Episode 1 Operation Hospital Food with James Martin


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Every year, the NHS spends around £500 million on hospital food

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but it's reckoned that almost half the patients refuse to eat it

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because they find it inedible.

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-Mashed potato, what's wrong with the mash?

-You could hang wallpaper up with it.

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I believe that everybody deserves to eat good food.

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To me, there's nowhere where food is more important than in a hospital.

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It's estimated that the previous government spent more than £50 million on failed initiatives

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to change the food on our wards.

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Scarborough General Hospital is up for change.

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For the next three months, I'm working alongside the kitchen staff

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to try and make a difference.

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Pat, I'm trying to help you.

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-I know you are.

-Everything's out of a tin, everything's out of packet,

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everything. Everything. All the veg are frozen.

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But there's also a personal reason why I want to take this on.

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I watched my grandmother pass away in hospital

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and, and she was a, a huge influence on me in terms of food and,

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and teaching me about food.

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To watch her suffer and to watch her eat the stuff that was served in the hospital,

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it wasn't fantastic.

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The only way to change it is to actually physically

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get off your backside and do something about it.

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I've been given exclusive access to Scarborough General Hospital

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which provides healthcare for the North East of Yorkshire.

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More than 40,000 people are admitted each year and they all need to be fed.

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I've never really sort of seen behind the scenes in

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a working hospital. I'm assuming it's like a,

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like a hotel kitchen...ish.

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The kitchens at Scarborough are run by catering manager, Pat Bell.

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I've worked here in Scarborough Hospital for nearly 21 years.

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Previous to that I was deputy catering manager

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in Southampton General Hospital.

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Good morning, it's Pat here from Scarborough Hospital.

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We have to cater for the whole spectrum.

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Not everybody's going to like everything so the choices that

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we put on the menu we hope will appeal to a wide range of people.

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'Pat is supported by a loyal and dedicated team, many of them have

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'also been there for over 20 years and include head chef, Sharon Ellis,

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'Alan "Big Al" Rosbottom

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'and budding young chef Darren Glover, known as "Big Bird"

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'to his colleagues.'

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James Martin, I mean he's familiar to most caterers.

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He's got a lot in common with the staff here that work at Scarborough Hospital.

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He went to Yorkshire Coast College

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where a lot of them have trained as well.

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We have such a rich environment round in Scarborough, you know,

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great fish, great producers.

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I know the people in the area.

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I know particularly how good the local food is.

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I think we're very proud that a local person has done so well

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and wants to come and work with us.

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I've catered for thousands of people a day but this is

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definitely the hardest challenge that I've ever done.

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So I'm feeling nervous, apprehensive...

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Why did I ever say yes to this?

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'Before I go into the kitchens I want to hear from the people

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'that matter the most - the patients.

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'It's their opinion that really counts, so I head straight

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'to the Maple ward to talk to some of the long-term patients.'

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What, what do you think of the, of the food you've had cos you,

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-You've been here six months, you must have tasted everything.

-Yeah, I have, yeah, it's not good.

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-I appreciate that it's difficult cooking for all these people.

-Hmm.

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-I would just like it to be better and taste better.

-Yeah.

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I mean yesterday we had roast pork and apple sauce, carrots and cabbage,

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but the cabbage, the carrots were cooked within an inch of their life.

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-Yeah, right.

-And the mash potatoes I don't really know what had happened to them.

-Right.

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-You know.

-The only criticism I could make is the size of it,

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they feel a bit like kids meals to me.

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As a package it's pretty poor

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vegetables wet and soggy.

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Mashed potato, you could walk across it

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and custard the same, you know, it's lumpy and well, you could walk across that as well.

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'Independent surveys as far back as 1963

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'consistently conclude that the NHS hospital food is

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'neither appetising nor nutritious, which is hardly surprising when you

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'discover that as little as £1 a meal is being spent.'

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I've been given the opportunity to make a difference here at Scarborough.

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My first task is to win the hearts and minds of the hospital staff.

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Feel like a bit like a new boy starting school,

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you know, for the first time.

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Apprehensive, nervous.

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I do feel like I've just started a new job.

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But, well...

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I suppose we, we give it a go, don't we?

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-Is Pat around, or, you're Pat, are you?

-Hiya James, nice to meet you.

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Welcome to Scarborough Hospital, nice to see you.

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-Let me introduce you to Sharon my head chef.

-Hi, pleased to meet you.

-Hello Sharon,

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-are you all right?

-Fine thank you.

-And how many meals come out of here a day?

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-Over a thousand.

-A thousand meals a day.

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-And who decides the menu, you?

-Yes.

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And how much have we got to spend?

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We have a patient meal allowance of £3.49 per patient per day.

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-And that includes...

-It's a lot then, innit?

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-Yeah, all three meals.

-Three meals.

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Three, three main meals, all their beverages and biscuits that we give them throughout the day.

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-How many full time chefs have we got, in here?

-12.

-12?

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13 with me, yeah.

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Right, OK.

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'I'm beginning to understand the challenges they're facing.

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'They're producing a huge volume of meals here, with just over

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'£1 per patient, per meal and they have to do all this

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'in a kitchen that's not exactly state of the art.'

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And all this kit works then, does it?

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-Yeah, yeah.

-Are you sure?

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-Yes, it all works.

-Right, when, when was this machine made.

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Where's the... where's the coal go into it?! Bloody hell, look at that thing.

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Right, you don't use, do you still use this?

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Yes, yeah.

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Like many other NHS hospitals, Scarborough rotates

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its menus on a three-week basis.

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This means that every day for 21 days the patients are offered

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a new menu to choose off for both lunch and dinner.

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This results in the kitchen staff cooking over 100 different dishes per menu cycle.

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That's today's patients' menu.

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-This is it, yeah?

-That's today's lunch menu.

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Shepherd's pie,

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-so D is diabetic, R is reducing, what's that for, reducing what?

-Weight.

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Give them a side salad, love. That's what.

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F, but F, you've got low fat as well.

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Yeah.

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OK. Already I can see some conflict brewing with Pat.

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-Margarine.

-Yeah.

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-Polyunsaturated.

-But that's bad for you.

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No. Polyunsaturated margarine which is better for you than butter, James.

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-Can't be.

-Which we know that you like your butter.

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And it's better than butter.

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Please tell me we'll have butter instead of margarine, because if not I'm going to

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-take you where it's made and prove to you that margarine's bad for you.

-All right, then.

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-Have I got my work cut out, then?

-You sure have.

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He's taken the mick out of my equipment in the kitchen already

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and he'd only been here ten minutes

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and he wants to put butter on the menu,

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so I think we're going to have a bit of a fight on our hands.

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It may be only day one, but it's already occurred to me that the kitchen is cooking

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a staggering number of different dishes. I need to find a way to simplify things.

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But before I can change anything, I want to understand the whole process.

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The kitchen staff have been in since 6am preparing and cooking today's lunch.

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-It's now 10:30.

-Yeah.

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When does this get eaten?

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It leaves the kitchen at 11:15 and it gets to the wards anytime round

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about 12 o'clock and after that, you know, the different wards get it different times, obviously.

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I'm amazed that you, you make food and it's made at 10.30,

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and then it gets boosted to temperature again,

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no wonder it's rotten when it gets to the... It's...

