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Welcome to A Taste Of My Life, the show that serves up famous lives on a plate.

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What we eat can tell us an awful lot about who we are.

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Whether it's the food we love, or hate.

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Taking a culinary trip down memory lane can evoke memories,

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both good and bad.

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Which is why I'm going to guide today's famous face

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through the tastes and flavours of their life.

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Now, today's guest can be best described in just a few words.

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He's unpredictable.

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# I know all there is to know about the crying game

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# Share of the crying game...

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He's definitely been something of a rabble-rouser in his time.

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You're so thick. I'm going home, then.

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You're so...dead.

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You really are dead!

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And I like your telephone manner, it's nice.

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And he's known as something of a tough nut.

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Forest, chased by hounds.

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Guards, guards!

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In my own room? In my own room?

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Where are the men? This is nothing to do with Robin Hood!

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Yes, today's guest is Keith Allen.

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As long as he behaves himself.

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Coming up in today's show...

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Keith Allen's son Alfie makes bangers and mash,

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and tells us about Keith the dad.

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People get the wrong impression of my dad.

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I've never had any complaints about him,

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so I don't know why Lily does.

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Keith and I take each other on in a cook-off,

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to make the perfect Yorkshire pudding.

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-So you beat your eggs separately?

-I'm just gonna lie. Always.

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And bad boy of British art, and Keith's buddy,

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Damien Hirst, cooks up a work of art.

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What is wrong with chefs?

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They're either rubbish at their job, or they're rotten people.

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You get nothing in the middle.

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-Keith Allen, welcome to A Taste Of My Life.

-Thank you.

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Now, you were born in Wales.

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-Your father was a submariner.

-Mm-hm.

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Are we talking family meals? Did you sit round?

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No, that was never a big thing.

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It was because time was so fractured.

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My dad was either away on a submarine, and not there,

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or my mum was at work.

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But there was with my grandmother,

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when we used to go and stay with my grandmother in Wales.

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That was a big thing.

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Are there any particular things that she'd make that you miss?

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Anything you really loved?

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My favourite meal was stuffed hearts.

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That was a very, very common dish.

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No surprise, then, that the Sheriff of Nottingham eats stuffed sheep's hearts.

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But don't go all funny at the knees.

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For my stuffing, I'm using bacon, onions,

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and a healthy dose of lemon rind,

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to cut through the heart's richness, though you COULD use orange.

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There is this sort of yucky thing about offal,

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but in fact, it's absolutely delicious.

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-We ate stuffed hearts. We ate liver.

-Did you really?

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Yes, we ate liver.

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We ate a lot of liver, actually.

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But you're right. It was...

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I mean, it was a money thing, more than anything else.

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I'm also using suet, as well as bread crumbs,

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for an extra-rich flavour to the stuffing.

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But also, there was something about,

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certainly MY mother, wanting to use bits that other people didn't.

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The bits that actually are delicious.

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The kidneys and that sort of thing, that now, people think, "Yuk."

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Because we're prone to being a bit squeamish,

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it won't come as a surprise that hearts are rarely seen in our supermarkets.

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If you want a comparison, their taste is very similar to venison.

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I haven't eaten this for 30 years, 25 years, now.

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I'm trying to picture you as a little boy.

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For some reason, I'm thinking of you always being a bit naughty.

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I remember, years ago, Ken Campbell the playwright,

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he directed a play that I saw up in Hull.

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One of the characters was describing somebody as being like a stoat.

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What a stoat does is,

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you put it in a little cage, and then it scratches away at that,

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and gets out of the cage into the kitchen.

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Then it scratches the kitchen door and gets to the garden.

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That's what I was like.

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And they would find me in various places in the house.

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I'd be in the airing cupboard.

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I'd climb up into the airing cupboard, and sleep by the boiler.

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At other times, I'd open the bottom drawer of a chest of drawers,

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get in with the blankets, and shut the drawer.

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-I can see you being the face of...

-Hearts.

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Blackcurrant pie, as made by Keith's nan.

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The great thing about blackcurrants is that they freeze incredibly well,

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so this can be made all year round.

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To thicken the pie filling, use cornflour.

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But don't just throw it in. It'll get lumpy.

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Instead, smooth the cornflour into a paste first,

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using the currant juice.

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You could add some cinnamon to the pastry,

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to give your pie a bit of personality.

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And you shouldn't feel too guilty about this.

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After all, the blackcurrants ARE full of Vitamin C and antioxidants.

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Well, that's my excuse.

