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Good morning. We've got some amazing food ready to be served.

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It's time for Saturday Kitchen Best Bites.

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Welcome to the show.

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We've got a great line-up of hungry celebrity guests

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ready to be fed by some pretty talented chefs this morning.

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One of the finest chefs India has ever produced, Vivek Singh,

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is embracing game season with his grouse stir-fry.

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He serves it with a hot and sweet pumpkin chutney.

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Duck is on the menu thanks to Silvena Rowe.

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She glazes duck breast with a pomegranate molasses

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and serves it with bulgur wheat, chickpeas and a pomegranate pilaf.

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France meets the Far East when Frenchman Stephane Reynaud

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cooks a not-so-French stir-fry.

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He takes pork fillet and creates a sweet and sour sauce

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from scratch to produce a mouthwatering meal.

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And Freddie Flintoff faced his Food Heaven or Food Hell.

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Would he get his Food Heaven - fishfingers, with my home-made

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posh haddock fishfingers, chips, beans and tartare sauce?

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Or would he get his dreaded Food Hell - chicken,

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with a harissa chicken and potato stew with herb chickpea salad?

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You can find out what he gets to eat at the end of the show.

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But first, it's the king of sustainable cooking,

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Arthur Potts Dawson, and he's going to show us

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something a little different to do with mackerel.

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-Good to have you on the show.

-Thanks for having me.

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Now, explain to us this recipe.

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OK, I want to do a very simple grilled mackerel.

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I want to cook these and these very quickly.

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The potato's already cooked. It'll only take a little bit of time.

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If you could peel those for me while we're talking...

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It's boiling, a little bit of frying and some char-grilling.

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OK. So the name of this dish is what?

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Char-grilled mackerel with cauliflower, French beans

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and a horseradish and cardamom.

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Horseradish and cardamom?

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Yeah, cardamom is something that...

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-If we can get the cauliflower and beans in first...

-OK.

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The cardamom, it's an amazing flavour. It just adds...

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People really don't know what that flavour is.

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You hate the idea of mackerel, don't you?

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What about cardamom?

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Yeah, not first thing in the morning.

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Not first thing in the morning, bit of mackerel?

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The secret with mackerel, I think, Arthur, is the freshness of it.

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Yeah. If you can just see how fresh this is...

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-It's unbelievable - so, so good.

-And you test that by

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looking at the eyes, I think, fundamentally.

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I can tell now I've opened it up -

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you can really see the quality of the flesh.

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It's just... It's firm,

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and there's rigor mortis still in this fish. It's so fresh.

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And you like sustainable fish - you use it a lot?

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Yeah, I use a lot of mackerel,

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so I hope I'm not hitting the mackerel stocks too hard but, yeah,

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I mean, I'm trying to stay clear of turbot and anything

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that is actually becoming endangered, because I don't think

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we're deserving of taking out a whole species just to eat it.

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But I mean... Talking about your restaurant, it's not just the food

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that you're looking at as well, but the power?

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You run your own... How do you get your own power?

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50 solar panels heating my water up, and I've got photovoltaic cells,

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which take the temperature out of the water when it hits the building,

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so we've got some pretty crazy, wacky ways of creating our own power,

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and it's all coming from the sun and water, so it's sustainable energy.

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Let me talk a little bit about this mackerel, though.

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The bones that run through the middle of this fish, you can get rid of them

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quite easily just by cutting through and across, and you can pull it out,

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if you can see what I'm doing here. Just pull out those bones.

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Really, really easy.

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So let me throw that away. You can compost that, by the way.

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You can compost it, of course.

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Not only that... Last time I spoke to you, you'd got a barge.

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We've got the barge now, yeah. We've just spent £20,000 on it.

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We've got a composted toilet and we've got solar panelling

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and turbines, all kinds of things on it.

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That's parked outside the restaurant, so that's good fun.

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We've got kids coming and checking it out and...

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Whereabouts is it, if people want to come and visit it?

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The second one's in Shoreditch, and that is in Hackney,

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so it's regenerating the area, and the first one was in King's Cross,

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-and that's nearly two years old now.

-OK.

-Doing really well.

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-I want to put some cardamom on this.

-I'll do you some cardamom.

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There's little black seeds inside there.

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If you can mill it like a fresh peppercorn...

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If you break open cardamom pods,

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they've got little cardamom seeds. There you go.

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See them in there? They look like mouse droppings. Look at them.

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Which you don't want in your kitchen.

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Right. Let me just take that off there.

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-Now, the flavour's quite traditional in Indian food, isn't it, cardamom?

-Yes.

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-I quite like cardamom and chocolate.

-Cardamom and chocolate's lovely.

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You take out the seeds, you don't eat the husk.

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-So we've got the mackerel.

-Mackerel.

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I want to put a little bit of salt.

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If you can just get that cardamom touching that there...

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I'll put some in the grinder as well.

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And then I've got this horseradish.

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It's quite aggressive, quite a strong flavour.

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And you were saying that if you plant it, it's aggressive, too.

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Oh, it's a nightmare.

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My chef, Chris, who planted some horseradish last year...

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In fact, about three years ago, in my garden...

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Now I can't get rid of it.

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No matter how much you dig it out, it just keeps coming back.

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It's horrendous stuff.

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Right, so I've got some capers here. Thank you very much.

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If you smell it, it's just like peppercorns.

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It's a really good trick to use. Not too much. It's very strong,

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but if you smell...

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Yeah, cos normally, cardamom, you just put the pods in...

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If you can smell it... It's an amazing flavour. That's marinating.

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OK.

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-Mmm.

-I've got some olive oil in the pan...

-Very strong.

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-I want to put a little bit...

-That'll wake you up in the morning!

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-It's good! It really gets the...

-The potatoes, you want me to peel these?

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-Please, if you can peel those capers. Er, potatoes. The capers go in.

-Yeah?

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Apart from the restaurants you've been opening,

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travelled to France for some inspiration lately?

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Yeah, I went to France with my kids.

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Hadn't seen them for two years - I've been working so hard.

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-They've grown up!

-Yeah?

-They get big, these things.

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But going to France... French food has kind of stayed the same

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but the inspiration's still on the great ingredients...

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The ingredients are unbelievable. Just the peaches and the tomatoes...

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And they do really good oysters. I had some fantastic mussels.

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They really know how to look after their country.

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Was this some inspiration for your new book,

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or is it already written now?

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The book's out

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but, you know, who knows? You can always write another one.

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No, it's more inspiration just for myself.

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But the book hasn't got any pictures in it?

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I have got a book that... Yeah, it's recycled paper, no pictures.

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It's like a story on food.

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It's a book with character and it's also a training manual.

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It goes through every month and I want the trainees

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at the restaurant - I've got ten trainees now - to read it and

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try and understand the seasons, what's on sale and all that stuff.

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What have you got there - capers?

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I've got capers going in here, I have got the garlic going in here.

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-Calm that down.

-And anchovy. Quite a lot of anchovies?

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I've got a lot of anchovy in there because I haven't used much salt,

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and I wanted to use that as a seasoning.

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It's a little bit like soy sauce.

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If you reduce it too much, you end up with it too salty,

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so that's going to be my sauce for the vegetables in here.

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And the fish can go on straightaway?

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This is really, really hot.

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This is going to cook in literally two minutes.

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Don't be afraid to cook it for that little amount of time.

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-Look at the smoke coming off.

-Look at that.

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Mother, try doing that next to your net curtains - lovely!

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OK, we're nearly there now. This is going to turn over.

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These vegetables, just going to pass these off.

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So I've created a sauce inside this pan,

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with the capers and the garlic,

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and that's actually... I'll just get that bit of garlic out.

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The griddle that you've got there, it's extremely hot.

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-You put no oil on the fish?

-Nothing, no.

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This fish is oily enough and it'll turn over nicely.

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-You can use anything, but I'll use this.

-You can just pan-fry them...

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You could pan-fry it, yeah, you can put it under a grill...

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If I just turn that over, that is perfect.

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And again... And the thing about it is if you cook fish too much

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and try to lift it up, it falls apart.

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If it stays raw like that, you're OK.

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-You could probably just lift that off and let it cool down.

-Yeah, OK.

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-Just get this...

-There's your potatoes.

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Turn everything off, save the power. Thank you very much.

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Because they're still warm, you can put them in now. That's fine.

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Let's just...

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That's probably enough.

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-That's enough, James.

-OK. No problem.

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Thank you. Right. And a spoon...

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And literally just start plating.

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And the cardamom in there, the horseradish will give you the pepper.

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I haven't put any pepper in this dish at all.

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And no salt,

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-because of the anchovies.

-Exactly.

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This goes out on the bottom of the plate. This is...

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I just love the colours. Look at the colours on that.

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-Right. Can I use that?

-Yep, you can use that.

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Now, go with the thickest part of the fish

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so you can pick up the heaviest part.

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Yeah.

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Put that on the plate. And again this side.

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That is perfect.

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Now, a little bit of these shiso leaves, and they're great

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because they lift up the...

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I know Nic loves all these, the little Japanese leaves.

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And they're really good for you, too.

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So a few of those, a splash of olive oil

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-and we are done.

-So remind us what that is again.

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Char-grilled mackerel,

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anchovies, cauliflower,

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potatoes and French beans, simply served as a salad.

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-Easy as that.

-Yeah.

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There you go. Right. Smells great.

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-JAMES MARTIN LAUGHS

-There you go.

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Now... What was it about mackerel that put you off?

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Have a seat over here, Arthur. There you go.

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I think it was... You know sometimes it kind of repeats on yourself,

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you know?

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When you're on first class, on your way to Manchester on the train,

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it's there,

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and a couple of times, I've arrived at the meeting, I've walked in

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and they've just walked out, so I thought mackerel and me...

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But it's been there backwards and forwards between Newcastle and

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Manchester! Have a taste of that one, see what you think.

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I think the secret of mackerel is what we said -

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it's got to be absolutely fresh.

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I mean, mackerel, when it's really, really fresh, you can

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serve it raw, with a little bit of mustard on it.

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-It is such an amazingly versatile fish.

-First-class rail, or...

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It's very good for you.

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You know what?

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-It's pretty good, that, isn't it?

-That is Virgin upper class.

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-THEY LAUGH

-It's pretty good, isn't it?

-Now, that is...

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I tell you what, it's because it is so fresh.

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I think the freshness is what's made that unique.

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I think what it needs...

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I think it just needs a second opinion, so let me try...

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Er, hold on.

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If you can, you can buy the fish whole and it stays fresh.

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Here it comes. It's a 9.37.

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I'm still gutted that you got one point more than me. There you go.

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Have a taste of that, girls. You must have tried mackerel?

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-Yes.

-Yes.

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Do you use much mackerel in the restaurant, Nic?

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Not a lot. We did an escabeche with it. You're saying raw.

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It was literally cooked in ponzu, a vinegar,

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and we served it on rice.

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Mackerel, for me, as I was saying earlier as well,

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is just one of the best fish. It's beautiful. It's really...

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-Chefs love it, but they don't have it in the restaurant. They have it at home.

-Exactly, because it's cheap.

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That's why.

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And if I'm coming round for dinner, you can definitely leave out the horseradish.

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Coming up, I'll be cooking a rib eye steak with deep-fried

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onion rings and onion butter for West End star Elaine Paige,

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but first, Rick Stein is on the hunt for more of his food heroes,

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and today he samples the delights of Ireland.

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It's raining, but that's no surprise. 40 shades of green.

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It's what makes Ireland what it is, and keeps it rich and lush.

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Now, I'm going to see a man called Ken Buggy.

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'Ken is a living legend.

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'People's eyes light up at the very mention of his name.

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'He runs rather an eccentric bed and breakfast. It's a delight.'

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BELL RINGS

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-'But I wish I hadn't forgotten his name.'

-Hello.

-Oh, hello.

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-Are you Frank?

-Pardon? No - are you Ted?

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RICK LAUGHS

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'The reason I've come to see Ken is for his famous soda bread,

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'but more so for the idiosyncratic way he makes it.

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'It's such fun.

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'It's quick and doesn't require a lot of time or precise measurements.'

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And I'm going to put three...

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Then we pick up our little strainer,

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our teaspoon,

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and I'm going to put into this some bicarbonate of soda.

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The reason I'm using the strainer is this bicarbonate of soda

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-tends to have little lumps in it.

-Right.

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We put that aside, and the teaspoon aside,

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and we shake it like this.

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-Now, you will notice there are lumps here.

-Yeah.

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These are the lumpy bits of the bicarbonate of soda, and I'll

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leave those aside there, because I'll tell you why in a minute.

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And we just give this a little stir.

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-And suddenly the phone rings.

-Yeah?

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And I stop and go and answer the telephone and I come back

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and the first thing I think of is, "Oh, dear -

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"did I put the bicarbonate of soda in?"

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And I look and I see. "Ooh, yes - I must have."

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This is a recipe for me.

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I'm as forgetful as that, so there's no question - this is my recipe.

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So that's why I leave that there.

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And then we get the buttermilk.

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-Right.

-Get the buttermilk

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from the maidens at the crossroads.

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Of course, nowadays you don't have any of those in England any more.

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You have no crossroads.

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-It's all motorway now, isn't it?

-RICK LAUGHS

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So mix it all up...

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What's with the cross there, though?

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-This is to ensure even baking.

-Right.

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So that if you left it out, it would even bake itself.

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-No, no, no. That's...

-RICK LAUGHS

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No, it's to ensure that each little bit cooks the same amount.

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-Evenly, yes.

-It looks nice, too.

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And some people put a little twiddly thing in the middle like that.

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-Right, so into the oven we pop it.

-Right.

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And then we all go and have a pint of Guinness.