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It's difficult explaining to somebody that's just walked in how we actually work,

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and it sounds like we don't know what we're doing, but obviously we do.

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But you know, until he gets up on the ward and sees the meal being

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presented to the patient, then he might get some idea of how it works.

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I'm still getting my head around how this kitchen functions,

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so I think the best thing to do is follow today's lunch as it heads up to the wards.

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This is the moment that the whole morning has been building up to.

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There are around 300 patients all waiting for their lunch.

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First the catering staff portion the food before placing it into a hot cabinet.

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The food is then held in here until it's time to be transferred

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into insulated boxes that go up to the wards, one box per ward.

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-They'll put the food into the trolley.

-Yeah.

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They've put it on a cycle for 15 minutes so it's at 120 degrees.

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'Once the food has been superheated to the right temperature,

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'it's then put on to a trolley and plated up for the patients.

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'Every year, the NHS spends around £500 million on food.

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'Lunchtime should be one of the highlights of a patient's day,

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'but from what I've seen, this food may be fine when it's freshly cooked

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'in the kitchen, but by the time it gets to the ward a few hours later, it's pretty unappetising.'

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-And once you've done this?

-Yeah.

-What happens to all this?

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They're thrown away.

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Any left gets disposed of, can't be reused cos it's been out on the ward.

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-So anything that's not eaten.

-So gone,

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-thrown away.

-No, yes, once it goes off the ward,

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it'll go down a waste disposal unit, anything that's left over.

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I was shocked to find, you know, and you saw, you know,

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40% of what we served today for lunch, just goes in the bin.

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-Yeah.

-And this happens at every hospital, every ward,

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every hospital around Britain.

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It depends on the type of ward that you've got. I mean,

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we're in acute hospitals, you have more people coming in and out,

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there's more people going into theatre...

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-Yeah, it's difficult to cater obviously for numbers.

-So, cos,

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a consultant come on the ward this morning and make five patients nil by mouth,

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-while we're portioning up the food downstairs.

-And that's it.

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-So you, you've got to have a certain cut-off time.

-Absolutely.

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-Where can you say, well we can't.

-But it's still, it's still 35% of it.

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There was a lot there, there was a lot there actually.

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The patients order a day in advance and although I understand the need for a cut-off time for the food to

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leave the kitchen, I'm horrified at the amount of taxpayers' money that's literally going into the bin.

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For me to be able to improve the food at Scarborough General Hospital

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I need to discover what ingredients have been used,

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and where they're being sourced from.

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The hospital is surrounded by some of the finest and most fertile farming land in the UK,

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and the fresh produce from here is fantastic.

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But like most NHS Trusts,

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those with the purchasing power aren't looking

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on their own doorstep.

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Pat's order books have all the evidence I need.

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270 pints of semi-skimmed in every day.

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60 pints of full cream in every day and the probably round about.

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I mean, it's a big five star hotel.

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70 dozen yoghurts a week.

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Yeah, budget for, for, just for the dairy.

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-Yeah.

-OK. Where does this come from?

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This comes from Normanton.

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Normanton is over 70 miles from the hospital.

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Surely there's somewhere closer in a rich farming area like this,

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but the dairy product supplier isn't the only surprise.

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And the fish, where does that come from, cos we're right by the coast? Where's that?

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Some of it comes from Somerset.

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Some of it comes from Bradford.

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Well-known place near the coast, Bradford.

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I can't accept that it's not cheaper to source products locally,

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'so what are they actually buying?'

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Lot of soup here.

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Well, we have to use 14 flavours of soup a week cos we

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have one on at a lunchtime and one on at supper time every single day.

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We've got a basic tin provisions, so tinned tomatoes, chopped tomatoes, plum tomatoes, beans, tin of tuna,

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-spaghetti hoops we use for the creche in the children's ward.

-OK.

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And then we've got a canned fruits, this side, so.

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Is it, is it the reason why we have tinned fruit is,

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is it for any reason or, or not?

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Well, we have to have fruit on the menu every day but we use tinned fruit,

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we only use tinned fruit in natural juice, we don't use it in syrup.

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-Yeah.

-Cos then it caters for the patients who are on special diets.

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So whips that we have, cold sweets,

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so they'll supplement our menus

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and they're suitable for diets as well.

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So are the dieticians happy with this?

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-Yes.

-Really?!

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Yes.

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If they weren't it wouldn't be on the menu.

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Now, I reckon your buying power is probably ten times more than any chef I know.

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-Right.

-How much are you spending a year, if you don't mind me asking, on food,

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-a year?

-Nearly half a million.

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-Half a million quid?

-Half a million,

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roughly, on provisions.

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That's a lot of money you get to spend, isn't it?

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'I don't think Pat realises just how strong her purchasing power is,

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'and what a difference to the local economy she could make by buying locally.'

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Right and out here, James, I've got my outside freezer.

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Looks like an air raid shelter, look at it.

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Well, it works anyway, it's freezing in here. OK. What's up here?

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We've got omelettes up here.

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-Omelettes?

-Omelettes.

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-In a freezer?

-In a freezer.

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-I've never seen...

-You've never seen a frozen omelette, James?

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No. And how much are these?

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I think they're about 25 pence each.

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-25p?

-Yeah.

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Most of the veg that goes on to the menu as a vegetable, stand-alone vegetable...is frozen.

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Right, well I'm off, I know I'm a Yorkshireman but it's too cold in here.

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-You're a wimp, James.

-Freezing.

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Everything's out of a tin, everything's out of packet,

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everything. All the veg are frozen,

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all the soups ready-made, all out of a packet and apparently they put two packets in to make it taste better.

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I'm starting to formulate my plan to transform the food here at Scarborough Hospital.

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Already I can see the need to simplify the menus by reducing the amount of dishes they cook,

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and focus on quality rather than quantity.

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I need to look at how to reduce the incredible amount of wastage on the wards.

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And I want to win over the hearts and minds of the staff

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and get them to cook fresh ingredients from local suppliers.

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'But before I make any drastic changes,

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'I need to sort out some of the basics.'

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Frozen beans take a minute to cook.

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They've been in there about ten minutes.

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How you doing, you all right?

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'There's limited cooking from scratch going on,

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'which must be a frustration for a highly skilled kitchen team.'

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The old boy there cooking the beans, the, the hotels where he's worked is amazing, you know, he's spent

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most of his life making fresh soup and preparing fresh veg and...

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and cooking it.

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And then he gets here and he's just putting frozen beans in a boiler

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and cooking it for ten minutes.

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What's crazy to me is the perfect solution is right under our nose.

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They've got a piece of kit in there, it's worth about ten grand,

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that is the best bit of kit

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in the kitchen to cook anything in.

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And it's not worked for ten years. And it'll cook,

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literally a tray of raw carrots in about 45 seconds.

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It's brilliant and it's not a microwave, nothing.

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It's superheated steam, it'll keep all the nutrients in there.

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It's a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant way of cooking.

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So we need that to work.

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The NHS doesn't throw money at catering departments

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like a lot of the big hotels and restaurants do.

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So I think it has actually been quite an eye opener for him this morning,

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-to see what equipment we have to work with.

-Deal, I'll do you a deal.

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-Yeah, go on then.

