Diane Louise Jordan My Life on a Plate


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'For everyone, there's a taste of food

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'or a smell of cooking that zooms you right back to childhood.'

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It's just like my mum's cake.

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'I'm Brian Turner...'

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It reminds me of someone I used to know at school.

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'..and I'm going to stir up the food memories

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'of some much-loved celebrities...'

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Ohh, look at that.

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'..going back to their early days before they were famous...'

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Mmm.

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Oh, my gosh.

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'..with recollections of Sunday roasts and school dinners...'

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-It's time for something to eat.

-Brilliant.

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'..and celebrating food their home regions are proud of.'

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HE LAUGHS

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-Which way would you like to go?

-Er, this way.

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'I'll recreate a nostalgic family favourite...'

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Mmm, you can't beat a crumble.

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'..and a tribute dish that puts my guest's life on a plate!'

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Magic, magic.

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Today, television presenter Diane Louise Jordan returns to her

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childhood home in Hertfordshire.

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There are surprises at her old school.

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-How are you?

-I'm a bit shellshocked.

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And memories of the neighbourhood that meant so much to her family.

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This area and that house, I'd say it saved our lives.

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And I'll be cooking dishes for her with local produce...

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This is it.

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..that'll be a real taste of childhood.

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I'd like to share it with you, but I'm not going to.

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It's gorgeous.

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Today, I'm in Hatfield, where I'm going to be finding

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out about the food memories of Diane Louise Jordan.

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Which do you fancy, which are your favourites?

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All of them.

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How did I know you'd say that?

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Diane's best known today as a presenter of Songs Of Praise.

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But back in 1990...

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DUCK CALL

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..she landed one of the best jobs in television

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when she became a Blue Peter presenter.

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It's only three weeks to go before the clocks go back

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and the stark evenings start drawing in, what does that mean?

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We'll all be switching on more lights around the house.

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Today, I'm going to find out all about her food memories

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and use them as the inspiration for two special dishes I'm going

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to create, just for her.

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Well, my mouth is salivating already.

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Diane was actually born in Hackney, in East London, in 1960.

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Her parents, Harold and Norma, had both travelled from Jamaica

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to London, where they met and married in 1956.

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My mum, all her sisters, they came here for their training as nurses

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and midwives and things like that, and then they went back to Jamaica.

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So I think the plan for my mum was to go back, but she met my dad.

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And I always go, "Oh, how romantic, you fell in love."

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She went, "No, we didn't fall in love, he just kept pestering me

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"and I gave in."

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I'm like, "I'm so glad you gave in because, hey, I wouldn't be here."

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Exactly. Exactly that.

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Harold and Norma settled in Hackney,

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where they began raising their family in a one-bedroom flat.

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But in the '50s and '60s,

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London could be a very unfriendly place for new arrivals.

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I do remember overridingly that it was a very cramped place,

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that we felt sort of a bit unwelcome.

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I remember being in the butcher shop with Mum...

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I'm a vegetarian now. Oh, butcher's shop.

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But I remember being in the butcher's shop with my mum,

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and we'd have to wait at the back

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until everybody else was served and then we got served.

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And at night, we used to...

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It was during that time when there were all those sort of riots

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happening in Notting Hill and it was quite tough.

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And my mum and my dad, to keep us children safe,

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they'd put us on a mattress right under the window because there were

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stories of stones coming through the homes of Caribbean people.

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So the stones would come, say a brick came through a window...

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-Sure, it would miss you.

-It would miss us.

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-Yeah.

-So there was this sort of backdrop of anxiety.

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At night, we always taped up the letterbox as well,

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just to make sure nothing came through there.

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So the outside world felt quite scary.

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Diane's dad was determined to find a better home for his family

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outside the capital and settled on Hatfield, 20 miles north of London.

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Hatfield was one of the many new towns that were

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built across the country after the Second World War.

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They offered modern homes, set in peaceful neighbourhoods,

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complete with all the facilities young families could want.

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I can't work out what made me more happy,

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the happiness on my mum's face...

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The smile, I mean, it was like all the weight of the world

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had just left her, and I do remember that.

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I just remember my mum being happy.

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But obviously, my dad was chuffed to pieces.

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Diane spent her whole childhood in Hatfield.

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I want to find out what it was like growing up here

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and what part food played in her life when she was young.

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So why are we actually in this particular shop?

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What does this mean to you?

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Well, when I was younger, you know, when I started senior school,

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I was then allowed down the town,

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-because we used to live at the other end of the town.

-OK.

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And it was only probably about two miles away,

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but it felt like another city.

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-So to go down the town was a really big thing.

-Grown-up.

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Yes, especially on Saturday morning.

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But we always, always used to pop into Simmons Bakery

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and buy an iced bun.

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But I used to have this thing of

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if I bought something sweet,

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I always used to, I felt that I always had to have something,

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um, a piece of fruit.

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We hardly ever had sweet things when we were at home anyway,

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mostly to do with the fact that we couldn't afford it, so an iced bun

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was a treat and it felt like it was more like a pudding.

