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Eating and drinking isn't just about fuel. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
The pure joy you get from a great meal | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
goes way beyond simple sustenance. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
They say, "A little bit of what you fancy does you good," | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
for a good reason! | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
Life would be so boring without a few guilty pleasures. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
And that's exactly what this show's all about. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
'We're making one of our best-loved indulgent dishes - | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
'pizza! | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
'Angela Hartnett's here to share her wonderfully simple dish | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
'that will send your taste buds to heaven!' | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Oh, yeah. Mm-mm! That's what a pizza should taste like. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
'Drinks expert Kate Goodman | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
'reveals her secrets to great drinks matching' | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
and shows us how to select the very best Italian reds. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
'Rachel Khoo takes on the diet brigade | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
'and stands up for full-fat food.' | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
Low-fat? You can keep it! | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
'And I show you how to make a salted caramel dessert to die for.' | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
Welcome to a very decadent Food & Drink. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
What would life be without treats? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
What's your guilty pleasure? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
A cream tea? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
A plate of fried chicken? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
Your favourite tipple? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
Or a bar of chocolate? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
Let's face it! We all do it - | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
reward ourselves with the occasional, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
and not so occasional, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
indulgence! | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
Michelin-starred chef Angela Hartnett | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
comes from an Italian family | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
where rich pasta sauces and creamy risotto are regulars on the menu. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
She's going to show me how to create another delicious | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
and indulgent dish that we often feel a bit guilty about eating. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Your guilty pleasure has to be Italian! It's got to! | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
My real guilty pleasure, if I'm really honest, is crisps. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
I love plain crisps. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
-I'm shocked and disappointed. -I bet you've had one. -Yes. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
What are we cooking, then? | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
A lovely pizzetta - the classic Italian pizza. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
There's certain things I think the Italians do very well | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
and better than anyone else. One is pizza, the other's coffee | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
and ice cream. We're going with pizza today. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
'Angela's pizza bianca uses rich and creamy Taleggio cheese | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
'and is paired with a simple chicory salad | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
'that perfectly complements this classic Italian dish.' | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Pizza to me, it's sort of the antithesis. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
You sometimes think it's an indulgence, a luxury, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
but I think there's nothing better than a simple pizza bianca, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
or a bit of mozzarella, a bit of anchovy. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-In winter you've got white truffle shaved on top... -Oh... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
-..with a bit of Parmesan. -Stop it. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
It's such a simple dish but it's the quality of the ingredients | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
you put on that makes it so special. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
'This pizza dough is made from | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
'strong bread flour that's high in gluten | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
'and will make a light | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
'but elastic dough.' | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
We also put a little bit of salt in. Not too much in the pizza dough | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
because you don't want to kill off all the yeast. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
That's another secret, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
cos the seasoning goes in with the ingredients. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
'A thin and crispy pizza base like this | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
'is virtually guilt- and fat-free. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
'You just add half liquid to flour - | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
'125ml of warm water to mix with a pinch of sugar | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
'and fresh yeast.' | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
In Italy, the pizza comes from Naples. That's where they do it. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
They do it very simply. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Just tomato, mozzarella, nothing else. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
I think in the South of France, they do that as well, don't they? | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
Absolutely. Yes. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
In Provence they make the pissaladiere, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
which is the onion pizza. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
And those little pizzette with just tomato, maybe...maybe an anchovy | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
on but always very, very simple, and I think | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
simple is best when it comes to pizzas. No pineapple! | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
You know what? I'm going to tell you a story quickly. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
It's just reminded me. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
I went on a date with a guy once. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
You know you think there's the top ten questions? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
If they do this, or that, it'll never work. We went for a pizza. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
He said, "Pineapple with ham." I thought, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
"I should leave now cos it's never going to work." | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
Just, you know... And that was our one and only date. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
I thought I'd knocked it on the head then. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Thank you for sharing that lovely little nugget. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
I know. What a lovely person(!) | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
My mother's going, "That's why you're still unmarried, you see?" | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
'The dough needs 10 to 15 minutes of kneading | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
'while Angela gets on with the salad.' | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
The reason I've gone for chicory is cos I love that crunch with it. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
And it's slightly bitter. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
-Yeah, exactly. Yeah. -Just love it. I love a bitter salad. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
