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I'm Lorraine Pascale.

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I'm always hearing from people who tell me

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they would love to be better cooks but they don't know what to start.

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So, I want to help.

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I've never cut up a chilli at all in my life before.

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-Have you made a dressing for a salad before?

-No.

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I didn't start cooking until my 30s,

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so, I wanted to prove that with some easy tips...

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Lots of flavour, that's what it's all about.

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'..and a few simple recipes.'

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Mmm.

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'Even if you haven't cooked before,'

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it's never too late to learn.

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-That's really good!

-You sound surprised.

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I'm going to teach six unconfident cooks

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how to pull off a special meal for family and friends.

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-Hello.

-Hello, ladies!

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Lorraine's not cooking tonight. I am.

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LAUGHTER No!

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I'll be creating dishes that anyone can cook -

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from simple family suppers to unbelievably easy party pieces.

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-All it takes is a bit of enthusiasm...

-Mm, that is yummy.

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..and some confidence.

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-Well done, Mummy.

-Thank you, darling.

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-See, we're cooking.

-Yeah...

-This is cooking.

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I'm on my way to Surrey to meet Bryony Crutcher,

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a 26-year-old primary school teacher.

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Like many 20-somethings, Bryony's never learned to cook.

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And the few times she's tried,

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she's had to cheat and pass shop-bought meals off as her own.

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Hi, Lorraine, I really need your help. I am dreadful at cooking.

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I don't even know where to start, so, please give me a helping hand.

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So, how's your cooking?

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Pretty bad. Like, terrible bad.

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Well, Bryony is not a very confident cook.

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I'm hesitant to say, but that she probably gets that from me.

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Who cooked for you, when you were living at home?

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My dad did all the cooking when we were growing up,

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but unfortunately, he's not with us any more,

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so it was then left to me and my mum.

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But I never really learnt off him

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and I can't learn off my mum because she's just as bad.

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And so we have to try and make do

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with perhaps a bought-in meal.

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And then pass it off as my own, pop it in my own dishes,

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sprinkle a bit of parsley on top.

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So, why do you want to learn to cook now?

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My best friend Katie's just got engaged,

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and she's asked me to do her a hen-do dinner party

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which is like the worst thing she could possibly ask me to do.

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So, I really need your help to help me cook something

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maybe quite girlie and feminine for a hen-do dinner party.

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We've got some work to do.

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Yeah, you've got your work cut out for you.

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Having never cooked from scratch before,

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Bryony now wants to be able to do more than sprinkle

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a bit of parsley on a ready meal.

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But before we get started,

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I want to find out the real limits of what Bryony can do.

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I'm going to go with poached egg, that's my favourite and...

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-Your speciality?

-It's my speciality.

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Oh, and I just broke that one, so that's already off to a bad start!

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So, poached egg on toast.

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-Aren't you lucky?

-I am!

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Going to pop the egg in. Oh, no, I knew this wouldn't work.

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Right, I think that is done.

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Bryony, you're looking a little bit stressed.

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-You were quite calm earlier.

-Well, because now is the...

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Oh, no! I just pierced it with a fork.

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OK, tell you what, I might use this.

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-Bryony, that's a tea strainer!

-Yeah, but it will, oh...

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It's going to do the job, isn't it? Oh. Oh.

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BRYONY LAUGHS

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This is the thing I've chosen to say that I can cook!

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SHE GIGGLES

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And I'm going to go to town and put bit of salt on it.

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-Thank you.

-So, here's your poached egg.

-I think I'll try it over here.

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-The toast isn't bad.

-No.

-You did season the egg.

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I did put some salt on, yeah.

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Oh, no. I'm hoping the flavour's there.

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Mmph...

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Oh, no!

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-It looks home-made.

-It does look home-made, very rustic.

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Give it to the dog, come on.

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The dog doesn't even want it!

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So, Bryony's just cooked me a poached egg.

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It wasn't good at all. The toast was only cooked on one side,

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the yolk wasn't nice and runny.

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And what was even more interesting was the stress level.

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She got really panicked and that is just cooking a poached egg!

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We've got a lot of work to do to get her calm

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to cook a meal for a whole hen party.

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I'm thinking a buffet menu is the way forward for Bryony.

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Canape recipes can be quite a challenge

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because you've got to pack lots of flavour into very small bites.

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So, I've chosen a combination of dishes that might be petite,

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but are guaranteed to leave a lasting impression.

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Some bite-size Asian-inspired salads.

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My fancy feta and pomegranate bites.

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A posh take on the humble sausage roll.