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So I would buy my little green shiny apple and me

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and my mates would sit on the wall just opposite the bakery,

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just through there actually, and I'd munch my apple and have my iced bun.

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The cafe we're in - a place that was so important to Diane as a child -

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is a bit of a Hertfordshire institution.

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It's part of a local chain

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which was founded here nearly 200 years ago.

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The current bakery has been on the same site since 1945.

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Back then, everything was done by hand.

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But now, this bit of kit can turn out 8,000 rolls an hour!

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But the old skills aren't dying out just yet.

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At the moment, I'm making multi-grain sour loaves,

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which we produce around 150 a day and 300 all weekend.

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And then this is,

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this is what the finished loaves looks like once it's been baked off.

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In the old days we used to do it like this,

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but then there are not many people that can hand mould...

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Better than you, Paul Hollywood.

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Without a doubt,

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the runaway favourite produced by this bakery is...

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DRUMROLL

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The doughnut!

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Ah, doughnuts!

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Sticky with sugar or icing, full of raspberry jam -

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or custard if you're a bit weird -

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I can't think of anyone who doesn't love a doughnut.

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After a day of making them,

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it's not something I really want to eat.

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OK then, I can't think of anyone who doesn't like them

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apart from Paul here.

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We are just waiting for the doughnuts to fry.

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They take one minute and ten seconds each side.

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At the moment, they are very popular.

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We make a million doughnuts a year.

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If you think that's a lot - in this country, we get through

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200 doughnuts, cakes and pastries each, every year.

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That adds up to an annual UK total of over 12 billion.

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So in thousands of bakeries up and down the country, we're all

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making memories of our favourites - just like Diane and her iced buns.

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We sell about 900 a day.

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Other items, fashionable items, come in and go,

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but iced buns are still very popular, public still demand them.

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Oh, at long last, here come the buns. Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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That's fabulous. I want to eat them now.

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-You see, I can't even wait.

-You go for it.

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Mmm. That is heaven, that is heaven.

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Does that remind you of how it used to be?

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That brings back so many... It is sort of better.

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You know when you really love something and then you eat it

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again years later, it's a bit of disappointment isn't it?

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This is perfect.

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Although the bakeries were full of lovely treats when Diane was

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a child, one thing was missing in Hatfield - none of the shops

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sold the ingredients Diane's mum needed for her home cooking.

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So my mum, she's a brilliant Caribbean cook, really,

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all her food was delicious.

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Her English cooking was -

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she's not alive now so I can say it - abysmal.

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-Oh, dear.

-But she thought she was a great cook.

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I love you, Mum.

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As they couldn't get the ingredients in Hatfield, Diane's mum

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and dad would make regular trips to the famous Ridley Road market

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back in Hackney, to stock up on essentials.

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-Do you know what, when my mum used to cook here...

-Yeah.

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I used to feel a little bit embarrassed, I was like,

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"Stop cooking that Jamaican food, we live in England now."

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I mean, I really liked rice and beans and that's about all

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she ended up doing in the end,

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and sometimes we'd have fried dumplings. And, you know,

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our Sunday breakfasts were delicious,

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but they were a bit different.

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When I went to Jamaica and realised everybody was doing that, so there

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was fried dumpling, boiled dumplings and soup, just like my mum did it.

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There was... You could get fresh callaloo, you know,

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you could get mangoes off the tree in my grandad's garden.

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-Sure, yeah, yeah.

-It was just...

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It all opened up and I realised why my mum and my dad still really...

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Cos I was thinking, "Why do you go to so much effort to go to

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"Ridley Road? There is food in Hatfield."

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And then I started getting it.

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It's just these sort of memories that are going to inspire

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the dish I'll be making for Diane later.

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So I can see this is going to be a bit of a challenge for me.

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I'm going to create something that reminds you of your childhood,

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that reminds you of the Caribbean,

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that we can purchase in this part of the world,

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that a vegetarian eats,

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ay, ay, ay, ay, ay.

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Do you know, I really feel sorry for you,

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but I don't know how you are going to do it.

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We'll give it a go.

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Anyway, back to my bun.

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While I'm thinking about recipes,

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we're heading off to our next stop - Diane's first school.

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Back then, it was called Bishop Wood's Infants.

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It's now part of the De Havilland School.

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-Wow. This is...

-So what do you think?

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It's actually, it's freaking me out a little bit.

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Really?

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Because it sort of feels familiar, but it's...it's bigger.

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Were these buildings here?

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I'm not sure because... They look a bit new.

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-They look new, don't they?

-Yeah.

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That bit there with the chimneys,

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that looks like where the kitchen was, which I think served

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both the primary school and the infant school.

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-So did you like school meals?

-I loved school dinners.

-Really?

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Yeah, I was one of those weird people...

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You know when you meet adults and they talk about their

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school dinners, they always give it a thumb's down.

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And I just didn't get that because for me school dinners were the best.

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I used to really look forward to coming into our little dining room

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and we'd have tables with, I think,

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maybe six or eight children around each table and some of the

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people at the head of the table had to be the food monitor.

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-Monitor. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

-That's right.

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And my favourite pudding, I used to love everything with custard.