'This is such a simple salad, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
'it's just leaves, lemon zest | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
'and a fresh dressing, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
'which is only added when you're ready to eat.' | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
No olive oil at the moment. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
No vinaigrette or anything cos I don't want it to kill it off. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
We'll finish it with a little Dijon mustard and salt. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
The secret to a great salad. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
-Not seasoning too soon, not putting the dressing on too soon. -Exactly. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Just keeping it very nice and fresh. We might add a little bit of chilli. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
I think it's quite sharp in a way, chicory. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
It's got its own flavour and I think it can hold well with Dijon mustard. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
I'll add that with a little olive oil and a touch of vinegar. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-This is a French dressing. -I know. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Of course. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
You lot do something right. The odd thing is the dressing. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-Got to give you something. How's it feeling? -Smooth. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
And quite wet still, isn't it? | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
It's still quite wet. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
The trend these days is wetter dough. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
It's a lighter bread. Right, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
so we just leave our dough to prove up. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
We're going to let it rise for about 20 minutes, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
half an hour somewhere warm. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Our salad's ready. Once that's ready, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
we'll make our pizza. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
Indulgent food can often feel like a guilty pleasure | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
because you don't know how it's made. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
But when you make your own treats with fantastic ingredients, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
you can indulge yourself with a clearer conscience. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
So what would you drink with this, then? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Well, Italian pizza. It's got to be Italian wine. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Angela's got a good point. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
By matching food and wine from the same country, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
you're much more likely to get a good match. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Italy produces some of the greatest red wines in the world. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
And if you follow Kate's golden rules, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
you'll pick the best of the bunch. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Italy is the second-biggest producer of wine after France | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
with a breathtaking diversity of styles. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
There are hundreds of red grape varieties. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
But if you think of your wine as fitting into | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
one of these three categories, it can help you find the perfect match. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
If you're looking for a light-bodied red wine, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
an inexpensive northern Italian Barbera would be great. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
The Barbera grape produces a fruity, spicy wine | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
with low tannins, so they're perfect if you don't like that mouth-drying | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
quality that tannin gives red wine. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
You can pick up a soft, easy-going, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
young Barbera for between £5 and £10, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
that'll go perfectly with meat and cheese antipasti. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
When I want something with a bit more heft, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
a bottle of rosso di Montalcino made with 100% Sangiovese grapes | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
which are also largely responsible for wines like | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
the ever-popular Chianti. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Nebbiolo | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
is another grape that makes some of Italy's | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
best medium-bodied red wines | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
like the famous Barolo. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
A good one will set you back a few quid | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
but it's the perfect match for a rich, meaty pasta sauce. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
Now for the full-bodied, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
beefy Italian reds. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
You may not have heard of Aglianico grapes | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
from Campania, in the south of Italy, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
but it's a grape you really should experience. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Red wines made from this grape are amazingly dark and fruity, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
with plummy, chocolaty aromas and are rich enough | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
to match with lamb. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
The fantastic thing about these lesser-known grape varieties | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
is that they often give you great value for money. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
If you follow this simple guide to choosing the right Italian red, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
you'll be sure to make a confident and delicious decision. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
So, Kate, as you're here I'm going to make you do a little work. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
-I'm going to give you a little bit of flour. -Warm hands. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
-Warm hands, and we put a little bit on the bench there. -Right. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
And then we'll divide it in two, actually. Start to roll it out. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
Even if your hands are a bit warm, it's going to be fine. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
So as thin as you can get it, Kate, it'd be perfect. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
I don't know about you, what are you, thin base? Crispy base? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Personally, thin base. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
What we're going to do is put a little bit of polenta on here, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
and what happens is we're going to slide this onto the hot tray | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
-in the oven. -So it doesn't stick. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
That allows us to do it, exactly. It doesn't stick. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
The toppings are, of course, a pizza's crowning glory. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
I've got some Taleggio cheese from northern Italy, from Lombardy, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
that region. So a nice cow's creamy cheese. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
This is where you can go to town | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
with your favourite indulgent ingredients. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
-Spinach here. -Yeah. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
All blanched and then we just keep it nice and dry. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
This is what we call a pizza in bianco if you like, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
