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Good morning. If it's culinary inspiration you're after,

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you're in the perfect place. This is Saturday Kitchen Best Bites.

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Welcome to the show.

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We have some top-flight chefs aplenty today,

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ready to cook for some pretty hungry celebrities.

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Coming up on today's show,

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the wonderful Angela Hartnett shares her love of the Mediterranean.

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She cooks succulent chicken with chorizo,

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peppers and sage with spiced aubergines.

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And Martin Blunos creates a summery treat.

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He sears some chicken livers

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and serves them with spinach, peas and sherry.

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And the queen of Indian cooking Madhur Jaffrey

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brings beef to the table.

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She makes an incredible beef jalfrezi

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and serves it with broccoli and sweet and sour squash.

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And Spooks actress Miranda Raison faced her Food Heaven or Food Hell.

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Would she get her Food Heaven,

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lobster, with my home-made lobster ravioli with sauteed courgettes

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and asparagus, or would she get her dreaded Food Hell,

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peppers with my Italian-inspired peperonata with stuffed squid?

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You can find out what she gets to eat at the end of today's show.

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But first, this man has been called one of the founding fathers

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of modern British cookery, but on this occasion

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I couldn't call him that because he wasn't really doing any cooking. It's Nick Nairn.

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-So what are we cooking then?

-There's no real cooking in this.

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It's an assembly of lovely ingredients,

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things that really get on with one another. We've got this

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beautiful smoked haddock which we are going to slice very thinly

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and then marinate with a ceviche marinade

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which is olive oil, lime juice, pink peppercorns...

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Pink peppercorns. They are great for this, aren't they.

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They do them in herring, mackerel...

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This is the one dish they work in for me.

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And then a salad of crab with apple and a little bit of celeriac.

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-From the French remoulade sort of thing.

-Like the French version of a coleslaw, isn't it?

-Exactly.

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And you're going to make some mayonnaise?

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-I'm going to make some mayonnaise.

-You are, but first could you make some toast?

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I can make some ciabatta toast. Absolutely.

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The idea behind this dish is that you have the toast, the ceviche, and then you have the crab together.

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So it all works together.

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So we're just going to take some thin slices of this ciabatta.

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So you don't actually cook this.

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This has already been smoked, but you must get the right haddock.

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It's got to be the proper undyed, smoked haddock.

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Top of the range quality. And it has to be fresh as well.

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Although the smoked fish lasts longer, that's originally why it was

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smoked, it has to be reasonably fresh because you are eating it raw.

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And of course the acid in the lime actually starts to cure the flesh.

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It does pretty much the same thing as if you were actually cooking it

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in a hot pan. So we'll carve this.

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I'll carve this at the last minute as well.

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I like to keep that quite last-minute.

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So you've got the toast going in there.

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We'll put a bit of thyme on there as well.

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-I love this stuff.

-Yeah.

-British ingredients.

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It's the ingredient of the mo.

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There are some very good Scottish producers doing that as well.

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-Of course, there would be in Scotland.

-Yes, we'll get that in there.

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LAUGHTER

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-The best stuff comes from Yorkshire, though. But anyway, right.

-South West.

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-Straight in the bottom there.

-Why don't you make some mayonnaise?

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Mayonnaise. Egg yolks, a bit of mustard,

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a little bit of vinegar and some of this rapeseed oil.

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Mustard is really important in mayonnaise,

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because it is the thing that most defines the mayonnaise.

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-So put the egg yolks in there.

-What I'm doing is taking the celeriac

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and cutting it down on a mandolin.

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Thin slices on the old finger-shredder.

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If you don't have one of these just take a sharp knife

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and go for it with a sharp knife.

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And we'll just add that in to a mixing bowl with some of the apple

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and we'll bind it together with the mayonnaise.

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In goes the crab, a little bit of lemon juice,

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and finally a bit of freshly chopped parsley.

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So you, like Michael, never stop. Tell us about your new venture.

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Yeah. We set up this kind of consultancy business.

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Reckoned the recession might throw up a few businesses

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that wanted a bit of culinary help, and it has done.

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We are working with Hilton Hotels.

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There's an iconic local hotel, Dunblane Hydro.

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-Scotland had this tradition of Hydro hotels.

-Yes.

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And these hotels had fallen into a bit of...

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They were getting a bit sorry and a bit tired.

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The new owners pumped lots of money into it, 13 million quid.

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-Put a new spa in there and stuff.

-All of that stuff. It's looking stunning.

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So we're working as consultants in the restaurant.

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It's been a while, as you reminded me the other day,

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since I did any proper cooking.

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And although I won't be there on a regular basis in the kitchen,

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my team are in there and I'm excited again.

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You know that thing when you start these projects, you're just like,

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-"Whoo, it's all going to work!"

-It doesn't last.

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No.

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LAUGHTER

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The honeymoon period.

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But we're taking things easy

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so rather than just opening straightaway we're taking

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the next couple of months to work with the guys there,

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build a new team, different tasks,

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a new executive chef in there, big Stevie.

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And he's building a really good team.

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So, exciting times. And they've called it The Kailyard,

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which is an old Scottish walled garden where you grow your veggies.

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-Right.

-Kailyard - does that mean anything to you guys?

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-Yeah, uh-huh.

-Yeah!

-Resonates well.

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LAUGHTER I think so. I think it...

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-Yeah, anyway.

-Right, we've got the mayonnaise here.

-Beautiful.

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Um, and I think, I'm really glad that you're doing that home-made

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mayonnaise, because I think, in this dish, it works particularly well.

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Do you know what this proves to me, actually, just watching you?

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That men can multi-skill after all.

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-We can, yeah.

-Oh!

-We can. We are selective about it, but we can.

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LAUGHTER

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I can go to the loo AND read Autocar.

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LAUGHTER

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Right, so in we go with the rapeseed oil, but rapeseed oil

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-makes great mayonnaise.

-It does.

-Also great dressings as well?

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Yeah, it has a very, very high flashpoint,

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so it's good for roasting, cos it's 230 degrees, I think,

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it goes to before it starts to break down and the other thing

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that's good is it's high in omega-3s and omega-6s and omega-9s.

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-Don't ask me what they do.

-Nor me.

-But it sounds good.

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-Impressed!

-Apparently, that's good for you.

-I think so.

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-Hopefully, it tastes good too.

-Yeah. They're all different, though.

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-They are.

-You get asparagus-y ones, then the kind of rich nutty ones.

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That's a rich nutty one.

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-So...

-I've got that, I'll just take my toast.

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What I'm doing is just arranging the thinly sliced haddock

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on a really nice piece of slate,

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-I don't know where that came from, but it's lovely.

-Scotland, no doubt.

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An arty and quite Scottish one. Quick dressing, if you wouldn't mind.

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-A little bit...

-Quick dressing! Might as well just do this dish myself!

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-You know what I mean?!

-This is the payback!

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-Peppercorn...

-For the amount of abuse I get when I come on this show.

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They will give me some grief today, by the way,

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I've had mouth surgery, so if I start dribbling during the show,

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it's not because I've had anything to drink, it's that...

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-Oh, that old story?

-Genuinely!

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You've actually got a bit of cow bone in your jaw now, haven't you?

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I have. It's quite a big bit of cow bone, thank you very much!

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So if I start chewing like some Jersey cow...but anyway!

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Did you really need to have those sort of cheekbones improved?

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-That's...

-LAUGHTER

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It wasn't cosmetic, Gloria, trust me!

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-LAUGHTER CONTINUES

-OK...

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Monday, I looked like a hamster, but anyway, right...

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-I think you've recovered well.

-Yeah, thanks very much!

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-So...

-Apart from the dribbling!

-Thank you!

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-So, I thought I'd get that in before you started on me.

-Yeah.

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So, lime, this is for almost like the dressing, but it's a marinade

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-that, particularly with ceviche, is what it's all about.

-Yeah.

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-Cos...

-The acidity.

-..lime and olive oil, that's the secret.

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-And the dill and the peppercorns...

-Yeah.

-..for flavour.

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-Pink peppercorns in there.

-So a little bit of lemon juice in here

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and a tiny bit of creme fraiche, just to soften this up as well.

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As well as doing that, you appear on Friday nights in Scotland?

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-Friday nights on Landward, just finished...

-Right?

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It used to be called Landward with Nick Nairn, cos I was anchor.

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I did it for two years, but now, I'm a kind of roving presenter on it.

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Um, but I've done a really interesting series

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-about the Scottish fishing industry.

-Right.

-And just amazing!

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The industry's really recovered, there are fantastic stocks,

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the quality's amazing, but you know where it's all ending up?

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Overseas! We're exporting!

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-We export too much still?

-Far too much stuff, yeah!

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Um, so what do I need in here? That's it.

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-You were mentioning something about hake, weren't you, as well?

-Yeah.

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-Beautiful hake. I mean, 24 hours out the water hake, spanking fresh.

-Yeah.

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-Boxes! I mean, thousands of boxes of it.

-Yeah.

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50 pence a kilo! 50 pence!

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-And it goes to Spain mainly?

-Goes to Spain, yeah.

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-That's on the lunch menu next week.

-THEY LAUGH

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What percentage...what percentage of fish actually is exported?

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When you say it's awful that it all goes abroad?

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-Well, I would think, from Peterhead Market, maybe 65%?

-Really?!

-Yeah.

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-They always used to say...

-Of the langoustine, 95% goes overseas.

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-Good grief!

-45,000 tonnes landed last year.

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-A couple of thousand tonnes retained in the UK.

-We cook it a lot on here.

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-Do you want crab in that mixture?

-NICK LAUGHS: Oh, yeah!

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"That doesn't really taste of crab!" LAUGHTER

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-That's cos it's still in here.

-Yeah, exactly!

-Ever the pro!

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-LAUGHTER

-You'll get used to it.

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-What can I say?! It's cooking and talking at the same time.

-Yeah.

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-There you go. Now it's got the crab in.

-Wow!

-Look at that.

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-That's better.

-A little bit of the microgreens on top.

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Oh, it's collapsed! We'll cover it up with microgreens.

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And just a little bit of this marinade over the top.

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The marinade should go on at the last minute. If it stays on

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more than three or four minutes, it starts to toughen up the fish,

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so just at the last minute, keep it really nice and fresh.

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Some of those microgreens to cover up the shame

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-of the collapsing salad.

-Yeah.

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-Oh!

-Want a little cheffy drizzle?

-The weight of that salad!

-Oh!

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-No, but with your lovely toast that you made.

-Yeah.

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Just that ciabatta, thinly sliced, olive oil, through the oven

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and that provides the crunch.

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You see, that's the kind of salad I like. It's very soft and really

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-just falling apart.

-So remind us what that salad is again?

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-That's a lovely salad of crab...

-Yeah.

-..apple and celeriac,

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with a ceviche of smoked haddock and some crispy toast.

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-All done in 6½ minutes.

-6½ minutes!

-Yay! Very good!

-Mmm.

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I'll tell you what, it looks delicious,

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even though it has collapsed a little bit.

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-Just bring it to me!

-Bring it to you? Here you go.

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It's your idea of heaven already!

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-We haven't starved ourselves for nothing all morning!

-I know!

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If you pressed it down in the middle, it will be really compacted and hard.

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Are you going to join in, Louise? Yeah?

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-Dive into that and tell us what you think.

-Oh, my goodness!

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-Mmm!

-If you try...

-Try some of the ceviche.

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-The ceviche as well as the, er...

-Just take a knife and cut that

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and tell us what you think of that. But other fish you can do.

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-They do smoked halibut like that as well?

-That would work really well.

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But as you say, the proper smoked haddock, cos so many times,

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-people buy the...

-The dyed stuff?

-The dyed stuff.

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-Which is horrible sort of commercial chemical...

-Taste that.

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-In your own time(!)

-Orgasmic!

-LAUGHTER

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He gets a round of applause for making a dish that doesn't

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involve any cooking! Typical! I never get that, you see.

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Coming up, I make a summery tomato soup for Dick Strawbridge

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made with some tomatoes from my very own garden,

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after Rick Stein visits God's own country.

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Where else but Yorkshire?

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-RICK STEIN:

-I've been coming to the Yorkshire Dales

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since my children were tiny and, if anywhere in the country made one

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feel more full of anticipation for great local food, I'd be surprised.

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I'm on my way to Leyburn.

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I'm hoping for some of the best local food anywhere!

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I imagined about 100 people at this food festival,

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but in fact, there's thousands! This is the third day of it

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and there's just an enormous queue out there. I mean, ten years ago,

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the idea of people paying to come in here for food, local food?

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Well, it just would never happen.

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But to me, it's a real sign of how people's interest

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all around the country is growing in local food.

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And long may it continue.

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-You see, they weren't educated, were they?

-Well, I know what it is!

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-Do you?

-It must be a curd cheesecake.

-No, it isn't!

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-He knows all about fish, you see, so...

-What is it?

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-It isn't a cheese at all!

-Yeah, but it's made

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-with separated milk, isn't it?

-Yeah. You know when...the first milking?

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-Curds and whey?

-Oh, good, you know that bit!

-Yeah.

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-Well, a lot of people don't, but it's the curd.

-Yeah.

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-And then, you've got the eggs and the...

-Yeah, proper cheesecake,

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-not that sort of American stuff, all sweet...

-No.

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It's sensational. It's got lots of currants in it.

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Um, it's got a slightly cheesy flavour.

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It's really good!

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'Yorkshire people certainly know how to put you in your place.

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'Anyway, into a bowl for the curd tart, sugar and butter,

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'cream together with a wooden spoon, then add some eggs

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'and then some breadcrumbs, just to thicken it a little

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'and, as it's Yorkshire, to make your money go further!

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'A few rasps of nutmeg and, finally, a good handful of currants.

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'I think it's the currants and the nutmeg

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'that makes the tart so special.'

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And now, the curds.

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Well, Irene was saying at that food festival at Leyburn

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that using curds from cheesemaking is so important.

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But you're not going to be able to get hold of pure curds,

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and cottage cheese is so similar that that's what I'm using.

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'Well, I've just baked a pastry case blind.

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'You know, with grease-proof paper and beans to keep the sides up.'

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So that goes in the oven for about 20 minutes.

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Now, I have to say, it's the first time

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I ever tasted curd cheese tart at the Leyburn Food Festival,

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but also, it's the first time I've ever cooked it,

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so, fingers crossed.

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'Well, it looks all right to me,

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'but I'm sure Irene would find something to say about it.

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'Apparently, the tart goes way back to the 13th century

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'and it was popular all over the country,

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'and traditionally served at Whitsun and Christmas.

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'But now, it's only to be found in Yorkshire.'

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Well, I've just come out of the festival

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and it's very heartening, because most of the producers in there

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are united in a real belief in what they're doing.

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Sadly, there's one or two people

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that are clearly just buying the produce in the local wholesalers,

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putting a country stamp on it

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and flogging it as if it's farmhouse produce.

