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I remember that day very vividly. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
It was Thanksgiving. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
It was pitch-black to the north, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
and to the east was, like, this ray of light | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
coming up with us, where the sun was starting to come up. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
They called me the fisherman, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
but I really hadn't been out fishing a lot. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
My cousin, Sam, he is more of a fisherman than me. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
He said, "Look for seaweed, look for debris," | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
anything that was floating on the ocean's surface. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Maybe, like, three miles off the coast, I said to him, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
"Like that inner tube right there?" | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
He said, "Yeah, go over there." | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
And I said to my cousin, "Look at that, it's a sick joke." | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
We thought it was a doll tied to an inner tube. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
We thought it was, like, a joke, you know? | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
We're rocking all over the boat | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
and all of a sudden I see the hand move. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
He goes, "Hurry! Go, go, go, go!" | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
Before I could blink my eyes, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
my cousin's not on the boat any longer. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
He's in the water and he's screaming, "It's a baby!" | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
When I got underneath him, he reached over, he grabbed me | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
by the neck and I tried to kick my way back to the boat. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I'm trying not to fall into the water and he's trying to push up. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
And I just grabbed this child and I held him in my arms. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
And then my cousin got on the phone with his wife. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
WHIRRING | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
All the local news stations, they were out there on helicopters. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
They were thinking, "Wow, this is | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
"a little bigger than what we thought it was." | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Don't worry about me. Just go ahead. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Watch him. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Do you know this boy? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:31 | |
CHANTING | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
CHANTING | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
SHOUTING | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
-NEWS ANCHORS: -And from the ocean waters off the coast | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
of Florida tonight, a real-life Thanksgiving story to tell you... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
..found him clinging to an inner tube on Thanksgiving... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
..part of a group of 13 Cuban rafters, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
only two others rescued alive... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
Elian's mother is believed to have drowned, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
but he has cousins he just met in Miami. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
This is the story of a little boy from Cuba, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
whose mother died bringing him to freedom in the United States. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Or maybe it's the story of a boy shipwrecked in Miami, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
whose Cuban father just wanted him back. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
It was always supposed to be Elian's story. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Although a lot of other people would try to make it their own. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
The first thing that came to my mind - | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
how did he survive by himself, when he's only five? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
And the only thing I could probably say is that it's just a miracle. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
God wanted him here for freedom. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
-So, he is here. -And he's here, and he will get it. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
I'll never forget. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
He was sitting there, he was about to have soup. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
The first thing I said was, "Don't eat that." | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
So he just looks straight up at me and he's like, "Is it bad?" | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
And I'm like, "Yes. Don't eat that. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
"We'll get you something better than that." | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
That moment was our first connection. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
And then, after that, he would always ask me for everything. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Every raft that would come from Cuba, you would always see it on TV, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
so when I saw the press there, to me that was normal, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
-that's what they're there for. -CAMERA SHUTTERS | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
When Elian and his cousin Marisleysis waved goodbye | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
from the hospital the next day, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
the story could have ended there. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Another Cuban rafter makes his home in Miami. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
Ready to go home! | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Like so many Cuban families, the Gonzales clan had come apart | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
in the years after Fidel Castro's revolution. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
From the small town of Cardenas on Cuba's north coast, aunts and uncles | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
of Elian's father had made their way across the Florida Straits, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
settling in the Miami enclaves of Hialeah and Little Havana. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
The eldest of Elian's great-uncles, Delphin, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
had come in the late 1970s after spending years | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
as a political prisoner in Castro's jails. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
He found a quiet life in the Florida Keys, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
where he made his living selling lobster traps. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Delphin's younger brother, Lazaro, followed | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
with his wife and two children. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
He worked mostly as an auto-body repair man, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
but struggled to find a steady job. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Lazaro's daughter, Marisleysis, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
had arrived in the United States when she was Elian's age. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
At 21, she processed loans at a local bank | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
and dreamed of opening a hair salon. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
I'm told that of all the family members, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
you're the one that Elian has bonded with most. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
-Do you feel that bond? -I sure do. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Definitely. I feel like he's been my brother since a little kid. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
CHUCKLING | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
So, if this little boy has to go back to Cuba, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
it would really break your heart, wouldn't it? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Sorry. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
His mum died for him. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
And...I feel that he deserves to be here. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Cos that's what his mum wanted, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
and his mum is first, to me. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
We were all so scared to ask him what happened. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
And then there was that day where he said, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
"And I woke up and my mum was not there. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
"She must have drowned. She drowned." | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
I swallowed real hard and I grind my teeth not to cry. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
And I looked at him and I said, "She's always watching over you, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
"so don't ever say your mum's dead, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
"because she has to always live in your heart." | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