because there's no tomato sauce. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Then we've got some Taleggio cheese, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
and that's going to melt like mozzarella. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
So nice big slices of that. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
I don't think we need any salt cos we've got the anchovies, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
but I will put a little bit of pepper. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
-And then we've got in here a bit of garlic and chilli oil. -Oh, yes! | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
Which is perfect, so we might even put a little bit as we come out, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
but we'll certainly put a bit on now. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
And then what you're hoping for is that all that Taleggio | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
obviously melts in with the anchovies. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
One final thing we're going to do, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
we're going to crack an egg right into the middle. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Then, hopefully, that's going to cook, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
and then you've got that lovely soft. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
Oh, fingers crossed. Here we go. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
In the oven. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
So a really hot oven, cos you really want that crispy, crunchy base, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
egg to cook and, well, we wait for a glass of wine, eh, Michel? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
-How long for the pizza? -About three or four minutes. -Oh! | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
-It's quite a big one. -That's great, isn't it? No waiting time. I love it. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
-Let's go. -Oh, Angela! | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
-Fabuloso! -Fabuloso. OK, so... | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
OK. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
-Wow, that's crispy. -That is. And we can do a little bit more garlic oil. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
You could add a little bit of ham or Parmesan. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
-Straight through the egg. -It smells amazing. -Right. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
Oh, yeah, it's crispy. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
That's what we want! Pizza is my perfect indulgent meal. It really is. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
I don't have it that often cos it's cheese... I love, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
you know, I'm a big cheese fan. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
It looks real, it looks as if it's been made by hands. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-Hands that love the food. -That's the thing, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
do you eat with your hands or do you eat with a knife and fork? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Hands, every time. Always. Always. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
-Mmm. -Gooey cheese. It's amazing. -It's lovely, the Taleggio. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
It really melts in with it. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Yeah, and that saltiness really gives it a kick, doesn't it, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
the saltiness from the anchovies? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
-That's what a pizza should taste like. -Well, good pizza, good wine. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-Come on, -missus. Obviously in honour of you, Angela, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
and this delightful pizza, we have gone Italian. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
So three Italian reds, and what I'm looking for here is light to | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
medium bodied, I don't want anything too heavy. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
I don't want anything to overwhelm this. So this is number one. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
This is from Tuscany. Il Poggione Rosso Di Montalcino, 2011. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
Now, this is a bit of a treat wine. Perhaps a nice gift for someone. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-This is around the £20 mark. -OK. -All Sangiovese. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
It's much more approachable, much softer than Brunello. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Brunello's quite serious and dark. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
It'd be too much for this, whereas the Rosso is a bit more elegant. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
-It's delicious. -Fruit. Beautiful light fruit in there. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
It's a gorgeous wine. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:51 | |
It's got a bit of spice, a bit of those dark sour cherries, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
a little bit of chocolate, so there's enough going on there. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
-Oh, yeah. -But still that lovely freshness. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
The second wine is Terre di Giumara Frappato Nerello Mascalese. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:07 | |
Frappato and Nerello Mascalese are the two grape varieties. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
Lesser-known varieties, I'm not sure whether you're familiar with them. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
-I don't think I've heard of them at all actually. -No. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
So this is my quest | 0:12:17 | 0:12:18 | |
to get people drinking more unusual grape varieties. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
This is from Sicily, but the Frappato has that lovely dark colour. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Beautiful colour, isn't it? I'd say a medium bodied. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
It's a lovely soft rounded wine. Just something a little bit different. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
That's very different. I've never come across this before. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
-It feels very gentle, doesn't it? -Yeah. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
It is soft but quite dry on the palate on the finish, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
-and I'm getting notes of coffee and smoke in it. -It's very nice though. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
It's got that lovely smoothness in the mouth. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
It is a great wine for pizza. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
-People are drinking red wines cold now. -It's a great idea. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
-Would you drink that? -I think that would work really nicely. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Just a touch, yeah. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
Not too much, you don't want to chill it down too cold. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-What's the price on that one? -That one is around the £8-10 mark. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
So it's a little bit more affordable. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
The last wine, again we're upping the ante a bit on the price front. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
This is Marziano Abbona Barbera D'Alba. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
This is 2008, so it's got a bit of bottle age. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
So we've gone right from Sicily up to Piedmont in north-west Italy. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Beautiful part of the world. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Barbera's well known for having great acidity, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
so it is perfect for this kind of food. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
But Barbera D'Alba is a little bit up in quality than a basic Barbera. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
You're getting a bit more concentration of flavours, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
a bit plummy, a bit darker fruits. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Definitely more concentrated, isn't it? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Definitely smells very bacony to me. Do you know what I mean? | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-It's got that savoury edge, hasn't it? -Savoury, yeah. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
So what's the damage on the Balbera D'Alba? Cos I'm guessing | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