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He was just like... a one-off, really.

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I mean, he's one of those people you meet rarely in your life,

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you know, such a nice man, with such a playful sense of humour,

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and actually, at the end of all this sort of fun,

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he produced a lovely soda bread.

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Well, it looks very nice.

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CRUNCHING

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"Mmm! Yummy," he says.

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What, you don't believe I like it?

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No, it is yummy.

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-It is extremely yummy! It's lovely and crunchy.

-Is it?

-It really is.

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-It is good flour.

-I must have done something wrong.

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-That's 4.15.

-Thank you.

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Are you OK?

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Now...

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-Thank you very much.

-That's 2.50.

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I've been to this farmers' market in Middleton

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quite a few times before and it seems to me to be a model farmers' market.

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It's small but perfectly formed

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and such a high proportion of the stuff being sold here is local.

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What I've noticed over the last few years with markets is that

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maybe you have three types of markets. You have browsing markets,

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you have shopping markets and you have lifestyle markets.

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Middleton works because it's a mixture of lifestyle and shopping.

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Also because Middleton is such a smashing town,

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the people are terribly loyal.

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Frank Hederman's stall is a jewel, with every sort of smoked fish you could think of.

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When I visited him a couple of years ago, he showed me how to deal

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with a whole smoked silver eel, which was utterly delicious.

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Slice it very thinly across the surface of the fish...

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'He peeled it like a banana

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'and then took the thinnest of slices off the fillet. It makes a brilliant first course.'

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Now, look at that smoked eel.

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Lovely and moist with fat, which all good smoked eel should have.

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Bought it from Frank Hederman in Middleton market.

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Frank is born to smoke things, but nothing more so than eel.

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Do you know what?

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I think talking to Frank,

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if you can't talk eel, you can't talk about anything else with him.

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Because after you start really getting into the eel,

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you can talk about love and life

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and philosophy and the universe and everything.

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But if you can't talk eel, don't bother.

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I've never said this before, but filleting things on camera is

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very scary, because if anything can go wrong, it certainly will.

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But I think Frank would be quite proud of me this time

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cos it is coming off very cleanly.

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This is for a really good recipe. Seriously.

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I like eel either just with horseradish or in a salad with potato

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and crispy bacon.

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It's lovely. Just cut them about that sort of long

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to go in the salad.

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This is Ramsay's bacon from Ayrshire.

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You can see very easily that there is absolutely no moisture coming

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out of that bacon at all.

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The potatoes are new.

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It's best to use a waxy variety so they hold their shape

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when you cut them up.

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And now for the dressing.

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First of all, a handful of flat leaf parsley,

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which I reckon should end up as about a tablespoon of parsley.

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That goes in there.

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The horseradish really does go well with smoked fish.

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We know it goes well with smoked mackerel, but smoked eel as well.

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Some vinegar, about a teaspoon or so.

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And some cream, about a tablespoon, a bit more perhaps. Some caster sugar.

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A good big pinch. Some salt. Similar. A good big pinch.

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Just whisk that up and that's it.

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Put the potatoes into a bowl and turn them over with a dressing.

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This is the sort of fancy food I do like to find

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in Ireland. Very Irish, too, with the eel and the potatoes.

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I spoon that onto the salad leaves, lamb's lettuce, watercress,

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sorrel and rocket and then four or five fillets of eel, and finally

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the crispy bacon, which just gives a great textural finish to the dish.

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A sprinkle of chives and, of course, a glass of stout.

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See, that eel looked delicious until he put horseradish with it.

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I'm a big fan of eel myself. It's not everybody's cup of tea.

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-Eel, do you like eel?

-You are kidding me.

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I went to China once

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and I can remember being offered dancing eel or something.

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-No, drunken eel.

-Dancing eel?

-Drunken shrimp or drunken eel.

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It was disgusting. It was all moving around in the dish. It was like alive.

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-You've got steak and onion rings here.

-That's much more my thing.

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-How do you like your steak?

-Medium to well.

-Medium to well.

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-I don't like it too bloody.

-I'd better get it on first of all.

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We'll get this on. Nice hot pan.

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-Tom is panicking.

-Hit it.

-Anyway, we've got a bit of oil in here.

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I'm going to pan-fry this one for the boys there

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-and the girl over there.

-Is that olive oil?

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This is a little bit of olive oil.

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Beef is going to go in. I'm going to colour that nicely.

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I'm going to do these onion rings to go with this with a little

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onion butter. This is...

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I go on my travels, you see, not as glamorous as you, New Zealand

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and all that sort of stuff. Glasgow. That's where I went last week.

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Fantastic Glasgow. And I met this guy here.

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He brought me something last year.

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This is Jack Trotter, aged 11, from Cumbria. This is your onion.

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Jack Trotter, who is a big gardening fan.

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-And I'm going to use your onion, mate.

-It's a large onion, darling.

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I was going to call it a shallot butter, but we'll do deep-fried

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onion rings with this one, so we'll do the onion rings quite big.

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We'll do that with a nice little onion

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and red wine butter to go with it.

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-Look at the size of that.

-It's huge.

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12 years old and he grew that onion. Fantastic.

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Now, on with you, Elaine, while I'm cooking my bit of steak there.

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-Medium to well.

-Yes, please.

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-1964 was the first time you started on the...

-That's mean.

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-..on the theatre.

-I was a child. I was just a child.

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-Unbelievable career from 1964. You were 16 then?

-Yes, probably.

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-Younger.

-Can you remember what it was like appearing on the stage

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-for the first time?

-Yes, it was wonderful, it was so magical.

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I remember walking into the theatre.

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We used to actually rehearse in the theatre in this show called

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Roar Of The Greasepaint: Smell Of The Crowd,

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and we actually rehearsed on the stage and I can remember

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the atmosphere in the theatre and there was nobody in there.

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It was quiet and no audience, and rehearsing, it was just magical.

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And then when the audience come in, you can't believe it

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because the whole place changes completely and turns into...

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-Do you still get that buzz even after...?

-Yes.

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-Do you still get the same thing?

-Absolutely.

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If you are in this crazy business, I think

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it gets into your bones, as it were.

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It is a bit like a drug. You can't live without it.

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I can't imagine not doing it.

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And, of course, the West End, you did Hair, Jesus Christ Superstar.

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But it was really... Would you say Evita was the one that really...?

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That was the one that changed everything for me, yes. It was.

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It turned my life upside down and gave me a career in musical theatre.

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Did you know at the time it was going to be such a massive thing?

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Did you get that feeling?

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I can remember when I first heard the album that Julie Covington played

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the role of Evita on.

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And I remember then thinking, "Wow, this is something very special

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"and very different."

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Because we hadn't had musical theatre in that way before,

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which was more like opera, really. It was all sung through.

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There were no dialogue scenes.

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I can remember thinking it was beautifully written

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and wonderful music and great lyrics and thinking it was special.

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And then I, amazingly, won that part

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and I can remember the first day of rehearsal

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and Hal Prince directing the very first scene

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when we were all meant to be in the cinema, and then it turned,

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it morphed into the funeral cortege of Eva, and I can remember then

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-when we were rehearsing it thinking...

-"This is something."

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"This is different."

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You were one of the first people to do a lot of the hit,

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particularly the lead role of the hit musicals.

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Which then, I suppose, you made musicals known to the masses.

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Since then people knew the musical. What I want to say is

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you took songs from that and really it was the songs that

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-became as big as the musical, if not bigger.

-Well, yes.

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Actually what happened for me, I think I was one of the first people

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to be able to come out of musical theatre and have a record career.

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Was it Memories from Cats and that kind of stuff?

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Yes, and I did my first album when I was in Evita

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and that was lots of songs from the shows, called Stages,

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and that was an unusual situation because up until that point

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really, you didn't really have hits coming out of musical theatre.

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Pop hits, you know, getting into the top ten.

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But of course Don't Cry For Me Argentina was a big hit

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and Memory was a big hit and suddenly hits were happening.

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I Know Him So Well from Chess. They were all coming out of musical

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theatre and having chart success, which was unheard of.

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-Great timing for you as well.

-Yes.

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I was in the right place at the right time.

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Do you think we are going to see that again?

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-The music industry has changed so much.

-I don't know.

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-It's not looking that way at the moment.

-It's not looking good, is it?

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Not in that way, but now what is happening is all retrospective.

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It's bands like Queen and so on and so forth using their music

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and making musicals of them. It's turned the tables really.

0:23:390:23:43

It's the other way round now.

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-It's been great for you because your new album is out now.

-Yes.

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You've got a mixture of... You've called it after your friends...

0:23:480:23:52

It's called Elaine Paige And Friends because a lot of them

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are my real friends and it's an album of duets and I wanted

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to choose music that was poles apart from musical theatre,

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so I've looked at songs from the '70s pretty much and those were

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the songs that I was interested in

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when I was a young girl growing up and listening to.

0:24:110:24:14

-So I rang up Billy Ocean.

-You rang up Billy Ocean. Go on.

-He is a friend.

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I worked with him years ago in Denmark Street.

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We were kids together. Doing doo-wops on other people's albums and so on.

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That's where I met him. Our voices blended quite well together

0:24:280:24:30

I thought then.

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I thought, "I wonder if it would still be the same now."

0:24:320:24:35

I rang him up and said, would he like to do it, and told him

0:24:350:24:37

what I was doing. He said yes. Barry Manilow said yes.

0:24:370:24:40

John Barrowman said yes. And so it kind of... Then I was on a roll.

0:24:400:24:44

I thought, "I've got three, I've only got another nine to go!"

0:24:440:24:47

-And you got Sinead O'Connor.

-Sinead O'Connor's on it. Paul Anka.

0:24:470:24:51

-Oh, my goodness.

-Johnny Mathis.

-Johnny Mathis.

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My mother will be watching this and I remember -

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-OUT OF TUNE:

-# Flickers in the sky. #

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That's why I went into cooking you see.

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# All across the land dawns a brand-new morn

0:25:010:25:04

# This comes to pass when a child is born. #

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-We used to listen to that all over Christmas.

-Did you really?

-Yes.

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If I'd known you before, you could have been on it.

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-Possibly not, Elaine.

-Probably not.

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But as well as that, you've got your concert,

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you are appearing in concert.

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Yes, I'm going out on tour after Christmas in February.

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If you want all the details, just go to my website.

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You can check where I am on what day.

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February through March next year. So, no, it's all looking good.

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It was much fun to make because I was in New York for three months doing

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the album and then I flew to LA to work with Johnny Mathis

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and Paul Anka and Neil Sedaka. He's on it.

0:25:390:25:41

And LeAnn Rimes of course.

0:25:410:25:44

I thought I'd better have a bit of the young country voices on there.

0:25:440:25:48

-Sounds good to me.

-This is looking good too.

-Happy with that?

-Yeah.

0:25:480:25:51

-As well, you've got your radio show.

-Yes, yes.

0:25:510:25:54

Which is going really well, I have to say.

0:25:540:25:56

Yes, six years in I'm still doing a radio show which I love.

0:25:560:25:59

It means I'm connected to the publique as it were.

0:25:590:26:03

I'm loving that. It's great fun.

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I shall recap what we've done because I've done it all. It's all been done already.

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I don't know how you can cook and talk at the same time. Or was it me doing all the talking?

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I think it was you doing all the talking.

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I've got a steak here. It's still alive that steak.

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That's not for you. We've got our shallot butter.

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Well, big onion butter.

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We've got onion, balsamic vinegar and red wine reduced down

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and that sits on the steak

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and you have that with your onion rings.

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The guys over there can dive into that one.

0:26:250:26:27

-Yes. Thank you.

-What I'm going to do is slice our steak.

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-Spread the butter all over.

-It looks pretty good.

0:26:310:26:34

-That one is all right for you, I think.

-Oh, yes, perfect.

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Just. There you go. We'll put that bit on there.

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Then you've got this butter.

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This is the onion reduced down with red wine,

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balsamic vinegar and parsley.

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-You basically just allow that to sit in on it.

-And sort of...

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-Hopefully that does justice...

-..sink in.

0:26:490:26:51

..to little Mr Trotter's onions.

0:26:510:26:54

Dive into that. Best of luck... I've cut you a bit there.

0:26:540:26:58

-Lovely.

-Best of luck with the new album.

-Thank you very much.

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And I won't give up my day job, really.

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-This is the kind of food I would need before I go on stage.

-Is it?

-Yes.

0:27:030:27:07

Giving me a lot of energy.

0:27:070:27:09

You've got the thumbs up over here.

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I've got the thumbs up over there.

0:27:100:27:12

-Happy with that?

-It's delicious.

0:27:120:27:14

I knew I should have stuck to cooking. There you go.

0:27:140:27:17

Happy with that? Little kid's onion.

0:27:170:27:19

Jack Trotter's onion, see, it's a winner.

0:27:190:27:21

Next year I want another one.

0:27:210:27:22

And thanks again for that onion, Jack.

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If you'd like to try cooking that steak and onion rings

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or have a go at any of the recipes you seen on today's show

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they're just a click away at bbc.co.uk/recipes.

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We're not live today so, instead, we're looking back at some of

0:27:360:27:39

the great cooking from the Saturday Kitchen recipe book.

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Next up, it's Vivek Singh and he's armed with a grouse,

0:27:420:27:45

a wok, and a little North Indian inspiration.

0:27:450:27:48

Great to have you on the show. What are we cooking? What are we making?

0:27:480:27:51

-Well...

-Because you've got everything,

0:27:510:27:53

including the kitchen sink, in this place.

0:27:530:27:56

-We're doing a karahi-style stir-fry of grouse.

-Right.

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Should be relatively straightforward. You see the ingredients here.

