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This lovely bungalow on a lagoon in Kerala has been my base

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while I've been cooking dishes that come from all over India.

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Dishes like this spicy Keralan pork curry.

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And this dead-easy-to-do paneer jalfrezi.

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And my very own British Raj curry from Madras.

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Oh, and there's a lovely egg curry from Calcutta.

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I mean Kolkata.

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And these shami kebabs from Lucknow.

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You'll probably gather from my tone that it'll soon be time to leave.

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This will be my last programme in this fabulous country.

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BIRDSONG

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Good morning, Ashok.

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Good morning, Rick.

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'In short, this trip to India has been, I think,

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'the best trip I've ever had in filming land.'

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And the curries have been pretty good, too.

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First-class curry, Ricky!

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-MAN:

-That's a mind-blasting curry, Ricky!

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There's a snake down there, in the water pipe.

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I think it lives in there.

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It's not poisonous...

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I'm told.

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I certainly ain't going for a swim.

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Apart from worrying about where the snake - called Cynthia - was,

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life at the bungalow was good, especially when we stopped for lunch.

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We'd all sit outside, under the palm trees

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and Malli would cook for us effortlessly.

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She'd make about five or six curries, mostly vegetarian.

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But this was our favourite, her prawn curry.

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CAMERA CLICKS

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Ashok, whose bungalow it is, can't stop taking photographs.

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First of all, Malli, his cook, fries onions, green chillies and minced ginger.

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It's very important to spend some time softening the onions

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because this slow cooking brings out their sweetness.

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And then she puts in chilli powder, turmeric and ground pepper.

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Next, the prawns - freshwater prawns.

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They're really plentiful here.

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As, indeed, now they are in supermarkets back home.

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Ashok, I just wonder if you could ask Mallika

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if she knows what the word curry means, has it got any meaning to her?

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ASHOK TRANSLATES QUESTION

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REPLIES IN LOCAL DIALECT

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Normally, when you say curry in the real sense,

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it's like, you know, a little gravy with it.

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Yes, yes.

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And there are other methods of doing it, too, which is frying.

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-Yeah.

-And?

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MALLIKA SPEAKS IN LOCAL DIALECT

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Yeah, this particular dish is with gravy.

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Yeah. So this is a proper curry.

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It's a proper curry.

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Interestingly, we've given them the word "gravy" in exchange for the word "curry".

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Now she puts in fresh chopped tomatoes and a generous spoonful of salt.

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It's her quantities, not mine, so please don't write in!

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Then water and a generous handful of curry leaves,

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one of the most important ingredients in South Indian curries.

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I have to confess, I tried doing this with tinned tomatoes

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and I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.

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It turns out too sweet and gloopy, so fresh and astringent it is.

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Before I came to India, people said,

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"Well, they won't understand in India what you mean by curry,

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"it's not a word they use." But they do.

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-You do understand what I mean!

-Of course we do.

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And there it is, looking every inch the film crew's favourite lunch.

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And it's pretty obvious why.

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So let's not hang around.

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-Let me try that.

-Mmm!

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It's...

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very spicy!

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I think the thing we get wrong in the West is we don't put enough spice in.

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Isn't this too much? Or is it...?

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No, not at all, it's lovely!

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So will you ask her if she's happy with her own curry?

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Happy? Sure.

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It's very good!

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LAUGHS

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Well, I've been in India for quite a few weeks now

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and, um, the more I'm here, the more confused I become about curry.

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I started off with this determination

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to find the perfect curry.

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But now I find - what is curry?

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Is it... Is it just a gravy, or is it a sort of way of life?

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Because I used to think, in reading books,

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that the Indians really didn't understand what we mean by curry, but they do!

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They understand perfectly.

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I think it's passed into the general vernacular

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and, I must say, I've been very well helped

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in my sort of attempts to find out what curry is

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by this book by Lizzie Collingham, called Curry.

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Basically, it encompasses everything about curry and I think it's an attitude.

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I think... I'm not looking for lots of gravy and lots of spice,

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I'm looking for a perfect spicy experience.

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CAR HORNS BLARE

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This is the town of Madurai, a day's drive from Kerala.

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It's a famous merchants' town

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and their ancestors traded with the ancient Greeks and the Romans.

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But, over the centuries,

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the merchants, more or less, traded with anybody interested in spice.

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And out of it emerged their own cuisine.

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They call it Chettinad cooking.

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I felt I was in the India of my imagination,

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from the days when I used to look at old sepia photographs

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in encyclopaedias that were falling apart,

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full of men with pith helmets and elephants carrying teak logs.

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The ancient Meenakshi Temple here could and probably did feature in one of them.

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There's a sign there that my guide told me said,

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"Feed your soul first and then feed yourself."

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I think, over here, that speaks reams, because the longer I spend in India,

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the more I realise that food is intertwined with compassion

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and caring for others, especially at the temples.

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And it doesn't matter about caste or creed -

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all are welcome to sit down, to eat and pray, if they wish, afterwards.

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I'm told, without this system, provided by the various temples throughout India,

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many inevitably would go without.

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But no-one from my viewpoint in this particular batch seemed undernourished.

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Virtually all the meals I had in Madurai were made with vegetables alone

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and I realised I could easily be a vegetarian here.

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I loved going to the not-so-Modern Restaurant

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and seeing unfeasibly large pots of vegetable stew they call sambar,

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made with yellow mung beans, tomatoes and a whole host of spices.

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And the lovely tarka - fried in ghee - they put on the top is irresistible.

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This is the only thing they serve here, but everybody loves it,

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everybody has the same thing.

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I imagine probably half of India eats like this, all vegetarian.

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And, certainly in Southern India, everybody eats off a banana leaf.

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It's the most perfect vehicle for eating off,

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because, when you've finished, you just fold the banana leaf up

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with anything that's left and throw it away.

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But you don't throw it away into the garbage.

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You throw it away for the cows.

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And one of the things I've learned while being in India

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is that home cooking is what everybody wants, and I mean everybody.

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That's businessmen with fat wallets, down to the local chai wallah.

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They all want the flavour of home.

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And a local five-star hotel has employed a housewife from an outlying village

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to create home-cooked dishes in their stainless-steel kitchens.

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So, when Mrs Samundeswari has finished her morning chores at home,

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she uses her skills, handed down from her grandmother,

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to cook authentic food for the discerning customer.

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CAR HORNS BLARE

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I must say, I think this is a really good idea,

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because to be able to actually get a seriously good home cook

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and set her up in a kitchen like this, cooking her dishes from home,

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I think is a tremendous bit of salesmanship.

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Today's local speciality is Chettinad chicken.

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Mrs Samundeswari starts off with oil, and that's flavoured with cinnamon bark,

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then fennel seeds and now this, kalpasi.

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It's a type of lichen.

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They all flavour the oil.

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And I suspect that it's the kalpasi that makes this dish unique.

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Now onions, and where there are onions, the curry leaves are not far behind.

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Next, garlic.

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Bit of a stir...

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..and then chicken. And she makes sure

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every bit is coated with the flavoured oil.

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Now, a paste that's made up with fennel, cumin, pepper,

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garlic, chilli and coriander.