-Right?

-Yeah.

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If we achieve what you want, what you want and what I want,

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and we all leave here with a smile on our face, I will buy you

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a brand new machine to replace that.

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Ah James, ah, that's nice.

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And that's coming from a Yorkshireman, that.

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'I've only been here one day and there's been a huge amount to take on board.

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'The first thing I want to tackle

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'Pat about is simplifying their inefficient 21 day menu cycle.'

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I know that the menus last for three weeks, there's a three week cycle...

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but are people really staying here three weeks

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and do really people mind having a different choice every day for 21 days?

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Are you really bothered with that?

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In fact, the average length of stay is only four-and-a-half days

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so I want to reduce the menu cycle

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to just one week, but it can only happen if Pat gives me her full support.

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I really do genuinely believe a weekly menu works.

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I think a week is pushing it, James.

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I really, really... Trust me.

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-OK.

-Plus points is less ordering.

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-Yeah.

-Less waste,

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-better value.

-Yeah.

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Cos you'll get, you're buying in bigger, bigger quantities, better, you'll get a much better cost.

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You'll know exactly your food costs, much more regularly, and you

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can fluctuate that because of the, the seasons and everything else.

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And you can change the menu more often.

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I think the fresh vegetables that we make, we make our own soup.

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So all I'm asking is weekly, make our own soup and veg,

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that's it for the moment, nothing else.

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Well, I'm going to put your argument over to the rest of the team.

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-We have got a reputation for our hospital food.

-Yeah.

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And it's been good right, and I don't want them to feel...

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I know your reservations I, I realise that.

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I'm trying to help though. I'm not, I'm not trying to criticise.

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-No, I know that.

-I'm not trying to criticise.

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I don't want them to feel that though, because I think what

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they will come back and say to me is,

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he's only been here a day and he's going to chop the menu in two.

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I'm not...I'm not on about, "I've been here a day", I'm not on about...

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-I'm trying to make it easier for you.

-I know you are.

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-You've got...you've got hardly any equipment.

-I know.

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All right, I will come here and I will work, and if I've got to make

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bloody omelettes, I will make omelettes.

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I will help you as much as I can.

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And I'm trying to make it easier for you.

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But what I don't want them to feel, cos after today you've been in today,

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is that he's come in, you've agreed Pat to chop two thirds off the menu.

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I need to break that to them gently to say this is what we want to do.

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-Right, OK. I'll...

-Do, do you see where I'm coming from?

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I'll, let's, what about, offer them two weeks first, then?

0:21:050:21:08

I think that might be easier to accept.

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OK, I agree with you.

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-Deal?

-Deal.

-Hug?

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I know I'm asking Pat to implement big changes to her kitchen.

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I want her to simplify the menus and start cooking

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with more fresh ingredients, so I need to demonstrate to her

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that it's still possible even on her limited budget.

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Here in London I'm hoping a visit to a centre of excellence

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will open her eyes to see what can be achieved.

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So I'm here, right here in the centre of London at Brompton Hospital.

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Now, this place has won countless awards for their food

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and I, for one, am intrigued about how they've done it because they still keep within their budget.

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They've only got one 1p a day more to spend than they have

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in Scarborough, but they've managed to do organic, local produce.

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They try and get at least a third of their produce from a 50-mile radius around London.

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When you think about London prices,

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in particular for food, it's going to be a lot more expensive

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than it is in Scarborough.

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So I can't wait to find out

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and hopefully Pat and Sharon will enjoy it too, so fingers crossed.

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The Royal Brompton is a rarity amongst hospital trusts.

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They believe that their patients deserve good nutritious food

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to make their stay more pleasant and aid recovery.

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A specialist heart and lung hospital,

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it treats up to 300 patients at any one time.

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'Pat's equivalent is Mike Duckett.

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'Although he's pretty much the same amount to spend per patient as Pat, he uses fresh local ingredients

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'and cooks everything from scratch on site.

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'He can afford to do this by supplementing his budget with

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'the profit he makes from his successful on-site public restaurant.'

0:22:530:22:57

So you're looking forward to it?

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'I think Pat and Sharon can learn a lot from this model, so I'm hoping Mike will be able to inspire them.'

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-Right, welcome to the kitchen, ladies.

-Thank you.

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And, and the kitchen is based on a hotel kitchen, so here we've got

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the pastry section, and Louis our pastry chef makes all the pastries, sponges that sort of thing.

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So today he made the apple flan, and he's at the moment making the scones for the afternoon tea.

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-Oh, they look nice, don't they?

-They look good, don't they, girls?

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They do, yeah, very good. So how many staff have you got, chefs-wise?

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Chefs, we've got nine with the head chef.

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'I think Pat was expecting more than that.'

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And we have our own chiller unit.

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30% of what we purchase is either local, organic,

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or is local to the South East.

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-It would be nice to have our own veg fridge, wouldn't it?

-Yeah, that size, yeah.

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'Rather than from a chiller,

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'most of Pat's vegetables come from a freezer.'

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This is the pasta boiler we use for our vegetables, so they're blanched then taken out.

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-There's nothing worse that overcooked vegetables.

-No, there isn't, no.

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We don't use any of the tinned or powder soups

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because they're just flavoured water really,

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there's no value in those at all, absolute waste of time, yeah.

0:24:140:24:17

-I haven't prompted him to say anything!

-No!

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I know you're looking at the packet of margarine, but that's not...

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I was looking at sunflower spread portions at the top there, James.

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It's fine, but the ethos as it is, I think what we, what I, wanted you

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to come here and see, particularly with Mike,

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his whole ethos of fresh ingredients.

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-Ingredients, yeah.

-We can still do it under budget, we can still do that.

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It's just how it works and how we generate other income from other things, to help you out really.

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The hospital kitchen also supplies food to the on-site restaurant

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which generates a very healthy income stream.

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It has more than doubled in the last ten years to a staggering £1.2 million,

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and any profit it generates goes straight back into the kitchens.

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Something that's definitely worth looking at, at Scarborough.

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The food here looks amazing but does it really live up to its reputation?

0:25:060:25:11

-That duck looks gorgeous.

-And I'm going to dive into my Welsh lamb.

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And I'm going to put my butter on my bread.

0:25:150:25:17

How many have you got?!

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Three! He's done that on purpose.

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-I have paid for it.

-He's done that on purpose.

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But you must get people come in here to eat, though.

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Yeah, we try and encourage as many people in Chelsea

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to come here because it's taxpayers money, you know.

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Yeah, and at the end of the day the more customers you get, the better profit you make.

0:25:340:25:39

Asparagus soup.

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Oh, that's gorgeous.

0:25:430:25:45

Today's made me feel like we do need to change a few things,

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even though we do get positive feedback

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at the hospital, but we could make that even better, improve things more.

0:25:500:25:54

So yeah, I'd like to turn the menus round a little bit.

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We both had the same patient meal cost, so it was interesting to see what he was using.

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There's things that we can change on our menu, virtually instantly.

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The staff menus were, were quite intriguing, really,

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and they have the show with the chef carving the meat and whatever.

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That, that was lovely to see

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and we'd love to do something spectacular like that at Scarborough.

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Inspired by a trip to the Royal Brompton I think Scarborough

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is really missing a trick with its own restaurant.