In Cuba, Elian's father, Juan Miguel, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
hadn't known that his ex-wife and her boyfriend had taken Elian away | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
on a home-made boat, hoping to start their lives over | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
in the United States. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Frantic to find them, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Juan Miguel and his parents immediately began calling | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
their relatives in Miami. But almost from the start, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
the two sides of the family were talking past each other. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
I remember my dad saying that, you know, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
"Juan Miguel says to take care of him till he can come over here." | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
In the beginning of everything, I always had a picture in my mind that | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
he was going to come and stay, and it was like, "Wow, my whole family's | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
"going to be reunited." | 0:10:56 | 0:10:57 | |
Juan Miguel's branch of the family was rooted comfortably in Cuba. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
He and his parents were loyal members | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
of the ruling Communist Party, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
and Juan Miguel, who had remarried, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
had a good job at the nearby beach resort of Varadero. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
When they needed help, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
they didn't hesitate to ask the Cuban government. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
INAUDIBLE | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Miguel, how's it going? Good. Good to see you. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Hey, Mark, how's it going? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
You've got some gifts there that the Congresswoman wants to give you. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
As soon as Elian's rescue made the local news, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
uninvited guests began to descend on the Gonzales home in Little Havana. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
People are literally dying to flee Cuba. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Among the first was Jorge Mas Santos, the head of the most powerful exile group - | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
the Cuban-American National foundation. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
When we saw this image of this young boy who lost his | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
mother at sea, I think the image of everything that | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Cuban Americans felt. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
I thought the Cuban-American National foundation should use this | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
as messaging of a human story, of a human tragedy. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
That's why we developed a poster and a campaign to bring attention to | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
something that we need to stop. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
This is a typical tragic Miami story that has to do with people trying to | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
leave Cuba and drowning at sea. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
We sent that out to a lot of different media. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
All of a sudden, it became a national story. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
They made T-shirts with Elian's picture and they disseminated it, choosing to highlight Elian. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:59 | |
It caught the interest of Fidel Castro immediately. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
And it made Fidel Castro focus laser beam on Elian and said, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
"I am going to use this opportunity to get back at the Miami community." | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
And he did it perfectly. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
CHEERING | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
CHANTING: Fidel! Fidel! Fidel! | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
NBC News In Depth tonight - the struggle over a little boy. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
White House officials clearly don't want this dispute to become a big | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
international incident. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
"Don't forget that country is in an election campaign," says Castro. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
America has determined enemies who hate our values. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
We've just begun to fight! | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Well, of course I'd rather grow up in the United States. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
But... | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
There may be other considerations there. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Cuban officials are promising twice as many protesters today, as this | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
country unites around the powerful symbol | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
of a six-year-old child caught between two worlds. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
The Elian case was a very important national unifying factor. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:48 | |
It was a moment in the long history of confrontation | 0:15:48 | 0:15:54 | |
between Cuba and the US. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
LOUD EXPLOSION, SCREAMING | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
The uprising that brought Fidel Castro to power in 1959 | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
overthrew a brutal dictatorship | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
that was closely allied with United States. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
The revolutionaries promised a more just and democratic society, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
even as Castro consolidated his own power quickly and ruthlessly. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
Well-off Cubans began fleeing to Miami | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
as soon as the rebels took power. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
And the exodus continued as Castro confiscated private property | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
and nationalised American-owned oil refineries. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
-REPORTER: -Are you a Communist, Fidel? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
Well...well, wait for the history. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
The history will state what we are. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
With Castro drawing closer to the Soviets, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
the American government punished Cuba with an economic embargo. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
Then it backed an invasion by Cuban exiles at the Bay Of Pigs. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
The bitter exiles would blame their defeat on the Americans' | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
half-hearted support. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
But Castro revelled in his victory, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
which made him a hero to revolutionaries around the world, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
and gave him enemies in Miami and Washington that he would exploit | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
for years to come. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
New waves of Cuban refugees poured into Miami. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
What are conditions like there now? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
-In Cuba? -Yes. -Bad condition. We have no address, we have no food. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
We have difficulty for all things there. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Where do you plan to settle here in the United States? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
In Miami. Where my mother lives, and my sister. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
The Cold War never ended in Miami. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
A mother died getting her kid out of Cuba, to get him to freedom. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
Of course we're going to hold that child, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
because we don't want him to go back. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
We really want, we NEED him here. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
We have a role to play in protecting freedom. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
And when people risk everything to come, even if | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
they are a five-year-old kid, they ought to be allowed to stay. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Relatives of Elian Gonzales say they saw a different side | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
of the six-year-old - a boy simply filled with joy and happiness | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
at the Disney World visit, but family spokesman Armando Gutierrez | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
says Elian showed some lingering signs of his ordeal | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
and rescue at sea when he went on the It's A Small World water ride. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
He was a little bit frightened at one time with the boat and | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