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Followed by the powdered spices -

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coriander, chilli, garam masala and pepper.

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It's a bit complicated!

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It's one of the most complex dishes I've come across over here.

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And they call it home cooking?!

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SPEAKS LOCAL DIALECT

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Well, I must say, this looks really interesting.

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I'm just amazed that she would cook such a complicated dish at home.

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It sort of looks to me, I have to say, like hotel cooking.

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But I'm assured that she does cook like this at home,

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so who am I to say?

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I'm also very intrigued to try this kalpasi,

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because when I read about it, it's actually the lichen

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that comes off stones around here. When I first tried it,

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I thought I could probably get this off a stone off Bodmin Moor and dry it.

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And when I tasted it, it tasted of nothing.

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And then, this wonderful aroma came through.

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And every time I taste dishes with it in now,

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I think, "There's loads of cinnamon in that dish."

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And then I think, "It's not quite cinnamon."

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What it is is kalpasi.

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Finally, some more garam masala and coriander leaf.

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And I hope that's it.

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Just the look of this curry pleases me enormously.

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And I love it being served on a banana leaf.

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With my cook's intuition,

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I know this is going to be one of the best curries I've tasted so far.

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But I think when I write it up, I'll simplify it a little.

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Wow!

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That is very spicy.

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But incredibly good.

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You can taste all the ingredients in it.

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What I really like about it is it's quite dry.

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I know that's the wrong word, but there's not a lot of gravy,

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but what gravy there is is so pungent,

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and the taste of that kalpasi, the lichen, is wonderful in it.

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I'm going to crave that for ever more, I think. It's really good.

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You're not going to believe this, but a guest who is staying here

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saw a tweet of mine and realised we were both staying at the same hotel.

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So you mean, you just saw me on Twitter?

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Yes. And there is a tweet that you were in Chennai,

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and then I see that you're in Madurai.

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Well, I'm blowed. The power of Twitter!

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'He turned out to be a serious foodie.

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'He's called Gunjan.'

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I follow you, Rick,

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and one of the things I see is, "Rick's staying in Madurai."

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And I sent a tweet to you immediately. And I must tell you,

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Rick, I have been coming to this hotel for the last four or five months,

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and the food that she cooks is better than the hotel management graduates,

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and, you know, the cooks that have all these catering schools.

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I think she cooks from the heart. And the food and the flavours

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in that particular curry, or the Chettinad thing that she makes,

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is completely different

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-than what you get from hotels.

-Absolutely.

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One thing I've picked up all along is how much Indians love home cooking.

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So to have somebody cooking

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-who cooks that sort of food...

-I agree with you.

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I couldn't agree with you more, actually, because...

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take my mother, for example.

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-I have never seen her measure spices.

-Yeah.

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Putting the spices the way she wants to.

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-Not measuring them out or anything.

-Not measuring them out.

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It's like, that's the way she cooks.

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And that's the way most of the home cooks work.

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And we go by standardised recipes - this much, this much, this one.

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I do some amateur cooking at home,

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and I just go exactly the way the ingredients go.

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The great thing is that there is no method in the madness of their cooking.

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I was sort of thinking, because she's just cooked me chicken Chettinad

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in the kitchen, which was so spicy.

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Really hot, with pepper as opposed to chilli,

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which I think is quite common here, isn't it?

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Around Madurai. And Chettinad.

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But I was just thinking, it would be really good to,

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actually in any hotel kitchen,

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to get really good domestic cooking there.

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Because chefs are a bit, they cook in sort of chef school ways, you know?

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I know! And coming from you, Chef, it's slightly contradictory.

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But having said that, I would still say that, yes.

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I think it's an amazing concept, you know.

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What I love about you Indians is you're so enthusiastic about your food.

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It's just a joy, I must say.

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My mouth is already watering, I'm sorry!

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LAUGHTER

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Good. Thanks.

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I can't go long, really, without seafood.

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And seeing a pretty plate of crabs in a local market

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was the only excuse I needed to cook a famous Chettinad dish -

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Chettinad crab.

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This is good finger-picking food.

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I wouldn't mind trying this back at home using our own brown crabs,

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or even spider crabs, with that lovely, sweet leg meat.

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First of all, to make a paste in my trusty blender,

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I add some fennel seeds, cumin seeds...

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some grated coconut and water.

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A quick whizz in my powerful Indian blender that weighs a tonne,

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and it comes out, thanks to the coconut, looking quite creamy.

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Meanwhile, in the karahi, I heat up some oil

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and temper it with a good teaspoonful of fennel and fenugreek seeds.

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Next, some sliced onions and some chopped garlic.

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Followed by the powdered spices - chilli powder, turmeric and coriander.

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Now for the crab bits.

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Give them a serious stir, coating every bit of the crab with the flavoured oil.

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I love these curries.

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I just like eating with my fingers.

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There's nothing better than a pile of rice,

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maybe some nice bread as well,

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some naan bread, perhaps.

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Maybe a glass of beer.

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Lots of chat and lots of picking. It's what I like.

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And, of course, you've got to have a nice bowl

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to rinse your hands every now and then,

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but it's leisurely eating, which I adore.

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Next, curry leaves and fresh chopped tomato.

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Tomatoes in Kerala are so good.

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Now, the coconutty paste, and I'll stir that around.

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And for a touch of tarty sourness, some tamarind,

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and a new one, kokum.

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That's a type of dried mangosteen, and it tastes beautifully smoky.

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Finally, just a bit of sweetness.

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Jaggery is the juice from the sugar cane, boiled down so it becomes like a fudge.

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Then salt and water.

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It's a dish of summer lunches, cooked in a wok on the beach, at home, in Padstow.

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It's blinkin' hot.

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Yet again.

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How long before it's ready?

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About three minutes and 15 seconds.

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And here it is, in all its flaming glory.

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It's what I call holiday food - food that goes with conversation,

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and more importantly, it also goes very nicely with a cold beer.

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I started this whole series in Calcutta - hot, steamy Calcutta.

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It was quite a baptism, because my shirt stuck to me

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seconds after I left the hotel.

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It's quite extraordinary. How do people work?

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How do they think in this heat?

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I just felt I had to be by the river, and it was the river,

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the River Hooghly, that spawned this famous city,

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because this was where the East India Company sent back tonnes

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and tonnes of spices, back to a world where they just couldn't get enough.

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And I know our love of curry, and the very reason I'm here,

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stems from this plant. Pepper.

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What the British wanted was spice - nutmeg, cinnamon, cloves -

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but, above all, pepper.

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Just imagine what it tasted like if you'd never tasted it before,

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if only a few people could afford it.

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I mean, that heat - there would have been nothing like it.

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You would absolutely think it would make you live longer,

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give you virility, whatever.

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It would make you a better person.

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It was literally worth its weight in gold.

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It's interesting how you come across little culinary jewels.

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Research? Yes.

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Reading guidebooks? OK.

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Talking to local gourmets?

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Well, that's a bit touch and go.

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But on my very first night in the city,

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I tasted a curry in the hotel that blew me away.

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We don't actually tend to film dishes in my travels

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that come from the hotel where I'm staying with the crew.