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But my best - and this school

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was the only place it's been done perfectly -

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is chocolate pudding and chocolate custard.

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And I don't know, all these fancy...

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There's a little warning to you, Brian, all these fancy restaurants

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and all these fancy chefs, they do chocolate pudding and chocolate

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custard but they do chocolate sauce, and they don't put enough on.

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No, we want chocolate pudding.

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I should start a campaign, shouldn't I?

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-Well, you'll be pleased to hear, in my thinking already...

-Huh.

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..that chocolate pudding and chocolate sauce do not exist.

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No!

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Sorry, sorry, you've had enough of that in your lifetime.

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I really... You know what, I'm now going to be disappointed.

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How many years since you've been in there?

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Since 1964. That's a long time.

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It is quite a while, you are quite right.

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I really hope you enjoy it in there, it will be a fantastic experience.

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Meanwhile, I'm going to nip over there, I'm going to try

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and find a dish to put together that sort of reflects your early days,

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the past, perhaps a Caribbean influence,

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food that you will enjoy, but not chocolate pudding.

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-You go enjoy that in there.

-No chocolate pudding.

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How can you not have chocolate pudding?

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Oh, my gosh.

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It's a really weird feeling.

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This is our school hall.

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And...we used to come in here for assembly. It was also...

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It doubled up as a gym.

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I wouldn't be surprised

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if that's exactly the same climbing frame and stuff that we had before.

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I'm actually shocked that I'm so...

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I feel like crying, I'm so shocked that I feel like this.

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I'm really happy to be here, but I think there's a...

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It feels like your life is literally flashing by you.

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And my memory is not very good, and I'm shocked at how much

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I really did remember this room.

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And it just makes me feel really nostalgic for my childhood.

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It was a really nice childhood. We had a really...

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I had a great experience here.

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I think all children should have at least the experience I had.

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We really felt cared for.

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Coming into assembly, which we had every day,

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I really believe that assembly is a great thing

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because it sort of settled you, no matter what you came from.

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It was a moment in the day where everyone could just be

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still for a while and sort of catch their breath

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before going off into their classrooms.

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And for me, that really helped.

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And I still like really quiet mornings now.

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We've set up the kitchen in the playground,

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where I'm going to create a vegetarian dish,

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inspired by Diane's memories of the Caribbean food her mum used to make.

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First thing I'm going to do is I'm going to make some fried

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dumpling batter, so strong flour goes in there.

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I'm going to take about 4g,

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almost a teaspoon of quick dried yeast.

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And then the water goes in.

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This wants to be like a soft dough,

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a stiff batter.

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And put it in a warmish region to just prove a little bit.

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Takes about 20 minutes, half an hour.

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It will depend on where you put it and the temperature.

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It's lovely and warm here today, it will take some holding.

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Next, I'm going to make a little vegetable stew.

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First, I need some chopped shallots,

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which I'm going to fry with some fresh corn.

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Now I want a bit of colour in there.

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I've got this lovely green pepper.

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So that goes in there, lovely colours already there.

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We want to sweat those off a little bit.

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Whilst we are doing that, I've got these tomatoes.

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I've taken the seeds out, I've kept the skin on, I'm going

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to put those into my stew in a moment, so they will actually start

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to melt a little bit, give a lovely flavour, lots of lovely colour.

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My vegetable stew needs just a couple more ingredients.

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OK, so I'm going to put some vegetable stock in there.

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I'd often use chicken stock personally,

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but we must remember Diane is a vegetarian,

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so a bit of vegetable stock in there...

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And a bit of double cream.

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Salt and pepper.

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And then the tomatoes go in there and we just leave this to cook out.

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Inside the school, Diane's still getting her bearings.

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Ah, that leads through to junior school.

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I'll go and have a quick look.

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I'm sorry, I've just got to have a peep.

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Yeah, look, it's the same room but bigger.

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Yeah, I remember this.

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Oh, my gosh, I think I've just seen somebody I know.

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-Oh, Julie.

-How are you?

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Oh, I'm a bit shellshocked to tell you the honest truth.

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I was trying to work out... We both went to this school,

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but you went to this school with my brother, didn't you, Roger?

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Yes, yeah, Roger.

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-Yeah, yeah. So you were a couple of years younger.

-Yeah.

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-It's really changed.

-I know, I know.

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-When you come, there used to be a hatch here.

-That's...

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There was infants this side and juniors that side.

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-It was two dining rooms.

-That's right.

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-That's why I got confused...

-They've changed all this.

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Cos when I came out of the hall...

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So when we were in the infant school,

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were there steps coming up there or something?

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Yeah, they didn't have the lift.

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-Yeah.

-And this was the dining room.

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All that was the dining room.

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Yes, that's right. That's why I got completely confused.

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And there were wooden steps, if you remember right,

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there was wooden steps that you went down into the hall.

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-Yes.

-Very, very different.

-So...

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Right, so this is where the infants' dining room would have been.

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-Yup, that's it.

-All of this. OK.

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Now I get where we are in the school.

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Why are you here anyway? What do you do?