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But I think the public have got a nose for that sort of thing.

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I think they can sniff out the impostors!

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And that's really important for the future of festivals like this

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and farmers' markets.

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'Farmers' markets are still in their infancy, but already,

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'they're a lifeline to many small producers.

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'About three years ago,

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'Katrina Palmer and her partner Steve took over

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'a lovely 200-year-old walled garden near Richmond in North Yorkshire.

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'The garden had stood derelict for years

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'until they took charge of it and began growing organic vegetables.

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'And what a perfect haven for Chalky!

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'It was just like being in Mr McGregor's garden.'

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-How fertile is the soil, then? It looks very fertile.

-It's fantastic.

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No problem with it. It just grows and grows stuff. It's fantastic.

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When it's in full production, you can see how green and healthy it is.

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-What was it like when you first got here?

-It was completely overgrown.

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I mean, it had been derelict for almost ten years.

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So you can imagine the amount of weeds that were in here.

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But it's a bit of responsibility as well.

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You sort of feel a bit overwhelmed sometimes, but it's fantastic

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when you're picking something and taking it to the market

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and when you get the people saying, "That tastes fantastic,"

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that's the best thing, and they come back again and again.

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Do the people around here remember it like it used to be, then?

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Yeah, they did, we had an open day last summer

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-and the first lady that walked through the gates...

-Yeah.

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..was someone who used to live in the house, and her father

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had planted the orchard, like, 50 years ago, so she came, and we often

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get comments from people who say they remember it from a long time ago.

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Do you think people more understand about pulling stuff

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-straight out off the ground?

-Definitely. So often,

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at the markets, people say, "Oh, look, dirty carrots!"

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They go, "Oh, that's just like my grandma used to have,"

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or something like that, cos that's what they associate it with,

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with it being old-fashioned, good-quality vegetables.

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'I don't know whether it was the loveliness of that garden,

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'but those organic leeks tasted hotter

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'and more peppery than any leeks I'd ever tasted before.

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'Katrina and Steve turn them into leek broth.

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'They simmer carrots and onions and vegetable stock together,

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'then they add lots of leeks and parsley

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'and whizz it all up and put it in jars.'

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But the thing that, actually, that really we were enjoying that day

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was that it was full of rabbits! It was like Mr McGregor's garden

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in Beatrix Potter and Chalky was just going mad, you know,

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and he finally cornered a rabbit

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in the greenhouse, but I suppose he might be getting a bit old,

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but the rabbit just hopped out

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while he was looking the other way and he got away, thank goodness!

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Well, Katrina and Steve make 12 litres of their leek broth

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every week and sell it at the local farmers' market,

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but if you're asking me for a really special vegetable soup

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to celebrate that walled garden, it would have to be soupe au pistou.

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That comes from Nice and it's got lots and lots of vegetables,

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all very small and cut up,

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so it looks really attractive, but the really important thing

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is pistou, which you stir into the soup right at the end,

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and it gives it a really vibrant flavour of basil.

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But first, I need to cook some soaked haricot beans.

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So I put them in the saucepan, with plenty of water,

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and a large bouquet garni and some garlic

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and that needs to be cooked for about 30 minutes.

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Now, I'm just going to sweat off some vegetables with some olive oil.

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Um, and the reason for doing that is just to bring out the flavour a bit,

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make them a bit sweet, just gives the soup an extra dimension.

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So first of all some onion.

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And then, some leek. And finally, some carrots.

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So just sweat those off for about four or five minutes.

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And now to add the rest of them. First of all, some green beans.

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And next, some potatoes,

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which I've cut up into quite a neat little dice.

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Next, some courgettes. They're going in

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at the same time as the potato, but it doesn't matter,

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cos all the vegetables are slightly overcooked in the soup.

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And next, I've got quite a lot of tomato,

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which I've peeled and de-seeded and chopped up.

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Now, my haricot beans. I'm adding the cooking liquor from the beans,

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cos there's lots of flavour in there.

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Just pour those in, but I just keep back the bouquet garni.

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'Well, the final ingredients to go in there are just some garden peas.

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'They go in last, cos they take the minimum time to cook.

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'And then some pasta, and I just break up spaghetti,

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'so there's little pieces in the soup.'

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Now for the pistou. First of all, some tomato.

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And quite a lot of garlic.

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And some Parmesan.

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Now, you can see there's a lot of similarity

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between pistou and the Genoese pesto. The only difference being

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that, um, pesto has pine nuts and pistou doesn't.

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So just put all that basil in there. Don't even worry about the stalks.

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So we're ready to go.

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'And this is an occasion to use the very best olive oil,

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'extra virgin, of course.

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'I always think basil tastes much better raw than cooked.'

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Oh, that's heavenly! Really lovely!

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Oh, we now add that into the soup.

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And without this, it would just be minestrone,

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but, with this, it's soupe au pistou.

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Well, I have to say, as a way of summing up

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all those vegetables in that great garden, this cannot be beaten.

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And if you never make any other dish in this whole series,

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you've got to make this one.

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As always, great stuff from Rick. And it's a fantastic time of year

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for soups, with different varieties of vegetables in the garden.

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-I'm sure you've got a few?

-A lot!

-Masses! And I have got a lot.

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This is a lot of stuff from my garden.

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These are from my garden, tomatoes here, and a vast selection as well.

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We've got sungella, gardener's delight, sweet millions,

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moneymakers, little plum romas there, all different types.

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I thought I'd do a really quick soup, like a four-minute soup.

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-Really quick.

-Right, sharpish.

-So I better get on.

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-You want to have a taste of a couple of these.

-Absolutely.

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So we're going to use a variety of different ones, really,

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-up to you which ones.

-Oh, they're good!

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But we use a little bit of cherry as well. These little moneymaker ones.

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-You can't buy tomatoes that taste like that, can you?

-I don't think so.

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To me, there's nothing better than going to the greenhouse

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and getting fresh tomatoes and that sort of stuff.

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-The flavour's just second to none.

-Yeah.

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And they're so simple to grow, aren't they? That's the key to them.

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So, literally, straight in a pan like that.

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We're going to fry these off and roast those,

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-as a little garnish to go with my soup.

-Right.

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A very hot pan, that's what we need for soup,

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and we just cut the tomatoes straight in half...

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..and throw them straight in a pan with some olive oil.

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-So there's no onion going in here whatsoever.

-Just tomatoes.

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I'm going to put a little bit of garlic in there.

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And that's about it, really.

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There you go. They go straight in.

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I don't know what the boys think over there, but I am a great lover

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of soups, but also, people always make the assumption that soup

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should just be a load of vegetables thrown in a pan and boiled.

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It has to boil for a certain amount of time.

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It's very important that you don't just put loads of stuff in a pan

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and just boil it.

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Everything starts to deteriorate.

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You know, you wouldn't boil, er,

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cauliflower and broccoli for 30 minutes,

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so why would you do it in a soup?

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But some people do. You may as well drink the liquid

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-and throw away the...

-Exactly!

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-Exactly.

-All the flavour is in the liquid.

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-It's amazing.

-So a little garlic in there. I'll just start that.

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And a touch of tomato puree, just for colour, that's all you'll do.

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With soups in the summer,

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do you find it harder to sort of sell it to people as an idea?

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I think, well, if you see the speed at which this thing cooks,

0:21:570:22:01

you know, a very hot pan, you almost get this char-ness

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on the, er, tomatoes, then people will actually give it a go, I think.

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-The idea is, make things as simple as possible.

-Yeah.

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In we go with that, a little bit of chicken stock.

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You can use, of course, vegetable stock if you wanted.

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A little bit of chicken stock, brought to the boil.

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And we'll just mash these down. That's all we're going to do

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with these ones. It doesn't take very long.

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Take about sort of two minutes, that's it.

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-You're not joking, this is quick, isn't it?

-Exactly, very, very quick!

0:22:280:22:32

When you started, I remember first watching you on TV,

0:22:320:22:34

it was Scrapheap Challenge?

0:22:340:22:36

Yeah, I was still serving in the Army at the time.

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I went along for the very first series ever, that was back in '98.

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It was a fantastic show. I think it is a fantastic show.

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It's kind of like, you go around this...

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You kind of make a hovercraft out of a supermarket trolley

0:22:460:22:49

-and a dishwasher?

-And it is that ridiculous, isn't it?

-Yeah!

0:22:490:22:52

But I think the British love it,

0:22:520:22:54

-because it's that sort of garden-shed invention.

-Yeah.

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And the ideas people come up with, you're never sure what'll happen,

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and somehow, it always gets pulled off.

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Because it is only a day building.

0:23:020:23:04

People ask "Do you get more than a day?"

0:23:040:23:06

-No, it's a day building.

-Were you into this because of...

0:23:060:23:08

When you were a kid, you used to take things apart

0:23:080:23:10

-and put them back together?

-I used to take things apart.

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Putting them back together was never my strong suit.

0:23:130:23:15

-A load of bits left over?

-We've still got them back where my mum is.

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There's sort of a garage full of bits that I've got left over.

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They'll be very useful one day, you don't want to throw it away.

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But I think if you're prepared to experiment, then you learn.

0:23:230:23:26

I suppose being an engineer in the Army helped,

0:23:260:23:28

particularly doing stuff like that.

0:23:280:23:30

Spur of the moment, think on your feet kind of stuff.

0:23:300:23:32

The beauty about being in the Army, you are used

0:23:320:23:34

to getting things done on time.

0:23:340:23:36

It's too easy for your day to disappear.

0:23:360:23:37

Four minutes, you can have a soup done,

0:23:370:23:39

cos you're focused on getting it done.

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The Army says, "No good you turning up to the war two days late."

0:23:410:23:44

It's that sort of a mindset. So you have to get things done properly.

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Yeah. And that led you on from there

0:23:470:23:50

to producing your own stuff on this farm.

0:23:500:23:53

What I mean by that is you actually make your own...

0:23:530:23:57

power and stuff like that.

0:23:570:23:59

It's this incredible system that you've got down there.

0:23:590:24:02

I've been reading this new book that you've got.

0:24:020:24:04

You've got your own ovens that you build, and smokeries.

0:24:040:24:08

It's amazing, because we have been doing it for a long time now.

0:24:080:24:11

The whole idea of being self-sufficient.

0:24:110:24:13

You can't do it all the time, we're not completely self-sufficient.

0:24:130:24:16

But why not make your own electricity?

0:24:160:24:18

I don't like paying electricity bills.

0:24:180:24:19

But understanding it is the difficult part.

0:24:190:24:22

When we wrote the book, it was all about explaining to people

0:24:220:24:24

so they could actually get their

0:24:240:24:26

head around what has to be done.

0:24:260:24:27

And it's a matter of having a go.

0:24:270:24:29

I hear excuses, but no real good reasons not to do it.

0:24:290:24:31

You don't need a smallholding.

0:24:310:24:33

I'd kind of love to have a go,

0:24:330:24:34

but I am not very good with technology.

0:24:340:24:36

While we were away

0:24:360:24:37

on our five weeks' break,

0:24:370:24:39

the only bit of technology

0:24:390:24:41

that I bought was an iPod.

0:24:410:24:43

And I went in the shop and they said,

0:24:430:24:44

"How many songs have you got?"

0:24:440:24:46

They've got 16,000, 20,000, 50,000, all that sort of stuff.

0:24:460:24:49

I've got eight.

0:24:490:24:51

LAUGHTER

0:24:510:24:52

Keep wiping them off. I'm not good with technology.

0:24:520:24:54

But the fascinating thing about the book is,

0:24:540:24:56

it's almost going back to how it was before, isn't it?

0:24:560:24:58

Although you've got modern things in there...

0:24:580:25:01

When we were writing it, I was doing MasterChef at the time.

0:25:010:25:03

And James, my son, who co-wrote it with me,

0:25:030:25:06

he ended up putting a lot of it on paper.

0:25:060:25:07

And the technology has to be understandable.

0:25:070:25:10

You have to get your head around it.

0:25:100:25:11

There's such a breadth of knowledge we've picked up over the years.

0:25:110:25:14

Cos this isn't new to us.

0:25:140:25:16

As a family, we have been growing our own food, doing our own cooking

0:25:160:25:19

and thoroughly enjoying it for years.

0:25:190:25:20

I have to say, I did stop at the old toilet that you've got there.

0:25:200:25:24

It's a lovely place to go to read the paper.

0:25:240:25:27

LAUGHTER

0:25:270:25:28

I like the idea...

0:25:280:25:29

You've got to put a handful of sawdust in afterwards

0:25:290:25:32

-and close the lid quickly.

-Yeah.

0:25:320:25:35

LAUGHTER

0:25:350:25:36

There was one instance when one chap was using it.

0:25:360:25:38

If you don't close the lid, you don't know what'll go in there. He was sitting down.

0:25:380:25:42

A compost toilet. Sat down, and a bird flew up between his legs.

0:25:420:25:45

LAUGHTER

0:25:450:25:46

Steve's only comment at the time was he was really glad

0:25:460:25:49

he was sitting on the toilet.

0:25:490:25:50

So, yeah, it is good to stop things going in there.

0:25:500:25:53

Brilliant.

0:25:530:25:55

And this farm itself, you are going to open it to the public?

0:25:550:25:58

-This is...brave!

-No, we've been running courses there.

0:25:580:26:01

But we are starting to do a bit more catering.

0:26:010:26:04

Well, we've got a love of food down at our end.

0:26:040:26:07

The idea of sharing it with people...

0:26:070:26:08

When people come on our course over the past five years,

0:26:080:26:11

we feed them anyway.

0:26:110:26:12

-Now I think they're expecting more.

-Well, I think so!

0:26:120:26:15

Because of your experiences from MasterChef, as well.

0:26:150:26:17

-Well done, by the way.

-Thank you. It was great fun.

0:26:170:26:20

Before that, you were an enthusiastic cook.

0:26:200:26:23

Didn't you used to go and work in restaurants?

0:26:230:26:25

I did MasterChef cos I wanted to have a chance in the kitchen.

0:26:250:26:28

Not the high-pressured job they talk about.

0:26:280:26:29

But since completing filming, which was done in February,

0:26:290:26:32

I actually work as a sous-chef in a local restaurant.

0:26:320:26:35

-Just purely because you get the buzz.

-Because you wanted to?

0:26:350:26:38

Yeah. And I learn more. You know, working in a restaurant.

0:26:380:26:41

And Brett, who owns the restaurant,

0:26:410:26:43

he made me wash the dishes to begin with as a KP,

0:26:430:26:46

but once you learn your way around, it is an awesome experience.

0:26:460:26:48

It is where everybody starts. I started on pot wash.

0:26:480:26:50

I don't know about the guys over there...

0:26:500:26:53

-I'm quite good at washing...

-We all do it.

-Yeah.

0:26:530:26:55

I am quite good at it, as well.

0:26:550:26:57

Well, Danny, you can wash that butter pan that you ruined before.

0:26:570:27:01

I think there's no hope for that.