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But this one, rogan josh, is so good that I just felt we should.

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I think it's quite sort of similar to the rogan josh

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that you get in Kashmir,

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but unfortunately, we haven't been allowed to go to Kashmir, so I don't know.

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But it is a deep red colour and it is absolutely fabulous.

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And this is how it's made.

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He is Chef Moshe.

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And myself, Chef Vikas.

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We're going to cook mutton rogan josh for you all today.

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So, Chef Moshe, we start.

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OK.

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You have whole spices,

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includes cinnamon, green cardamom, clove, bay leaf, mace...

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-Chopped onion.

-Chopped onion into it.

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With the spices.

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Ginger and garlic paste.

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And we keep stirring so that it doesn't stick to the pan.

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That's very important. Now we're going to add tomato paste into it.

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It gives a very good colour to your rogan josh.

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And then we'll add all the spices into the mixture.

0:21:240:21:28

Red chilli powder.

0:21:280:21:29

Dry coriander seed powder.

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Cumin powder.

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Keep cooking the gravy, and in-between, you just feel the aroma.

0:21:340:21:39

And once the raw flavour has gone off, we add fennel powder and garam masala.

0:21:390:21:44

Now, we put the yoghurt into the gravy.

0:21:470:21:50

This is the colour we wanted for the gravy.

0:21:500:21:53

Now, where is the meat, I hear you ask?

0:21:530:21:56

It hasn't appeared yet.

0:21:560:21:57

I'll tell you the secret of the mutton rogan josh.

0:21:570:22:00

We cook the mutton beforehand, and we slow-cook it,

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so it gives extra flavour to your mutton. Mutton rogan josh.

0:22:030:22:07

Rogan is the gravy, and josh is the juice.

0:22:070:22:11

The bone marrow - which gets dissolved along with the gravy -

0:22:110:22:14

that gives a very distinct flavour to your mutton rogan josh.

0:22:140:22:18

We'll finish it off with fresh cream.

0:22:180:22:21

That's called mutton rogan josh.

0:22:260:22:28

Thanks, Chefs!

0:22:280:22:30

Now, the reason this is so good -

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and I keep wittering on about it - is because the meat is cooked on the bone

0:22:330:22:37

and you get all that gelatinous bone marrow into the gravy,

0:22:370:22:41

making it sweet and silky.

0:22:410:22:43

And, lastly, a flourish of ginger and coriander.

0:22:460:22:49

EAGLE SHRIEKS

0:22:530:22:54

Lucknow, as every curry aficionado knows, is very famous for its food.

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Mainly because the people who ran the place in the 16th and 17th centuries -

0:23:050:23:09

the nawabs, the Muslim rulers -

0:23:090:23:12

were really interested in the arts, music, theatre,

0:23:120:23:16

architecture and food.

0:23:160:23:20

They wanted to outdo the people of Delhi with their fine dishes.

0:23:200:23:24

Even this shrine, the Imambara, has a culinary history.

0:23:240:23:27

Although its walls are six metres thick,

0:23:280:23:31

the mortar in them is mixed with peanuts, lentils, water chestnut flour and honey.

0:23:310:23:37

And they say you can even hear a whisper through the wall, up to 15 metres away.

0:23:370:23:44

Not a good place for secrets.

0:23:440:23:45

THEY LAUGH AND CHATTER

0:23:450:23:48

The culinary rivalry with the rest of India's towns and cities

0:23:510:23:55

is still alive and well.

0:23:550:23:58

The winner of the very first Indian MasterChef, Pankaj Bhadouria,

0:23:580:24:02

comes from Lucknow.

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HORN BLARES

0:24:040:24:05

Lucknow famous for, of course, its kebabs, biryanis

0:24:050:24:10

and you'll be surprised to see fish motifs on our emblems in Lucknow.

0:24:100:24:15

We've seen it in the Imambara, the fish on the...

0:24:150:24:17

on the portals, on the doors.

0:24:170:24:20

TRAFFIC NOISE AND CHATTER

0:24:200:24:23

Lucknow is situated on the banks of the River Gomti,

0:24:230:24:26

so you have a lot of fish available here.

0:24:260:24:29

So what have we got, then?

0:24:310:24:32

Er, we've got some pomfret here, he's got mackerels.

0:24:320:24:35

-He's got shrimps as well.

-Good.

0:24:350:24:37

They get the sea fish from outside, but let's look at this one.

0:24:370:24:41

This one seems good.

0:24:410:24:43

What... What's it called?

0:24:430:24:44

SHE TRANSLATES INTO LOCAL DIALECT

0:24:460:24:48

-Rohu? He says rohu.

-Rohu.

0:24:480:24:50

And this one?

0:24:500:24:52

STALLHOLDER SPEAKS IN LOCAL DIALECT

0:24:520:24:53

This is tengan. This is called tengan. It has only one bone inside.

0:24:530:24:58

So it's easier to make fillets out of this.

0:24:580:24:59

Oh, that would be good. A bit like...

0:24:590:25:01

So... So we'll buy this, right?

0:25:010:25:04

-Yeah, yeah, let's.

-Great.

0:25:040:25:05

SHE SPEAKS IN LOCAL DIALECT

0:25:050:25:07

Now, will they fillet it for you, or are you going to do it at home?

0:25:070:25:10

-He'll do it for me.

-OK.

0:25:100:25:12

He'll clean it up nice and proper and then fillet it.

0:25:120:25:15

Can we watch him do it?

0:25:150:25:16

Yeah, sure.

0:25:160:25:18

-He'll do it right before us.

-OK.

0:25:180:25:20

You see, he'll remove the bone for me.

0:25:200:25:22

Such a different way of filleting...

0:25:220:25:25

We do it with a knife, he's got his own sickle to do it.

0:25:250:25:28

I've asked him to remove the skin.

0:25:280:25:30

I don't want the skin in my mouth when I eat the curry.

0:25:300:25:34

It has to be smooth on your tongue.

0:25:340:25:36

And many a time, the curries, after they've been cooked, they are strained

0:25:360:25:40

so that you do not get any spices in your mouth, you just get the flavours.

0:25:400:25:45

Since she won that competition, she's now quite famous here in Lucknow

0:25:460:25:50

and has opened her own cookery school,

0:25:500:25:53

where she's going to show me how to cook this well-known Lucknowi fish curry.

0:25:530:25:57

So here are the poppy seeds.

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I'm going to roast them lightly.

0:26:000:26:02

So what's the importance of roasting things like the poppy seeds

0:26:020:26:05

and other spices?

0:26:050:26:07

When it comes in contact with the heat, the oils are released,

0:26:070:26:09

the flavours are released, they come out much better.

0:26:090:26:11

So here, I'm going to grind on this stone this poppy seed.

0:26:110:26:17

Take a little water...

0:26:170:26:19

Then I need to grind this.

0:26:190:26:20

So, um, why are you using a stone? Could you not use a processor?

0:26:200:26:24

No, Rick! No, I wouldn't.

0:26:240:26:26

Because the essential oils of all the spices are released -

0:26:260:26:30

they get ground, they are crushed.

0:26:300:26:32

So the taste is definitely better.