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We are also serving a hot and sweet pumpkin chutney with it.

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For the chutney we've got some pumpkin here.

0:28:050:28:07

A couple of dried red chillies, some black onion seeds,

0:28:070:28:10

fenugreek seeds, turmeric and red chilli powder.

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-Loads of sugar.

-Lots of sugar.

-Yeah.

0:28:120:28:14

It is a chutney. It's sweet.

0:28:140:28:17

And just to finish it off, there is a touch of dried mango powder.

0:28:170:28:20

-But unlike our sort of chutney there's no vinegar in there.

-No.

0:28:200:28:24

There isn't any vinegar in it.

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OK. Right. First off, what are we cooking?

0:28:270:28:30

This lot first. What's first?

0:28:300:28:33

I'll start off with the grouse.

0:28:330:28:35

I'm just going to use the breast for this.

0:28:350:28:40

Grouse bang in season now, the Glorious 12th. 12th of August.

0:28:400:28:44

-Best grouse all the way to December really.

-Indeed.

0:28:440:28:46

We love our game at The Cinnamon Club.

0:28:460:28:50

It is one of the things that we are really well-known for now.

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Also you don't see enough game being cooked.

0:28:550:28:58

Not just in Indian restaurants, but any restaurant really.

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We don't see enough of that going on.

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It's like a North-South divide

0:29:030:29:04

when it comes to game in Indian cooking.

0:29:040:29:06

It's the North...

0:29:060:29:08

In Northern India there has been a tradition in the past

0:29:080:29:11

of cooking with game. Not so much in the South.

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But in the North, yes, there has been.

0:29:140:29:16

And it's a tradition that's quickly being lost.

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Not quickly, over the last 30 or 40 years,

0:29:190:29:21

there has been absolutely no game whatsoever.

0:29:210:29:23

So this is my effort to keep in touch with game

0:29:230:29:27

and have some recipes going.

0:29:270:29:29

-Right, OK.

-Otherwise you forget that side of...

0:29:290:29:33

that aspect of Indian cooking.

0:29:330:29:34

You've got on the menu at the Cinnamon Club now, a game menu.

0:29:340:29:37

Indeed, yes, I've got a five-course tasting menu with game

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-and it's going down really well.

-Yes.

0:29:410:29:43

Over the years, we've got a bit of a reputation for cooking with game

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and people sort of, seem to sort of come back for that, which is great.

0:29:460:29:50

-So, anyway, you're just choosing the breast meat, is that right?

-Yes.

0:29:500:29:53

Right now, I'm just sort of using the breast meat for this.

0:29:530:29:56

It's a quick stir-fry.

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But I hate throwing the mince from the leg away,

0:29:580:30:00

so what I do in the restaurant is I sort of collect the mince

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-and then I cook like a sort of keema, like a game mince.

-Yes.

0:30:030:30:07

And then I use it to fill breads with. It's a wonderful sort of...

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I love the earthy, musky flavours of game.

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-I like grouse, but it's not that popular...?

-No.

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It's a fabulous piece of meat

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and it's probably the best of all of the game for me, personally.

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-But it's not everyone's cup of tea.

-No.

0:30:250:30:27

Anyway, so we've got our grouse here, so what's next?

0:30:270:30:30

You've portioned that up. You need to get this on, don't you? This...

0:30:300:30:33

-Yes. Have you got the pumpkin ready?

-Yes.

0:30:330:30:36

You need to pay attention on this one, because this is fantastic.

0:30:360:30:39

Yes, you've got to get it right. What I'm going to do is, I'm going to...

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use a little bit of the fenugreek seeds and the...

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..and the black onion seeds.

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This pumpkin, you could use it with any dish, really,

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couldn't you, this chutney?

0:30:530:30:55

You serve it with any dish, this chutney?

0:30:550:30:57

You could use it as a filling for sandwiches,

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you could just have it with paratha, use it as a vegetarian alternative.

0:30:590:31:04

-Yeah.

-It's wonderful as a filling for sandwiches, to perk up naans.

0:31:040:31:08

So, where do you want our pumpkin, then? In here?

0:31:080:31:10

Yes, let's just put the pumpkin in there.

0:31:100:31:12

So, in there we've got a bit of chilli... What have we got in there?

0:31:120:31:16

-I missed that.

-Black onion seeds and fenugreek seeds. Just a touch.

0:31:160:31:20

-Fenugreek has a sort of slightly bitter...

-Yes.

0:31:200:31:23

-..flavour, but it's incredibly...

-OK, that's going to go in there.

0:31:230:31:28

Ooh.

0:31:280:31:29

Next, onions. Use a lot in Indian cooking. Lots of onions.

0:31:290:31:33

Lots of onions. I've got that... I'm just going to start...

0:31:330:31:38

I noticed you added your spices slightly later.

0:31:380:31:41

-I started off with... whole spices.

-OK.

0:31:410:31:46

And the trick with spices is,

0:31:460:31:48

if you're using them whole then you add them at the beginning of...

0:31:480:31:52

So, it goes straight into the oil.

0:31:520:31:54

But you're going to toast some of the spices off in separate pan

0:31:540:31:57

-and use that almost like a seasoning.

-Indeed.

0:31:570:32:00

And I'm using coriander and cumin in ground form

0:32:000:32:03

as well as red chilli powder.

0:32:030:32:05

But I'm also going to use some of the spice mix

0:32:050:32:09

-and I'm going to use a sort of crushed form.

-We dry fry these?

0:32:090:32:13

It's just dry roasted, so you can see the smell of... It starts to pop.

0:32:130:32:17

And I like it coarse. I don't like it too...

0:32:200:32:23

-So, you just literally lightly crush those?

-Yes.

0:32:230:32:25

-It's just toasted lightly.

-The smell is just... Ooh!

0:32:250:32:29

Have a smell of that.

0:32:290:32:31

Uhh!

0:32:310:32:32

-There you go.

-Wow!

-It smells absolutely...

0:32:320:32:36

It's that little bit of cinnamon and everything else in there.

0:32:360:32:39

-I'll bring it over.

-That's enough now.

-Do you want it back?

-Yes, I do!

0:32:390:32:43

There you go.

0:32:430:32:45

James, you're going to come back and do the ginger and garlic.

0:32:450:32:48

So, you are going to use that as a little seasoning?

0:32:480:32:50

Yes, I'll just use it as a finishing spice.

0:32:500:32:53

I love the fact that it's not totally ground, so you get...

0:32:530:32:56

..you get not just the flavours and the taste of it,

0:32:590:33:02

-but also the texture.

-OK.

0:33:020:33:04

Right, tomato - you just chop there. No...

0:33:040:33:07

No skin removed, just as it is?

0:33:070:33:10

-The whole lot?

-No need to take the skin off.

0:33:100:33:12

We've got something here, what is this?

0:33:120:33:14

Where does that go? Or have you forgotten?

0:33:140:33:16

That's going to go into the onions. No, I haven't!

0:33:160:33:19

That's going to go into the onions.

0:33:190:33:21

-Bit of red chilli powder and turmeric into the pumpkin pickle.

-Yes.

0:33:210:33:25

-I've added the salt.

-Sugar?

-A fair bit of...

0:33:250:33:28

-sugar into it.

-Yes.

0:33:280:33:29

And this is where it starts to go in a chutney.

0:33:320:33:35

So, what's the difference between a chutney and a pickle for you, then?

0:33:350:33:39

Well, a pickle is something they do and keep for a long time,

0:33:390:33:43

and you do it with ingredients that you don't find throughout the year.

0:33:430:33:46

-Right.

-So, you could either sort of cure things in oil

0:33:460:33:51

or you could even use acid for it.

0:33:510:33:54

So, a chutney you could eat straight away.

0:33:540:33:56

-A pickle, you leave.

-Yes. And chutney, you have the choice...

0:33:560:33:59

They can be fresh, like a salsa, like coriander and mint.

0:33:590:34:05

But also, most chutneys,

0:34:050:34:07

if you are using things like tomatoes and stuff,

0:34:070:34:11

-you use a lot of sugar and...

-OK.

0:34:110:34:14

I've got the tomatoes going in there.

0:34:140:34:17

-So, the game goes in literally about two minutes?

-OK.

0:34:170:34:21

There is a sink in the back, if you want to wash your hands.

0:34:210:34:23

Your mother will be watching. Little bit of...

0:34:230:34:27

I've chopped some ginger, a little bit of garlic and some chilli.

0:34:270:34:29

You want some ginger in there?

0:34:290:34:31

I need a bit of coriander in there.

0:34:310:34:33

-Coriander?

-Yes. A tiny bit of coriander.

-It's there.

0:34:330:34:37

So, basically, everything you've got in the fridge, really.

0:34:410:34:44

And in your cupboard.

0:34:440:34:45

-Now, I'm always fascinated about Indian cooking.

-Yes.

0:34:450:34:48

Particularly the spices that you have.

0:34:480:34:50

-What's the little pot that you carry around with you?

-The karahi.

-Karahi.

0:34:500:34:54

Which is all those different spices... The spice pots.

0:34:540:34:57

-Oh, you mean the spice rack.

-Yes, what's that called?

0:34:570:35:00

It's a little round tin.

0:35:000:35:01

It's called a masala dabba. You keep at least...

0:35:010:35:04

you know, your basic sort of six or seven regulation spices

0:35:040:35:07

that you use very frequently.

0:35:070:35:08

But what would be the six that you would pick, really,

0:35:080:35:11

if you wanted to get serious into Indian cooking?

0:35:110:35:14

If you wanted to get really serious into...

0:35:140:35:17

The range is incredible, but if you started off with cumin,

0:35:170:35:20

coriander, chilli, a bit of black peppercorn, fennel,

0:35:200:35:23

cardamom and cinnamon, I think you would...

0:35:230:35:26

-You've done well.

-Is stir-fry a common thing in Indian cookery?

0:35:260:35:31

-He's not listening.

-He's not listening.

-I beg your pardon.

0:35:330:35:37

Stir-fry, it's not that common in Indian cooking, stir-fries?

0:35:370:35:41

-It's something we come across a lot in north India.

-OK.

0:35:410:35:44

And you essentially use game or you'd use lean meat,

0:35:440:35:46

like chicken breast and things like that.

0:35:460:35:48

You are using things like thighs,

0:35:480:35:50

-you obviously braise them and that becomes a curry.

-Right.

0:35:500:35:53

OK, this is interesting. This stuff.

0:35:530:35:55

You can't really find that in a lot of shops.

0:35:550:35:58

What's this going in here?

0:35:580:35:59

-I'm using dried mango powder.

-Yes.

0:35:590:36:03

It's quite easily available in Asian stores, but you also...

0:36:030:36:07

But you could use mango pickle.

0:36:070:36:09

-I've been told you can buy it in the supermarkets.

-Yeah.

0:36:090:36:12

Little do I know.

0:36:120:36:15

-Great. So...

-Right, we're nearly there.

-The grouse is ready.

0:36:150:36:19

What about these spices here? You just put them in there last-minute?

0:36:200:36:24

-I beg your pardon.

-These ones in here.

0:36:240:36:26

These ones are just going to go into the...

0:36:260:36:28

These are already roasted and I'm using this for texture,

0:36:280:36:31

so they just go last-minute.

0:36:310:36:32

-And we start off with a...

-Look at that pumpkin.

0:36:330:36:36

-Is it how mother made?

-Yes, that's exactly how mother made.

0:36:380:36:42

Um... I'd probably cook it a bit longer and let it disintegrate.

0:36:420:36:46

While you were watching your mother make plum crumble,

0:36:460:36:49

this is what his mother was making.

0:36:490:36:51

Yes.

0:36:520:36:54

Mine had pots of beef dripping.

0:36:550:36:56

There you go.

0:36:580:36:59

Right, and it's lovely... It's just so quick, that, really.

0:36:590:37:02

That's the key to that. Keep it nice and pink.

0:37:020:37:04

It's really, really lean, so you've got to take care not to overcook it.

0:37:040:37:08

You can't sort of cook it too much in advance.

0:37:080:37:10

You actually don't need to, because you'd be...

0:37:100:37:13

Remind us what that is again.

0:37:130:37:15

It's a karahi-style stir-fry of grouse

0:37:150:37:18

with a hot and sweet pumpkin chutney.

0:37:180:37:21

It's as simple as that.

0:37:210:37:23

I would say it's as simple as that.

0:37:290:37:30

It's just when you get the recipe

0:37:300:37:33

and you're printing it off your computer, make sure

0:37:330:37:35

you've got lots of paper in there - it's four pages long.

0:37:350:37:38

But have a seat over here.

0:37:380:37:39

Let's see if it's worth all the effort. Dive into that.

0:37:390:37:42

Look at that. I think we should all dive in, look at that.

0:37:420:37:44

Dive into that, guys. Taste the pumpkin, because that is just...

0:37:440:37:48

-It's incredible. It's incredible.

-It is. It's a beautiful recipe.

0:37:480:37:53

I never thought I'd use it on a restaurant menu, but I have.

0:37:530:37:57

There you go. Other things you could do,

0:37:570:37:58

I suppose venison would be really nice in that.

0:37:580:38:00

You could use any kind of game. Partridge is in season.

0:38:000:38:03

In a couple of weeks' time, you'll start getting pheasants in.

0:38:030:38:06

Pheasants are great for this.

0:38:060:38:07

You know, it's quite lean, it cooks really quickly,

0:38:070:38:10

-so breast is a great way to use...

-It smells delicious.

0:38:100:38:12

So, now you know the difference between a chutney and a pickle.

0:38:170:38:20

Don't tell me you don't learn anything on this show.

0:38:200:38:23

Now it's time for a classic slice of Keith Floyd

0:38:230:38:25

as he travels to Northumbria.