0:27:010:27:02

-That's in the bin.

-We can recycle it.

0:27:020:27:06

So, you've got a little cream of tomato soup.

0:27:060:27:08

Nice and quick and simple. Just a little bit of sugar

0:27:080:27:10

gone in there, just to flavour the tomatoes, as well.

0:27:100:27:12

I don't know whether the chefs over there put a bit of sugar in?

0:27:120:27:15

Yes, sometimes balsamic vinegar, as well.

0:27:150:27:18

A touch of double cream over the top.

0:27:180:27:19

A little bit of olive oil.

0:27:190:27:21

-It looks summery, doesn't it?

-Well, I think it is.

0:27:210:27:23

You eat with your eyes. But, also, you mentioned that soup at the top,

0:27:230:27:26

if you can cook stuff like this in literally, what,

0:27:260:27:29

five minutes, from start to finish,

0:27:290:27:32

it is actually very simple.

0:27:320:27:34

A little bit of basil on at the end.

0:27:340:27:36

-Wow!

-And there you have it.

-Well done.

0:27:360:27:38

Simple little cream of tomato soup.

0:27:380:27:40

And we've got a little bit of bread to go with it. It's very quick.

0:27:400:27:43

-Fresh basil.

-Fresh tomatoes from the garden.

0:27:430:27:46

It's a huge difference, isn't it?

0:27:460:27:49

-That's good.

-Happy with that?

-Yeah.

0:27:490:27:50

You've got recipes in the book, haven't you?

0:27:500:27:53

Well, it's more kitchencraft.

0:27:530:27:54

We are making bread, making cheese, etc. It's good.

0:27:540:27:57

That's really tasty.

0:27:570:27:58

Growing your own tomatoes is easier than you think.

0:28:030:28:05

If you haven't done it this year, then have a go next year.

0:28:050:28:08

They taste fantastic. If you'd like to try cooking

0:28:080:28:11

any of the studio recipes you've seen on today's show,

0:28:110:28:13

all of those recipes are just a click away

0:28:130:28:16

at bbc.co.uk/recipes

0:28:160:28:17

Now, today, we're looking back at some of the best cooking

0:28:170:28:20

from the Saturday Kitchen recipe book.

0:28:200:28:22

And now it's time to go back to

0:28:220:28:23

an early episode of Saturday Kitchen,

0:28:230:28:25

but do not adjust your set, because Martin Blunos

0:28:250:28:27

really is wearing one of the brightest pink shirts

0:28:270:28:30

you are ever going to see.

0:28:300:28:31

Martin Blunos, I have to say, you are a genius.

0:28:310:28:34

Cos it's simple cooking

0:28:340:28:35

you turn into this just amazing tasting dish.

0:28:350:28:38

Well, I think the thing is that's the way we are trained

0:28:380:28:41

and the way we eat now.

0:28:410:28:42

It is more about flavour and sourcing the right ingredients

0:28:420:28:45

-and good ingredients.

-Great ingredients. What you are going to cook?

0:28:450:28:48

We've got the chicken livers. They are super fresh.

0:28:480:28:50

You can get these from the butcher's.

0:28:500:28:52

Most of them are selling fresh livers now.

0:28:520:28:53

You can buy frozen, but buy fresh.

0:28:530:28:55

They do deteriorate on freezing. They break down.

0:28:550:28:57

The rest of the ingredients, we've got a little bit of butter.

0:28:570:29:00

A little bit of butter. We've got the sherry. And that gives a richness.

0:29:000:29:04

We've got peas, we've got a little bit of English mustard,

0:29:040:29:06

shallots, garlic, nutmeg to flavour,

0:29:060:29:09

the spinach, which goes with it.

0:29:090:29:10

So, it is seared chicken livers with spinach, peas and sherry.

0:29:100:29:13

-Right, first thing...

-What it is, I am going to show you this, actually.

0:29:130:29:16

These are livers that haven't been trimmed.

0:29:160:29:19

That is a trimmed liver.

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So you can see, what I've taken away, or what I will take away,

0:29:210:29:23

is this white bit here.

0:29:230:29:25

This is the sort of fibres and the sinews.

0:29:250:29:27

If you buy them with that already cut out,

0:29:270:29:29

you tend to find that the livers start to break down.

0:29:290:29:31

So buy them fresh and whole. You can trim that off.

0:29:310:29:33

Also, if there is any green on there, that's the bitter part.

0:29:330:29:36

That's the gall sack. So that will really be bitter.

0:29:360:29:38

Take that out as well.

0:29:380:29:39

So I will trim that.

0:29:390:29:40

While I do that, if you could...

0:29:400:29:42

I knew I'd have to do something.

0:29:420:29:44

I've got the shallots and garlic.

0:29:440:29:46

If you can chop those up nice and fine for me.

0:29:460:29:48

-We'll pop those into...

-Diarmuid should be doing this.

0:29:480:29:50

He spent eight weeks in the kitchen, he has got to chop something.

0:29:500:29:54

LAUGHTER

0:29:540:29:56

That is it. If you take this away.

0:29:560:29:57

And there is that little sinew.

0:29:570:29:59

And if you leave the sinew in, it goes tough.

0:29:590:30:01

It's goes chewy, very chewy.

0:30:010:30:03

So trim that away

0:30:030:30:04

and there are all your tubes and pipes there.

0:30:040:30:06

Just get rid of that and you get a lovely, clean a bit of liver.

0:30:060:30:09

What do you think of that, Nicola?

0:30:090:30:10

LAUGHTER

0:30:100:30:12

It is a good job she didn't go out last night!

0:30:120:30:14

I mean, it sounds worse than it is.

0:30:140:30:16

You clean them up, they are really nice.

0:30:160:30:17

They are sweet, they are very good for you.

0:30:170:30:19

I think the secret with this is don't overcook them.

0:30:190:30:22

A lot of people are put off by the bitterness.

0:30:220:30:24

It can get there even if you overcook it.

0:30:240:30:27

That's right, yeah.

0:30:270:30:28

I think they tend to go very grainy and dry, as well.

0:30:280:30:31

So I've seasoned these up

0:30:310:30:33

with a nice bit of salt and pepper.

0:30:330:30:35

Again, season them right at the last moment,

0:30:350:30:37

because the salt will actually cook the flesh,

0:30:370:30:40

because it is very, very delicate.

0:30:400:30:42

So we've put in a bit of oil in here.

0:30:420:30:44

Just ordinary olive oil, nothing fancy, because if you

0:30:440:30:46

put in a good oil, what happens is you burn off all the flavour.

0:30:460:30:50

Take a bit of our butter, just going to pop that in.

0:30:500:30:52

Butter. Now, this accent...

0:30:520:30:54

What is all that about? Because you don't come from Somerset, do you?

0:30:540:30:57

-Your parents are Latvian, aren't they?

-That's right.

0:30:570:30:59

I am second-generation Latvian,

0:30:590:31:01

but I was born in a little place called Peasedown St John,

0:31:010:31:04

just outside Bath. There you go.

0:31:040:31:06

You see, that's just melted down.

0:31:060:31:09

Going to pop that in to fry off.

0:31:090:31:11

The reason I am putting oil and butter is that oil gives us heat,

0:31:110:31:15

butter gives us flavour.

0:31:150:31:17

I'll wash my hands.

0:31:180:31:21

You are obviously from Bath. That's obviously...

0:31:210:31:24

The Lygon Arms is where you achieved your two Michelin Stars?

0:31:240:31:27

No, no. My first restaurant was in Bristol. Myself and my wife,

0:31:270:31:30

we moved out of London, sold our properties,

0:31:300:31:32

bought a restaurant and that was where we got two stars.

0:31:320:31:34

That was back in '88, '89.

0:31:340:31:37

And getting two Michelin Stars...

0:31:370:31:38

most chefs aspire to get just one.

0:31:380:31:40

Then obviously the top accolade is three.

0:31:400:31:43

Two is incredibly difficult to get.

0:31:430:31:45

I think what it was is, we were so worried about losing one,

0:31:450:31:48

that I think you just consolidate.

0:31:480:31:50

LAUGHTER

0:31:500:31:51

You know what I mean? And it's down to consistency.

0:31:510:31:54

So it's how consistent you are.

0:31:540:31:56

Because you can have good days and bad days.

0:31:560:31:58

But if you're paying top dollar for something...

0:31:580:32:00

It's like going to the theatre.

0:32:000:32:02

You pay top money and...

0:32:020:32:03

Consistency is the key.

0:32:030:32:05

Not to have chefs that only last eight weeks in the kitchen...

0:32:050:32:08

LAUGHTER

0:32:080:32:09

-Then what are they going to do? Become a gardener.

-Exactly!

0:32:090:32:12

Precisely. There you go.

0:32:120:32:14

Look at him. He's not done very well, has he?

0:32:140:32:17

Right, I've just fried those off.

0:32:180:32:19

They've got a bit of colour, just turn them.

0:32:190:32:21

If you can chuck those onions and garlic in.

0:32:210:32:23

That bit of shallot and garlic

0:32:230:32:25

isn't going to soften up too much.

0:32:250:32:27

It'll keep a bit of bite and crispiness.

0:32:270:32:29

It's also going to let the flavour into it. OK?

0:32:290:32:31

Now, what I am going to do now is here I have a bit of mustard.

0:32:310:32:34

This is English mustard.

0:32:340:32:35

I find that English mustard has got a nice bit of kick to it.

0:32:350:32:38

Gives a bit more spice to it.

0:32:380:32:40

So we're going to put a bit of that in.

0:32:400:32:42

So, Latvia. What is the traditional dish over there?

0:32:420:32:46

-It's not cabbage, is it?

-No.

0:32:460:32:49

-Beetroots.

-Beetroot, that's the one.

0:32:490:32:51

I knew it was something like that.

0:32:510:32:53

It's Eastern European, and I call it "peasant food".

0:32:530:32:55

But when I say that, my mum gives me a clip round the ear.

0:32:550:32:57

She's like, "I'm not a peasant." I say, I don't mean it that way.

0:32:570:33:00

It's like from your neck of the woods, it's great, wholesome food.

0:33:000:33:03

Don't call northerners peasants. I tell you what, you'll get lynched.

0:33:030:33:06

LAUGHTER No, but you know what I mean?

0:33:060:33:08

-It's that wholesome, real food, about taste, and that's what it is.

-Home cooking.

0:33:080:33:12

Yeah, that's right.

0:33:120:33:13

Um, and I think classically, I think it was a lot of one-pot cookery.

0:33:130:33:16

-Yes.

-Bung it in a pot, they go off and do their work

0:33:160:33:18

and come home and there's a hearty dish waiting for them.

0:33:180:33:21

-Right.

-The mustard's gone in.

-Yes.

0:33:210:33:23

-Now I'm going to pop the sherry in.

-Yes.

0:33:230:33:25

And this is a real good sweet sherry.

0:33:250:33:26

The reason you use sweet sherry is because

0:33:260:33:28

you want it to reduce down and give you a nice little bit of glaze.

0:33:280:33:32

That's that sweetness from the sherry.

0:33:320:33:34

We're burning off the alcohol, alcohol is horrible, hard and bitter.

0:33:340:33:37

Get rid of that, that will be gone.

0:33:370:33:39

-Flames look a bit like your shirt there.

-What?

0:33:390:33:41

-What are you trying to say?

-I'm not trying to say that.

0:33:410:33:43

You know, obviously your wife dressed you this morning.

0:33:430:33:46

LAUGHTER

0:33:460:33:48

-Real men wear pink.

-No, it's not pink! It's fresh raspberry.

0:33:480:33:52

-That's what your wife told you.

-Yeah. OK.

0:33:520:33:55

Now, I'm going to lift these livers out.

0:33:550:33:57

-OK? Now, they're just coming out of that...

-Pink raspberries.

-Pink raspberries.

0:33:570:34:00

LAUGHTER

0:34:000:34:01

-Mind you, Diarmuid's got it on as well.

-Yeah. That's right. Right.

0:34:010:34:04

-Slight difference in the shirt.

-They're resting now.

0:34:040:34:07

-I've got the juices that are left. I'll pop it into that spinach.

-Yes.

0:34:070:34:10

Now this spinach, we're going to wilt it down, so...

0:34:100:34:12

Just a little bit of baby spinach?

0:34:120:34:14

Little bit of baby spinach, already washed and bagged,

0:34:140:34:16

-and I've got a little bit of water here.

-Yes.

0:34:160:34:18

A bit of water in, and that water's going to turn to steam.

0:34:180:34:21

What happens with that steam is it softens the spinach up much quicker.

0:34:210:34:24

Also, a nice little bit of,

0:34:240:34:26

yeah, if you could pop that lemon in half for me, that would be great.

0:34:260:34:29

Plenty of nutmeg on there,

0:34:290:34:30

because that's a great accompaniment with the spinach and with the liver.

0:34:300:34:35

You're also going to serve, well, you've got potatoes over there.

0:34:350:34:37

-I've got the potatoes. I want you to crush those up for me.

-There you go.

0:34:370:34:41

These are just boiled, boiled and drained,

0:34:410:34:42

crush them with the back of the spoon, bit of salt and pepper and then do a little bed. OK?

0:34:420:34:46

-These are just new potatoes in their skins, yes?

-Yes, in their skins.

-Lovely.

0:34:460:34:50

Boiled in a little bit of saltwater, and then well drained.

0:34:500:34:53

-You see...

-Also you put the peas in, these are just frozen peas, or..?

0:34:530:34:56

They're frozen peas. I mean,

0:34:560:34:57

you can use fresh, but frozen peas are produced and packed,

0:34:570:35:01

um, pretty much within, I think is it six hours, or four hours?

0:35:010:35:04

Less than that, mate. I used to be brought up on a farm,

0:35:040:35:06

they used to come and take our peas on the night and by sort of...

0:35:060:35:09

used to start picking them about two o'clock in the morning.

0:35:090:35:12

By six o'clock, they'd all gone.

0:35:120:35:14

-Really?

-Yes, all done, in a bag.

-Yes.

-Frozen on the field.

0:35:140:35:16

You can't really get fresher, if you think about it,

0:35:160:35:19

because, um, you know...

0:35:190:35:21

He can, he can go out in his garden and pick them.

0:35:210:35:23

LAUGHTER That's the only other fresher way,

0:35:230:35:25

but no, if you buy peas in a pod, and they've travelled,

0:35:250:35:28

-say from Spain, or halfway around the country...

-Yes.

0:35:280:35:31

..they start breaking down.

0:35:310:35:32

They lose their colour and they lose that, the sugars go to starch,

0:35:320:35:35

and they're just not, not as superb as when you pick them super fresh.

0:35:350:35:38

We've had a problem with peas and broad beans,

0:35:380:35:40

-stuff like that, particularly in the UK because of the weather.

-Yes.

0:35:400:35:43

There's been a shortage of peas...

0:35:430:35:45

They need quite a lot of water, don't they?