0:26:320:26:34

So it's much smoother and there's more flavour?

0:26:340:26:36

-Yes.

-Now what's next?

0:26:360:26:38

I'll just scoop this out and then I'm going to grind these whole spices here.

0:26:380:26:42

So we've got nutmeg,

0:26:420:26:43

cardamom, cloves, cumin seeds, black peppercorns, mace...

0:26:430:26:48

Yes.

0:26:480:26:49

..black cardamom, chilli powder?

0:26:490:26:51

Yes, chilli powder.

0:26:510:26:52

So add a little water as I go.

0:26:540:26:57

And you'll be surprised to know that, in days gone by,

0:26:570:27:00

people used to employ a man called a masalchi,

0:27:000:27:04

who would come in every morning and grind all the spices for the day.

0:27:040:27:08

So there was a special man assigned to do this job.

0:27:080:27:11

-A masalchi?

-Yes, a masalchi.

0:27:110:27:13

OK, so I'm going to take my curd here.

0:27:130:27:15

Yeah?

0:27:150:27:16

And, to this curd, I'm going to add the masala that I've just ground.

0:27:160:27:20

Good.

0:27:210:27:23

All of this.

0:27:230:27:24

I add the poppy seed that I've ground.

0:27:240:27:26

-Along with this goes red chilli powder.

-Red chilli powder.

0:27:260:27:30

Next?

0:27:300:27:31

-Then some salt, of course.

-Yeah, about half a teaspoon?

0:27:310:27:34

Er, yes, I'll have to check it later.

0:27:340:27:36

It's OK to taste things?

0:27:360:27:38

-For me, it is.

-OK.

0:27:380:27:40

-But in most families, yes, it is not.

-That's very interesting.

0:27:400:27:43

There's a term called "chuta" - it's not good enough to be served.

0:27:430:27:46

-Because you've tasted it, you can't serve it to anybody.

-Wow.

0:27:460:27:50

So after I've added the salt,

0:27:500:27:51

I'm going to add some ginger-garlic paste.

0:27:510:27:53

This is also fresh-ground.

0:27:530:27:55

This is some screw pine water.

0:27:550:27:58

And...

0:27:580:27:59

What is that?

0:27:590:28:01

That's a sweet perfume.

0:28:010:28:03

It's called "nita ithru".

0:28:030:28:05

Nita is sweet.

0:28:050:28:07

That's it.

0:28:070:28:08

And I am going to add some roast gram flour to this.

0:28:080:28:10

Chickpea flour?

0:28:100:28:11

-Yes, it is.

-OK.

0:28:110:28:13

And now let me give it a good mix.

0:28:130:28:15

-Can I taste it?

-Yeah, sure.

0:28:170:28:18

Thank you very much.

0:28:180:28:20

-Mm.

-Seasoning OK?

0:28:220:28:24

-Seasoning, really good.

-OK.

0:28:240:28:26

Cos I like salt and it's really nicely seasoned

0:28:260:28:28

cos you've got all that fish that you're going to cook that with.

0:28:280:28:31

-But the spices are lovely.

-Thank you.

0:28:310:28:33

-I mean, this is raw but it tastes delicious already.

-Thank you.

0:28:330:28:36

This is clarified butter.

0:28:360:28:38

-Ghee.

-Or ghee.

0:28:380:28:40

I am going to cover this ghee with some...fried onion.

0:28:400:28:44

Add my fish pieces over this.

0:28:440:28:48

I don't need to marinate it for too long.

0:28:480:28:50

-No.

-I just need to mix it in.

0:28:500:28:52

So I cover it up with this lid

0:28:540:28:55

and I am going to seal this with some dough.

0:28:550:28:58

Oh, right. So this is a dum pukht?

0:28:580:29:01

Yes, this is dum machli I am doing.

0:29:010:29:03

-Dum?

-Dum, yes.

0:29:030:29:05

Cooking in steam.

0:29:050:29:06

Cooking in its own steam.

0:29:060:29:08

So this method of cooking is called dum pukht,

0:29:080:29:10

and it's really common here.

0:29:100:29:12

It means, as I've just said, "cooked in steam".

0:29:120:29:15

And Pankaj said that even the charcoal flavours penetrate the cooking pot.

0:29:150:29:20

I can't see it myself, but she assures me it's true.

0:29:200:29:24

So how long will that take now then?

0:29:240:29:26

Should take at least 40 minutes.

0:29:260:29:28

OK. Fine.

0:29:280:29:29

She's also made a dhal.

0:29:330:29:35

It's a pigeon pea dhal, flavoured with cloves, cardamoms and yogurt.

0:29:350:29:39

On a betel leaf, she puts a hot lump of charcoal

0:29:390:29:42

and smothers it with ghee.

0:29:420:29:44

Again, she is trying to create a hint of smokiness in amongst the lentils.

0:29:440:29:50

She will remove it after a minute or so.

0:29:500:29:53

Now for the tarka,

0:29:530:29:54

the hot fried spices that give the dhal a real zing.

0:29:540:29:57

That's made with ghee, cumin seeds and garlic.

0:29:590:30:03

And that's the final flourish.

0:30:030:30:06

It's sprinkled with chopped green chillies and mint and that's it.

0:30:060:30:10

And then the fish.

0:30:130:30:15

She calls it tengan. It's a catfish as far as I can tell.

0:30:150:30:18

Very firm flesh, a good clean taste,

0:30:180:30:22

and I think I can smell a sort of barbecuey smokiness coming from the pot.

0:30:220:30:28

This woman really knows her stuff.

0:30:280:30:29

Mm-hmm.

0:30:350:30:37

-That's fabulous.

-Thank you.

0:30:400:30:41

You know what you were saying earlier about Lucknowis love soft?

0:30:410:30:45

-Yes.

-That's very, very refined.

0:30:450:30:49

-Yeah.

-I mean, this is so good.

0:30:490:30:50

How come we don't have more Lucknowi dishes in the world at large then?

0:30:500:30:56

The reason, Rick, is that

0:30:560:30:58

every recipe here is very secretly guarded.

0:30:580:31:02

It's passed on only to the family members.

0:31:020:31:04

And because of that, it is unable to spread to the world.

0:31:040:31:07

Well, I am beginning...

0:31:070:31:09

I tell you what, so far on our trip,

0:31:090:31:11

this is the finest cooking we've come across.

0:31:110:31:14

-Thank you.

-And you are a very good cook.

0:31:140:31:17

Thank you.

0:31:170:31:18

-I've just been watching you, you're very deft.

-Thank you.

0:31:180:31:22

Well, I think the overall impression from a few months in India

0:31:270:31:31

travelling and tasting everything is,

0:31:310:31:33

the more I know about Indian cooking the more I need to know.

0:31:330:31:37

But that's not saying I haven't learnt a great deal in the time.

0:31:370:31:42

I think, above all, it's the value of freshly ground spice.

0:31:420:31:47

I remember, for example, when we were in Bombay,

0:31:520:31:55

watching these pistons grinding the spice.

0:31:550:31:58

Of course, we named them the "spice pistons",

0:31:580:32:00

rather a good name for a band, don't you think?

