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Good morning! Sit back, relax and enjoy 90 minutes of sensational

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seasonal cooking! This is Saturday Kitchen Live. Welcome to the show!

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With me in the studio today are two men at the very top of the culinary

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tree! First, the man whose unrivalled skill and passion for

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seafood has helped him build a Michelin-starred Cornish restaurant

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empire. It's Nathan Outlaw. Next to him is a man who some say was

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present when the first wok was cast in iron! He's now one of the true

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cookery legends. It's Ken Hom of course! Good morning to you both.

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Nathan, what are you cooking for us today? Look at you two together! I

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know, I feel like the bodyguard. No problems with that today! Nathan,

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what are you making for us? I am making steamed bass and tomatoes

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with sardine and tomato ketchup. Is this with tinned sardines? Yes.

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OK. It is putting together something

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that everyone knows about with a fishy twist to it.

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And Ken, what's going into your wok today? A spicy squid with basil and

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chillies. There is a lot of spices in the side

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dish as well? Exactly, the corn. It is a Chinese dish with stir-fried

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fresh corn and chilli. So that's two super seafood dishes from our chefs

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to look forward to and we've got our line-up of fantastic foodie films

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from the BBC archive as well. There's hearty helpings from Rick

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Stein, Celebrity Masterchef and the Two Greedy Italians, Antonio

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Carluccio and Gennaro Contaldo. Now, our special guest today has got

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everyone a bit excited this morning. Not only is he one of the judges

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from the huge BBC talent show The Voice but he also happens to front a

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little band of his own. You may have heard of them, they're called the

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Kaiser Chiefs and they're pretty popular! Welcome to Saturday

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Kitchen, Ricky Wilson! # I predict a riot! We are playing

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one of your songs, kerching! Are you a foodie or not? Yeah. You kind of

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have to be. When you travel the world, you have

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to try things. Maybe I did not at first but now I

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am more open. You have been in Germany last month?

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A long time in Germany after The Voice. We went all around.

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Fantastic. You are coming to the UK, touring next year? Playing the

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festivals and early next year doing some arena dates.

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Now, of course, at the end of today's programme I'll cook either

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food heaven or food hell for Ricky. It'll either be something based on

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your favourite ingredient - food heaven, or your nightmare ingredient

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- food hell. It's up to our chefs and a few of our viewers to decide

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which one you get. So, what ingredient would your idea of food

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heaven be? Mint. In any form. In a mint chock chip. Anything.

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What about the dreaded food hell? Coriander.

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Sorry! Coriander! It bullies its way in and you know it is there.

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There you go. So it's either mint or coriander for

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Ricky. For food heaven, I'm going to use the mint in a couple of ways.

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First I'll make a mint stuffing for a shoulder of lamb along with

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hazelnuts, lemon and breadcrumbs. I'll make my own mint sauce to go

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with it and serve it all with Boulangere potatoes. Or Ricky could

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be having his food hell, coriander. I'll spatchcock a whole chicken then

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marinate it in yoghurt, coriander and various Indian spices. It's

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served with a fresh coconut and coriander salad and finished with a

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lime and palm sugar dressing. The thing is about the show, even if it

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is something you don't like, you look at it and think, I'll have some

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of that! You'll have to wait until the end of the show to find out

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which one he gets. If YOU'D like the chance to ask a question to any of

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our chefs today then call. A few of you will be able to put a question

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to us, live, a little later on. And if I do get to speak to you I'll

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also be asking if you want Ricky to face either food heaven or food

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hell. It will be food heaven, won't it! Are you hungry? Right, let's

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cook and we move from a rock star, Ricky, to a star from Rock, in

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Cornwall! It's Nathan Outlaw. So what are you making for us? So, we

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are doing sea bass that is steamed. We are making tomato ketchup. We

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have red onions, sardines, very good ones. We have a tomato sauce and a

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rocket salad with it. So this is steamed tomatoes with

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rosemary and garlic? Yes, it forms a trellis for the sea bass to sit on.

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This is line-caught. I will make sure that there are no scales on

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this. For the people at home, the main

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difference in this is the size? With the line-caught fish, it is the

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ethics of it. The way it has been caught. A lot of damage can happen

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to a sea bass if it has been net caught. The fisherman that catches

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this, is catching this line-caught. With one hook. With the proper

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method. They generally catch bigger ones?

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With the gear that they use, they can target certain sizes. That is a

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good thing. If we are going on about

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sustainability. This size has lived a good life and bred a few times,

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that is good for the sustainability. And it is in its prime in terms of

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eating. So definitely the best way to buy your sea bass.

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I will add salt and pepper and some oil and leave it to one side for the

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second. Now, we are making our nice tomato

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ketchup. This is for the garnish, though. And you are steaming the

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tomatoes? They are marinated with the garlic and the rosemary. They

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sit in there and basically form a base. What you create with the dish

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as well is that you get an instant sauce or a dressing. So the

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combination of the juices that come from the tomatoes with the juices

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from the bass and olive oil creates the dressing. So you don't need a

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sauce to go with it. It is really good.

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How long? The fish takes about six minutes. I better get at this! Do

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you want this fish skin side down? Up.

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There are some tomatoes in there as well.

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That is in there with a little bit of that. And we turn up the heat a

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bit. Gently steamed. You have been busy. There is a new

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back out? Yes. So, we have a new album and a new

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book. Ken is developing his new range of

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woks as well! And a new restaurant! Ken is developing his new range of

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This recipe is were your book? This is more about techniques. To

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encourage people to cook in different ways. By doing that

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encourage people to cook in open up the opportunities for the

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fish not as popular. What we are open up the opportunities for the

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trying to do is to encourage people to eat more sustainable species. So

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by learning simple techniques, so, I thought I would write a book about

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it. I think it has gone well, hopefully as many people will buy it

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as they buy the Kaiser Chiefs albums! I reckon your mum is like my

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mum, going around the books, swapping the book books so that mine

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are number one? We have all done it! You do it as well? ! Brilliant!

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Yeah. So, the garlic and rosemary chopped

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up and strengthled on the top of the tomatoes.

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Also, make sure you get ripe tomatoes for the flavour.

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And they will cook down nicely. Now we add the tomatoes and the onions

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in. I will show you the process. Obviously sweating this down will

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take a while. Now, sugar or here as well as the

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salt and the pepper? Yes. In the ketchup is the red onions,

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the tomatoes and a couple of garlic cloves. A bit of rosemary.

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Now, these are done. They are in the steamer and take about ten minutes?

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No, about six minutes. There is the vinegar in there as

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well. Now sugar. So you are looking for

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the sweet and the sour element of the ketchup. Then you leave that on

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to boil for 20 minutes. Until you get something that looks like this.

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That has been cooked down for 20 minutes.

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Pull the bay leaf out. That does not blitz up well. Then a tin of

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sardines. Tinned Saturday Ypreses? Yes.

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sardines. That is where it starts. The love of

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seafood. It starts Did you think that I had fruit frutti de mare when

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I was a kid? It started like this with a tin of sardines.

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I with a tin of sardines.

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Remember if you'd like to put a question to either Nathan or Ken

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then call us now on: Calls are charged at your standard network

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rate. So, in the blitzer? Yeah, we blitz that up.

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If you were busy enough with the book, you have another place, a pub

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in that neck of the woods? We announced to do a partnership with a

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brewery. A local brewery next to the restaurant in Rock.

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We are opening a pub called the Mariners'. It is a local favourite.

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My job is to look at beer and food combinations.

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A difficult job, that! It is a convenient five minutes' walk from

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the kitchen, so I will be getting out of service quickly at the end of

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the night. It is a new thing for me. But it is a lovely opportunity. I

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started in a pub when I was 14. So I am 36 now, so back to doing a pub,

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which is nice. So, the salad, the rocket with some

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olive oil and salt in there? Yes. With the ketchup, it lasts in the

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fridge. If you have a lot of tomatoes in the allotment, it is

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perfect to make. It will last two to three weeks.

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You said you wanted the ripe ones? Yes, the ones at the bottom of the

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salad tray in the fridge. This is perfect for it. If you want to be

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posh, you can pass it through a sieve. But this is fine with the

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texture. And salt? No salt. There is salt in

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the sardines. So we dress it with a little bit of

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olive oil and salt and pepper and then we need a nice sploj of the

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ketchup. You can put this through pasta.