0:38:250:38:27

All sensible television programmes start

0:38:280:38:30

with a man leaning over the gate, telling you where he is.

0:38:300:38:33

We are not a sensible television programme,

0:38:330:38:35

but we are prepared to give you some clues.

0:38:350:38:39

Cues on clues. Cues on clues.

0:38:390:38:41

First, this land was invaded by these fellows.

0:38:410:38:44

The punks.

0:38:440:38:46

They were swiftly followed by all those chaps who invented tea.

0:38:460:38:49

Asterix the Gaul and his men.

0:38:490:38:52

The Vikings. Then... Oops! Good job he doesn't play for England.

0:38:520:38:56

Then swiftly preceded...succeeded...

0:38:560:38:59

The ears have dropped off but, look, there's no point in mucking about.

0:38:590:39:03

Who do you think wore these?

0:39:030:39:05

Not the Visigoths, they were called the Border Reivers.

0:39:050:39:08

Men of bloodcurdling dances, yells, yelps and healthy appetites.

0:39:080:39:12

So, you know where we are, don't you? North Korea.

0:39:120:39:15

# The fells are alive

0:39:160:39:20

# With the sound of curlews. #

0:39:200:39:24

This is absurd, isn't it?

0:39:240:39:26

I mean, just so you can get what the director called a sense of place,

0:39:260:39:30

I have to stand here on this blasted heath on these Northumberland fells

0:39:300:39:34

so you can see the beautiful view,

0:39:340:39:36

when all I've got to do is, quite simply, love, he says,

0:39:360:39:39

cook up a little something of Roman influence,

0:39:390:39:41

you know, to impress the visiting professor of Roman archaeology,

0:39:410:39:45

Hadrian's Wall, gastronomy and Northumberland history.

0:39:450:39:47

Very simple, isn't it?

0:39:470:39:49

And that lot, you, are all staying there on your little tripods,

0:39:490:39:52

under umbrellas.

0:39:520:39:53

Just dismantle the whole lot. Dismantle the whole lot.

0:39:530:39:56

Come here and, you know, pay some attention to me.

0:39:560:39:58

Thank you very much indeed.

0:39:580:40:00

Now, then, the real purpose of this little culinary exercise is to,

0:40:000:40:05

as I say, interpret what the Romans might have eaten, what, 2,000...

0:40:050:40:08

How many thousand years ago? ..several thousand years ago

0:40:080:40:11

when they were building this wall around the place.

0:40:110:40:14

I reckon they'd have eaten quite a lot of pig.

0:40:140:40:16

So, I've got a piece of pig here

0:40:160:40:17

which I'm going to cut up into little cubes.

0:40:170:40:20

Now, I want you to really believe and understand...

0:40:200:40:23

I don't complain as a rule, but it IS very cold, it IS raining,

0:40:230:40:26

I HAVE got a temperature.

0:40:260:40:28

Richard might have to wipe his lens off

0:40:280:40:30

and empty his mind from time to time, because the rain is coming down.

0:40:300:40:33

So, I've got pieces of pork, I've got bits of carrot.

0:40:330:40:37

I reckon the Romans had...

0:40:370:40:39

Sorry about all this, but this is real life stuff.

0:40:390:40:43

Richard, this is my programme.

0:40:430:40:45

I mean, they all know what a carrot looks like. OK.

0:40:450:40:47

I am chopping carrots and onions... You don't need to look at the onion.

0:40:470:40:50

They know what an onion is.

0:40:500:40:51

..in this appalling, trying to make this sort of Roman-type meal.

0:40:510:40:55

So, I won't do all those together.

0:40:550:40:57

I've got to chop up some garlic, because it was the Romans, after all,

0:40:570:41:01

who brought garlic to this place. I've got all those things together.

0:41:010:41:06

I need some parsley, because they were great green herb users,

0:41:060:41:10

the Romans.

0:41:100:41:12

And also, of course, what all history

0:41:120:41:14

and all wars have always been about have been spices and things.

0:41:140:41:17

Even in Grecian-Roman times, they were squabbling over it.

0:41:170:41:20

Well, they are going to squabble over these.

0:41:200:41:22

Cumin seeds, ginger, marjoram,

0:41:220:41:24

thyme, dill and stuff like that is a typical selection of Roman herbs.

0:41:240:41:27

I mean, they had more herbs than Sainsbury's, I can tell you.

0:41:270:41:30

Anyway, that goes into my pot.

0:41:300:41:32

You've got to remember, like me, these guys were stuck out here,

0:41:320:41:36

you know, nothing on the clock but the maker's name,

0:41:360:41:38

and if they didn't pickle, preserve or spice their meat, it was...

0:41:380:41:42

Well, like this could be, it would be pretty terrible.

0:41:420:41:44

Anyway, they also had wine, so they whacked a load of wine

0:41:440:41:47

into their pot with these herbs, OK, and spices.

0:41:470:41:51

That's what they did and, being Roman soldiers,

0:41:510:41:54

before those little signs that are now along the Hadrian's Wall

0:41:540:41:56

and the Appian Way and all that saying, "Please keep Britain tidy",

0:41:560:41:59

they probably tossed the bottles into the hedge.

0:41:590:42:01

In we put our meat, carrots, onions and stuff like that.

0:42:010:42:07

And we let that marinate now for about 24 hours.

0:42:070:42:11

For about as long as it will take you

0:42:110:42:14

to do the first 700 kilometres on the decathlon.

0:42:140:42:17

But let me tell you about something else.

0:42:170:42:19

In fact, I won't tell you about this.

0:42:190:42:21

This was a centurion's Worcester sauce.

0:42:210:42:24

This was the centurion's soy sauce.

0:42:240:42:27

Walk along the wall and I'll tell you what it is and why I've got it.

0:42:270:42:30

Emperor Hadrian was a Spanish gentleman who got the idea

0:42:330:42:37

to build the wall from... the Chinese. Of course.

0:42:370:42:40

It's a desolate spot, but you can easily imagine the legionnaires

0:42:400:42:43

wrapped in their Armani togas under the menacing Northumbrian sky,

0:42:430:42:47

munching on roasted dormice stuffed with minced pork and pine cones.

0:42:470:42:51

Yum-yum. I think.

0:42:510:42:53

But Northumbria, and here we go for complaints from other regions,

0:42:530:42:56

must be the most unspoilt and beautiful part of Britain.

0:42:560:42:59

Polanski had it absolutely right when he filmed Macbeth...

0:42:590:43:02

oops, I mean the Scottish play here.

0:43:020:43:05

And this is the home of St Cuthbert and a fine glass of mead.

0:43:050:43:09

Here endeth the first travelogue.

0:43:090:43:11

That took me seconds to research. Fascinating, interesting, isn't it?

0:43:170:43:20

But back to the liquamen.

0:43:200:43:22

This is the centurion's Daddies ketchup, tomato sauce,

0:43:220:43:25

call it what you will.

0:43:250:43:26

He wouldn't have eaten anything without it

0:43:260:43:28

because, basically, his food wasn't too good.

0:43:280:43:31

I knew I was coming up here, and I made this about three weeks ago.

0:43:310:43:34

I've had it marinating, I've had it macerating, is the word, ever since.

0:43:340:43:38

It is anchovies, it is sprats, it is marjoram, it's red wine

0:43:380:43:42

and it is salt.

0:43:420:43:44

It's all boiled up, left to ferment for three or four weeks,

0:43:440:43:47

and strain, and there you have it - the centurion sauce.

0:43:470:43:50

We ought to brand it, shouldn't we, really?

0:43:500:43:52

Floyd's Centurion Sauce. Could be a big hit.

0:43:520:43:54

Anyway, you do tend to drop a bit of that into your pork marinade.

0:43:540:44:00

And also, because they didn't have sugar in those days,

0:44:000:44:04

and this was a bit tangy and a bit pongy,

0:44:040:44:06

they used to put in a teaspoonful or two of honey.

0:44:060:44:09

That's why honey people are called apiarists.

0:44:090:44:12

I think, if I've got my words right. It is a Latin word too, isn't it?

0:44:120:44:16

Anyway, there it all is. Richard, close-up on that.

0:44:160:44:18

You can feel it, you can smell it, there's the marinade,

0:44:180:44:21

there's the pork, the onions, the herbs, the spices and stuff,

0:44:210:44:23

it's been in there for about 24 hours.

0:44:230:44:26

Now it has to go... Wander round here, however you do it.

0:44:260:44:29

It has to go into my typical... upon Wood Mark 4,

0:44:290:44:32

or at home, Gas Mark 6, but Wood Mark 4,

0:44:320:44:35

it goes into there...

0:44:350:44:37

..for... Put the lid on.

0:44:400:44:42

Richard, I'm talking to you.

0:44:440:44:46

..for about 45 minutes.

0:44:460:44:48

Richard, you wipe your lens, I'll blow my nose

0:44:480:44:51

and that was a bit too hot.

0:44:510:44:52

I know I said Gas Mark 4, I can barely see through the smoke

0:44:520:44:55

and the heat here, but I have this guy coming and I can't do it again,

0:44:550:44:58

so we'll live with it, OK?

0:44:580:45:00

Now, listen...

0:45:000:45:01

HE COUGHS Oh, dear, this is ridiculous.

0:45:010:45:04

It is ridiculous.

0:45:040:45:05

I made a little joke about the Roman soldiers throwing their bottles away

0:45:050:45:08

but don't be a prat, don't listen to me,

0:45:080:45:10

please don't throw your bottles into the hedges, OK?

0:45:100:45:12

OK, Richard, back on the pot.

0:45:120:45:14

'We're not proud on this programme.

0:45:150:45:16

'If we need an expert on, say, the Romans,

0:45:160:45:18

'then the director, sparing no thought for himself,

0:45:180:45:21

'goes straight to the nearest pub and finds one.

0:45:210:45:23

'Hence Donald McFarlane.'

0:45:230:45:24

Donald, what did the Romans...?

0:45:240:45:26

I feel a bit like John Cleese here. What did the Romans do for us?

0:45:260:45:30

What did they do when they were here?

0:45:300:45:31

OK, I think the first thing is,

0:45:310:45:34

can you imagine the culture shock to the locals. I mean, look around you.

0:45:340:45:38

The locals, the Brigante, the Votadini, the Selgovae,

0:45:380:45:43

would live on the tops of these hills in small tribal...

0:45:430:45:46

-These are people or birds?

-People. In this instance, yes, that's right.

0:45:460:45:50

Their quite primitive lifestyle -

0:45:520:45:55

they would probably roast an oxen and everyone would partake of that.

0:45:550:45:59

What you had when the Romans arrived is a very highly civilised nation,

0:45:590:46:04

even by our standards.

0:46:040:46:05

They introduced a disciplined system of society

0:46:050:46:09

and along with that, which is the reason why we're here,

0:46:090:46:12

is they introduced foods, commodities,

0:46:120:46:15

which the locals didn't have at all,

0:46:150:46:18

like turnip, like cabbage, like lettuce, like herbs.

0:46:180:46:21

Name a herb, the Romans will have brought it here, as spice.

0:46:210:46:24

You are telling me that the British cabbage

0:46:240:46:26

-was invented by some centurions?

-Brought by the Romans, yes.

-That's outrageous.

0:46:260:46:30

I tell you what, if I don't serve this, using, of course,

0:46:300:46:33

the standard issue Imperial Roman utensils,

0:46:330:46:35

it is going to be cooked to a frazzle.

0:46:350:46:37

Listen, we had all the Romans and we had all them,

0:46:370:46:40

but what other influences have stormed onto Northumberland?

0:46:400:46:44

Yes, well, following the Roman withdrawal from Britain,

0:46:440:46:47

the Anglo-Saxons came into the ascendancy,

0:46:470:46:51

again for about another 400 years.

0:46:510:46:53

I mean, as a Roman historian, you are clearly second to none

0:46:530:46:57

-but what do you think of my dish?

-I think it's interesting.

0:46:570:47:00

I think you probably recaptured...

0:47:000:47:04

the flavour... of yesteryear quite well.

0:47:040:47:08

No, it's not bad, actually.

0:47:090:47:11

I think it's got that rough, coarse sauce...

0:47:110:47:14

If you don't mind me saying?

0:47:140:47:17

-My dear fellow, feel free to be edited!

-Yes!

0:47:170:47:20

..which I believe, sitting here for probably three hours,

0:47:220:47:26

trying to work my way through this,

0:47:260:47:28

this rough sauce would be exactly, I'm sure, as they would produce it.

0:47:280:47:31

The liquamen, I feel, is adding nothing.

0:47:310:47:33

I know, but I must tell you what,

0:47:330:47:35

if I saw one of those posters in Rome that said, "Caesar needs you!"

0:47:350:47:38

and this was the kind of food you got when you joined up,

0:47:380:47:41

there's no way I'd go!

0:47:410:47:43

I think we've got to ask the question, why did they withdraw!

0:47:430:47:47

GENTLE MUSIC PLAYS

0:47:470:47:51

FLOYD HUMS ALONG

0:47:580:48:02

This music is incredible. Rock on, Robert.

0:48:050:48:08

But, you know, duty calls and it's back to the commentary.

0:48:080:48:10

So here we are, then, on the good ship Radiant Way,

0:48:100:48:13

putting out to sea from Seahouses,

0:48:130:48:15

a bit like the owl and the pussycat,

0:48:150:48:17

except we ain't got a five pound note.

0:48:170:48:19

Now, all cooking of the real kind

0:48:420:48:46

depends on first-class sup.