0:32:000:32:03

But when you took the red chilli powder from out of that machine and smelled it,

0:32:030:32:09

there was just the most glorious chilli aromas.

0:32:090:32:12

A spice grinder is absolutely essential.

0:32:150:32:18

And one of the things that I sadly miss in the UK is a machine

0:32:180:32:22

that will grind wet and dry spices.

0:32:220:32:26

I remember the first time I came to India,

0:32:260:32:28

I left with a spice grinder about this big.

0:32:280:32:31

I actually bought this in India, this little baby here,

0:32:330:32:37

which works by just grinding the spice

0:32:370:32:39

that we are going to put there between two stones.

0:32:390:32:41

But it's just such a wonderful machine.

0:32:410:32:44

It is what I consider Royal Enfield or an old Roberts radio or something like that.

0:32:440:32:48

Reliable, '60s stuff.

0:32:480:32:50

First of all, some red onions for colour as well as the flavour of onions.

0:32:500:32:54

Don't worry about the fact that one of the wheels isn't going,

0:32:560:32:58

it doesn't work perfectly.

0:32:580:33:00

But indeed it does a wonderful job.

0:33:000:33:02

Nothing's perfect, least of all a Royal Enfield.

0:33:020:33:05

There we go. Now the ginger.

0:33:050:33:08

I promise you, this turns out impeccable masalas.

0:33:080:33:14

Look at it going.

0:33:140:33:16

I wanted the bigger one but I couldn't get it on the plane.

0:33:160:33:19

Oh, my gosh!

0:33:190:33:21

Going like a Trojan.

0:33:220:33:25

WHIRS LOUDLY

0:33:320:33:34

WHIRRING ECHOES

0:33:340:33:36

DUCK QUACKS

0:33:360:33:37

So now we're just going to transfer...

0:33:450:33:47

If I can find a cloth, this is a bit hot.

0:33:470:33:50

..my fried masala into this wonderful...

0:33:500:33:56

mixer/blender/liquidiser.

0:33:560:33:59

There we go, in it goes.

0:33:590:34:01

SPLASHES

0:34:050:34:06

BLEEP!

0:34:060:34:08

Just make sure the lid of your liquidiser is securely on,

0:34:130:34:17

otherwise hot oil could go over your shirt and your face,

0:34:170:34:22

or in my case, WILL go over your shirt and your face.

0:34:220:34:26

So, in nearly 20 years, what's changed?

0:34:300:34:33

The hair.

0:34:330:34:35

-Yeah.

-Teeth.

0:34:350:34:37

-Yeah.

-Erm, the weight.

0:34:370:34:40

OK, OK, thank you, thank you, Dave!

0:34:400:34:43

In Lucknow, I had the best chicken korma ever.

0:34:450:34:47

Very delicate and creamy.

0:34:470:34:49

It was made by Rocky Mohan,

0:34:500:34:52

a passionate cook who's written many cookery books.

0:34:520:34:56

However, he and his wife, Raka,

0:34:560:34:59

have some misgivings about the word curry.

0:34:590:35:02

-Now, I just want to ask you something.

-Tell me.

0:35:020:35:04

-With my mouth full.

-Yes.

0:35:040:35:06

I'm sure it's as bad manners here as it is back home, but...

0:35:060:35:10

what...what do you take by the word curry?

0:35:100:35:13

We don't have the word curry in our language at all.

0:35:130:35:16

It's unfair to call our variety as under one major head as curry.

0:35:160:35:21

I think the word curry is coined by the British themselves.

0:35:210:35:26

I think that when they lived in India

0:35:260:35:30

and they were eating at various parts of India,

0:35:300:35:34

so the one single word that they thought would carry the message

0:35:340:35:38

to the kind of food

0:35:380:35:39

they wanted to have, which had gravy, so they called it curry.

0:35:390:35:42

And one thing that I must point out,

0:35:420:35:45

the worst thing that ever happened to Indian food

0:35:450:35:48

is the madras curry powder.

0:35:480:35:50

Absolutely horrendous stuff,

0:35:500:35:52

and you go and add it to just about everything,

0:35:520:35:55

they all taste the same.

0:35:550:35:56

And it was turmeric,

0:35:560:35:58

lots of turmeric, lots of coriander seed powder,

0:35:580:36:01

some cumin and all dumped together and tasted horrible.

0:36:010:36:06

Oh, dear! I can't agree with that!

0:36:070:36:10

I think I'm right in saying that we British fell madly,

0:36:100:36:13

deeply in love with curry.

0:36:130:36:15

First through curry powder

0:36:150:36:17

and then through the thousands of so-called Indian restaurants

0:36:170:36:20

that spread to virtually every high street in the land.

0:36:200:36:24

It's one of those curious things

0:36:290:36:31

but although India got her independence in 1947,

0:36:310:36:34

they wouldn't allow any Indians

0:36:340:36:36

to join the Madras Club until the early '60s.

0:36:360:36:39

It's unbelievable.

0:36:390:36:41

I'm here because of the most famous soup in India,

0:36:410:36:45

the one created in the heyday of the Raj by the British.

0:36:450:36:49

It's not often that strangers

0:36:490:36:51

get invited into these hallowed, erm, grounds.

0:36:510:36:55

So I feel, you know, very, very lucky.

0:36:550:36:58

But more so that they're actually making mulligatawny soup for me

0:36:580:37:02

because, as I understand it, this is where it came from.

0:37:020:37:06

He's starting off by making a paste.

0:37:060:37:08

We've got some coriander seeds, cumin seeds, black pepper seeds,

0:37:080:37:12

ginger, garlic, mint, turmeric, water going in here.

0:37:120:37:17

-Is that garam masala or...

-It's a curry powder.

0:37:170:37:20

Curry powder. Curry powder? Wow.

0:37:200:37:22

Curry powder!

0:37:220:37:23

Madras!

0:37:230:37:25

BLENDER WHIRS

0:37:270:37:30

How popular is mulligatawny soup in the club?

0:37:300:37:33

It's very popular. It is our signature dish.

0:37:330:37:36

However, the most popular dish is the roast lamb,

0:37:360:37:38

grilled chicken, and we have shepherd's pie.

0:37:380:37:42

-These are the very most popular dish.

-Wow!

0:37:420:37:45

I would certainly feel at home.

0:37:450:37:47

So that pungent green chloroformy paste goes into a saucepan with carrots, leeks,

0:37:490:37:55

celery, onions, cardamom and tomatoes.

0:37:550:37:58

They've already been fried with cloves and cinnamon.

0:38:000:38:02

And now the chicken.

0:38:020:38:05

Add a tablespoon of flour and turmeric.

0:38:070:38:10

Chicken stock, water.

0:38:140:38:16

A tadge more turmeric.

0:38:180:38:19

And then simmer for at least half an hour,

0:38:200:38:23

until the chicken is cooked.

0:38:230:38:25

Coconut milk.

0:38:280:38:30

And now two teaspoonfuls of salt.

0:38:310:38:34

And then sieve.

0:38:340:38:36

A squeeze of fresh lime.

0:38:370:38:40

I know they look like lemons, but they're limes.

0:38:400:38:43

And then rice.

