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This lovely bungalow on a lagoon in Kerala has been my base | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
while I've been cooking dishes that come from all over India. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
Dishes like this spicy Keralan pork curry. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
And this dead-easy-to-do paneer jalfrezi. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
And my very own British Raj curry from Madras. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:24 | |
Oh, and there's a lovely egg curry from Calcutta. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
I mean Kolkata. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
And these shami kebabs from Lucknow. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
You'll probably gather from my tone that it'll soon be time to leave. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
This will be my last programme in this fabulous country. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Good morning, Ashok. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
Good morning, Rick. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
'In short, this trip to India has been, I think, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
'the best trip I've ever had in filming land.' | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
And the curries have been pretty good, too. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
First-class curry, Ricky! | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
-MAN: -That's a mind-blasting curry, Ricky! | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
There's a snake down there, in the water pipe. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
I think it lives in there. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
It's not poisonous... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
I'm told. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
I certainly ain't going for a swim. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Apart from worrying about where the snake - called Cynthia - was, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
life at the bungalow was good, especially when we stopped for lunch. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
We'd all sit outside, under the palm trees | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
and Malli would cook for us effortlessly. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
She'd make about five or six curries, mostly vegetarian. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
But this was our favourite, her prawn curry. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
CAMERA CLICKS | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Ashok, whose bungalow it is, can't stop taking photographs. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
First of all, Malli, his cook, fries onions, green chillies and minced ginger. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
It's very important to spend some time softening the onions | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
because this slow cooking brings out their sweetness. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
And then she puts in chilli powder, turmeric and ground pepper. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
Next, the prawns - freshwater prawns. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
They're really plentiful here. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
As, indeed, now they are in supermarkets back home. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Ashok, I just wonder if you could ask Mallika | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
if she knows what the word curry means, has it got any meaning to her? | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
ASHOK TRANSLATES QUESTION | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
REPLIES IN LOCAL DIALECT | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
Normally, when you say curry in the real sense, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
it's like, you know, a little gravy with it. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
And there are other methods of doing it, too, which is frying. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
-Yeah. -And? | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
MALLIKA SPEAKS IN LOCAL DIALECT | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Yeah, this particular dish is with gravy. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
Yeah. So this is a proper curry. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
It's a proper curry. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Interestingly, we've given them the word "gravy" in exchange for the word "curry". | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Now she puts in fresh chopped tomatoes and a generous spoonful of salt. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
It's her quantities, not mine, so please don't write in! | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
Then water and a generous handful of curry leaves, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
one of the most important ingredients in South Indian curries. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
I have to confess, I tried doing this with tinned tomatoes | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
and I'm sorry, it just doesn't work. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
It turns out too sweet and gloopy, so fresh and astringent it is. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
Before I came to India, people said, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
"Well, they won't understand in India what you mean by curry, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
"it's not a word they use." But they do. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
-You do understand what I mean! -Of course we do. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
And there it is, looking every inch the film crew's favourite lunch. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
And it's pretty obvious why. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
So let's not hang around. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
-Let me try that. -Mmm! | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
It's... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
very spicy! | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
I think the thing we get wrong in the West is we don't put enough spice in. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Isn't this too much? Or is it...? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
No, not at all, it's lovely! | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
So will you ask her if she's happy with her own curry? | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
Happy? Sure. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
It's very good! | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
LAUGHS | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Well, I've been in India for quite a few weeks now | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
and, um, the more I'm here, the more confused I become about curry. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:10 | |
I started off with this determination | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
to find the perfect curry. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
But now I find - what is curry? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Is it... Is it just a gravy, or is it a sort of way of life? | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
Because I used to think, in reading books, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
that the Indians really didn't understand what we mean by curry, but they do! | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
They understand perfectly. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
I think it's passed into the general vernacular | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
and, I must say, I've been very well helped | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
in my sort of attempts to find out what curry is | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
by this book by Lizzie Collingham, called Curry. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Basically, it encompasses everything about curry and I think it's an attitude. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
I think... I'm not looking for lots of gravy and lots of spice, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:56 | |
I'm looking for a perfect spicy experience. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
CAR HORNS BLARE | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
This is the town of Madurai, a day's drive from Kerala. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
It's a famous merchants' town | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
and their ancestors traded with the ancient Greeks and the Romans. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
But, over the centuries, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
the merchants, more or less, traded with anybody interested in spice. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
And out of it emerged their own cuisine. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
They call it Chettinad cooking. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
I felt I was in the India of my imagination, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
from the days when I used to look at old sepia photographs | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
in encyclopaedias that were falling apart, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
full of men with pith helmets and elephants carrying teak logs. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
The ancient Meenakshi Temple here could and probably did feature in one of them. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
There's a sign there that my guide told me said, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
"Feed your soul first and then feed yourself." | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
I think, over here, that speaks reams, because the longer I spend in India, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
the more I realise that food is intertwined with compassion | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
and caring for others, especially at the temples. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
And it doesn't matter about caste or creed - | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
all are welcome to sit down, to eat and pray, if they wish, afterwards. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
I'm told, without this system, provided by the various temples throughout India, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
many inevitably would go without. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
But no-one from my viewpoint in this particular batch seemed undernourished. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
Virtually all the meals I had in Madurai were made with vegetables alone | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
and I realised I could easily be a vegetarian here. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I loved going to the not-so-Modern Restaurant | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
and seeing unfeasibly large pots of vegetable stew they call sambar, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
made with yellow mung beans, tomatoes and a whole host of spices. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:01 | |