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It caters for both staff and visitors but at the moment, it's not attracting many customers.

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Only around 25% of staff actually eat here and most visitors don't even know it's open to the public.

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There are no signs advertising anywhere to go,

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so I presumed there wasn't anywhere.

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A lot of us do tend to go over to the baguette shop because you get more of a selection,

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the baguettes are a lot nicer than normal plain sandwiches now and again.

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A high number of staff use a local baguette shop instead of

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spending their money here in the hospital restaurant.

0:27:060:27:09

But I think with simple marketing and providing the staff and visitors with a better choice,

0:27:090:27:13

by my calculations the hospital restaurant could potentially make £1,500 per day.

0:27:130:27:20

I just need to persuade Pat and her boss Richard Vincent, to consider some changes.

0:27:200:27:26

If I put a big blackboard there.

0:27:260:27:29

With daily, put it with chalk on there,

0:27:290:27:32

you can have a lovely tureen of soup in the background, homemade soup.

0:27:320:27:36

And we address this salad bar.

0:27:360:27:38

-Yeah.

-And let's go for stuff like couscous salads.

0:27:380:27:41

-Yeah.

-You know, we'll spice up the couscous salads.

0:27:410:27:43

And what I'd like to do on here,

0:27:430:27:45

I'd like to do a roast every day. Are you happy with that?

0:27:450:27:48

I like the idea of a carved roast cos I think it's a show piece, yes,

0:27:480:27:51

I think that's really, really nice.

0:27:510:27:53

This then becomes a restaurant,

0:27:530:27:56

it doesn't become just a place for staff to eat.

0:27:560:28:00

It becomes somewhere that,

0:28:000:28:02

because I believe this is probably the only place that we've got to generate

0:28:020:28:06

-a good income.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:28:060:28:09

'The food that's served here is the same as the patients' menu, but does it taste better?'

0:28:090:28:15

Well, there we go, I've had my lunch and...

0:28:160:28:19

yeah, it's what I expected really, I suppose.

0:28:190:28:22

A simple baked potato with packet sauces is hardly a meal.

0:28:220:28:26

The dessert, I was really looking forward to that cherry bakewell

0:28:260:28:30

and then they smothered it with this sort of glow in the dark custard with the skin on it.

0:28:300:28:35

This really is a shop window for everything that we do and progress forward, and it's the only place

0:28:350:28:40

where we can generate income, to get the equipment fixed, to serve better food and everything else.

0:28:400:28:45

So we've got to make this look a little bit more appetising than what it is here.

0:28:450:28:49

And then, let's face it, to have a restaurant that's named after

0:28:490:28:53

a hair-lipped Viking is not really a good start, is it, really?

0:28:530:28:57

But before I can do anything, I want to win the hearts and the minds of the team.

0:28:570:29:01

The first thing, I walked in here, you guys are doing an unbelievable job.

0:29:010:29:06

The amount of people that you serve with the equipment that you've got, phenomenal.

0:29:060:29:09

This is a three week menu cycle that you've had on.

0:29:090:29:12

Now, I know Pat has her reservations over it and I'm pretty sure you probably might do.

0:29:120:29:18

Now what I'm trying to bring to the party

0:29:180:29:20

is that if we reduce the menu cycle down,

0:29:200:29:23

I want to go to a week.

0:29:230:29:24

I don't think that's a good idea, maybe a fortnight,

0:29:240:29:28

but when you've got patients in for several weeks at a time....

0:29:280:29:30

Right, right, have you spoken to the patients?

0:29:300:29:33

-No...

-Hold on a second.

0:29:330:29:36

You've been here 20 years and you've not spoken to a patient.

0:29:360:29:39

They can't remember, can you remember what you had last Tuesday?

0:29:390:29:42

-No, probably not.

-So what the hell are we doing, putting dishes on and thinking about a three week cycle?

0:29:420:29:48

The idea is we don't want people coming in here and living in here,

0:29:480:29:52

-we want them to get better.

-Yeah.

0:29:520:29:54

So they only way we can get better is that medicine's improved, in the last 20 years

0:29:540:29:58

that's the reason why people's stay has shortened.

0:29:580:30:01

Now, I think the food has stayed back 30 years ago.

0:30:010:30:06

How often do you change your three-week menus?

0:30:060:30:09

We never do, they haven't been changed for about ten years.

0:30:090:30:13

-Yeah, about nine, yeah.

-Nine years?

0:30:130:30:14

Right, if we keep a weekly menu cycle and change it three times a year, we can then get fresh veg.

0:30:140:30:21

We can buy better deals on stuff,

0:30:210:30:23

at a cheaper rate, so you're going to be doing fresh soup.

0:30:230:30:26

-All packet soup's banned.

-Yeah, I like the idea of that, actually.

-Yeah, and we'll do fresh soup.

0:30:280:30:32

So why don't we do it, why don't we try it?

0:30:320:30:34

There are still a substantial amount of people that are in for fortnight, three weeks...

0:30:340:30:38

These people, these people are ill,

0:30:380:30:40

they don't... You're fit and healthy, you're stood upright,

0:30:400:30:44

you might not be when I'm finished with you.

0:30:440:30:46

But you're stood upright and you're telling me that,

0:30:460:30:49

-that you can remember what you had for the last seven days.

-No, probably not.

0:30:490:30:54

So you're telling me that them lot in there have the same food?

0:30:540:30:57

I probably am, I probably am stuck in ways.

0:30:570:31:00

Cos you've been here 20 years, not once in 20 years have you gone out

0:31:000:31:03

-there and spoken to the customers.

-No, I don't get the opportunity.

0:31:030:31:06

-Is that cooking?

-No.

0:31:100:31:12

-What do you want?

-I want fresh, proper soup, I wouldn't mind doing that whatsoever.

0:31:120:31:17

And if I'm saying to you the only way we can do it is seven days,

0:31:170:31:20

do you want to go there?

0:31:200:31:21

Now if we go two weeks you use that, what do you want to do?

0:31:210:31:25

I'm all up for a bit of change cos I do think it needs it, when it comes to certain dishes on the menus.

0:31:250:31:29

You were asking me earlier that

0:31:290:31:32

compromise on two weeks. It's gone from that now, it's down to one.

0:31:320:31:37

Cos I've slept on it.

0:31:370:31:38

INAUDIBLE JOKE

0:31:390:31:40

I've slept on it.

0:31:440:31:46

It'll be great guys, honest to God, it'll be great.

0:31:460:31:48

-Well, you've got my support, then.

-It'll be great.

0:31:480:31:52

-Convinced?

-I'm convinced about the fresh thing and I'm willing to try the weekly thing.

0:31:520:31:56

Now I can go to sleep.

0:31:580:32:01

I ain't said yes, yet.

0:32:010:32:04

Another of my aims is for Pat to look at buying

0:32:070:32:10

more of produce closer to home, especially as the hospital

0:32:100:32:14

is located in the heart of some of the best farming land in the country.

0:32:140:32:18

Pat has control of a £500,000 food budget

0:32:180:32:23

and spends almost £80,000 on dairy produce alone, but rather than use a local dairy,

0:32:230:32:29

her milk comes from a huge multinational company which has branches all across the UK.