0:38:430:38:44

And voila.

0:38:440:38:47

The first mulligatawny I've tasted for 20 years.

0:38:470:38:51

That is very nice indeed.

0:38:510:38:53

It's really intense in flavour.

0:38:530:38:55

And what's interesting, it's really hot, but there's no chilli in it.

0:38:550:38:59

It's just hot with black pepper.

0:38:590:39:01

I'm rather saddened, really, because you used to be able buy

0:39:010:39:04

tins of mulligatawny soup

0:39:040:39:06

very easily in the UK,

0:39:060:39:07

but I guess the taste for it has just...has gone.

0:39:070:39:10

Partly, I suspect,

0:39:100:39:12

because the tinned soup tasted nothing like this.

0:39:120:39:15

This is thick and absolutely full of lovely green, spicy flavour.

0:39:150:39:20

CAR HORN BEEPS

0:39:320:39:34

This is my daily journey

0:39:340:39:35

from the bungalow where I'm cooking to the market.

0:39:350:39:39

Looking out of the window is far better than watching the telly.

0:39:390:39:42

Everywhere a picture

0:39:420:39:44

and every picture a clue to what India is all about.

0:39:440:39:48

I keep seeing all this different-coloured bunting everywhere.

0:40:040:40:07

I've just passed through an area of silver bunting.

0:40:070:40:09

And I asked a local and he said,

0:40:090:40:12

"Well, if it's silver and white, it's for the Christians.

0:40:120:40:15

"If it's yellow, it's for the Hindus.

0:40:150:40:17

"If it's green, it's for the Muslims.

0:40:170:40:19

"And if it's red, it's for the Communists."

0:40:190:40:22

I think that says quite a lot about Kerala, really.

0:40:220:40:25

I like coming here.

0:40:330:40:35

This is a great little market.

0:40:350:40:36

The vegetables are so cheap.

0:40:360:40:39

You know, I could easily buy enough to feed a couple of dozen people

0:40:390:40:42

for just a few pounds.

0:40:420:40:44

It's a good place to think about food and decide what I'm about to cook.

0:40:440:40:49

I never feel like a tourist in a market.

0:40:500:40:52

I may not know every vegetable and spice but I feel I'm part of it.

0:40:520:40:57

They're making poppadoms here.

0:40:590:41:01

They're made with gram flour. That's chickpea flour.

0:41:010:41:04

When they're fried, they give so much enjoyment with chutneys,

0:41:040:41:08

pickles, fruit mixed with onions and accompanied by a cold beer,

0:41:080:41:12

in anticipation of a really good curry to come.

0:41:120:41:15

I think it was the poppadom that was the spur that made us

0:41:190:41:22

all go to Indian restaurants in the '50s and '60s.

0:41:220:41:25

Because although you could get a curry of sorts back at home,

0:41:250:41:28

you'd never get a poppadom.

0:41:280:41:31

OIL SIZZLES

0:41:320:41:33

Note in the margin.

0:41:330:41:35

If your poppadoms are soggy, leave the restaurant immediately

0:41:350:41:39

because the curry won't be very good. You've been warned!

0:41:390:41:41

Well, this is the most popular vegetable dish in Kerala,

0:41:450:41:49

I would suggest. It's called thoran.

0:41:490:41:52

You find it everywhere and the great thing about it is it's an easy way

0:41:520:41:57

of using whatever's fresh and beautiful

0:41:570:41:59

in the market on a daily basis.

0:41:590:42:01

Now, I've just got some coconut oil in the pan there.

0:42:010:42:04

I'm just going to add about a teaspoon of mustard seeds,

0:42:040:42:07

a teaspoon of cumin seeds

0:42:070:42:10

and a handful of curry leaves.

0:42:100:42:13

OIL SIZZLES

0:42:130:42:15

Now I'm going to just break a couple of dried red chillies in there.

0:42:150:42:18

Just stir that round a little bit.

0:42:200:42:22

And now, through the wonders of modern kitchen equipment,

0:42:240:42:28

I'm going to grate some ginger, whole fresh ginger to add that to.

0:42:280:42:33

It's just a little bit hot and I've done the ginger.

0:42:330:42:35

I might just add a little bit of water just to bring the temperature down a bit.

0:42:350:42:39

I'm doing this because I've seen them do it all over India

0:42:390:42:43

and that's before I add the turmeric,

0:42:430:42:45

because I don't want the turmeric to burn at all.

0:42:450:42:49

Just get the rest of the ginger off there.

0:42:490:42:51

Now then.

0:42:510:42:53

There we go.

0:42:530:42:55

And now for my turmeric.

0:42:550:42:57

I mean, I just...love this vegetable dish.

0:42:580:43:02

What I think is really good about it

0:43:020:43:05

is that it's flavoured with coconuts,

0:43:050:43:08

first, obviously, with the coconut oil,

0:43:080:43:10

but at the end I'm going to put in some grated fresh coconut.

0:43:100:43:13

And there's virtually no water in it so it's very, very concentrated.

0:43:130:43:18

There we go, just add in the turmeric

0:43:180:43:20

and now some freshly-ground black pepper,

0:43:200:43:23

about a teaspoon, I suppose.

0:43:230:43:26

And them some salt.

0:43:260:43:27

Just under a teaspoon.

0:43:270:43:29

And now for my vegetables.

0:43:300:43:32

Now, you make thoran, as I've said,

0:43:320:43:34

with whatever comes out of the market -

0:43:340:43:37

spinach, cabbage and, in this case, carrots.

0:43:370:43:42

They call these English vegetables

0:43:420:43:44

because they're not originally from Kerala.

0:43:440:43:47

I must say, the carrots here are absolutely wonderful.

0:43:470:43:51

And then cabbage. Very finely chopped up.

0:43:510:43:53

Everything in a thoran is very finely chopped up.

0:43:530:43:56

Stir that around, until it is thoroughly amalgamated

0:43:560:44:02

and then I'm just going to

0:44:020:44:03

put a lid on and leave it to cook very gently for about five minutes,

0:44:030:44:09

just to cook the vegetables.

0:44:090:44:11

But what I really like to do with the carrot is just leave it

0:44:110:44:15

with a little bit of crunch when I serve up the dish.

0:44:150:44:18

I just put on the lid and wait for about five minutes.

0:44:180:44:23

Have you thought of bringing another shirt with you?

0:44:230:44:25

I know, Dave, but it's so hot

0:44:250:44:27

I don't even think the dog likes being around me!

0:44:270:44:30

So, now that should be ready

0:44:300:44:33

for the final addition, which is first of all some freshly-grated coconut.

0:44:330:44:39

That is so important in there,

0:44:390:44:41

it just gives it a real sort of lightness.

0:44:410:44:43

It just goes in at the last minute.

0:44:430:44:45

In fact, some people don't even stir it in,

0:44:450:44:47

they just leave it on the top.

0:44:470:44:49

And finally, some sliced green chillies.

0:44:490:44:53

So it is quite hot, no doubt about that.

0:44:530:44:56

But, erm, everyone loves chillies in Kerala.

0:44:580:45:02

Now, I just sort of thought it might be tempting fate, but Ashok,

0:45:040:45:09

whose house this is we're filming, is just nearby.