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And to finish off the evening,

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some truly divine sweet treats.

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My first task is to get Bryony understanding flavours.

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So, I've chosen two canapes

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that are packed full of bold, fresh ingredients.

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Cucumber bites and larb gai, or Thai chicken lettuce cups.

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We've got all the different balance of flavours here.

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We've got the sweet, the salty, the sour and the heat

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and it's just about getting that perfect balance

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that's right for you.

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Right girls, we've recovered from the poached egg,

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so I've got two dishes to make today

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-and I'm going to get started with you.

-WHAT?

-OK.

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Mum, Carrie, has also never learnt to cook,

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so I'm drafting her in to help, too!

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Starting off with this simple, no-cook canape -

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feta and cucumber bites with pomegranate.

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-We need to scoop out the middle.

-Just to make a cup of it.

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-Yes, make a cup.

-Don't go right through.

-OK.

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-And with you, we're going to make these lettuce cups.

-OK.

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-They're called larb gai and it's a Thai dish.

-Mm-hm.

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'We're mincing chicken breasts here.'

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-And we need a pan with a bit of oil in.

-OK.

-Over a fairly high heat.

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What we want to do is fry this chicken off.

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Oopsie.

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And we want to squidge it down, so it's like in a single layer.

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-Keep going with all of it, yeah?

-Yeah, all of it in.

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So, how am I going to know it's done?

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-You'll know it's done cos it'll go from pink to white.

-OK, right.

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-See, that bit's going white already?

-Yeah, all of it like that?

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-All of it like that. But then, let it sit for a while, as well.

-OK.

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-Cos the temptation is to keep stirring.

-Yeah.

-Stir, stir, stir.

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Salt and pepper in there for seasoning.

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-I'm going to help your mum.

-All right.

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-Have you used a feta before?

-No.

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Pop that in there.

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We're going to mash it up and add some dill to it.

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'Using super fresh herbs like dill

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'is a great way to balance the salty feta.'

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-Bryony?

-Yeah.

-Can you just leave that for a second.

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Taste this feta, it's a very salty cheese.

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But we're looking to see if you can taste the dill yet.

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Taste the dill.

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-Tastes of cheese, doesn't it?

-Mm, I think more can go in.

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-How are you two doing?

-Beautifully, we put it all in.

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-You went for it.

-Yeah.

-Mm, we went for it.

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'Fruit and cheese is a classic combination.

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'These red pomegranate seeds are perfect.'

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So, talk to me about Katie.

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Katie, she's my best friend since growing up,

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since we were babies and we've just been friends for life.

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We went to the same primary school together,

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we've lived together, worked together and now,

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she's about to get married

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and I'm going to try and do her hen-do dinner party.

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She's really like a second daughter to me.

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-Really, that's lovely.

-She's a lovely girl.

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I'm very, very fond of Katie.

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I think you can do it a little bit more neatly.

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No, don't squish! We want a mound.

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Right, Bryony, let's leave Mum to do her bits and pieces.

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-Back to Bryony's larb gai.

-How should I chop this?

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-Do you know how to chop ginger?

-No.

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-Do you want to have a go?

-Yeah.

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We need about that much,

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and then you just need to peel off the skin,

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so you can use a peeler or a knife.

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'Using fresh ginger will bring a gentle sweet heat.'

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'The salad is an assembly job from here,

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'bringing together all of the ingredients with the chicken.'

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-First, put the spring onions in.

-OK.

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I was explaining to Bryony

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how I like to use the white and the green bit.

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But not too much, cos the darker green bit's quite bitter.

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-Right.

-Right, simple, simple, simple.

-Yes.

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And cucumber.

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-The cucumber adds a really nice freshness to this.

-Right.

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'For some heat in goes the ginger and the chilli.

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'Chicken has a mild taste,

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'so is always happy in the company of strong flavours like these.'

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Just a tiny bit at first, cos you can always add,

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but you can't take away.

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OK.

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This is something I have never done, taste as I go along.

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We just bung it in and go on to the next thing.

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I want you to make it taste the way you want it to taste.

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-You make it how you want it to taste.

-A bit more cucumber in,

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but I don't think it needs any more heat stuff.

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'Fish sauce adds a salty kick to the salad.'

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In as well.

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-A little pinch of sugar.

-Oh, sugar?

-Yeah. For some sweetness.

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Everything's quite sharp, isn't it? Mm.

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-I'm going to present you with your larb gai.

-Larb gai.

-Larb gai there.

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-Thank you very much.

-And I've got mine.