asked the question, "Is this boat going to sink?" | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
Toys for a tot torn between two countries. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Elian Gonzales has officially captivated a community. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
CHEERING | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
We wanted to give him a life where he felt comfortable | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
and everything was normal. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
Then we got him to go to school. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
He was so happy to go to school. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:18 | |
CHILDREN CHANT: Elian! Elian! Elian! Elian! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
# Does that star-spangled banner yet wave | 0:21:42 | 0:21:49 | |
# O'er the land of the free | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
# And the home of the brave? # | 0:21:53 | 0:22:00 | |
They were summoned by President Fidel Castro | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
for what he calls the second stage of the battle of the masses. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Thousands demonstrated again in front of the US diplomatic mission | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
in Havana. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
Fidel asked me to work with Juan Miguel to help him | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
to recover his child. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Everybody in this island was on the side of Elian, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
his father, and his family. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
-NEWS ANCHORS: -The boy's father joined other Cubans | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
at a weekend rally demanding the child be returned. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
American immigration officials will interview the father | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
here in Cuba to give him a chance to assert his rights | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
and prove his paternity. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
We have this very unusual circumstance of a father in Cuba | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
asking for the son to be returned to him. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
It was pretty unprecedented. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
I mean, typically, people who came to the United States from Cuba | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
came because they wanted to stay here. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
As the immigration service, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
we had to determine whether this WAS actually the father, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
and, since the child had come to the United States with the mother, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
whether the father had a relationship with the child. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
What was the family's story? | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
Juan Miguel and Elisa had married as teenagers. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
And it had taken them years, and seven miscarriages, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
before Elian was born. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
Strains on the marriage eventually led them to separate. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
But they set aside their differences to build a new relationship around | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
the son they both adored. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
# Happy birthday to you... # | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
# Happy birthday, dear Elian. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
# Happy birthday to you. # | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
For me, seeing my cousin on TV speaking the way he used to speak | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
about us and then seeing Fidel next to him, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
made me think, "Are you for real, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
"or do you just have to play this role?" | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
My Uncle Delfin said to me, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
"That's probably not even what he really wants to say, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
"so don't take it to heart." | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
Delfin was a person that I listened to | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
because that was the person that I knew that experienced | 0:27:37 | 0:27:43 | |
the torturing of Cuba when he was in prison. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
He would say, "That is how the government works. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
"They try to destroy the family. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
"They try to keep us apart." | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
So I was fighting for both of their freedom because I was hoping | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
for the day Juan Miguel could meet with Elian here and be free as well. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
His cousin. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
Cousin. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
What do you want everybody to know about how you're feeling right now? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Well, right now I'm feeling that if it will be up to him... | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
I want him to stay. It is not my decision and it is very hard for me. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
So... I just hope they made the right decision. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
The case of Elian Gonzales has been a difficult one, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
complicated by the fact that several people, other than Elian's father, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
claimed to represent him. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
INS has determined that Elian should be reunited with his father. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:47 | |
And then we said... | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
By January 14th, he is to be turned over to the INS, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
so that he can be returned to his father. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
What did I think at that time? | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
Did I think it would happen? I don't know. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Marisleysis, could we ask you about your reaction? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
They are only letting the dad decide what's best for the kid | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
and everything like that. As we all know, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
when Elian came and found himself lonely in this country | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
without no family, without his dad not having the freedom | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
to get an aeroplane and come here to support his child | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
when he most really needed it, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
because he couldn't even sit down in a bed because he will fall, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
I was there and so was my family supporting that. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Until then, they didn't let us support him and being there for him. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
Why aren't we given the opportunity at this point to speak for him? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
His dad doesn't have freedom because otherwise, as a father, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
as we all know, we would do the best for our child. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
We would have got on an aeroplane and come to this country | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
and see how was our kid. And his words were, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
"I haven't lost anything there." | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
What about your son? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:50 | |
A fight was on, a fight was on. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
This community has asked for, since day one, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
the due process of Elian Gonzales. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
With help from Jorge Mas, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
the family tried to go around the immigration service, turning to some | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
of the Cuban American National Foundation's powerful allies | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
in Washington. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:12 | |
We thought the best way to make sure that the judicial process | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
was followed was the issue of subpoena. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
This is a federal subpoena which we believe protects Elian Gonzales | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
from being forcibly and illegally removed | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
from the United States, back to Cuba. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
In Miami, people celebrated the subpoena, which orders | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
little Elian to appear before US Congress in an effort | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
to delay his return to Cuba. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Several congressmen and at least one senator say they will offer bills | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
as early as February to grant Elian Gonzales permanent US citizenship. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:47 | |
