they've carried out the world's first transplant

0:29:290:29:32

of a synthetic organ...

0:29:320:29:34

And in the articles from the first year's outcome,

0:29:340:29:37

it says that the plastic trachea was functioning better and better.

0:29:370:29:41

But Andemariam's autopsy report had shown that the trachea

0:29:420:29:47

was actually heavily inflamed,

0:29:470:29:50

full of dead tissue and that it had become almost completely loose.

0:29:500:29:55

Could something that had ended so badly

0:29:560:29:59

really be as positive as Paolo had depicted?

0:29:590:30:02

Or did Paolo not describe the whole truth in his articles?

0:30:040:30:07

In August 2011, Andemariam was examined in Iceland.

0:30:120:30:16

The work carried out there makes up an important part

0:30:180:30:20

of the scientific base for the first article on his plastic trachea.

0:30:200:30:25

This is two months after the operation and the Icelandic doctors

0:30:260:30:31

were about to examine Andemariam's plastic trachea.

0:30:310:30:34

With a little pair of forceps,

0:30:420:30:44

they attempted to cut small fragments

0:30:440:30:47

from the surface of the plastic,

0:30:470:30:48

in a so-called biopsy.

0:30:480:30:50

But it seemed difficult to cut any tissue samples from the plastic.

0:30:580:31:02

In the end, they only managed to cut off a few tiny pieces of plastic.

0:31:260:31:30

When the pieces were analysed,

0:31:450:31:47

individual cells were found.

0:31:470:31:49

They were not healthy trachea cells but, in theory,

0:31:510:31:54

could possibly generate them.

0:31:540:31:56

Most of the tissue was dead,

0:31:590:32:01

infected and covered in fungus.

0:32:010:32:03

But in his article, Paolo exaggerated the few positives,

0:32:270:32:32

claiming that large portions of tissue seemed to be on their way

0:32:320:32:36

to develop into a healthy trachea.

0:32:360:32:38

He also wrongly stated that the plastic trachea was completely free

0:32:400:32:44

from fungus and bacteria.

0:32:440:32:46

Since the Vice Chancellor had himself exonerated Macchiarini

0:33:300:33:34

from dishonesty in his reports,

0:33:340:33:37

he ought to have been able to answer this.

0:33:370:33:39

But Hamsten still seemed convinced

0:33:400:33:42

that the discrepancies were mere details

0:33:420:33:46

and believed that the surgery had been a success.

0:33:460:33:48

But Andemariam's wife, Merhawit, has a very different view.

0:34:050:34:09

She says that, even if Andemariam had only lived a few more months

0:34:110:34:16

without the operation,

0:34:160:34:18

it would still have been better than suffering for two and a half years.

0:34:180:34:21

Merhawit's side of the story isn't represented

0:34:380:34:40

in Paolo's scientific works.

0:34:400:34:42

In one of his articles,

0:34:440:34:46

he describes the state of Andemariam's plastic trachea

0:34:460:34:49

after one year.

0:34:490:34:51

In the article, Macchiarini claims that his patient

0:34:510:34:54

had "an almost normal airway".

0:34:540:34:57

This is how a normal airway should look.

0:35:010:35:03

Here you see lots of small blood vessels -

0:35:050:35:09

they are keeping the trachea alive.

0:35:090:35:12

Everything is covered by fine pinkish membrane,

0:35:120:35:15

but when I see a film from Andemariam's examination

0:35:160:35:19

shortly before the anniversary,

0:35:190:35:21

I wonder how anyone could say that he had an almost normal airway.

0:35:210:35:26

The camera is on its way down through a tube

0:35:290:35:32

in Andemariam's throat.

0:35:320:35:33

Deep down, you can see something white,

0:35:350:35:38

the edge of the plastic trachea.

0:35:380:35:40

Down in the plastic part, you can see mucus,

0:35:440:35:47

which Andemariam is unable to cough up.

0:35:470:35:50

And to the left, where the plastic meets the natural trachea,

0:35:540:35:58

it's bleeding and pulsating.

0:35:580:36:00

And there is a hole, a hole directly into the rest of the body -

0:36:010:36:05

a so-called fistula.

0:36:050:36:07

This is what a healthy airway looks like.

0:36:090:36:12

And this is how the same area looks down towards Andemariam's lungs.

0:36:160:36:20

The little black dot near the middle of the picture

0:36:220:36:25

is all that remains of Andemariam's airway.

0:36:250:36:28

The rest is clogged up by scar tissue.

0:36:300:36:32

The right lung is more or less cut off.