And the lovely tarka - fried in ghee - they put on the top is irresistible. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
This is the only thing they serve here, but everybody loves it, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
everybody has the same thing. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
I imagine probably half of India eats like this, all vegetarian. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:23 | |
And, certainly in Southern India, everybody eats off a banana leaf. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
It's the most perfect vehicle for eating off, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
because, when you've finished, you just fold the banana leaf up | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
with anything that's left and throw it away. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
But you don't throw it away into the garbage. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
You throw it away for the cows. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:41 | |
And one of the things I've learned while being in India | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
is that home cooking is what everybody wants, and I mean everybody. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
That's businessmen with fat wallets, down to the local chai wallah. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
They all want the flavour of home. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
And a local five-star hotel has employed a housewife from an outlying village | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
to create home-cooked dishes in their stainless-steel kitchens. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
So, when Mrs Samundeswari has finished her morning chores at home, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
she uses her skills, handed down from her grandmother, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
to cook authentic food for the discerning customer. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
CAR HORNS BLARE | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
I must say, I think this is a really good idea, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
because to be able to actually get a seriously good home cook | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
and set her up in a kitchen like this, cooking her dishes from home, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
I think is a tremendous bit of salesmanship. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Today's local speciality is Chettinad chicken. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
Mrs Samundeswari starts off with oil, and that's flavoured with cinnamon bark, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
then fennel seeds and now this, kalpasi. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
It's a type of lichen. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
They all flavour the oil. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
And I suspect that it's the kalpasi that makes this dish unique. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
Now onions, and where there are onions, the curry leaves are not far behind. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
Next, garlic. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Bit of a stir... | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
..and then chicken. And she makes sure | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
every bit is coated with the flavoured oil. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
Now, a paste that's made up with fennel, cumin, pepper, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
garlic, chilli and coriander. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Followed by the powdered spices - | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
coriander, chilli, garam masala and pepper. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
It's a bit complicated! | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
It's one of the most complex dishes I've come across over here. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
And they call it home cooking?! | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
SPEAKS LOCAL DIALECT | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Well, I must say, this looks really interesting. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
I'm just amazed that she would cook such a complicated dish at home. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:06 | |
It sort of looks to me, I have to say, like hotel cooking. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
But I'm assured that she does cook like this at home, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
so who am I to say? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
I'm also very intrigued to try this kalpasi, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:23 | |
because when I read about it, it's actually the lichen | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
that comes off stones around here. When I first tried it, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
I thought I could probably get this off a stone off Bodmin Moor and dry it. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
And when I tasted it, it tasted of nothing. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
And then, this wonderful aroma came through. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
And every time I taste dishes with it in now, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
I think, "There's loads of cinnamon in that dish." | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
And then I think, "It's not quite cinnamon." | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
What it is is kalpasi. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Finally, some more garam masala and coriander leaf. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
And I hope that's it. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
Just the look of this curry pleases me enormously. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
And I love it being served on a banana leaf. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
With my cook's intuition, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I know this is going to be one of the best curries I've tasted so far. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
But I think when I write it up, I'll simplify it a little. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Wow! | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
That is very spicy. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
But incredibly good. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
You can taste all the ingredients in it. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
What I really like about it is it's quite dry. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
I know that's the wrong word, but there's not a lot of gravy, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
but what gravy there is is so pungent, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
and the taste of that kalpasi, the lichen, is wonderful in it. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
I'm going to crave that for ever more, I think. It's really good. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
You're not going to believe this, but a guest who is staying here | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
saw a tweet of mine and realised we were both staying at the same hotel. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
So you mean, you just saw me on Twitter? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Yes. And there is a tweet that you were in Chennai, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
and then I see that you're in Madurai. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
Well, I'm blowed. The power of Twitter! | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
'He turned out to be a serious foodie. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
'He's called Gunjan.' | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
I follow you, Rick, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
and one of the things I see is, "Rick's staying in Madurai." | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
And I sent a tweet to you immediately. And I must tell you, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
Rick, I have been coming to this hotel for the last four or five months, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
and the food that she cooks is better than the hotel management graduates, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
and, you know, the cooks that have all these catering schools. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
I think she cooks from the heart. And the food and the flavours | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
in that particular curry, or the Chettinad thing that she makes, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
is completely different | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
-than what you get from hotels. -Absolutely. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
One thing I've picked up all along is how much Indians love home cooking. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
So to have somebody cooking | 0:13:50 | 0:13:51 | |
-who cooks that sort of food... -I agree with you. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
I couldn't agree with you more, actually, because... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
take my mother, for example. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
-I have never seen her measure spices. -Yeah. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Putting the spices the way she wants to. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
-Not measuring them out or anything. -Not measuring them out. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
It's like, that's the way she cooks. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
And that's the way most of the home cooks work. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
And we go by standardised recipes - this much, this much, this one. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
I do some amateur cooking at home, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
and I just go exactly the way the ingredients go. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
The great thing is that there is no method in the madness of their cooking. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
I was sort of thinking, because she's just cooked me chicken Chettinad | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
in the kitchen, which was so spicy. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Really hot, with pepper as opposed to chilli, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
which I think is quite common here, isn't it? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
Around Madurai. And Chettinad. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
But I was just thinking, it would be really good to, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
actually in any hotel kitchen, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
to get really good domestic cooking there. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Because chefs are a bit, they cook in sort of chef school ways, you know? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
I know! And coming from you, Chef, it's slightly contradictory. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
But having said that, I would still say that, yes. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
I think it's an amazing concept, you know. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