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I'm the cook. I've been a cook here for 20 years.

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I've just got my long service ward.

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-Wow. So you left and then came straight back?

-Yeah.

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No, no. No, I left, I worked, I worked...

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When I had children, I came back here because I wanted

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-a school job, so I'm the cook.

-Well, I'm so glad you're here

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because you've really helped bring back these memories.

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Oh, Julie, I'll let you get back to work, and thank you so much.

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-That's OK. Find your classroom.

-Yeah, I am going to find it now.

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Up through that way. That's the caretaker's office, that one.

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Oh, yeah, and then I can go down, can I?

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-That hasn't changed a lot.

-All right. OK, thank you.

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-Good luck.

-Thank you, bye-bye.

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Outside, while my stew's cooking, I'm going

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to make a simple red pepper sauce, starting with an onion

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and a large red pepper, chopped finely and fried in butter.

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I'm going to cook them really soft.

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I've got a little bit of dry sherry here.

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It just gives it a different flavour.

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What I really want to do, I'll make this quite spicy,

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so I've got some wonderful Tabasco sauce here.

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So we'll put, very carefully measure that,

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as little or as much as you like.

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Don't know what Diane wants, so I'll make it quite spicy.

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There we go.

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I've got my vegetable stock, put that in there.

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Just a tad of cream.

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Yeah, this is my...

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This is my classroom, but they've changed it.

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Mrs Wheatley would sit down here, she'd be,

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she'd greet at the door, she was so lovely.

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Sitting here, because it feels familiar, um,

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this is a nice feeling because I remember this bit.

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But where's the blackboard gone?

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That was a real sign of my classroom,

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and I used to like watching Mrs Wheatley. It's like all teachers

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had special handwriting that worked perfectly on blackboards.

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I felt really safe here, particularly in this classroom.

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Yeah, I adored Mrs Wheatley. She is what teachers should be.

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She even looked like a teacher, you know,

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dark curly hair and brogue shoes, and, you know, Arran cardigans

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and tweedy skirts. She looked like a proper teacher.

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You're born with great creative imaginations, but to be in a place

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where you can really, that can be nurtured is so important and so...

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I am sitting here... It is a little bit different, but I am

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so grateful that this room existed

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because I just feel like I had a really great start in life.

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The stew and the sauce are ready.

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It's nearly time to plate up my Caribbean feast.

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I've made a simple but vibrant vegetable stew with corn, tomato

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and green pepper, cooked together with some vegetable stock and cream.

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And alongside it, I've made a quick red pepper sauce, with just

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an onion, some garlic, a red pepper, stock, cream and a splash of sherry.

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I do hope this dish will bring back memories of childhood for Diane,

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especially once I've put on the finishing touches.

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-Hi, Brian.

-Dear lady, how was that?

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That was emotional.

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Seriously, it was...

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I think I went through every gamut of emotions you can think of.

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-Did you cry?

-No.

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But you don't have to say.

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I hope lovely experiences, I hope you really enjoyed it.

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Now, I've prepared this dish which I hope will

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think, smell of the Caribbean,

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will the dishes that your mum talked about, perhaps she didn't cook.

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And what...

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Because your vegetarian, I've done a little vegetable stew over here.

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So I've got green peppers, tomatoes, onions. But I've also done,

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and this will be a real test will this...

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These, hopefully, are going to become fried dumplings

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with a Caribbean recipe that I saw.

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So we'll just put those... Let's see if we can get these...

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Oh, you're making little tiny ones, how cute.

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Yeah, well, you're tiny and you're cute, so this is really to...

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You say all the right things.

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They look fantastic to me.

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And it's all good fun is doing these.

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Just you have to be careful of course, it's hot fat.

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Keep our eyes on those.

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So whilst that's happening, just this parsley,

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just going to chop it at the last minute, so that we can get

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those lovely colours staying there, get lovely flavours.

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-I love watching a chef work.

-Yes, so do I.

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I couldn't do that, takes me about three days.

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Right, I think we are just about ready there.

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So we just take those out.

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Just put those there to drain.

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They are nice and light, I have to say.

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They are lighter than I thought they'd be.

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-We'll take the chopped parsley, going to put it in my stew.

-Yep.

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And it goes over there.

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Give us a spoon.

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So, look, I just stir that in nicely.

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-It's all those lovely vegetables.

-Yeah, it looks lovely.

0:23:240:23:27

So, look, that goes in the middle of plate.

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So there I've made a sauce here.

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But normally, with electricity, I'd blitz this

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and it would be a bit finer, but actually it's chopped nice and fine.

0:23:330:23:36

-But just nice colours. Red peppers, there's sherry in there.

-Great.

0:23:360:23:42

You're a very brave man leaving the spoon so close to me.

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It's all right, dear, I've got you under control.

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And nice little dumplings, I'm just going to...

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pile them on top.

0:23:530:23:55

-So gorgeous.

-Just got a little bit of...

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I hope this will be a nostalgic return to the Caribbean for you.

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This is a dish I'm hoping is packed full of memories for Diane,

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inspired by the stories of the food of her childhood.