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It does not have to be with fish. It is so easy to make your own

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ketchup. And great it you have left over tomatoes.

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Definitely. Once the fish is done. Lift it all up from the wok.

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Lift it off. We are going to drizzle the whole

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thing with a little bit of olive oil. That will create the dressing I

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was on about before. If you cannot find sea bass, the

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line-caught stuff, is hake a good alternative? Hake or a bream would

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be really, really nice with this. A bream fillet. But any sort of fish

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cooked this way is really nice. A lovely way of doing it. Nice and

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delicate. I feel a little under pressure as I

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have the Chinese Steamer man watching! All of that juice there is

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flavour. That is instant fish stock from the natural steaming process.

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That is what I am on about learning new techniques.

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So, tell us what that is again? Steamed bass and tomatoes with

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sardine and tomato ketchup. Easy as that.

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It looked fantastic. Very healthy as well. Yeah, you can't eat that! Dive

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into that one. Tell us what you think. The first dish of today.

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Interesting with the tomatoes steamed. Normally you would stick

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that under the grill or roast it in the oven.

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Yeah but this is easy to do as it is in mostly one pan.

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You can feel that doing you good. It helps you recharge the batteries.

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Nathan, I will adopt you, this is very good.

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We need some wine to go with this. We sent our wine expert, Susie

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Barrie for a day at the races in Suffolk this week. So let's see what

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she chose to go with Nathan's stunning steamed sea bass? I'm here

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at the Rowley Mile racecourse in Newmarket it is bang in the middle

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of the racing season. But I can not stick around to catch the action,

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there is work to be done. So let's find some wines to go with this

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morning's recipes. Nathan's freshly steamed sea bass

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with the tangy sardine ketchup is definitely a white wine dish. It

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needs something crisps and vibrant with lots of ripe juicy fruit. That

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combination of fresh fish with the tomatoes, garlic and the rocket, may

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lead obviously to a light and refreshing Italian white wine.

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Something like this Gavi from Piedmonte. But there is a rustic

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nature to the dish with the ketchup, so we need a wine with a rounder

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feel. So I have gone for a sunny southern French white, it is the

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Paul Mas Vermentino 2013. It is from the Languedoc. It is so well

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balanced and a brilliantly food-friendly wine.

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Almost all of the Vermentino is grown in France and Italy. This wine

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is perfect for the dish, reminiscent of the simple country cooking of

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both. It is made by Paul Mas, a big company in the south of France it

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producing a range of really good wines at affordable prices. Hmm,

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that smell is lifted and refreshing. So, the first consideration with

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Nathan's dish is to make sure that we highlight the delicious,

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delicately flavoured bass. That is exactly what this medium-body,

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refreshing wine does. There are flavours here of dried herbs and

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lemon zest. They pick up on the rosemary and the garlic in the

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recipe. But the most important thing about the wine is that it has enough

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fruit to cope with the biggest flavour on the plate. That is that

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fabulously tangy, sweet and sour tomato and sardine ketchup. Nathan,

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you have given a whole new meaning to the idea of serving ketchup with

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fish. Here is a wine that is more than happy to be drunk with both! I

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have to agree with her, the sardines work so well with that.

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What about the wine? She always gets it bang on. The acidity works well.

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It needs to be very cold, though? Yes. That is not ketchup! But it is

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great, though. Neural. I love it. I will be making that.

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Coming up, Ken has a couple of sizzling stir fries to share with

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us. Remind us what you're making today Ken? Stir-fried squid with

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chilli and basil. The hottest stir-fried corn on

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earth! Exactly. And don't forget you could ask Ken

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or Nathan a question if you call this number Standard call charges do

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apply of course. Right, let's tuck into our weekly helping from the

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world of Rick Stein. We're looking back at a vintage series where, like

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Nathan, he's championing Great British fish and he's travelling

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around the country trying the amazing produce available along our

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coastline. He's starting off today with some Chesil beach mackerel!

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Take a look. This matter of my journey takes me from West Bay to

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Whitstable, right along the south coast. What is memorable about the

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trip is the fact that the seafood is all to do with small boats and fresh

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catches. There are no big fish marketses along the coast but in

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conversation, everything is straight off the beach, more or less. Like

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here in Chesil Beach. We went out netting. You row out in a big

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semicircle, trailing a net as you go and come back to shore and haul in

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the catch. If you are lucky it is the greatest sense of anticipation

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going. After all of the hard work, there is

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a reward of seeing what is at the end of the net. They are not

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commercial fishermen. I asked them why they did

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commercial fishermen. I asked them done it since being young boys, it

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was the thing that brought them and their community together. Long may

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it last! This is why I am crazy about seafood. See how beautiful the

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mackerel are. I am thinking how to cook them. But how better for images

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of cooking to assail you, than being surrounded by jumping mackerel and

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dog fish like this! Now, I am going to grill mackerel. But I don't want

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to make it straightforward. I will devil it first. I like the idea of

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devilling fish it is British. A way of saying it is hot. In order to get

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that devilling flavour into the flesh of the mackerel, I will cut it

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with slashes but not deep but across the fish. Now to make the sauce, or,

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I suppose more correctly, it is a coating.

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It is not a sauce so much, it is a devilled butter, perhaps. A warm

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devilled butter. There are the ingredients. A tray on the side of

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the cooker. With a knob of butter into it. I thought, let's come up

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with the dish with all of ingredients, even on holiday. I have

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a couple of tea spoons of salt and butter in the pan. I add a teaspoon

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of everything else. Mustard, paprika, some cayenne, this is the

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devilled element, maybe a little more to make it very devilled.

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Ground black pepper, about a teaspoon. A teaspoon of everything.

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On and here ground coriander and cumin as well. Then a couple of

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teaspoons of sugar. A couple of good tablespoons of vinegar to give it

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tartness. There we are. Good tablespoon. Stir

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it together. The idea is just to melt the butter,

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not to cook it. That is enough. The idea is just to melt the butter,

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has a nice little forked tail on it, that one! Into the tray with the

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has a nice little forked tail on it, Turning it over. I will make sure

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as well. as well.

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And then straight under the grill. I do think that grilling mackerel is

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the best way of cooking it. A very nice salad to go with the mackerel

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will also go well with herring. This is simple, with tomatoes, sliced

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onion, mint and lemon juice. Nothing more. But it cuts through the grease

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and the oil very smartly. All you have to do is lay it out. Tomato,

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onion, the mint, a bit of salt and I like these tomatoes underripe. And

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finally, lemon juice. I promise you, you will not be disappointed. It is

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a fabulous way to do the mackerel. We have moved further on up Chesil

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Beach to Portland itself. Portland is famous for its stone. There is

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also something here that is great, that is squid. Around October, the

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squid swim close to the shore. Here they call them quiddles. I met Ken

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Lyneham at a fisherman's do in London. He said I had to try them.

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But where does the word quiddle come from? Being an island, we had

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peculiar names. Also coming from Ireland.

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Do you feel like you are still in Ireland? Not now. We have lost our

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identity. The traditional way on Portland, it is boiled and served

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with butter and eaten with fresh bread and butter. That is all. It

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was always a teatime dish. Ken put them in a batter pressure

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cooker for 20 minutes and served it up just with butter. I mentioned

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olive oil and garlic earlier on. It did not go down very well. But

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butter and this soft did not go down very well. But

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was utterly delicious. It is a bit like lobster! I think you could do

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other things with it. It is nice with the butter, don't get me wrong.

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But I think you could develop it the same way as lobster. You know, not

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sauces that smother things but it would take similar sauces to

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lobster. I may be worth experimenting with it

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cold. I think it would. In a salad it

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would be really lovely. With fine lettuce leaves and a bit of olive

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oil, perhaps? Oh, go on! Now, I promise you, you will like

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oil, perhaps? Oh, go on! Now, I Ken. It is modern but no garlic in

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it! Cut up the squid which have been cleaned. You can get them like this

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from any supermarket. Blanch French beans for a couple of minutes with

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some salt. Then put on olive oil and gently fry the squid with a bit of

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black pepper. Now, you take those off the heat and just keep them

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warm. Then make a salad dressing. Simply spoon out English mustard.