But it's not just Congress. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
At last night's Republican presidential debate, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
all the candidates demand that Elian be allowed to stay here | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
and his father allowed to join him if he wishes. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
The man ought to be brought to the United States, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
given a whiff of freedom so he can see how wonderful our country is. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
-NEWS ANCHOR: -Why has this become so political? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Because Cuban-Americans are a critical voting bloc | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
in Florida's Republican presidential primary and a lucrative source | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
of campaign money for BOTH political parties. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
The six-year-old may have even more politicians as playmates. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
I know that this is where he wants to stay, and if that is the case, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
I will take care of him like if he would be my son. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
But I feel that we should have the right to take his chance to court. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
Can you remember when you were six? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:37 | |
There were some days I wanted to run away from home. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
And there were other days I wanted my mommy so bad I couldn't stand it. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
I think the law has indicated and it's certainly, I think, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
the experience of most people that six years old is too young | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
to speak for themselves. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
Under US law, it was the Attorney General, Janet Reno, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
who had the final say on Elian's immigration case. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Trying to find a compromise, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
she set aside the deadline for returning Elian to Cuba, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
and invited his Miami relatives to plead their case. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
Today we have filed a very significant lawsuit | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
in federal court. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
It is the case of Elian Gonzales versus Janet Reno. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
My hope is that people will look at this little boy | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
and get him into a situation where he can live a normal life | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
without television cameras and the world in his face. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
Elian himself had said almost nothing in public | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
during his time in Miami. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
But one night in January, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
a camera caught him yelling at a passing aeroplane. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
And his words quickly became a point of contention. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
The family disputed the initial translation by local television | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
and insisted that Elian had really said | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
he DIDN'T want to return to Cuba. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
-TRANSLATION: -He has been manipulated. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
That is what really concerns me | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
and has been concerning me for a long time. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
It has been suggested, in some quarters, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
and I'm going to give you the opportunity to respond, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
that the reason you did not come to Miami | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
is because the Cuban government is afraid | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
that once you get to Miami, you will defect. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
How do you respond to that? | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Who said that? Who said that? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
I think I have been extremely clear. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
People think, or some people think, that I am under pressure here. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
I have always said, I haven't lost anything in Miami. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
And sometimes what I would like to do is go down there with a rifle, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
I don't know, to get rid of how many people. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Are you serious about that, sir? | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
That's obviously a very inflammatory remark. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
And what about... Isn't it inflammatory, what they are doing | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
with my son? | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
I did see his anger. And I did see his frustration. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
But as a parent, you get on the first flight you can | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
and you just come and get your child. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
He's not allowed to do that. I had to take care of his child, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
my dad had to shelter his child. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
Juan Miguel's frustration should be with the Cuban government, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
not with me, or with our family. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Neither Juan Miguel nor the Cuban government | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
offered any compelling reason why he couldn't just go and get his son. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Cuban officials cited concerns for his safety in Miami. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
But the widespread belief there was that Fidel either feared Juan Miguel | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
would defect or simply wanted to keep the battle going | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
for as long as he could. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
This was not a simple matter of a parent saying, "I miss my child, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
"I need to bring my child home." | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
This was going to take time and there was always the possibility | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
that they would not be able to get him home. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
I've been involved in Cuba for almost 40 years, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
and if you've been to Cuba and you come to know Cuban people, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
you really have a very different view | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
than if you've only lived in the United States. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
The National Council of Churches decided to see if, by our efforts, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
we could get this child returned to his family in Cuba. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
First of all, we needed to win over the American people. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
It's a very emotional thing to hear a family talk | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
about the loss of a child. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
And I knew that the grandmothers had a passion | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
about getting this little boy back home. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
So I had to go to Fidel Castro and I had to ask permission to take them. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:22 | |
The grandmothers came, and we tried to arrange a visit | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
for them with Elian who, of course, was in Miami. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
And then ensued a back and forth over the terms because, in fact, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:45 | |
there was such tension and unresolved issues and disagreement | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
within the family itself. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
It was not a negotiation. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
It was dictated to them that they must present the boy tomorrow | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
or his status would be changed and the boy would potentially | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
be sent back to Cuba immediately. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
I'm very concerned it was going to happen tomorrow | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
because every night I go to sleep, he tells me, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
"Don't let them take me back," | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and I am going to be the one taking him to this house, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
where I don't know what's going to happen, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
and I don't have control of. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
With local television stations covering the tug-of-war live, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