0:48:460:48:49

Anybody can go to the supermarket and buy a packet of frozen fish,

0:48:490:48:53

but if you've got real B, dot-dot-dot, with an S on the end,

0:48:530:48:58

you go to where it's really happening, which is, you know,

0:48:580:49:01

waves with teeth like bananas, tails like water, all that business.

0:49:010:49:05

In case, because you know what fishermen are like, don't you?

0:49:080:49:11

The one that got away was that big.

0:49:110:49:14

When you actually go fishing, they haven't caught anything,

0:49:140:49:17

I brought a few mussels from Seahorses

0:49:170:49:20

or Seahouses or whatever it's called,

0:49:200:49:22

just to cook for the crew, when in fact they've been quite the boys.

0:49:220:49:27

They've caught a few things, so I'm going to prepare a dish

0:49:270:49:30

that's going to be called Light Of The Radiant Way.

0:49:300:49:34

Which is, this is our nautical dish of the day,

0:49:340:49:38

panache of fish the Radiant Way. Same as the boat, get it?

0:49:380:49:42

We've got a few whiting, we've got a few haddocks,

0:49:420:49:45

we've got some little lemon soles,

0:49:450:49:47

we've got some cod, we've got some prawns,

0:49:470:49:50

and we've got some codlings.

0:49:500:49:51

So, take your shopping basket, couple of whitings,

0:49:510:49:55

couple of haddocks...

0:49:550:49:57

I'm not joking, my little gastronauts,

0:49:570:49:59

this is unbelievably bad, it really is.

0:49:590:50:02

A bit of...one of these little things here.

0:50:030:50:06

Very slippery, in you go.

0:50:060:50:08

This is your shopping basket. This is shopping on the ninth parallel, OK?

0:50:080:50:14

A little codling.

0:50:140:50:15

And something, especially if it's OK to you...

0:50:150:50:19

I mean, no, actually, seriously, don't laugh,

0:50:210:50:23

every time you have a fish meal,

0:50:230:50:26

what I'm doing now is what they do every day of the week,

0:50:260:50:31

to bring you the fish. So don't joke about it.

0:50:310:50:34

I mean, it's fun, I know, for us but this is how they really work, OK?

0:50:340:50:41

So, out of this lot, I'm going to dedicate a dish to this ship,

0:50:410:50:45

the Radiant Way.

0:50:450:50:47

Richard, come into the kitchen. If we can get back.

0:50:470:50:51

To recap on the whole thing, Richard, and stay with me,

0:51:020:51:04

I know you're not used to being on boats.

0:51:040:51:06

We have my little fresh codling, OK, down here.

0:51:060:51:09

My little whiting, my little haddock,

0:51:090:51:11

my little langoustines, my little prawns,

0:51:110:51:13

the mussels I brought with me.

0:51:130:51:15

A bit of parsley and some cream and not really very much else.

0:51:150:51:20

But while I fried those fillets of the freshest fish you can imagine

0:51:200:51:23

in a little butter on the pan, at the same time I made,

0:51:230:51:27

as every little good little cookette in the world knows,

0:51:270:51:30

a simple white sauce, butter and flour filled up with milk,

0:51:300:51:34

a few onions, bay leaf, bit of parsley and stuff

0:51:340:51:37

to make a basic white sauce, OK?

0:51:370:51:39

So I did that while I was fiddling about

0:51:390:51:42

because this is the magic of...magic.

0:51:420:51:44

At the same time, from Seahouses I got some of these brilliant

0:51:440:51:49

mussels and merely poached them... Sorry about this.

0:51:490:51:52

..merely poached them in about a quarter of a pint of water,

0:51:520:51:54

so that they opened.

0:51:540:51:56

Didn't overcook them because they're succulent and nice. And to make...

0:51:560:51:59

Because I want to get a really good fishy flavour to the ultimate

0:51:590:52:02

sauce of this dish. Now, Richard, this is the tricky bit.

0:52:020:52:04

OK, we have got to get some of this juice from the mussels

0:52:040:52:08

into the white sauce, just to give it a fishy flavour, and stir that in.

0:52:080:52:15

So we've now got a fundamental white sauce

0:52:150:52:18

with a fishy flavour which is quite nice.

0:52:180:52:23

If I may now...

0:52:230:52:24

Do you know, I have to tell you, I am really tired.

0:52:240:52:28

We do take these things, in a way, pretty seriously.

0:52:280:52:31

I know you all love me rolling about on the ship and trying...

0:52:310:52:35

..and just simply cooking things, but there aren't, I can promise you,

0:52:370:52:40

17 home economists behind me doing all this.

0:52:400:52:42

Our little fillets are sort of ready.

0:52:420:52:46

The point about this kind of dish is it shows

0:52:460:52:50

that you do not need to go to night school to get your CSE in cooking.

0:52:500:52:56

Freshness is everything that counts.

0:52:560:52:58

Simplicity, application,

0:52:580:52:59

and if I can do it in, quite frankly, a space that

0:52:590:53:02

my arms will not stretch out into, any of you can do

0:53:020:53:05

all of this kind of thing in the wonderful comfort of your home.

0:53:050:53:08

Right, I've got a few tasks to do.

0:53:080:53:10

For my parsley sauce, very freshly chopped parsley, OK?

0:53:100:53:13

We all know what that is. Excuse all this muddle up of the pots.

0:53:130:53:17

Stay with it, Richard, you're doing very, very well.

0:53:170:53:19

I will buy you a large one when and if ever we get ashore.

0:53:190:53:22

Strain... Stay with it, dear boy, I can see you wobbling.

0:53:230:53:26

Strain the white sauce of all the lumps into the parsley there...

0:53:260:53:32

..which is quite good, discarding then,

0:53:340:53:36

as you can now see, the little flavourings I put in, the carrot,

0:53:360:53:38

the onion, the mushrooms and stuff like that, to make that brilliant.

0:53:380:53:42

Put that into the sink.

0:53:420:53:44

Stir that in. That is really real.

0:53:440:53:47

It's very, very good.

0:53:500:53:52

I want, because this is for the captain

0:53:520:53:55

and for one of my very good friends, Mr Swallow,

0:53:550:53:58

here on the Radiant Way, I want to make this really rich

0:53:580:54:01

and luxurious, so I will add a little cream to the sauce, OK?

0:54:010:54:05

And put that gently on the gas over there, to cook away,

0:54:050:54:09

while... and here we come to the tricky bit...

0:54:090:54:14

Put my couple of little fillets here on this lovely white plate,

0:54:170:54:21

simplicity itself,

0:54:210:54:22

the little langoustines which I've just tailed and headed

0:54:220:54:26

and split down the middle. Like that. OK?

0:54:260:54:30

A few fillets of fish and then some of my little mussels.

0:54:300:54:36

I think, one way or another...

0:54:370:54:39

..this has got to be the sort of fishy version

0:54:410:54:44

of Northumbria on a plate.

0:54:440:54:47

You know, we are working in those absurd conditions -

0:54:470:54:50

nothing on the clock but the maker's name and all that kind of stuff.

0:54:500:54:53

I think now my sauce is warm, the flavour has gone through the thing.

0:54:530:54:59

And, watch closely... Well, don't watch closely,

0:55:010:55:04

but just admire the steadiness of my hand under these absurd conditions.

0:55:040:55:09

Now, I can't put that down, that's very difficult.

0:55:110:55:14

I think, you know, fresh fish, Floyd, Northumberland,

0:55:150:55:20

there it is on a plate. I think it's brilliant.

0:55:200:55:22

How great to see the man in action.

0:55:290:55:31

Now, we're not cooking live in the studio today.

0:55:310:55:33

Instead, we are looking back at some truly fantastic recipes

0:55:330:55:36

from the Saturday Kitchen back catalogue.

0:55:360:55:38

Still to come on today's Best Bites,

0:55:380:55:40

Michael Caines had been practising, but would Sophie Grigson

0:55:400:55:43

get a better time? Find out in

0:55:430:55:44

the Saturday Kitchen Omelette Challenge a little later on.

0:55:440:55:48

Direct from his Parisian restaurant,

0:55:480:55:49

Stephane Reynaud is at the hobs, cooking pork fillet.

0:55:490:55:52

He gives the pork a twist by stir-frying it

0:55:520:55:54

and creating a delicious sweet and sour sauce.

0:55:540:55:57

And Freddie Flintoff faced his Food Heaven or Food Hell.

0:55:570:56:00

Will he get his Food Heaven? Fishfingers

0:56:000:56:02

with my home-made posh haddock fishfingers, chips,

0:56:020:56:05

beans and tartar sauce, or would he get his dreaded Food Hell?

0:56:050:56:08

Chicken, with a harissa chicken and potato stew

0:56:080:56:11

with herb chickpea salad.

0:56:110:56:13

Find out what he gets to eat at the end of today's show.

0:56:130:56:16

When the Eastern European whirlwind Silvena Rowe comes to the studio,

0:56:160:56:19

you know you're in for a tasty treat, and here she is,

0:56:190:56:22

introducing us to the world of pomegranate molasses.

0:56:220:56:25

-Good to have you on the show.

-Kiss. Or kisses, shall I say?

0:56:260:56:29

I called you a man at the top of the show, didn't I?

0:56:290:56:31

Yes, but first things first, have you been faithful to me on the show?

0:56:310:56:34

I've been away, it's been summer, have you been faithful to me?

0:56:340:56:37

-Only on air, I'm interested.

-Yes, I have, yes.

0:56:370:56:39

That's it, I can now cook and sing!

0:56:390:56:41

Go on, just get your duck cooked! What are you doing?

0:56:410:56:44

We are doing today is actually pomegranate glazed duck,

0:56:440:56:47

with a little bit of honey on it.

0:56:470:56:49

I am going to make the most delicious, crunchy,

0:56:490:56:51

very seasonal pilaf that I'm using cracked wheat or bulgur wheat

0:56:510:56:55

with some chickpeas, sour cherries, pomegranate

0:56:550:56:58

and delicious, crunchy pistachio nut.

0:56:580:57:00

-So we are going to do our glaze first of all, aren't we?

-Yes.

0:57:000:57:03

Now, it's going to be a little bit dramatic,

0:57:030:57:05

but then again, what else do you expect from me?

0:57:050:57:07

I wouldn't expect anything less. So duck, good, in season at the moment?

0:57:070:57:10

Yes, absolutely. You know, the hunting season is starting.

0:57:100:57:13

-The what?

-Hunting season. You know how it is.

0:57:130:57:16

Basically, a little bowl here. Pomegranate molasses.

0:57:160:57:19

This is marvellous stuff. I live on this stuff.

0:57:190:57:22

I mean, this is just so gorgeous, this is a reduced pomegranate juice.

0:57:220:57:25

Yes, it has sugar, but basically, if you do it at home,

0:57:250:57:27

you don't have to put the sugar. So, a little bit of honey in there.

0:57:270:57:31

Now, this pomegranate used a lot in Middle Eastern food?

0:57:310:57:33

Yes, Middle Eastern and Central Asian food as well.

0:57:330:57:35

-It's quite strong, isn't it?

-Very strong, but you can actually drink it

0:57:350:57:38

as well, like a cordial, for example.

0:57:380:57:40

So it's basically a reduction of the pomegranate?

0:57:400:57:42

Yes, and you can get extractions as well, various extractions.

0:57:420:57:45

-It's getting very common now.

-So what spices have you put in there?

0:57:450:57:48

-This is caraway.

-This is what we do at Baltic.

0:57:480:57:51

This is a dish from Baltic and one of our best-selling dishes.

0:57:510:57:54

Caraway works a lot better than cumin, for example.

0:57:540:57:57

-You mention Baltic. You've taken over the reins there.

-Yep.

0:57:570:58:00

12 guys in the kitchen?

0:58:000:58:02

12 Polish man, not any men, Polish men, you know?

0:58:020:58:04

They're not as agreeable as you British, you know?

0:58:040:58:07

Really! THEY LAUGH

0:58:070:58:10

Right, dramatics.

0:58:100:58:12

OK. Place it down.

0:58:120:58:14

Really, what we want to do is to brown it, crispen it.

0:58:140:58:17

At home, please don't use fingers.

0:58:170:58:18

-Do you want me to look after that for you?

-Let me wash my hands.

0:58:180:58:21

I will look after that for you.

0:58:210:58:23

-So, basically just crisping up the skin, yeah?

-We want to seal it, really.

0:58:230:58:26

I don't know, I believe in that kind of sealing it.

0:58:260:58:28

I know it's nothing to do with the juice or the cooking itself,

0:58:280:58:30

but I want to crispen it, really.

0:58:300:58:32

If you have an extractor at home, it's going to be perfectly fine.

0:58:320:58:35

Then it goes into the oven for about eight to ten minutes,

0:58:350:58:38

depending on how well you like it. I like it quite medium.

0:58:380:58:41

-You want to take it out and put it onto a different tray?

-Absolutely.

0:58:410:58:44

Because the juices are very caramelising and basically...

0:58:440:58:47

-So, there's your duck.

-Yeah.

-Nice colour on there.

-Yeah, perfect.

0:58:470:58:51

-I'll put that straight in.

-Exactly.

0:58:510:58:53

So what we're going to do now,

0:58:530:58:55

what I'll do meanwhile, is actually get on with my pilaf.

0:58:550:58:59

My stock goes into hot pan.

0:58:590:59:01

-This one's ready.

-Oh, excellent.

0:59:040:59:06

Let it rest, that would be great.

0:59:060:59:08

So what we're using here, James,

0:59:080:59:10

right here, I'm using cracked wheat.

0:59:100:59:12

This is the coarsest.

0:59:120:59:14

They come in fine, medium course and this is the bulgur wheat.

0:59:140:59:17

It is actually quite coarse.

0:59:170:59:18

So you see it's quite chunky and I really quite like it like that.