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White wine vinegar, and then lots of olive oil and now I will add

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hazelnut oil, that makes all of the difference. Then we add salt and we

:24:39.:24:43.

whisk. I cannot sea Ken doing this at home but my way, build up the

:24:44.:24:48.

salad by layering lamb's lettuce leaves and the squid, and then the

:24:49.:24:54.

green beans. It is so light and summery, this. Topped with springs

:24:55.:25:02.

of chervil and sliced white button mushroom mushrooms, a little more

:25:03.:25:06.

squid and a light drizzle with the dressing. I promise you, Ken, it is

:25:07.:25:11.

delicious. But I did like your quiddle as well. But this is a

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perfect starer. Quiddle? That's a new one on me too.

:25:19.:25:23.

I've never heard squid called that before. We do have some great fish

:25:24.:25:27.

available in the UK, and we also have some other ingredients that I

:25:28.:25:31.

believe are the best in the world. They don't get much better than

:25:32.:25:34.

these little things! They're Jersey Royal potatoes and they are coming

:25:35.:25:37.

into season right now. I'm going to use them to make a great summer soup

:25:38.:25:41.

with peas, asparagus and a few of these langoustine tails.

:25:42.:25:51.

Basically, this is everything all in one bowl. The best of seasonal

:25:52.:26:00.

produce. Mint... Yeah! We have chervil, and tar began. That is

:26:01.:26:05.

fantastic, basil and parsley. I will make a little pesto to add to the

:26:06.:26:12.

soup later on in the end. Now, the Jersey Royal potatoes, don't scrub

:26:13.:26:16.

them, just lightly wash them. Served with asparagus.

:26:17.:26:22.

We can utilise the tops for this. Clean these up. We make this into a

:26:23.:26:32.

lovely soup. Now, Rickie, a fellow Yorkshireman, brought up in Leeds.

:26:33.:26:36.

You didn't study music but wanted to be a graphic designer? I wanted to

:26:37.:26:41.

do something easy. I found that easy. I was drawn to subjects where

:26:42.:26:45.

you did not have to do much revising.

:26:46.:26:49.

Is that what it was? I think we all were.

:26:50.:26:54.

You were an art lecturer? I was. I did not want to leave college, so I

:26:55.:26:59.

stayed on to be a teacher for a year.

:27:00.:27:03.

How did the band start? It was not with the Kaiser Chiefs? No. We had a

:27:04.:27:08.

record deal. We lost that. But I'm glad we did. Without that, we would

:27:09.:27:13.

not have known. It is when you have the danger of something being taken

:27:14.:27:16.

away, that you know how much you wanted. That is what happened with

:27:17.:27:21.

the Kaiser Chiefs. We realised it was this or nothing. Was it three

:27:22.:27:26.

that turned into five? No, the same members of the previous incarnation.

:27:27.:27:31.

We just changed our Croats, put a hat on and wrote better songs.

:27:32.:27:36.

Where does the name come from? I know you are a footie fan? I am not,

:27:37.:27:41.

really. I like the World Cup, and everything that goes with the

:27:42.:27:44.

football but I am not a big fan. But the rest of the band love it. The

:27:45.:27:54.

name is from South Africa? Yes, and we stole it! That's where the name

:27:55.:28:00.

comes from! Was it 2005, 2006 where it really exploded for you? Pretty

:28:01.:28:05.

much. It was a shock for everyone but it was an overnight success. But

:28:06.:28:10.

it had taken us 15 years to get there. We went to America, the album

:28:11.:28:16.

came out in the UK. By the time we came back, we did not realise how

:28:17.:28:20.

big it had become. We went to play Glastonbury, we had a massive crowd.

:28:21.:28:26.

We were like, who are all of these people? How come they have heard of

:28:27.:28:37.

us? Well, it still is, had you have gone through different carnations,

:28:38.:28:41.

people have left the band and started the band. But to me you have

:28:42.:28:46.

found your feet. It is fantastic the new album. The

:28:47.:28:53.

found your feet. It is fantastic the same thing that happened earlier in

:28:54.:28:58.

our careers, Nick left us, we were doubting whether or not we could

:28:59.:29:04.

carry on. It was that underdog spirit that made us come back

:29:05.:29:09.

fighting. We wrote more songs and the fans were there for us. They

:29:10.:29:13.

bought the record. It was a fantastic opportunity.

:29:14.:29:18.

And then The Voice? We knew what we were doing there. Opportunities

:29:19.:29:22.

come, sometimes you think about it too much. You don't want to rock the

:29:23.:29:30.

boat, you don't want it to two away. So with The Voice, we decided to

:29:31.:29:35.

throw me on the TV and it worked. It has never been done before with

:29:36.:29:40.

fronting an Indie band and then going into something like that,

:29:41.:29:45.

generally pop? No. But I am grateful for the opportunity. It was a

:29:46.:29:49.

wildcard. I think that the BBC were brave to do it, actually, to put me

:29:50.:29:53.

on. They didn't know what I was going to be like. There was no

:29:54.:29:59.

psychological testing! It worked out well and it worked out well for

:30:00.:30:01.

everybody. So the new album, what is it called?

:30:02.:30:10.

It is called Education, Education, Education, War! So, go out and buy

:30:11.:30:14.

it. You are touring later in the year,

:30:15.:30:20.

mainly festivals? Yes. Festivals for the year, until the end of

:30:21.:30:28.

September. We are playing the John Peel tent in Glastonbury. There are

:30:29.:30:35.

loads of them there with us. It is all online somewhere.

:30:36.:30:39.

Now, I am making a pesto. It doesn't have parmesan in it? No.

:30:40.:30:44.

Good. We have a little bit of rapeseed oil

:30:45.:30:49.

as well. This is the soup it is almost done. The langoustines are

:30:50.:30:53.

cooking there. I made a fish stock with the tops of the langoustine

:30:54.:30:57.

that we have there. They are amazing. You can do it with the

:30:58.:31:03.

fresh water crayfish. It is nice and light. We blitz this and put it in

:31:04.:31:10.

at the last-minute. With all of the energy on stage, is

:31:11.:31:15.

there a possibility that Nathan can join you on stage and do some crowd

:31:16.:31:23.

surf? I saw some bigger boys who could catch him.

:31:24.:31:27.

It amazing me the energy you have, are they two-hour sets? Sometimes. I

:31:28.:31:33.

am glad I can do it. It is a release to me. It is really good, you should

:31:34.:31:37.

try it sometimes. It is like an extreme sport. But you can drink a

:31:38.:31:42.

beer while you are doing it! Who writes the songs now? How do you

:31:43.:31:48.

make an album, the Kaiser Chiefs album? When Nick was in the band he

:31:49.:31:52.

was in control of everything. He was the leader. When he left we had to

:31:53.:31:56.

step up. We went back to the beginning. We got into a room. We

:31:57.:32:01.

did not have a drummer either as Nick had left. I was playing drums,

:32:02.:32:06.

badly, really badly. We made a racket until it made sense. That is

:32:07.:32:11.

the way that we do it. Just be in a room doing what we do best.

:32:12.:32:16.

Like the tunes, several have become iconic, Roubi, Roubi, I Predict, A

:32:17.:32:27.

Riot, and a couple of others... Coming Home.

:32:28.:32:35.

-- Ruby, Ruby. We are really pleased with the album. People are hooking

:32:36.:32:39.

on to the record and believing in it. The word of mouth is pushing it

:32:40.:32:43.

forward. People are talking about it. It is great. It is getting a

:32:44.:32:47.

catalyst to get them to talk about it.

:32:48.:32:50.

So, where can people see you in the UK? Until next year, February we are

:32:51.:33:02.

doing the O 2. We are doing a gig in Leeds.

:33:03.:33:07.

That sounds good to me. Nathan can be there waiting for you

:33:08.:33:09.

in the crowd. If he does that, I will go...

:33:10.:33:16.

Cheers! Now, we have the simple soup. You can see the colour. It is

:33:17.:33:21.

everything in season, the langoustines, peas, asparagus,

:33:22.:33:28.

Jersey Royal potatoes,ed aishing, all in. And the last-minute there,

:33:29.:33:34.

you put in the purple sprouting broccoli. And the pesto. It is so

:33:35.:33:39.

fresh. It looks incredible. It just looks

:33:40.:33:46.

like it will mend you! Mend you! It is gorgeous.