0:35:450:35:47

Everything is suffering. It's an incredible year in the garden,

0:35:470:35:49

but it makes us more aware so we have to take precautions, save water

0:35:490:35:52

and make the most of the water that we just pour down the drain or lose.

0:35:520:35:56

-So we have had a big problem.

-Yes.

0:35:560:35:57

With trees, shrubs and vegetables, the most important.

0:35:570:36:00

-There you go, if you have a bath...

-What?

0:36:000:36:02

Keep the water, chuck it on your peas, there you go.

0:36:020:36:04

Right. Lovely, right. LAUGHTER

0:36:040:36:06

Everything is wilted down, everything is back here,

0:36:060:36:09

finish with a bit of lemon juice,

0:36:090:36:10

that's going to be our sharpness, our bit of acid.

0:36:100:36:13

I've popped those in a little nest. Salt, pepper and crushed potatoes in there. No butter, nothing.

0:36:130:36:17

No, that's it, lovely. There we go.

0:36:170:36:19

And we're just going to lift out some more of this here.

0:36:190:36:22

And it's nice and sort of rustic,

0:36:240:36:25

but you've got plenty of flavour. We'll get more of these peas to

0:36:250:36:28

run down the side with those lovely juices.

0:36:280:36:30

I love how chefs say, once they've piled it up and it drops off the pile,

0:36:300:36:33

"I'll just do that nice and rustic now."

0:36:330:36:35

That burnt thing that happens is "caramelised", isn't it?

0:36:350:36:38

-Remind us what that is again.

-You've got seared chicken livers, with spinach, peas and sherry.

0:36:380:36:42

Looks great.

0:36:420:36:43

Right, but the real true test is in the tasting. So, Diarmuid...

0:36:470:36:52

-Very good.

-Are you a fan of chicken livers?

-Absolutely, yes.

-Are you sure?

0:36:520:36:55

LAUGHTER

0:36:550:36:56

-That was said with feeling.

-As he dives in the potatoes, there you go.

0:36:560:36:59

Chicken livers at ten o'clock in the morning.

0:36:590:37:02

Mmm. Ah, they're so...

0:37:020:37:05

-Nice and soft?

-Yes.

-It's that slow-cooking that does it.

0:37:050:37:07

Pass it down. I think, Nicola will just then pass it further down...

0:37:070:37:10

LAUGHTER

0:37:100:37:12

-Yes.

-No, she's going to be brave.

-I'm going to try, I'm going to try.

0:37:120:37:15

-Go for it.

-Well done.

0:37:150:37:17

-It might alter your views.

-Mmm.

-There you go, look at that.

-Mmm.

0:37:170:37:21

-That was natural.

-Nice.

0:37:210:37:22

The only thing about liver is it makes my mouth all dry,

0:37:220:37:25

that's why I don't like it.

0:37:250:37:26

I think that's because you can overcook it as well, it makes it go bitter.

0:37:260:37:29

-Yes.

-I think that's going to be the main reason for it.

-Mmm. Mmm.

0:37:290:37:34

-Mmm.

-The type of thing that you try?

-Mmm, definitely.

0:37:340:37:36

Because you're not, not a big fan of inside the kitchen, are you?

0:37:360:37:39

-The wife does most of the cooking, but...

-And I tend to, as KP duty...

0:37:390:37:42

-LAUGHTER

-Exactly.

0:37:420:37:44

Don't forget, if your cheffy stack topples, it's rustic, of course.

0:37:480:37:52

It's Keith Floyd time now, and this week, he's in the USA,

0:37:520:37:55

but not for all the glitz and glamour. He starts his journey

0:37:550:37:58

in the Louisiana swamps.

0:37:580:38:00

HELICOPTER BLADE WHIRRING

0:38:000:38:02

EERIE MUSIC

0:38:020:38:03

SLOW GUITAR INSTRUMENTAL

0:38:160:38:18

WHISPERING VOICE: Sha, sha...

0:38:210:38:24

INSTRUMENTAL CONTINUES

0:38:240:38:26

The Bayou, Louisiana,

0:38:410:38:43

is the gastronomic heartland of the southern states,

0:38:430:38:46

home of crawfish and philly gumbo,

0:38:460:38:48

and lots of other dishes immortalised in rock'n'roll songs.

0:38:480:38:51

Amongst these stunted trees,

0:38:510:38:53

coincidently destroyed by Hurricane Floyd - no relation, of course -

0:38:530:38:57

you can feel the spirit of General Jackson,

0:38:570:38:59

who beat the living daylights out of the Brits

0:38:590:39:01

at the Battle of New Orleans in 1815.

0:39:010:39:04

ENGINE WHIRRING

0:39:080:39:10

That curious machine is a mud bug harvester.

0:39:120:39:14

Mud bugs are what the locals call crawfish,

0:39:140:39:16

an aggressive lobster-like crustacean that lives in the same swamps

0:39:160:39:20

that produce the wild rice they ultimately meet on a plate.

0:39:200:39:23

This symbol of Louisiana cuisine

0:39:230:39:25

is farmed in vast quantities here in the Mississippi Delta,

0:39:250:39:28

and those not eaten by these winged predators,

0:39:280:39:31

I'm sorry, I don't know what they're called, end up in pots with Cajun spices and garlic,

0:39:310:39:35

spreading the gastronomic spirit of Louisiana right across the states,

0:39:350:39:38

as my Cajun chum explained so succinctly.

0:39:380:39:40

GUNSHOTS

0:39:400:39:42

-That'll keep them away...

-By the way, he was only scaring those birds,

0:39:440:39:47

although he does eat the occasional one.

0:39:470:39:49

Anyway, onto cooking sketch number one,

0:39:490:39:51

with a guy who irritated the hell out of me,

0:39:510:39:53

but he cooks a great jambalaya, so he can't be all bad.

0:39:530:39:56

I've got trouble on my hands here. This is Chris,

0:39:560:39:58

he knows everything about Cajun cooking

0:39:580:40:01

and he's going to teach me how to make a jambalaya, the classic dish of this Louisiana swamp region.

0:40:010:40:05

What are all these ingredients here?

0:40:050:40:07

Before we get started with ingredients, I'll tell you something,

0:40:070:40:09

one thing about a man making jambalaya in South Louisiana,

0:40:090:40:12

it's an important part of our diet,

0:40:120:40:14

and I want to tell you something before you go too far.

0:40:140:40:16

Told you I was going to have trouble with this guy.

0:40:160:40:18

If you mess up, I've got something to hammer you.

0:40:180:40:20

-FLOYD LAUGHS

-Is that fair enough?

-That's fair enough.

0:40:200:40:23

If you mess up my jambalaya for the people sitting out here,

0:40:230:40:25

we are going to settle the odds up.

0:40:250:40:27

That's all I wanted you to know. Right now,

0:40:270:40:29

we'll keep that down in the background.

0:40:290:40:31

Now we start talking about ingredients.

0:40:310:40:33

-Let's talk about what we put in the pie. Remember what I dropped here?

-Right.

0:40:330:40:36

-You thought that was lard, didn't you?

-I did.

-That's alligator fat.

0:40:360:40:39

That's all, not much more than that, but really it was lard

0:40:390:40:42

and I'm going to tell you why. Lard is a coarse fat,

0:40:420:40:45

-good, good flavour. Can you hear that pot sizzling?

-Yes.

0:40:450:40:48

-It's time to drop that sausage in it, Floyd.

-All of it?

0:40:480:40:51

All of it, I'll give you the spoon from here on out,

0:40:510:40:53

you can do all the work you want to do. How's that? Huh?

0:40:530:40:56

God, this is good. I'll be eating a meal here today somebody else cooked for a change.

0:40:560:41:00

How long do we cook this in here for, then?

0:41:000:41:02

What we're going to do, we're going to cook this down

0:41:020:41:04

until we get some of the oils out of the sausage.

0:41:040:41:07

All we're trying to do...

0:41:070:41:08

-This is hot sausage. You like hot sausage?

-I do.

0:41:080:41:10

Good. This flavour of this sausage is going to carry this jambalaya.

0:41:100:41:14

That's the flavour that's going to carry it. So be careful with that.

0:41:140:41:18

Don't break 'em all up, just hit 'em a little bit lightly.

0:41:180:41:21

Don't just stir them. There ya go! Let it saute for a few minutes.

0:41:210:41:25

All we're looking for is to get some of the oils out of the sausage.

0:41:250:41:28

Getting the oils out lubricates something you know nothing about.

0:41:280:41:31

-While that's happening there, what's in there?

-You really want to know?

0:41:310:41:34

-I really want to know.

-Mississippi river water.

0:41:340:41:37

-Mississippi river water?

-Yeah! We get good chemicals come down our river.

0:41:370:41:41

-Yeah!

-This has very good flavour in it. That's all that is.

0:41:410:41:45

Is that a good shot?

0:41:450:41:46

I'm tellin' ya. Look. Let me tell you what I really have here.

0:41:460:41:49

Chicken stock and a little kitchen bouquet.

0:41:490:41:52

-Kitchen bouquet.

-You're familiar with kitchen bouquet.

0:41:520:41:54

-That's a bouquet garni. OK.

-That's exactly right.

0:41:540:41:58

It'll give you a good colour and a great flavour.

0:41:580:42:01

-We're going to add a little trinity here.

-Trinity?

0:42:010:42:04

-You know what trinity is.

-Well, I can see it now, yeah.

0:42:040:42:06

-OK, what is trinity?

-It's green peppers, celery and onions.

0:42:060:42:10

That's all that it is. That's exactly right.

0:42:100:42:12

This is a basic seasoning group we use in South Louisiana.

0:42:120:42:15

Whether we're making a jambalaya, whether we're making a gumbo

0:42:150:42:18

or Creole, this is a basic seasoning group that we use.

0:42:180:42:21

-Right.

-We're just going to add this to the pot.

-Right.

0:42:210:42:23

I tell you what else you can add to this dish right now.

0:42:230:42:25

-You can put a little bit of chicken in there if you'd like.

-Already?

0:42:250:42:29

Yeah! Go ahead, drop it in. Heat it up real good.

0:42:290:42:31

Does that look like chicken to you?

0:42:310:42:33

Well, I don't trust you any more, Chris.

0:42:330:42:35

What do you mean, you don't trust me? Would I lie to you?

0:42:350:42:38

I think you might!

0:42:380:42:40

Let me show you.

0:42:400:42:43

This is what we had the back part of.

0:42:430:42:46

-That's a little bit we had left in the freezer.

-That's a big chicken.

0:42:460:42:49

That's a big chicken. How you like the looks of this baby, huh?

0:42:490:42:53

-Do you think you can open him up? Go right ahead, huh?

-Oh, my Lord.

0:42:530:42:56

CHRIS LAUGHS

0:42:560:42:58

Floyd, I would not put alligator meat in this pot.

0:42:580:43:01

-You know why?

-Why?

-Alligator is 6.95 a pound.

-Oh, right.

0:43:020:43:07

Pretty expensive.

0:43:070:43:08

-We're using raccoon today.

-Raccoon?

-Yeah. Don't you prefer raccoon?

0:43:080:43:12

Oh, dear! CHRIS LAUGHS

0:43:120:43:14

-Rocky Raccoon!

-Rocky Raccoon!

-Crept out of his room!

0:43:140:43:17

-How is that looking? Pretty good?

-That's looking very good.

-Fantastic!

0:43:170:43:21

-How about dropping a little garlic in there?

-A bit of garlic in there.

0:43:210:43:24

This guy's learning how to cook. He's finally learning real food.

0:43:240:43:28

Real, real food. That's what he is learning now.

0:43:280:43:31

-Hey, this stock's boiling up away here now.

-Yeah.

0:43:310:43:35

-You see how the chicken base has come to the surface?

-Sure.

0:43:350:43:38

-Now it's time to pour it in that pot.

-In this pot.

-Yeah.

0:43:380:43:40

-Now, it's not hot, the handles aren't hot.

-OK.

0:43:400:43:43

Just to recap on this, for a second, if I may, it's lard.

0:43:430:43:46

We fried in the lard this spicy New Orleans sausage,

0:43:460:43:50

then we added the trinity - not the Holy Trinity but the trinity! -

0:43:500:43:53

of celery, peppers and onions,

0:43:530:43:54

then the chicken or, in this case, the raccoon meat went in.

0:43:540:43:57

We could have used alligator meat, but that's too expensive,

0:43:570:44:00

and now in we go with the stock, OK?

0:44:000:44:02

-You know a Cajun philosophy for making a jambalaya?

-No.

0:44:030:44:06

Do you have any idea?

0:44:060:44:08

If it walks, crawls, swims or flies and you can catch it,

0:44:080:44:12

you can put it in that pot.

0:44:120:44:13

-How's that, huh?

-Right, what about the rice? When does that go in?

0:44:150:44:18

We have to bring this to a boil.

0:44:180:44:20

-But we need to add a little salt.

-Salt, which is where?

0:44:200:44:22

-Put about two teaspoons of salt in.

-Is this the salt?

-No, no, no.

0:44:220:44:25

Leave that alone. Don't even touch that.

0:44:250:44:27

-This is called Joe's Stuff.

-No, it's salt.

-That's salt?

-Yeah.

0:44:270:44:30

I just use Joe's bottle!

0:44:300:44:32

Well, that's pretty close. I'd put a little bit more in.

0:44:320:44:35

-A little bit more. You're cooking five cups of rice.

-Right, OK.

0:44:350:44:37

-It needs a bit more, then.

-Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. OK.

0:44:370:44:41

-A little stir.

-Get back to the alligators.

-I'd love to get back.

0:44:410:44:47

They eat anything that gets in their way.

0:44:470:44:49

Female alligators that have baby alligators,

0:44:490:44:52

that is probably the meanest creature you ever run across.

0:44:520:44:55

-Worse than the mother-in-law, in fact.

-Well, I don't know.

0:44:550:44:58

My mother-in-law... The first job I ever had was taming alligators.

0:44:580:45:02

You ever tried to tame an alligator?

0:45:020:45:04

I used to have to stand there and run my hand through the mouth

0:45:040:45:08

once I got it open.

0:45:080:45:09

-You know who got me that job? My mother-in-law.

-Yeah.

0:45:090:45:12

-KEITH CHUCKLES

-I realised what was goin' on!

0:45:120:45:15

-I put the rice in?

-Yeah, that's boiling!

0:45:150:45:17

What we're going to do now, we're just going to put the lid on here.

0:45:170:45:20

We're going to lower the fire. Now, lower it real low.

0:45:200:45:23

I am not looking to bring it back to a boil.

0:45:230:45:25

-How we coming here? Let's see what you got here, Floyd.

-Very low.

0:45:260:45:30

Ah, yeah.

0:45:300:45:32

Oh, there you go. All I want is a simmer. That is perfect.

0:45:320:45:35

I tell you what, have you cooked before?

0:45:350:45:38

-No.