What I love about you Indians is you're so enthusiastic about your food. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
It's just a joy, I must say. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
My mouth is already watering, I'm sorry! | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Good. Thanks. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
I can't go long, really, without seafood. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
And seeing a pretty plate of crabs in a local market | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
was the only excuse I needed to cook a famous Chettinad dish - | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
Chettinad crab. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
This is good finger-picking food. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
I wouldn't mind trying this back at home using our own brown crabs, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
or even spider crabs, with that lovely, sweet leg meat. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
First of all, to make a paste in my trusty blender, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
I add some fennel seeds, cumin seeds... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
some grated coconut and water. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
A quick whizz in my powerful Indian blender that weighs a tonne, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
and it comes out, thanks to the coconut, looking quite creamy. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
Meanwhile, in the karahi, I heat up some oil | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
and temper it with a good teaspoonful of fennel and fenugreek seeds. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
Next, some sliced onions and some chopped garlic. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:21 | |
Followed by the powdered spices - chilli powder, turmeric and coriander. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
Now for the crab bits. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Give them a serious stir, coating every bit of the crab with the flavoured oil. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
I love these curries. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
I just like eating with my fingers. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
There's nothing better than a pile of rice, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
maybe some nice bread as well, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
some naan bread, perhaps. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Maybe a glass of beer. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
Lots of chat and lots of picking. It's what I like. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
And, of course, you've got to have a nice bowl | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
to rinse your hands every now and then, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
but it's leisurely eating, which I adore. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
Next, curry leaves and fresh chopped tomato. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
Tomatoes in Kerala are so good. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Now, the coconutty paste, and I'll stir that around. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
And for a touch of tarty sourness, some tamarind, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
and a new one, kokum. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
That's a type of dried mangosteen, and it tastes beautifully smoky. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
Finally, just a bit of sweetness. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Jaggery is the juice from the sugar cane, boiled down so it becomes like a fudge. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
Then salt and water. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
It's a dish of summer lunches, cooked in a wok on the beach, at home, in Padstow. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:47 | |
It's blinkin' hot. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:51 | |
Yet again. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
How long before it's ready? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
About three minutes and 15 seconds. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
And here it is, in all its flaming glory. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
It's what I call holiday food - food that goes with conversation, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
and more importantly, it also goes very nicely with a cold beer. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
I started this whole series in Calcutta - hot, steamy Calcutta. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:29 | |
It was quite a baptism, because my shirt stuck to me | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
seconds after I left the hotel. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
It's quite extraordinary. How do people work? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
How do they think in this heat? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
I just felt I had to be by the river, and it was the river, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
the River Hooghly, that spawned this famous city, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
because this was where the East India Company sent back tonnes | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
and tonnes of spices, back to a world where they just couldn't get enough. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
And I know our love of curry, and the very reason I'm here, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
stems from this plant. Pepper. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
What the British wanted was spice - nutmeg, cinnamon, cloves - | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
but, above all, pepper. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Just imagine what it tasted like if you'd never tasted it before, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
if only a few people could afford it. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
I mean, that heat - there would have been nothing like it. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
You would absolutely think it would make you live longer, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
give you virility, whatever. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
It would make you a better person. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
It was literally worth its weight in gold. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
It's interesting how you come across little culinary jewels. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
Research? Yes. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
Reading guidebooks? OK. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Talking to local gourmets? | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Well, that's a bit touch and go. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
But on my very first night in the city, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
I tasted a curry in the hotel that blew me away. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
We don't actually tend to film dishes in my travels | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
that come from the hotel where I'm staying with the crew. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
But this one, rogan josh, is so good that I just felt we should. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
I think it's quite sort of similar to the rogan josh | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
that you get in Kashmir, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
but unfortunately, we haven't been allowed to go to Kashmir, so I don't know. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
But it is a deep red colour and it is absolutely fabulous. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
And this is how it's made. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
He is Chef Moshe. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
And myself, Chef Vikas. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
We're going to cook mutton rogan josh for you all today. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
So, Chef Moshe, we start. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
OK. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
You have whole spices, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
includes cinnamon, green cardamom, clove, bay leaf, mace... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
-Chopped onion. -Chopped onion into it. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
With the spices. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Ginger and garlic paste. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
And we keep stirring so that it doesn't stick to the pan. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
That's very important. Now we're going to add tomato paste into it. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
It gives a very good colour to your rogan josh. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
And then we'll add all the spices into the mixture. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
Red chilli powder. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
Dry coriander seed powder. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Cumin powder. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
Keep cooking the gravy, and in-between, you just feel the aroma. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
And once the raw flavour has gone off, we add fennel powder and garam masala. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
Now, we put the yoghurt into the gravy. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
This is the colour we wanted for the gravy. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Now, where is the meat, I hear you ask? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
It hasn't appeared yet. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:57 | |
I'll tell you the secret of the mutton rogan josh. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
We cook the mutton beforehand, and we slow-cook it, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
so it gives extra flavour to your mutton. Mutton rogan josh. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
Rogan is the gravy, and josh is the juice. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
The bone marrow - which gets dissolved along with the gravy - | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
that gives a very distinct flavour to your mutton rogan josh. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
We'll finish it off with fresh cream. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
That's called mutton rogan josh. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Thanks, Chefs! | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Now, the reason this is so good - | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
and I keep wittering on about it - is because the meat is cooked on the bone | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
and you get all that gelatinous bone marrow into the gravy, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
making it sweet and silky. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
And, lastly, a flourish of ginger and coriander. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
EAGLE SHRIEKS | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
Lucknow, as every curry aficionado knows, is very famous for its food. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:05 | |