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Wow! And there's steam coming off it.

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Look at that inside. It's so beautiful.

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Would you say that it was a happy childhood?

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Happy's the wrong word. It was busy.

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It was a very, very busy childhood.

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To say that your dad is a submariner is a conversation stopper amongst kids.

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-It's like, "Wow!"

-Oh, yeah.

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But the bad boy Keith Allen we've all come to know,

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and, sometimes, love, wasn't something he grew into.

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All the signs of mischief were there from an early age.

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You did spend some time in a detention centre.

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-You went to borstal.

-I went to remand homes,

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hostels, detention centre, borstal.

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And boarding school and a comprehensive.

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And prison. All the institutions, I've done.

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Borstal, I put my hands up and say, I really enjoyed it.

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I can't imagine the food was particularly exciting.

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Institutional food, sadly, isn't.

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No, but it was very welcome.

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And when not locked up in an institution,

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he was back at his nan's, tucking into the Welsh classic cawl soup.

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I know that it has to be neck of lamb.

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OK, cos I have heard people say that you CAN use beef,

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it depends what's around.

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I have never, in my life.

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-That's not cawl, that's Irish stew.

-So, it's a proper neck of lamb?

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It HAS to be neck of lamb.

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As Keith says, neck of lamb really is the best option here,

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as it benefits from slow cooking.

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But I might have to take issue with him.

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You really could throw in lamb, mutton, beef, pork,

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or even bacon, if you wanted to.

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Perfect cawl is to make it the day before,

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and then leave it overnight,

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and eat it the following day, which I still do.

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It's that strange thing that something happens overnight,

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-that is nothing to do with the cook, it's just the food.

-It's thinking.

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It is thinking, exactly, it's settling down,

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and all the ingredients marry, and get to know each other.

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I feel the same about a few things.

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-Trifle's another one, in the fridge.

-Fantastic.

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-And curry.

-Oh, yeah.

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Given Keith's mishaps as a teenager,

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it's maybe a touch ironic that the Welsh phrase,

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"to make a cawl of something" means to mess something up.

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I'm very cheap. My hearts of lamb and my neck of lamb.

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-A cheap date.

-I am, aren't I?

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-You said people should be naughty more often.

-Yes, I did.

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If you'd been my godfather,

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you might have encouraged me to not be the good boy all my life,

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cos I've always been the good boy. I've never been naughty.

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-Do you think you'll always be a naughty boy?

-No, I think you get bored with it.

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There are other pleasurable things to do,

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like watching your kids be naughty. I like that.

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One of the secrets to parenting is to know when not to tell your kids off,

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to let them get away with it, and pretend that you don't know.

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As he moved into his 20s and 30s,

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Keith Allen was to embrace the challenges of parenthood.

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Most notably becoming father to one of our most popular darlings of the pop world, Lily Allen.

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-How many kids have you got?

-A few.

-A few?

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Eight.

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I don't like talking about it.

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You didn't see much of your dad, really.

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Has that affected how you are as a dad?

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-What sort of dad are you?

-It's very difficult when they read in the papers,

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"Another three-day bender on drugs and drink,"

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and you're trying to say, "Do your homework."

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They go, "Hang on, Dad."

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Interestingly, Lily's discovered what I've been telling her for years.

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I would say, "That's not true."

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She'd go, "It is." "I swear it's not."

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Within three days of her being a recognisable face,

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she's on the phone, going, "I can't believe these people."

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They just make it up.

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Your family, one of them's got a little message for you.

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This'll be brilliant. The 35-year-old.

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"So you're my father, are you?"

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'Just sausage, mash and beans.'

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Really simple.

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He's cooked me roasts and stuff plenty of times.

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I think that's really the only proper meal he can cook, to be honest.

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Like every good man should.

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He's right.

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How many of these do you think I should do?

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-About five of those.

-Five!

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-Lily's the same.

-He's a lovely guy.

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He's very affectionate.

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Sometimes, he's really crap at doing small things,

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but then when it comes to being there when you really need him,

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he's brilliant at it.

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-He's a lovely dad, but he's a...

-Isn't that sweet?

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Like all dads, they CAN be a bit useless at times.

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He's always been there for me. I know stuff with Lily, and that,

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people kind of get the wrong impression of my dad.

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He's not like that at all.

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The papers want to put a picture out there

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about him being quite a distant dad,

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and wasn't really there most of the time, but that's absolute rubbish.

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He was there, and I've never had any complaints about him.

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So I don't know why Lily does.