:33:47.:33:50.

It is nice and light. And with the langoustines, it is one of the best

:33:51.:33:59.

fish and like with the Jersey Royal potatoes, one of the best things

:34:00.:34:02.

that we produce. So what will I be cooking for Ricky

:34:03.:34:07.

at the end of the show? It could be his food heaven, mint. I'm going to

:34:08.:34:11.

stuff a whole shoulder of lamb with mint, breadcrumbs, lemon zest and

:34:12.:34:13.

hazelnuts. It's roasted along with Boulangere potatoes and served with

:34:14.:34:16.

a home-made mint sauce. Or Ricky could be facing food hell, coriander

:34:17.:34:20.

and for this I have a coriander marinated chicken in mind. The

:34:21.:34:23.

chicken is spatch-cocked and left in a marinade of yoghurt, coriander,

:34:24.:34:26.

and lots of spices. It's griddled, roasted then served with a

:34:27.:34:29.

coriander, coconut and mizuna leaf salad. Some of our viewers and the

:34:30.:34:32.

chefs in the studio get to decide Ricky's fate today. But you'll have

:34:33.:34:37.

to wait until the end of the show to see the final result. Right, it's

:34:38.:34:40.

time to see what happened when the current batch of Celebrity

:34:41.:34:42.

Masterchef hopefuls had to cook lunch in a couple of top London

:34:43.:34:46.

restaurants. I think you know what's coming. I predict a riot! Today, the

:34:47.:35:04.

celebrities are being sent out in pairs to two London restaurants.

:35:05.:35:15.

Less and Matthew are heading to Boisdale in Canary Wharf. A

:35:16.:35:20.

restaurant renowned for its traditional Scottish cuisine. They

:35:21.:35:27.

are working under the head chef, Andy Rose.

:35:28.:35:32.

200 covers for lunch. We have absolutely loads to do, so we better

:35:33.:35:36.

get started. Comedian, Les, is in charge of the

:35:37.:35:43.

roasted loin of wild venison, served with garlic snails, Morells,

:35:44.:35:51.

mushroom puree, and finished in a marinated Douglas fir. 12 minutes in

:35:52.:35:57.

a pan with all of the garnish. OK? Use the timer or use the clock over

:35:58.:36:02.

there. Now the venison is with snails and Douglas fir. That is

:36:03.:36:06.

this. Wow! Right.

:36:07.:36:12.

Then the snails. I want a hot pan. Really smoking. The venison is

:36:13.:36:21.

cooked. We are doing it for about 30 seconds on each side. And just baste

:36:22.:36:28.

it. It is cooked, we don't need to do anything else. So add on the

:36:29.:36:33.

Morells and three snails. Just warming it up. Don't overcook them.

:36:34.:36:37.

The Morells are beautiful at the moment. OK? Yep.

:36:38.:36:43.

Freshly chopped parsley. Let's plate up.

:36:44.:36:49.

This is where we slow down. We don't want to rush the presentation. Take

:36:50.:37:01.

the venison... Arrange it around the spinach finish it with a little bit

:37:02.:37:07.

of our Douglas fir. That is how I expect it from the

:37:08.:37:12.

boys and how I expect it from you, OK? OK.

:37:13.:37:17.

Cricketer, Matthew, has been put in charge of the organic lamb cut

:37:18.:37:23.

let's, topped with wild garlic mousse, served with a potato

:37:24.:37:29.

galette, and a classic sauce, made with port and redcurrant jelly.

:37:30.:37:35.

Not too much heat. A take two cut let's, they are wrapped in a

:37:36.:37:40.

crepinette it will explode if we overheat it. So seal it in. With a

:37:41.:37:45.

little salt and pepper. That is melting together lovely. That is all

:37:46.:37:50.

you want. If these start to go off colour, we have to start again.

:37:51.:38:03.

Every plate has to be on the button. Eight minutes exactly. Do I have a

:38:04.:38:07.

stop watch or timer? You have to count and look at the clock when

:38:08.:38:13.

putting stuff in. A lovely warm galette. Try to keep

:38:14.:38:17.

it central. That's it. OK? Lovely. It looks

:38:18.:38:24.

beautiful. Matthew, it is straightforward but

:38:25.:38:28.

it is all about the timing. Good luck. Thank you very much,

:38:29.:38:31.

chef. The job's a bud one! Across town,

:38:32.:38:39.

Speech and Joe have arrived at Spice Market. A restaurant inspired by the

:38:40.:38:43.

street food of south-east Asia in the heart of London's Chinatown.

:38:44.:38:51.

Good morning Speech and Joe. I am Peter Lloyd, the executive chef. We

:38:52.:38:58.

have a busy lunch with 80 covers, so a challenge. Let's crack on.

:38:59.:39:04.

Joe's dish is grilled rib-eye steak in a soy marinade, served with

:39:05.:39:10.

garlic and sesame wilted bok choi and a coriander dressing.

:39:11.:39:15.

Joe, have you cooked steak before? Not with these ingredients and

:39:16.:39:22.

Joe, have you cooked steak before? for 80 people! All different types

:39:23.:39:27.

of steak to be cooked medium, well done, rare. I will do my best.

:39:28.:39:32.

We are going to be rushing it with the marinade. When we turn it over

:39:33.:39:36.

it gives a beautiful crossbar mark. When it turns over, I want you

:39:37.:39:41.

basting it again. There we have the beautiful bar mark. I don't want to

:39:42.:39:47.

see tram lines but countries-cross. Confusing.

:39:48.:39:51.

Marinade the steaks twice on both sides. It smells good. I'm hungry! I

:39:52.:39:59.

want them to rest for two to three minutes. It makes it more tender for

:40:00.:40:04.

when the customer eats it. We want a nice line of the bok choi. Cut the

:40:05.:40:11.

steak into slices, put it on to the plate like so. A nice line straight

:40:12.:40:18.

down the middle. The main bit to get wrong is not cooking the steak

:40:19.:40:23.

properly. You have to make sure it is cooked to the way that the guest

:40:24.:40:27.

wants it. If they don't like it, they send it back. There is a lot of

:40:28.:40:31.

pressure on you today. OK.

:40:32.:40:35.

Speech is in charge of the Nonya seafood laksa. Finished with a

:40:36.:40:40.

coconut foam. So this is a hand-caught diver

:40:41.:40:44.

scallop. We have to prepare them today. Get the shell open with the

:40:45.:40:50.

knife, scraping it down to reveal where the scallop is. Then we can

:40:51.:40:54.

open the scallop. Then pull it up and around. That is

:40:55.:41:00.

what I want ready for the laksa. So you are 20 of these to prepare. I

:41:01.:41:11.

am trusting you to do this. Argh! Wow! Look at that! Well done.

:41:12.:41:23.

So, with the fish we have halibut, the diver scallop and a tiger prawn.

:41:24.:41:29.

Don't shake the pan to start off with. I want caramelisation on

:41:30.:41:33.

there. While that is cooking heat up the laksa broth. Noodles into the

:41:34.:41:38.

boiling water. Put it in the oven. That cooks for a minute. Pour it

:41:39.:41:47.

over the laksa. Then we put in the fish, the scallop, the halibut and

:41:48.:41:54.

the prawn like so. We have mint, Thai basil, coriander and coconut

:41:55.:41:57.

foam. Then we are going to finish it off

:41:58.:42:00.

like so. Then we are going to finish it off

:42:01.:42:06.

That is exactly what I need you to recreate for lunch service.

:42:07.:42:10.

That is exactly what I need you to be straightforward with one but with

:42:11.:42:11.

the service, it will be all the service, it will be all about

:42:12.:42:20.

co-ordination, with the numbers OK? You can see if Speech and the others

:42:21.:42:24.

survive the experience in about 20 minutes or so. Still to come this

:42:25.:42:28.

morning on Saturday Kitchen Live. The Two Greedy Italians are touring

:42:29.:42:31.

Italy cooking the food of their childhoods. Gennaro is treating

:42:32.:42:33.

Antonio to ricotta dumplings in tomato sauce. Just like his mamma

:42:34.:42:37.

used to make! It may be the Eurovision Song Contest tonight but

:42:38.:42:39.

there's an even bigger EGGs-travaganza here on BBC 1 first.