0:36:340:36:36

The doctors are forced to pull off large bits of scar tissue,

0:36:380:36:42

in order for it to open up.

0:36:420:36:43

They also need to insert a metal net, to keep the airway open.

0:36:450:36:48

There is nothing about this in Paolo's article.

0:36:540:36:57

The only thing it says is that the airway is almost normal...

0:36:590:37:03

..and that his lung function has improved.

0:37:040:37:07

I've been going through these articles so many times

0:37:090:37:12

about the first operation and the biopsies, the broker's copies,

0:37:120:37:17

everything, and the article doesn't seem to reflect the real situation

0:37:170:37:25

with the patient.

0:37:250:37:26

OK, then why you don't ask the commission that has evaluated

0:37:260:37:29

all the documents?

0:37:290:37:30

No, but I have to ask you, because you are the main author.

0:37:300:37:33

-Yes.

-And it's your work.

-I am the senior author and I have

0:37:330:37:38

provided written, compelling evidence

0:37:380:37:41

that contrasts what you're saying,

0:37:410:37:43

so I don't need to restate this very bad episode of my life, please.

0:37:430:37:48

I hope that you understand.

0:37:480:37:51

In your statement, I don't see that you actually refuting

0:37:510:37:54

the actual faults from the records.

0:37:540:37:59

I don't see that you're showing the opposite.

0:37:590:38:02

Yeah, it was actually vascularised,

0:38:020:38:05

it was actually covered by epithelial...

0:38:050:38:07

Why you don't complain to the Ethical Commission or to the KI?

0:38:070:38:12

I don't know what you're arguing here.

0:38:120:38:14

When Hamsten and his colleagues cleared Macchiarini,

0:38:240:38:27

they sent an important message to the rest of the world.

0:38:270:38:30

What had been written in Macchiarini's articles

0:38:310:38:34

was substantially true.

0:38:340:38:35

Hence, they supported Macchiarini's claims

0:38:450:38:48

that Andemariam's plastic trachea

0:38:480:38:49

was about to develop into a normal airway.

0:38:490:38:52

But the film from the examination has clearly shown

0:39:230:39:26

that one of Andemariam's airways was almost completely closed off.

0:39:260:39:30

And that they'd had to remove

0:39:320:39:33

scar tissue and insert a metal net.

0:39:330:39:36

These discrepancies in Macchiarini's articles are just two of many

0:40:080:40:12

that were discovered and reported to the Karolinska Institute

0:40:120:40:16

by the four doctors.

0:40:160:40:17

Karolinska Hospital and Institute received several warnings

0:40:580:41:02

but failed to raise the alarm.

0:41:020:41:04

And at this time, Karolinska was still fully supportive

0:41:360:41:39

of Macchiarini and his research.

0:41:390:41:42

Research which had made Macchiarini's method

0:41:420:41:44

known around the world.

0:41:440:41:46

-NEWSREADER:

-..gave a man back his trachea and his life.

0:41:460:41:48

We're just a few years away from this all happening -

0:41:480:41:51

all the organs being built in a lab.

0:41:510:41:52

This is a major achievement for every other patient

0:41:520:41:56

that would need this type of transplantation.

0:41:560:41:59

We have now a clinical trial authorisation in Russia,

0:42:000:42:03

another one in...

0:42:030:42:05

The events at Karolinska had repercussions outside of Sweden.

0:42:050:42:09

For patients who were almost completely healthy...

0:42:110:42:14

..patients like Julia.

0:42:150:42:16

She might have had a long life ahead of her...

0:42:250:42:27

..and still she agreed to a potentially fatal operation.

0:42:290:42:32

She was hoping Paolo would conjure up her old self...

0:42:350:42:38

..but she seemed unaware of the enormous risks

0:42:390:42:42

the surgery posed to her.

0:42:420:42:44

It's the same plastic that this bottle is made from.

0:42:450:42:48

This is medical grade.

0:42:480:42:50

So, we know this material is very safe.

0:42:500:42:52

Nor did Julia seem aware

0:42:540:42:56

of how badly it had turned out for her predecessors.

0:42:560:42:59

And that there was a risk she might die.

0:43:000:43:02

You're in very good hands. Paolo is the best surgeon in the world.

0:43:040:43:07

-I know.

-You know?

0:43:070:43:09

You're right.

0:43:090:43:10

Paolo has published hardly any facts from Julia's operation.

0:43:460:43:50

But in interviews after the operation,

0:44:020:44:04

he was quick to claim it was a success.