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It's a colourful, spicy vegetable stew topped with dumplings

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that should remind her of the ones that her mum used to make.

0:24:150:24:19

I'm going to try these dumplings first but... Do you know,

0:24:190:24:22

I am actually going to try a bit of everything because I can't wait.

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Good girl.

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SHE LAUGHS I'm not sure I like that laugh.

0:24:300:24:33

I was always told not to speak with my mouth full.

0:24:360:24:38

It's not fun, you've got bags of space in there.

0:24:380:24:40

Yeah, but if I wasn't married, you'd be my husband.

0:24:400:24:43

This is gorgeous, this is absolutely gorgeous.

0:24:430:24:47

It may not be 100% Caribbean,

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but does it have certain nostalgic thoughts of the Caribbean?

0:24:490:24:52

Well, the dumplings, they look a bit like a fritter,

0:24:520:24:55

and then I love the lightness of them.

0:24:550:24:58

They are just nice because it reminds me of my mum's cooking,

0:24:580:25:01

-but it's advanced a little bit.

-Oh, how sweet.

0:25:010:25:04

No, it's true.

0:25:040:25:05

And I think that's what all good cooking should be like,

0:25:050:25:07

-shouldn't it?

-Evolution. You are quite right.

0:25:070:25:10

I'd like to share it with you, but I'm not to.

0:25:110:25:14

It's gorgeous.

0:25:140:25:15

Mmm.

0:25:170:25:19

I'm really glad to have been able to cook a taste of the Caribbean

0:25:190:25:22

for Diane, and bring back some happy memories of her mum's home cooking.

0:25:220:25:27

But imagine if you moved to a place where you couldn't buy any

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British basics like potatoes, carrots or onions.

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Those wonderful root vegetables.

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You'd soon miss them and familiar recipes.

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But you might come up with the same solution as farmer David Mwanaka.

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David trained as a journalist in Zimbabwe.

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However, in 1991,

0:25:490:25:51

he and his wife fled their homeland to move to the UK.

0:25:510:25:55

Once here, he found it difficult to get a job in his chosen profession.

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But one day, he had an idea that changed his life completely.

0:26:010:26:04

I've come just ten miles down the road, from Hatfield to Enfield,

0:26:060:26:09

to meet him.

0:26:090:26:10

You haven't always been a farmer, so how did it all start?

0:26:100:26:13

When I came over to this country, I started missing the food that

0:26:130:26:17

I used to get back home. So it came to a point when I thought,

0:26:170:26:22

"What shall I do, should I continue missing the food or do something?"

0:26:220:26:26

That's when I started experimenting to grow

0:26:260:26:29

some of the foods that I grew up eating in Zimbabwe.

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What were the kind of things that you missed the most?

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I would say that I missed the most white maize.

0:26:350:26:39

I know most of you don't know it, but I personally missed it

0:26:390:26:42

when I came to the UK and it simply wasn't available.

0:26:420:26:45

So that's actually what drove me into farming.

0:26:450:26:48

'White maize is a bigger, chewier cousin of sweetcorn

0:26:480:26:53

'and it's one of the staple crops in southern Africa.'

0:26:530:26:57

So was it easy to grow maize in the first place?

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Well, absolutely not.

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It was very difficult.

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It took me something like well over six years to try to get a crop,

0:27:020:27:08

because I was growing seed

0:27:080:27:11

from various countries and maize itself is a tropical crop.

0:27:110:27:16

So it really needs a warm summer.

0:27:160:27:19

And at the same time, the summer has got to be long.

0:27:190:27:22

So it really took me a long time for me to get...

0:27:220:27:25

to get to know what to grow.

0:27:250:27:26

David now produces enough vegetables to supply his farm shop and butchers

0:27:290:27:35

where his home-made African-style sausages are a big seller.

0:27:350:27:40

As business has expanded,

0:27:400:27:42

he's begun growing a variety of vegetables - including pumpkins,

0:27:420:27:46

squash and mustard leaves - all grown in his greenhouses.

0:27:460:27:50

And he's promised me some kale to take away.

0:27:500:27:53

I think I might have bitten a bit more off than I can chew here.

0:27:540:27:57

Oh, right, there you go. This is it.

0:27:570:28:00

Now, this is not kale as I know it. It has got smaller leaves,

0:28:000:28:05

which I can see there are small leaves, and it's deeper green.

0:28:050:28:08

Yes, there are so many, many varieties of kale.

0:28:080:28:11

-This is just one of them.

-Right, OK. And what would you eat?

0:28:110:28:14

-You'd eat...

-Just leaves, yeah.

0:28:140:28:17

-Maybe from there.

-Right.

0:28:170:28:20

-This bit, boil it, just like spinach.

-OK.

0:28:200:28:24

David still grows fields of the vegetable that started it all.

0:28:270:28:32

It's early in the season for white maize,

0:28:320:28:35

but some of the crop's already as tall as me.

0:28:350:28:38

It's like being in a jungle, isn't it ?

0:28:380:28:41

Yeah. So this is probably a month away from harvesting.

0:28:410:28:45

Right.

