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I'm Si King, and we're The Hairy Bikers.

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Both: Welcome to kitchen garden live!

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Welcome to Kitchen Garden Live with The Hairy Bikers from the RHS

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Today's the first day that the show is open

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We're back on our very own edible garden set for some more

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Coming up today, Kingy's hero, soulful singing sensation,

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Gregory Porter joins us and he can help us with the cooking too ?

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because he was a chef before he became a musician.

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I go behind the scenes of a stunning show garden,

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this one was designed with children in mind,

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And Dave and I will cook up something delicious

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Britain's youngest Michelin-starred chef, Tommy Banks, shows us

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round his very impressive kitchen garden up in North Yorkshire

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and we'll be making a delicious dish with Tommy's inspiration.

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I've met another of the foodie suppliers exhibiting at the show.

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Peter grows pretty much every culinary herb under the sun and he's

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Plus two fellow bearded food fans are here to show us how to make

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the finest Italian pizza in our pizza oven with bags of basil

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and some of this gorgeous fresh veg from our planters.

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But before we do anything else, we have to introduce our special

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guest today, because if Kingy doesn't chat to him soon,

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Mr Gregory Porter! Thank you so much. We're going to have a little

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bit of a longer chat later. I am in the presence of someone wonderful.

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Si was 50 not long ago, and for his birthday, he flew out to France to

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see you with his family. He could only get tickets at the back. So the

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Viking at the back shouting Gregory was him. Let's listen to some tunes.

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MUSIC PLAYS This is what this dude does. Does

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that not move your soul? Jazz is not normally a style that is popular,

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but the album you have brought out is the most downloaded jazz album

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ever. That must feel great after a lifetime of trying to get there. It

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was pretty amazing. The thing I am proud about most is that these are

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things I want to say. I want to say there will be no love dying here for

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me, I want to say, don't lose your steam, these things that inspire

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people. If you sell a couple of million records by saying something

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positive, that feels good. You clock from the heart as well as singing

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from the heart, don't you? Absolutely. -- you cook.

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I had 120 people came, I went to the store, got the food, we got it done.

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120 people. Now, it's time to find out more about

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Neil Whichelow is the man in charge and he's here

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to tell us about this fascinating, sustainable ecosystem.

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Is this a greenhouse or an aquarium? The fish feed the plants, the plans

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clean the water for the fish, so we recycle the nutrients and we don't

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waste anything. So the fish fertilise the plants naturally and

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the plants prosper. It uses so little water to produce the plants?

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Much less. Other than evaporation and transpiration, there is no loss.

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Are there particular plants that you can grow with aquaponics? Some of

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them need different amounts of water for the full amount of time, so you

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can balance it. What fish are these? These are tilapia. You can do

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ornamental or edible fish. If you eat your crop, you can eat your fish

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afterwards? You can. It's a match made in heaven. The more

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biodiversity, the better it is. Would you like to see everyone have

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a knack upon it -- an aquaponics garden? The environment has to be

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controlled. We believe in building houses with aquaponics systems built

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throughout the house. We could build a sustainable future through

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crowdfunding, and with an open sauce design. Thank you for joining us.

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Thank you, Neil - we'll see you at the tasting table in a bit.

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But first - every day this week we're giving you a sneak peek around

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some of the phenomenal show gardens here at the Flower Show,

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which, like our garden, celebrate growing your own at home.

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Today's garden is pretty special - the interactive, sensory garden has

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been designed for autistic children and through the use of edible plants

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I was lucky and got a personal tour with its creator, Adam White.

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I got a personal tour with the Creator, Adam White. And the garden

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has just won best in show. Yes! This is impressive. It's huge! 500

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square metres. What edible plants do you have? Apples, pears, whilst

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robberies, walnuts, hazelnuts... What was your inspiration? We have

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been working with autism and other disabilities, and we want them to

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put their computers down and get outside. When we grew up, we did

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those things. We have worked with a clinical psychologist and garden has

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a range of things with different types of stimulation. My daughter

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suffers from anxiety, but when she is here, it seems to disappear. She

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sat here and relaxed. I'm nice and relaxed. She loves this garden. The

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thing about feeling it in your hands, and tossing it in the air, it

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is designed to get the feeling is engaged. As soon as I walked into

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the garden, there is the sound of running water, there are smells. The

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kids can make little boats out of leaves and float them down the

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stream and experience the feeling of being in a woodland. Lets go and

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have another look. Let me show you our mushroom cave.