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-Mm, mm, mm, that is yummy.

-Mm.

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-Mm, this is good.

-What do you think of the flavours?

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Mm, flavours are really good, I really like it.

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-These look lovely.

-Mm.

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-That's nice. I'm going to have another one.

-They're good.

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I reckon I could make this.

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-I reckon I could do this.

-I could do this.

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-You did do it, Mum.

-You did do it!

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When I was making the larb gai, the Thai salad, with them,

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we were adding bits and building

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and really getting the flavours nice and fresh.

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I think they really started to see

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that there's more to food than just eating because you have to.

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Not every canape needs to be savoury.

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I've come up with a sweet version

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that is a perfect bite-size treat for any dinner party.

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These are a twist on the traditional fruit-filled, puff pastry version.

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My Napoleons are bite-size layers of chocolate and cream.

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Spread the melted chocolate thinly,

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then pop into the fridge to harden slightly.

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Cut into rectangles,

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then return to the fridge until completely firm.

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Now for the cream filling.

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This is basically like a thick custard

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with milk, egg yolks, sugar, flour and vanilla.

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Mix the sugar and egg yolk together,

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then add flour to thicken.

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The seeds of a vanilla pod add extra flavour.

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Pour half of the hot milk onto the egg yolk mixture.

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Do it bit by bit though, to prevent the egg from scrambling.

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Pour it back into the pan with the rest of the milk

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and whisk until it's the consistency of thick custard.

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Now to pipe.

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Try not to overfill the bag

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and use the back of a knife to work out any air bubbles.

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A lot of people think piping is just for the professionals,

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but it's actually quite simple.

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The secret is to hold the bag completely upright

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and keep the pressure constant by twisting the top.

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What better proof that great flavours can come in small packages?

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'My next recipe for Bryony is chorizo and lemon grass scrolls.

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'This is the perfect make-ahead food

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'and has a clever short cut

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'that I think the cheat in her is going to love.'

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Have you made scrolls before,

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or anything like that, with puff pastry?

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-No.

-No, and do you like chorizo?

-Love it.

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'If there's one ready-made ingredient to have,

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'it's puff pastry.'

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So, flour down first.

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'It's so versatile and can be used in sweet and savoury dishes.'

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And whilst that's going on, Carrie, lemon grass,

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-have you used lemon grass before?

-No, never.

-OK.

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-Is this lemon grass?

-This is lemon grass.

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It's got a wonderful citrus taste and it's quite woody.

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But in the centre, in the very centre,

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it's nice and soft and that's what you want.

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-And then chop that up really fine as well. Why don't you do that one?

-OK.

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-And whilst your mum's doing that, we can just lay the chorizo over.

-OK.

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I use chorizo a lot cos it's just so super tasty and spicy.

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-All the way across?

-All the way across.

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'Using chorizo and lemon grass changes what could be

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'an everyday sausage roll into something really special.'

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And then we just roll.

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'And a simple scroll is all it takes to get a pretty swirl effect.'

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-Now, this has got to go in the fridge to firm up...

-Right.

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..for about half an hour.

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Aren't they pretty?

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'Egg wash will give the scrolls that shiny golden brown finish.'

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'20 minutes in the oven is all it takes.'

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They are ready to go.

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-Nice and crisp, golden brown and crunchy.

-Mm.

-Oh.

-Smells great.

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And yeah, for your friend, the one that's vegetarian,

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get some vegetarian cheese

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or sun-dried tomatoes or pesto or whatever.

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-Shall we?

-Yeah.

-Oh, yes.

-Watch your fingers.

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They're hot.

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-Mm.

-Yummy.

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-Mm, tasty.

-Mm.

-Perfect.

-What do you think?

-Spot-on.

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-I think they taste brilliant.

-And they're so simple.

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Bryony's starting to realise cooking can be a lot easier

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than she thinks, so now it's time to get creative.

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We're on our way to a top London cocktail club to meet mixologist JJ.

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-Hi, JJ.

-Hi, how are you guys?

-Meet each other.

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-Good, nice to meet you.

-Welcome.

-Thanks.

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'I'm getting Bryony to play around with even more flavours

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'by making a unique cocktail that she can serve at the

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'hen party for best friend, Katie.'

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-And we've been learning about flavours.

-We have.

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What's her favourite flavour? Do you know?

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Um, she's got quite a sweet tooth,

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so she likes most like fruity things.

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Start pulling out ingredients, and JJ,

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I hope you can help us make something special.

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-I'll do my best.

-Help me not get it too wrong here.