0:44:040:44:07

And I still do not believe that, a few days ago,

0:44:070:44:10

she couldn't breathe and talk normally.

0:44:100:44:13

After the surgery, Julia had a long struggle ahead of her -

0:44:250:44:30

one that she couldn't win.

0:44:300:44:31

Slowly, her condition worsened.

0:44:330:44:35

The plastic trachea didn't work...

0:44:370:44:39

..and Macchiarini implanted a new plastic trachea in Julia.

0:44:420:44:45

When Julia had only months to live,

0:45:010:45:04

Paolo appeared on German television...

0:45:040:45:06

..and he gave a very different picture of Julia's condition.

0:45:080:45:10

Five months later,

0:45:440:45:46

Julia died.

0:45:460:45:48

Two months after her death,

0:45:510:45:53

Macchiarini wrote to the journal Nature.

0:45:530:45:55

He said that Julia's trachea had been examined weeks before death

0:45:570:46:01

and claimed that there was nothing wrong with it.

0:46:010:46:04

You can live a long life with a tracheostomy.

0:46:080:46:10

I wondered what Paolo's thoughts were on this.

0:46:120:46:14

Had he informed Julia of all the risks?

0:46:160:46:18

The patient may say, "Yes, that's fine,"

0:46:210:46:24

-but the responsibility...

-Patients are not idiots,

0:46:240:46:26

they are very intelligent, you need to respect that.

0:46:260:46:30

That's not nice what you're saying.

0:46:300:46:32

Patients understand very well,

0:46:320:46:35

because they are told what to do and what not to do...

0:46:350:46:39

..that you can stay with a hole...

0:46:400:46:42

..that you might have a trachea that works or not,

0:46:430:46:46

that there might be complications and so forth.

0:46:460:46:49

Absolutely, but you feel, you personally,

0:46:490:46:52

you feel no doubts?

0:46:520:46:53

You don't feel regret or maybe, "I shouldn't have done this"?

0:46:530:46:58

Of course, I have doubt. All the time, I have doubts.

0:46:580:47:00

Even if I'm going out, I have doubts I should have done

0:47:000:47:03

this interview or not.

0:47:030:47:05

Come on, I mean, we are doing such very complex innovative things

0:47:050:47:10

that I'm struggling and thinking, 'Should we do it really or not?

0:47:100:47:14

'Is she or he the best candidate or an appropriate candidate?'

0:47:140:47:18

You really think that we are beasts?

0:47:190:47:22

I began to realise that Paolo

0:47:240:47:26

was not going to give me any more answers.

0:47:260:47:29

If you feel I wasn't safe, then I accept your opinion.

0:47:290:47:34

What's your opinion?

0:47:340:47:36

I already said what was my opinion.

0:47:360:47:38

The most I got were counter-questions.

0:47:390:47:41

-I've seen all...

-Did you?

0:47:430:47:45

Sorry to insist, now I am the journalist.

0:47:450:47:48

-Did you see that?

-Or perhaps, he just didn't want to answer me.

0:47:480:47:51

There's no reference.

0:47:510:47:53

But maybe, they are stored in a different compartment. Ask KI.

0:47:530:47:57

But I just couldn't understand

0:47:570:47:59

how Paolo can implant a plastic trachea in Julia

0:47:590:48:03

without first having tested it on one single animal.

0:48:030:48:06

So, your profession is?

0:48:080:48:09

-How do you mean?

-What are you doing as job?

0:48:110:48:13

You have to explain what you mean.

0:48:160:48:18

You are producer?

0:48:180:48:20

TV producer?

0:48:200:48:21

How can you possibly understand all the details

0:48:210:48:24

of a medical evaluation?

0:48:240:48:26

And you know all the details of a medical evaluation.

0:48:270:48:30

No, of course not.

0:48:300:48:31

So if there were, I don't know,

0:48:310:48:34

about 10 to 20 health care professionals,

0:48:340:48:36

health care providers, that decided

0:48:360:48:38

that this was the most appropriate procedure for her...

0:48:380:48:41

..then I believe we can trust them.

0:48:420:48:44

Perhaps Paolo actually believes he hasn't committed any mistakes

0:48:520:48:56

and that in order to progress, you have to experiments on humans.

0:48:560:49:02

Jungebluth's view was that certain things could only be learned

0:49:020:49:05

on the operating table.

0:49:050:49:06

But if I understood you correctly, your assessment is also that the...

0:49:110:49:17

..synthetic scaffold don't really work at the moment.

0:49:190:49:22

Of course, this is the reason why we stopped the clinical trial

0:49:220:49:26

and we are on hold to have a better scaffold.