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It goes on and on under the garden. Do not go out and forage for

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mushrooms, because you will only ever get it wrong ones. These are

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beautiful. Look at how fleshy they are. Tell me this is not going to

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waste - what happens? It will be taken apart and reimagined at a

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centre at Keele University. Thank you so much for the tour. You're

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welcome. Thanks for these. Cheers! Just stunning, and Adam is here now

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to see what we're going to rustle up with some of the fabulous fungi,

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grown in that secret mushroom cave. So along with a mushroom dish,

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we thought we'd show you that Aquaponics can be even more

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sustainable, as you can actually eat It is a hands in the bowl dish. It

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is. Wheels have mushrooms from the cave. We will stop that, with

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peppers, breadcrumbs and all sorts of lovely flavours. It is a really

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good dish, all done on the barbecue. -- we will stuff that. Take one

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tilapia, it's sustainable and there's loads of them. But these in

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the bowl. Gregory, shall we tear mushrooms together? That's not fair!

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I have never done mushroom tearing. We're in a different gear now. It is

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not frantic. I have put in some oyster there as well. Put in some

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sun-dried tomatoes. We will add hazelnuts. And then I go to chop

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some garlic. I have basil and parsley - just about that much of

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each. Just tell it in the bowl. Gregory, what, for you, if you could

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only eat one thing, what would you find really hard to live without?

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Seafood. I love beautiful seafood. Salmon or any whitefish. Halibut,

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cod, I love all of it. Touring keeps you on the road for 300 days a year.

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That's true. Red onion. How do you amuse yourself on the road for so

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long? It is all really just an eating tour. Wherever I am, I taste

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the amazing food, such as in South Africa and Portugal. It always feels

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like someone's grandma is cooking that food. It is soulful. A mate of

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mine was at your gig the other night, and you were telling a story

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about the Yorkshire pudding. I ordered Yorkshire pudding for

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dessert. They asked if I wanted sauce with it, and I said yes. So,

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it was basically bread and gravy. But Americans, we're not too hip on

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that! Bits of lemon zest, all for flavour. My first job that was

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loosely related with food was pretty uninspiring. I was working in a

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lemonade factory in Croydon. But yours wasn't too great either, was

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it? I had several bad food beginnings. Which one would you be

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talking about? I think the dog food factory is a pretty good one. It

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beats my laminate factory. How could somebody so cool work in a dog food

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factory? It is wrong. Or a lemonade factory. You used to work in your

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brother's restaurant. My speciality was soup. Was it black bean and

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turkey soup? They loved that. Cream of carry, chicken was another. Say

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pine nuts for me. We have mushrooms, feta cheese, a little chilli, olive

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oil, garlic, and fundamentally, if I have missed anything out, I am

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really sorry. That is what we are stuffing the peppers with. It just

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goes in, and then we literally treat the barbecue as a heat sauce, simple

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as that. We put it on the barbecue like this. All the recipes are on

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the website if you want to cook them. We will put this in a tray in

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the oven with the fish on top and take a handful of this, and stuff it

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in the fish. Take the lemon and halve it. We make

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kind of like a little boat of culinary love. It's that old French

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technique, papillotte. Put it on the fire. But it across the top. The

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barbecue has quite intense heat, quite direct, so it will caramelised

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the outside of the peppers and the outside of the fish. It infuses all

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those flavours. Brilliant. Let's clear down. What's going on?

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Gregory, you've just recorded an albumen London? I did, I recorded it

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with a wonderful orchestral. The music of Nat King Cole, it takes me

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back to my childhood. It got me into thinking about music as a career. I

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used to sing in church, my mother always encouraged me to sing, but

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the music of Nat King Cole encouraged me and stuck with me so I

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had to do that record. It's the music of Nat King Cole. It's

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wonderful, isn't it? Mona Lisa, and I'm off.

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# Mona Lisa... APPLAUSE We can't give you a cooking time

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because they are all different! Get the fish outwith the fish slice...

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I've lost mine. Spoon on the lovely vegetables. Adam's lovely mushrooms.

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The problem with cooking on a barbecue and then putting your hands

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in its really hot! But you get juice on your fingers and you can set it

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off! The lemon. Gregory, get stuck in. What does that mean? Eat! It's a

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Geordie colloquialism. Just get stuck in! Watch yourself! Look at

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that. That fish is beautiful. That's gorgeous, man. Yesterday...

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Yesterday a whole host of famous faces descended

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on Hampton Court Palace to celebrate the launch of the flower show,

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so we cornered them with our cameras and found out

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about their experiences growing their own.