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Really, he's just a chilled-out guy.

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He's not really that mad, or not mad in a bad way, but sort of...

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Goes out and has it large all the time. That's not my dad.

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Well, that looks great, Nigel, that.

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This is for my dad.

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He's going to enjoy it a lot, I hope.

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We love him to bits. You can't not love Dad.

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-Aw!

-And his flat Yorkshire pudding is great.

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We love the flat Yorkshire pudding.

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Dad, I want you to cook Yorkshire pudding with Nigel Slater.

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Have a cook-off. See who cooks it best.

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I know that yours is, shall we say, flat Yorkshire pudding,

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but I think you can do it, and I want to see it happen.

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-So, make it happen.

-I wish!

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-Can I eat a bit of it?

-Course you can.

-Just a little.

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There are two things which I think every man should be able to make, scrambled egg...

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..and mashed potato.

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Alfie has given you the challenge. Are you up for it?

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Yeah, I'll have a go. Definitely.

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You'll have to remind me of how to do it.

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-No problem.

-God, that's good!

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OK, time to show the sheriff a trick or two.

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Why is he so sure that Dad's puddings are always flat?

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Because they always are!

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Having said that, I'm really going to focus on this.

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-But do you do it the right way?

-I don't know. I'm going to copy you.

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My mum always told me that the key is how hot this is,

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-before you put the mix in with it.

-She's completely right.

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What you want, ideally, is that sort of "swoosh"

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of batter going in the hot fat.

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When people say it won't rise,

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it's because they didn't get their fat hot enough.

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It's not a race. You go on the top.

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-No, you go on the top.

-Thank you.

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Now, this is how I mix mine. Ha ha!

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Hm-hm!

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You beat your eggs separately.

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I'm just going to lie, always.

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My mum used to let her batter rest.

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Yes, for about 20 minutes.

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I think it is the fact that the gluten can rest.

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-You're not shocking it by...

-Uh-huh.

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The magic works if you leave things alone.

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You're not making rock cakes!

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If we were making muffins, I would say yes, that's right, yeah.

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-Is your whisk bigger than mine?

-No.

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-Really!

-Now put salt.

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That's mine.

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This looks so easy.

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No, it's not hot enough.

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It's not hot enough.

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I've got to go back.

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-Is it?

-It really isn't hot enough.

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But mine was on the top.

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Actually, yours has bubbled up.

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Yes, good! See!

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I'm gonna have to stick mine on top for a bit.

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Yeah, but you very cleverly kept me talking for a couple of minutes,

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while my fat cooled down. That's too much.

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Your cup might overfloweth, there.

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You know, shape...

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-You've done worse than me!

-I've dribbled! I've so dribbled!

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Yours are rising already!

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Perfect mix. See! Tennis elbow.

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It's not fair I get the bottom shelf.

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Now, my suggestion, Nigel, right, is...

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-We take them out...

-Yeah...

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Lie them on the thingy-bob here...

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And then you can show the people at home...

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I got the bottom shelf!

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Look...

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-Yes. These are the ones you get in a packet.

-You got the top bunk.

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I certainly did.

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But there's a lesson to be learnt,

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for all aspiring Yorkshire pudding makers.

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-Which is, get the top shelf.

-Get the top shelf.

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I tell you what. Look, look.

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Look.

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It's like slowly murdering a jellyfish.

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Look at that.

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And that.

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Look, burnt on the...

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It's worse by the minute.

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If I could help you out,

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I don't think you put enough goose fat in there.

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I really don't.

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Still to come on A Taste of My Life...

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Keith talks about the joys

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of playing the Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood.

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I get everyone else to do my fighting.

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"This is the Sheriff, go and fight him."

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All these things, you have to consider, when you take a part.

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The world's most successful living artist, Damien Hirst,

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makes a rather expensive sauerkraut for his drinking buddy.

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And over his final feast,

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Keith Allen considers what the future holds in store for him.

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-What is the future?

-Don't grow up.

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You do have a bit of a reputation as a party animal.

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-You love a good party, don't you?

-Yep. Yeah, I do.

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Alfie's right. I do have this reputation.

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I'm one of these people, I never, ever drink at home.

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I've never drunk at home.

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I have an idea of people going down the list, thinking,

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"What's going to make this party work?"

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-and it's, "Invitation to Keith."

-Yeah.

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There is that sort of...

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I know, they'd be right, because I'm only there to have a good time,

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and it's because anything can happen.

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Talking of the unexpected...

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-It's my old headmaster, naked.