0:59:180:59:21

So it goes in here. It cooks very quickly.

0:59:210:59:24

It cooks about ten minutes and it's done.

0:59:240:59:26

I've got some here I prepared earlier.

0:59:260:59:28

Bulgur wheat, it's much better for us than couscous,

0:59:280:59:31

more nutritious than couscous and rice.

0:59:310:59:33

Yes, it is very rich in fibre

0:59:330:59:35

so basically in regard to the book I wrote,

0:59:350:59:37

the Genesis Breast Cancer Prevention Book,

0:59:370:59:40

it's excellent because it has wonderful fibre qualities.

0:59:400:59:43

I've eliminated all white stuff.

0:59:430:59:45

No white pasta. No white rice.

0:59:450:59:46

I'm into real rustic foods like Mama used to make.

0:59:460:59:50

What we're doing here, you're cutting my onions.

0:59:500:59:53

I'm going to get the oil going on here.

0:59:530:59:55

You mentioned the book and bits and pieces.

0:59:550:59:57

-This is for Breast Cancer Awareness Month?

-Yes, it is, it is.

0:59:571:00:00

The Genesis charity is the only charity, actually,

1:00:001:00:03

that concentrates its efforts and its funds on prevention.

1:00:031:00:06

And you know what?

1:00:061:00:08

Prevention actually saves you the labour of being sick.

1:00:081:00:10

It's been found that pomegranate has got sort of the cancer beating...

1:00:101:00:14

-Antioxidants.

-Yeah.

1:00:141:00:16

Pomegranates, berries, cherries have tremendous amounts of antioxidants.

1:00:161:00:19

This is part of the food we do at Baltic as well.

1:00:191:00:21

We do, actually, real healthy, real rustic food.

1:00:211:00:24

For example, I will give you two words - B and B. Berries and beans.

1:00:241:00:28

Beans have tremendous amounts...

1:00:281:00:30

beans and pulses have tremendous amount of antioxidants as well.

1:00:301:00:34

What beans do, if you eat them twice a week,

1:00:341:00:38

they reduce the possibility of breast cancer by 25%.

1:00:381:00:41

So I'm using a different pulse. I'm using chickpeas.

1:00:411:00:44

This is why you've got one nail.

1:00:441:00:46

-Everybody should be doing this.

-Yes.

1:00:461:00:48

Statistically, one woman in ten in Britain has breast cancer.

1:00:481:00:51

A loss, isn't it?

1:00:511:00:52

So it's just to bring awareness, to remind us about that. Onions gone in.

1:00:521:00:56

I'm not putting any garlic because I want the flavour

1:00:561:00:58

from the cherries, from the pomegranate out of here.

1:00:581:01:01

Marie, this is for you. We're going to do this for you separate

1:01:011:01:04

because I know you don't eat meat.

1:01:041:01:05

Yes. Right, so, can you chop my cherries for me, please?

1:01:051:01:08

-Chop the cherries. I can do that.

-While I'm talking to you.

1:01:081:01:10

You know how it is. I have to make you work.

1:01:101:01:13

I'm a woman, after all, I'm bossy.

1:01:131:01:16

So we don't actually get situations like in the beginning of the hour.

1:01:161:01:20

I'd never have guessed.

1:01:201:01:22

You make my job so easy. Chickpeas going in now.

1:01:221:01:25

What I'm going to do now,

1:01:251:01:27

I'm going to continue with my theme of the pomegranate.

1:01:271:01:29

So the pomegranate goes in here. A little bit, not too much.

1:01:291:01:32

And thank you, the cherries are going in.

1:01:321:01:34

I'm going to cook it to the stage where the cherries become

1:01:341:01:37

very mellow, very gooey, they actually begin to melt.

1:01:371:01:40

Those are tremendous quality cherries.

1:01:401:01:42

-They are sold almost everywhere nowadays.

-Yeah.

1:01:421:01:45

If you don't have cherries, use sultanas, use any berries,

1:01:451:01:47

use raisins, anything you like.

1:01:471:01:49

What is very good for you also is cranberries,

1:01:491:01:51

especially now with the season coming up.

1:01:511:01:53

Yep. So I'm going...

1:01:531:01:55

One thing that's great in couscous as well as bulgur wheat is mint.

1:01:551:01:58

I've got some mint and parsley here. Chop it up.

1:01:581:02:01

So what I'm doing now

1:02:011:02:03

is actually adding my cooked in vegetable stock bulgur wheat

1:02:031:02:07

into here.

1:02:071:02:09

So tell us a little bit about this film, then.

1:02:111:02:13

-I mentioned it at the top.

-Oh, yeah.

1:02:131:02:15

I did the food,

1:02:151:02:16

-you know I'm the leading expert on Russian food in Britain?

-Are you?

1:02:161:02:19

-David Cronenberg decided to do a film, Russian Mafia in the UK.

-Right.

1:02:191:02:23

So the film is with Viggo Mortensen, Naomi Watts and Vincent Cassel.

1:02:231:02:27

I was the food consultant.

1:02:271:02:29

The film is going to be opening the London film Festival

1:02:291:02:31

later on in October, and it's absolutely a stunning film.

1:02:311:02:34

Viggo looks amazing.

1:02:341:02:35

-What do they have, banquets and bits and pieces?

-Oh, yeah.

1:02:351:02:38

It is very opulent, just like any Russian Mafia

1:02:381:02:40

-has to entertain in style so the food is very decadent, very opulent.

-Yeah.

1:02:401:02:44

And basically, it was a great, great opportunity

1:02:441:02:47

and I was very, very honoured to work with such an amazing man.

1:02:471:02:50

The food is shot entirely in London

1:02:501:02:53

and it's London, you've never seen it. Stunning.

1:02:531:02:56

-There you go.

-A bit of salt, a bit of pepper here.

1:02:561:03:00

Now, what I'm going to do is open the pomegranate

1:03:001:03:04

and actually get some seeds out,

1:03:041:03:07

so to finish my dish.

1:03:071:03:09

-This is the new superfood.

-You know what, I think it's just taken over.

1:03:091:03:12

Like we had blueberries.

1:03:121:03:14

Blueberries are out, pomegranate is in, in a big way.

1:03:141:03:18

So, yes, it is a bit nicer.

1:03:181:03:20

Normally at home, when I'm not in Russia, will not waste

1:03:201:03:22

-all this delicious juice.

-Nuts?

1:03:221:03:24

Not all of them. If you want to crack them, crack them.

1:03:241:03:26

-But basically, it doesn't matter.

-Right. Pistachio nuts?

-Yeah.

1:03:261:03:30

-What's next?

-I think I'm ready to...

-Ready?

1:03:301:03:35

I'll get my herbs. Hold on.

1:03:351:03:37

The more we leave the pilaf here to stew, kind of thing...

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Yes, please, go for it...

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..the better, because the onions will be a little bit more mellow,

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a little bit more... This is a perfect vegetarian dish.

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In Baltic, we sell this as a vegetarian option

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and people just love it. You know what I do with that?

1:03:501:03:52

-I do tiny little vine stuffed leaves.

-Yes?

-Yes, please.

1:03:521:03:54

-A bit of black pepper.

-That's enough, thank you.

1:03:541:03:57

-Salt?

-No, I'm fine with that.

1:03:571:03:59

-I put a little bit of salt when you weren't watching me.

-I've got a spoon for you here.

1:03:591:04:02

Oh, OK, right. Fancy spoon. Often goes here.

1:04:021:04:05

-Do you want me to slice the duck for you?

-Oh, yes, please.

1:04:051:04:08

-Thank you so much.

-Thinly sliced? Keep it nice and pink.

-Yes.

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If you want it, actually, a little bit better done,

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keep it a little bit longer.

1:04:141:04:16

I love the colours and I love the crunch

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and, oh, this is just one of my favourite...

1:04:181:04:20

I was brought up on beans.

1:04:201:04:21

-Certain nations, like the Irish, they like potatoes.

-Yes.

1:04:211:04:25

Where I come from, we have a very strong pulses kind of following.

1:04:251:04:29

So we do a lot of beans,

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a lot of lentils. So it's great.

1:04:311:04:33

It is so good for you. So, beans and berries.

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Remember, if you want a healthy diet, beans, berries and nuts.

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-Beans, berries and nuts.

-Which nuts?

1:04:391:04:41

I wish nuts started with a B, but they don't, so I could say

1:04:411:04:44

-the three Bs. So it's two Bs and one N.

-Just a few of those on this?

1:04:441:04:47

-Yeah.

-So remind us what this is again.

1:04:471:04:49

This is a delicious pomegranate glazed duck

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with crunchy bulgur pilaf, chickpeas,

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pomegranate and sour cherries.

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It's as easy as that.

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-Looks delicious, I have to say. There we go.

-Thank you.

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Everything is switched off. There we go. Have a seat.

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-Marie, there's yours.

-Thank you.

-Special plate for you.

1:05:091:05:12

-How beautiful. Looks beautiful.

-Thank you so much.

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And then you get to dive into this. Tell us what you think.

1:05:141:05:18

Is this kind of cooking a new one for you?

1:05:241:05:27

Mm-mm.

1:05:271:05:29

Oh, it's really good because,

1:05:291:05:31

not eating meat, I eat a lot of couscous, a lot of pulses.

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But I never thought of putting pomegranate or the cherries.

1:05:341:05:37

-I really like it. It's very good.

-Thank you.

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And this sound is from the pomegranate molasses in it.

1:05:401:05:42

-Fantastic.

-It just gives you a little bit of extra...

1:05:421:05:45

-It's all good stuff.

-Can you buy that anywhere,

1:05:451:05:47

-that pomegranate juice?

-Yes, you can.

1:05:471:05:49

-It's pomegranate molasses. You can.

-It's quite strong.

1:05:491:05:53

It is. It's like a reduction. It's very strong.

1:05:531:05:56

It's basically like sugar molasses, only made with pomegranate and sugar.

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So a little bit of it is great. Works very well with fish as well.

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-It's absolutely delicious. Do you want to try?

-Guys? Mick?

1:06:031:06:06

-Very, very nice.

-Happy with that?

1:06:061:06:09

-I love duck.

-Very good.

1:06:091:06:12

Bulgur wheat is not actually used so much.

1:06:121:06:14

No, it's not. But we're using it a lot more now.

1:06:141:06:16

Basically, all the wheats and the buckwheat as well,

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basically lots of different grains.

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They're so good for you, so good for your body, for your insides,

1:06:211:06:24

for everything.

1:06:241:06:25

One of the great things about cooking with Silvena

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is you don't have to talk much.

1:06:311:06:33

It's the Omelette Challenge time now.

1:06:331:06:35

Could Sophie Grigson become the fastest woman

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on our Omelette Challenge leaderboard?

1:06:381:06:39

Or would Michael Caines' practice pay off? Take a look at this.

1:06:391:06:43

Right, now it's time to get down to business.

1:06:431:06:45

-They're getting a start on. Sophie, Michael, are you ready?

-No!

1:06:451:06:48

Yes. It's time for the ultimate challenge. Our Omelette Challenge.

1:06:481:06:51

Sophie, you've got to beat... Tara Ramsay was very happy.

1:06:511:06:53

No, I haven't. I'm not that competitive.

1:06:531:06:55

Tara Ramsay there, highest rated woman on the show. 47 seconds.

1:06:551:06:58

She beat Angela Hartnett, who's had an ear bashing,

1:06:581:07:01

apparently, because she's been gloating about it all week. Not bad.

1:07:011:07:05

Big range. 33 seconds right down,

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and don't forget that two were disqualified at the bottom...

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-Why were they disqualified?

-Because it's not an omelette.

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What I want to do, this is a standard three-egg omelette.

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Butter, cream, milk, cheese if you want to use it.

1:07:161:07:19

But it must be a three-egg omelette, folded, as fast as you can.

1:07:191:07:22

The time starts when I say, it stops when it hits the plate.

1:07:221:07:25

I want an omelette, not scrambled egg,

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and I don't want it still clucking around the farmyard in the middle.

1:07:261:07:30

-All right?

-Right.

-Ready? Three, two, one, go.

1:07:301:07:33

Does it matter if it has shell in it?

1:07:351:07:37

This is where chefs panic!

1:07:371:07:39

Panic? Not panicking.

1:07:391:07:41

-Lots of butter in there. Do you want all that butter in there?

-Yes, I do!

1:07:411:07:44

-Just shut up and go away, James.

-OK.

-I don't need your help.

1:07:441:07:46

-I'll speak to you, then, Michael.

-Yeah, I'm good.

1:07:461:07:49

-So when was the last time you made an omelette?

-Oh, yesterday.

1:07:491:07:53

-Have you been fiddling with my heat?

-I haven't touched your knob.

1:07:531:07:56

That's not fair, he gets the heat knob.

1:07:561:07:58

Not too bad. Whoa, whoa, what...?

1:07:581:08:01

Go away, go away, it's meant to be there. It's extra flavour.

1:08:011:08:03

-Don't you know that?

-That's not flavour and it's not protein.

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Do you not know anything?

1:08:061:08:08

Sophie, that is a big shell in the middle of that omelette.

1:08:081:08:10

-You're just imagining it.

-He's caught you up.

1:08:101:08:13

This could be very, very quick, very quick.

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Could be very, very slow at this rate.

1:08:181:08:19

Have you turned the heat down something?

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He's probably turn my heat down.

1:08:211:08:23

You'll have to hurry up, the football starts in a minute.

1:08:231:08:26

-Come on. Get it folded.

-Get it folded, he says.

1:08:261:08:29

There you go. It's looking good. He's ahead of the game.

1:08:311:08:33

-Clock stops there!

-Yes!

1:08:331:08:36

-That's scrambled egg.