:42:40.:42:45.

Yes it's the Saturday kitchen omelette challenge. Will we be

:42:46.:42:56.

offering our CONGRATULATIONS to Ken Hom for finally making a decent

:42:57.:42:59.

omelette? Or will Nathan face his own personal WATERLOO and end up in

:43:00.:43:03.

the bin. Either way we'll be MAKING OUR MINDs UP, live, a little later

:43:04.:43:05.

on. ALL SPEAK AT ONCE

:43:06.:43:10.

Yeah! And will Ricky be facing food heaven, mint stuffed lamb with

:43:11.:43:12.

Boulangere potatoes and mint sauce? Or food hell, coriander marinated

:43:13.:43:15.

chicken with coconut and coriander salad? So let's cook our next recipe

:43:16.:43:19.

and the woks are out which can mean only one thing. Ken Hom's here! So

:43:20.:43:27.

what are you making Ken? Well, it is a Thai squid dish with chillies. I

:43:28.:43:33.

start you working on the peas. You want me to pod them, all, then?

:43:34.:43:41.

Thanks, Ken! The squid, I am simply opening it up like this.

:43:42.:43:47.

I think people find squid really difficult to work with but it isn't.

:43:48.:43:52.

It is a fast food to cook. It can be really delicious if you don't

:43:53.:43:55.

overcook it. Is it both the preparation and the

:43:56.:44:00.

cooking? Yes. People make a mistake the first time

:44:01.:44:04.

that they cook it and never make it again? Right. But people think it

:44:05.:44:10.

gooey and slimy but once you learn how to cook the squid, it is

:44:11.:44:15.

wonderful. We have a technique used in China, Asia, and in Thailand, you

:44:16.:44:21.

score the squid a little bit on each side. It make it is tender and gives

:44:22.:44:26.

it a nice shape. So we have Ricky on the show. You

:44:27.:44:31.

know what the Kaiser Chiefs are, you did know of them before? No, I never

:44:32.:44:37.

had heard of them. Were you a modern, a rocker or a...

:44:38.:44:48.

? I was a hippy. A hippy? ! Well, my first series

:44:49.:44:54.

went out 30 years ago. Can you believe that.

:44:55.:44:57.

What was it like? It was frightening. I was traumatised. You

:44:58.:45:02.

have to remember doing television was different from now. You had to

:45:03.:45:07.

receipt how many tablespoons of this and how much this weighs. I never

:45:08.:45:11.

cooked like that. As you know... But chefs don't.

:45:12.:45:18.

No. I taught chefs, so it was a very difficult process for me to do it.

:45:19.:45:31.

And you had to look to the camera, I would tell the chefs, pay attention

:45:32.:45:37.

to what I am doing here! It has been such a busy career for you. You have

:45:38.:45:41.

restaurants opening up all over the world.

:45:42.:45:45.

Well... More or less. How is the place in Brazil doing? It is doing

:45:46.:45:49.

well. We are getting bookings for during the World Cup. We are

:45:50.:45:53.

thrilled with it. We have had a lot of good critics about the food. It

:45:54.:45:57.

is very, very different. Especially for the Brazilians, who are not used

:45:58.:46:01.

to Asian food like people here in this country.

:46:02.:46:05.

So the World Cup is coming in four weeks? It is close! Is the Stadium

:46:06.:46:14.

built yet? Well... The main stadiums are all ready. But I think that they

:46:15.:46:19.

are just getting bad press. I am confident.

:46:20.:46:22.

Now Brazil has a huge Japanese community? Our chefs are Japanese.

:46:23.:46:27.

They are really good. Brazil has over 1 million Japanese

:46:28.:46:33.

living in Brazil. The largest Japanese population outside of

:46:34.:46:39.

Japan. Can you imagine that? I didn't know that.

:46:40.:46:43.

It is amazing. So the Brazilians know sushi but not

:46:44.:46:49.

other Asian foods. They are discovering Chinese and Vietnamees

:46:50.:46:53.

and Thai for the first time. They love Thai. And Brazilians don't eat

:46:54.:46:59.

spicy food, so we are converting them to the dark side. Not like

:47:00.:47:03.

people in this country. Boy, the people in this country love spicy

:47:04.:47:07.

foods! We have a fair amount of chillies going in here.

:47:08.:47:12.

Yes, this is what I am making. I am chopping up shallots with garlic as

:47:13.:47:15.

well. And the thing is when I try to tell

:47:16.:47:21.

a lot of people who are cooking this kind of cuisine as well, is don't

:47:22.:47:31.

chop the ingrowned yentas too fine, not only will it burn but it loses

:47:32.:47:36.

the texture that is important. The chillies here are fantastic --

:47:37.:47:40.

ingredients. Here are the Thai chillies.

:47:41.:47:47.

These are for the corn. So we are leaving the seeds if for

:47:48.:47:52.

these ones? Yes. We want everybody in the audience to gasp! These are

:47:53.:48:00.

the little chillies. The Australians call them Scuds, as they are like

:48:01.:48:12.

Scud missiles! Now, we have Thai basil? Yes.

:48:13.:48:20.

There is a more aniseedy flavour it is more powerful. So you have to get

:48:21.:48:25.

this hot. Always get the wok really hot before adding the oil. We are

:48:26.:48:30.

adding a little bit of oil and then adding the aromatics.

:48:31.:48:36.

Will we see more Ken Hom books? Well, some publishers are trying to

:48:37.:48:48.

get me to write my memoirs, exposing food! I am open to that.

:48:49.:48:53.

It will be an interesting chapter, you and the hippies! Well, we will

:48:54.:49:00.

not go into that. I would get into trouble. You want to stir-fry that

:49:01.:49:07.

quickly over incredibly hot heat to get the wonderful grilled smoky

:49:08.:49:11.

flavour. You want to finish that off with a little bit of salt and pepper

:49:12.:49:16.

with fish sauce and the lovely peas for the colour.

:49:17.:49:26.

And the sweetcorn is cooked separately.

:49:27.:49:31.

And the oyster sauce, with a little pinch of sugar, why, because of all

:49:32.:49:35.

of the chillies. How do you make oyster sauce? It is

:49:36.:49:40.

oysters that are stewed. It is a long process. A man

:49:41.:49:45.

discovered it when he left the oysters in the wok. When he went

:49:46.:49:51.

away and then came back, the whole thing had turned into a sauce.

:49:52.:50:00.

How long for? A few hours! He founded a billion dollar company!

:50:01.:50:12.

Then we have the chillies and the basil in.

:50:13.:50:19.

So, they are fermented oysters? Yes. OK, now, everyone here will be

:50:20.:50:26.

coughing, like you. The chillies and then the corn. All it needs is salt

:50:27.:50:32.

and pepper. You are going to put sugar in here? Yes a little bit. So

:50:33.:50:39.

with the caramelisation is needed. It adds a little flavour to add in

:50:40.:50:41.

here. That is it.

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I discovered this when I was filming with Ching. This little lady took

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the corn and stir-fried it in seconds. It was wonderful.

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So in there is salt, pepper, sugar, chilli, nothing else? No. As simple

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as that. Where is this going? Oh, yes, if it

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gets a little dry, add some stock. That keep it is moist.

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You are treating this old codger very well.

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OK, we put the corn in here. Lovely. Look at that.

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And I love the combinations of the fermented flavours of the fish

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sauce, the spiciness of the chillies, the garlic, you can just

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smell that... It smells of Thailand. Is this one from China? One dish

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from China, one dish from Thailand? Exactly. Two different spicy

:51:50.:51:54.

spiciness which I know that people love.

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There you go. Tell us what it is again? It is stir-fried squid with

:51:59.:52:08.

chilli and basil. From Ken, the Hippy! Now there is a

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vision. You get to dive into this and tell

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us what you think of this. This looks plain but they have a

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kick. It will wake you up.

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Hmm. They are fantastic.

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It takes literally minutes. Can you do that with cuttle fish?

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Yes! Don't tell him too much! Right, we need some wine to go with this.

:52:58.:53:01.