that's going to be a bit pricey. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
You're up again around the Rosso Di Montalcino price, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
so it is a treat wine or a gift wine, a special occasion wine, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
that's at the £20 mark as well. But worth it. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
-Worth it with the pizza. -I agree. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
It's definitely worth it. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
A great drop of wine, a perfect pizza, | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
a very simple perfect pizza, and a beautiful little salad. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
This delicious pizza is full of fantastic ingredients | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
and low on additives, salt and sugar, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
unlike a lot of processed fast food. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Some of us prefer pizzas that way, and we're adults, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
we can choose to indulge in naughty food. But what about children? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
William Sitwell has a radical solution. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
This is a state of emergency. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
I believe we need to slap an 18 certificate on junk food. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:36 | |
So by the time you're old enough to fight in a war | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
or vote in an election, you're also old enough to choose what to eat. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
I want a ban on sugar-laden fat-packed food and drink | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
until adulthood. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
We protect our children from harm such as sex | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
and violence in movies and smoking. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
So why don't we do something about junk food? | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
We certainly need to - right now one in three ten-year-olds are fat, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
and that's unacceptable. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
Children need to be kept away from the colourful, convenient, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
sickly sweet, blood-clottingly salted junk food. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
It's a one-way ticket to obesity. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Obesity costs the NHS over £5 billion a year. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
We need to protect young people from the stuff that will give them | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, strokes. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
By 2020, more than 70% of UK adults | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
are expected to be either overweight or obese. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
We know junk food isn't what our kids should be eating | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
but the helpful health advice isn't getting the job done. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
We need legislation to hammer it home. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
I think that's a step too far. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
I mean, to me, that smacks of the nanny state. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Sometimes, you know, the state needs to nanny. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
I'm not a great advocate for banning things, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
but if you slap an 18 certificate it will make people really | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
think about the food they have to eat. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
But it will also make something instantly more attractive. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
If you're prohibited from something, you want it more. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
You know, you would try and drink alcohol, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
you would try and smoke and all the rest of it. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
If you put an 18 certificate on these things, it really raises | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
awareness about the fact that junk food is dangerous, is bad for you... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
I think we know that, though, don't we? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-We don't know. -I think we do know that. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
We know that smoking's bad for you, so we slap a certificate on that. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
We know that drinking is, so we also put an 18 certificate on that. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
The legislators may have seemed very harsh at the time | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
but look how effective that's been. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
Look what happened when they banned smoking from pubs. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
It's been really effective. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
I'm talking about trying to protect children from eating | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
this stuff that is ultimately going to kill them. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
What are you talking about? Ready meals? | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
You're talking about things full of sugar, full of salt etc? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
The way that I would... When I talk about slapping | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
an 18 certificate on junk food, I'm defining junk food as food | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
that has a disproportionate amount of fat, sugar and salt. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
You fill yourself up on those things. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
You then don't allow yourself the room or even the appetite | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
to have salads and other stuff that's healthy. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
But I would argue that you turn it on its head, in a way. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Isn't it the supermarkets' and the Government's responsibility, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
in a way, not to necessarily go 18, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
but actually to make good food affordable? | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
The state does too much now at the moment, anyway. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
It controls our very being too much already | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
and I think we have to be given the freedom, but we need education. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Education, for me, is the vital point to this argument, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
-but then, also, the parents. -Parents, as well. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
I do believe there's been a couple of generations | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
that have missed a beat here. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
There's enough stress on the education system | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
to get people to learn to read and write, OK? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
To then tell them you've got to learn their numeracy, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
their literacy and, by the way, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
you've got to give them free food, healthy food | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
and you've got to teach them how to garden and sow seeds | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
and then make their own wine... | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
Who's going to police this, by the way? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
My British Board Of Food Control will be policing this | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
very, very strictly. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-It is a full-time job. -How much is that going to cost? | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
It'll cost a lot less than the cost to the NHS... | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
-The problems we'll have in the future. -Exactly. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Right. Time to name and shame. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