-Huh? Well, why do they call you Floyd Of Fish?!

0:45:380:45:41

I'm just curious, that's all!

0:45:420:45:44

OK, what we have to do now, Floyd, we time this for ten minutes.

0:45:440:45:48

-Can you tell time?

-Like, nine cans of that and that's ready?

0:45:480:45:52

No, no, ONE can. This is a quarter- can. I need a whole can of Dixie.

0:45:520:45:56

-Right.

-Yeah. How much did you have left in your...?

0:45:560:45:59

Yeah. By the time you've finished that and I've finished this,

0:45:590:46:02

ten minutes'll be up, and then we're going to turn our jambalaya off.

0:46:020:46:05

At that point, we have to let this thing sit for about 20 minutes.

0:46:050:46:08

-This rice'll cook itself...

-Right.

0:46:080:46:10

-..right in the pot, and that's what's nice about it.

-OK.

0:46:100:46:14

They call New Orleans the Big Easy.

0:46:210:46:24

It's a city that likes to sleep late and party hard.

0:46:240:46:27

Once extremely prosperous, the failing oil and shipping industries

0:46:270:46:30

have left their scars on this most European of American cities.

0:46:300:46:34

It reminds me of a cross between Avignon, Seville and Liverpool.

0:46:340:46:38

The streets rattle to streetcars

0:46:380:46:40

and rock with the jazz that fills the food-scented air in this humid city.

0:46:400:46:43

These flags flying for Mardi Gras - "Fat Tuesday", as you know -

0:46:470:46:50

owe their colours to a British Victorian touring theatre group

0:46:500:46:54

playing Lear - dear, dear Lear - at the local theatre,

0:46:540:46:57

and the organisers of the first carnival borrowed their costumes

0:46:570:47:00

for the carnival king and queen.

0:47:000:47:01

So it's all down to Shakespeare, really.

0:47:010:47:04

"Laissez les bon temps rouler" - "let the good times roll"

0:47:070:47:10

is the motto of this naughty place,

0:47:100:47:11

the home of Tennessee Williams, A Streetcar Named Desire,

0:47:110:47:15

Cat On A Hot Tin Roof, etc, etc.

0:47:150:47:16

I could go on, but I am more into Faulkner,

0:47:160:47:19

another great Southern writer.

0:47:190:47:20

New Orleans is a superstitious city.

0:47:220:47:24

Palm readers, witches, diviners

0:47:240:47:26

and clairvoyants of all kinds

0:47:260:47:28

hang out on the streets in their dubious little studios,

0:47:280:47:30

but with its Indian, French, Spanish and slaving heritage,

0:47:300:47:33

it is not surprising.

0:47:330:47:35

# I love, I love you, baby, and I want you to be my girl

0:47:350:47:38

-# Come on, baby... #

-Along with fortune-telling and music,

0:47:380:47:41

your Big Easy native is never happier than when eating beignets,

0:47:410:47:45

a French-style doughnut, in the Cafe du Monde, the hang-out of

0:47:450:47:48

musicians, artists, tourists and the potpourri of New Orleans demimonde.

0:47:480:47:53

Ah! I hope you like these little jewels of commentary.

0:47:570:48:00

They are quite important, really.

0:48:000:48:02

Anyway, the central grocery store

0:48:020:48:03

at the turn-of-the-century of thereabouts, created

0:48:030:48:06

the famous muffaletta sandwich, presumably by Senor Muffaletta.

0:48:060:48:09

They are slices of salami, ham and Swiss cheese,

0:48:090:48:12

smothered in olive oil and pickle. Do you really like them?

0:48:120:48:15

# Yes, I do!

0:48:150:48:16

# Yes, I do!

0:48:160:48:18

# Yes, I do!

0:48:180:48:21

# And I want you to be my girl! #

0:48:210:48:28

ENGINE STARTS

0:48:280:48:30

I am not keen on being a tourist and wild horses would not drag me

0:48:360:48:40

onto anything called the Creole Queen.

0:48:400:48:42

I should be telling you all about the Mississippi,

0:48:420:48:44

but this isn't a look at life and all I know about it is that

0:48:440:48:47

it is very long, very wide and the Americans like it very much.

0:48:470:48:51

And if it wasn't here, there wouldn't be jazz in the world.

0:48:510:48:53

In the French Quarter,

0:48:560:48:58

you can't move two paces without being tempted to eat something.

0:48:580:49:01

The Creole and Cajun dishes of this place

0:49:010:49:03

make it the Mecca of American cuisine.

0:49:030:49:05

Louisiana is rich in produce of all kinds, a bit like Provence, really.

0:49:050:49:09

And its spicy, tasty,

0:49:090:49:10

uncomplicated dishes are many weary gastronaut's dream.

0:49:100:49:14

Now, take for instance, the oyster po' boy, prepared by my chum,

0:49:170:49:20

Leah Chase. "A po' boy?" I hear you cry.

0:49:200:49:23

People said, "That is for a po' boy,"

0:49:230:49:26

because he doesn't have much money and he has to buy

0:49:260:49:29

something that is a lot of food, and cheap, and can go far.

0:49:290:49:33

And the po' boy was a kind of cheap sandwich, you know.

0:49:330:49:36

That's good. And you want to put just a little pickle on there.

0:49:420:49:46

Give it a little dash here.

0:49:470:49:49

Nobody comes to New Orleans without getting an oyster po' boy.

0:49:490:49:52

They all come here to get it when they are here.

0:49:520:49:54

Sometimes, I have had people right off the plane, right here,

0:49:540:49:57

getting my oyster po' boy.

0:49:570:49:58

And when they are going back, they take the oyster po' boy with them.

0:49:580:50:01

When my daughter was pregnant,

0:50:010:50:03

she is in Los Angeles, "Send me an oyster po' boy."

0:50:030:50:05

What we call an oyster loaf, we put the whole bread, and ship it to her.

0:50:050:50:09

You know, oyster loaf. And people never go home without it.

0:50:090:50:11

They're typical New Orleans.

0:50:110:50:13

You haven't come to New Orleans unless you eat oyster po' boy.

0:50:130:50:16

SIRENS

0:50:160:50:19

Because the BBC could not afford a taxi,

0:50:200:50:23

I flagged down this passing police car

0:50:230:50:25

and later hitched a ride on this fire engine

0:50:250:50:26

to visit one of New Orleans' most famous restaurants -

0:50:260:50:29

K-Paul's Kitchen, run by my new chum, Paul Prudhomme,

0:50:290:50:32

who believes passionately that cooking is not only

0:50:320:50:34

good for the soul, but for the sanity of America.

0:50:340:50:37

Many of our psychiatrists in this country recommend that

0:50:380:50:42

a family that is under stress, both members are working,

0:50:420:50:45

that are under tremendous stress during the week,

0:50:450:50:48

to cook together on weekends.

0:50:480:50:49

Because it is relaxing, it is enriching

0:50:490:50:51

and you can make your life better.

0:50:510:50:54

And there is nothing in the world that you do more than eating.

0:50:540:50:58

You don't change your clothes more often,

0:50:580:51:00

you don't brush your teeth more often.

0:51:000:51:01

You eat more than you do anything else.

0:51:010:51:03

And I think America is finding its eating sphere,

0:51:030:51:07

its eating enjoyment and its eating love.

0:51:070:51:10

And we are at the head of it, because in Louisiana, we have

0:51:100:51:13

been doing that, we have been living that way for the last 100 years.

0:51:130:51:16

So we have this huge amount of different dishes

0:51:160:51:20

that we have to offer America. And the whole world.

0:51:200:51:23

So Cajun and Creole is where it's at.

0:51:230:51:26

There's a time in the programme when I have to try to convince my host, in this case, Paul,

0:51:260:51:30

that I do know a little bit about cooking myself.

0:51:300:51:32

He said OK, if you are so smart,

0:51:320:51:33

just go and make me some smothered Cajun-style okra.

0:51:330:51:36

Just go and do it. So I have.

0:51:360:51:38

I have prepared for myself a sunshine tray of Louisiana food.

0:51:380:51:42

Starting from your left, Clive, we have got onions,

0:51:420:51:45

we have got the lovely mixed bell peppers - red, yellow and green -

0:51:450:51:48

we have got chopped okra, or lady's fingers

0:51:480:51:50

as we call them in England, we have got skinned,

0:51:500:51:53

de-pipped and chopped tomatoes, we have got chicken stock at the back,

0:51:530:51:57

we have got Louisiana sausage here and we have got some butter.

0:51:570:52:01

And swing over the left to the pan,

0:52:010:52:02

and you will see the first stage of my dish going along here.

0:52:020:52:06

Onions, peppers and okra, going ahead there in butter.

0:52:060:52:09

Into that we put some more of this magic Cajun mixture.

0:52:090:52:13

"The pink wonder", as it has come to be known amongst our crew here.

0:52:150:52:19

Stir that around a little bit.

0:52:190:52:20

So this dish starts to absorb the flavours.

0:52:200:52:23

I think I still have to put more butter in that.

0:52:230:52:25

Paul, you can't see him at the moment, but he is in fact watching me

0:52:250:52:28

with an eagle, eagle eye.

0:52:280:52:31

-With great interest.

-So, into that, some tomato.

0:52:310:52:36

Now, what we are going to try and do here is...

0:52:380:52:41

We have got that lot starting to cook

0:52:410:52:44

and we have to relay it all again on top so that the food is going

0:52:440:52:48

to cook in a different sort of textures and flavours. Hopefully.

0:52:480:52:53

So more onions in, more peppers and, and now some more okra in. OK.

0:52:530:52:58

And now, some more of the Cajun magic.

0:52:580:53:01

On top of that. I put in probably a bit too much, doesn't really matter.

0:53:030:53:07

Stir around.

0:53:070:53:08

I'm going to have to employ some magical television stuff, here.

0:53:080:53:12

Because obviously, if I let this cook on camera, it would

0:53:120:53:15

last for about 35 minutes, which is far too long. So, right now,...

0:53:150:53:18

Do you mind if I have a word with my viewers? Fine.

0:53:180:53:20

Lots and lots of minutes have gone by now. Right, back to the pot again.

0:53:200:53:24

Bit of sausage, this is a spicy sausage. We pop that in.

0:53:250:53:31

OK. Then we are going to add a bit of this wonderful chicken stock.

0:53:320:53:36

And how heartening... Back to me again, please, Clive, if you would.

0:53:360:53:40

I was amazed by the sophistication of the cooking

0:53:400:53:43

when I came to America. I didn't expect to find reduced chicken stock.

0:53:430:53:46

That is really good news, it's wonderful. Right back into there.

0:53:460:53:50

OK. Now, that has been bubbling for not nearly long enough,

0:53:550:53:58

but I want to add some more tomato.

0:53:580:54:00

Because this is okra smothered in tomato.

0:54:000:54:02

Put that in.

0:54:020:54:04

Get plenty of tomato in this. Right. Now, you just stay with that, Clive.

0:54:050:54:09

Just keep looking at that for the next 35 minutes, OK?

0:54:090:54:14

So there we are. The proof of the pudding is of course in the eating.

0:54:180:54:21

Mine is the one with the wooden spoon in it.

0:54:210:54:24

Paul's, the more mature, more reduced-looking one,

0:54:240:54:26

is the one with the metal spoon in it.

0:54:260:54:28

All we have to do, Paul, to see where I have gone wrong,

0:54:280:54:30

where I have gone right, is to taste it, I suppose. Can I try yours?

0:54:300:54:33

-Yes, and I will try yours.

-OK.

0:54:330:54:35

You really have done a wonderful job.

0:54:390:54:41

As a matter of fact, I think, since we have identified

0:54:410:54:44

whose is whose with the spoon,

0:54:440:54:46

I think we will kind of switch spoons, there!

0:54:460:54:49

This is... The taste comparison is very, very close. There is...

0:54:490:54:53

There is a little more depth in the one that is cooked a long time,

0:54:530:54:57

but this is, this is, this is good. Really, you have done a super job.

0:54:570:55:01

What a great jambalaya.

0:55:060:55:08

As ever, on Best Bites, we're looking back at some

0:55:080:55:10

of the fantastic cooking from the Saturday Kitchen recipe book.

0:55:100:55:13

Still to come on today's Best Bites: both Daniel Galmiche

0:55:130:55:16

and Jason Atherton had a long way to go

0:55:160:55:18

to break into the top ten when they met at the Omelette Challenge hobs.

0:55:180:55:21

How would they do? Let's find out a little later on.

0:55:210:55:24

The inspirational queen of Indian cookery, Madhur Jaffrey,

0:55:240:55:27

shows us how to use up roast beef.

0:55:270:55:29

She creates an amazing beef jalfrezi and serves it with broccoli

0:55:290:55:32

and sweet and sour squash.

0:55:320:55:34

And actress Miranda Raison faced her Food Heaven or Food Hell.

0:55:340:55:38

Would she get her Food Heaven - lobster with my home-made

0:55:380:55:40

lobster ravioli with sauteed courgettes and asparagus -

0:55:400:55:43

or would she get her dreaded Food Hell -

0:55:430:55:45

peppers with my Italian-inspired peperonata with stuffed squid?

0:55:450:55:48

You can find out what she gets to eat at the end of today's show.

0:55:480:55:52

Now it's time for a one-pot wonder Spanish-style - take it away,

0:55:520:55:55

Angela Hartnett. What's on the menu?

0:55:550:55:57

What we are going to be doing today, when I take that little leg off,

0:55:570:56:00

we are just going to bone the chicken down to eight nice pieces.

0:56:000:56:03

Saute that off - we're going to serve it with some roasted peppers,

0:56:030:56:06

some beautiful chorizo, finish with sage, a touch of lemon juice

0:56:060:56:09

and you're going to make me some aubergine with some onion

0:56:090:56:12

and tomato, finish with some cumin, coriander and a bit of basil.

0:56:120:56:15

-Sounds good to me.

-So, quite Spanish.

0:56:150:56:17

I only asked you for the name of the dish, not the entire description, but anyway, that's...

0:56:170:56:21

-You know me, I like to talk, James.

-HE LAUGHS

0:56:210:56:24

I'm trying to do that to stop you dancing, you see.

0:56:240:56:26

That's what the producer said.

0:56:260:56:27

-He said, "Talk, talk a lot."

-So, chicken.

0:56:270:56:29

You're going to cut that in to... saute, yeah?

0:56:290:56:31

Yeah, just so it's sauteed down. So it's quicker to cook, you know.

0:56:310:56:35

And I like the idea because it's sort of a one-pot wonder, really.

0:56:350:56:38

And then you can basically put it all on the table,

0:56:380:56:40

everyone can eat it out of the pan,

0:56:400:56:42

it's sort of the best way to do it, I think.

0:56:420:56:44

-The colander's back.

-The colander's back, yeah, but there's no...

0:56:440:56:48

Well, there are tomatoes in this dish,

0:56:480:56:49

but none at the moment for that, so...