0:28:450:28:46

And like all things, they are better eaten fresh

0:28:460:28:49

when they have just been harvested, the lovely young tender, sweet.

0:28:490:28:52

Absolutely, absolutely. Actually, one thing with maize is,

0:28:520:28:55

maize has got a shelf life of one day, unlike sweetcorn.

0:28:550:28:58

-Really?

-Yeah, just one day.

0:28:580:29:00

You've got to pick it, either cook it or boil it on the day.

0:29:000:29:04

So that's how difficult it is dealing with maize.

0:29:040:29:07

And actually, in Mexico, where maize originally is from,

0:29:070:29:11

they used to say that if you want the best taste out of maize,

0:29:110:29:15

you make sure you boil the pot first.

0:29:150:29:17

-Really? Pick and then put it straight in the pot.

-Exactly.

0:29:170:29:20

When it's ready, some maize will be sold fresh, the rest will be frozen.

0:29:200:29:25

In the meantime, David's wife Brenda has invited me

0:29:270:29:30

to try some of their other produce.

0:29:300:29:33

That looks wonderful.

0:29:330:29:35

That's the Boerewors sausage.

0:29:350:29:36

Ah, Boerewors - South Africa and Zimbabwe.

0:29:360:29:39

You are very proud of your Boerewors. Very good.

0:29:390:29:42

Then you've got the squashed leaves of pumpkin leaves there.

0:29:420:29:47

Very good, very good.

0:29:470:29:48

I feel really guilty, we haven't eaten anything and me,

0:29:480:29:50

I've never stopped eating.

0:29:500:29:53

I can completely understand what drove David to grow

0:29:530:29:56

a taste of his homeland.

0:29:560:29:58

For me, life without spuds wouldn't be worth living.

0:29:580:30:02

I'm going to be using some of David's wonderful vegetables

0:30:040:30:07

as part of the tribute dish I'm going to make for Diane

0:30:070:30:10

in the street she grew up in.

0:30:100:30:12

Diane's beloved father lived in the family home until his death in 2011.

0:30:160:30:22

This is the first time Diane's been back since.

0:30:220:30:26

-There it is.

-Mmm.

-How do you feel?

0:30:260:30:29

Um... Now...

0:30:290:30:31

Speechless?

0:30:310:30:32

This is probably the hardest one, really, because, um...

0:30:320:30:35

That was your home.

0:30:370:30:38

That was the place you came to from Hackney.

0:30:380:30:41

Yeah, it's so weird because we essentially lived here

0:30:410:30:45

all our lives, this was the family home.

0:30:450:30:47

It looks so different, it's grey and...

0:30:470:30:51

Was it a different colour before?

0:30:510:30:53

It was white and the windows were different. But it feels absolutely

0:30:530:30:59

weird to be standing here and not just walking in the side door.

0:30:590:31:02

I just used to come and let myself in, and now I'm standing here...

0:31:040:31:08

And it's a grey house, you know, it's a white house.

0:31:080:31:11

I know it sounds silly but...

0:31:110:31:13

I believe it's a young family who've just moved in.

0:31:160:31:18

-We were really young when we moved there.

-Right.

0:31:180:31:21

-And this house, believe it or not, was a blessing to us.

-Sure.

0:31:210:31:26

It wasn't just the house, the whole neighbourhood has left its mark.

0:31:280:31:32

It was more magical when we first moved in.

0:31:320:31:33

Obviously, everything was brand-new, there were never cars.

0:31:330:31:36

-There are cars all the way...

-I was going to ask you, it's very busy now.

0:31:360:31:39

Yeah, I've got photos of when we used to play up the front here,

0:31:390:31:42

and maximum two cars you'd see along this road.

0:31:420:31:47

So it was really safe to play out here.

0:31:470:31:50

And we used to play literally on this green,

0:31:500:31:52

we used to play rounders and we used to have such fun.

0:31:520:31:55

Did you get a sense of community after a while?

0:31:550:31:58

Definitely, definitely. Everybody knew everybody.

0:31:580:32:00

And I think a lot of what happens to you as a young person is about

0:32:000:32:05

the person you become as an adult.

0:32:050:32:08

And the house has changed a lot.

0:32:080:32:11

But this area and that house, I would say it saved our lives.

0:32:110:32:15

-Fantastic.

-Yeah.

0:32:150:32:17

I am going to cook a dish just for you, and I really hope you enjoy it.

0:32:190:32:22

In the meantime, why don't you just have a walk around the area,

0:32:220:32:25

see who you can see and what you can see.

0:32:250:32:27

I'm looking forward to that food already.

0:32:270:32:29

My tribute dish for Diane is inspired by what I've found

0:32:300:32:33

out about her today.

0:32:330:32:35

It's going to be vegetarian,

0:32:350:32:37

it's going to incorporate the ingredients I picked

0:32:370:32:39

up on David's farm, and it's going to have my own Caribbean twist.

0:32:390:32:44

To start with, I'm going to need a halved butternut squash.

0:32:440:32:48

Don't throw the seeds away, we can use those.