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Alex Jones is an expert with a cucumber! Who would have thought. I

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have grown my own produce. I do cucumbers. I don't know why. I found

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the seeds and planted them and they grew massive. They didn't taste very

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nice, but it was a cucumber. I used it off and get tips about gardening

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from the Blue Peter Gardiner, Chris. I thought I would start with a basil

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plants like a lot of people, but it didn't last week. In the last few

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years I started growing vegetables because my children eat me out of

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house and home. For some reason tomatoes grow really well in our

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garden, so we have an abundance. I normally and them off to the

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neighbours, but recently they have asked me... What's that dish called?

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There is a particular parsley dish with lamb and tomato, it's gorgeous.

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I want that in fact! That sounds epic.

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Right, now it's time to meet another of the exhibitors at the show

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who is a true expert in their foodie field.

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Peter SIkora is a herb hero who started on a small

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and now has his own specialist culinary herb nursery.

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I popped along to his stall earlier in the week to say hello.

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I've never seen so many herbs in one place. I think we have 180 varieties

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at the show this year. Have you always grown them? I used to be an

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administrator at new Scotland Yard. I have an allotment close to where I

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live in south London and I love growing my own vegetables. I went to

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open up a nursery. Someone advised me to focus on a particular variety

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and I chose herbs. The business came from that. Let's have a look. How

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easy is it to grow herbs? It's relatively easy. Coriander grows

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relatively quickly. You can cut off the flour heads to let the plant

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last longer. Our season runs from March to September so annual herbs

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have roughly that season. Perennial herbs can go all year long.

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Rosemary, sage, oregano, thyme, they are evergreen perennials and you can

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pick them all year round. Which ones are your pride and joy? French

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tarragon. It's really popular. You can't grow it from seed, just

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cuttings. That's for your Benes source, isn't it? -- your bearnaise

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source. This is one of my favourite varieties, it's Thai basil with a

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really strong aniseed waiver. The lime Basil has a touch of lime. It's

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really good with pulses, beans, chicken and fish. Cinnamon basil?!

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This is a show stopper, one of my favourites. It's Herb-tastic. We

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have two fellas in the kitchen who would love to get hold of your

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basil. Good week steal a bit? Of course. I will be so popular when I

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get back. -- could we steal. He's left his stall to come and see

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what we do with his herby delights. This time it's out of our hands,

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and into the hands of two fellow bearded cooks -

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Matteo and Salvatore Aloe. These Italian brothers

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are championing the humble pizza and are the talk of the town not

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only in Italy but now This is a masterclass in the secrets

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of truly great pizza. It's all about the dough. We only use the mother

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dough to get the best out of the pizza. Let's put these in the oven.

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I will show you how to stretch the pizza. What's in the mother dough,

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Matteo? This is the son of the mother. Type one flour, soda water.

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It's a sourdough pizza? We have the bacteria that permits for 24 hours

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at room temperature and makes the pizza very digestible. -- ferments

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for 24 hours. Pizza is my ideal meal, but I do get blown up with it.

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With the fermentation process, it can lower the time. 24 hours,

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sourdough pizza, that's the key to having a digestible though. Do you

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like pizza, Gregory? I love it. Everyone loves pizza. An Italian

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word that isn't translated. We're not being anti-social, we are just

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watching the oven with these two fantastic pizzas. The more we make,

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the more people get some. We will make a red and white pizza, what's

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the difference? I like to mix the fiordilatte cheese, and then I keep

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the tomato base more simple. A tomato base pizza with Margarita and

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basil on top. This is Peter's wonderful basil. So the red base has

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tomato. What wouldn't you put on that? Chuck cold meats, for example.

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I wouldn't put them on the red base. We have the pak choi here. Can you

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wash that for me? Certainly can. No source? Just a white base. We also

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used the white space for things like Parma ham. When they are ready with

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a pizza, we can put this on. It's nice to know that you put the

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toppings on afterwards, when the pizza is cooked. They look nice,

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straight from the garden. How epic are they? Lush. Keep an eye on the

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pak choi. No worries. Four pizzas in, people! CHEERING

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Let's make some pizzas, Gregory. Have you done it before? I have. I

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make my own dough. I thought I was being lazy by letting it just

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ferment for a few hours, but he says to let it go for 24 hours. Not the

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edge. Something we learned with bread, the longer you leave it to

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prove, the tastier the bread. You told me to put it on your hand and

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let the weight of the dough take itself. The pak choi is ready. Take

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that like that. Simon, what did you do with this pizza? It was around

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before! It was around when it went in, it's now not round. Matteo is

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always like that. It's my first time! The white pizza is this

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cheese. I've got to say, I think I'm doing pretty well here. Mr Porter

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and Mr Myers... You can't do anything wrong. Yours is way better.