-I'm afraid so(!)

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I've sat up there, with him.

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I was going to do roast pork, roast potatoes with sauerkraut,

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which I've done, I think, before, when Keith's come down.

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So, this is a little number I wrote back in...

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I learnt to cook this when I was in prison.

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I'm sure I've cooked this for him when he's been down here.

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In the glory years.

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I always think that cooking's like art, without the evidence.

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If you make a piece of art,

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then it's around for sometimes longer than we're around.

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I think I was aware of him in the Groucho Club,

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when Keith was in there being a mental case,

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and I always used to look at him and think,

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"Oh, my God, what's that guy like?" He was quite intimidating, really.

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Like 12 years ago, my girlfriend Maia came down to me,

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and she says, "I've got a confession to make."

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And I said, "What?"

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She said, "I've asked Keith Allen to be Connor's godfather."

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My 11-year-old son now. I went, "Oh, no! I can't believe it!"

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I was like, "What? That nutcase? I can't believe it."

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Then he came right up to me, and he went, "I'm the godfather."

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I was like, "Oh, jeez." Mr Give.

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I don't understand Mr Give.

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I remember being drunk, talking to Keith,

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and he's always concerned about me and giving me guidance.

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Whenever I turn round to him, "What about you?"

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He'd always go, "Don't worry about me, I'm Mr Give."

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Is that cider? Champagne?

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-Champagne?

-That's the secret ingredient for my sauerkraut.

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When I first met Keith, I was intimidated,

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but we'd go in the Groucho Club,

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and you'd see all the Rowan Atkinsons and Rik Mayalls,

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and while Keith was a kind of nutter,

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they all respected him really massively.

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In a way, a bit like John Lennon, or something like that.

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I've always admired those people who area working-class hero,

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or people who remain true to who they are,

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as they go up the greasy pole.

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What is wrong with chefs?

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They're either rubbish at their job,

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or they're rotten people, aren't they?

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You get nothing in the middle.

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Slowing down? I don't know.

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I think he's slowing down, and we can have a civilised time,

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and then I see him at eight in the morning,

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with bloodshot eyes, going, "I'm Dad!"

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Fantastic.

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Oh, look at that.

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Wow.

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Sadly, we can't eat Damien's roast pork with sauerkraut.

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I think he sold it to the Tate.

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Very good!

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After Keith's bout of bad behaviour,

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he discovered an ability to make people laugh,

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and increasingly found himself rubbing shoulders with comedians and actors.

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I became a comedian for a bit.

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And then ended up presenting a TV show, Whatever You Want,

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which was the first youth TV access programme,

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and on the strength of that, wrote stuff for The Comic Strip.

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-Talk me through breakfast, Roy.

-Thanks, Mum.

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My favourite breakfast.

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Nobody does bangers like my mum. Is that all right?

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And it was through The Comic Strip that I started to act.

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The thing I think of, when I think of you, is Shallow Grave.

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Which I can watch over and over again,

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partly because I put myself in the position of your flatmates.

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What would happen if Keith Allen suddenly became my flatmate,

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and then dropped dead, and left a big suitcase of money.

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It's a great premise, isn't it?

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All this success that you've had,

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has it changed what you eat, and how you think about food, at all?

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I think I've got a slightly more sophisticated palate than I had when I was younger.

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Otherwise, I just had my head in a bag of Maris potatoes.

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-You've got a favourite dish.

-A warm potato...

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..and herring salad.

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-Is this the Swedish version?

-No, I got it in France.

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Hmmm, a curious taste of success.

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When making a potato salad, try and use yellow-fleshed waxy potatoes.

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-This way, they'll keep their shape.

-Just really, really simple,

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but it's something that I try and eat as much as I can, anywhere.

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And I've seen it on quite a few menus.

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Add your vinaigrette to the potatoes whilst they're still warm,

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so that the spuds soak up the flavour.

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Every nation has its own twist on warm potato salad.

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Germans add a bit of tomato, peppers and bacon.

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The Greeks prefer it with garlic, olive oil and lemon,

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whilst Italians go for fresh parsley, salami and olive oil.

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It's part of that great history of potato-and-fish dishes,

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whether it's as simple as fish and chips,

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-or whether it's a fishcake, or a fish pie.

-Mm.

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It just works, it's the textures.

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The thing about the herring is that little bit of sharpness, sometimes,

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-with the warm spuds.

-Yeah.

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-Just completely gorgeous.

-It's brilliant. See, I AM sophisticated.