Mainly because the people who ran the place in the 16th and 17th centuries - | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
the nawabs, the Muslim rulers - | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
were really interested in the arts, music, theatre, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
architecture and food. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
They wanted to outdo the people of Delhi with their fine dishes. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
Even this shrine, the Imambara, has a culinary history. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
Although its walls are six metres thick, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
the mortar in them is mixed with peanuts, lentils, water chestnut flour and honey. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:37 | |
And they say you can even hear a whisper through the wall, up to 15 metres away. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:44 | |
Not a good place for secrets. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
THEY LAUGH AND CHATTER | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
The culinary rivalry with the rest of India's towns and cities | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
is still alive and well. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
The winner of the very first Indian MasterChef, Pankaj Bhadouria, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
comes from Lucknow. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
HORN BLARES | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
Lucknow famous for, of course, its kebabs, biryanis | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
and you'll be surprised to see fish motifs on our emblems in Lucknow. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
We've seen it in the Imambara, the fish on the... | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
on the portals, on the doors. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
TRAFFIC NOISE AND CHATTER | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Lucknow is situated on the banks of the River Gomti, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
so you have a lot of fish available here. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
So what have we got, then? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
Er, we've got some pomfret here, he's got mackerels. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
-He's got shrimps as well. -Good. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
They get the sea fish from outside, but let's look at this one. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
This one seems good. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
What... What's it called? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
SHE TRANSLATES INTO LOCAL DIALECT | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
-Rohu? He says rohu. -Rohu. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
And this one? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
STALLHOLDER SPEAKS IN LOCAL DIALECT | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
This is tengan. This is called tengan. It has only one bone inside. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
So it's easier to make fillets out of this. | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
Oh, that would be good. A bit like... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
So... So we'll buy this, right? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
-Yeah, yeah, let's. -Great. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
SHE SPEAKS IN LOCAL DIALECT | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
Now, will they fillet it for you, or are you going to do it at home? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
-He'll do it for me. -OK. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
He'll clean it up nice and proper and then fillet it. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Can we watch him do it? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
-He'll do it right before us. -OK. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
You see, he'll remove the bone for me. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Such a different way of filleting... | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
We do it with a knife, he's got his own sickle to do it. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
I've asked him to remove the skin. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
I don't want the skin in my mouth when I eat the curry. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
It has to be smooth on your tongue. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
And many a time, the curries, after they've been cooked, they are strained | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
so that you do not get any spices in your mouth, you just get the flavours. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
Since she won that competition, she's now quite famous here in Lucknow | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
and has opened her own cookery school, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
where she's going to show me how to cook this well-known Lucknowi fish curry. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
So here are the poppy seeds. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
I'm going to roast them lightly. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
So what's the importance of roasting things like the poppy seeds | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
and other spices? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
When it comes in contact with the heat, the oils are released, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
the flavours are released, they come out much better. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
So here, I'm going to grind on this stone this poppy seed. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:17 | |
Take a little water... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Then I need to grind this. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
So, um, why are you using a stone? Could you not use a processor? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
No, Rick! No, I wouldn't. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Because the essential oils of all the spices are released - | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
they get ground, they are crushed. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
So the taste is definitely better. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
So it's much smoother and there's more flavour? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
-Yes. -Now what's next? | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
I'll just scoop this out and then I'm going to grind these whole spices here. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
So we've got nutmeg, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
cardamom, cloves, cumin seeds, black peppercorns, mace... | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
Yes. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
..black cardamom, chilli powder? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Yes, chilli powder. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:52 | |
So add a little water as I go. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
And you'll be surprised to know that, in days gone by, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
people used to employ a man called a masalchi, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
who would come in every morning and grind all the spices for the day. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
So there was a special man assigned to do this job. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
-A masalchi? -Yes, a masalchi. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
OK, so I'm going to take my curd here. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Yeah? | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
And, to this curd, I'm going to add the masala that I've just ground. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
Good. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
All of this. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:24 | |
I add the poppy seed that I've ground. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
-Along with this goes red chilli powder. -Red chilli powder. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
Next? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
-Then some salt, of course. -Yeah, about half a teaspoon? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Er, yes, I'll have to check it later. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
It's OK to taste things? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
-For me, it is. -OK. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
-But in most families, yes, it is not. -That's very interesting. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
There's a term called "chuta" - it's not good enough to be served. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-Because you've tasted it, you can't serve it to anybody. -Wow. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
So after I've added the salt, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
I'm going to add some ginger-garlic paste. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
This is also fresh-ground. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
This is some screw pine water. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
And... | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
What is that? | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
That's a sweet perfume. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
It's called "nita ithru". | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Nita is sweet. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
That's it. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:08 | |
And I am going to add some roast gram flour to this. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Chickpea flour? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
-Yes, it is. -OK. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
And now let me give it a good mix. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
-Can I taste it? -Yeah, sure. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
-Mm. -Seasoning OK? | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
-Seasoning, really good. -OK. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Cos I like salt and it's really nicely seasoned | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
cos you've got all that fish that you're going to cook that with. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
-But the spices are lovely. -Thank you. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
-I mean, this is raw but it tastes delicious already. -Thank you. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
This is clarified butter. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
-Ghee. -Or ghee. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
I am going to cover this ghee with some...fried onion. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
Add my fish pieces over this. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
I don't need to marinate it for too long. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
-No. -I just need to mix it in. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
So I cover it up with this lid | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
and I am going to seal this with some dough. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