0:56:490:56:51

You salt the aubergine, yeah?

0:56:510:56:52

Yeah, we were having this little discussion.

0:56:520:56:54

You see, I do it, not so much cos of the flavour

0:56:540:56:56

and the bitterness, cos I think you're right, there is none,

0:56:560:56:59

but I think it's more the fact that it takes out some of the liquid,

0:56:590:57:02

-so that when you fry it it's not so oily.

-And there it is.

0:57:020:57:06

-There we go.

-Nathan, does that excite you?

0:57:060:57:09

-I can make something with that.

-Keep it, keep it, he wants it.

0:57:090:57:13

Right, we've got our juice. And then fry that off?

0:57:130:57:15

Yeah, fry that off and then we're going to add our onions

0:57:150:57:18

and tomato to it, so we have this nice sort of...

0:57:180:57:20

It's like a caponata, which is a real southern Italian dish,

0:57:200:57:23

but we're going to spice it up with a bit of cumin there.

0:57:230:57:25

-Yeah.

-So...

0:57:250:57:27

Now, you've made this look quite easy and quick.

0:57:270:57:29

Well, yeah, I think it is quite easy and quick.

0:57:290:57:31

-What, to chop up a chicken like that?

-Yeah, maybe not, maybe not.

0:57:310:57:35

-But I do it because I think people...

-Zoe's going...

0:57:350:57:38

I know, you've just got to do it with confidence, haven't you, Angela?

0:57:380:57:41

-I'm thinking, "I can do that."

-Just think of someone when you do it.

0:57:410:57:44

OK. Oh, there is plenty of people I could think of, yeah.

0:57:440:57:46

Have that madness to you. When you've done it a couple of times...

0:57:460:57:49

I just think it would look like a chicken nugget

0:57:490:57:51

-if Zoe's let loose with a knife in the kitchen.

-That's a bit harsh.

0:57:510:57:54

I'm not good in the kitchen, Angela. I'm not.

0:57:540:57:57

So, that's like that.

0:57:570:57:58

Right, so, thighs, legs, two pieces of breast...

0:57:580:58:00

Thighs, legs, breast, exactly, all ready like that.

0:58:000:58:02

We're going to put a little bit of oil in there, just a touch.

0:58:020:58:06

-Fry off the old onion.

-Yeah.

0:58:060:58:08

Just a little bit there. And season that up.

0:58:090:58:12

Then skin-side down, cos what you're doing here is

0:58:120:58:14

just to get that lovely colour on the skin, really.

0:58:140:58:16

You're not cooking it cos you're going to finish it all in the oven.

0:58:160:58:19

Now, this is unusual for you, Spanish food and all that,

0:58:190:58:22

cos I thought you were... Italian through and through.

0:58:220:58:24

Well, yeah, but I think Spanish food...

0:58:240:58:26

I love the spiciness of it because, you know,

0:58:260:58:28

it has that sort of Moorish influence to it

0:58:280:58:30

and I love chorizo and that sort of paprikaness. So...

0:58:300:58:33

But, yeah, it's partly for a little bit of self-publicity

0:58:330:58:36

because I've just got a new book out and it's...

0:58:360:58:39

-GUESTS LAUGH

-Sorry, did I say that?

0:58:390:58:41

-And... And so...

-Go on, then.

0:58:420:58:45

Go on, so, a little bit of self-publicity, so that's why.

0:58:450:58:48

And it's in the book, so it's a great little dish,

0:58:480:58:51

and the whole point is it's these quick sort of one-pot wonders that

0:58:510:58:54

you can do all at once, so you don't have to spend hours in the kitchen.

0:58:540:58:57

I mean, I love you, Nathers,

0:58:570:58:59

there's no 14-hours tomato in a colander in that book, you know.

0:58:590:59:03

-Sounds good.

-It'll be good.

0:59:030:59:06

The chicken, you're just going to brown that off?

0:59:060:59:08

Just brown that off, just slicing up the chorizo now. That's one side.

0:59:080:59:11

Now, this is the picante one,

0:59:110:59:13

the spicier one of the two, innit, really?

0:59:130:59:15

Yeah, quite spicy, but it will give off this fantastic oil

0:59:150:59:19

that you see as well, which will all add to the flavour of it.

0:59:190:59:23

I feel like I've spent an hour just chopping tomatoes.

0:59:230:59:26

-I know, it gets better.

-You're getting better at it.

0:59:260:59:28

I think we've got tomato dessert lined up as well now,

0:59:280:59:31

something like that.

0:59:310:59:32

-Yeah.

-I love the idea of everything in one pot.

0:59:340:59:37

It's so much easier, like...

0:59:370:59:38

You know, when you've got the kids, you've got everyone to feed,

0:59:380:59:41

-but all in one pot is a great idea.

-Then just put it on the table.

0:59:410:59:44

-You're thinking about the washing up.

-That's what I'm thinking.

0:59:440:59:46

Smart, very smart though.

0:59:460:59:48

That's how it should be. Right, so we just check the colour of this.

0:59:480:59:51

-Yeah. You all right?

-Beautiful.

0:59:510:59:54

That's what you're just looking for, a nice bit of colour there.

0:59:540:59:58

Perfect. And it's going to roast in the oven as well.

0:59:581:00:00

So, I've got the onions sweating off there with the tomatoes.

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-Perfect, good man.

-There you go.

1:00:041:00:06

Now, you're not just working on the restaurant at the moment, are you?

1:00:061:00:09

You are doing other stuff.

1:00:091:00:11

Other stuff, yeah, I look after Whitechapel Gallery, which is

1:00:111:00:14

down in the East End, very near my house,

1:00:141:00:16

-which is very convenient, which we like.

-Right.

1:00:161:00:19

And I do that with this catering company, Smart Hospitality,

1:00:191:00:21

so we do that in combination.

1:00:211:00:24

And then, yeah, maybe next year a few other bits and bobs.

1:00:241:00:26

-I'm going up to Silverstone after, you'll like that.

-Ooh!

1:00:261:00:30

Not cos I like cars, but I'm doing a dinner up there.

1:00:301:00:32

The cars are actually wasted on me. I'm a total...

1:00:321:00:34

The worst person to go up there!

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-JAMES LAUGHS

-But, you know.

1:00:361:00:38

They said, "D'you want to watch?" I said, "No interest,

1:00:381:00:40

"I don't get it". Sorry, James, you know, it's just the way.

1:00:401:00:42

Don't look at me, I'm going back to Ibiza this afternoon.

1:00:421:00:45

F1 drivers, do they have to eat or do they have to be light? CONVERSATION DROWNED OUT

1:00:451:00:48

A bit of that in there. You got a bit of olive oil in there?

1:00:481:00:51

-Olive oil.

-And just to sort of start the cooking off,

1:00:511:00:53

put that in there, perfect.

1:00:531:00:56

We're going to put in a little bit of sage as well, cos I think

1:00:561:00:58

sage goes really great with sort of any pork products, which is fab.

1:00:581:01:01

So what do you cook a Formula 1 car driver? Cos they don't eat much.

1:01:011:01:04

-Or they do eat much, but they're really...small.

-What are we doing?

1:01:041:01:07

We're doing a lovely risotto to start with,

1:01:071:01:10

then we're doing a little crab dish

1:01:101:01:12

and then finishing off with some roasted fillet of beef, actually.

1:01:121:01:15

-Ah!

-So perfect for you, Zoe, there, you see.

-Steak, oh!

1:01:151:01:18

Right, so just literally if we could get those sauteed off.

1:01:181:01:21

Straight in there, that all goes in together.

1:01:211:01:25

Then we finish it with a little bit of lemon zest,

1:01:251:01:29

which is just grated on top.

1:01:291:01:30

And if you feel that, you know, when you put it in the oven, it might

1:01:301:01:33

look a bit dry, just add a little bit of water and it'll be fine.

1:01:331:01:36

Finish with a nice squeeze of lemon.

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OK.

1:01:391:01:41

Right, I'm going to probably put that onto that pan, actually.

1:01:411:01:44

And that's there. So I can put this in here.

1:01:441:01:46

-You can pop it in the oven, yeah.

-Beautiful. Beautiful.

1:01:461:01:49

Oh, herbs, we always forget the herbs, so, a little bit of...basil.

1:01:491:01:54

You can take the Devil's food, coriander.

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-I can't deal with that.

-Devil's food?

1:01:571:01:58

Why do you put it in there then if you...?

1:01:581:02:00

Well, I think you have to as a chef, you've sort of got to be,

1:02:001:02:02

you know, not necessarily do everything you like,

1:02:021:02:05

and coriander goes really well with the cumin and the aubergine.

1:02:051:02:07

But it's not something I like, you know?

1:02:071:02:10

And then also I'm quite upset now cos there was a recent article

1:02:101:02:13

that said people that don't like coriander are basically

1:02:131:02:15

quite stupid and people that love it are quite intelligent!

1:02:151:02:18

I was like, "Thanks for that, that makes me feel really, you know..."

1:02:181:02:22

-So, I'm sure you love it, James, don't you?

-I love coriander.

1:02:221:02:25

-Exactly.

-Can't get enough of it.

1:02:251:02:27

Yeah, all the time.

1:02:271:02:28

-So, and also I get very... All the time, I'm always using...

-Mmm!

1:02:281:02:32

Oh, delicious! I always use basil, so I have to be a bit adventurous.

1:02:321:02:36

And we're just going to finish - a little bit of red wine there,

1:02:361:02:39

vinegar rather, and a touch of the cumin, which should...

1:02:391:02:42

Perfect, there.

1:02:421:02:44

OK, let's give that a little stir.

1:02:451:02:47

-And we've got toasted pine nuts here.

-Yeah.

1:02:471:02:49

-Throw those in now as well.

-Them in there?

1:02:491:02:53

Yep, fantastic.

1:02:531:02:54

And this, you can do as a little veggie dish separate, you know.

1:02:541:02:57

It's going with the chicken, but if you don't want it...perfect.

1:02:571:03:00

-Seasoning, or...?

-Yes, please. Thank you very much.

1:03:001:03:03

Beautiful.

1:03:031:03:04

-Black pepper?

-Yeah, a little bit.

1:03:041:03:07

-A little bit.

-Beauty.

1:03:071:03:11

-That's it. Ooh, crikey!

-So, how long's that chicken had in the oven?

1:03:111:03:14

-It's had about 35 to 40 minutes.

-Right.

1:03:141:03:16

OK, so you've got the...

1:03:161:03:17

And you get this lovely, yellowy coloured oil,

1:03:171:03:20

orange-coloured oil from it, don't you?

1:03:201:03:21

Yeah, which is all the juices from the chorizo. Yeah, perfect.

1:03:211:03:25

We put a little bit there.

1:03:251:03:26

And that's what I like, you could put that in a pot on the table,

1:03:261:03:29

serve the chicken in another pot...

1:03:291:03:30

And you plugged your book, but you didn't mention what it was called.

1:03:301:03:33

Sorry, yeah, so silly, it's that coriander, you see! Taste Of...

1:03:331:03:37

Taste Of Home, it's called.

1:03:371:03:39

So, dishes like this that you literally, you know,

1:03:391:03:42

one-pot wonders, pot on the table.

1:03:421:03:43

Can you pour a little bit of the oil, James,

1:03:431:03:46

cos I'll spill that all over me?

1:03:461:03:47

It's very pink, this episode, isn't it?

1:03:491:03:52

Cos the chorizo oil, the pullover, the... You know, Nathan...

1:03:521:03:55

-Just saying, there's a theme to it.

-There is a theme. Remind us again.

1:03:551:03:59

So you've got roasted pork, roast chicken with chorizo,

1:03:591:04:02

red peppers, finished with spiced aubergine and coriander leaves.

1:04:021:04:05

-Coriander.

-Beautiful, thank you, James.

1:04:051:04:08

-ANGELA LAUGHS

-Thanks, my love.

-OK.

1:04:081:04:11

-There you go. Right, looks fantastic.

-Smells incredible.

1:04:131:04:16

-We're ready, smells great.

-Smells great? Dive into that one.

-Oh!

1:04:161:04:20

-Thank you, Angela, this looks delicious.

-It is great, simple food.

1:04:201:04:23

There you go. And the sausage and the chicken are a great combination.

1:04:231:04:26

There are certain things that go well in life

1:04:261:04:28

and they always do, you know.

1:04:281:04:30

-But that and scallops really work as well.

-It's true...

1:04:301:04:32

You could change the meat as well, couldn't you? Different meat...

1:04:321:04:35

Lamb and stuff like pork.

1:04:351:04:36

Oh, pork would be perfect with it, yeah, something like that.

1:04:361:04:39

I don't think you'll get any of that after Danny's finished!

1:04:391:04:41

She definitely showed that chicken who is boss,

1:04:461:04:48

it was jointed in seconds.

1:04:481:04:50

It's Omelette Challenge time now and when they met at the hobs,

1:04:501:04:52

Daniel Galmiche and Jason Atherton were battling in an attempt

1:04:521:04:56

to get into the top ten.

1:04:561:04:57

They are both great chefs, but could either of them do any better?

1:04:571:05:01

Let's find out.

1:05:011:05:02

Let's get down to business - the chefs that come on the show

1:05:021:05:05

battle it out against the clock and each other

1:05:051:05:07

to make a three-egg omelette.

1:05:071:05:08

That's all we ask them to do.

1:05:081:05:10

Daniel did it the last time he was here, 25.88 seconds.

1:05:101:05:13

A little way behind Mr Atherton over there,

1:05:131:05:17

22.96, but they've both got a long way to go

1:05:171:05:19

before they get on the blue board.

1:05:191:05:21

Usual rules apply - clocks on the screen, please.

1:05:211:05:24

Three-egg omelette, cooked as fast as you can. Are you ready?

1:05:241:05:26

Three, two, one, go.

1:05:281:05:29

One of them's quick.

1:05:391:05:41

GONG CLASHES

1:05:471:05:49

Don't know what that was!

1:05:511:05:54

There you go - an omelette cooked by Jason Atherton...

1:05:541:05:56

GONG CLASHES

1:05:561:05:58

Oh, my God. I'll be empty tonight.

1:06:001:06:01

LAUGHTER

1:06:011:06:03

Anyway, James, just taste that, will you?

1:06:071:06:09

I'll just have a taste of this.

1:06:101:06:12

-It's cooked this time. Nearly.

-Hm...

1:06:131:06:15

First of all, half of it is left on there.

1:06:171:06:19

And second of all, it's only two eggs.

1:06:191:06:22

No, it's not, it's three! Look, I'll put 'em back together.

1:06:221:06:25

-LAUGHTER

-This one...

1:06:251:06:26

-You call that "baveuse", don't you?

-Baveuse, yes.

1:06:301:06:33

We call that "uncooked" in England.

1:06:331:06:35

LAUGHTER

1:06:351:06:36

Daniel...

1:06:391:06:41

-Yes?