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Herring. An ultra-healthy fish option.

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I'm simply using a warmed rollmop, or pickled herring,

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for this dish, which is simply laid on top.

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A beautiful little side dish to this is beetroot salad.

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Use just a couple of chopped and cooked beetroots,

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and mix in some creme fraiche.

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Add some dill, and hey presto,

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a companion to the herring-and-potato salad.

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And one of the biggest successes you've had was,

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-of course, Martin Chuzzlewit.

-Yep.

-Did you enjoy it?

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I did. Yeah, it was...

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There was one afternoon when I was in this horse-drawn carriage.

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Myself, Paul Schofield,

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John Mills and Julian Fellowes,

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and I think we must have...

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I was praying that things would go wrong, so we could go round again,

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cos I was just sat in this carriage with these three other guys,

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-and then I suddenly thought, "My God, this really is brilliant."

-Pour one.

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Oh yes, as much of that as you like.

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'That's a once in a lifetime experience, that,

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'to have done it with those people.

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Seems pretty smooth to me.

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And of course, now, the Sheriff.

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A lot of people have said that you're the perfect person.

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Well, I tell you what happened.

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I went out, did it, and I think, about three or four weeks in...

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..they liked what I did, and they said, "Can we go for lunch?"

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This is the producers.

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And I went to lunch, and they said,

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"How would you feel about coming back next year?"

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And I said, "Yeah, great."

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"It seems a great idea. I like doing it."

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They said "No, to be honest, in the original scripts, the Sheriff dies in episode 12."

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I said, "Really?" and they said "Yes."

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"We've decided, because we like the Sheriff, that he doesn't die. He comes back."

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Not now, Locksley. "Oh, I won't kill you."

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"I'm going to kill you, I mean it."

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What's fantastic about it was I get everyone to do my fighting, and everything.

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Cos he's the Sheriff. Go and fight him.

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And it's 40 degrees, out in Budapest.

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I just sit there in a chair going, "Brilliant. Wonderful part."

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All these things you have to consider when you take a part.

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Time to reflect on Keith's life over his final feast.

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First up, it's some simply roasted poussin.

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Keith, your final feast.

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Tell me about these little chickens.

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Why those?

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They're so tender.

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You don't have to cook them for a long time,

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for the meat just to fall away from the bone.

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I love the skin.

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It's the youth of it, really. They're so young.

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OK, you've got clams here, and you've got spaghetti.

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Spaghetti vongole. Quintessential summer dish.

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It's one of the great simple dishes of the world.

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Pop your clams into a bowl, and thoroughly rinse in cold water.

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The best way to spot a truly fresh clam is to tap it,

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and check that it closes tightly.

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A shy clam is a healthy clam.

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There's a lot of seafood in my life, isn't there?

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-There is. The caviar on your baked potatoes...

-Yeah.

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Another no-frills dish.

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Mix the insides of your potatoes with creme fraiche and chives,

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and put back into your potato skins.

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To get nice and crispy baked spuds, brush with oil,

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and sprinkle with salt before popping them into the oven.

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And then, it's luxury time.

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-Caviar. Hot pud. Bread and butter pudding, is this?

-Yeah.

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It's just all comfort food, isn't it? I make no bones about it.

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Bread and butter pudding simply keeps getting better with time.

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There are countless ways to make it,

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though I'm going for the most traditional,

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by adding sultanas and sprinkling some cinnamon,

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but maybe you could try throwing in some whisky in with your custard,

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for a grown-up taste.

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Or even replace your sultanas with blueberries.

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I mean, looking at this, this must be heaven.

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Well, it is, it's heaven to me.

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But people are often asked, "What would your favourite feast be?"

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and they never, ever get it realised.

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So this is fantastic, to physically see this.

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What next? I mean, what is there for you to do?

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Grow up.

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Don't do that, don't do that!

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I love having been given the opportunity

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to be a baddie to a generation of kids.

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You know, how many people get that opportunity?

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It's incredible.

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Do you regret anything you haven't done?

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Anything that you think that you should have done?

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I could have listened a bit more.

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I'm one of those people that is of the moment.

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I've always lived in the moment, and thought in the moment.

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Which is great, but as you get older,

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you have less and less moments to live in.

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I think I was very arrogant when I was younger,

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and I think that kind of edge has been taken off.

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-Keith Allen, thank you...

-Thank you.

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-It's been a real pleasure.

-..for being a guest on A Taste of My Life.

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-It's a pleasure, thanks.

-Cheers. Nice wine.

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