Oh, right. So this is a dum pukht? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Yes, this is dum machli I am doing. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
-Dum? -Dum, yes. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Cooking in steam. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:06 | |
Cooking in its own steam. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
So this method of cooking is called dum pukht, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
and it's really common here. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
It means, as I've just said, "cooked in steam". | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
And Pankaj said that even the charcoal flavours penetrate the cooking pot. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
I can't see it myself, but she assures me it's true. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
So how long will that take now then? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Should take at least 40 minutes. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
OK. Fine. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
She's also made a dhal. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
It's a pigeon pea dhal, flavoured with cloves, cardamoms and yogurt. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
On a betel leaf, she puts a hot lump of charcoal | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
and smothers it with ghee. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
Again, she is trying to create a hint of smokiness in amongst the lentils. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:50 | |
She will remove it after a minute or so. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Now for the tarka, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
the hot fried spices that give the dhal a real zing. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
That's made with ghee, cumin seeds and garlic. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
And that's the final flourish. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
It's sprinkled with chopped green chillies and mint and that's it. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
And then the fish. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
She calls it tengan. It's a catfish as far as I can tell. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
Very firm flesh, a good clean taste, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
and I think I can smell a sort of barbecuey smokiness coming from the pot. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:28 | |
This woman really knows her stuff. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
Mm-hmm. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
-That's fabulous. -Thank you. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:41 | |
You know what you were saying earlier about Lucknowis love soft? | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
-Yes. -That's very, very refined. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
-Yeah. -I mean, this is so good. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
How come we don't have more Lucknowi dishes in the world at large then? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:56 | |
The reason, Rick, is that | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
every recipe here is very secretly guarded. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
It's passed on only to the family members. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
And because of that, it is unable to spread to the world. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Well, I am beginning... | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I tell you what, so far on our trip, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
this is the finest cooking we've come across. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
-Thank you. -And you are a very good cook. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
Thank you. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
-I've just been watching you, you're very deft. -Thank you. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
Well, I think the overall impression from a few months in India | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
travelling and tasting everything is, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
the more I know about Indian cooking the more I need to know. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
But that's not saying I haven't learnt a great deal in the time. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
I think, above all, it's the value of freshly ground spice. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
I remember, for example, when we were in Bombay, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
watching these pistons grinding the spice. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
Of course, we named them the "spice pistons", | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
rather a good name for a band, don't you think? | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
But when you took the red chilli powder from out of that machine and smelled it, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:09 | |
there was just the most glorious chilli aromas. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
A spice grinder is absolutely essential. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
And one of the things that I sadly miss in the UK is a machine | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
that will grind wet and dry spices. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
I remember the first time I came to India, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
I left with a spice grinder about this big. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
I actually bought this in India, this little baby here, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
which works by just grinding the spice | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
that we are going to put there between two stones. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
But it's just such a wonderful machine. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
It is what I consider Royal Enfield or an old Roberts radio or something like that. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
Reliable, '60s stuff. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
First of all, some red onions for colour as well as the flavour of onions. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
Don't worry about the fact that one of the wheels isn't going, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
it doesn't work perfectly. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
But indeed it does a wonderful job. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
Nothing's perfect, least of all a Royal Enfield. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
There we go. Now the ginger. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
I promise you, this turns out impeccable masalas. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:14 | |
Look at it going. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
I wanted the bigger one but I couldn't get it on the plane. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Oh, my gosh! | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Going like a Trojan. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
WHIRS LOUDLY | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
WHIRRING ECHOES | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
DUCK QUACKS | 0:33:36 | 0:33:37 | |
So now we're just going to transfer... | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
If I can find a cloth, this is a bit hot. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
..my fried masala into this wonderful... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:56 | |
mixer/blender/liquidiser. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
There we go, in it goes. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
SPLASHES | 0:34:05 | 0:34:06 | |
BLEEP! | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Just make sure the lid of your liquidiser is securely on, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
otherwise hot oil could go over your shirt and your face, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
or in my case, WILL go over your shirt and your face. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
So, in nearly 20 years, what's changed? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
The hair. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
-Yeah. -Teeth. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
-Yeah. -Erm, the weight. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
OK, OK, thank you, thank you, Dave! | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
In Lucknow, I had the best chicken korma ever. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
Very delicate and creamy. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
It was made by Rocky Mohan, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
a passionate cook who's written many cookery books. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
However, he and his wife, Raka, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
have some misgivings about the word curry. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
-Now, I just want to ask you something. -Tell me. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
-With my mouth full. -Yes. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
I'm sure it's as bad manners here as it is back home, but... | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
what...what do you take by the word curry? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
We don't have the word curry in our language at all. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
It's unfair to call our variety as under one major head as curry. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
I think the word curry is coined by the British themselves. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
I think that when they lived in India | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
and they were eating at various parts of India, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
so the one single word that they thought would carry the message | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
to the kind of food | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
they wanted to have, which had gravy, so they called it curry. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
And one thing that I must point out, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
the worst thing that ever happened to Indian food | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
is the madras curry powder. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
Absolutely horrendous stuff, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
and you go and add it to just about everything, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
they all taste the same. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
And it was turmeric, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
lots of turmeric, lots of coriander seed powder, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
some cumin and all dumped together and tasted horrible. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
Oh, dear! I can't agree with that! | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
I think I'm right in saying that we British fell madly, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
deeply in love with curry. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
First through curry powder | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