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OK, so what would you like to start with?

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OK, let's go with a bit of lime

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to start with and a bit of coconut water.

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Coconut and lime, good flavour combo.

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Did you want to put some grapes in?

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Would that work?

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They've got that bit of acidity, so if you've only got three limes,

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then they might bring that up a bit for you.

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I've put them in already.

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Obviously, I needed to check I like them, yeah.

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Put your body weight behind it and press that juice out for me.

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Give that a taste.

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What do you think?

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A little bit more sweetness for me, I think.

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I'll tell you what I think would work well,

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just to give it a bit more richness and sweeten it at the same time.

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A touch of honey, I think would be perfect in this drink.

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Just a squeeze, that should be enough to get you started.

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-Ready for some ice?

-Right. Fill it up with ice, yeah?

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-And then shake it, yeah? Right.

-So, top and bottom.

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Speed it up, speed it up, speed it up.

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We're there, so it looks great.

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Oh.

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-Love the colour on that.

-Yeah.

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Taste away, and what do you think?

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Mm, that's nice... Oh, wait, we haven't put any alcohol in it!

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-Are you going to put some vodka in it?

-Yeah.

-You know what.

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-That's nice, it's fresh.

-Just like that it's really refreshing.

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-Yeah. Can I try it?

-You want to try it.

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It's like it almost doesn't actually need the alcohol.

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I love it like that.

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It's your cocktail for Katie but you could serve this.

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It's really well balanced. I really like it.

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Just if you can get the sweet-and-sour balance,

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a bit of dryness, maybe, with some vodka next time, but I like it.

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Bryony's told me she really wants to impress Katie

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with a sweet treat to end the evening.

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So, I wanted to come up with a dessert

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that looked really, really professional

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but was super easy for her to do.

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New to baking or not, this is a fool-proof easy meringue recipe.

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Master this, and never again

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will you need to reach for the shop-bought version.

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Now, these are slightly different meringues,

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because I'm going to put some desiccated toasted coconut

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inside them, so something a bit different.

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Toasting really brings out the flavour of the coconut

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and it also just softens the sweetness.

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So, what I do first is put the caster sugar in,

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which is totally backwards probably if you're used to making meringues.

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200 grams of caster sugar and that goes in, all of it.

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Four egg whites, but with this,

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you just put one egg white in first and then whisk it up.

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I learnt this recipe by accident because I put some sugar in first

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and some egg whites and I thought, "Oh!"

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Cos normally, you whisk up your egg whites

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and gradually add the sugar and I found out that it worked.

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It gave me really stiff, shiny, white meringues.

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So, I was sold and I've made it like that ever since.

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The coconut's going nice and toasty.

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Keep an eye on it cos it does burn very, very quickly.

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Here's me rabbiting on and it's nearly burning.

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That's one egg in there.

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Then you put another egg in.

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The beauty of doing it this way

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is if the phone rings or something happens

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and it's still whisking, you can't over-whisk it,

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which suits me just fine.

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See if this is ready yet.

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So, you want a really stiff shiny meringue.

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That is perfect.

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The coconut in these meringues brings texture and flavour.

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But you can experiment with mini chocolate chips or chopped nuts.

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So, this beautiful stiff and shiny meringue

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with little bits of toasted coconut in.

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Tasty. And then just pipe.

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OK, that's the first tray ready for the oven.

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Now the meringues are in the oven, it's an assembly job from here.

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My smooth ginger cream

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is the perfect filling for these coconut kisses.

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Stem ginger is packed full of flavour.

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It's preserved in syrup, giving this cream a sweet, fiery hit.

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Mix the cream, sugar and ginger and put in the fridge.

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And they look really pretty, they're perfectly baked,

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all crisp on the outside and a little bit mallow-y on the inside.

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Time to sandwich the meringue kisses together

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with a couple of blobs of the ginger cream,

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finished off with a juicy strawberry slice.

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So, these are cute little mouthfuls of meringue,

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just packed full of flavour

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and I really hope that Bryony and her hens enjoy them.

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For anyone who thinks making a meringue is complicated,

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this recipe may make you think again.

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Bryony's big day has arrived.

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When I first met her she struggled to cook me a poached egg

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but over the last three weeks, she's been practising like mad

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and now comes the real test, her best friend's hen-do.

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To keep it a secret from the bride-to-be, Katie,

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Bryony will be hosting the party with me.

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But I'm just here for moral support.

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Do you think that, before we met,

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you'd be making your own meringues...

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-No, with a piping bag!

-..for your friend's hen party?