Our expert, Susie Barrie has been to Newmarket in Suffolk this week. But

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what did she choose what did she choose to go with Ken's

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spicy seafood stir-fry? Ken's colourful Chinese feast of stir

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Fridayed squid and sweetcorn is bursting with oriental flavour. It

:53:16.:53:22.

comes as no surprise, that you need something highly aromatic to drink

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with it. One thing that springs to mind is this Torrontes. But it is a

:53:28.:53:35.

dry wine. As the chilli in the dish packs a punch, we ideally need

:53:36.:53:39.

something with a bit of sweetness. So I am going for another grape

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variety that works brilliantly with Asian food, it is of course

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Riesling. It is the off-dry Eclipse Riesling 2012 from Germany.

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The home from home Riesling here is from Germany. The difference when it

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is grown in new world countries, as this one is, like Chili, means that

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they are more limey, it makes them ideal for dishes like Ken's. The

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fresh limes are jumping out of the glass. So we need a wine to cope

:54:23.:54:27.

with the heat of the dish. That mean as combination of refreshing

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acidity, a touch of sweetness and lots of ripe fruit. All of which the

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wine has. There are credit Rick flavours in the glass to work well

:54:37.:54:40.

with the green elements of the dish, the Thai basil and the peas. And

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then finally, it is a lifting and refreshing wine, that means it will

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not overwhelm the tender squid. So, Ken it is a glass of Riesling today,

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for your sensational stir-fried squid. Cheers! Cheers indeed. It is

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disappearing rapidly. The sweetcorn are fantastic.

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What do you think of the wine? Am not crazy about Riesling but this is

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nice as it is fruity. So, the German wine, Riesling, not

:55:16.:55:22.

so much but this, yes? Yes. I think that this compliments it

:55:23.:55:25.

very well. She knows her stuff. It is a lit bit

:55:26.:55:31.

of a fire fire-extinguisher as well. I told you it is hot! Right, let's

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get back to Celebrity Masterchef where the teams are helping out with

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lunch service at two top London restaurants. Let the carnage, sorry

:55:40.:55:50.

cooking, begin! Take a look. It's mid-day. Over at Canary Wharf, for

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Les and Matthew, it is time for service.

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Listen up, two venison and three lamb. How long do you need, please,

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it is just you two guys? Five minutes, chef. Brilliant, five

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minutes, everyone on the passe. It is crucial that Les's venison and

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Matthew's lamb dishes are ready at the same time.

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One minute, Les, come on. Snow Matthew is nearly here. You did say

:56:32.:56:35.

five. Matthew is here, Les. Come on, let's

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go. It is your first check. I have nothing here. It is not good enough.

:56:42.:56:46.

It will be another five minutes. Sorry.

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This will be ruined. Quick, quick, quick! It is too much sauce. You

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have to replate. OK.

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We have to go. That was slow. You can tell it has not been done by

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a chef, however the meat was cooked perfectly.

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Over in Chinatown, the service is about to start for Speech and Joe.

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OK, boys and girls are we ready? Check-on, one laksa, one rib-eye,

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check on. Yes, chef. Let's get the first ones right. If

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we get it wrong now, it will be wrong later.

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Just be more delicate when you take the fish out. I don't want to see it

:57:46.:57:50.

break up on you. Nice colour on the fish. Beautiful presentation.

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break up on you. Nice colour on the it like that for the rest of the

:57:54.:57:57.

service, it will be great. Yes, chef. It feels good. I have to keep

:57:58.:58:01.

it like that. It is the start of service but

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showing really good signs. Joe, how long for the rib-eye now? Two

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minutes. Joe, let's make sure that the bok

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choi is a nice line. OK, this can go.

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Service, please. Rib-eye, well done. Goo girl, two at the same time.

:58:31.:58:35.

Great job, Speech. This is really good. Thank you, chef.

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I ordered the laksa, it is a rich flavour. I enjoyed it very much.

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Back at Canary Wharf, Les has more orders than he can handle.

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Four venison. Can orders than he can handle.

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please. Yes, chef. Matthew continues to impress.

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Matthew, the lamb is superb. Well done.

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Thank you, chef. All right, Les. We are banging it

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now. Six coming up. Two more on order.

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Les is juggling eight orders of venison.

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I think that I need a hand, chef. That was tough. It all came at once.

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I was thinking we will get two out, then have another four 12 minutes

:59:32.:59:41.

later but... OK, let's go. A new order.

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There you go, chef. Very good. Matthew. A really good

:59:45.:59:50.

service from you. That is much better, mate. Let's

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sauce it and send it. Much better. Les, again, not one plate made it on

:00:02.:00:10.

time. Really? Not one. OK, guys thank you very much. The

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service is over. It is the first time in a professional kitchen. We

:00:14.:00:18.

service is over. It is the first are doing big numbers down here. It

:00:19.:00:22.

is a big wake-up call. Les panicked. He certainly was slammed. He was

:00:23.:00:27.

behind on every table. But saying that everything was cooked. Cooked

:00:28.:00:32.

perfectly. I thought Matthew did a great job. He has been composed,

:00:33.:00:38.

writing notes. The timing was good. Everything was spot on. I did not

:00:39.:00:40.

have to get involved. Everything was spot on. I did not

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Back in Chinatown, the restaurant is at capacity.

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We are reaching peak now. That was the warm up, this is the real deal

:00:49.:00:53.

now, yes? Yes, chef. Joe! I don't know what is happening.

:00:54.:00:59.

You are giving me a medium rare? Yes.

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After that, two mediums and one medium rare. That is four steaks all

:01:05.:01:09.

together. Yes, chef. Joe, what is next? I am not trying

:01:10.:01:15.

to be arrogant but if you don't answer me, I don't know you have

:01:16.:01:20.

heard me. Sorry, chef. Give me a time on the two rib-eyes

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well done. Two minutes, chef.

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You always say two minutes. I need the truth. OK, maybe four.

:01:31.:01:34.

Two well donees? I'm not sure. No, it is not.

:01:35.:01:40.

Joe, that has been on 20 minutes for the two well donees. We should be

:01:41.:01:42.

seeing them now, yeah? Yes. the two well donees. We should be

:01:43.:01:49.

As Joe struggles to cook the steaks to order, the customers are being

:01:50.:01:53.

kept waiting. Oh! Joe, you are currently running

:01:54.:02:05.

at 28 minutes for two rib-eyes! Joe, we got there in the end. It was a

:02:06.:02:10.

struggle. Let's go. It has been over half an hour. Send apologies.

:02:11.:02:16.

Please, don't tell me more mistakes. The last order. One laksa, one

:02:17.:02:24.

rib-eye. Yes, chef. Speech, I am impressed. You are

:02:25.:02:33.

doing a great job. Thank you, chef. Ready to go. Hallelujah, Joe, we did

:02:34.:02:40.

it! Thank you, chef. It makes a difference when you get

:02:41.:02:45.

it right. It was a roller-coaster. Joe struggled and was all over the

:02:46.:02:49.

place. He lost his co-ordination. On what looked like a simple dish, it

:02:50.:02:54.

seemed a lot for him to engage with. Overall, Speech impressed me the

:02:55.:02:55.

most. Overall, Speech impressed me the

:02:56.:03:00.

important. Consistently she delivered the better food.

:03:01.:03:04.

Service may be over but there is no let-up for the celebrities.

:03:05.:03:08.

Service may be over but there is no return to MasterChef rids.

:03:09.:03:10.

Service may be over but there is no Next week the celebrities are back

:03:11.:03:19.

Service may be over but there is no in the MasterChef HQ.

:03:20.:03:31.

It'll be time to eliminate one of them from the competition. Right,

:03:32.:03:35.

it's time to answer a few of your foodie questions. Each caller will

:03:36.:03:38.

also help us decide what Ricky will be eating at the end of the show. So

:03:39.:03:43.

who do we have first on the line? Can I have a recipe for fried rice

:03:44.:03:46.

and chicken and prawn. So, rice, cooked cold. I think you

:03:47.:03:52.

should have the chicken finally diced and uncooked prawns finally

:03:53.:03:57.

diced. It will cook fast. Heat up the wok. Add oil and garlic.

:03:58.:04:02.

Groundnut oil? Yes. Get it hot. Throw in the rice. Salt

:04:03.:04:09.

and pepper. Drizzled with sesame oil and eggs, chicken, just throw the

:04:10.:04:13.

whole thing in. And cook it quickly? Yes.