and then through the thousands of so-called Indian restaurants | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
that spread to virtually every high street in the land. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
It's one of those curious things | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
but although India got her independence in 1947, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
they wouldn't allow any Indians | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
to join the Madras Club until the early '60s. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
It's unbelievable. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
I'm here because of the most famous soup in India, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
the one created in the heyday of the Raj by the British. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
It's not often that strangers | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
get invited into these hallowed, erm, grounds. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
So I feel, you know, very, very lucky. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
But more so that they're actually making mulligatawny soup for me | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
because, as I understand it, this is where it came from. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
He's starting off by making a paste. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
We've got some coriander seeds, cumin seeds, black pepper seeds, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
ginger, garlic, mint, turmeric, water going in here. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
-Is that garam masala or... -It's a curry powder. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
Curry powder. Curry powder? Wow. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Curry powder! | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
Madras! | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
BLENDER WHIRS | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
How popular is mulligatawny soup in the club? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
It's very popular. It is our signature dish. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
However, the most popular dish is the roast lamb, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
grilled chicken, and we have shepherd's pie. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
-These are the very most popular dish. -Wow! | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
I would certainly feel at home. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
So that pungent green chloroformy paste goes into a saucepan with carrots, leeks, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:55 | |
celery, onions, cardamom and tomatoes. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
They've already been fried with cloves and cinnamon. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
And now the chicken. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
Add a tablespoon of flour and turmeric. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Chicken stock, water. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
A tadge more turmeric. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
And then simmer for at least half an hour, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
until the chicken is cooked. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Coconut milk. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
And now two teaspoonfuls of salt. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
And then sieve. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
A squeeze of fresh lime. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
I know they look like lemons, but they're limes. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
And then rice. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:44 | |
And voila. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
The first mulligatawny I've tasted for 20 years. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
That is very nice indeed. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
It's really intense in flavour. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
And what's interesting, it's really hot, but there's no chilli in it. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
It's just hot with black pepper. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
I'm rather saddened, really, because you used to be able buy | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
tins of mulligatawny soup | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
very easily in the UK, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:07 | |
but I guess the taste for it has just...has gone. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
Partly, I suspect, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
because the tinned soup tasted nothing like this. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
This is thick and absolutely full of lovely green, spicy flavour. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
CAR HORN BEEPS | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
This is my daily journey | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
from the bungalow where I'm cooking to the market. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
Looking out of the window is far better than watching the telly. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Everywhere a picture | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
and every picture a clue to what India is all about. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
I keep seeing all this different-coloured bunting everywhere. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
I've just passed through an area of silver bunting. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
And I asked a local and he said, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
"Well, if it's silver and white, it's for the Christians. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
"If it's yellow, it's for the Hindus. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
"If it's green, it's for the Muslims. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
"And if it's red, it's for the Communists." | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
I think that says quite a lot about Kerala, really. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
I like coming here. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
This is a great little market. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
The vegetables are so cheap. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
You know, I could easily buy enough to feed a couple of dozen people | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
for just a few pounds. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
It's a good place to think about food and decide what I'm about to cook. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
I never feel like a tourist in a market. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
I may not know every vegetable and spice but I feel I'm part of it. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
They're making poppadoms here. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
They're made with gram flour. That's chickpea flour. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
When they're fried, they give so much enjoyment with chutneys, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
pickles, fruit mixed with onions and accompanied by a cold beer, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
in anticipation of a really good curry to come. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
I think it was the poppadom that was the spur that made us | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
all go to Indian restaurants in the '50s and '60s. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Because although you could get a curry of sorts back at home, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
you'd never get a poppadom. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
OIL SIZZLES | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
Note in the margin. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
If your poppadoms are soggy, leave the restaurant immediately | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
because the curry won't be very good. You've been warned! | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
Well, this is the most popular vegetable dish in Kerala, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
I would suggest. It's called thoran. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
You find it everywhere and the great thing about it is it's an easy way | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
of using whatever's fresh and beautiful | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
in the market on a daily basis. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
Now, I've just got some coconut oil in the pan there. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I'm just going to add about a teaspoon of mustard seeds, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
a teaspoon of cumin seeds | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
and a handful of curry leaves. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
OIL SIZZLES | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
Now I'm going to just break a couple of dried red chillies in there. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
Just stir that round a little bit. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
And now, through the wonders of modern kitchen equipment, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
I'm going to grate some ginger, whole fresh ginger to add that to. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
It's just a little bit hot and I've done the ginger. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
I might just add a little bit of water just to bring the temperature down a bit. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
I'm doing this because I've seen them do it all over India | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
and that's before I add the turmeric, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
because I don't want the turmeric to burn at all. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
Just get the rest of the ginger off there. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
Now then. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
There we go. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
And now for my turmeric. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
I mean, I just...love this vegetable dish. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
What I think is really good about it | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
is that it's flavoured with coconuts, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
first, obviously, with the coconut oil, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
but at the end I'm going to put in some grated fresh coconut. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
And there's virtually no water in it so it's very, very concentrated. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
There we go, just add in the turmeric | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
and now some freshly-ground black pepper, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
about a teaspoon, I suppose. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
And them some salt. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
Just under a teaspoon. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