0:32:290:32:35

If she were to buy from farms on her doorstep, she may not only save precious pennies

0:32:350:32:40

but also give a huge boost to the local economy.

0:32:400:32:43

There's been a lot of talk about British dairy farming over recent years.

0:32:430:32:47

Not long ago there used to be 28,000 UK dairy farms,

0:32:470:32:50

that's just dropped to just under 11,000, with nine every single week going out of business.

0:32:500:32:55

If you don't support them, sights like this will be gone forever.

0:32:550:33:00

One farmer who went out of business is Michael Ricketson.

0:33:010:33:05

He took over his father's dairy farm 20 years ago and despite working seven days a week, all year long

0:33:050:33:12

without ever taking a day off, he still couldn't make ends meet.

0:33:120:33:15

About 18 months ago,

0:33:150:33:17

we were forced into the position where we had to make a decision,

0:33:170:33:22

and the decision was could we carry on producing milk at a loss?

0:33:220:33:29

The amount we were getting for a litre of milk at one stage dropped down to 16 pence.

0:33:290:33:36

Just latterly at the end it got to about 22 pence,

0:33:360:33:40

but at that particular time it was probably costing 26 pence to produce,

0:33:400:33:45

so it doesn't take a mathematician to work out that that's a no-brainer.

0:33:450:33:51

But if hospitals like Scarborough were sourcing their produce locally,

0:33:510:33:55

then Michael's dairy farm could potentially still be producing milk.

0:33:550:33:59

It was probably the most emotional day of my life

0:33:590:34:04

and there was certainly a tear in me eye at the end of the day

0:34:040:34:08

when some of me nicest pets left the farm.

0:34:080:34:15

The situation has become so dire that the average dairy farmer today makes just £20,000 a year

0:34:230:34:29

while working a 60-hour week.

0:34:290:34:32

Just one of the reasons why many have finally called it a day.

0:34:320:34:35

Now, sadly, stories like Michael's are commonplace throughout the UK and the farming community.

0:34:380:34:42

In a bid to stop that happening to producers right on Scarborough's doorstep,

0:34:420:34:46

the best way is to get the guys out of the kitchen

0:34:460:34:50

and to experience what it's like to produce and taste the produce right on their doorstep.

0:34:500:34:55

And I think by bringing them to a farm, they'll really understand how good and how cheap

0:34:550:35:00

and how local produce can really be.

0:35:000:35:03

Pat, her deputy catering manager Dawn, and chef Josie

0:35:060:35:09

are stuck within the four walls of the hospital

0:35:090:35:11

day in and day out, so I've brought them to the Acorn Dairy Farm in Darlington.

0:35:110:35:17

The farm has been run by the Tweddle family since 1928

0:35:170:35:21

and the only way they've survived this long is by adapting their farming methods.

0:35:210:35:26

Unable to compete with larger mass-producing dairy farms,

0:35:260:35:30

in the late 1990s, they decided to move away from intensive farming and go into the organic milk market.

0:35:300:35:36

The family set up their own processing plant,

0:35:380:35:41

and it's here that I want Pat and her team to have a look round first.

0:35:410:35:45

At the moment, Pat's milk comes from a large consortium of dairies and travels around 120 miles.

0:35:490:35:56

How long is it between, obviously, coming from the cow, from milking,

0:35:560:36:01

to in the container, out to the customers?

0:36:010:36:06

The milk that the guys are packing here today was in the cow last night.

0:36:060:36:11

OK?

0:36:110:36:12

What volume of milk do you process in a day?

0:36:120:36:17

Here, we are a small-scale dairy, OK? There are dairies out there

0:36:170:36:22

doing in an hour what we're doing in a week. A typical run in here would be about 20,000 litres.

0:36:220:36:28

That's still an awful lot, isn't it, yeah?

0:36:280:36:31

Now, one thing that I've found fascinating about this -

0:36:310:36:35

I've learnt something, the girls have learnt something

0:36:350:36:37

and I think it strikes a chord in Pat's mind that she's buying milk

0:36:370:36:41

and it's from 120 miles away, and it's a consortium. It's that mixture of all these different farms.

0:36:410:36:47

However, you've got somebody right on her doorstep who above all else is willing to cut their prices

0:36:470:36:53

to support the NHS and we get a better product. A win-win for everybody.

0:36:530:36:59

If we cut out the middle man, we're going to reduce the cost to a certain extent

0:37:050:37:09

and by reducing the cost in that way, by knocking out the middle man,

0:37:090:37:14

we might be able to improve the quality of what we're actually going to be using in the department.

0:37:140:37:19

-And what we're putting on the menus.

-Yeah, and that can only be good all the way round.

0:37:190:37:23

And keeping these people in business as well.

0:37:230:37:25

Yeah, I mean, why should they be importing milk in

0:37:250:37:29

from other countries?

0:37:290:37:31

When we've got farmers here who are going out of business,

0:37:310:37:34

that's absolutely ridiculous.

0:37:340:37:36

Having spent some time at Scarborough General Hospital,

0:37:390:37:42

I've now come up with a five-point plan

0:37:420:37:45

which I hope will lead to change.

0:37:450:37:47

But for my campaign

0:38:010:38:03

to be able to get off the ground, I need some investment from the Hospital Trust.

0:38:030:38:07

I've waited three weeks for this meeting

0:38:070:38:09

and I'm just about to meet the big boss of the Trust behind me,

0:38:090:38:13

and he's in charge of all the purse strings in the whole hospital,

0:38:130:38:17

so he dictates where all the money is spent and to be honest,

0:38:170:38:21

over the last 20 years, not a lot has been spent in that kitchen.

0:38:210:38:25

Hi there, Mike.

0:38:260:38:28

-Good to see you.

-Good to see you.

0:38:280:38:30

Now, Mike, you're the big boss here, would that be right?

0:38:340:38:37

-Allegedly, yeah.

-Allegedly.

0:38:370:38:39

-You haven't been here very long.

-No, about eight weeks.

0:38:390:38:42

Now, in terms of food, I've been round several hospitals.

0:38:420:38:47

Some are very positive when it comes to food,

0:38:470:38:49

some, dare I say, are last on the list when it comes to food.

0:38:490:38:53

I get the feeling that the front services get the lion's share,

0:38:530:38:58

the back services don't get any, to be honest.

0:38:580:39:02

And I think that's often the case

0:39:020:39:04

and one of the great things about you being here

0:39:040:39:06

is making us focus on food.

0:39:060:39:09

Cos it's very tempting as a chief executive of an organisation

0:39:090:39:12

just to simply think about clinical services

0:39:120:39:15

There's always something else you can spend your money on.

0:39:150:39:19

-I've not got a massive list here, and I'm not going to...

-OK.

0:39:190:39:22

Pat wants a new kitchen.

0:39:220:39:23

You can say yes or no. That'll be a no! OK...

0:39:230:39:26

She was promised one 19 years ago and she's still here -

0:39:260:39:30

I think she'll be here for another 19 years before it arrives.

0:39:300:39:33

What I propose to do is have a look at the restaurant.

0:39:330:39:36

I see that as a revenue stream that comes back into the catering budget.

0:39:360:39:40

Absolutely, yeah.