-No, it isn't.

1:08:361:08:38

-It's baveuse.

-That's got to be the quickest one-handed omelette.

1:08:381:08:41

-Exactly.

-Baveuse.

1:08:411:08:43

I should knock 15 seconds off of that for Michael.

1:08:431:08:47

-Right, let's have a look at this.

-Oh.

1:08:471:08:50

-It's only because you were hurrying me.

-Where's that shell?

1:08:501:08:53

Look, look, look!

1:08:551:08:57

-Look at that.

-I don't think omelettes should be cooked

1:08:591:09:02

that fast. That's why they go leathery.

1:09:021:09:04

Good heat when you get the eggs in, but then a little bit of...

1:09:041:09:07

-Have you finished making your excuses?

-No, I haven't.

1:09:071:09:09

I could carry on for another five minutes

1:09:091:09:12

-if you wanted me to.

-Michael.

1:09:121:09:14

-Seasoned nicely. Nicely cooked.

-Very nice.

1:09:141:09:18

It's not like eggs fried in butter.

1:09:181:09:20

But I'll let you have it.

1:09:201:09:22

Because I don't think you've come top. How do you think you've done?

1:09:221:09:26

-Sophie, you first.

-Feed me some egg.

1:09:261:09:27

No, I don't want to. It's more mine. I'm going to sulk around the corner.

1:09:271:09:31

How do you think you've done?

1:09:311:09:32

-Terribly. It tastes quite nice, actually.

-You did it...

1:09:321:09:36

-No.

-No, you didn't.

1:09:361:09:38

One minute, four seconds,

1:09:381:09:42

which is just about there,

1:09:421:09:43

just below, oh, that's Oliver gone.

1:09:431:09:46

There we go. Right.

1:09:461:09:48

-I don't think I've done it much more than you, you know.

-No, you beat me.

1:09:481:09:52

Michael, with one hand, you did it in...

1:09:521:09:54

Mine tastes rather good, actually, James.

1:09:541:09:57

-I don't know what you were grimacing about.

-One minute...

-Excuse me.

1:09:571:10:01

-..two seconds.

-Oh.

-Level with Atul.

1:10:011:10:04

-Fantastic. Well done, mate.

-Thank you very much.

1:10:041:10:06

-I need a bigger board after all of that.

-Great.

1:10:061:10:09

Sophie Grigson there,

1:10:121:10:14

one of the only chefs ever to put cheese on their omelette

1:10:141:10:17

on the show. The man who wrote the book All About Pork,

1:10:171:10:20

Stephane Reynaud,

1:10:201:10:21

took a brief moment away from his restaurant in Paris

1:10:211:10:23

to show us how to cook filet mignon with a Far Eastern twist.

1:10:231:10:26

But he needed to be quick

1:10:261:10:28

because he had to be back there before dinner service.

1:10:281:10:30

-Great to have you on the show.

-It's a pleasure for me.

1:10:301:10:33

-The book is absolutely fantastic.

-Thanks a lot.

1:10:331:10:35

We'll get onto that in a minute.

1:10:351:10:37

But tell us what you're cooking, first of all.

1:10:371:10:39

-We're going to cook some filet mignon.

-Filet mignon.

1:10:391:10:42

-Yes, with a sweet and sour sauce.

-Yep.

-Very easy to do, to fix.

-Yep.

1:10:421:10:45

I said at the top of the show,

1:10:451:10:47

-unusual for a Frenchman to cook oriental food.

-Yes.

1:10:471:10:51

I didn't want to cook a real French recipe,

1:10:511:10:55

-a Frenchman who's coming to cook.

-Yes.

1:10:551:10:59

-No, it's more Asiatic.

-Yeah.

1:10:591:11:01

-We're going to make a sweet and sour sauce.

-You do that.

1:11:011:11:04

-I'll keep my eye on this thing.

-Pineapple there. That's fine.

1:11:041:11:08

-This is the fillet of the pork?

-The filet mignon.

1:11:081:11:12

Now, this bit is like the fillet steak of the pig,

1:11:131:11:17

I suppose, really?

1:11:171:11:20

-So could you chop the onion, that one?

-Yes, OK.

1:11:201:11:23

-Going to be OK.

-You're going to make the sauce for this?

-Yes.

-All right.

1:11:231:11:27

I'm going to make the sweet and sour sauce with the pineapple,

1:11:271:11:29

-with the garlic.

-Now, looking at the book,

1:11:291:11:32

it's a fantastic book.

1:11:321:11:35

You've brought in all kinds of people. It's not just yourself.

1:11:351:11:38

Where did your love of pork start off?

1:11:381:11:41

I grew up in a little village.

1:11:411:11:43

-There is a real tradition with the pork.

-Yep.

1:11:431:11:46

This tradition with the pork is in my heart.

1:11:461:11:49

-It's very important for me...

-Yeah.

1:11:491:11:51

..to write this book for all the family.

1:11:511:11:54

I wanted that my kids knew the story of the family.

1:11:541:11:57

That's why I love this animal.

1:11:571:12:00

-But I like meat, too.

-Yes.

1:12:001:12:02

It's a big problem for me.

1:12:021:12:04

-But there's not many pictures of the pig.

-No pictures, only drawings.

1:12:041:12:08

-Human drawings.

-And this is another friend of yours

1:12:081:12:10

-that's done the drawings for the pigs.

-Yeah. So it was...

1:12:101:12:14

Pigs on bikes.

1:12:141:12:15

Pictures of recipes and drawing of the animal.

1:12:151:12:18

-Yeah, OK. Right.

-So we fixed the sauce.

-Yeah.

1:12:181:12:22

So the sauce is done.

1:12:241:12:26

We are to cook it during five minutes

1:12:261:12:29

to be like that, to caramelise.

1:12:291:12:32

So, Ben, you could be doing this with yours, yeah?

1:12:331:12:37

-Yeah, yeah.

-OK.

1:12:371:12:38

We're going to chop the...

1:12:421:12:45

OK, so these are the...

1:12:451:12:48

-How do you want these chopped? Just thin, yeah?

-Yeah.

1:12:481:12:50

So tell us about your restaurant

1:12:501:12:52

on the outskirts of Paris, then.

1:12:521:12:54

My restaurant is in the east of Paris, in the Seine-Saint-Denis.

1:12:541:12:57

-Yeah.

-And the name is Villa 9 Trois.

1:12:571:12:59

It's a very old house in a big park,

1:12:591:13:02

so it's a very strange place

1:13:021:13:03

-because you forget you're in Paris.

-Right.

1:13:031:13:05

You're like, I don't know, everywhere in the countryside.

1:13:051:13:08

You should come.

1:13:081:13:10

-And you're going straight back there tonight, is it?

-Yeah.

1:13:101:13:13

-I will be there. Go back to the kitchen tonight?

-Yeah.

1:13:131:13:16

The type of menu that you have,

1:13:161:13:19

is it predominantly meat-based?

1:13:191:13:21

A load of pork, obviously.

1:13:211:13:23

There is some pork, but not only pork.

1:13:231:13:25

There is some fish.

1:13:251:13:27

Everything I like. I love food, so...

1:13:271:13:30

I love animal, too. I didn't want to...

1:13:301:13:33

what to do when I was 18, between a vet and between a cook.

1:13:331:13:37

-That's what I wanted to be.

-Yeah?

-Seriously.

1:13:371:13:40

I wanted to be a vet or a cook.

1:13:401:13:42

I love to stay in a table.

1:13:421:13:44

My dad said, "You're too thick to be a vet," and he said,

1:13:441:13:46

-"You like all your animals with chips."

-The same for me.

1:13:461:13:49

That was it, into catering college, off you go, lad.

1:13:491:13:52

The same story.

1:13:521:13:53

But, I mean, pork, a lot of people don't really...

1:13:561:13:59

-People think pork is fatty and stuff.

-No, come on, it's great.

1:13:591:14:03

That's people's interpretation, but you need that fat to keep it.

1:14:031:14:06

It's very good, there is good breed of pork with a very nice fat,

1:14:061:14:10

like cul noir du limousin in French, it's gorgeous.

1:14:101:14:13

-That's where all the flavour is.

-I always think...

1:14:131:14:16

Fat is very important in pork.

1:14:161:14:18

I always think pigs should be bred to sit in a field and do nothing -

1:14:181:14:21

not to do the 100m hurdles, people still think it should be quite lean.

1:14:211:14:25

It should be a nice, decent amount of fat to meat,

1:14:251:14:27

keeps it lovely and flavoursome.

1:14:271:14:29

-Fat is very important for me.

-Yeah.

1:14:291:14:32

-I'll turn that one up.

-Thank you.

1:14:321:14:34

-So we're going to go the vegetable in five minutes more.

-Yeah, OK.

1:14:341:14:38

-Could you...? Yes.

-Do you want some of this?

-I will use this one.

1:14:381:14:40

The great thing about pig, I suppose, the pork, I suppose,

1:14:401:14:43

and particularly in France, you can use every part of it,

1:14:431:14:45

-can't you, really?

-Yeah.

-I mean, the boudin noir...

1:14:451:14:48

-The boudin noir, les oreilles, everything.

-What would be the most...

1:14:481:14:51

What would be the most famous dish in France that they do with a pig?

1:14:511:14:55

-I love the pate de tete.

-That's the pig's head.

-Yeah, I love that.

1:14:551:14:59

Yes! So it's a pate made out of the pig's head.

1:14:591:15:02

Now, it puts a lot of people off,

1:15:021:15:03

but we have a thing in the UK which is called brawn, which is the same.

1:15:031:15:06

You basically brine the pig's head, boil it up with the vegetables,

1:15:061:15:09

-then take them off, then press it with the vegetables in?

-Yeah.

1:15:091:15:12

-Fantastic.

-I love that.

-Yeah, lovely.

1:15:121:15:14

Remind us what's happening, we've got the veg in.

1:15:141:15:16

-We've got some onions.

-Yeah.

1:15:161:15:19

We put... And then...

1:15:191:15:21

-..the sauce.

-Yeah.

1:15:221:15:24

And we will cool that during two more minutes.

1:15:241:15:27

So, basically, the sauce is what we've got in here.

1:15:271:15:29

-Yeah.

-Just reduce it down.

-Yes, to be caramelised.

-Yeah.

1:15:291:15:32

-The vinegar has to be all, uh... evaporated.

-Yeah.

1:15:321:15:35

Right, wonderful. So, anyway, we've got this,

1:15:371:15:39

we've got the chives going in at the last minute.

1:15:391:15:41

-I've got the plate for you.

-Great.

1:15:411:15:42

-In there you've got a little bit of cucumber as well?

-Yeah.

1:15:421:15:45

We've got cucumbers, some zucchini, some green pepper.

1:15:451:15:50

-Yeah.

-Onions.

1:15:501:15:52

So are you like most French chefs, self-taught,

1:15:521:15:55

or are you classically trained, or...how did it all start for you?

1:15:551:16:00

-How I start to be a chef?

-Yeah.

1:16:001:16:02

I don't know - because I loved food, that's all!

1:16:021:16:04

You know, I love to spend time around the table with friends,

1:16:041:16:06

to share, because food for me has to be shared, you know.

1:16:061:16:09

If you go in a restaurant and you have good food without friends...

1:16:091:16:14

But your family were a generation of butchers.

1:16:141:16:17

-Yes, my grandpa.

-Your grandpa.

1:16:171:16:18

-My father was a teacher.

-Right.

-So it's different.

1:16:181:16:21

And I grew up with my grandpa,

1:16:211:16:23

so I spent a lot of time in his butchery,

1:16:231:16:25

so I think that's why I like so much to eat.

1:16:251:16:28

-So...

-You know, to have pork at the breakfast, pork for lunch...

1:16:281:16:32

You've had huge success over this... Yeah, pork for lunch!

1:16:321:16:35

-Pork for dinner.

-Pork everywhere.

-Yeah!

1:16:351:16:37

You've had huge success with the book, what's next on the horizon?

1:16:371:16:40

The next one is going to be... it's already done,

1:16:401:16:43

-it's...in France, the name is Ripailles.

-Ripailles?

1:16:431:16:46

Ripailles means good food with good friends

1:16:461:16:48

with good drink with good fun..

1:16:481:16:50

-Yes.

-So it's a...

-A useful word to learn, I suppose.

1:16:501:16:53

It's a book, you know, with songs inside,

1:16:531:16:55

-different kinds of things I like.

-Wonderful.

1:16:551:16:58

So, Stephane, remind us what that dish is again.

1:16:581:17:00

So this is the filet mignon

1:17:001:17:02

with the vegetables and sweet and sour sauce.

1:17:021:17:05

-It's as simple as that.

-Yeah.

-Fantastic.

1:17:051:17:08

-And we've got to taste it, so follow me over.

-Bon appetit!

1:17:121:17:15

Bon appetit, over here.

1:17:151:17:17

-And, Ben, it just keeps coming.

-Must I? Must I?

1:17:171:17:20

-You lucky man!

-Wow!

1:17:201:17:24

-Yeah?

-I'm going to go for a bit of pork, I just want to see what the...

1:17:241:17:28

Look at that. It's almost like a medallion of pork.

1:17:281:17:31

See if it's as good as your pork.

1:17:311:17:32

-Mmm!

-The sauce, it's a great way to do the sauce,

1:17:351:17:37

-reducing it down separate, it's nice.

-Oh, that's lovely.

1:17:371:17:41

That's all you get, then it gets passed to Helen!

1:17:411:17:43

-You've got to be quick in this game.

-That's really good.

1:17:431:17:45

But what do you do? What type of stuff do you do with your pork?

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Well, mostly we make sausages,

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mix them with marmalade and stuff like that.