Elian met with his grandmothers at the home of a Miami nun | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
who was an old friend of Janet Reno. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
I wasn't allowed to stay in the room with them. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
And this was the perfect time for him to tell her, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
"I want to leave with you," if that was what was in his heart. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
If that would have been me, I would have run to my grandma | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
and told her, "Take me." But he didn't. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Actually, he did the opposite. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
He ran out of the room and all he said to me was, "Run, run! | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
"They are going to take us." | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Just made me feel, well, I need to fight for his freedom, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
just like his mum gave her life for it. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
I think for the grandmothers, the meeting was extremely frustrating. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
And they felt that he was in danger. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
They felt he was drugged. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
But they did go home, having seen Elian, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
and they did go home more determined that they had to get him home. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
I feel great. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
And I feel confident, yeah. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Strong, and that I have more feelings that I had before. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:31 | |
Now I feel that he's more towards this side than to that side. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
Where are you going in a big-ass hurry, man? | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
At that time I was a freelancer for AP. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
One morning, I get a call from my editor and he says, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
"All right, this is what I want you to do." | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
You cover Elian every day. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
Miami police shut down the street, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
the whole half-block was blocked off. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
There were TV stations that were paying 500 a day | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
just to have a crew in front of the house. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
Back in 1999 to 2000, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
we weren't actually living in 24-hour news cycles. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
It was a very different landscape. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
All of a sudden, we've got media stakeouts and they are, you know, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:55 | |
using this child almost as a prop to tell a story, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
you know, having him out, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
playing with an American flag at 11 o'clock at night. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
So we'd not seen anything like that. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
Rewarding this atrocious behaviour, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
this trotting out this kid the way they did, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
and then you're acting shocked and surprised that it's happening. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
They wanted a full media blitz, and we gave it to them. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
We had things like, you know, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Diane Sawyer going to have playdates with Elian. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
We spent some time drawing. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
Some waves. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
A dolphin. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
Himself in an inner tube. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
"Me," he said, "I was sinking." | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I always tell him I'm his cousin. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
-He tries to call you Mom, sometimes? -Yeah, he says Mari stands for mom. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
And nobody cares about a little boy who lost his mother, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
who has lost everything, and is now about to lose the only thing | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
that he has, which is me and it's hard to say when he tells me, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:22 | |
"Please don't ever leave me." | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
People just say return him to his father, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
but people don't live with this little boy. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
People don't see how this little boy feels. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
Just the family stuff is enough to throw someone over the edge. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
Now, when all of that is being witnessed on a daily basis | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
by the entire world, not easy. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
I mean, I've been involved in politics all my life, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
I'm a practising lawyer, a public speaker, you know... | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
I have the training, as best you can, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
to be able to do something like that. This family had zero, zero training. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
I have been in this for four months, not for political issues, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
not to look good in front of people, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
but for the best interests of this child. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
I remember the Today show, where I think we might have even left | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
the show and gone to the hospital, because she really took a beating, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
an emotional beating from that process. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
It was a loving family. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:28 | |
They got caught up in the collective hysteria, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
that this was the apocalyptic battle against Castro. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
I was under a lot of stress, I wasn't getting enough sleep, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
sometimes I would just pass out. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
A day in that house was crazy. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:45 | |
I had people walk in and out my room and I was like, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
"Who are these people?" | 0:43:51 | 0:43:52 | |
What people saw in the Elian story often depended on where they stood. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:58 | |
As the weeks passed, national polls showed a deep divide, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
with more and more Americans outside South Florida | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
in favour of returning the boy to his father. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
But in Miami, the exiles' fury continued to grow, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
spilling over into protests that blocked traffic on the highways | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
and exasperated many of the city's non-Cubans. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
I am a parent. And I believe that a child should be with his father. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
I, by now, had seen the anger in Miami. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
I had seen the determination of some of the Miami Cubans | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
to make sure that Elian did not leave. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
Senator Lahey came to me and he said, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
"We're going to get that little boy back to his father. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
"And I'm going to help you, but you're never going to make it happen | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
"if you don't involve a lawyer in this. I have a lawyer for you. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
"His name is Greg Craig. I'm calling him now. He won't say no." | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
I went to the Justice Department and said, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
"I'm going to go to Cuba, and I want to be able to tell Juan Miguel | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
"that when he comes back to the United States, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
"he will be able to take custody of his son, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
"within the space of a few days. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:17 | |
"That he is not going to have to sit in some room | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
"and watch his son on television being paraded around | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
"by these relatives." | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
They were not willing to give me that commitment. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
I had nothing going down to Cuba, other than to say, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
"Now is the time to do it." | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