0:39:400:39:41

To help you, not go into your kitties, to help us fund

0:39:410:39:44

-in terms of equipment and everything else, it benefits everybody.

-Sure.

0:39:440:39:47

So first of all, do I have any money,

0:39:470:39:50

or am I fighting a losing battle in terms of blackboards, signage

0:39:500:39:53

to draw people into the restaurant?

0:39:530:39:56

Because at the moment, you walk round the hospital

0:39:560:39:59

-and there's nothing to say you've got a restaurant.

-OK.

0:39:590:40:01

But in terms of that, I see the only way we're going to do that

0:40:010:40:05

is to make it a bit more of an appealing place for people to go.

0:40:050:40:08

I don't think... Part of the problem is,

0:40:080:40:11

the financial problems in the organisation,

0:40:110:40:13

there's been a stasis about decisions about things like that

0:40:130:40:16

and I want to change that atmosphere.

0:40:160:40:18

I want to treat it like a business and if I can justify

0:40:180:40:21

-spending that money and bring you it in income, through feeding people...

-I'll be happy.

0:40:210:40:26

-Thank you very much.

-You're welcome.

-Deal done.

0:40:260:40:28

Hopefully I've given the hospital's new chief executive

0:40:300:40:33

plenty to think about.

0:40:330:40:34

I understand that Pat can't have a new kitchen,

0:40:340:40:37

but with the best will in the world, we won't able to improve the food here at Scarborough

0:40:370:40:42

unless they do something about the equipment,

0:40:420:40:44

which I reckon wouldn't look out of place on an Antiques Roadshow.

0:40:440:40:49

It's a defrosting cabinet

0:40:490:40:50

and instead of defrosting my fish, it actually cooked it.

0:40:500:40:54

-So we had to dispose of it.

-It cooked it?!

-It cooked it.

0:40:540:40:57

So this 16 years old. This was replaced in 1995.

0:40:570:41:03

When I came in this morning, the handle on the brack pan had come loose, so that they couldn't tilt it.

0:41:030:41:09

They couldn't twist it to tilt it.

0:41:090:41:11

-So, what happens if this thing breaks?

-We have one of two options.

0:41:110:41:15

You either take the dish off the menu,

0:41:150:41:17

or we have to cook food sooner, so we can cook it all in the one brack pan.

0:41:170:41:22

But then if we do that,

0:41:220:41:24

we'll get criticised by the environmental health officer

0:41:240:41:27

because we're cooking food too soon.

0:41:270:41:29

'I can't believe what I'm hearing, and it doesn't end there.'

0:41:290:41:33

So, the other thing, this is one of our large combination ovens

0:41:330:41:38

and if we were cooking joints in here

0:41:380:41:40

we would use an integral probe.

0:41:400:41:42

And once the centre...

0:41:420:41:44

How long has that been like that?

0:41:440:41:46

Two or three months.

0:41:460:41:49

-Months?

-Months.

0:41:490:41:51

Scarborough has an internal maintenance department,

0:41:520:41:55

but they look after the whole hospital, and, unfortunately,

0:41:550:41:59

the kitchen is way down on their list of priorities.

0:41:590:42:01

On my first visit, I discovered that the steamer hadn't worked for years.

0:42:010:42:05

But rather than get it repaired,

0:42:050:42:07

the maintenance team just condemned it and took it away.

0:42:070:42:11

That's the thing that happens in the health service.

0:42:130:42:16

You don't have, like, every five or ten years you have a refit.

0:42:160:42:19

Our things get replaced,

0:42:190:42:20

well, basically, when they come to the end of their working life.

0:42:200:42:24

To me, it's kind of common sense

0:42:240:42:27

-that the maintenance of it is the most crucial thing.

-Mm-hmm.

0:42:270:42:30

Because if you don't maintain it...

0:42:300:42:32

it's never going to work, is it?

0:42:320:42:34

It does amaze me, to be honest.

0:42:340:42:38

I mean, it is actually no wonder

0:42:380:42:40

they had a report and the environmental health gave them a demand

0:42:400:42:45

that they had to fix the floor.

0:42:450:42:47

And that's why they're in the situation that they're in at the moment.

0:42:470:42:50

Because otherwise, they were going to shut the hospital kitchen down.

0:42:500:42:54

It's just...

0:42:540:42:57

I'm astonished that head chef Sharon and her team of chefs

0:43:030:43:07

are currently able to provide 1,000 meals every day from this kitchen.

0:43:070:43:12

So, what changes have you seen over the years, Sharon?

0:43:130:43:16

Erm...changes?

0:43:160:43:19

The hospital's got bigger, but the kitchen's the same size, you know?

0:43:190:43:22

This kitchen was built in 1930,

0:43:220:43:25

when the hospital was doing 150 patients a day.

0:43:250:43:29

But since then, the hospital has doubled in size

0:43:290:43:33

and they now have to feed around 300 patients every day.

0:43:330:43:37

I feel sorry for them. If this is all they've got to work with,

0:43:370:43:40

then it's kind of fighting a losing battle, isn't it?

0:43:400:43:43

How old is this?

0:43:440:43:45

Again, that's been here before I arrived, which is, er...

0:43:450:43:49

-Before you arrived?!

-Yeah, a few years, yeah!

0:43:490:43:52

It's my favourite piece of equipment.

0:43:520:43:54

It's your favourite piece of equipment?

0:43:540:43:56

It's like a poop scoop!

0:43:570:43:59

Up to now, spending money on the hospital kitchen hasn't been seen as crucial,

0:44:010:44:05

so I'm pleased that after my initial meeting,

0:44:050:44:08

Mike Proctor is now due to meet the catering team

0:44:080:44:11

for the very first time.

0:44:110:44:13

Well, I think you'd need...

0:44:130:44:14

To do what they want to do -

0:44:140:44:16

particularly to do what the Trust want to do upstairs -

0:44:160:44:19

you're probably looking at 20, 30 grand, I have to say.

0:44:190:44:23

So, fingers crossed.

0:44:260:44:29

How are you doing, matey?

0:44:290:44:30

-Hi, nice to see you again.

-Are you all right?

-I'm good thanks. How are you?

-Very good.

-Good morning?

0:44:300:44:33

Very good. Shall I get... Is this good news or is this bad news?

0:44:330:44:37

Shall we gather people around?

0:44:370:44:39

Do you want to gather the troops?

0:44:390:44:41

Hi there. Hi there. Hi.

0:44:420:44:44

Hi, everybody. Pleased to meet you. My name's Mike Proctor, I'm chief executive here.

0:44:440:44:49

I've been involved in, and really interested in the work that James has been talking to you about.

0:44:490:44:55

He came to see me last week

0:44:550:44:57

and had lots of ideas about how to make things better.

0:44:570:45:00

But one of the things he needed from us is for us to spend a little bit of money on that

0:45:000:45:04

to actually improve that.

0:45:040:45:06

So, myself and James Haywood, who's director of facilities,

0:45:060:45:10

have been to see the director of finance.

0:45:100:45:12

We've turned him upside down, picked his back pocket and we've been able to put together £5,000

0:45:120:45:17

for you to actually use on this project, OK?

0:45:170:45:22

Great stuff. Let's use it wisely, eh?

0:45:220:45:24

-Yeah.

-Let's see what we can do, OK? Thanks.