0:32:480:32:51

So I'll put those into a bowl here and we'll treat those later.

0:32:530:32:57

But look at those lovely pumpkin seeds.

0:32:570:33:01

So...salt and pepper.

0:33:010:33:03

Nice, gentle flavour of butternut squash.

0:33:040:33:07

You want to give them some flavour,

0:33:070:33:09

so I've got this thyme over here.

0:33:090:33:11

We are just going to sprinkle that over the top,

0:33:130:33:16

give it a real bit of flavour and then a bit of rapeseed oil.

0:33:160:33:20

And we'll just put those to roast in the oven, 180 degrees,

0:33:200:33:24

200 degrees, probably take about 20 minutes, half an hour.

0:33:240:33:28

They don't need to be fully cooked but almost.

0:33:280:33:31

'While the squash is cooking, Diane's exploring some of her old haunts.'

0:33:310:33:36

So we came to Hatfield not too soon after,

0:33:360:33:39

not too long after this new development had been established.

0:33:390:33:44

And there was a real sense of excitement

0:33:440:33:47

and there was a real pride in being part of this new community.

0:33:470:33:51

And if you notice the church over there, it's in the shape of a sail.

0:33:510:33:56

In those days, everybody went to church, so they wanted to

0:33:560:34:00

sort of declare that as the centre of community. And they created,

0:34:000:34:03

if I've got this right,

0:34:030:34:05

but they purposely created it in the sort of ship's sail shape

0:34:050:34:10

to sort of give it a sense of adventure and exploring the new.

0:34:100:34:15

When they were built, the new towns were designed to be

0:34:170:34:20

family friendly with facilities for everyone.

0:34:200:34:24

What used to happen was that, you know,

0:34:240:34:26

mums would take the kids to school in the pushchairs and prams,

0:34:260:34:29

nobody drove to school in those days.

0:34:290:34:31

And then they would come up here to get the food shopping for the day.

0:34:310:34:35

And I think the launderette was always there.

0:34:350:34:38

But the charity shop was the vegetable...the greengrocers.

0:34:380:34:41

There's a taxi shop, and that used to be where I got...

0:34:410:34:45

That was a cake shop.

0:34:450:34:46

So I used to get iced buns there as well.

0:34:460:34:50

We may have started the day with an iced bun,

0:34:530:34:56

but we're going to finish with something savoury and spicy.

0:34:560:35:00

I've already got a butternut squash roasting in the oven.

0:35:000:35:03

Once it's cooked, I'm going to stuff it with a mix of rice

0:35:030:35:06

and kidney beans.

0:35:060:35:08

This is a staple dish in the Caribbean,

0:35:080:35:11

where it's known as rice and peas.

0:35:110:35:14

Put some oil in there too.

0:35:140:35:16

Start to heat up.

0:35:160:35:18

First, I'll need half an onion and a diced courgette.

0:35:180:35:23

And I'm going to add one of the new ingredients I've just discovered -

0:35:230:35:27

white maize.

0:35:270:35:29

Nice and chewy, not as sweet as sweet corn but actually works well.

0:35:290:35:32

So I'm going to put that in there.

0:35:320:35:34

Oopsy daisy.

0:35:350:35:38

It's like popcorn, it started jumping out then.

0:35:380:35:41

Next, a can of tomatoes.

0:35:410:35:43

Tinned tomatoes work well in lots of these stews and sauces

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and helps it to cook.

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And finally...

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I'm going to put some okra in there.

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I know it's very much loved in the Caribbean.

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Going to put it in there and I'm going to keep the little bits

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and put it in there.

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A bit of salt and pepper.

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And now, I'm going to add my rice and peas.

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Now that's looking quite good, is that.

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Diane's bumped into an old friend of the family, it's Jennie.

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I don't know if you remember, but when we were young,

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all the kids, we used to play rounders on this bit of green.

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We're still getting that, um...

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-Oh, kids still do that?

-Yeah, it's football now.

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See, rounders was better.

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Do you think it's changed round here quite a lot?

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Oh, yes.

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You know, I don't go out an awful lot now.

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-Yeah.

-But no, on the whole, it's not bad.

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You know in the olden days, though,

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-we never had all these cars down here, did we?

-Oh, no.

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So it was like, it was safe to play out here.

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It was, it was. It was, yeah.

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Now the butternut squash is tender,

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I'm going to stuff it with my rice and peas mixture.

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Well, the nice thing about this, there is plenty of it, so you can

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actually serve some separate if you like, but just to make it...

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I think this looks really pretty, and it's really tasty, is this.

0:37:080:37:13

Let's put that in the oven now, again,

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just to finish cooking the squash but also to just keep sure

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that the filling is nice and cooked through.

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Bags of flavour in there.

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Well, this old tree really brings back very special memories.

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When I was younger, at one stage there were four

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children in our little house, and Mum and Dad, obviously all our

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friends used to pop in and out. So it was quite a busy house at times.

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So I used to just always look for those little nooks and crannies

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where I could pull myself away and just have some me time.

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And this place here, under the willow tree,

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was only about 15 yards away from the house,

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so quite often I would just nip out with jam sandwiches

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and my book to read or sometimes some sketching.