I don't know whose... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
Whose guilty pleasure's that?! | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
I know, I know, I think I know. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
Pork scratchings, tinned peaches, crisp butty... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
Go on, then, Angela, do you think you know? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
-I think Michel is peaches... -Oh! | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
I think William loves a little pork scratching. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
I'm so sorry, Kate, if I've got this wrong, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
-but I really think you are Mrs Chip with gravy. -Mrs Chip! | 0:18:31 | 0:18:36 | |
I thought it was curry sauce, as well. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Well, it could be curry sauce, either will do, and it is me, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and I do hang my head in shame. I love it. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Did you get the rest right? That's the thing. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
Well, this is definitely mine, I love a crisp sandwich. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-You're right about me. -Am I? Is that you? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-Are you a pork scratching sort of guy? -I love pork scratchings. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
I love them when they've got loads of fat on them, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
and if there's a little hair, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:57 | |
so much the better. LAUGHTER | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Is that a certificate 18? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
-No, this is... ALL: -Ooooh! | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
These are exempt. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
And Michel? I mean, are they healthy? Is that lots of sugar? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
For me it's a guilty pleasure because, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
-tinned fruit, you know. -Yeah, yeah, sure. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
It goes against the grain. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
I'm not convinced it qualifies as a guilty pleasure, though. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-It's fruit! -It's pleasure! | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
There's one ingredient that takes star billing | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
in most of our guilty pleasures. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
The stuff we're constantly told clogs up our arteries | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
and raises our blood pressure - | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
fat. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
But what about how important it is | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
to the way our food tastes and feels? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Rachel Khoo is fighting fat's corner. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
Excuse me while I use the F word - fat. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
Silky-smooth ice cream. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
Rich Jersey butter. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Sumptuous, unctuous clotted cream on scones. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
Fat, like the ones these ladies are responsible for, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
has so long been the evil villain | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
it's hard not to feel guilty about it. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
There's increasing evidence that fat isn't that bad for you, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
even the saturated kind. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
Take full-fat milk. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Some of the fats, proteins and vitamins have been shown | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
to aid our metabolism, which can actually help keep the pounds off. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
Nutritionally, fats are vital to a balanced diet, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
and there's one food that perfectly demonstrates | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
why we find full fat so seductively satisfying. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
'For ice cream maker Caroline Spiby, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
'there's simply no substitute for the real thing - | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
'dairy ice cream.' | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Oh, wow. Smells good! | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
OK, where are we starting? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
-Right, first of all, this is our pasteuriser. -Yeah. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
So in here we've got the ice cream mix | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and we use full-fat milk, which is fresh from the cows. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Then we add double cream | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
because we're making a traditional ice cream | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and traditional dairy ice cream has to have at least 5% fat. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
Take note, fat fans, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
it's only dairy ice cream that has to contain real cream. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
Anything labelled simply "ice cream" can be made | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
almost entirely from vegetable fat. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
And, well, it's just not the same. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
By having full-fat products in the ice cream | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
you get the wonderful texture and the flavour. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
And because fats take longer to digest than carbohydrates, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
high-fat foods stay in the stomach longer | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
and delay the feeling of hunger. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Fat actually fills you up. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
It already looks really rich and creamy, the consistency. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
-And it's thick. -Yeah. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
'Fat gives food an appealing, glossy visual texture.' | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
OK, I'll try and not make a mess. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
'It enhances flavour...' | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Blender on. | 0:21:58 | 0:21:59 | |
'..and the way fat coats the tongue means flavour lingers on, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
'making full-fat food so delicious.' | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
What do you think about these low-fat options which often are a substitute | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
with a lot more sugar and additional flavouring? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Basically, they don't taste as good. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
You're taking out the fat, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
which gives it the flavour and the texture. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Why change it when it's so good? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
This is what I was looking for - | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
full fat, really thick, it's luscious. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Where's my spoon? I want to eat it now! | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Mmm. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
I can definitely eat this whole pot on my own. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
I'm not suggesting to eat mountains of fatty food - | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
fat is the most calorie-dense food there is. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
But low-fat? You can keep it. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
So, if you're going to have something naughty, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
why not indulge in a full-fat dessert every now and again? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
My personal favourite is a chocolaty salted caramel mousse. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
There simply isn't a fat-free alternative for this. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