0:45:240:45:28

-Thank you very much.

-Cheers. No problem. Thank you.

0:45:280:45:31

Thank you. Right, back to work, troops.

0:45:310:45:34

Could have put another zero on the end of it!

0:45:340:45:37

That's next... But, you never know, we'll do our best.

0:45:370:45:40

We'll do our best. It's a start. It is a start.

0:45:400:45:42

It's kind of made my job a whole lot harder, hasn't it, really?

0:45:440:45:47

Five grand?

0:45:490:45:50

I know you've only been here eight weeks, but I want you to understand what these guys go through.

0:46:050:46:09

I'm gobsmacked that they do this for 26 years, day in, day out,

0:46:090:46:15

constantly, and they've still got a smile on their face.

0:46:150:46:18

It's just, any one of my guys would just go...

0:46:180:46:22

"Get stuffed." And walk out.

0:46:220:46:24

The five grand is a starter, right?

0:46:240:46:26

I know it's a starter, but it ain't going to switch a switch in there.

0:46:260:46:29

And it's to do the stuff that you came and asked me about doing.

0:46:290:46:33

-Yeah.

-Absolutely happy about that.

-Well, what I'm proposing is,

0:46:330:46:37

if we're going to spend that five-grand budget...

0:46:370:46:39

This is what happens in a hospital down south that I think works.

0:46:390:46:44

If we spend that five-grand budget upstairs,

0:46:440:46:47

it's only fair for us, we're working out to make that work,

0:46:470:46:51

that the money from that and the proceeds from it

0:46:510:46:53

-go back into here to make this work.

-Yes.

0:46:530:46:56

I've got good reason to believe this funding model can work.

0:46:560:47:00

Despite having a similar patient food budget, the Royal Brompton Hospital in London

0:47:000:47:04

provides high-quality, nutritious food

0:47:040:47:07

and pays for this by reinvesting profits from their restaurant into the kitchen.

0:47:070:47:12

And I'm hoping Mike will let us use any of the profits we make in the same way.

0:47:120:47:15

In principle, in terms of the profits that are made,

0:47:170:47:21

the increased profits certainly that are made, but the overall...

0:47:210:47:24

-No, not the increased profits.

-Well...

-The only way that this would work.

-Yeah.

0:47:240:47:28

And to make it beneficial for these guys and everything, and the whole project to work...

0:47:280:47:33

That is how I envisaged it to work, because it works at Brompton Hospital.

0:47:330:47:37

You get better. The whole ethos of the food at Scarborough General Hospital gets better - everything.

0:47:370:47:44

But to be able to afford to do that,

0:47:440:47:46

I have to have a revenue stream coming in elsewhere

0:47:460:47:48

from the £3.49 we get at the moment.

0:47:480:47:52

'Without proper investment,

0:47:520:47:53

'this campaign could fall at the first hurdle.'

0:47:530:47:56

What can you do with five grand in a commercial kitchen?

0:47:580:48:02

Apart from buy a few ladles and...

0:48:040:48:06

..and get one of the machines fixed? But it's...

0:48:080:48:12

..certainly not made my life any easier.

0:48:140:48:17

HOLDING BACK TEARS We'll get there

0:48:240:48:26

and we'll implement those menus if it's the last thing that we do.

0:48:260:48:30

With only limited funds available from the Hospital Trust,

0:48:360:48:39

it becomes vital for us to crack on with the new menus.

0:48:390:48:43

They don't only need to appeal to the patients on the wards,

0:48:430:48:47

but also the paying public and the hospital staff

0:48:470:48:49

as generating a profit from the restaurant

0:48:490:48:52

is key to making my plan work.

0:48:520:48:55

I've got lots of ideas, so I've gathered together Pat, head chef Sharon,

0:48:550:49:00

dietician Rachael Bumby

0:49:000:49:02

and Denis Smith, who's responsible for liaising with all the hospital's suppliers

0:49:020:49:06

to work out exactly which dishes we should go for.

0:49:060:49:10

I don't think veg chilli and an omelette is a good combination.

0:49:110:49:15

-It would have to go down here.

-Yeah, I think you ought to mix it.

-Bolognese, we do that one.

0:49:150:49:20

-We've got lasagne on Thursday. Where's the other one? We've got...

-Bolognese here and then do a pasta.

0:49:200:49:25

Pasta on Saturday.

0:49:250:49:27

A vegetable penne pasta.

0:49:270:49:29

-Cheese and mushroom quiche flies out.

-We've got baked gammon, so that's relatively low-fat.

0:49:290:49:33

-Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

-I'd like to see creamed mash potato, I'd like to see carrots.

0:49:330:49:38

I'd like to see beans, but I'd like to see fresh carrots and beans.

0:49:380:49:41

We've had to come up with 14 soups and 35 main dishes

0:49:450:49:48

that all meet the dietician's strict nutritional criteria.

0:49:480:49:51

They have to appeal to a wide range of patients

0:49:510:49:54

and contain the right blend of vitamins and minerals.

0:49:540:49:58

It's been a challenge replacing all that packet soup,

0:49:580:50:01

but we're managed to do it with fresh homemade ones like butternut squash and lime,

0:50:010:50:04

and cauliflower and apple.

0:50:040:50:06

For the main courses, I'm opting for dishes that will endure the journey from the kitchen to the ward

0:50:070:50:13

and still be nutritious and palatable.

0:50:130:50:15

They'll have to withstand sitting for hours in hot cabinets and being superheated.

0:50:150:50:20

So I've replaced dishes like chicken pasta and lamb stew

0:50:200:50:23

with my chicken and leek bake, and a healthy, tasty Mediterranean roasted vegetable couscous.

0:50:230:50:30

I'm enhancing the dessert menu by adding more homemade comfort dishes,

0:50:300:50:35

like my signature dish, sticky toffee pudding.

0:50:350:50:37

Also on the list is treacle tart, and scones with jam and cream.

0:50:370:50:43

Today's been a mixed day of highs and lows.

0:50:490:50:51

The highs - I'm really pleased we've got the menu done. Thank God, to be honest!

0:50:510:50:55

It's now seven days,

0:50:550:50:56

because it took long enough just to get the seven days of dishes on the menu,

0:50:560:51:02

let alone three weeks.

0:51:020:51:04

I think they've finally come round to the fact that that's going well.

0:51:040:51:07

The lows have been Mike. I was very, very surprised that all we got was five grand.

0:51:070:51:11

It's a month into the project, and we've finally agreed

0:51:150:51:17

which dishes to put on to the menus.

0:51:170:51:20

But before we can we can get down to the serious business

0:51:200:51:23

of cooking good, tasty, healthy and nutritious food,

0:51:230:51:26

there's just one last hurdle to get over -

0:51:260:51:29

the Hospital Trust.

0:51:290:51:30

Without their support, it could still all come to nothing,

0:51:300:51:34

so I've decided to invite the key players along to Scarborough Catering College

0:51:340:51:38

so they can taste my new dishes alongside

0:51:380:51:40

what is currently served to the patients.

0:51:400:51:42

For starters, it's soup, a vital part of my plan

0:51:450:51:49

for the new menus. Served up for lunch and dinner,

0:51:490:51:51

it's one food that patients are likely to eat when they're not feeling well,

0:51:510:51:56

so I think it needs to be as nutritious and tasty as possible.