-LAUGHING: Yes?

1:06:421:06:44

You're not quicker. You did it in 27.32.

1:06:461:06:49

It's a good job, actually, because we've obviously run of printer ink.

1:06:491:06:52

-You look a different colour.

-Yeah, so that's me as well.

1:06:521:06:54

-Thank you very much.

-Jason...

1:06:541:06:56

You're going to ban me. You'll put me in the bin again. I know you will.

1:06:581:07:01

Sorry, I'm not saying anything!

1:07:021:07:04

You did it in 18.52 seconds.

1:07:051:07:08

But don't even think about getting on the board!

1:07:081:07:10

Sorry, but you're both rubbish. I know it's harsh, but it's fair.

1:07:151:07:19

It's not often we get to welcome the legendary Madhur Jaffrey

1:07:191:07:22

into the studio, but when we do, we know we're in for a treat.

1:07:221:07:25

And I have to be on my best behaviour - on this visit,

1:07:251:07:28

she cooks a recipe from Calcutta using leftover roast beef.

1:07:281:07:31

Great to have you on the show.

1:07:311:07:33

It's been so long, over a year since we've last seen you.

1:07:331:07:36

-Has it been that long?

-It is.

-I can't remember.

1:07:361:07:38

But I feel it was yesterday, yeah.

1:07:381:07:41

What are we cooking?

1:07:411:07:43

We're starting with jalfrezi.

1:07:431:07:44

-Jalfrezi.

-That Bengali-Anglo-Indian wonderful dish.

1:07:441:07:48

We're going to start right away.

1:07:481:07:50

So, I'm going to chop an onion.

1:07:501:07:52

If you would like, you could chop up the potato for me.

1:07:521:07:55

Do something, if you would like? OK, I can do that.

1:07:551:07:58

-Oh, the wrong thing.

-DO you want a little knife?

1:07:581:08:01

Yeah, this is fine, this is fine.

1:08:011:08:02

-OK.

-OK. I think this may be too big an onion,

1:08:021:08:05

but we'll take what we can get here.

1:08:051:08:07

You want me to do the beef? I'll do the beef.

1:08:071:08:09

All right, you can do the beef.

1:08:091:08:11

This is already pre-cooked beef.

1:08:111:08:13

This...you can do this with leftover beef.

1:08:131:08:16

You can do this with leftover lamb, that's fine, too.

1:08:161:08:19

Any of these will do, but you can make it fresh -

1:08:191:08:21

if you have nothing else, you can cook some beef,

1:08:211:08:24

just the amount you need.

1:08:241:08:26

And you can even boil it.

1:08:261:08:27

In India, very often, they will boil it with a little salt

1:08:271:08:30

and then proceed with the dish.

1:08:301:08:32

Has jalfrezi always got meat in it? Or can it sometimes have fish?

1:08:321:08:36

No - actually, it always has meat in it.

1:08:361:08:39

It's leftover meat, traditionally, with spices.

1:08:391:08:42

But you can add potatoes.

1:08:421:08:45

The variation here is the potatoes and that makes such a difference.

1:08:451:08:49

That's what we're going to do. OK.

1:08:491:08:51

And, of course, the spices which we use in India,

1:08:511:08:54

and everybody uses the spices,

1:08:541:08:56

whether you're Indian or Anglo-Indian or whatever -

1:08:561:09:00

if you live in India, you're sucked into this wonderful world of spices.

1:09:001:09:03

-Yeah.

-All right. I'm going to put this here.

1:09:031:09:05

-You're using oil. Could you use ghee with that or not?

-No, no.

1:09:051:09:08

You don't want to get fat.

1:09:081:09:09

LAUGHTER

1:09:091:09:11

-You don't want to get fat?

-No, no.

1:09:111:09:13

So, now...all right, you put in...

1:09:131:09:16

Speak for yourself!

1:09:161:09:17

LAUGHTER.

1:09:171:09:18

-What's in there?

-Cumin seeds.

-Cumin seeds.

1:09:181:09:21

That's what's going to give it the flavour, plus the chilli.

1:09:211:09:24

Meanwhile, the cumin seeds sizzle for five seconds...

1:09:241:09:26

This is what lots of people don't do - they don't toast the spices.

1:09:261:09:29

Right - you have to let them sizzle,

1:09:291:09:31

they turn slightly brown and exciting.

1:09:311:09:34

Now you put in the onion.

1:09:341:09:36

And I will put in the potatoes as soon as...

1:09:381:09:41

As soon as I've done them. I'm doing my best.

1:09:411:09:44

No, you haven't started on the potatoes.

1:09:441:09:47

LAUGHTER

1:09:471:09:49

-You're on the wrong vegetable right now.

-Oh, right - sorry.

1:09:491:09:53

-All right.

-I'm doing them now, right. Potato - this is precooked potato.

1:09:551:09:58

Yeah, this is boiled potatoes. The chillies...

1:09:581:10:01

-Now, if people are not very used to chilli, get them very fine.

-Yeah.

1:10:011:10:08

You put the seeds in, the lot?

1:10:081:10:10

Oh, yes - we never throw away the seeds.

1:10:101:10:12

What's the point of a chilli if you don't eat the seeds?

1:10:121:10:15

-All right.

-Precisely.

1:10:151:10:17

That's what I've been trying to tell everybody for years, see?

1:10:171:10:20

I'll start stirring that.

1:10:201:10:22

Don't they, in Indian cooking, use a lot of onions, or not?

1:10:221:10:25

-Is that just...?

-No, no - there are dishes without onions.

1:10:251:10:27

There are whole groups of people that don't eat onions and garlic.

1:10:271:10:31

Some people like onions in some things.

1:10:311:10:33

You don't put onions in a lot of vegetables,

1:10:331:10:35

but you do very often with meat.

1:10:351:10:38

-All right.

-So, whereabouts is this from in India? What region?

1:10:381:10:41

It's really from Bengal. It's the Anglo-England community in Bengal.

1:10:411:10:45

Our dishes are very specific to specific areas,

1:10:451:10:48

specific people,

1:10:481:10:49

and this is really an Anglo-Indian dish from Calcutta, actually.

1:10:491:10:54

All right - so, this is precooked potato.

1:10:541:10:56

Precooked diced potato and chillies

1:10:561:10:59

and I'm going to let the whole thing brown a bit in this oil.

1:10:591:11:05

-And I'm using...

-You want me to do the...?

1:11:051:11:08

You can start the squash or the broccoli.

1:11:081:11:11

-COUGHING:

-In a hot pan.

-Yeah.

1:11:111:11:13

The chilli - ah, it's lovely, clears the head. Wonderful!

1:11:131:11:18

LAUGHTER

1:11:181:11:20

-You see? It's clearing the head.

-It's clearing a lot of things!

1:11:201:11:23

What's going in here, this stuff?

1:11:231:11:25

-Uh, yes - you've got oil in there?

-Yes, that's oil.

1:11:251:11:27

So it's mustard seeds and asafoetida.

1:11:271:11:31

-Which is...?

-Asafoetida is...a resin,

1:11:311:11:35

and it's like truffles or garlic, if you want to get more mundane,

1:11:351:11:40

but it has that extra depth and aroma, which we love in India.

1:11:401:11:45

So that's going in there. Then the idea is we brown this off, first?

1:11:451:11:49

Brown it for a few minutes

1:11:491:11:51

-and then we can just let it cook till it's soft.

-OK.

1:11:511:11:55

Now, I mentioned actress, TV cook, everything.

1:11:551:12:00

You're bringing out books as well as films.

1:12:001:12:02

Tell us about your latest book.

1:12:021:12:04

This is from my latest book, by the way - Curry Easy.

1:12:041:12:07

Funny, that(!)

1:12:071:12:08

LAUGHTER

1:12:081:12:09

-Made easy for you, you know?

-Yes, thank you!

1:12:091:12:13

So you can do it with great convenience

1:12:131:12:16

and anybody else can do it.

1:12:161:12:17

So I picked dishes from India that are simple to make,

1:12:171:12:21

very simple, like this.

1:12:211:12:23

-People think India food...it is complicated, or...?

-No.

1:12:231:12:27

No, it can be, like French food can be -

1:12:271:12:30

you can take two days to make a dish

1:12:301:12:32

and you can take ten minutes to make a dish.

1:12:321:12:35

Like coq au vin, you see?

1:12:351:12:37

LAUGHING: Coq au vin? No, no, no, not coq au vin.

1:12:371:12:40

All right, so I've let this brown a little bit,

1:12:401:12:44

now I'm going to put all the diced meat.

1:12:441:12:47

Now, I've got my spices in there.

1:12:471:12:49

I'm just going to put a little bit of water in here.

1:12:491:12:51

-A touch of water in there?

-Yeah, yup -

1:12:511:12:53

you have to put enough water to let it cook.

1:12:531:12:56

-Then just cook that.

-Yeah. So, now, this...

1:12:561:12:58

You go on stirring this. I will add salt and pepper to this.

1:12:581:13:03

It doesn't need anything else, you see?

1:13:031:13:06

It's one main spice, which is cumin, and that's it,

1:13:061:13:09

so...not every Indian food has 20 spices.

1:13:091:13:13

People are mistaken when they think that.

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All right, salt and pepper.

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Now, I've got my broccoli here, you want this cut up into florets?

1:13:181:13:21

-Yes.

-Yeah? So, apart from your cookbooks and bits and pieces,

1:13:211:13:24

you're still doing films?

1:13:241:13:26

-I'm still doing films.

-Yeah.

-I had a film come out in August.

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I have a film coming out in November.

1:13:301:13:32

This is a good year for me - one book, two films.

1:13:321:13:36

One book, two films. But you still do a lot of writing as well.

1:13:361:13:39

I still do a lot of writing. I write for magazines and newspapers.

1:13:391:13:43

Um...you know, that goes on.

1:13:431:13:46

All right - so, now, the secret is to let it just sit around and brown.

1:13:471:13:52

So what have we got here? This is for the broccoli.

1:13:521:13:54

The broccoli has mustard seeds, cumin seeds and asafoetida,

1:13:541:13:59

the same wonderful spice.

1:13:591:14:01

By the way, this spice comes from Afghanistan,

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so if there's too much war there, we'll stop getting it,

1:14:041:14:07

so we better not have war.

1:14:071:14:09

-That's a good excuse!

-That's my dream - for no war.

1:14:101:14:14

There we go. Big pot - in goes the broccoli, like that.

1:14:141:14:17

-Yeah. Now...

-And the secret is - particularly like Chinese food -

1:14:171:14:20

you don't add too much oil. You just add a touch of water.

1:14:201:14:23

A touch of water, cover, and just let it soak through.

1:14:231:14:26

There we go. So we leave that cooking.

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And we leave this cooking, and that's cooking.

1:14:291:14:32

-You've got coriander in there.

-I'm going to put coriander,

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then you have to put salt, sugar and chilli powder.

1:14:351:14:38

Salt, sugar, chilli powder. That's going in the...?

1:14:381:14:41

So it's slightly sweet, slightly sour.

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It's going to get sour from the yoghurt,

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which we'll put in at the end.

1:14:451:14:47

If people haven't got butternut squash,

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could they use courgettes, or any other type of veg?

1:14:491:14:52

Yes, yes - any pumpkin-y thing. Anything that's in that family.

1:14:521:14:56

You can use pumpkin. In fact, in Bangladesh,

1:14:561:14:58

where this dish is from, they would use pumpkin.

1:14:581:15:01

-Right.

-So when it's done, when it's tender,

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you put in the yoghurt,

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and you stir it about until the yoghurt just disappears.

1:15:071:15:10

OK. So the idea is we just get a bit of colour on the broccoli.

1:15:101:15:14

So what's next for Madhur, then? What's on the cards?

1:15:141:15:18

Are you going to do more filming or...?

1:15:181:15:20

-I'm going to do more filming.

-I'm hoping to start another cookbook.

1:15:201:15:25

It's in the works, actually.

1:15:251:15:27

I never stop. There's always one in the oven.

1:15:271:15:29

Where do you base yourself, now? Where do you base yourself?

1:15:291:15:32

I'm in New York. I'm in New York.

1:15:321:15:34

I live in the Village, which is the southern end

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of the island of Manhattan.

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See what I'm doing? I'm sort of slightly mashing it up.

1:15:391:15:42

It's really going to be yummy.

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And I've let a crust form at the bottom.

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-So it is like a hash sort of thing.

-It's a real hash.

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And you can have it with just a little ketchup.

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Or you can have it with these vegetables.

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A fried egg on the top.

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Or a fried egg on the top, or poached egg on the top.

1:15:581:16:02

It's wonderful.

1:16:021:16:03

Right, so I'm nearly there with our...

1:16:051:16:07

This cooked straightaway, this squash. It's quite simple.

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So I put the sugar, the salt and the chilli in there.

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-OK, now you put the yoghurt.

-A bit of yoghurt.

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And stir it in until it disappears. And then put the green coriander.

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And this is eaten as a kind of relish,

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so you have it with other foods,

1:16:241:16:26

because it provides a chutney-like, wonderful taste.

1:16:261:16:31

-This could be hot or cold, then, I suppose.

-Exactly.

1:16:311:16:34

I always like to taste things, just to make sure there's enough salt.

1:16:361:16:41

Mmm...

1:16:441:16:45

Good?

1:16:451:16:46

Yummy.

1:16:461:16:48

-There you go.

-Mmm - I would put a little more salt.

1:16:481:16:52

-Would you like to taste it?

-I always like more salt.

1:16:521:16:55

-I did it for you, actually.

-Thank you.

1:16:551:16:57

You always say, "Not enough salt."

1:16:581:17:00

HE COUGHS

1:17:001:17:02

-Whoa! Bit of a kick, isn't there?

-Yeah.

1:17:041:17:06

Green chillies provide the kick.

1:17:061:17:08

-COUGHING:

-No, it's fine.

1:17:081:17:10

LAUGHTER I hope you're all right.

1:17:101:17:12

-It's lovely, yeah.

-For you, less green chillies, next time.

1:17:121:17:17

Great, right - a bit of this on the side? Where do you want this?

1:17:171:17:21

In fact, don't tell me. Where do you want it?

1:17:211:17:24

-Just here.

-There?

-There.

1:17:241:17:26

All right. That's good.

1:17:261:17:27

And then we can have the broccoli here.

1:17:281:17:32

Right, I'll do that.

1:17:321:17:33

This could be the new cooking programme.

1:17:361:17:39

OK, and then that along there.

1:17:391:17:42

-What, you want me to plate that one as well?

-Yes.

-All right.

1:17:421:17:45

You have the big reach.

1:17:451:17:46

Fair enough. Do we need to put anything else in there?

1:17:461:17:49

-Coriander?

-No... Oh, yeah, sure.

1:17:491:17:52

This is always good. You know why we do it?

1:17:521:17:55

It's full of vitamins, that's why we do use all this coriander.