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-We do, um...a lot of pork belly.

-Pork belly's wonderful.

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-I mean, for a slow-cooked dish...

-For slow-food cook, it's...

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-The belly pork, wonderful.

-Absolutely.

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-Theo?

-Delicious, I love the cucumber, it really freshens it up.

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It's different, isn't it? Really nice.

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I'll do that in my next stir-fry, put some cucumber in there.

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And the next time you reach for that bottle of sweet and sour sauce,

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shut the cupboard and make your own.

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The tension on the cricket pitch is nothing

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compared to the anticipation when cricketing legend Freddie Flintoff

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faced his Food Heaven or Food Hell.

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And do not adjust your set -

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yes, there really is a can of baked beans on the table.

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Take a look at this.

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Everybody here has made their minds up.

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-Food Heaven would be, of course, a fancy fish and chips.

-Fancy?

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With tartar sauce, with possibly beans,

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because we've found some, yeah, exactly!

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So you could be having that with some chips cooked by Mr Ken Hom.

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Alternatively, we've got a pile of chicken over there,

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harissa spiced chicken

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with potatoes and onions and tomatoes and all that kind of stuff.

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How do you think these lot have decided?

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It was 2-1 to our viewers at home.

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-I've been nice to them, I reckon...

-You have!

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I reckon they're going fishfingers.

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-Shona changed her mind, they've all gone fishfingers.

-Fantastic!

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So there you go, easy. So we lose this out the way, guys.

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First off, I'm going to do my breadcrumbs,

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so I want you to make tartare sauce, please, Sean.

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That would be great, we've got egg yolks in there.

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We make that by adding some shallots and bits and pieces at the end.

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Ken, if you can do me the chips, please,

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-that well-known Chinese dish.

-But not in the wok.

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Not in the wok, in the deep-fat fryer, that would be great.

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And then we're going to make our breadcrumbs here.

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Now, you can, of course, use the Japanese crumbs,

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which are...brilliant, the dry Japanese crumb,

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which are much drier than the fresh breadcrumbs and they crisp up well.

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But this is the simpler version, where you just make these...

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You could, of course, put some herbs in there and bits and pieces,

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but we'll just breadcrumb these up.

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Here you go.

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So you can make this for your kids, you see?

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Yeah, I'm just watching, yeah.

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It's easy so...

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for fishfingers, really you need flour, which we've got...

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Flour, you need egg.

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-So without the shell, hopefully. Get a fork there.

-Oh, sorry.

1:20:101:20:15

And breadcrumbs. And, basically, that is...

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What, just mix them together and that's it?

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Well, the idea is you keep them separate first, you see?

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And chefs would call... The word for this is to pane,

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it's to basically coat in flour, egg and breadcrumbs.

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But you start off in that order,

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and it's classically done with chicken Kiev

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all that kind of stuff, so your flour, head and breadcrumbs.

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And then you've got your fish, of course.

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Mayonnaise is being made.

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We're going to use this rapeseed oil as well, which is...

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Well, it's made all over the place now, really,

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but they make this out of oilseed rape.

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Healthier oil, isn't it?

1:20:481:20:49

Yeah, well, it's healthy, rich in omega-3, very good for us as well.

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The fact that we're going to deep-fry this fish

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is kind of irrelevant, really!

1:20:551:20:56

-It's all good.

-Yeah, and we've got the fish,

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and we're going to cut this into sort of thin strips.

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Now, this is haddock. You can use whatever fish you want.

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Now, traditionally, sort of goujons, fancy goujons,

1:21:041:21:07

would be done with sole or... or plaice as well,

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but mainly flatfish, really.

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But we've got this, lose the skin out of the way.

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And then to make this, you basically dip the fish in flour.

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There you go.

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-And then you put it in the egg.

-Is that it?

1:21:231:21:26

I don't mean it like that!

1:21:261:21:28

What do you want me to do, reinvent the wheel?!

1:21:281:21:30

-No, you're doing a grand job, but it's...

-Flour, egg...

1:21:301:21:34

-It's pretty simple, isn't it?

-Yeah!

-Even I could do that, I reckon.

1:21:341:21:37

-KEN CHUCKLES

-So flour, egg and breadcrumbs.

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And that's it, really.

1:21:401:21:42

Easy as that. And then you deep-fat fry them.

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So again, in the flour, you can put seasoned flour in here.

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Same with chicken goujons as well.

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It's the same thing - flour, egg and breadcrumbs.

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That's it.

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But you can buy your breadcrumbs already made,

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so you don't need to even blend them.

1:21:541:21:57

-So you can make it even easier?

-Even easier.

1:21:571:21:59

The drier the crumb, the better it is, really, because like I said,

1:21:591:22:02

there are these Japanese crumbs around which are fantastic.

1:22:021:22:05

-Panko breadcrumbs are lovely, aren't they?

-Yeah, they're the ones.

1:22:051:22:08

Flour, egg...and breadcrumbs. And that's it.

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Dust those over the top.

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Wash my hands. Ken, hopefully, has got our chips in.

1:22:151:22:18

-Straight in, please, Ken, that would be great.

-Thank you.

1:22:181:22:20

And since I'm over here, I can do your fish as well.

1:22:201:22:24

Straight in there.

1:22:241:22:26

And then we've got the fish. The fish goes in for about four minutes.

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I'll do that for you.

1:22:291:22:31

I'll do a thing that I've never done before on Saturday Kitchen.

1:22:311:22:35

Beans?

1:22:351:22:37

-That's a new one!

-Baked beans!

1:22:371:22:39

Do you need help with them? Are you all right?

1:22:391:22:42

-Where's the toast?

-It's not easy, getting the right bean.

-Isn't it?

1:22:421:22:46

Now, you could do these...

1:22:461:22:47

Do you know how to make barbecue beans from these?

1:22:471:22:50

-No.

-Don't add barbecue sauce.

1:22:501:22:52

Soy sauce, brown sugar... and that's it.

1:22:521:22:54

-And you got barbecue beans?

-Barbecue beans.

1:22:541:22:57

If you want to put a bit of spice in there, a bit of chilli,

1:22:571:22:59

that's it, simple as that. Over here, we've got...

1:22:591:23:02

Look at that, he's got his own mayonnaise he's made.

1:23:021:23:06

So a quick and simple little bit of mayonnaise.

1:23:061:23:09

And then what we're going to do is turn this into tartare sauce.

1:23:091:23:13

I know you're not a fan, but I want you to try...

1:23:131:23:15

What is in tartare sauce? Obviously them.

1:23:151:23:18

-It's...gherkins...

-Gherkins.

-..capers, shallots and herbs.

1:23:181:23:22

That's it, and it's basically that folded into mayonnaise.

1:23:221:23:25

But you can see, the mayonnaise that we've made,

1:23:251:23:27

-look what happens when you use that rapeseed oil, that yellow.

-Yeah.

1:23:271:23:31

Rapeseed oil produces this wonderful colour.

1:23:311:23:33

And it's fantastic for this, really, so...

1:23:331:23:35

So you just concentrate on your beans.

1:23:351:23:37

-I don't want to burn them, do I?!

-Get your priorities right!

1:23:371:23:41

Hey, you've got him cooking!

1:23:411:23:43

Now, I didn't get to speak to you about your venture

1:23:431:23:46

that you set up after cricket, your academy.

1:23:461:23:49

-How is that going?

-Yeah, it's going well.

1:23:491:23:51

It was probably the way I still keep involved in cricket.

1:23:511:23:55

It was all about kids, we had 70 this year up and down the country.

1:23:551:23:58

-Right.

-And it's not trying to find stars of the future,

1:23:581:24:01

cos all the counties have got a lid on all the players, it's more...

1:24:011:24:04

Cos we're doing pretty well at that, aren't we?

1:24:041:24:06

-I'm a bit disappointed, really.

-Why?

1:24:061:24:09

I retired, Lancashire win the championship, England are number one.

1:24:091:24:12

-So...

-Doesn't that say something?

1:24:121:24:14

It's a good job I'm not fragile!

1:24:141:24:17

But, yeah, it's amazing, I go up and down,

1:24:171:24:19

spend some time with the kids, watch them playing.

1:24:191:24:21

-It's all about kids playing cricket.

-Yeah.

1:24:211:24:23

You know, which is important to me.

1:24:231:24:25

-You know, cricket change my life.

-Yeah.

-So...yeah.

1:24:251:24:29

Is it quite difficult to get kids into that sort of stuff,

1:24:291:24:31

with obviously all the other stuff, computer games and stuff like that?

1:24:311:24:34

They're not doing it so much, are they?

1:24:341:24:36

Yeah, even my own kids, my five-year-old,

1:24:361:24:38

he plays on his DS, and you've got to take it off him to play sport.

1:24:381:24:41

And...you know, cricket is always competing with football,

1:24:411:24:44

-which is the national sport.

-Yeah.

1:24:441:24:46

But I think you'll find, when England are doing well in any sport,

1:24:461:24:48

-the country gets behind them and people want to play.

-Yeah.

1:24:481:24:51

And at the minute, England are number one in the world

1:24:511:24:54

and there's a real excitement about the game.

1:24:541:24:56

It's a shame my grandfather's still not alive,

1:24:561:24:58

because he was the one that taught me how to play cricket

1:24:581:25:00

when I was a young kid, so when I was about six years old,

1:25:001:25:03

there was a Yorkshireman outside his house,

1:25:031:25:05

he used to bowl at me 100mph,

1:25:051:25:07

because he used to bowl with Freddie Trueman.

1:25:071:25:09

Did he? Freddie was a great man.

1:25:091:25:11

He was quick, and he used to bowl at me with a proper cricket ball,

1:25:111:25:14

proper hard cricket ball, and I had a plastic bat!

1:25:141:25:16

-Yeah?

-From, like, Toys R Us!

1:25:161:25:18

-Is that why you started cooking?

-I had bruises all over, yeah.

1:25:181:25:21

Toys R Us wasn't around then!

1:25:211:25:23

Well, yeah, it wasn't, really, but there you go.

1:25:231:25:26

So anyway, we just...loads of herbs, so we've got some parsley...

1:25:261:25:30

I think these beans are nearly done.

1:25:301:25:33

-There you go. Are the beans ready?

-Nearly done, yeah.

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LAUGHTER

1:25:351:25:37

How are we doing with our fish?

1:25:371:25:39

A little bit of lemon juice in there, do you want?

1:25:391:25:42

A little touch more, I reckon, yeah.

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There you go, a little bit of lemon juice, salt?

1:25:431:25:46

I remember when my wife first cooked for us,

1:25:461:25:48

she cooked us a fish, and she left the head on it.

1:25:481:25:50

And she put herbs in the middle, and I says, "I can't eat that,

1:25:501:25:52

"there's no breadcrumbs or batter on it," so she had to change it.

1:25:521:25:55

And there was these things on the plate as well.

1:25:551:25:57

I says, "Why have you cooked the cucumbers?"

1:25:571:26:00

-Right.

-She says, "No, they're courgettes."

1:26:001:26:02

I'd never seen one!

1:26:021:26:04

Maybe we should do a cooking show...

1:26:041:26:07

-Right.

-We can ask him, how do you know when the beans are cooked?

1:26:071:26:12

Ask him, ask him!

1:26:121:26:14

And they've taken the label off, so I haven't got a clue!

1:26:141:26:17

-Ken, I've cooked beans before.

-You've cooked beans before?

1:26:171:26:20

You stick to your Chinese food. LAUGHTER

1:26:201:26:23

Oh, that was very good!

1:26:241:26:27

Right.

1:26:271:26:28

I am cooking for you, Freddie, so I'll just put a small portion...

1:26:281:26:32

Yeah!

1:26:321:26:34

-Look at that on there.

-Good, they look nice.

1:26:341:26:36

I think another minute there, Ken.

1:26:361:26:38

LAUGHTER

1:26:381:26:41

Oh, he's so cheeky! He's very cheeky.

1:26:411:26:43

-A bit of the old tartare sauce, which is left to one side.

-Super.

1:26:451:26:50

Lemon.

1:26:501:26:51

Ken, in his own time...

1:26:521:26:55

Omelette!

1:26:551:26:56

-I don't believe...

-Come on, Ken!

-Oh.

1:26:571:27:00

-Oh, go on, then, yeah.

-There you go.

1:27:051:27:08

-A bit of greenery.

-Don't ruin it!

1:27:081:27:11

No greenery!

1:27:111:27:13

-Some beans!

-Oh...

-Ruined by the beans!

1:27:151:27:19

Five years of doing this show!

1:27:201:27:23

A sprinkle of parsley, I've had enough.

1:27:231:27:26

-Freddie, dive in.

-Yeah.

1:27:271:27:30

Right, do you want to bring over the glasses, girls?

1:27:301:27:33

You were straight in the beans, look!

1:27:331:27:36

Taste your home-made fishfingers, now you know how to make them.

1:27:361:27:40

-Mmm.

-Eh?

1:27:421:27:44

-I didn't think you could get better than the frozen ones, but...

-Come on!

1:27:441:27:48

-They're amazing.

-Yeah?

-Amazing!

1:27:481:27:50

No, it's because I cooked them.

1:27:501:27:53

The chips are a bit hard, aren't they?

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See, who'd have thought it?

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Freddie Flintoff telling Ken Hom how to cook.

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Well, that's it for today's Best Bites.

1:28:051:28:06

If you want to have a go at any of the cooking

1:28:061:28:08

you've seen on today's programme,

1:28:081:28:10

you can find all the studio recipes on our website.

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Just go to bbc.co.uk/recipes.

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There are loads and loads of great ideas for you to choose from.

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So have a fantastic week and happy cooking, bye for now.

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