0:51:560:52:00

'From the current hospital menu, we have packet vegetable soup,

0:52:050:52:09

'which is high in additives and salt,

0:52:090:52:12

'but low in protein and vitamins.'

0:52:120:52:13

OK, you can take that out, please?

0:52:130:52:16

'I'm proposing we swap it for a homemade version.

0:52:160:52:19

'Today, I've made butternut squash soup, which is low in fat,

0:52:190:52:22

'high in fibre and packed full of antioxidants.'

0:52:220:52:26

Up for the taste challenge are Mike Proctor,

0:52:280:52:30

the hospital's chief executive,

0:52:300:52:33

James Hayward, director of facilities,

0:52:330:52:35

ultimately responsible for the catering department.

0:52:350:52:38

Leo McGrory, who lobbies on behalf of the patients

0:52:380:52:43

and hospital dietician Rachel Bumby.

0:52:430:52:46

'First up is the packet soup.'

0:52:520:52:55

What does it taste of?

0:53:010:53:03

-It tastes floury.

-It's very floury.

0:53:030:53:06

It looks like porridge.

0:53:060:53:07

'Next it's the turn of my butternut squash soup.'

0:53:070:53:11

-It's really nice.

-Very nice.

0:53:180:53:21

How do the two dishes compare in costing?

0:53:210:53:24

'My fresh soups are more expensive.'

0:53:240:53:26

On average, 25p rather than 9p per person

0:53:260:53:30

but by cutting down on menu options and buying in bulk,

0:53:300:53:34

I think we'll be able to find the extra money.

0:53:340:53:37

'Moving onto the main course, from the hospital menu,

0:53:370:53:40

'we have chicken and tomato pasta,

0:53:400:53:42

'which has a tendency to dry out after it's been held

0:53:420:53:45

'in a hot cabinet for hours and then superheated.'

0:53:450:53:48

'There's silence. I don't think it's a big hit with the panel.

0:53:490:53:54

'Hopefully my roasted vegetable couscous with chicken

0:53:540:53:58

'will fare better with the critics.'

0:53:580:54:00

I think that main course is delicious.

0:54:050:54:08

If you were eating out some evening and you had that,

0:54:080:54:12

-you would say that was very, very nice.

-If you could get that for £3

0:54:120:54:15

-in the dining room...

-You'd jump at it.

-There'd be a queue.

0:54:150:54:18

Absolutely. And I think that to a patient,

0:54:180:54:21

there's no comparison to me between the two dishes.

0:54:210:54:25

But quality does cost. My couscous with chicken is 90p

0:54:250:54:29

whereas the chicken pasta

0:54:290:54:31

works out at only 46p per portion.

0:54:310:54:34

I mean, from a chef's point of view, I came to this college myself,

0:54:340:54:39

so we've all got the skills and we'd love to cook

0:54:390:54:42

with ingredients like this, but it's always been down to budget.

0:54:420:54:46

'Someone had to bring it up.

0:54:460:54:48

'It's time to tackle the real reason for this dinner.'

0:54:480:54:51

James has got to pressurise the chief exec

0:54:510:54:54

and the director of facilities

0:54:540:54:57

for that extra funding, and we need to get a commitment out of them.

0:54:570:55:00

Well, there's going to be some mileage in what they say

0:55:000:55:03

-if we reduce the number of...

-Yeah.

-..menus and we reduce the menu cycle,

0:55:030:55:07

buy bigger in bulk, there's got to be some cost...

0:55:070:55:10

There is, but the only way that this works

0:55:100:55:12

and has worked anywhere else is this self-funding itself.

0:55:120:55:16

And at the moment, I just feel

0:55:160:55:19

for too long it's been left.

0:55:190:55:21

If we don't get the commitment and they're not willing to put the money

0:55:210:55:25

back into the department,

0:55:250:55:27

then the whole project could just fall flat on its face.

0:55:270:55:31

At the end of the day, this is why I came on board.

0:55:310:55:33

The only way we'll change stuff is if you get off your backside

0:55:330:55:36

and do something about it.

0:55:360:55:38

The next step, the next level we want to get is great food, not good food.

0:55:380:55:41

Yeah, and the only way that they can achieve it

0:55:410:55:44

is by having a little bit more money in the kitty.

0:55:440:55:46

-I mean, with...

-Yeah, well that needs a discussion between you two.

0:55:460:55:50

It does, actually.

0:55:500:55:52

I feel I've really put everything I possibly can... No, don't start now.

0:55:520:55:57

I get upset because

0:56:010:56:03

we've all put our heart and souls into this project,

0:56:030:56:07

but I know deep down if we all pull together,

0:56:070:56:09

we can do this.

0:56:090:56:12

All of it, all comes back into the kitty.

0:56:120:56:15

-Well, what we've got to be careful of...

-I've put you on the spot here.

0:56:150:56:19

What you've got to remember is the disagreement between me and you

0:56:190:56:23

is not whether this is a good idea, it's how much we can plough back in.

0:56:230:56:27

-I understand that.

-And that's where I'm with you on it.

0:56:270:56:30

I want to plough as much of it back,

0:56:300:56:32

but I don't want to do it on the basis

0:56:320:56:33

that then, looking at the books, I've got to go and find

0:56:330:56:37

somebody else to sack to do it.

0:56:370:56:38

But I do agree that,

0:56:380:56:40

certainly in the next 12 months for starters,

0:56:400:56:45

any underspend that you've got in the budget ought to be retained with you

0:56:450:56:48

-to plough back into this.

-And the restaurant.

0:56:480:56:51

I'm leaving!

0:56:510:56:53

I never, ever thought,

0:56:530:56:55

ever in my life, I would sit here and hear a chief exec say to me

0:56:550:56:59

that any underspend I make on my budget

0:56:590:57:02

will stay within my department.

0:57:020:57:03

Well, I think at the moment...

0:57:030:57:05

I'd come over and kiss you if I wasn't so far away, Mike.

0:57:050:57:09

We can't afford to ignore this stuff and I'm really keen to do something.

0:57:090:57:13

I think today was a positive step and a massive step forward.

0:57:150:57:20

To get the chief exec to actually commit to bring some money

0:57:210:57:25

back into the catering department, rather than put it

0:57:250:57:28

in the central pot, I think is just absolutely amazing.

0:57:280:57:31

I just can't believe that he's managed that.

0:57:310:57:33

I've said from the start, he's got an amazing way

0:57:330:57:35

of persuading people to do what he wants,

0:57:350:57:38

even though we don't always agree with it.

0:57:380:57:40

Don't tell him I said that, will you?

0:57:400:57:43

'Next time, as we fine tune the recipes,

0:57:470:57:50

'Pat keeps putting obstacles in my way.'

0:57:500:57:53

Pork tenderloin, that's way over.

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I'm not even putting it on.

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'And she finds my dishes are not up to her exacting standards.'

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I think that's a bit wet for moussaka?

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Well, isn't it too thin, though?

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'As the big day finally arrives, stress levels hit their peak.'

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What we're doing is for the benefit of the patients,

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and that's what I set my heart to do

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when I started with this job 30 years ago.

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So I hope we succeed.

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