0:45:090:45:13

I might just ask him if he'd like to come and try one of his

0:45:130:45:17

traditional Keralan dishes cooked by an Englishman.

0:45:170:45:22

Would you mind?

0:45:220:45:23

Of course, Rick, I'd like to taste your dish.

0:45:230:45:25

It looks really original.

0:45:250:45:26

-Does it?

-Yeah, it does.

0:45:260:45:28

Just like how Malli serves it at home.

0:45:280:45:30

-Let's see if it tastes the same.

-Oh, gosh! Here we go!

0:45:300:45:33

-OK. A little taste, OK?

-It might be a bit hot.

0:45:330:45:36

-You've got it, Rick.

-Oh, gosh, Ashok! You are nice!

0:45:380:45:40

You've got the taste!

0:45:400:45:42

It's really nice.

0:45:420:45:44

I'm going to take one more.

0:45:440:45:46

-Thank you.

-Thank you!

0:45:460:45:48

-You've made my day.

-Lovely.

0:45:480:45:51

-Good.

-Thank you, Rick.

-Thank you!

0:45:510:45:53

FISHERMEN CHANT

0:45:590:46:01

These fishermen have been out all night.

0:46:090:46:12

There's about seven or eight in each crew and what impresses me

0:46:120:46:15

is how strong they are, getting these boats up.

0:46:150:46:19

I love the chant as they're pulling,

0:46:190:46:22

trying to get themselves the strength to pull the boat up the beach.

0:46:220:46:25

MEN CHANT

0:46:290:46:31

Sometimes when we're bumping along in our minibus from one dusty town to another,

0:46:330:46:38

I think people think everything about filming is fun, but it's not, to be honest.

0:46:380:46:43

A lot of the time you're hot, you're sweaty,

0:46:430:46:45

you're trying to think of something yet again wonderful to say

0:46:450:46:48

about another mutton curry,

0:46:480:46:50

but this morning, it's really turned up trumps.

0:46:500:46:55

I mean, this is seriously what filming is all about for me.

0:46:550:46:59

I'm coming to the end of my stay here now.

0:47:020:47:04

And I'm going to cook the best fish curry ever,

0:47:040:47:08

for all the people who've made my time here so enormously pleasurable.

0:47:080:47:13

As it's such a special day,

0:47:130:47:15

I thought I'd get a really special fish for the curry, snapper -

0:47:150:47:19

firm and fresh tasting.

0:47:190:47:22

Truth to tell, I first tasted this many weeks ago

0:47:240:47:28

on the Coromandel Coast.

0:47:280:47:30

Where the early pumpkins blow.

0:47:300:47:31

I wasn't expecting very much from a cafe on the beach,

0:47:330:47:37

but when it was served to me, in all its gold and red glory,

0:47:370:47:41

I thought, "Blimey, this is the one."

0:47:410:47:44

That is just simply perfect.

0:47:480:47:50

I mean, the fish is so fresh, it's... You can taste the sea.

0:47:500:47:53

You know, when it's dead fresh fish like that.

0:47:530:47:55

Nobody ever gets it wrong when it's fresh like that.

0:47:550:47:59

So would you put that on your list of best curries?

0:47:590:48:02

Would I?!

0:48:020:48:03

I mean, seriously, for me, and I think I'm a bit biased, I have to say,

0:48:030:48:08

but fish curry like this...

0:48:080:48:10

..could be...could be the one.

0:48:120:48:14

And, so, this is it, the final countdown.

0:48:180:48:21

Some of the guests have arrived already.

0:48:210:48:23

Ashok's busy with his flute,

0:48:230:48:26

and it'll take about 30 minutes from now to make this perfect curry.

0:48:260:48:31

This is local snapper and I must say it is lovely, steaky fish,

0:48:330:48:38

ideal for a curry.

0:48:380:48:39

I'm keeping the skin on to keep it together

0:48:390:48:42

but I suspect there's going to be some really nice sort of fattiness,

0:48:420:48:46

which I adore, just under the skin.

0:48:460:48:48

So I'm really looking forward to cooking this.

0:48:480:48:51

Now then...just nip...and wash my hands.

0:48:530:48:56

It's so very pleasant, this kitchen.

0:48:590:49:01

It's got everything you need -

0:49:010:49:03

an outdoor field, running cold water and a pet snake.

0:49:030:49:06

Now then.

0:49:080:49:09

Into...making the curry.

0:49:090:49:12

Triple batch, so lots and lots of vegetable oil

0:49:130:49:16

in the bottom of my karahi.

0:49:160:49:17

Hope it's going to be big enough for all this.

0:49:170:49:20

And then two to three teaspoons of yellow mustard seeds.

0:49:200:49:24

I'm just going to let them brown slightly.

0:49:240:49:27

Fab.

0:49:300:49:32

So, in they go.

0:49:320:49:34

Can't tell you how important it is

0:49:350:49:38

to cook the onions for a good long time.

0:49:380:49:40

This is going to be about ten minutes.

0:49:400:49:42

But I'm rewarded by a wonderful aroma of cooking onions.

0:49:420:49:47

And the mustard seeds are adding immeasurably to that.

0:49:470:49:51

Now, we've got about ten cloves of garlic, Indian cloves.

0:49:520:49:57

-I'm going to miss this.

-BANGS PAN

0:49:570:49:59

I know I'm a bit pathetic about my pans,

0:49:590:50:01

but this has been my friend all through these cooking sequences.

0:50:010:50:06

It's perfect, it's got real thickness

0:50:060:50:08

and therefore, it holds the heat.

0:50:080:50:11

Once it's up to heat, nothing seems to burn too much.

0:50:110:50:14

OK, now curry leaves.

0:50:140:50:17

Sometimes you put curry leaves in at the end,

0:50:170:50:20

but in a lot of dishes

0:50:200:50:21

you put them in right at the beginning and fry them.

0:50:210:50:24

When I think, when the curry leaves first got to the UK

0:50:240:50:28

and you had them in little jars and they were dried, a bit like parsley,

0:50:280:50:33

you can't be using those.

0:50:330:50:35

Got to use the fresh ones, and if you can't get 'em -

0:50:350:50:38

or frozen, they're good - leave 'em out.

0:50:380:50:40

OK, now some turmeric.

0:50:400:50:42

About a heaped teaspoon for this large portion of madras fish curry.

0:50:420:50:47

But I am going to be quite serious with my chilli.

0:50:470:50:52

Probably about four teaspoons.

0:50:520:50:54

Kashmiri chilli... Let's make it five.

0:50:540:50:57

Just Kashmiri chilli, it's not too hot.

0:50:570:50:59

I tend to prefer that to any other,

0:50:590:51:02

because you get that lovely red colour

0:51:020:51:05

and you don't get searing heat.

0:51:050:51:07

There we go, in that goes, and now a lot of freshly ground coriander.

0:51:070:51:12

One, two, three, four.

0:51:120:51:15

Good. Stir that around.

0:51:150:51:18

Not too long, about 30 seconds. I don't want it to burn.

0:51:190:51:24

And now I'm going to put some tomato in.