To be clear, Castro was in the middle of this decision-making. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
Castro was waking up from a nap, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
you could just tell that he had been asleep | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
and he was putting himself together. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
The meeting was forever, it lasted forever. | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
And we drank more coffee and more water | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
and people would be getting up and going off to relieve themselves. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
Castro didn't move for four hours. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
I think perhaps he had a device! | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
He would shake his finger at me and said, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
"Why do you think an American court would ever rule | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
"in favour of a Cuban national? | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
"There has never been a case where a Cuban National has won." | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
And my only argument was, I don't know of any time when the government | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
of the United States has been on the same side of the case | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
as a Cuban national, which in turn, you know, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
on the same side with the government of Cuba. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
That's never happened in history. So maybe the result will be different. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
We're talking with Dr Andrew Wilde, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
the author of Eating Well For Optimal Health. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
I think it is fine for lower cholesterol levels. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
Let me cut you a second. Let's go to Washington to Greg Craig | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
at the offices of Williams & Connolly. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
My name is Gregory B Craig. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
I'm pleased to report that Juan Miguel Gonzales, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
his wife and six-month-old son, will be coming to the United States. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
They will arrive tomorrow morning, Thursday, April 6th, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
at 7am at Dulles Airport. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:08 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
It was the next day that we had the meeting with the Attorney General. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
I'm driving the car and I'm saying to myself, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
now is the time to tell Juan Miguel what his options are. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:17 | |
There is no Cuban diplomats, Fidel Castro is not in the room. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
It's just the family. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:22 | |
So I said to Juan Miguel, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
"If you want to get Elian back this afternoon | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
"and stay in the United States with your family, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
"you have that opportunity because you are going to have | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
"the Attorney General of the United States, you are going to have | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
"the Commissioner of INS, and they will grant that request, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
"if you want to do that." | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
He says, Thank you very much." | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
At a certain point, the Attorney General asked | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
that everybody else leave the room. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
It was a very powerful meeting. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:55 | |
Very powerful. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:58 | |
He cut off the conversation almost when it started, saying, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:06 | |
"I stand by my word, I have a family in Cuba, I have a life in Cuba, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
"my son is going to grow up as a Cuban | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
"and I am not going to be claiming asylum." | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
He was a very proud... very clear person. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:25 | |
I called my cousin and said, "Look, we need to meet with his father | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
"and find out what he really wants to do. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
"This is our time to go and find out the truth." | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
Donato was instantly, instantly drawn to a camera. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
I begged him, "No more shows, Donato. No more shows." | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
And we got off the airplane at Dulles, and it was probably | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
the biggest media centre I've ever seen in my entire life. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
Once we got into the car from the airport, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
it was within 60 seconds that I knew I was in the car | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
with the Cuban National Foundation. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
They were already brainwashing Donato and trying to brainwash me. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
They wanted it to look like that once we got there, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
that Juan Miguel refused to meet us. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
Juan Miguel came in and, in a very sincere way, thanked them | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
for having saved Elian's life. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
Juan Miguel was a very, very... heart-warming, loving father, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:35 | |
with tears in his eyes when he would talk to me. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
My heart told me the right thing, and he wants his child back. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
We are talking about a six-year-old little boy here, people. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
It's a child. That's what we need to be concerned about, and nobody else. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
The rest of it is all BS, man. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
We need to put this baby to rest right now. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
Donato has to speak for himself. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
I said, "I'm Donato, the fisherman, the one they call El Pescador. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
"I was there when your son was about to drown." | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
And, man, this guy's eyes started to well up with water. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
And I ran over there and I grabbed him and I hugged him. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
We didn't kick him out, but we had to urge him to leave. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
I don't stand in the way of this father. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
But I can tell you this, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
I don't feel that he is free outside of his lawyer here. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
Juan Miguel said that he is not going to go down to Miami, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
so what's going to happen? | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
We needed a family meeting away from the media, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
governments pitted against each other, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
the Cuban American National Foundation | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
versus the Castro brothers. We needed to get out of that. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
And we needed a neutral third party, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
which I thought was the Catholic Church. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
We got the blessing of the Pope | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
about using the Vatican embassy in Washington. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
I had a private jet prepared, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
Elian was going to be taken to my home that evening, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
so that he could be on a plane at four in the morning. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
-VOICEOVER: -I got a call from Jorge Mas, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
saying to go to Elian's house and tell the family | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
to bring Elian to Washington. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
I went into the house and I said, "If you ask me, I wouldn't do it." | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
"Because if you are going to ask me for any guarantees as to what is | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
"going happen, I can't give them to you." | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
And I remember there was a huge thing of seafood, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
a paella or something, and Lazaro was so tense by this time | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
that he grabs his phone and throws it in there. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