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You can make a calzone now. I like mine a little misshapen. It's very

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rustic. When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amore

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this is the lemon basil. What I love about your restaurant is, when the

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dough has run outcome you stop serving pizza. Of course, we make it

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everyday, so if we don't have the dough, we can't serve. We don't have

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frozen bases. It takes 24 hours to make it. I want to point out, that's

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the one I put in. That's smoked ricotta going on. This

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is going to be a lesson, Gregory. I'm cleaning it up a little bit. It

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needs rescuing, not cleaning up! Save me! It's misshapen on purpose.

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Matteo and Salvatore... We will leave Salvatore and Si to make the

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pizzas. Let's go. Si King, your throne awaits. Let's get in. Pak

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choi looks quite beautiful. That's excellent. Peter, your basil. I

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can't stand it any longer, you are salivating. Here, have a piece of

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pizza. They are amazing. Superb. Wow.

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You have just confirmed why pizza would be my last supper!

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If you fancy having a go at Matteo's or any of our

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Kitchen Garden recipes, head to the website bbc.co.uk/food.

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You have got a bit of string going on! That is the real deal! Let's

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talk about your new album. When does it come out? October. Late October,

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November. It will be ready for that Christmas purchase. You are on tour

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at the minute with the last album? Yes, and I do music from my other

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records. At home, do you grow your own food? I have tomatoes, yes. I

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live in the breadbasket of the world, but in central California,

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where I live, there are lots of beautiful things grow. I have

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tomatoes, herbs, greens. Soul food. It grows easy. I have a big garden.

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Not so much of it is edible because I am not there so much to maintain

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it. That is Gregory Porter saying he has a garden full of weeds! It is

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full of trees and Roses. I had nasturtiums. At first I didn't know

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I could eat them. I told my son, and he is eating them. I said you can't

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eat just one or two mac. It is amazing to have you here. Thank you

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very much, because you make a lot of people very happy. Thank you, I

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appreciate it. Now, more and more chefs

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are growing their own produce sustainable and they can

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design their menus around what's looking good

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in their gardens. Yesterday, Raymond Blanc showed

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us his "potager" and today it's the turn of Britain's youngest

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Michelin-starred chef. Not only is he a great cook but he's

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got green fingers too. This is the garden, central to

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everything we do. All the cooking is inspired by what we can grow. At

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first, it was classical foot, but that felt fraudulent. As a chef, you

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look to your roots, and mine are in farming. My dad runs the garden, and

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I run the kitchen. I want certain things, and he wants to do things a

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certain way, but he has a wealth of experience, so I let him take over

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the growing in the garden. We don't have a boss. You are the boss of the

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garden. He says he is not, but I think he is. My wife is the boss.

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You ask her, she will tell you! This chef wants us to grow something, so

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we grow it. Both sides come together. These oyster leaves, I am

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really passionate about these, because I have an oyster allergy.

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They have an amazing flavour that is really like the seaside. As someone

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who can't eat oysters, it is cool. These work well with fish dishes,

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but also beef. They are not as hard to grow as people think. We put them

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in a whole load of muck, literally. We are serving some rhubarb for next

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year. I think it is important for the chefs for it to be a whole

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circle, whether it is selling seed harvesting, it is fun as much as

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anything. To come out and plan stuff, see how stuff is going,

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nothing better for me. I don't think I am even a natural cook, but I am

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definitely not a natural Gardener. Making it up as you go along usually

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works well. There was no better way than to loan by mistakes. This is

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lemon verbena - so fragrant. We try to find ways of making up food light

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and fragrant other than using lemon juice, and this is great. It is

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great in desserts, great with fish. Great with cocktails at this time of

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year. It is the taste of summer. They are special, because you can

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take them from the garden into the kitchen. They are still alive. If

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you pick broad beans and eat them raw, it is delicious. We are making

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these beautiful tarts, a rich pastry case. Broad beans are pretty

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special, so, Si and Dave, I can't wait to see what you will do with

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them. I have to say, Tommy, your broad beans have got nothing on

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Alice. Look at these beauties. What will we do with these? We have

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picked a load, we have blanched them, and basically, I will treat

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the broad beans as the star of the dish to go with this amazing lamb.

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Gregory, could you slice finely two close of garlic. I will put the

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onions on to sweat. Don't be afraid of using a frying pan on your

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barbecue. Definitely not. I have a quick marinade to do these lamb

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steaks in. I will add a little oil to the bowl. We have some

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pomegranate molasses. It is readily available in supermarkets. Try and

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have a go of that, because it is a really lovely, deeply citrus

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flavour. A little sherry vinegar. Some cumin. Keep blowing, dude!