And now for my vegetables. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
Now, you make thoran, as I've said, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
with whatever comes out of the market - | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
spinach, cabbage and, in this case, carrots. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
They call these English vegetables | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
because they're not originally from Kerala. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
I must say, the carrots here are absolutely wonderful. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
And then cabbage. Very finely chopped up. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
Everything in a thoran is very finely chopped up. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
Stir that around, until it is thoroughly amalgamated | 0:43:56 | 0:44:02 | |
and then I'm just going to | 0:44:02 | 0:44:03 | |
put a lid on and leave it to cook very gently for about five minutes, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:09 | |
just to cook the vegetables. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
But what I really like to do with the carrot is just leave it | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
with a little bit of crunch when I serve up the dish. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
I just put on the lid and wait for about five minutes. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
Have you thought of bringing another shirt with you? | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
I know, Dave, but it's so hot | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
I don't even think the dog likes being around me! | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
So, now that should be ready | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
for the final addition, which is first of all some freshly-grated coconut. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:39 | |
That is so important in there, | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
it just gives it a real sort of lightness. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
It just goes in at the last minute. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
In fact, some people don't even stir it in, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
they just leave it on the top. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
And finally, some sliced green chillies. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
So it is quite hot, no doubt about that. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
But, erm, everyone loves chillies in Kerala. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
Now, I just sort of thought it might be tempting fate, but Ashok, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
whose house this is we're filming, is just nearby. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
I might just ask him if he'd like to come and try one of his | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
traditional Keralan dishes cooked by an Englishman. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
Would you mind? | 0:45:22 | 0:45:23 | |
Of course, Rick, I'd like to taste your dish. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
It looks really original. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
-Does it? -Yeah, it does. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
Just like how Malli serves it at home. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
-Let's see if it tastes the same. -Oh, gosh! Here we go! | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
-OK. A little taste, OK? -It might be a bit hot. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
-You've got it, Rick. -Oh, gosh, Ashok! You are nice! | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
You've got the taste! | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
It's really nice. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
I'm going to take one more. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you! | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
-You've made my day. -Lovely. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
-Good. -Thank you, Rick. -Thank you! | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
FISHERMEN CHANT | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
These fishermen have been out all night. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
There's about seven or eight in each crew and what impresses me | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
is how strong they are, getting these boats up. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
I love the chant as they're pulling, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
trying to get themselves the strength to pull the boat up the beach. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
MEN CHANT | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
Sometimes when we're bumping along in our minibus from one dusty town to another, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
I think people think everything about filming is fun, but it's not, to be honest. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
A lot of the time you're hot, you're sweaty, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
you're trying to think of something yet again wonderful to say | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
about another mutton curry, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
but this morning, it's really turned up trumps. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
I mean, this is seriously what filming is all about for me. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
I'm coming to the end of my stay here now. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
And I'm going to cook the best fish curry ever, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
for all the people who've made my time here so enormously pleasurable. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:13 | |
As it's such a special day, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
I thought I'd get a really special fish for the curry, snapper - | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
firm and fresh tasting. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
Truth to tell, I first tasted this many weeks ago | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
on the Coromandel Coast. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Where the early pumpkins blow. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
I wasn't expecting very much from a cafe on the beach, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
but when it was served to me, in all its gold and red glory, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
I thought, "Blimey, this is the one." | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
That is just simply perfect. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
I mean, the fish is so fresh, it's... You can taste the sea. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
You know, when it's dead fresh fish like that. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
Nobody ever gets it wrong when it's fresh like that. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
So would you put that on your list of best curries? | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
Would I?! | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
I mean, seriously, for me, and I think I'm a bit biased, I have to say, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
but fish curry like this... | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
..could be...could be the one. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
And, so, this is it, the final countdown. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Some of the guests have arrived already. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
Ashok's busy with his flute, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
and it'll take about 30 minutes from now to make this perfect curry. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:31 | |
This is local snapper and I must say it is lovely, steaky fish, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
ideal for a curry. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:39 | |
I'm keeping the skin on to keep it together | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
but I suspect there's going to be some really nice sort of fattiness, | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
which I adore, just under the skin. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
So I'm really looking forward to cooking this. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
Now then...just nip...and wash my hands. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
It's so very pleasant, this kitchen. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
It's got everything you need - | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
an outdoor field, running cold water and a pet snake. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
Now then. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:09 | |
Into...making the curry. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
Triple batch, so lots and lots of vegetable oil | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
in the bottom of my karahi. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:17 | |
Hope it's going to be big enough for all this. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
And then two to three teaspoons of yellow mustard seeds. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
I'm just going to let them brown slightly. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
Fab. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
So, in they go. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
Can't tell you how important it is | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
to cook the onions for a good long time. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
This is going to be about ten minutes. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
But I'm rewarded by a wonderful aroma of cooking onions. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
And the mustard seeds are adding immeasurably to that. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
Now, we've got about ten cloves of garlic, Indian cloves. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
-I'm going to miss this. -BANGS PAN | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
I know I'm a bit pathetic about my pans, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
but this has been my friend all through these cooking sequences. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
It's perfect, it's got real thickness | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
and therefore, it holds the heat. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
Once it's up to heat, nothing seems to burn too much. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
OK, now curry leaves. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Sometimes you put curry leaves in at the end, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
but in a lot of dishes | 0:50:20 | 0:50:21 | |
you put them in right at the beginning and fry them. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
When I think, when the curry leaves first got to the UK | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
and you had them in little jars and they were dried, a bit like parsley, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
you can't be using those. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
Got to use the fresh ones, and if you can't get 'em - | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