0:51:240:51:26

A lot of tomato, cos there's a lot of curry.

0:51:260:51:29

Now, the most...apart from the snapper, apart from the fish...

0:51:330:51:38

the most important ingredient...

0:51:380:51:41

is tamarind water, or tamarind liquor, cos it's really thick.

0:51:410:51:46

I'm going to put all that in there.

0:51:460:51:48

A very lovely souring agent used all over Southern India.

0:51:480:51:54

Look at that now.

0:51:540:51:56

What I love about this curry is it's got very few ingredients,

0:51:560:52:01

everything is cooked at the last minute, as it should be with fish.

0:52:010:52:04

And now some chillies.

0:52:050:52:08

About four or five green chillies.

0:52:080:52:12

Stir that in.

0:52:120:52:13

Beautiful.

0:52:140:52:16

And now some salt.

0:52:160:52:18

This is the sort of dish I like.

0:52:200:52:22

In goes the salt, couple of teaspoons.

0:52:220:52:25

Stir that in.

0:52:250:52:26

And, next, the fish.

0:52:270:52:30

And then it's done.

0:52:300:52:32

So wonderful about fish dishes,

0:52:330:52:36

so easy, so simple to cook.

0:52:360:52:39

Look at that. Beautiful, firm snapper.

0:52:390:52:43

Now, then. Just stir that in,

0:52:430:52:46

carefully.

0:52:460:52:49

It won't break up very easily but once

0:52:490:52:53

I've got the heat going again

0:52:530:52:54

and it's starting to cook, I won't stir it any more

0:52:540:52:58

cos I don't want those lovely chunks to break up.

0:52:580:53:01

Now, then, just going to have a little taste of this,

0:53:030:53:06

to make sure I've got the seasoning right.

0:53:060:53:08

Oh!

0:53:120:53:14

That's my sort of dish.

0:53:140:53:16

It's just so fresh with all that tamarind and tomato,

0:53:160:53:19

the sort of green flavours,

0:53:190:53:22

and it'll just suit this fish perfectly.

0:53:220:53:25

So, there it is, my perfect madras fish curry.

0:53:250:53:29

Erm, excuse me.

0:53:290:53:30

Shouldn't it be more correct in saying, erm, Chennai fish curry?

0:53:300:53:35

Chennai fish curry?

0:53:350:53:37

Do you want me to get a bit grumpy?

0:53:370:53:39

Because I'm perfectly capable of it, but...

0:53:390:53:41

what does Chennai mean to me, you know?

0:53:410:53:44

I mean, I was born and brought up on madras curry powder,

0:53:440:53:47

the Indian restaurants with hot madras curries.

0:53:470:53:51

No way!

0:53:510:53:53

I'm sorry!

0:53:530:53:54

I know it's politically, perfectly correct, but not for me, no.

0:53:540:53:58

That's a proper Indian curry.

0:54:000:54:02

MELODIC FLUTE

0:54:060:54:10

I really did enjoy cooking that.

0:54:130:54:16

And it's funny how cooking certain dishes really makes you come alive.

0:54:160:54:20

Malli made a dhal to go with the fish,

0:54:200:54:23

and I just hope that people are hungry.

0:54:230:54:26

I'm not too worried about what they think because I know, being a cook,

0:54:270:54:31

or a fish cook, for nearly 40 years, it's going to be absolutely spot-on.

0:54:310:54:38

I hope there's enough to go around.

0:54:380:54:40

Well, I hope there's enough to go around, too.

0:54:400:54:42

-Rick, it's delicious.

-Oh!

0:54:420:54:44

And I love the spin of the tomatoes on the fish curry.

0:54:440:54:47

-LAUGHS

-See?

0:54:470:54:48

-Ooh, sorry.

-Are you going to have some?

0:54:480:54:50

I always think they're only saying it to be nice.

0:54:500:54:53

But...it's very good fish, I must say.

0:54:530:54:57

Really nice.

0:55:090:55:10

It's an Indian curry, a good curry, fish curry.

0:55:100:55:13

Very, very... Yeah, I like it a lot.

0:55:130:55:15

We love our fish nice and tart and spicy - and got it.

0:55:160:55:20

It was very rich, very good.

0:55:200:55:23

Oh, it's actually fabulous.

0:55:230:55:25

It tastes very, very good. Very good.

0:55:250:55:28

Well, this is my darling wife, Sarah.

0:55:280:55:29

Sassie, what do you think of the fish curry?

0:55:290:55:31

Ricky, I think it's kalam.

0:55:310:55:33

Kalam? What does that mean?

0:55:330:55:35

Bloody good.

0:55:350:55:36

LAUGHS

0:55:360:55:39

So, Rick, final goodbye and I am really going to miss you.

0:55:390:55:41

Same here.

0:55:410:55:43

-Bye.

-Goodbye, Ashok. It's been lovely.

0:55:440:55:46

I'd give you a kiss but it's probably not the right thing.

0:55:460:55:49

We'll see you soon. OK.

0:55:490:55:50

LAUGHTER

0:55:500:55:53

Thank you, India, for a mind-blasting curry extravaganza.

0:55:550:56:00

People said to me before I came here

0:56:090:56:11

that I wouldn't get such a nice curry as we get back at home.

0:56:110:56:16

To those people, I say unto them,

0:56:160:56:19

try and get out a bit more - it broadens your horizons.

0:56:190:56:22

The generosity I received was overwhelming.

0:56:220:56:24

The dishes I tasted, not all of them, but most,

0:56:240:56:28

were full of beautiful spice.

0:56:280:56:32

And it was the sort of food that made you think.

0:56:320:56:35

Much in the same way that a book or a painting

0:56:350:56:37

can stimulate the little grey cells.

0:56:370:56:39

I've said this before,

0:56:390:56:41

but once the thought of a curry enters your head,

0:56:410:56:44

then nothing else will do.

0:56:440:56:46

Not a Chinese, not a pizza, not a burger. It has to be a curry.

0:56:460:56:52

The curries in the North, eaten with bread, were full of ghee and cream

0:56:520:56:56

and chillies, of course.

0:56:560:56:58

So different from those in the South, made with tamarind and curry leaf.

0:56:580:57:01

I loved the fish curries, cooked in mustard oil and coconut, from Calcutta.

0:57:220:57:27

They were really deep and satisfying.

0:57:270:57:29

And the pulaos from Lucknow.

0:57:290:57:30

Would you say this was perfect?

0:57:300:57:32

I liked going into the kitchens of the fishing families

0:57:390:57:42

to see how they made something really special from that day's catch.

0:57:420:57:47

Oh, this was really special,

0:57:480:57:50

the best-known street food in Bombay.

0:57:500:57:52

-Wow!

-What do you think?

0:57:540:57:55

Pav bhaji, once eaten, never forgotten.

0:57:550:58:00

What brilliant mind said it? But I think it's so true -

0:58:000:58:03

that to understand a country, first of all, you have to eat it.

0:58:030:58:08

And I just did.

0:58:080:58:10

And it was delicious.

0:58:100:58:12

THEY SING IN LOCAL DIALECT

0:58:120:58:14

That's a mind-blasting curry, Ricky!

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