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And I'd literally just sit here, on a day just like this

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with the sun just pouring through the leaves,

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and feel so contented.

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While Diane's reflecting on her memories, back in the kitchen,

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I've been inspired by stories of her childhood to create a special dish

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that I hope she's going to love.

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So far, I've roasted a halved butternut squash

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and I've stuffed it with my version of rice and peas,

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packed full of delicious veggies like white maize, okra and tomatoes.

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I do hope Diane approves of my twist on her food heritage.

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-Hello, my darling.

-Hello, sweetie, how was it?

0:38:550:38:57

-I've had a great look around.

-Really?

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So much has changed, it's weird. And now I've built up an appetite.

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-Fantastic.

-So what have you got for me?

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Well, what I've managed to find is some kale, which is

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-sort of Caribbean style of kale.

-OK.

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Unlike the kale that we have here, the curly kale....

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-I love curly kale.

-Lovely, OK. So this is...

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And what we've done with this is we've taken the stalks

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-out of this, rolled it up like a cigar.

-Oh, wow.

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Cut into thin slices, put into boiling water

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-and then take that in cold water.

-Can I taste?

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You can, but it's not ready yet because I'm going to finish

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it off, but that's the first bit of the job that you need to do.

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And I'm going to serve the kale with whatever I've got in here.

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Salt and pepper in there and I've also got somewhere a bit of nutmeg.

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Oh, gorgeous.

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That, I think, just actually works nicely,

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so we'll just leave that to heat up.

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I've also made a green banana salad.

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I boiled them in their skins for 20 minutes, then peeled

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and chopped them into chunks.

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I added lime juice, the crunch of grated cucumber and onion

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and a little fresh chilli.

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And so now is the time to reveal what I've actually cooked for you.

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-We are going to put all this lot together.

-Yeah, I can't wait.

0:40:080:40:11

Me neither. SHE LAUGHS

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Ooh, that looks nice.

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Butternut squash, roasted and stuffed with rice and beans,

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okra, a courgette.

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So the rice and beans is sort of like the...

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It's based on the rice and peas type of...

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It's based on that kind of dish, yes, that's absolutely right.

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I mean, it's so funny,

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I used to say my mum, "You use kidney beans, you use, you know,

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"all sorts of different beans, but you call them peas, why?"

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She said, "Don't ask me any silly questions."

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Well, exactly, and I totally agree with your mother.

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The kale goes on...

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It's really not just tasty, but it's healthy is this kale.

0:40:470:40:49

-Yeah, I love kale.

-And I just think the colour....

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-It's gorgeous, isn't it?

-..is lovely. So I'm going to take...

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-That goes on there.

-That looks nice.

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And then, just got this added extra.

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Whatever you do, don't spill it on the floor.

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-These are the actual seeds.

-Oh, yeah.

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That I've just roasted.

0:41:080:41:10

Wow, I would have thrown those away.

0:41:100:41:12

Well, most people would do, but actually, they are very good for you,

0:41:120:41:16

they are very tasty, they've got a really nice crunch to them.

0:41:160:41:20

Oh, right, OK. Wow, I love that idea.

0:41:200:41:25

-Now that's my hot tip for the day.

-Well there you go, you see.

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Because you normally just waste it, there is nothing to be wasted.

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-That goes on there.

-Great.

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Just a little bit to make it look pretty.

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Et voila, my tribute dish for Diane is

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butternut squash served on kale,

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stuffed with my twist on rice and peas.

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I'm serving it with a green banana salad.

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I do hope Diane enjoys my version of Caribbean flavours.

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So can I delve in?

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Please, yes, yes. Over here first. Want to hear what you think of this.

0:41:550:41:59

Let me just try the rice.

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Mmm.

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Ooh, this is flavoursome.

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Right, butternut squash.

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-Roasting it just gives it so much flavour, I think.

-Mmm.

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I'm not a Caribbean cook,

0:42:130:42:14

I don't really know much about Caribbean cookery, but I've

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listened to different people, I've read cookery books, I've listened

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to what you've had to say and so it's inspired by the Caribbean.

0:42:200:42:24

If you close your eyes when you're eating this,

0:42:240:42:26

-I can see long white beaches.

-Deep blue sea.

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Turquoise blue skies.

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Deep blue... Oh, my goodness me.

0:42:310:42:34

Shall we go? Take our food and let's get our passports.

0:42:340:42:37

This is so delicious.

0:42:370:42:39

Have you had a good day today?

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I've had a great day. This is where I grew up.

0:42:400:42:42

This is the place that formed me,

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and so it's so special coming back to do that.

0:42:440:42:47

I...I can't express how much I love eating,

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and to have someone of your calibre cooking me such beautiful

0:42:510:42:55

food all day, it's like I've gone to heaven and died, thank you.

0:42:550:42:59

You're very kind. I'm glad you've enjoyed it.

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Seriously, I've loved it, I've loved it, thank you so much.

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You're an absolutely star.

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I would like to talk more, but I'm busy.

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Mmm, I'd like to do it again.

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