1:17:551:18:00

Like you said, just fried off in oil,

1:18:001:18:02

don't need to use any of that ghee?

1:18:021:18:03

No, no, no.

1:18:031:18:05

No, we don't.

1:18:051:18:06

LAUGHTER

1:18:061:18:07

Remind us what that is again.

1:18:071:18:09

SHE LAUGHS

1:18:091:18:11

-Remind us what that is again.

-All right, this is done.

1:18:111:18:14

-Yeah, remind us what it is, again.

-Oh, what is it?

1:18:141:18:17

People are just waking up.

1:18:171:18:18

Good morning!

1:18:181:18:20

Jalfrezi, this is jalfrezi.

1:18:201:18:22

Jalfrezi, without butter - but you can use it, possibly,

1:18:221:18:25

-when she's not looking.

-No ghee.

1:18:251:18:26

Lovely - right, over here. Have a seat over here, Madhur.

1:18:311:18:34

-OK.

-There you go. This is for you.

-Thank you.

-There you go.

1:18:341:18:39

-Jalfrezi for breakfast. There you go.

-Lovely!

1:18:391:18:42

Your first cooking programme -

1:18:421:18:44

blow your socks off when you have jalfrezi for breakfast.

1:18:441:18:47

Dive in, tell us what you think.

1:18:471:18:49

-Like you say, that butternut squash, you can have that hot or cold.

-Yes.

1:18:491:18:53

-With cold meats, stuff like that?

-Exactly.

-Mmm!

1:18:531:18:56

-SHE GASPS

-It is hot and spicy, innit?

1:18:561:18:59

-I love chilli, though.

-Ah!

-Try some of that stuff.

1:18:591:19:02

But it is...has got a little kick in there,

1:19:021:19:04

those little green chillies.

1:19:041:19:05

Mmm...

1:19:051:19:06

It's so light as well, though.

1:19:061:19:08

That's it - if you don't cook it

1:19:081:19:09

in a lot of oil - or GHEE - then it's light.

1:19:091:19:13

-Oh...

-Happy with that.

-I have to pass it on, now!

1:19:131:19:16

Spicy Indian beef hash - perfect for Monday evening,

1:19:211:19:24

when you can use up all of those Sunday roast leftovers.

1:19:241:19:27

Actress Miranda Raison had her heart set on lobster

1:19:271:19:30

when she came to face her Food Heaven or Food Hell.

1:19:301:19:32

She certainly didn't want to eat peppers served with squid.

1:19:321:19:36

But which one did she get?

1:19:361:19:37

Food Heaven would be, I think, a lot of people's, to be honest -

1:19:371:19:40

it was certainly our callers' -

1:19:401:19:41

lobster, here, which could be transformed into a lovely

1:19:411:19:44

lobster ravioli with lobster bisque, lovely fresh veg.

1:19:441:19:48

Alternatively, we've got peppers over here,

1:19:481:19:50

stewed with another one of your favourite things -

1:19:501:19:52

or least favourite things - squid,

1:19:521:19:53

stuffed with more peppers and ricotta cheese.

1:19:531:19:55

What do you think they've decided? Have they been nice to you?

1:19:551:19:58

Oh, I don't...it just seems like it could all be a horrible set-up

1:19:581:20:02

and I'm going to end up eating...

1:20:021:20:03

Neil likes his lobster, he was brought up on lobster, him -

1:20:031:20:05

fine, strapping lad, there.

1:20:051:20:07

-Brought up on lobster...

-I hope it's heaven.

1:20:071:20:09

-It is - 7-0.

-Yay!

1:20:091:20:10

It definitely is. Everybody's chosen it -

1:20:101:20:12

a bit disappointing for me, cos it's the hardest thing to cook.

1:20:121:20:15

We've got the smallest amount of time.

1:20:151:20:17

First thing we're going to do is make a salmon mousse here.

1:20:171:20:20

Now, to go with this, we've got some salmon.

1:20:201:20:22

I'm going to blend that, or rather, Mark is,

1:20:221:20:25

with some double cream, a touch of lemon -

1:20:251:20:27

that's it, to make a little salmon mousse.

1:20:271:20:29

Next, we'll julienne, or thinly slice,

1:20:291:20:31

our courgette and leeks over here,

1:20:311:20:34

which is going to go nicely into our nice pan as a base.

1:20:341:20:39

I'm going to make a lobster bisque.

1:20:391:20:41

Now, this is a way to use up the shells of the lobster or the crab.

1:20:411:20:45

What you don't do in restaurants is throw the shells away.

1:20:451:20:48

-That's the best bit, James, isn't it?

-It is the best, best bit.

1:20:481:20:51

It's the whole point of this dish - obviously, you've got the meat,

1:20:511:20:54

but it is very expensive.

1:20:541:20:55

When you're buying a lobster like this,

1:20:551:20:57

it is actually quite expensive, so what we're going to do

1:20:571:21:01

is utilise the shells, which you use a lot in restaurants

1:21:011:21:03

to make soup, bisques, stuff like that.

1:21:031:21:05

So you start off with onions and some carrot.

1:21:051:21:08

You can put a little bit of garlic in there if you want.

1:21:081:21:10

We've got fresh thyme. Throw all that in. Plenty of stuff.

1:21:101:21:14

Then we've got a bit of tomato puree.

1:21:151:21:18

Now, you need that, for colour.

1:21:181:21:20

Tomato puree, there we go.

1:21:201:21:22

Then we've got a lobster here. To do that, prepare our lobster,

1:21:221:21:26

you take the claws off, you take this part out here,

1:21:261:21:29

utilise this shell, the whole shell goes in.

1:21:291:21:31

-Wow!

-All right?

1:21:311:21:33

Cos there's still flavour in the shell.

1:21:331:21:35

What we're going to do is just crack this open, peel this out like that.

1:21:351:21:41

The secret with lobster is you don't overcook it - very, very important.

1:21:411:21:45

Timing-wise, boys,

1:21:451:21:46

if you were doing a lobster, per pound, what do you reckon?

1:21:461:21:49

-Ooh...five minutes?

-Yeah, five minutes.

1:21:491:21:52

Five minutes per pound, no more than that.

1:21:521:21:54

So we've got our nice lobster meat here,

1:21:541:21:56

which I'm just going to cut rounds of.

1:21:561:21:58

There you go. I'll dice this bit here,

1:21:581:22:00

which is going to go into our ravioli,

1:22:001:22:03

-which needs to be done very quickly, so if you can swap things...?

-Yeah.

1:22:031:22:06

You've got two claws - one that holds the food it catches,

1:22:061:22:09

one that cuts it.

1:22:091:22:11

-The one that's biggest holds it.

-Oh, really?

-Yeah.

1:22:111:22:14

So, when it's alive, don't put your hands anywhere near this or that.

1:22:141:22:17

This one is really, really strong.

1:22:171:22:18

So we just crack the shell. There you go.

1:22:181:22:21

-Open it like that and you pull the flesh out like that.

-Yum!

1:22:221:22:26

Still using these shells, look - OK? So, this one,

1:22:261:22:30

we crack the meat, like that.

1:22:301:22:33

Back of a knife.

1:22:331:22:34

There we go, take out this. Take the small part of the claw.

1:22:361:22:39

Crack it and twist. Then the meat should just fall out, like that.

1:22:391:22:42

That's what we want - oh, sorry.

1:22:421:22:44

Still using all the shells, which we've got in here - take the whole lot.

1:22:441:22:47

Including the juice, all in there.

1:22:501:22:52

So we don't lose any of this. We can roast this, if you wanted.

1:22:521:22:55

Alternatively, we can leave it as it is.

1:22:551:22:57

But what we're going to do now is add some chicken stock.

1:22:571:23:01

-It's unusual, putting chicken stock in this, but it does work.

-Right.

1:23:011:23:04

You cook that for about 45 minutes,

1:23:041:23:06

and we end up with this stuff that we've got here.

1:23:061:23:09

Then what we've got to do is blend this.

1:23:101:23:12

This is the interesting thing about bisque -

1:23:121:23:15

-you blend the whole shells.

-Oh, wow.

1:23:151:23:17

Right - now...as a trainee chef -

1:23:171:23:20

I'm sure these boys have done it many, many times -

1:23:201:23:23

as a trainee, you would just get this job

1:23:231:23:26

every single day in the kitchen...

1:23:261:23:28

..if lobster bisque was on the menu.

1:23:291:23:31

Then you'd have to pass it by hand through a mouli,

1:23:311:23:34

which goes backwards and forwards, which you turn,

1:23:341:23:36

which you can get on the internet - a bit like his sausage machine.

1:23:361:23:40

Then lid on.

1:23:401:23:41

Blend this, including the shells, the whole lot gets blended.

1:23:431:23:47

-I didn't know that.

-The whole lot gets chopped.

1:23:471:23:49

Then what we can do now is add some butter...

1:23:511:23:53

..a knob of butter...

1:23:561:23:57

..and some cream.

1:23:581:24:00

Don't forget, by the way, once it's in there,

1:24:011:24:04

you've got some brandy which needs to go in as well.

1:24:041:24:07

So you've got brandy there.

1:24:071:24:08

You blend it all up.

1:24:081:24:10

Lid off. How are we going with the ravioli?

1:24:111:24:13

-How many do you need, James?

-Two and a half minutes left.

1:24:131:24:15

So, you've got one minute to make ravioli.

1:24:151:24:18

It's always better to give it to somebody else to do, see?

1:24:201:24:23

And then what you do is just quickly saute that lot off - there you go -

1:24:231:24:28

-and we've got this sauce...

-That looks amazing.

1:24:281:24:31

It's rich. You can have this as a soup.

1:24:311:24:34

But you can keep this. It freezes fantastically well, this stuff.

1:24:341:24:38

So you don't need to throw any of this away -

1:24:381:24:40

the idea is that it keeps.

1:24:401:24:42

Put that on there, then I'll take my asparagus.

1:24:421:24:47

I'll blanch that in there. That goes in.

1:24:471:24:50

A little risotto - a little pasta, very simple.

1:24:501:24:52

Egg yolks, plain flour, you can use, or 00 flour, is what you want.

1:24:521:24:58

-Ravioli, how are we doing, boys?

-Yeah.

1:24:591:25:01

So we've basically put the ravioli through a pasta machine,

1:25:011:25:04

put the salmon mousse in the middle, the lobster's in there as well.

1:25:041:25:07

Then we're going to blanch this, or rather, cook this,

1:25:071:25:11

in boiling water, which we've got in there.

1:25:111:25:13

That's going to sit in there

1:25:131:25:15

and we cook that for about a minute, all right?

1:25:151:25:17

-Over here, we've got our courgettes and leeks.

-You want these claws?

1:25:171:25:21

Yeah, we're going to use those.

1:25:211:25:23

Straight into it, this meat. Goes in there as well.

1:25:231:25:25

That should be enough, boys, thank you very much.

1:25:251:25:28

We've got the lobster meat - we warm this in the sauce, see?

1:25:281:25:31

So we don't lose any of that.

1:25:311:25:34

There you go. Now, if I just...

1:25:341:25:36

..heat that up, a bit of salt, a bit of black pepper,

1:25:371:25:41

that finishes this one off.

1:25:411:25:43

There you go - can you season up that sauce for me, please?

1:25:431:25:46

-Yeah.

-That would be nice.

1:25:461:25:47

So you've got three chefs dancing around the kitchen.

1:25:491:25:51

-It's great. We love it, don't we?

-I feel quite important.

1:25:511:25:55

There we go - so you get your leeks and courgettes.

1:25:551:25:58

We don't overcook these, just literally pop them on there.

1:25:581:26:01

Quite nice to finish that with a little brandy, sometimes, isn't it?

1:26:011:26:04

I put brandy in at the start, but like you say,

1:26:041:26:06

you can put more in, obviously.

1:26:061:26:07

-There you go. We'll take...

-Not when there's a show this afternoon, though.

1:26:071:26:11

-No!

-Take our asparagus out.

1:26:111:26:12

There you go. A little butter, you can have that in there.

1:26:151:26:17

Got any butter left? We've always got butter on this show, obviously.

1:26:171:26:20

-How's the sauce doing?

-That's lovely.

1:26:201:26:22

As I said, the best bit, that.

1:26:221:26:24

Pasta's now cooked.

1:26:241:26:25

There we go.

1:26:261:26:28

So it doesn't take very long -

1:26:281:26:29

although we've got salmon mousse in there,

1:26:291:26:31

it doesn't take very long to cook.

1:26:311:26:33

Drain that off, then we can pop three of these on there.

1:26:331:26:38

Then we've got the lobster meat.

1:26:401:26:42

-There you go - seasoned?

-Yeah.

1:26:431:26:46

So we've got the nice lobster claw

1:26:461:26:48

and this is the idea of this, it's just...

1:26:481:26:51

It's all about the sauce as well.

1:26:511:26:54

You've got the lobster...

1:26:561:26:57

You can put star anise in there, which I've done in the past,

1:26:571:27:00

which is really nice, that aniseedy sort of flavour.

1:27:001:27:03

-A little bit of asparagus.

-That was on my heaven list as well.

1:27:041:27:08

That's the reason I'm putting it on, Miranda, you see?

1:27:081:27:11

I've done this a few times!

1:27:111:27:14

And then this stuff, which is rocket cress -

1:27:141:27:17

just a nice little bit of rocket cress over the top.

1:27:171:27:21

-Very simple.

-Wow!

-Grab some knives and forks, boys.

1:27:211:27:25

There you go - we've got a little bit...

1:27:251:27:27

CUTLERY CLATTERS

1:27:271:27:28

I'll do it, then!

1:27:281:27:30

-Sorry.

-There you go. A little drizzle of oil...

1:27:301:27:33

-Dive into that, tell us what you think.

-It looks amazing!

1:27:341:27:37

Bring over the glasses, guys.

1:27:371:27:39

SHE CHUCKLES

1:27:401:27:42

-There you go. What do you think?

-That is amazing.

1:27:421:27:45

-Happy with that?

-Yep!

1:27:451:27:46

You see, the secret is don't get rid of those lobster shells.

1:27:461:27:49

If you have any left over, keep them -

1:27:491:27:52

keep them in the fridge, crab shells,

1:27:521:27:54

all that kind of stuff.

1:27:541:27:55

-There you go.

-Thank you.

1:27:551:27:56

With it being the end of the show, Neil, you get that - there you go.

1:27:561:28:00

A decadent dish, there.

1:28:041:28:05

You don't have lobster every day, so when you do, it's worth savouring.

1:28:051:28:09

That's all we've got time for on today's Best Bites.

1:28:091:28:11

If you'd like to try to cook

1:28:111:28:12

any of the food you've seen on the programme,

1:28:121:28:14

you can find all the studio recipes on our website.

1:28:141:28:17

Go to bbc.co.uk/recipes

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There are loads of fantastic ideas on there for you to choose from.

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Have a great week and I'll see you soon - bye for now.

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