And I'm just sitting there and I'm watching this phone, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
you know, sinking into the rice. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
There is a new element to this story - | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
the boy's Miami relatives released a video tape of Elian | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
recorded last night. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
It shows him on a bed, we are going to show it to you. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
It's not clear who was in the room with him, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
whether he was coached or not. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
After the Miami relatives refused to bring the kid to Washington, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
it became clear that if we wanted Elian, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
we were going to have to go into the house and take him. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
SHOUTING AND CHANTING | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
For the last couple of days, we weren't even 100% sure | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
that Elian was even inside the home. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
He was not being brought out by family members, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
he didn't make appearances into the crowds. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
The less we saw of him, the more concern we had as to his welfare. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
If it comes to taking Elian by force, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
US law enforcement officials have a plan. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
Elements of the SWAT Special Operations group | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
are available. The 1,100-member Miami Police Department | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
and the Florida Highway Patrol has placed units on alert. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
The final go or no-go order will come only | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
from Attorney General Janet Reno. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
For weeks, the government had been assembling a shock force | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
of federal agents to seize Elian if necessary. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
But Janet Reno had misgivings that went beyond her loyalty | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
to Cuban exiles in Miami. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
Seven years earlier, just after taking office as Attorney General, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
Reno had ordered federal agents to raid the compound | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
of a religious cult near Waco, Texas. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
More than 70 people died, including 25 children. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
We must all reflect on how we, as a society, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
can, in the future, prevent such a senseless, horrible, | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
tragic loss of human life. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
One thing that really, I think did haunt her was Waco. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
But Janet Reno was somebody who made her decisions | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
based on the facts and the law. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
Instead of discussing HOW Elian should be reunited, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
the attorneys for the relatives continue to demand | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
that we revisit the issue of WHETHER Elian should be reunited. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:11 | |
That is not what the law provides. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
Demonstrators break through those barricades to try to form a human | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
chain around this house, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
if indeed federal agents came to seize Elian Gonzales. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
There were people in the crowds that had violent police records, | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
there were armed individuals in the crowd. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
The entire event was a potential powder keg. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
We wanted to effect a search warrant as soon as possible. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
The only delays were last-ditch efforts made by the US government | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
to negotiate a peaceful, so to speak, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:57 | |
surrender of the child to the US government. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
Miss Reno was willing to exhaust every option, | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
so when members of the community came in and said, you know, | 0:58:04 | 0:58:08 | |
"We think we can broker a deal," she was willing to talk to them. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
We were afraid that this was going to bring a lot of harm | 0:58:13 | 0:58:15 | |
to the community, and the perception of the community. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
This was spinning out of control. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
My focus was to get the community to have | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
a unanimous position that we're going to do this peacefully. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:30 | |
In my view, we were very close to doing, in two days, | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
that which had not been done in five months. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:36 | |
We are going to create a scenario where the two families would go | 0:58:36 | 0:58:40 | |
to a military base, have an opportunity to talk to each other | 0:58:40 | 0:58:43 | |
and look for an elegant solution and a settlement. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:46 | |
We developed the points and we faxed them to Janet Reno. | 0:58:46 | 0:58:50 | |
We get the fax off and we had been instructed by Aaron Podhurst, | 0:58:53 | 0:58:57 | |
everything is good. | 0:58:57 | 0:58:58 | |
You guys are fine. The agreement is still not finalised, | 0:58:58 | 0:59:02 | |
but our expectations were that | 0:59:02 | 0:59:03 | |
we'll be out of here in a couple of hours. | 0:59:03 | 0:59:05 | |
The offer was the same as had been made repeatedly by the family | 0:59:08 | 0:59:13 | |
and that ultimately not only hadn't succeeded, | 0:59:13 | 0:59:16 | |
but was not willing to, in any way, concede turning over the child | 0:59:16 | 0:59:23 | |
to the father. | 0:59:23 | 0:59:24 | |
It was just another effort, I think most of us thought, to delay. | 0:59:24 | 0:59:29 | |
We had identified 5am to be an optimal time | 0:59:32 | 0:59:36 | |
to execute the search warrant. | 0:59:36 | 0:59:38 | |
We were ready well prior to that and still awaiting a final green light | 0:59:38 | 0:59:45 | |
from the Department of Justice. | 0:59:45 | 0:59:46 | |
We were all in the Attorney General's office. | 0:59:46 | 0:59:49 | |
She stayed on an open line with Mr Podhurst. | 0:59:49 | 0:59:52 | |
I stayed on an open line with the INS people in Miami. | 0:59:52 | 0:59:58 | |
Because I needed to give them the order that it was a go. | 0:59:58 | 1:00:04 | |
I had two lines, one to the house and one to the Attorney General, | 1:00:05 | 1:00:09 | |
Janet Reno. It never occurred to me that there was a raid planned, | 1:00:09 | 1:00:13 | |
and I kept saying to the Attorney General, | 1:00:13 | 1:00:15 | |
"What's the big rush about?" | 1:00:15 | 1:00:17 | |
She gave them deadlines, she told them, "After this point, | 1:00:17 | 1:00:20 | |
"it's going to be too late and then you are out of time. | 1:00:20 | 1:00:23 | |
"You are running out of time." | 1:00:23 | 1:00:24 | |
That was the only night that Elian didn't sleep. | 1:00:28 | 1:00:32 | |
He was scared that they would take him. | 1:00:33 | 1:00:35 | |
It's well past midnight. | 1:00:36 | 1:00:38 | |
I tell them, "Look, I'm beginning to feel very uncomfortable, | 1:00:39 | 1:00:42 | |
"like there's a problem here. | 1:00:42 | 1:00:44 | |
"Because there is no reason... this is a one-page document." | 1:00:44 | 1:00:46 | |
There was questions in the room, "Are we on hold? Is it a go?" | 1:00:48 | 1:00:53 | |
And Miss Reno said, "It's a go." | 1:00:53 | 1:00:55 | |
Then, about four o'clock, we get a call from Aaron, | 1:01:01 | 1:01:05 | |
and his voice is almost shaking. | 1:01:05 | 1:01:07 | |
And he says to me, "You have got five minutes to wake everybody up." | 1:01:09 | 1:01:12 | |
I woke everybody up. | 1:01:15 | 1:01:16 | |
And while we're having that conversation, | 1:01:21 | 1:01:25 | |
there's a bunch of yelling and screaming outside. | 1:01:25 | 1:01:29 | |
And I said to Aaron, "Aaron, the feds are here." | 1:01:30 | 1:01:33 | |
Wake up! | 1:01:34 | 1:01:35 | |
HORN BLASTS | 1:01:36 | 1:01:38 | |
Let me go live. Are we shooting it? | 1:01:40 | 1:01:42 | |
Stay back behind the barricades! | 1:01:45 | 1:01:47 | |
Back behind the barricades! | 1:01:47 | 1:01:49 | |
Hordes of people were going to do everything in their power | 1:01:49 | 1:01:52 | |
to prevent us from reaching the front door. | 1:01:52 | 1:01:54 | |
They chanted, they screamed, lights went on. | 1:01:54 | 1:01:57 | |
They formed human chains. | 1:01:57 | 1:01:59 | |
We virtually had to push our way to the front door. | 1:01:59 | 1:02:04 | |
Behind us, there was a riot going on. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:08 | |
It was clearly organised resistance. | 1:02:18 | 1:02:20 | |
I pounded at the door. | 1:02:24 | 1:02:26 | |
"Federal agents, we're executing a search warrant. | 1:02:26 | 1:02:29 | |
"Open the door, open the door." | 1:02:29 | 1:02:31 | |
I had to give the order to breach the door. | 1:02:33 | 1:02:36 | |
When I look, I see all these people with guns. | 1:02:39 | 1:02:41 | |