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Cheers, Gregory. Sweat that down but don't burn it. Then we will chop

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some fresh mint into it. This is such a quick, flavoursome little

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marinade. Brilliant. The tomatoes going at the end and they don't have

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to be cooked much. Do you want them sliced? Cut them in half, if you

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like. Look at this, I have a lovely sizzle on here. Nice. Give it a

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mixed with the tongs, because I cannot find this book. For the first

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time, I have grown my own broad beans, and I was beside myself. In

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Italy, we used to have them on the table with an aperitif. You would

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pod them and eat them. At this point, you need to get your hands

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in, as long as they are clean, and massage all those lovely flavours

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into the meat. It will go in. The vinegar opens up the pores of the

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meat, and you're able to push those flavours through. Have you got it?

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Yes! I have got cumin and cinnamon. Never has a broad bean been so

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well-dressed! He just eats everything, Gregory! Beans cook

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gently in the stock. The cumin, the cinnamon - it is just such a

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wonderful summer dish. Between videos, we make sure our hands are

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immaculately clean and washed. Kind of! Tomato, perfect. Broad beans...

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There we go. I will turn this. How is mine doing? Lovely. Nearly cajun,

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Si. They will never notice! The beans are cooking perfectly, as you

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can see. Lovely. Look at that. Gregory, could you do me a favour?

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See the play? Thank you. I put my tomatoes in, and some lemon zest.

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Those are beautifully cooked. When you cooking meat on the barbecue, we

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have cooked these for about three minutes per side, and you need to

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let them rest for six minutes. It is the total amount of time they need

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to rest is the total amount of cooking time. Have we got that? Was

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it clear? Yes! Am I confusing you yet? No. I am not trying hard

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enough. We both have wives from the East - mine from Romania, yours from

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Russia. Do you eat Russian food? Yes, I make a wonderful borscht. I

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make it better than my wife. Nobody makes anything better than their

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wife! The national dish of Romania is stuffed cabbage leaves, and

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direct in mine are better. He didn't mean it! I will find out she has

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been watching when I get the phone call. The liberal with the parsley.

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Has Dave left some? He has. This is the molasses? Yes, put your finger

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in and have a tiny taste. Wow! Really lovely. It's really good. It

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really is. The tomatoes are yielding a little bit. Now we put the

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pomegranate molasses in. Stir that through. What is great about the

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pomegranate molasses is that it just lifts all those top notes of the

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flavours, and it's so good, the acidity. He's gone all musical on

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us! I am in the presence of musical greatness, dude! If you could pick

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your favourite track that you have recorded and I know this is an

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impossible question, but I will ask anyway - what is your favourite

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track that you love singing time after Time? No Love Dying. It is

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simple and straightforward. There is some doubt about this love, but I

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won't let it be. APPLAUSE

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Take him to the pub. We need love. I have scattered the beans about

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randomly. That is what food is about, the love. It is about love,

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care and application. How can you eat food without love? Not possible,

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not in my book. I think we have rested sufficiently. Enough for TV,

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at least! Gregory, you had better stand here. Happy 4th of July! It

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ain't Turkey and Jell-o, but it is our 4th of July for you. This is

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wonder. Look at that, that's beautiful. Let me get a little. I

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love a little lamb, I don't care what anyone says. That is tender.

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Try the beans. He'll get upset, dry them. I love me broad beans. Your

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potager at home is amazing. Is beautiful.

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It is time now to find out whether our lovely audience have any

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questions on food, gardening or just our sartorial elegance. I made us a

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couple of microphone things to brighten things up, out of two cups.

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It is like Blue Peter all over again. Where is Caroline? I live in

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a flat in London, North facing, and how should I grow on my balcony?

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This is for Peter. Where is he? It is North facing, so what herbs can

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she grow? Green, leafy herbs such as sorrel and parsley. You won't get

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much sunshine, so something that can deal with a bit of shade. Parsley,

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sorrel, stuff like that. Definitely not Basil. If you want to grow

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basil, move! And next, D. We moved to France a few years ago when we

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grow everything, but we cannot grow artichoke, and I don't know where to

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start. I live in France. I use the artichoke hearts, Blanche them down,

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so take them with broad beans, white wine, and have that with fish. Where

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is Diane? That is convenient! As a fellow Geordie, from South Shields,

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I wondered if you could recommend any herbs to go with traditional

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North East dishes such as the great Northeast sausage? There is one. I

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will get back to you... Where just about to run out of time. We do it

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every time! That's it - we're out of time

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on today's Kitchen Garden Live. Thanks to our fantastic guests,

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Gregory Porter, Neil, Adam, Matteo, We will see you tomorrow, with Jimmy

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Osmond live. Goodbye for now! MUSIC: Hoppipolla

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