0:49:260:49:29

But you see no problems with the road to coming to that conclusion?

0:49:370:49:42

-What?

-You see no problems with, with...

0:49:440:49:47

Listen, if you don't do things, then you probably will never have...

0:49:490:49:53

..such conclusions, right?

0:49:550:49:57

If you just do reporting without doing it,

0:49:590:50:03

you will not report, so,

0:50:030:50:06

of course, we have experienced...

0:50:060:50:09

..complications but we have learned a lot from them, as well,

0:50:100:50:14

so that possibly the next patients,

0:50:140:50:17

everything will be better, much better.

0:50:170:50:20

So, Paolo has learned that the plastic tracheas don't work

0:50:220:50:27

but to him, it's been worth it.

0:50:270:50:28

And at the time, it seemed as if representatives from Karolinska

0:50:290:50:33

were of the same opinion.

0:50:330:50:34

Richard Kuylenstierna was one of those who authorised

0:50:360:50:40

the first operation on Andemariam.

0:50:400:50:42

In Russia, they were also initially enthusiastic

0:51:130:51:16

about the plastic tracheas.

0:51:160:51:18

Igor Polyakov operated on Julia, together with Macchiarini.

0:51:260:51:30

He really believed that it would work,

0:51:300:51:33

since Macchiarini had the stamp of approval

0:51:330:51:35

from the Karolinska Institute.

0:51:350:51:37

Without that, the Russian trials might never have taken place.

0:51:370:51:41

In Russia, they now know that everything went wrong,

0:52:030:52:08

not least in Julia's case...

0:52:080:52:09

..and they dare to admit it.

0:52:100:52:12

While in early 2016 at Karolinska,

0:52:370:52:40

it was almost as if nothing had happened.

0:52:400:52:42

Perhaps because at the time,

0:52:440:52:46

the hospital still hadn't fully investigated

0:52:460:52:49

how they could put patients through treatment methods

0:52:490:52:52

that hadn't even been tested on animals.

0:52:520:52:54

Perhaps because, at the time, the Karolinska Institute

0:52:560:52:59

was still standing by Macchiarini's research work.

0:52:590:53:02

After this interview in February 2016,

0:54:370:54:40

Hamsten would distance himself from Paolo's work in Russia...

0:54:400:54:44

..and he maintained that Karolinska was not responsible

0:54:450:54:48

for the way Paolo's methods had been adopted there.

0:54:480:54:51

You're insinuating that everybody in the group has lied,

0:54:540:54:58

which is very bad from your side.

0:54:580:54:59

I didn't expect that. Wow.

0:54:590:55:02

And even the president has lied, even the commission has lied,

0:55:030:55:07

everybody has lied.

0:55:070:55:09

Maybe something is wrong in your assumption

0:55:090:55:11

or in your statement.

0:55:110:55:15

But I'm just using my brainpower

0:55:150:55:18

-and I'm trying to find the facts that show...

-Well, then,

0:55:180:55:23

maybe you should look and search more before doing this interview.

0:55:230:55:26

Think so. So, please, let's stop here now.

0:55:270:55:31

Ever since I first met Paolo, I've been curious about him.

0:56:170:56:21

Everything he described sounded so good.

0:56:220:56:24

Almost too good to be true.

0:56:280:56:29

Welcome to this session.

0:56:310:56:33

After this series was first broadcast in Sweden,

0:56:380:56:41

it created intense pressure on the Karolinska Institute

0:56:410:56:44

and the University Hospital.

0:56:440:56:46

After an initial period of denial,

0:56:510:56:53

the Vice Chancellor Hamsten resigned.

0:56:530:56:56

The board of the Karolinska Institute, as well as Lendahl,

0:56:590:57:02

the permanent secretary of the Nobel Committee,

0:57:020:57:05

have now also stepped down.

0:57:050:57:06

Paolo Macchiarini had his contract and research group terminated.

0:57:110:57:15

Internationally, more than ten inquiries have been opened

0:57:180:57:22

and Swedish prosecutors are investigating

0:57:220:57:24

whether to press Macchiarini with charges

0:57:240:57:27

for involuntary manslaughter.

0:57:270:57:29

But the most important question of all remains unanswered.

0:57:300:57:35

How could top universities and hospitals

0:57:350:57:37

support everything that happened for so long?

0:57:370:57:40

I can't help wondering...

0:58:080:58:10

..is the reputation of the medical establishment

0:58:110:58:14

worth more than a human life?

0:58:140:58:16

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