They were dressed in green, | 1:02:41 | 1:02:43 | |
so I thought they were like Cuban commandos. | 1:02:43 | 1:02:45 | |
So I started screaming, "Cuba is coming!" And Lazaro said, Cuba! | 1:02:45 | 1:02:49 | |
So everyone in the house thought it was Cuba. | 1:02:49 | 1:02:51 | |
I clearly remember the lady that came in to get him, | 1:02:51 | 1:02:55 | |
saying, "Where is the F kid? Where is the F goddamn kid?" | 1:02:55 | 1:03:00 | |
I did step forward, a little bit aggressive, you know, like mad? | 1:03:00 | 1:03:04 | |
And she says, "If you take one more step, I'm going to shoot." | 1:03:04 | 1:03:08 | |
I'm running to the front and then, you know, | 1:03:08 | 1:03:10 | |
Elian jumps on me and then I give him to Donato. | 1:03:10 | 1:03:13 | |
If there was anybody, it shouldn't have been me that night, | 1:03:13 | 1:03:17 | |
that got Elian into my arms. | 1:03:17 | 1:03:18 | |
But everyone seemed to be running for shelter | 1:03:18 | 1:03:21 | |
because they are hearing the same thing I'm hearing, | 1:03:21 | 1:03:23 | |
"Get down or we'll shoot." | 1:03:23 | 1:03:24 | |
We are thinking, "Oh, wow, they're going to kill us." | 1:03:24 | 1:03:27 | |
I see out of the closet, Donato and Elian. | 1:03:28 | 1:03:32 | |
The boy says to me, "Que esta pasando? Que esta pasando?" | 1:03:34 | 1:03:37 | |
I said, "Nothing is happening, baby, but everything | 1:03:39 | 1:03:43 | |
"is going to be all right." | 1:03:43 | 1:03:45 | |
Boom! The door busted open and there is a federal armed agent | 1:03:46 | 1:03:50 | |
with an assault weapon, and he's got that thing pointed directly at me | 1:03:50 | 1:03:54 | |
and Elian. All I hear is... | 1:03:54 | 1:03:56 | |
HE IMITATES A CAMERA FLASH | 1:03:56 | 1:03:59 | |
I'm flashing, I'm strobing this guy in the face. | 1:03:59 | 1:04:02 | |
It was, you know, freedom of press. | 1:04:04 | 1:04:06 | |
You can't touch that. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:08 | |
And he's screaming, "Give me the kid. Give me the effing kid." | 1:04:11 | 1:04:16 | |
Within seconds, a woman appeared in the room | 1:04:17 | 1:04:20 | |
and that's when I handed Elian over to the agent. | 1:04:20 | 1:04:24 | |
Get ready to get the boy. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:27 | |
They've got the boy, they've got the boy. | 1:04:29 | 1:04:31 | |
All I could hear was Elian screaming, "Prima, Prima, Prima!" | 1:04:38 | 1:04:42 | |
You know, just calling out. | 1:04:44 | 1:04:45 | |
And I couldn't do anything. | 1:04:47 | 1:04:49 | |
SHOUTING AND SCREAMING | 1:04:51 | 1:04:54 | |
Elian was just a kid, and that day, they risked his life. | 1:05:40 | 1:05:44 | |
I sometimes wonder what Juan Miguel felt about that. | 1:05:44 | 1:05:48 | |
I would have never wanted my child to be taken out like that. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:54 | |
Elian Gonzales is, as we speak, being flown | 1:05:55 | 1:05:59 | |
to Andrews Air Force Base, just outside of Washington, | 1:05:59 | 1:06:02 | |
where he will be reunited with his father. | 1:06:02 | 1:06:05 | |
Pictures taken by an Associated Press photographer | 1:07:08 | 1:07:10 | |
which the administration will have to answer to. | 1:07:10 | 1:07:13 | |
There is a picture...of that little boy's fear, he's scared, | 1:07:13 | 1:07:18 | |
so Janet Reno and everybody else, | 1:07:18 | 1:07:20 | |
don't say you came here with no violence, | 1:07:20 | 1:07:22 | |
and that this boy is OK. How can this boy not be... | 1:07:22 | 1:07:26 | |
How can this boy be OK when he had a gun at his head? | 1:07:26 | 1:07:29 | |
Marisleysis Gonzales expressing her feelings on what happened, | 1:07:29 | 1:07:32 | |
and describing what happened here this morning. | 1:07:32 | 1:07:34 | |
-They treated us like criminals. -I know. | 1:07:34 | 1:07:38 | |
They broke... | 1:07:50 | 1:07:52 | |
They broke Elian's bed. | 1:07:53 | 1:07:55 | |
He was saying, "Que pasa? Que pasa? What's going on?" | 1:07:59 | 1:08:02 | |
I just held his head like this. | 1:08:02 | 1:08:05 | |
My God, America, what did you do to this boy? | 1:08:05 | 1:08:08 | |
All right, Marisleysis Gonzales, Donato Dalrymple, | 1:08:08 | 1:08:12 | |
thank you very much. | 1:08:12 | 1:08:14 | |
Up until the last, we tried every way we could | 1:08:32 | 1:08:35 | |
to encourage Lazaro Gonzalez to voluntarily hand over the child | 1:08:35 | 1:08:39 | |
to his father. | 1:08:39 | 1:08:41 | |
Unfortunately the Miami relatives rejected our efforts, | 1:08:42 | 1:08:47 | |
leaving us no other option but the enforcement action. | 1:08:47 | 1:08:50 | |
SIREN BLARES | 1:08:50 | 1:08:53 | |
An election in turmoil. | 1:09:01 | 1:09:03 | |
A presidency in the balance. | 1:09:03 | 1:09:05 | |
A nation waits. | 1:09:05 | 1:09:07 | |
Who will emerge the winner in the historic Florida recount? | 1:09:07 | 1:09:10 | |
There were 10,000 Cuban-American Democrats | 1:09:10 | 1:09:13 | |
who became Republicans post-Elian. | 1:09:13 | 1:09:17 | |
Had the Elian event been handled better, | 1:09:17 | 1:09:19 | |
hell, we might not have had the Iraq war. | 1:09:19 | 1:09:22 | |
I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear... | 1:09:24 | 1:09:26 | |
President Bush became the President of the United States in 2000 | 1:09:26 | 1:09:30 | |
because of Elian Gonzales. There is no doubt in my mind. | 1:09:30 | 1:09:34 | |
And I think that the numbers prove that out. | 1:09:34 | 1:09:36 | |
Marisleysis and her family would not see Elian again. | 1:10:13 | 1:10:17 | |
In late June, almost seven months after his rescue at sea, | 1:10:17 | 1:10:21 | |
the Supreme Court finally lifted the order | 1:10:21 | 1:10:23 | |
keeping him in the United States. | 1:10:23 | 1:10:26 | |
He and his father were back in Cuba before nightfall. | 1:10:26 | 1:10:28 | |
CROWD CHANTS: Elian! Elian! Elian! Elian! | 1:10:36 | 1:10:39 | |
Castro was, in fact, dedicated to getting that little boy home, | 1:13:06 | 1:13:10 | |
and it became a matter of his heart. | 1:13:10 | 1:13:13 | |
It was not now just a government victory. | 1:13:13 | 1:13:15 | |
And Elian became virtually like a child of his. | 1:13:17 | 1:13:20 | |
CHILDREN SING | 1:13:23 | 1:13:25 | |
As Elian grew up, Fidel continued to celebrate the boy's return as a | 1:13:34 | 1:13:38 | |
triumphant chapter in the larger story of Cuba's revolution. | 1:13:38 | 1:13:41 | |
In the aftermath of the Elian affair, | 1:14:52 | 1:14:55 | |
new Cuban-American leaders challenged the intransigence | 1:14:55 | 1:14:57 | |
of the old guard. | 1:14:57 | 1:14:58 | |
Even the Cuban American National Foundation retreated | 1:15:00 | 1:15:02 | |
from its hardline past, appealing to an exile community | 1:15:02 | 1:15:05 | |
that was less defined by the old hatreds and paving the way | 1:15:05 | 1:15:09 | |
for historic changes in American policy. | 1:15:09 | 1:15:11 | |
We definitely began focusing on a younger and different generation. | 1:15:11 | 1:15:15 | |
Both here and in Cuba. | 1:15:15 | 1:15:18 | |
We have to talk to their hopes and aspirations. | 1:15:21 | 1:15:24 | |
They are going to be the key to the future. | 1:15:24 | 1:15:26 | |
The first American President in 88 years touched down | 1:15:34 | 1:15:37 | |
just a few moments ago, here in Cuba. | 1:15:37 | 1:15:40 | |
-BARACK OBAMA: -I have come here to bury the last remnant | 1:16:13 | 1:16:16 | |
of the Cold War in the Americas. | 1:16:16 | 1:16:18 | |
Havana is only 90 miles from Florida. | 1:16:19 | 1:16:22 | |
But to get here, we had to travel a great distance. | 1:16:23 | 1:16:26 | |
Over barriers of history, and ideology... | 1:16:27 | 1:16:30 | |
..barriers of pain and separation. | 1:16:32 | 1:16:34 | |
In many ways, the United States and Cuba are like two brothers | 1:16:34 | 1:16:38 | |
who have been estranged for many years. | 1:16:38 | 1:16:41 | |
I want the Cuban people, especially the young people, | 1:16:49 | 1:16:52 | |
to understand why I believe that you should look to the future with hope. | 1:16:52 | 1:16:56 | |
Hope that is rooted in the future that YOU can choose, | 1:16:56 | 1:17:00 | |
and that YOU can shape and that you can build for your country. | 1:17:00 | 1:17:03 | |
MILITARY DRUM PLAYS | 1:18:15 | 1:18:17 | |
Did I want him to stay in America? | 1:18:25 | 1:18:27 | |
Selfishly, yes. | 1:18:27 | 1:18:28 | |
He was going to have scholarships, he was going to go to college, | 1:18:28 | 1:18:31 | |
he was going to have the American Dream. | 1:18:31 | 1:18:34 | |
But, you know, in the end, | 1:18:34 | 1:18:35 | |
I realised that that American Dream wasn't for him. | 1:18:35 | 1:18:38 | |
As he lives out his life, what role he will play in Cuba, | 1:18:40 | 1:18:44 | |
what role he will play in the Cuban revolution | 1:18:44 | 1:18:47 | |
that is to come, inevitably, | 1:18:47 | 1:18:50 | |
he will be part of a new generation. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:52 | |
And how he will weather that, how he will respond to that | 1:18:52 | 1:18:57 | |
is probably partly related to what will happen to Cuba, | 1:18:57 | 1:19:02 | |
and some of that depends on us. | 1:19:02 | 1:19:04 | |
I shouldn't be happy because a person has died. | 1:20:38 | 1:20:40 | |
But he separated my family, my parents never got to see Cuba again. | 1:20:40 | 1:20:47 | |
So today, I rejoice for this. | 1:20:47 | 1:20:50 | |
As Cuban-Americans celebrated Fidel's death, | 1:20:55 | 1:20:58 | |
Miami talk shows replayed Elian's comments | 1:20:58 | 1:21:00 | |
and revisited a long-running question. | 1:21:00 | 1:21:03 | |
What sort of man had the miracle boy become? | 1:21:03 | 1:21:05 | |
People have told me, "Oh, did you hear what Elian said?" | 1:21:08 | 1:21:10 | |
He is brainwashed. | 1:21:10 | 1:21:12 | |
I say he's not at fault for what he has become, | 1:21:15 | 1:21:18 | |
where he's at right now, he doesn't know any better. | 1:21:18 | 1:21:22 | |
So I don't judge him. | 1:21:24 | 1:21:26 | |
I just sit and wait. | 1:21:28 | 1:21:30 | |
I would love to see him here. | 1:21:54 | 1:21:56 | |
Even if it's just a visit. | 1:21:57 | 1:21:58 | |
But I don't see myself going back to Cuba. | 1:22:00 | 1:22:02 | |
I feel that I would be betraying his mother. | 1:22:04 | 1:22:06 | |
I'm not in his future, I'm in his past, so... | 1:22:13 | 1:22:16 | |
Years can go by and it's the same thing over and over. | 1:22:16 | 1:22:19 | |
Whoever is right or wrong, we are family. | 1:22:50 | 1:22:53 | |
And we love each other. | 1:22:54 | 1:22:56 | |
I dream till the day comes that I can speak to him. | 1:22:58 | 1:23:01 | |
I love him. | 1:23:03 | 1:23:04 | |
No matter who, or what he chooses to be. | 1:23:06 | 1:23:10 |