or frozen, they're good - leave 'em out. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
OK, now some turmeric. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
About a heaped teaspoon for this large portion of madras fish curry. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:47 | |
But I am going to be quite serious with my chilli. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
Probably about four teaspoons. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
Kashmiri chilli... Let's make it five. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
Just Kashmiri chilli, it's not too hot. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
I tend to prefer that to any other, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
because you get that lovely red colour | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
and you don't get searing heat. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
There we go, in that goes, and now a lot of freshly ground coriander. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
One, two, three, four. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
Good. Stir that around. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
Not too long, about 30 seconds. I don't want it to burn. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
And now I'm going to put some tomato in. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
A lot of tomato, cos there's a lot of curry. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
Now, the most...apart from the snapper, apart from the fish... | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
the most important ingredient... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
is tamarind water, or tamarind liquor, cos it's really thick. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
I'm going to put all that in there. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
A very lovely souring agent used all over Southern India. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:54 | |
Look at that now. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
What I love about this curry is it's got very few ingredients, | 0:51:56 | 0:52:01 | |
everything is cooked at the last minute, as it should be with fish. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
And now some chillies. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
About four or five green chillies. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
Stir that in. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:13 | |
Beautiful. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
And now some salt. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
This is the sort of dish I like. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
In goes the salt, couple of teaspoons. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
Stir that in. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:26 | |
And, next, the fish. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
And then it's done. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
So wonderful about fish dishes, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
so easy, so simple to cook. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
Look at that. Beautiful, firm snapper. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
Now, then. Just stir that in, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
carefully. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
It won't break up very easily but once | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
I've got the heat going again | 0:52:53 | 0:52:54 | |
and it's starting to cook, I won't stir it any more | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
cos I don't want those lovely chunks to break up. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
Now, then, just going to have a little taste of this, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
to make sure I've got the seasoning right. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
Oh! | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
That's my sort of dish. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
It's just so fresh with all that tamarind and tomato, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
the sort of green flavours, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
and it'll just suit this fish perfectly. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
So, there it is, my perfect madras fish curry. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
Erm, excuse me. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:30 | |
Shouldn't it be more correct in saying, erm, Chennai fish curry? | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
Chennai fish curry? | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
Do you want me to get a bit grumpy? | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
Because I'm perfectly capable of it, but... | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
what does Chennai mean to me, you know? | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
I mean, I was born and brought up on madras curry powder, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
the Indian restaurants with hot madras curries. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
No way! | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
I'm sorry! | 0:53:53 | 0:53:54 | |
I know it's politically, perfectly correct, but not for me, no. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
That's a proper Indian curry. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
MELODIC FLUTE | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
I really did enjoy cooking that. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
And it's funny how cooking certain dishes really makes you come alive. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
Malli made a dhal to go with the fish, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
and I just hope that people are hungry. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
I'm not too worried about what they think because I know, being a cook, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
or a fish cook, for nearly 40 years, it's going to be absolutely spot-on. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:38 | |
I hope there's enough to go around. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
Well, I hope there's enough to go around, too. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
-Rick, it's delicious. -Oh! | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
And I love the spin of the tomatoes on the fish curry. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
-LAUGHS -See? | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
-Ooh, sorry. -Are you going to have some? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
I always think they're only saying it to be nice. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
But...it's very good fish, I must say. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
Really nice. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
It's an Indian curry, a good curry, fish curry. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
Very, very... Yeah, I like it a lot. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
We love our fish nice and tart and spicy - and got it. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
It was very rich, very good. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
Oh, it's actually fabulous. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
It tastes very, very good. Very good. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
Well, this is my darling wife, Sarah. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
Sassie, what do you think of the fish curry? | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
Ricky, I think it's kalam. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
Kalam? What does that mean? | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
Bloody good. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:36 | |
LAUGHS | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
So, Rick, final goodbye and I am really going to miss you. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
Same here. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
-Bye. -Goodbye, Ashok. It's been lovely. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
I'd give you a kiss but it's probably not the right thing. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
We'll see you soon. OK. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
Thank you, India, for a mind-blasting curry extravaganza. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
People said to me before I came here | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
that I wouldn't get such a nice curry as we get back at home. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:16 | |
To those people, I say unto them, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
try and get out a bit more - it broadens your horizons. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
The generosity I received was overwhelming. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
The dishes I tasted, not all of them, but most, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
were full of beautiful spice. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
And it was the sort of food that made you think. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
Much in the same way that a book or a painting | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
can stimulate the little grey cells. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
I've said this before, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
but once the thought of a curry enters your head, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
then nothing else will do. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
Not a Chinese, not a pizza, not a burger. It has to be a curry. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:52 | |
The curries in the North, eaten with bread, were full of ghee and cream | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
and chillies, of course. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
So different from those in the South, made with tamarind and curry leaf. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
I loved the fish curries, cooked in mustard oil and coconut, from Calcutta. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:27 | |
They were really deep and satisfying. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
And the pulaos from Lucknow. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:30 | |
Would you say this was perfect? | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
I liked going into the kitchens of the fishing families | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
to see how they made something really special from that day's catch. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
Oh, this was really special, | 0:57:48 | 0:57:50 | |
the best-known street food in Bombay. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
-Wow! -What do you think? | 0:57:54 | 0:57:55 | |
Pav bhaji, once eaten, never forgotten. | 0:57:55 | 0:58:00 | |
What brilliant mind said it? But I think it's so true - | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
that to understand a country, first of all, you have to eat it. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:08 | |
And I just did. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
And it was delicious. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
THEY SING IN LOCAL DIALECT | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
That's a mind-blasting curry, Ricky! | 0:58:51 | 0:58:53 | |
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