:04:14.:04:19.

What dish would you like to see, food heaven or food hell? Heaven.

:04:20.:04:26.

Judith from Manchester, are you there? She has gone. Hello, I am

:04:27.:04:33.

here. What question do you have for us?

:04:34.:04:38.

Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me. What is the question? I have two

:04:39.:04:45.

pieces of plaice. Is there anything I can do with them? Get yourself an

:04:46.:04:52.

onion. A nice big dish to hold bust both of the fish. Put sliced onions

:04:53.:05:02.

in the tray. Put the fish on top. Pour in cider, West Country,

:05:03.:05:06.

obviously. Put it through the oven. While it is cooking get butter, add

:05:07.:05:13.

anchovies, herbs from the garden or whatever you can get hold of. When

:05:14.:05:19.

it is cooked, about 15 to 20 minutes, add the butter, put it back

:05:20.:05:24.

in, by the time the butter has melted, put it on the table and eat

:05:25.:05:27.

away. Sounds great that one.

:05:28.:05:31.

What dish would you like to see at the end of the show? Definitely,

:05:32.:05:35.

heaven. Janine, what is your question for

:05:36.:05:40.

us? I would like to speak to Ken, please.

:05:41.:05:43.

Everybody does. Fire away. I would like to know how to cook

:05:44.:05:52.

liver. Well, it depends on the size. Never overcook it. If you are

:05:53.:05:58.

stir-frying it, get the wok hot. Add oil and ginger into the oil. Fry it

:05:59.:06:04.

really hot until it is just coated on the outside. Add some Sichuan

:06:05.:06:12.

peppercorn, or chillies, flakes if you like, that is perfect.

:06:13.:06:18.

Would it be chicken liver or calves liver? Any. But cut it into small

:06:19.:06:22.

strips. What dish would you like to see?

:06:23.:06:28.

Heaven, please. Are you paying these people? They are all your friends!

:06:29.:06:34.

Amanda from Hertfordshire, are you there? I am, what.

:06:35.:06:42.

What is your question, please? I have a question for Ken Hom.

:06:43.:06:46.

I have a duck in my freezer, I would like to know how to cook it

:06:47.:06:51.

Chinese-style. This is complicated.

:06:52.:06:57.

That you out the duck. Rub it with salt and five spice powder. Let it

:06:58.:07:03.

stay overnight in the fridge. The next day steam it. It will take

:07:04.:07:08.

about an hour-and-a-half to steam it. Let it cool again. Then before

:07:09.:07:15.

you serve it, fry it in very hot oil until it is crispy.

:07:16.:07:19.

What about the bicycle pump thing? That is for Peking duck. That is

:07:20.:07:24.

different. This is more simple. There you go, I have been told. What

:07:25.:07:30.

would you like to see at the end of the show, food heaven or food hell?

:07:31.:07:34.

Definitely food heaven. Gary from Essex, what is your

:07:35.:07:38.

question for us? I would like to ask Ken, I have green aubergines. I want

:07:39.:07:43.

to know what to do with them how do they differ from the purple variety?

:07:44.:07:49.

That is the Thai aubergine. Use them in curries. Cook them with the curry

:07:50.:07:53.

and I have seen them, I eat them a lot in Thailand. I use them when

:07:54.:07:57.

cooking in Thailand. They are delicious. They are different from

:07:58.:08:01.

the aubergines that we know. They don't son up the oil or the

:08:02.:08:04.

moisture. So they are popped in the curry for

:08:05.:08:13.

what? Until they are soft and done. About five minutes? Yes.

:08:14.:08:19.

What dish would you like to see at the end of the show? Well, I am

:08:20.:08:37.

vegetarian, so not really fussed. It's time for the Omelette

:08:38.:08:40.

Challenge. Paul Rankin is still sat in the middle of our pan with 17.52

:08:41.:08:44.

seconds. It's a miss match today if ever I saw one! Nathan, you're in

:08:45.:08:48.

third with 18.88 and Ken is on the handle of the pan with 1 minute and

:08:49.:08:55.

8 seconds! Nathan can you go faster? Now, as it is the Eurovision, we are

:08:56.:09:01.

getting you in the mood with a change to the usual Omelette

:09:02.:09:08.

Challenge music... I don't know how this is going to go down?

:09:09.:09:21.

MUSIC: Bucks Fizz singing Making Your Mind

:09:22.:09:38.

Up. I think Eurovision may be nona

:09:39.:09:43.

minute! You need a wok, don't you? Yes.

:09:44.:09:49.

. It's heat. # You're making your mind up! We are

:09:50.:09:54.

running out of music in a minute! I will not serve it raw.

:09:55.:10:00.

I know you watch the Eurovision Song Contest? Yes, with a lot of wine!

:10:01.:10:05.

You have to watch it tonight, there is a guy going around in a hamster

:10:06.:10:10.

wheel. It is proper tripped out. Fantastic.

:10:11.:10:13.

Really? Yeah. It is still playing the music!

:10:14.:10:22.

# Making your mind up! APPLAUSE

:10:23.:10:24.

Don't applaud it. I have only three minutes to make my dish now at the

:10:25.:10:32.

end of the show! Well, it is definitely cooked.

:10:33.:10:37.

Chef, that is pretty good, that. Not bad, is it.

:10:38.:10:42.

He's been practising. Do you think you beat your time of

:10:43.:10:48.

one hour and three seconds? I hope so.

:10:49.:10:56.

You did it... In 1. 14. 72. You didn't.

:10:57.:11:05.

Nathan? Did you beat your time? I don't know.

:11:06.:11:10.

You did it in 20. 36. However, both of you are going in here! So

:11:11.:11:30.

You did it in 20. 36. However, both Ricky get his food heaven, mint

:11:31.:11:32.

stuffed lamb with Boulangere potatoes and mint sauce? Or his

:11:33.:11:35.

hell, coriander marinated chicken with coriander and coconut salad?

:11:36.:11:38.

Nathan and Ken will make their choices whilst we hook up with those

:11:39.:11:41.

two greedy Italians, Antonio Carluccio and Gennaro Contaldo.

:11:42.:11:44.

Today, Gennaro is cooking Antonio a dish that his mother used to make

:11:45.:11:48.

for him when he was a little boy. It brings a tear to his eye! Enjoy

:11:49.:12:01.

this. Great stuff! This particular dish brings a lot of memories back.

:12:02.:12:14.

This is Ricotta dumpling. . This brings back nice memories.

:12:15.:12:26.

So, first I have the flour. That is 200 grams. Then 220 grams of

:12:27.:12:34.

Ricotta. Tell me when... OK. Then only use the yolk of the egg.

:12:35.:12:44.

One, two, three. Now with the Rick Otto, pass me a

:12:45.:12:47.

fork, please. Here.

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That is good. Now I mix it a little bit. The eggs all together.

:12:53.:13:07.

That is good. Now I mix it a little -- Ricotta. Then 20

:13:08.:13:09.

That is good. Now I mix it a little parmesan and a touch of nutmeg, a

:13:10.:13:13.

pinch of salt and pepper and the parmesan and a touch of nutmeg, a

:13:14.:13:20.

tool, your hands. Very delicately.

:13:21.:13:21.

You can see that Very delicately.

:13:22.:13:36.

It is such an easy dish to make. That's it. Very nice.

:13:37.:13:45.

That's enough. That's enough. Then a little flour on top.

:13:46.:13:51.

Gnocchi. And let me show you how quick is the

:13:52.:13:57.

sauce. Two tins of tomato. Three cloves of garlic. One chillies and a

:13:58.:14:06.

bunch of basil. Very finally chopped? Roughly

:14:07.:14:12.

chopped, Antonio. Have you done the chilli? Yes, it is here.

:14:13.:14:18.

The frying pan is hot with olive oil. Lovely and hot. Now I put in

:14:19.:14:23.

the garlic and the chilli. It is in a flash. Quick. Then the sauce, the

:14:24.:14:34.

tomatoes. Come on. Now, it will cook for about

:14:35.:14:41.

three to four minutes, the gnocchi in the boiling water.

:14:42.:14:47.

Then I chop the basil roughly. Shall I grate the parmesan for you.