One of my ultimate guilty pleasures is this chocolate mousse, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
layered with sweet, sticky, salted caramel sauce. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
This really is the dessert | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
that should bring a big smile to your face. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
And it reminds me so much of my childhood. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
A gooey caramel sauce like this always starts with sugar. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
Put 100 grams into a pan | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
with a couple of tablespoons of golden syrup and water. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
And we let it simmer away and bubble away | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
until it goes to that lovely golden caramel colour. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
The darker you let this caramel go, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
the more intense and even bitter the caramel will be, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
so it's very important to catch it at that exact moment. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
That's it. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
We've got that lovely golden brown colour, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
and we're ready to add the butter and the cream. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Take the pan off the heat and add 30 grams of butter. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
I always use unsalted butter for cooking. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Adding the salt later gives you more control over the flavour. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
But first, pour in 80ml of double cream. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
You've got to be careful, because it does tend to spit a bit. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Oh, my word! Yum! | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
And now for just a little sprinkling of sea salt. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Salted caramel. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:31 | |
Enriched with butter and cream. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
I mean, just saying those words brings a smile to my face. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
While the caramel is cooling, I can get on with the mousse, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
starting by separating eight eggs into two bowls. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
I always knew as a child when the chocolate mousse was being prepared, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
because I could smell the melting chocolate from upstairs in my room. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
And then the telltale whisking of the egg whites, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and then we knew we were in for a treat. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
Whisk the egg yolks into a mixture of cooled, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
good-quality chocolate that's been melted with butter. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
And this is just adding more richness to the dish. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:16 | |
There we go. That's it. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
The next step is to whisk the egg whites into stiff peaks. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
You can, of course, use an electric mixer, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
but I like doing it the old-fashioned way. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
By hand, the way Mum and Dad used to do it. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
And I think it makes you enjoy the dessert even more. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
You've earned it. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:34 | |
The egg whites are lovely and smooth. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
Silky smooth. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
Then add a third of the egg whites to the chocolate mixture. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
The reason why we're doing that is so that we can bring this thick | 0:25:46 | 0:25:52 | |
chocolate mixture to the same consistency as the egg white. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:58 | |
That's made this now much lighter. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Then we add the rest of this lovely meringue. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
You mustn't over-mix it, because if you do you're going to lose | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
all that lovely air in the meringue. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
There we go, that's it. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
Layer up the sweet, sticky, salted caramel | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
with the rich, chocolaty mousse and top with cream. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Pure indulgence. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
Right, so now we need to chill these chocolate mousses, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
preferably for about a couple of hours. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
But you can actually make them the day before | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
and just leave them in the fridge. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
-Oh, have I got a surprise for you. -Magnificent. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-Look at those. -These are luxury. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Chocolate mousse with salted caramel. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
-Thank you. -And... | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
Fernando de Castilla Antique Pedro Ximenez, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
the ultimate in indulgence, guys. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
So this is a sweet sherry, Pedro Ximenez is the grape. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
It's aged for about 30 years, so it's really complex, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
it's got loads of figs, liquorice, molasses, caramel... | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
I mean, this, if you've got a sweet tooth, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
-this is a great match for chocolate. -Thank you. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
First you've got to dive into the chocolate. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
And I want you to dig deep | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
because you've got the layers of the salted caramel inside. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
So you've got the mousse, the caramel and the cream. OK. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Mmm. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
Oh, my God, it's delicious. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
The caramel, oh, wow. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
The saltiness in the caramel is delicious. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
It'll work great with this. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
This is... This is... Phew! | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
This would definitely have that 18 sticker on it. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
Yeah, that's for sure. You don't need much of that, though. My word. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
We're lucky to have so much wonderful food available to us, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
and it's here to be enjoyed. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Cooking at home or eating out can be a healthy experience, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
or an indulgent one. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Balance the two and you are onto a winner. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
'Next time on Food & Drink... | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
'top chef Monica Galetti proves healthy doesn't mean boring...' | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Where does the butter come into this? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
There's no butter in this recipe. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
But you will like it. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
'..Kate makes some unusual drinks choices...' | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Here's the pretty pink. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:08 | |
It suits you really well, actually. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
'..and I'm making a fantastic tuna tartare.' | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 |