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-With a piping bag.

-With toasted coconut in! No.

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Bryony's father would be so proud of her.

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He was a very good cook

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and he loved it and he'd be so thrilled.

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And do you think they're going to be completely astounded

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when they realise that Bryony has actually made this herself

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and even if they rummage through the bins,

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they're not going to find any packets from the supermarket.

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No, in fact, Lorraine, I think we need to keep that bowl

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and this piping bag as evidence

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that I've actually piped these by hand for them.

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And how many people are coming tonight?

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Six girls and they're well aware of my cooking skills,

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so I think they're going to be fairly surprised.

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Right, how are we doing?

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OK, so the chicken's there, we've got most of the rest of it cut up,

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so now we need two limes juiced, please.

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-OK. Are you happy with the amount you've got on there?

-Yes.

-Yeah.

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-At home, it was your dad that used to do all the cooking.

-Yeah, yeah.

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What do you think he'd say, seeing you two girls cooking away now?

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He wouldn't believe it, would he?

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-Do you think he'd be proud?

-Yeah.

-He'd be very proud.

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How are you feeling at this precise moment in time?

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-I'm nervous, she's nearly here!

-Give me a rundown.

-A rundown.

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-How long have we got?

-Not long, just not long.

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-Let's not go into exact detail.

-OK, spoons.

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Just do it as fast as you can.

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Am I doing this right?

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I'm panicking. This is like when I did the egg.

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Just have a breath. Take a breath.

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How much lime juice do you want, Bryony?

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Two, oh, two limes.

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It's really important you get it right, Bryony,

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-it's a special night for Katie.

-I know it's important, Mum!

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Oh, God, was that the door? Oh, God...

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-Any moment now.

-Oh, no!

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-How are you feeling, Bryony?

-Nervous.

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I can see them, here they come.

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Hello!

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ALL SQUEAL

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ALL LAUGH

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Katie.

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Hello.

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Hello! Hi, this is strange.

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Surprise!

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ALL LAUGH

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-Katie, this is your surprise hen-do dinner party.

-Speechless.

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ALL LAUGH

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-I know you know my cooking skills from living together.

-That is true.

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And so, I have been in training with Lorraine

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and with my mum and today, I've cooked you

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a special unique dinner party, from scratch, today.

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-It's all for you and you're my oldest best friend.

-Oh, my God!

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Sorry.

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Hugs together!

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THEY MURMUR, GIRLS AWW AND CLAP

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Wow, well, I'm already impressed.

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Cheers.

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Right, girls, well, if you'd like to come over here to the table.

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I will try it.

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I genuinely can't believe that, Bryony, you've created all this.

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Like how is that possible, you know?

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'Now for Bryony to showcase her stunning canapes.

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'The creamy feta and cucumber bites.

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'Crispy chorizo and lemon grass scrolls

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'and the Thai salad cups, larb gai.'

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Mm.

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Very good, Bryony, I have to say.

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It's really rewarding to see how far Bryony and Carrie have come.

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You know, Bryony cooked me that poached egg

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and it was a bit of a disaster.

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And now, she's put on this hen party for her friends

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and I'm actually really proud of her. I think it's awesome.

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It's so good, I'm thinking you haven't made it.

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Well, I have.

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But you do realise you've now dug a big hole for yourself.

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-I have. I might have done, have I?

-You've set the bar.

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-Well, you are now going to have to cook more.

-Yeah.

-It's just amazing.

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-I mean, I was so shocked.

-You were, weren't you?

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"Really, what's going on?"

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Really, what's going on and I really can't believe

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she's managed to do this for me, that she's just...

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It's all for you, Kate.

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-It's nice, isn't it?

-Definitely.

-Mm.

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Do you want coconut kisses?

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ALL GIGGLE

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I would just like to say, thank you to Lorraine,

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because she has really genuinely shown me how easy it is

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to cook some really beautiful, lovely, tasty things

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that aren't that difficult at all

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and she's given me a lot of confidence.

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She's definitely given my mum a lot of confidence.

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It's definitely gone a lot further than just tonight,

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and just what we've done for the girls,

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and I think, yeah, this experience

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is really going to extend out for us into...

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Well, yeah, for both of us,

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for the rest of our lives, I think.

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-Cheers.

-To Katie!

-Happy engagement!

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Thank you, Bryony!

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ALL LAUGH

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Since filming, Bryony has continued to perfect her canapes,

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and she's also been experimenting in cooking new dishes, too,

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including this chicken salad with a ginger, lime and soy sauce dressing.

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