:14:48.:14:56.

The smell is very good, Gennaro. You are shocked? Yes.

:14:57.:15:07.

The smell, Antonio, I close my eyes, I can see my mum, I can see my

:15:08.:15:13.

sister and me running around. Even the cats and the dog.

:15:14.:15:17.

My goodness. You have tears in your eyes.

:15:18.:15:21.

I do. It is very touching.

:15:22.:15:29.

It is not tears, it is a joy. My little babies, they start to come

:15:30.:15:33.

up. Every single one. It is also done

:15:34.:15:41.

with the potato. I have never had it this way before.

:15:42.:15:58.

I want to taste one. And now with the parmesan.

:15:59.:16:06.

Hmm I can understand that you remember your mother with that.

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The smell and the flavour, a pleasure.

:16:11.:16:15.

Hmm. Cooking for the family was the most important thing in the world

:16:16.:16:23.

for our mothers. But in the 1950s, Italy got richer.

:16:24.:16:33.

Many housewives went to work in the factories. And working mamas have no

:16:34.:16:38.

time to make the tortellini. Then in the '60s, a clever baker's

:16:39.:16:45.

son from Verona, invented a machine to mass produce the little parcels

:16:46.:16:53.

of love. Now, he is very famous, and a

:16:54.:17:00.

millionaire! We went to see one of his factories.

:17:01.:17:27.

They use 800,000 eggs a day. But I am sceptical about the end results.

:17:28.:17:32.

I want to see it and taste it. In the old days, Mr Rana delivered

:17:33.:17:39.

the pasta on a Little Mo pend. He is now the biggest fresh pasta producer

:17:40.:17:43.

in Europe. I am happy to present and to

:17:44.:17:47.

introduce to you, Giovanni Rana! Now, maybe if you are hungry, we can

:17:48.:18:10.

go to taste. . I am hungry.

:18:11.:18:16.

Me too! I put my hands up, Mr Rana is cooking? Of course! Senor Rana

:18:17.:18:25.

has a chain of 21 restaurants serving his fresh pasta. Now,

:18:26.:18:31.

tortellini has become a cheap quick lunch.

:18:32.:18:42.

But the proof is in the tasting. The pasta is remarkably good. The

:18:43.:19:00.

difference between this and the hand-made, is the love that is

:19:01.:19:03.

missing. I think that they are OK but I still

:19:04.:19:09.

prefer those you make at home. Nowadays, fast food places are

:19:10.:19:13.

springing up all over Italy, could this be the beginning of the end for

:19:14.:19:23.

mama's cooking? We'll have more from Gennaro and Antonio on next week's

:19:24.:19:27.

show. Right, it's time to find out whether Ricky is facing either food

:19:28.:19:30.

heaven or food hell. Your food heaven would be mint which I'll use

:19:31.:19:34.

to stuff a shoulder of lamb along with hazelnuts, lemon zest and

:19:35.:19:36.

breadcrumbs. It's roasted and served with Boulangere potatoes and mint

:19:37.:19:40.

sauce. Or you could be facing your food hell, coriander. I'll marinate

:19:41.:19:42.

a spatch-cocked chicken in coriander, yoghurt and spices. It's

:19:43.:19:45.

griddled and finished in the oven then served with a coconut and

:19:46.:19:48.

coriander salad. What do you think you're getting? Nathan has stuck by

:19:49.:19:57.

you and chosen the mint. Ken, lice the onions nice and --

:19:58.:20:10.

slice the onions nice and thin. What can I do? Get some oil and

:20:11.:20:16.

stick about two tablespoons in here. Is that too much? Perfect.

:20:17.:20:24.

So we slice the onions up. You are quicker than me at that.

:20:25.:20:30.

I would need to be. It took ages doing an omelette earlier. We have

:20:31.:20:35.

to be really quick now! Now, ideally cook them until coloured and soft. A

:20:36.:20:40.

couple of minutes. We are making a stuffing.

:20:41.:20:43.

I leave you to do that. Just that.

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That is great. Then throw in the cooled ones. That

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is what we need. A little garlic. And then for the stuffing we have

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hazelnuts, lemon, the mint, the breadcrumbs and a little bit of mint

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here and lamb mince. So, as a northern lad, did you do

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home economics at school? I never did.

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They had finished by then, had they? Well, I am not that young. But no,

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never. When

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never. your own, you have to learn what to

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do. I lived with a guy called Tim, he got me going on that.

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There is the minced lamb. And some lemon like that.

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Lots of lemon. So the garlic and everything are in there.

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Go the guys are making the Boulangere potatoes.

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He is not using that thing? My friend Neil took his finger off with

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that. They are OK, ideally you want to use

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a guard. We don't have that. That is an interesting-shaped

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potato, Nathan? I know. So what about this? That is the

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shoulder of lamb. I do a shoulder of lamb, a Greek

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thing. This is what we are doing here. All

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of the juices fall down on to the potatoes. What you do is get the

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stuffing and put it in there. That is why you need the onions cold. So

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season it up. Me? ! With what, salt and pepper?

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Yes. I am bad with salt, you know. I love

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it. Then roll it up so it is nice and

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tight. . Do you use string now? Yes.

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You can do this. No! Under with the string and just

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pull it. No, I have lost it.

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Already? Yes. Right, underneath. Oh, yeah, then

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like that and just pull. Sorted.

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So for those people tuning in, the album? Education, Education,

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Education, War, it was number one for two weeks.

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We were up against Sam Bailey, she tweeted us when we knocked her off.

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Thanks for that. But, the Kaiser Chiefs are back to

:24:33.:24:34.

their old form. It is like But, the Kaiser Chiefs are back to

:24:35.:24:40.

really. Every song it seems, that often when you listen to an album,

:24:41.:24:42.

you think it will sound fantastic in often when you listen to an album,

:24:43.:24:47.

a big arena. Was that the idea? Kind of. We always think about the crowd

:24:48.:24:52.

when we are writing. It is nice to be back. Nice to

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appreciate thing as bit more. It happened a little slower. I can sit

:24:57.:25:02.

back and enjoy it more. It was a whirlwind when it first started and

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all excited. It is even more exciting now as we have been given

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another shot. It is, fantastic. And well-deserved

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as well. Thank you.

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Now, the mint sauce, sugar, salt, mint and vinegar.

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That is it? Yep. Just cook it. And now there is the lamb. It cooked

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for a good two hours. It was put over the top of the potatoes. The

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idea with the potatoes on the bottom and the lamb on top without a tray.

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So when you take the string off, all of the juices from the meat fall

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down on to the potatoes. These are classic Boulangere

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potatoes. They are named after a baker's oven. The bakers in France

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have these fantastic wood-fired ovens.

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As it is a shoulder of lamb you have to cook it for a decent amount of

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time. It does not work with a leg of lamb. Now that goes on a plate.

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Can I have the other one to take home with me? Absolutely.

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I will stuff it on the back of my bike.

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And this with the lovely potatoes. It is good home-cooked food.

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A little bit of that and fancy sauce to go with it.

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I will late Nathan do his Michelin star swizzle.

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That's the difference. That's the difference between a two

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and a one-star, that is. And the mint sauce.

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That is all you have to do. The mint sauce sits on there with that. That

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is it. Grab the irons, guys. Shall we just go for it? Go for it.

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I am not being polite. Susie has chosen a Carmenere Reserva

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to go with it. Tell us what you think? It is awful.

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Guys, you have to come down! I tell you what, get famous, step one, step

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two, get on this. It was worth doing The Voice.

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The shoulder of lamb is fantastic. Before you take a mouthful, tell us

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the name of the album? Education, Education, Education, War, out now.

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Well that's all from us today on Saturday Kitchen Live. Thanks to

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Nathan Outlaw, Ken Hom and Ricky Wilson. Cheers to Susie Barrie for

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the wine choices! All of today's recipes are on the website. Go to:

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bbc.co.uk/saturdaykitchen. We'll be back here at 10am next Saturday. You

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can enjoy more of our Best Bites tomorrow morning at 10am on BBC 2.

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Don't forget the Eurovision Song Contest with the GCSEer on the

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hamster wheel. You will nick that for the next concert.

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That is what you want. In the meantime, have a great day

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and enjoy the rest of your weekend. Bye for now!

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